Kuruk had a truly sad life as well. Everyone considered him a useless Avatar that just drank and didnt care about anyone but himself while he was actually sacrificing himself little by little protecting them in the spirit world. He was actually pretty selfless the people just couldn't see it since they cant enter the spirit world
There was this theory I saw (not mine) that each avatar's biggest mistake/regret they made in there lifetime the next avatar fixes, example: Roku's biggest regret was not stopping fire lord Sozin before he could start the,Aang fixed it by ending the war. Aang's biggest regret was not being there when his people (the air nomads) were killed, Korra fixed this when she brought balance to the world she brought air benders back. And so what im saying is that Korra losing connection to her past lives is her biggest regret the next avatar (forgot his name) will somehow regain the connection to all his past lives again.
I really hope so because losing the connection is probably the worst thing. I remember a discussion where people were talking that this could be retconed with the net avatar finding related objects, storys or anything related to the previous avatars and has he or she is doing it it gets easier because the previous avatar has already a connections with the other ones or even he or she goes on a jorney to reconect with Aang for example( most recent one other than korra) and one would lead to another and BOOM conection restored
Well yeah …since they were the avatar, their biggest regret/failure probably had global consequences. And it would be up to the next avatar to fix it just by virtue of being next.
Kuruk is so underrated. Not only did he do all the things that you talk about, He did them with no desire for recognition. People thought he was lazy because he would fall asleep in meetings because he was up all night fighting spirits in the spirit world. He had to bring balance back to the entire spirit realm because of all the mess-ups from the previous avatar. And he didn't want to taint her name because he was so noble. He bought the strongest benders in the physical world, Then went and fought the strongest spirits in the spirit world. All while the world thought he was lazy. I absolutely love him.
@remember that one show? I get Kuruk willing to sacrifice vitality to shoulder burdens. He knew he was going to be reincarnated. Plus, he kind of lost his reason to live early on. Anyone know if the Kyoshi novels have a lot of her interactions with Kuruk?
@@MarthDragon Yes Kyoshi and Kuruk interact, not really much in the first book, but in the 2nd book they have a “shared memory” similar to Roku and Aang in “Avatar and The Fire Lord”
@@MarthDragonthey do talk but this guy kind of forgets to mention the reason all the spirits we're so angry was the yang chin kept siding with humanity against them destroying spiritual locations and breaking deals made she was not a great avatar in that regard its why kyruk is so hated he kept everything a secret so others wouldn't know of her mistakes
Dropping this in with everyone else who pointed it out: His fusing with Rava did not give Wan the other 3 elements, that's what allowed him to KEEP the elements. He went on a walkabout with her and received them one by one, switching them out through her as his body could not handle them all at once. Fusing with her let him use them all at once and gave him that Avatar buff. Kyoshi being bad at earthbending isn't inaccurate but it's a little misleading. She was bad at control. She could rip up entire chunks of land easily but struggled to move small rocks with precision. The feat of hers that made people think she might be the Avatar was her pulling up bedrock from underwater in the arctic. Other abilities of hers not mentioned were her ability to bend glass and to flashfreeze blood
Aang by the end of the show had only mastered Air and Water and the Avatar State but Toph said that his earthbending still needed work and Aang himself said that he hadn't mastered fire yet.
@@Ohhhthatsnot- I don't think she's stronger, I think all Avatars are equally powerful or have the potential to be equally powerful in the Avatar State. But without it I think that they'd be more or less powerful with the elements, like Korra is clearly a weaker airbender than Aang, while Aang would be a weaker earthbender than Kyoshi and so on and so forth. I think they are only equal in power when they use the Avatar State.
Clearly. He had like 1 year to master the 3 other elements and the avatar state. He hadn't mastered any of the other elements except water(maybe). But its safe to assume he continued his training.
Kyoshis immortality was taught to her by Lao Ge “Tieguai The Immortal” by rebuilding her cells one by one, with EARTH BENDING, it was not a water bending technique or healing. 22:36
@@mugetsusaki2822 not sure exactly, something about a meditations technique that focused on all your surroundings and instead of focusing on nothing. But the man who taught her, and also the longest living person known in avatar (estimated to be well over 1000 and older than the four nations) was very clearly an earth bender, I don’t remember exactly how it’s explained it’s been a while since I read the Kyoshi books, definitely not water bending though
I had a "huh" moment at that time....coz i remember its bcs of Earth Bending. And saw videos before explaining why earth benders usually hv ling lifespan.
It was EARTHBENDING. But not rebuilding the cells either. Lao Ge and Kyoshi stop change. Without change there can't be aging. It's like stopping time stops everything. But, stopping every cell itself without dealing with time.
To be fair to Szeto, the avatar's duty is to maintain balance. if the Fire Nation had fallen into anarchy or civil war, it wouldn't have had the sheer population or resources needed to recover quickly like the Earth Kingdom did with Kuvira. The world would have been very similar to the one we see in Aang's time, out of balance
I've been watching Avatar since it's very first airing when I was 5 years old and it's so great to see how much it has grown and how much it's loved. I'm excited to see where it goes from here
Aang actually became a fully fledged Avatar in less than a year which is even more impressive. I believe the timeline of the show spans about 9ish months. I only say that because episode 8 of season 1 is the Winter Solstice which takes place in the end of December and in season 3 in the episode The Firebending Masters they mention the summer solstice being a few weeks away I believe when trying to open the door. I also believe that Sozin's Comet was supposed to happen on the date the episode released in 2008 which is July 19th. Again, could be wrong but whatevs lol
@@minkusaurus yep his firebending is basic at best. He was able to do decent firebending imo due to both the fact that Zuko took him so they would learn directly from the dragons (the original firebenders) and that during his fight against Ozai he was also being enhanced by the comet
He wasn't fully fledged. I think literally every avatar or at least most avatar would beat Ozai in 5 minutes max. Aang didn't get a chance to fully master the elements and due to his pacifistic mindset....he actually was held back. Like literally every Korra villain would SMOKE Ozai.
@clonnlijinhlong2713 Well, yeah, but all the avatars you are talking about had far more than 9 months to train. And all of Korea’s villains would crush comet-powered Ozai? No.
Lol Szeto was a fully realized Avatar. He was a fire nation politician and focused mostly on the fire nation but he didn’t COMPLETELY ignore his avatar duties. He just did those duties from behind a “fire nation-tinted” lense. Great video though. Love when ATLA gets some love. Keep up the great work my guy.
I don't think Aang was a fully realized Avatar by the end of the show. He had only just begun training in Firebending, and Toph mentions that he still needs work on his Earthbending. The Avatar State bending isn't Aang's bending. It's the collective knowledge of all of the other Avatars working through him. Aang didn't even master the Avatar State until the second he drops out of it before killing Ozai. I don't think Aang was a fully realized Avatar by the end of the show. I think he was an accomplished Avatar. I think he was good enough for the situation he found himself in, but I don't think he was as good as he was going to get.
@Tyr their is a specific episode where they discuss it...Toph admits his earth bending could use work etc... just saying He was not a master of the elements when he fought Ozai
@Tyr I'm not just going off of what she said..Aang basically said in that episode he hadn't mastered any of the elements... the last the episodes before the fight.. you will see it
@22s22a he did master them. Mastery does have levels believe it or not. He mastered them enough to control them and actively fight an amped Ozai. He didn't master them like a prodigy who basically trained with one bending ability her entire life
@@22s22awell that's true. Aang Is kind of a perfectionist when it comes to bending. So if he could bend the other elements at the level he di learning them in under a year. Imagine when they had world piece for and he had time to train properly
I COULDNT AGREE MORE WITH THIS LIST!!! I’ve always thought yengchen was always the most powerful like imagine being so loved and respected for doing your job right that there are no wars for 200 years!!! She’s so iconic so glad she finally got her novel!
She’s a really interesting avatar, because on the outside she’s seen as the perfect air nomad avatar, but in reality she’s willing to do harsh almost lethal airbending tactics, spying, and espionage to get things done and keep the world at peace, I think it also really fits with her telling Aang sometimes you have to bend your personal code for the better of the world.
@@BigDyl0023 Roku didn't kill his best friend leading to him going on to genocide an entire nation and ensure the destructive Fire Nation imperialism causes suffering for a hundred years. Szeto focused only on building the Fire Nations prosperity the consequence of which being they became the most technologically advanced society that saw themselves better than the rest of the world. Yangchen ALWAYS sided with Humanity never once ensuring the Spirits were equally represented causing the nature of reality to become imbalanced with Humanity constantly making things worse the Spirits justifiably are beyond pissed at this many of them transform into dark spirits. Kuruk sacrificed his life force to constantly and consistently hunt down and defeat the Dark Spirits...The consequences are he didn't regulate the politics of the mortals causing further imbalance with each nation becoming more and more corrupt breaking the philosophical ideals of each bending style. Like Fire instead of being fueled by Energy was replaced by Rage, The Earth King becoming a Tyrant etc. Kyoshi was pretty damn good...But even she left a negative impact on the world with the creation of the Dai Li. It could also be argued her policy of albeit justified violence left the world believing that Might makes Right. Aang didn't deal with the existence of Blood bending just ignored that fact, Didn't give the Spirits a greater voice he sometimes fought them refusing to see their side of things and sometimes he did but he never gave them equality with mortals, He didn't give equal treatment to Non-Bender and saw the rise of tech as more threat than progress. ALL Avatars make mistakes that disrupt or break the balance. They're Human Beings too. They can't foresee the future only what's present and in their hearts. Yangchen and Kuruk and Roku came to partially hate themselves for their mistakes and kept trying to explain to Kyoshi and Aang that True Balance whether for Oneself or (really and) the World is not a simple thing to achieve. That the Avatar is not a Deity they're a Guide and Bridge to something beyond the Mortal Realm while also being Innately a Human Being for better or worse.
@@BigDyl0023 yes.. that was her mistakes. It's only a joke but there's a saying ina funny reel where kuruk said.... Yangchen, you're the best avatar in 50% of your job but the worst at the other 50%......she was the best at keeping peace among humanity, the other which she failed at was keeping the peace among and with the spirits. Which was just as important was keeping peace among humans.
What about when Korra stood in front of the spirit beam and bent the energy? That beam was strong enough to wipe out entire cities and anyone else that got caught in its past. I feel that after Korra's incredible story of suffering and growth and being able to do this without any help from previous avatars, should be noted in how powerful she actually is. Not just as a bender but as a person who continued to pick herself up over and over again after so many setbacks and losses. The scene of her facing the energy beam to save her enemy shows everything that needs to be said about her growth, her bending abilities, and most importantly, her inner strength.
Toph be like " I'm a blind girl, but i am the goat in this series"😂 i love how written she is, how powerful she is it's i wish we could have seen more animated things from her
I still think Bumi, Aang’s son, should have been revealed to be an energy bender. Introducing a whole new tribe of benders would have been so cool in a follow series to Korra
Kyoshi and Yangchen are the greatest avatars of all time. I see both of them as the personifications of might and force, and wisdom and truth respectively. Both have what I consider the greatest feats out of all Avatars. Szeto being able to bend 4 volcanoes in one shot is nothing compared to bending an island that, theoretically, weighed more than 25 million real-life elephants. Szeto's power like that is also nothing to like you stated with Yangchen, moving the entire sky (like seriously, how the eff do you move the sky?). But, it does not mean the main canon avatars (Aang and Korra) are stronger compared to the two being mentioned. All of the avatar's powers have bounds but their knowledge is boundless as the number of past lives they can connect and talk increases. But the next Avatar's knowledge and mental capabilities can be weak if in his time and existence, the Avatar cycle is not restored. But who knows, we'll find it out when the time comes.
Kyoshi? Yes. Yangchen? Not so much. While she's revered in the physical world she's despised in the spirit world which she completely disfavoured. This got so bad that her reign created a host of dark and vengeful spirits who plagued the world during Kuruk's reign and resulted in his suffering and early death. Something that 'weighed heavily on Yangchen's soul'.
@@SimplymeSVEN18 Kyoshi created a Might makes Right trend and the creation of the Dai Li is kinda something utterly problematic for generations. As Yangchen stated they ALL make mistakes.
@@flamesofchaos13but that's not automatically her faults the dai li became corrupted long after her death we only see them became evil during aang's era and that's already 400 years after her death the one who should be guilty on is long feng who break the purpose of that creation.not to mention the dai li doesn't really bring huge threat to the earth kingdom like killing people or something they just being corrupted by their leader. kyoshi accomplished many good things during her era and create peace for centuries.we can't judge her base on the show and with the novels because that's only 1% from her entire life.who knows what other great things she does during that 230 years of living
I need the next Earth bending Avatar to explore, if nor define himself, with Glass Bending. Super heating the sand he bends to such temperatures that it solidifies into glass for defensive and offensive purposes. Just imagining him living with his family and selling glass sculptures and crystalware to support his village and its unknown why he can heat the glass when he's a Sand Bender, only to discover he can Firebend too. Craziness
Wan still had to learn bending himself he didn't just get it as soon as he fused with rava. And it took him a long time. Also while Wan didn't have any previous avatars, he did have rava talk to an ancient spirit. No one besides Korra ever got to speak with rava. Edit: the ability to kill Spirits at all is a feat that none of the modern avatars have shown. Kuruk over Korra.
this might be a hot take but aang is the strongest avatar, hear me out. The spirit yang chen fought she was able to subdue in a day after a long fight, teenage aang one shot him, take that in. Aang literally created a huge water figure half the size of the northern water tribe at 12 years old. That's a feat on par with Kyoshis island feat and he did it at 12. He knows lightning bending, was arguably the best air nomad of all time, and created a giant water being all before his balls dropped. And on top of all of that he is also now recognised with Yang Chen as one of the best avatar after his creation of republic city.
Wan didn't separate the physical from the spirit world. Vaatu himself says, that he had broken the boundaries between the two (separately existing) worlds, thus creating the two portals. Through those the spirits basically "infested" the physical world. Wan only put an energy wall on each opening, after most of the spirits had left willfully.
Yo Wan doesn't get the other bending styles from Ravaa he gets it from the lion turtles while searching for Vatuu.(I have no idea how you supposed to spell Ravaa n Vatuu, I'm just adding more vowels cause that's what they do in Avatar aang.)
Raava was holding the elements for Wan. Wan's body would be destroyed if he hold them all at once. that's why they had to fuse. otherwise Raava only have to pass through Wan's body to share an element one at a time.
I believe it was earth bending that gave her the ability to slow down every process in her body, not water bending. She learned it from Lao Ge an earth bender.
i know that kyoshi wasnt the best at "being an avatar" but she is still no doubt the fan favourite mainly because of her incredible power and the fact that she doesnt spare people who dont deserve to live
17:30 he did not tho.. during the episode where they went to zukos vacation home aang himself said: “I'm not ready. I need more time to master Firebending” followed by toph who said: “And frankly, your Earthbending could still use some work, too.” He didn’t even master the avatar state as it has been confirmed that during the fight he wasnt even in control.
You’re missing the fact that he mastered the avatar state during that flight. we see that by his eyes flashing when he uses tidal waves to put out all of the fires. Mastery might have different tiers, he was a strong enough firebender to beat almost anyone on the planet, same with his earth bending. Toph also isn’t a good judge as she said both of her daughter hadn’t mastered earth bending yet even tho they were prodigies and the best of their generations
Lava bending is a subskill of earth bending, not fire bending. When Roku and Sozin are battling the volcano, they are not lava bending. They are bending the heat away from the lava, turning it back to rock.
Twin avatars but they only have 2 elements a piece,they are on opposite sides of a world war and the elements switch when they clash against eachother. The only way for them to unlock all 4 elements is by killing their twin or the twin willingly giving up their abilities. Avatar The anomalies.
@@OPGardevoir the idea is twins are 1 soul divided into too obviously not really, but that’s why they each only get half the avatar move set. Then when they come into heated confrontation the elements they own switch. You can have it so the elements each twin is using reflect their world view and personality for each bit of their character arc. While a war goes on and they are forced to choose sides.
@@OPGardevoirand convinced that he knows best but somehow I like him the most from every anime creators which is strange he's got some charm 🤔 have any idea why?
If it isn't an inconvenience to you i wouldn't mind longer videos you talk about interesting topics and i like to listen to them while i play games cook or fix things
Okay, so a personal understanding/theory regarding how the cycle works adds to Wan being the weakest with proper feats. See, the way I understand it is that each previous avatar's life force is added to the next by Ravva, which explains why each one is more powerful than the last. On top of that the instincts and experience of the previous avatars is carried over, making them more efficient and granting 'natural' talent (case in point, Aang speedrunning avatar realisation). Without either of these factors, Wan doing as well as he did when he was the one who kicked this process off is fucking wild.
So then the caveat at the beginning should have been Wan is the strongest individually (because of his incredible feats without the aid of any other avatar) and the others are the strongest with the support of the rest of the avatar incarnations.
respectfully yangchen shouldnt be so high up, she the reason kuruk had to fight dark spirits by neglecting them so he died early Edit: Btw if we're talking by power heres my personal ranking 8:Wan 7:Roku 6:Zveto(ik he dont have many feats but he bendes 4 volcanos simultaneously, so he alr higher than roku lol) 5: Yangchen 4:Korra 3:Kuruk 2:Kyoshi 1:Aang btw this isnt to say aang could never lose to say kyoshi or kuruk but i believe majority of the time he wins, or bare minimum standstill
@@TheSansukesoi4 Avatar Roku took 12 years to master all the elements while aang did it in only 3 months not a year (atla takes place doing the whole summer)
@@jameskuhn1072 how is it that I know nothing? This is confirmed when the three other lavabenders are solely earthbenders: that being Sun, Ghazan and Bolin
@@youngmaster7405 actually bolin’s mother was from fire nation and father was from earth kingdom, This implies that fire/earth genes must be combined to achieve lava bending :)
You said he got the 3 other bending after fusing with rava, but he went to other lion turtles and got them. Fusing with rava just made him strong enough to defeat vatu and made their souls connected.
technically yes. but Raava was actually the one holding the elements. only by fusing with Raava can Wan access them. that's why Raava kept on passing through Wan's body to give him an element but only one at a time because his body cannot hold them all together.
I think in the next avatar show, we are going to have a season about unlocking the past avatars. Since they have been severed I’m pretty sure korra would be the only one available.I think somehow, the avatar will find a way to unlock the connection
The Next Earth Avatar actually may have Korra to talk to but only Korra.and thats if they can still talk to their last lives and didnt lose that ability forever
I hate how people say “Korra severed and killed off her connections to the past avatars” like she willingly handed over raava and said “here unavaatu. Rip this spirit from my body and soul. And strike the spirit to kill the past avatars 😃”
Considering Wan managed to beat Vaatu, but korra who has all of wan and so many avatars knowledge couldn't, well she might as well have just said all that you said.
@@sibinsamthomas4719 vaatu had the help of a master waterbender being unalaq and she literally had vaatu in an elemental sphere and was only set free because unalaq sneak attacked korra from behind
@@fireblaststar9287 so my question is, even with the suped up avatar state and everything, korra was defeated, but she managed to beat both Unalaq and Vaatu's combined form just by changing into that giant blue spirit thing? Does that mean Korra's big blue spirit was more powerful than even the avatar spirit?
@@sibinsamthomas4719 korra wasn’t defeated. she was already likely fatigued after fighting vaatu, which a lot of people discredit and they were on par until vaatu just came out of unalaq randomly and just ripped raava out. i don’t think he own spirit i stronger than the avatar spirit. i think the astral projection form was because she was harnessing the energy from the universe during harmonic convergence (a time where spirit energy is at its peak)
Yangchen was so spiritual that it became a problem at some points. She would regularly converse with previous Avatar and one of those was Avatar Gun. What we know about this Avatar is that they were known to be a fairly successful Avatar, but lost their way when they failed to stop a raging tsunami from wiping a town off the map and killing one of their closest friends. At one point, during Yangchen's journey, she ended up being possessed by Gun.
You should do a re-cap after one or two years because we’re going to learn more about the avatar when prime Ang and Quoshi movie gets released because we can learn more about the avatar and how strong Ang really is. Just saying
I would have to disagree on korra and aang ranking if we are talking power wise because korra created an entire spirit portal and she did that without the help of her past lives that is an impressive feat
I'm guessing the channel here focused on the more "avatar" aspect rather than power-scaling. Korra would definitely be the most powerful with Kyoshi arguably the best battlist
@@Ohhhthatsnot- True! I guess people find it more convenient and easy to rank the avatars simply by comparing feats and scaling them up using a power-scaling evaluation. Personally, I don't like that because most would argue that the newer Avatars are, by default, better than older ones because of Avatar state. I believe that it's the action that matters, not the lore that goes behind the power-up. Moreover, I think a better way to scale the different Avatars is by evaluating them at their job. I think that's more ethical and more scholarly
@@jayjade6003nah Korra isn't even top three in general strength. Aang, kuruk and Kyoshi are the strongest. Creating a spirit portal doesn't make her strong, that feat isn't comparable to any strength feat if anything it's just spiritual durability.
@@DavidElendu I'm not sure where you get me saying that Korra is top 3 in brute strength, but she would be up there. I'd replace her with Kuruk. There's no lore behind the difference of the spirits' physical forms and the energy beams whole physiology, so Kuruk is already out if we follow same logic. Moreover, Korra was able to bend water high enough to almost rich the top of Kuvira's mech. The best feat of water bending we've seen from Kuruk is using the avatar state to water bend Brute strength: 1. TV and Novels Kyoshi 2. Comics Aang 3. TV show Korra 4. TV show Aang
I hate how Yangchen is #1, and this is the only reason why: Yangchen was an amazing Avatar . . . in the human world. See, during her time as Avatar, there was a significant rise in the number of dark spirits in the Spirit World, and this was because she focused much more on the human world than on the spirit world. This is a direct divergence of the Avatar's original purpose: keep *both* worlds in balance with not just themselves, but each other.
Nah man fuck Korra bruh they ruined her character with that romance shit. Also she died in the avatar state 😂😂😂 how you die in yo most powerful form bruh.
Honestly, I would personally switch Aang's and Korra's places. Korra is definately the better bender and has more control of the avatar state compared to Aang. Yeah, she lost her past lives but she has a much stronger and bigger Raava than all the other avatars. The power source is Raava, the wisdom, skills and knowledge comes from the past lives.
I seriously want the next Firebending Avatar to be a Combustionbender. So then we could have an Avatar that could Firebend, Lightingbend, Combustionbend, Airbend, Fly, Spirit Project, Waterbend, Heal, Bloodbend, Earthbend, Lavabend, use Seismic Sense, Sandbend, Metal Bend, and Energybend. They'd break the Verse!!!!
This is simply what’s wrong with some people. They adore a concept known as power creep, but that simply destroys the immersion and relatively perfect powerscaling ATLA has. Sure, they can posses 1 or 2 sub-bending styles, but all+Energybending? I don’t think so. Remember, a REALLY (I emphasise really) small minority of Avatars posses Energybending, and even less used it.
@@idrissbenaziz2411 I just think it'd be cool to see. Avatar is one of those series like JJBA where Power creep isn't a really big issue. If one iteration gets too strong it can all be erased by the next one. Or vice versa. They basically have a built-in reset button for the series, so why not explore far out concepts like an Avatar mastering all types of Bending?
@@allforone3427 Because the sub-bending styles wouldn’t be rare anymore, would they? I’d like to think that Kyoshi was the only Glassbender ever, as she bent the glass out of her throat in the books. I don’t like the concept of what’s meant to be rare turning into an average technique. They did the same thing with Lightningbending, but at least that made sense (it’s said the Royal Family kept these lightening secrets to themselves due to their corruption, but after the war, the secrets were revealed by Zuko).
@@idrissbenaziz2411 How would they not be rare anymore? An Avatar learning all Sub Bending Types is just taking the idea of an Avatar to its natural conclusion. If the world is changing along with the ways the magic system was perceived then shouldn't the Avatar? It's their job to maintain balance throughout the world, how could it continue to do so without being able change as the world does? Each Avatar has their own way of dealing with problems. They all have their perspectives on how they should move forward with their role as the balance between the Human and Spirit Worlds. So it'd make sense that somewhere down the line an Avatar might say to themselves "I should probably take in all aspects of Bending to see if it can aid my efforts" It doesn't mean that everyone now needs to learn all Sub Types to their respective element. It doesn't even mean that the next Avatar after them has to learn all Sub Bending Types. It just means that we'd get to see the idea of Bending as the Avatar taken to its final stage.
That would be dope, but I don’t think it’ll ever happen. They say in the Yangchen books combustion bending is unlocked after hours of literal torture underwater, and most of the people attempting to unlock it drowned and died
@@_darrinsmith Because destroying a 10000 year cycle, leaving a whole new spirit portal open, allowing spirits to invade the physical world, considering their wonderful track record, getting her ass whooped at every turn even against non-benders and what not, while the show intenttionally kept saying, you are the best avatar ever, is definitely a mark of a true avatar.
@Sibin Sam Thomas I guess running away from the responsibilities of being the Avatar for 100 years, still defaulting to running away from serious problems after, allowing for the genocide of every air bender/nomad, allowing yourself to be killed in the Avatar state and effectively ending the Avatar cycle permanently (but you know plot amor 😂), and being a terrible father to your kids because they weren't air benders so not worth any attention makes for a better Avatar right? There's no argument to be made for Aang being a better Avatar than Korra. She was a better bender, fought more powerful villains, better development, and never ran away from her responsibilities and overcame every challenge thrown at her. So yes it's absolutely insane for anyone to rank Aang over Korra and not have it be due to their personal bias against her 😂
@@_darrinsmith You wanna talk plot armor? Randomly getting airbending even after getting your bending taken away, transforming into a giant spirit even after losing the spirit of the avatar and pulling mumbo jumbo from Jinora because the writers were pulling crap out of their asses. Yeah far better. Better bender, don't know how you came up with that, but considering korra couldn't beat Vaatu with 10000 years of experience while even Wan who had no experience to draw from managed to beat him. Oh yeah, real good bender. And unless you get a direct fight between Aang and Korra, then she is a good bender only if you have some wild imagination. Fought more powerful benders? Amon practically got whiffed by a 2, 3 airblows. Vaatu was bull crap that I explained earlier, Zaheer is the equivalent of learning to swim from the internet. Kuvira is literlly the blandest Villain i have seen, who needed a giant spiritual cannon to be taken seriously. Really good villains indeed. Better development, the only development she had over the first 3 seasons were hit harder than in the previous season. The last season is the closest she gets to a development,and that too PTSD, the most common plot device for character development, what a wonderful character arc indeed. She never ran from challenges? she was literally about to jump of a cliff because she lost her bending, if it wasn't for Aang we would be getting a (hopefully) far better earthbending avatar. The show had to go out of its way to pat themselves on the back to tell the viewers that Korra was the best avatar. Though at that point it makes sense, since all the avatars were erased from existence. The only way for Korra to pass for a good avatar is if the list only includes her. Oh and let's also not forget no consequences for Korra. She gets her bending taken away. That's alright lets just give it back to her. Open the spirit portals, well lets just whip out some crap with new airbenders, that'll make ot seem ok. Lets have her wreck the avatar state, but we will still let her use the avatar state because, why not. Also i see your sense of irony is not that great considering the only way Korra is even passable as an avatar let alone get compared to Aang is with your "Bias". PS: You said something about getting killed in the avatar state, didn't Korra get captured and posioned? Despite being the better bender 😂
I'm wondering, is it ever explained in the series or comics how avatars fight spirits (either in the material or spiritual world)? In the spirit world they don't have their bending, do they?
Depends on how you enter the spirit world. If you enter it spiritually, then no you can't use bending. However, if you enter it with your physical body, a la LOK, then your bending abilities remains
Imo: Kyoshi > Aang > Kuruk > Korra > Roku > Yangchen > Wan (Kuruk is heavily slept on in this video, even though his companion felt he never reached his full potential since it was so huge, every time he was mentioned, his strength and natural talent is never not mentioned, when it comes to raw inherent talents, he's definitely number one, considered a prodigy even among avatars.) Also yangchen tied with general old iron, but i get the impression father glowworm is alot stronger.
I agree that Kuruk should be much higher, but in your list Yangchen is WAYYY too low. I mean maybe MAYBE you can make the argument shes weaker than Korra, but putting her below Roku is genuine insanity.
Kuruk had a truly sad life as well. Everyone considered him a useless Avatar that just drank and didnt care about anyone but himself while he was actually sacrificing himself little by little protecting them in the spirit world. He was actually pretty selfless the people just couldn't see it since they cant enter the spirit world
There was this theory I saw (not mine) that each avatar's biggest mistake/regret they made in there lifetime the next avatar fixes, example: Roku's biggest regret was not stopping fire lord Sozin before he could start the,Aang fixed it by ending the war. Aang's biggest regret was not being there when his people (the air nomads) were killed, Korra fixed this when she brought balance to the world she brought air benders back. And so what im saying is that Korra losing connection to her past lives is her biggest regret the next avatar (forgot his name) will somehow regain the connection to all his past lives again.
That would be interesting but I wonder how they would stretch that over multiple seasons 🤔
Oh this was MatPat in The Film Theory.
I really hope so because losing the connection is probably the worst thing. I remember a discussion where people were talking that this could be retconed with the net avatar finding related objects, storys or anything related to the previous avatars and has he or she is doing it it gets easier because the previous avatar has already a connections with the other ones or even he or she goes on a jorney to reconect with Aang for example( most recent one other than korra) and one would lead to another and BOOM conection restored
what do you mean "forgot his name"? has his name been confirmed already?
Well yeah …since they were the avatar, their biggest regret/failure probably had global consequences. And it would be up to the next avatar to fix it just by virtue of being next.
Kuruk is so underrated.
Not only did he do all the things that you talk about, He did them with no desire for recognition.
People thought he was lazy because he would fall asleep in meetings because he was up all night fighting spirits in the spirit world.
He had to bring balance back to the entire spirit realm because of all the mess-ups from the previous avatar.
And he didn't want to taint her name because he was so noble.
He bought the strongest benders in the physical world, Then went and fought the strongest spirits in the spirit world.
All while the world thought he was lazy.
I absolutely love him.
Exactly. We've seen Aang and Korra fight dark spirits and loose badly. Kuruk bodied dark spirits including Father Glow Worm who bodied Kyoshi.
AFAIC with what Kurruk went through he could bed hop as much as he wanted.
I wonder if Kyoshi lived so long to balance out how short Kuruk lived? Imagine Kyoshi having Kuruk as her primary previous avatar guide.
I think kyoshi could learn a lot from kuruk as long as he himself learns from he's mistakes and teaches kyoshi to do better then he did
@remember that one show? I get Kuruk willing to sacrifice vitality to shoulder burdens. He knew he was going to be reincarnated. Plus, he kind of lost his reason to live early on. Anyone know if the Kyoshi novels have a lot of her interactions with Kuruk?
I hate kyoshi❗😒😤👇
@@MarthDragon Yes Kyoshi and Kuruk interact, not really much in the first book, but in the 2nd book they have a “shared memory” similar to Roku and Aang in “Avatar and The Fire Lord”
@@MarthDragonthey do talk but this guy kind of forgets to mention the reason all the spirits we're so angry was the yang chin kept siding with humanity against them destroying spiritual locations and breaking deals made she was not a great avatar in that regard its why kyruk is so hated he kept everything a secret so others wouldn't know of her mistakes
Dropping this in with everyone else who pointed it out:
His fusing with Rava did not give Wan the other 3 elements, that's what allowed him to KEEP the elements. He went on a walkabout with her and received them one by one, switching them out through her as his body could not handle them all at once. Fusing with her let him use them all at once and gave him that Avatar buff.
Kyoshi being bad at earthbending isn't inaccurate but it's a little misleading. She was bad at control. She could rip up entire chunks of land easily but struggled to move small rocks with precision. The feat of hers that made people think she might be the Avatar was her pulling up bedrock from underwater in the arctic.
Other abilities of hers not mentioned were her ability to bend glass and to flashfreeze blood
Aang by the end of the show had only mastered Air and Water and the Avatar State but Toph said that his earthbending still needed work and Aang himself said that he hadn't mastered fire yet.
Idk why people forget this fact
@@Ohhhthatsnot- cause they like to hate on korra
@@MasterOfTheElements they just mad she’s stronger so
@@Ohhhthatsnot- I don't think she's stronger, I think all Avatars are equally powerful or have the potential to be equally powerful in the Avatar State. But without it I think that they'd be more or less powerful with the elements, like Korra is clearly a weaker airbender than Aang, while Aang would be a weaker earthbender than Kyoshi and so on and so forth. I think they are only equal in power when they use the Avatar State.
Clearly. He had like 1 year to master the 3 other elements and the avatar state. He hadn't mastered any of the other elements except water(maybe). But its safe to assume he continued his training.
Kyoshis immortality was taught to her by Lao Ge “Tieguai The Immortal” by rebuilding her cells one by one, with EARTH BENDING, it was not a water bending technique or healing. 22:36
Yip yip, not water but earth.
How did that work???
@@mugetsusaki2822 not sure exactly, something about a meditations technique that focused on all your surroundings and instead of focusing on nothing. But the man who taught her, and also the longest living person known in avatar (estimated to be well over 1000 and older than the four nations) was very clearly an earth bender, I don’t remember exactly how it’s explained it’s been a while since I read the Kyoshi books, definitely not water bending though
I had a "huh" moment at that time....coz i remember its bcs of Earth Bending. And saw videos before explaining why earth benders usually hv ling lifespan.
It was EARTHBENDING. But not rebuilding the cells either. Lao Ge and Kyoshi stop change. Without change there can't be aging. It's like stopping time stops everything. But, stopping every cell itself without dealing with time.
Nobody gonna talk bout how this man said “Sokka” like how they said it in the live adaptation and not how they say it in the anime🤨
I was searching for this comment
I'm begining to think he does it on purpose for comments. I'm getting really tired of his videos because of it but here I am.
He also mispronounced zuko
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- Some people
@@Bigmiquimby lmao his pronunciation is annoying at times but I still fw dude heavy
To be fair to Szeto, the avatar's duty is to maintain balance. if the Fire Nation had fallen into anarchy or civil war, it wouldn't have had the sheer population or resources needed to recover quickly like the Earth Kingdom did with Kuvira. The world would have been very similar to the one we see in Aang's time, out of balance
I truly hope the next earth avatar is a spiritual person and with Jinora’s guidance can enter the spirit world and reconnect the past lives.
I've been watching Avatar since it's very first airing when I was 5 years old and it's so great to see how much it has grown and how much it's loved. I'm excited to see where it goes from here
It came out less than 2 months from my 10th birthday
Aang actually became a fully fledged Avatar in less than a year which is even more impressive. I believe the timeline of the show spans about 9ish months. I only say that because episode 8 of season 1 is the Winter Solstice which takes place in the end of December and in season 3 in the episode The Firebending Masters they mention the summer solstice being a few weeks away I believe when trying to open the door. I also believe that Sozin's Comet was supposed to happen on the date the episode released in 2008 which is July 19th. Again, could be wrong but whatevs lol
maybe not fully fledged, toph says his earthbending could be improve and he has almost no firebending experience
@@minkusaurus yep his firebending is basic at best. He was able to do decent firebending imo due to both the fact that Zuko took him so they would learn directly from the dragons (the original firebenders) and that during his fight against Ozai he was also being enhanced by the comet
Nah he just got the basics down enough. I think when he became an adult then he truly mastered it.
He wasn't fully fledged. I think literally every avatar or at least most avatar would beat Ozai in 5 minutes max. Aang didn't get a chance to fully master the elements and due to his pacifistic mindset....he actually was held back. Like literally every Korra villain would SMOKE Ozai.
@clonnlijinhlong2713 Well, yeah, but all the avatars you are talking about had far more than 9 months to train. And all of Korea’s villains would crush comet-powered Ozai? No.
Lol Szeto was a fully realized Avatar. He was a fire nation politician and focused mostly on the fire nation but he didn’t COMPLETELY ignore his avatar duties. He just did those duties from behind a “fire nation-tinted” lense. Great video though. Love when ATLA gets some love. Keep up the great work my guy.
I don't think Aang was a fully realized Avatar by the end of the show. He had only just begun training in Firebending, and Toph mentions that he still needs work on his Earthbending.
The Avatar State bending isn't Aang's bending. It's the collective knowledge of all of the other Avatars working through him. Aang didn't even master the Avatar State until the second he drops out of it before killing Ozai.
I don't think Aang was a fully realized Avatar by the end of the show. I think he was an accomplished Avatar. I think he was good enough for the situation he found himself in, but I don't think he was as good as he was going to get.
The way he says "No boobs" made me burst out laughing
Why was NOBODY talking about this 😂
Kyoshi pushed the island with airbending as a literal flex 😂
God I love korra and aang as avatars I love them sooo much but honestly I love most of the avatars
Korra sucked but Aang was amazing
@@ai-jw3pf I love korra but to each their own
@Change Holoscene Nobody is saying aang isnt great. People think korra is trash, because she is a pretty terrible character.
I fuck with aang he my nigga but fuck korra bruh
@@Tokahontes WOAH aang is great fym
Aang didn't master the other elements in 1 year ... He basically got down the basics..enough to fight the fire lord
@Tyr their is a specific episode where they discuss it...Toph admits his earth bending could use work etc... just saying He was not a master of the elements when he fought Ozai
@Tyr Aang did very well, but to stay he mastered the other 3 elements in under a year is not accurate
@Tyr I'm not just going off of what she said..Aang basically said in that episode he hadn't mastered any of the elements... the last the episodes before the fight.. you will see it
@22s22a he did master them. Mastery does have levels believe it or not. He mastered them enough to control them and actively fight an amped Ozai. He didn't master them like a prodigy who basically trained with one bending ability her entire life
@@22s22awell that's true. Aang Is kind of a perfectionist when it comes to bending. So if he could bend the other elements at the level he di learning them in under a year. Imagine when they had world piece for and he had time to train properly
I COULDNT AGREE MORE WITH THIS LIST!!! I’ve always thought yengchen was always the most powerful like imagine being so loved and respected for doing your job right that there are no wars for 200 years!!! She’s so iconic so glad she finally got her novel!
She’s a really interesting avatar, because on the outside she’s seen as the perfect air nomad avatar, but in reality she’s willing to do harsh almost lethal airbending tactics, spying, and espionage to get things done and keep the world at peace, I think it also really fits with her telling Aang sometimes you have to bend your personal code for the better of the world.
Didn’t she practically ignore the spirit world though? Basically leading to Kuruk having to do a ton of damage control leading to his early death?
@@BigDyl0023 Roku didn't kill his best friend leading to him going on to genocide an entire nation and ensure the destructive Fire Nation imperialism causes suffering for a hundred years.
Szeto focused only on building the Fire Nations prosperity the consequence of which being they became the most technologically advanced society that saw themselves better than the rest of the world.
Yangchen ALWAYS sided with Humanity never once ensuring the Spirits were equally represented causing the nature of reality to become imbalanced with Humanity constantly making things worse the Spirits justifiably are beyond pissed at this many of them transform into dark spirits.
Kuruk sacrificed his life force to constantly and consistently hunt down and defeat the Dark Spirits...The consequences are he didn't regulate the politics of the mortals causing further imbalance with each nation becoming more and more corrupt breaking the philosophical ideals of each bending style. Like Fire instead of being fueled by Energy was replaced by Rage, The Earth King becoming a Tyrant etc.
Kyoshi was pretty damn good...But even she left a negative impact on the world with the creation of the Dai Li. It could also be argued her policy of albeit justified violence left the world believing that Might makes Right.
Aang didn't deal with the existence of Blood bending just ignored that fact, Didn't give the Spirits a greater voice he sometimes fought them refusing to see their side of things and sometimes he did but he never gave them equality with mortals, He didn't give equal treatment to Non-Bender and saw the rise of tech as more threat than progress.
ALL Avatars make mistakes that disrupt or break the balance. They're Human Beings too. They can't foresee the future only what's present and in their hearts. Yangchen and Kuruk and Roku came to partially hate themselves for their mistakes and kept trying to explain to Kyoshi and Aang that True Balance whether for Oneself or (really and) the World is not a simple thing to achieve. That the Avatar is not a Deity they're a Guide and Bridge to something beyond the Mortal Realm while also being Innately a Human Being for better or worse.
@@BigDyl0023 yes.. that was her mistakes. It's only a joke but there's a saying ina funny reel where kuruk said.... Yangchen, you're the best avatar in 50% of your job but the worst at the other 50%......she was the best at keeping peace among humanity, the other which she failed at was keeping the peace among and with the spirits. Which was just as important was keeping peace among humans.
Yangchen was so bad at half of her job she turned Kuruk into a demon slayer
korra at 4 is a true crime omg
I think Aangs chi was being amplified while he was in that block of ice for 100 years. That constant state of meditation had to boost something!
it also led to him dying pretty early at 66
It boost his death
What about when Korra stood in front of the spirit beam and bent the energy? That beam was strong enough to wipe out entire cities and anyone else that got caught in its past. I feel that after Korra's incredible story of suffering and growth and being able to do this without any help from previous avatars, should be noted in how powerful she actually is. Not just as a bender but as a person who continued to pick herself up over and over again after so many setbacks and losses. The scene of her facing the energy beam to save her enemy shows everything that needs to be said about her growth, her bending abilities, and most importantly, her inner strength.
Toph be like " I'm a blind girl, but i am the goat in this series"😂 i love how written she is, how powerful she is it's i wish we could have seen more animated things from her
I still think Bumi, Aang’s son, should have been revealed to be an energy bender. Introducing a whole new tribe of benders would have been so cool in a follow series to Korra
Kyoshi and Yangchen are the greatest avatars of all time. I see both of them as the personifications of might and force, and wisdom and truth respectively. Both have what I consider the greatest feats out of all Avatars. Szeto being able to bend 4 volcanoes in one shot is nothing compared to bending an island that, theoretically, weighed more than 25 million real-life elephants. Szeto's power like that is also nothing to like you stated with Yangchen, moving the entire sky (like seriously, how the eff do you move the sky?). But, it does not mean the main canon avatars (Aang and Korra) are stronger compared to the two being mentioned. All of the avatar's powers have bounds but their knowledge is boundless as the number of past lives they can connect and talk increases. But the next Avatar's knowledge and mental capabilities can be weak if in his time and existence, the Avatar cycle is not restored. But who knows, we'll find it out when the time comes.
Kyoshi? Yes. Yangchen? Not so much. While she's revered in the physical world she's despised in the spirit world which she completely disfavoured. This got so bad that her reign created a host of dark and vengeful spirits who plagued the world during Kuruk's reign and resulted in his suffering and early death. Something that 'weighed heavily on Yangchen's soul'.
@@SimplymeSVEN18 Kyoshi created a Might makes Right trend and the creation of the Dai Li is kinda something utterly problematic for generations. As Yangchen stated they ALL make mistakes.
Yangchen was so bad at half of her job she turned Kuruk into a demon slayer
@@nicholasmwangangi6257 THIS IS ACTUALLY SO FCKN FUNNY LMAOOOOO
@@flamesofchaos13but that's not automatically her faults the dai li became corrupted long after her death we only see them became evil during aang's era and that's already 400 years after her death the one who should be guilty on is long feng who break the purpose of that creation.not to mention the dai li doesn't really bring huge threat to the earth kingdom like killing people or something they just being corrupted by their leader. kyoshi accomplished many good things during her era and create peace for centuries.we can't judge her base on the show and with the novels because that's only 1% from her entire life.who knows what other great things she does during that 230 years of living
Thought lava bending was an extension of earth bending…I could be wrong but I remember zahir’s teammate (EARTH BENDER) used it against Bolin
Yes and Bolin himself is also a lavabender
Simultaneously being so kind to be revered and so powerful as to be feared to create a generation of peace is the very definition of a razors edge.
I need the next Earth bending Avatar to explore, if nor define himself, with Glass Bending. Super heating the sand he bends to such temperatures that it solidifies into glass for defensive and offensive purposes. Just imagining him living with his family and selling glass sculptures and crystalware to support his village and its unknown why he can heat the glass when he's a Sand Bender, only to discover he can Firebend too. Craziness
Wan still had to learn bending himself he didn't just get it as soon as he fused with rava. And it took him a long time.
Also while Wan didn't have any previous avatars, he did have rava talk to an ancient spirit. No one besides Korra ever got to speak with rava.
Edit: the ability to kill Spirits at all is a feat that none of the modern avatars have shown.
Kuruk over Korra.
Aang radiated energy for 100 years straight having the world record for the longest avatar state..
No feat in the series beats this
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this might be a hot take but aang is the strongest avatar, hear me out. The spirit yang chen fought she was able to subdue in a day after a long fight, teenage aang one shot him, take that in. Aang literally created a huge water figure half the size of the northern water tribe at 12 years old. That's a feat on par with Kyoshis island feat and he did it at 12. He knows lightning bending, was arguably the best air nomad of all time, and created a giant water being all before his balls dropped. And on top of all of that he is also now recognised with Yang Chen as one of the best avatar
after his creation of republic city.
Wan didn't separate the physical from the spirit world. Vaatu himself says, that he had broken the boundaries between the two (separately existing) worlds, thus creating the two portals. Through those the spirits basically "infested" the physical world. Wan only put an energy wall on each opening, after most of the spirits had left willfully.
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Wan doesn't get the other bending styles from Ravaa he gets it from the lion turtles while searching for Vatuu.(I have no idea how you supposed to spell Ravaa n Vatuu, I'm just adding more vowels cause that's what they do in Avatar aang.)
Raava was holding the elements for Wan. Wan's body would be destroyed if he hold them all at once. that's why they had to fuse. otherwise Raava only have to pass through Wan's body to share an element one at a time.
I believe it was earth bending that gave her the ability to slow down every process in her body, not water bending. She learned it from Lao Ge an earth bender.
i know that kyoshi wasnt the best at "being an avatar" but she is still no doubt the fan favourite mainly because of her incredible power and the fact that she doesnt spare people who dont deserve to live
17:30 he did not tho.. during the episode where they went to zukos vacation home aang himself said: “I'm not ready. I need more time to master Firebending” followed by toph who said: “And frankly, your Earthbending could still use some work, too.” He didn’t even master the avatar state as it has been confirmed that during the fight he wasnt even in control.
You’re missing the fact that he mastered the avatar state during that flight. we see that by his eyes flashing when he uses tidal waves to put out all of the fires. Mastery might have different tiers, he was a strong enough firebender to beat almost anyone on the planet, same with his earth bending. Toph also isn’t a good judge as she said both of her daughter hadn’t mastered earth bending yet even tho they were prodigies and the best of their generations
Everyone was excited about the future before Korra lol great video!
Gotta remember kyoshi also had airbenders blood in her as her moms family were air nomads.
Indeed.
…actually I agree. 👏 non biased list very factually explained. Well done
Finally ! A video about an actual good anime !
Um I know avatar is anine like but it's not a anime gang but imma let you rock
Cartoon
This video came out at the perfect time I needed something to watch😂
Lava bending is a subskill of earth bending, not fire bending. When Roku and Sozin are battling the volcano, they are not lava bending. They are bending the heat away from the lava, turning it back to rock.
Well Roku is lavabending, but yeah Sozin is heatbending
What a perfect timing. To talk about Avatar
Twin avatars but they only have 2 elements a piece,they are on opposite sides of a world war and the elements switch when they clash against eachother. The only way for them to unlock all 4 elements is by killing their twin or the twin willingly giving up their abilities. Avatar The anomalies.
HOLLA LET HIM COOK. BRUH THAT WOULD BE SO FIRE. But it would have to be a side story like the vigilantes manga
Impossible there is only one Ravaa so there can only be one
@@OPGardevoir the idea is twins are 1 soul divided into too obviously not really, but that’s why they each only get half the avatar move set. Then when they come into heated confrontation the elements they own switch. You can have it so the elements each twin is using reflect their world view and personality for each bit of their character arc. While a war goes on and they are forced to choose sides.
@@donyforemain2560 only one ravaa. You can't just change the rules of the show to make it work that's bad story telling
@Tyr that literally makes no sense
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I love the new ATLA content, love to see more of it!!
Always posting a video I didn’t know I needed 🙏🏽😂💯
Graet video Nick, you are the best at explaining anything Anime or Anime related.
actually he not but he not bad like some of his judgements are kinda crazy
@@ikenachima1432 I personally stand that Nick is the best
@@ikenachima1432 who you got?
He gets a lot of things wrong like A LOT
@@OPGardevoirand convinced that he knows best but somehow I like him the most from every anime creators which is strange he's got some charm 🤔 have any idea why?
What a great video underrated never knew we neede but we do love Avatar love Nick.
He did not master every airbending technique when he became an airbending master, he learned all but one and created his own
Ok young chen and kyoshi were strong but have you forgot... KORRA LITERALY FORMING A SPIRIT WORLD PORTAL IN THE CENTER OF A CITY!??!?!
If it isn't an inconvenience to you i wouldn't mind longer videos you talk about interesting topics and i like to listen to them while i play games cook or fix things
Bro didn’t even talk about Yangchens voice. An ability of her air bending so strong it split the ocean.
The side eye I gave my phone when I heard Kioshi was number 2
bro aang may not be stronger than kyoshi but in a fight full force avatar state aang would win 75% chance
Poison from a volcano? Heh. I guess you could say that Roku may have had
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Okay, so a personal understanding/theory regarding how the cycle works adds to Wan being the weakest with proper feats. See, the way I understand it is that each previous avatar's life force is added to the next by Ravva, which explains why each one is more powerful than the last. On top of that the instincts and experience of the previous avatars is carried over, making them more efficient and granting 'natural' talent (case in point, Aang speedrunning avatar realisation). Without either of these factors, Wan doing as well as he did when he was the one who kicked this process off is fucking wild.
So then the caveat at the beginning should have been Wan is the strongest individually (because of his incredible feats without the aid of any other avatar) and the others are the strongest with the support of the rest of the avatar incarnations.
respectfully yangchen shouldnt be so high up, she the reason kuruk had to fight dark spirits by neglecting them so he died early
Edit: Btw if we're talking by power heres my personal ranking
8:Wan 7:Roku 6:Zveto(ik he dont have many feats but he bendes 4 volcanos simultaneously, so he alr higher than roku lol) 5: Yangchen 4:Korra 3:Kuruk 2:Kyoshi 1:Aang btw this isnt to say aang could never lose to say kyoshi or kuruk but i believe majority of the time he wins, or bare minimum standstill
Lava bending is apart of Earth bending. Still love you though and I appreciate the content.❤
Indeed
19:46 love the Kyoshi novels !
Roku :12 years
Aang:3 months
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@@TheSansukesoi4 Avatar Roku took 12 years to master all the elements while aang did it in only 3 months not a year (atla takes place doing the whole summer)
@@christianlugata7485 aang didn’t master all of them in 3 months
Kyoshi 50 years
Aang was average at best with bending all the other elements at his age at the time 😂
I can't wait! So looking forward for more avatar
12:00 Lavabending is not a firebending ability, it is an earthbending ability
You know nothing
@@jameskuhn1072 how is it that I know nothing? This is confirmed when the three other lavabenders are solely earthbenders: that being Sun, Ghazan and Bolin
@jameskuhn1072 they're actually right
@@jameskuhn1072 nope YOU know nothing
@@youngmaster7405 actually bolin’s mother was from fire nation and father was from earth kingdom, This implies that fire/earth genes must be combined to achieve lava bending :)
He is gonna blow up for sure and we are the ones that knew him before he went big
You said he got the 3 other bending after fusing with rava, but he went to other lion turtles and got them. Fusing with rava just made him strong enough to defeat vatu and made their souls connected.
technically yes. but Raava was actually the one holding the elements. only by fusing with Raava can Wan access them. that's why Raava kept on passing through Wan's body to give him an element but only one at a time because his body cannot hold them all together.
I think in the next avatar show, we are going to have a season about unlocking the past avatars. Since they have been severed I’m pretty sure korra would be the only one available.I think somehow, the avatar will find a way to unlock the connection
Believe me that's not gonna happen and it's a stupid idea too. Just accept they are gone, and move on with your life
The Next Earth Avatar actually may have Korra to talk to but only Korra.and thats if they can still talk to their last lives and didnt lose that ability forever
Great vid! Mind sharing where you got that necklace?
So was each lion turtle responsible for one of the four elements?
Yes
Well, it is said in Atla, that in the era before the avatar, they bent energy and not the elements, but I guess they forgot about that as well.
Appreciate this guy he probably covers so many series he forgets how to pronounce characters like avatar kirk from star trek & monk giatsu
I hate how people say “Korra severed and killed off her connections to the past avatars” like she willingly handed over raava and said “here unavaatu. Rip this spirit from my body and soul. And strike the spirit to kill the past avatars 😃”
Considering Wan managed to beat Vaatu, but korra who has all of wan and so many avatars knowledge couldn't, well she might as well have just said all that you said.
@@sibinsamthomas4719 vaatu had the help of a master waterbender being unalaq and she literally had vaatu in an elemental sphere and was only set free because unalaq sneak attacked korra from behind
@@fireblaststar9287 also to add to your statement. Wan wasn’t fighting an avatar of vaatu. He only fought the actual spirit
@@fireblaststar9287 so my question is, even with the suped up avatar state and everything, korra was defeated, but she managed to beat both Unalaq and Vaatu's combined form just by changing into that giant blue spirit thing? Does that mean Korra's big blue spirit was more powerful than even the avatar spirit?
@@sibinsamthomas4719 korra wasn’t defeated. she was already likely fatigued after fighting vaatu, which a lot of people discredit and they were on par until vaatu just came out of unalaq randomly and just ripped raava out. i don’t think he own spirit i stronger than the avatar spirit. i think the astral projection form was because she was harnessing the energy from the universe during harmonic convergence (a time where spirit energy is at its peak)
I bet the new avatar reestablishes the connection to the previous avatars
Yangchen was so spiritual that it became a problem at some points. She would regularly converse with previous Avatar and one of those was Avatar Gun. What we know about this Avatar is that they were known to be a fairly successful Avatar, but lost their way when they failed to stop a raging tsunami from wiping a town off the map and killing one of their closest friends. At one point, during Yangchen's journey, she ended up being possessed by Gun.
I keep hearing non Gendered terms for Gun. Was he/she born male or female?
@@TheMrPeteChannel we don’t know, all we know is that they existed
@@mranima748they my ass
Kuruk just became my favorite after hearing his sad life 😢
You should do a re-cap after one or two years because we’re going to learn more about the avatar when prime Ang and Quoshi movie gets released because we can learn more about the avatar and how strong Ang really is. Just saying
I know I spelt quoshi wrong😅
That earth bender is going to have lava bending just like kyoshi
I would have to disagree on korra and aang ranking if we are talking power wise because korra created an entire spirit portal and she did that without the help of her past lives that is an impressive feat
I'm guessing the channel here focused on the more "avatar" aspect rather than power-scaling. Korra would definitely be the most powerful with Kyoshi arguably the best battlist
@@jayjade6003 idk why that’s so hard for people to understand😭 like
@@Ohhhthatsnot- True! I guess people find it more convenient and easy to rank the avatars simply by comparing feats and scaling them up using a power-scaling evaluation. Personally, I don't like that because most would argue that the newer Avatars are, by default, better than older ones because of Avatar state. I believe that it's the action that matters, not the lore that goes behind the power-up. Moreover, I think a better way to scale the different Avatars is by evaluating them at their job. I think that's more ethical and more scholarly
@@jayjade6003nah Korra isn't even top three in general strength. Aang, kuruk and Kyoshi are the strongest. Creating a spirit portal doesn't make her strong, that feat isn't comparable to any strength feat if anything it's just spiritual durability.
@@DavidElendu I'm not sure where you get me saying that Korra is top 3 in brute strength, but she would be up there. I'd replace her with Kuruk. There's no lore behind the difference of the spirits' physical forms and the energy beams whole physiology, so Kuruk is already out if we follow same logic. Moreover, Korra was able to bend water high enough to almost rich the top of Kuvira's mech. The best feat of water bending we've seen from Kuruk is using the avatar state to water bend
Brute strength:
1. TV and Novels Kyoshi
2. Comics Aang
3. TV show Korra
4. TV show Aang
“Korra is as good a metal bender as anyone.”
**Toph has entered the chat.
I honestly believed Korra should at least be top 3 cause she's a bending genius and is above Aang in martial arts, but it's your video Nick👍🏽
That's a dope necklace
You’re in luck! Kyoshi is bisexual!
These videos really gonna hit once avatar studio starts releasing the movies and tv shows.
I hate how Yangchen is #1, and this is the only reason why:
Yangchen was an amazing Avatar . . . in the human world. See, during her time as Avatar, there was a significant rise in the number of dark spirits in the Spirit World, and this was because she focused much more on the human world than on the spirit world. This is a direct divergence of the Avatar's original purpose: keep *both* worlds in balance with not just themselves, but each other.
Well its a strength ranking, thats kinda irrelevant
Aang boutta go crazy in his new movie garuntee it
The Korra fan in me is hurt at this 4th place, but it's fair. She's the only Avatar to turn herself into a galactic energy mech 😂
Nah man fuck Korra bruh they ruined her character with that romance shit. Also she died in the avatar state 😂😂😂 how you die in yo most powerful form bruh.
Honestly, I would personally switch Aang's and Korra's places. Korra is definately the better bender and has more control of the avatar state compared to Aang.
Yeah, she lost her past lives but she has a much stronger and bigger Raava than all the other avatars.
The power source is Raava, the wisdom, skills and knowledge comes from the past lives.
three movies and a series?
HYPE!
I seriously want the next Firebending Avatar to be a Combustionbender. So then we could have an Avatar that could Firebend, Lightingbend, Combustionbend, Airbend, Fly, Spirit Project, Waterbend, Heal, Bloodbend, Earthbend, Lavabend, use Seismic Sense, Sandbend, Metal Bend, and Energybend. They'd break the Verse!!!!
This is simply what’s wrong with some people. They adore a concept known as power creep, but that simply destroys the immersion and relatively perfect powerscaling ATLA has. Sure, they can posses 1 or 2 sub-bending styles, but all+Energybending? I don’t think so. Remember, a REALLY (I emphasise really) small minority of Avatars posses Energybending, and even less used it.
@@idrissbenaziz2411 I just think it'd be cool to see. Avatar is one of those series like JJBA where Power creep isn't a really big issue. If one iteration gets too strong it can all be erased by the next one. Or vice versa. They basically have a built-in reset button for the series, so why not explore far out concepts like an Avatar mastering all types of Bending?
@@allforone3427 Because the sub-bending styles wouldn’t be rare anymore, would they? I’d like to think that Kyoshi was the only Glassbender ever, as she bent the glass out of her throat in the books. I don’t like the concept of what’s meant to be rare turning into an average technique. They did the same thing with Lightningbending, but at least that made sense (it’s said the Royal Family kept these lightening secrets to themselves due to their corruption, but after the war, the secrets were revealed by Zuko).
@@idrissbenaziz2411 How would they not be rare anymore? An Avatar learning all Sub Bending Types is just taking the idea of an Avatar to its natural conclusion. If the world is changing along with the ways the magic system was perceived then shouldn't the Avatar? It's their job to maintain balance throughout the world, how could it continue to do so without being able change as the world does? Each Avatar has their own way of dealing with problems. They all have their perspectives on how they should move forward with their role as the balance between the Human and Spirit Worlds. So it'd make sense that somewhere down the line an Avatar might say to themselves "I should probably take in all aspects of Bending to see if it can aid my efforts" It doesn't mean that everyone now needs to learn all Sub Types to their respective element. It doesn't even mean that the next Avatar after them has to learn all Sub Bending Types. It just means that we'd get to see the idea of Bending as the Avatar taken to its final stage.
That would be dope, but I don’t think it’ll ever happen. They say in the Yangchen books combustion bending is unlocked after hours of literal torture underwater, and most of the people attempting to unlock it drowned and died
Amazing Video Bro!!
Absolutely insane putting Aang above Korra 😂
Every other known avatar except Roku and Kuruk are far better than Korra. Its not as insane as you think.
@Sibin Sam Thomas Kyoshi yes. Every other known avatar is a hard no and it's not even close
@@_darrinsmith Because destroying a 10000 year cycle, leaving a whole new spirit portal open, allowing spirits to invade the physical world, considering their wonderful track record, getting her ass whooped at every turn even against non-benders and what not, while the show intenttionally kept saying, you are the best avatar ever, is definitely a mark of a true avatar.
@Sibin Sam Thomas I guess running away from the responsibilities of being the Avatar for 100 years, still defaulting to running away from serious problems after, allowing for the genocide of every air bender/nomad, allowing yourself to be killed in the Avatar state and effectively ending the Avatar cycle permanently (but you know plot amor 😂), and being a terrible father to your kids because they weren't air benders so not worth any attention makes for a better Avatar right? There's no argument to be made for Aang being a better Avatar than Korra. She was a better bender, fought more powerful villains, better development, and never ran away from her responsibilities and overcame every challenge thrown at her. So yes it's absolutely insane for anyone to rank Aang over Korra and not have it be due to their personal bias against her 😂
@@_darrinsmith You wanna talk plot armor? Randomly getting airbending even after getting your bending taken away, transforming into a giant spirit even after losing the spirit of the avatar and pulling mumbo jumbo from Jinora because the writers were pulling crap out of their asses. Yeah far better. Better bender, don't know how you came up with that, but considering korra couldn't beat Vaatu with 10000 years of experience while even Wan who had no experience to draw from managed to beat him. Oh yeah, real good bender. And unless you get a direct fight between Aang and Korra, then she is a good bender only if you have some wild imagination. Fought more powerful benders? Amon practically got whiffed by a 2, 3 airblows. Vaatu was bull crap that I explained earlier, Zaheer is the equivalent of learning to swim from the internet. Kuvira is literlly the blandest Villain i have seen, who needed a giant spiritual cannon to be taken seriously. Really good villains indeed. Better development, the only development she had over the first 3 seasons were hit harder than in the previous season. The last season is the closest she gets to a development,and that too PTSD, the most common plot device for character development, what a wonderful character arc indeed. She never ran from challenges? she was literally about to jump of a cliff because she lost her bending, if it wasn't for Aang we would be getting a (hopefully) far better earthbending avatar. The show had to go out of its way to pat themselves on the back to tell the viewers that Korra was the best avatar. Though at that point it makes sense, since all the avatars were erased from existence. The only way for Korra to pass for a good avatar is if the list only includes her. Oh and let's also not forget no consequences for Korra. She gets her bending taken away. That's alright lets just give it back to her. Open the spirit portals, well lets just whip out some crap with new airbenders, that'll make ot seem ok. Lets have her wreck the avatar state, but we will still let her use the avatar state because, why not. Also i see your sense of irony is not that great considering the only way Korra is even passable as an avatar let alone get compared to Aang is with your "Bias".
PS: You said something about getting killed in the avatar state, didn't Korra get captured and posioned? Despite being the better bender 😂
exciting that the next avatar will get to learn from jinora
Who tf is soko 🤣
You forgot to mention kyushi's glass bending
He put JUAN instead of WAN 💀
I'm wondering, is it ever explained in the series or comics how avatars fight spirits (either in the material or spiritual world)? In the spirit world they don't have their bending, do they?
Depends on how you enter the spirit world. If you enter it spiritually, then no you can't use bending. However, if you enter it with your physical body, a la LOK, then your bending abilities remains
I don't know if this is a controversial take but avatar the last airbender is way better than legend of Korra
Definitely Atla is way better than Lok
@Change Holoscene For me is because korra is less compelling as a character as aang
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That's a normal take
@@Mustache99 less compelling?? She has way more complexity to her
Great work, Commander.
Man this sure is a cool "cartoon"
It's the best cartoon there is.
yangchen in the 1 spot is crazy, almost as crazy as your pronunciation of sokka😩
I hate how he pronounces names
Imo: Kyoshi > Aang > Kuruk > Korra > Roku > Yangchen > Wan (Kuruk is heavily slept on in this video, even though his companion felt he never reached his full potential since it was so huge, every time he was mentioned, his strength and natural talent is never not mentioned, when it comes to raw inherent talents, he's definitely number one, considered a prodigy even among avatars.) Also yangchen tied with general old iron, but i get the impression father glowworm is alot stronger.
I agree that Kuruk should be much higher, but in your list Yangchen is WAYYY too low. I mean maybe MAYBE you can make the argument shes weaker than Korra, but putting her below Roku is genuine insanity.