First BRASS Loco I've Ever Revived!! EMD GP-20 H.O. Scale From Tenshodo!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- A Viewer donated this Brass Tenshodo GP-20 locomotive. It was in a bit of rough shape, Missing a few bolts and needed re-wired and a good bath. Follow along to see what it took to get it running the rails once again.
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I’m sorry for your loss Ron. I’m glad that you found another buddy to love and give a home to. I also always enjoy your videos. Thanks for continuing to make them for us to enjoy!
My condloences for your loss and congratulations for giving Dumspter a new forever home. God bles you. I take in abandoned and abused cats and give them homes, good food and a lot of love.
Nice work Ron, LindaCarter played Wonder Women and she was so hot 🔥 back in the day LOL 😂
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Hey Ron, it's Mark here. So, you are about to find out, I specialize in brass train repairs. I have at least 60 of those. Brass can be troublesome at times. When you can sometime check your gear lash, sounds tite. Gear boxes and the gear tower, and check the lash in the gear box and the tower, while those 2 screws are tightened down, you may need to install a couple thousandth shim between the tower and the truck gear box, to provide some back lash, if needed. I love Linda Carter, oh my.
Yes sir, what I was thinkn too. A little like a diff in a rear axle . There HAS to be a certain amount of play between the gears. That loco shouldnt be that noisey. I am sure it would start off better, too.
I agree. I have 3Tenshodo GP9's with the same drive. None of them sound like yours. Definitely shim the drive tower as Mark Irwin suggests, and check the alignment between upper and lower gears. I like Linda Carter too.🙂
I so enjoy your videos and happy to see that you are still alive and kicking. I will never again accuse my Tri-ang locomotives of being noisy. 😊👍
My condolences. I lost my 6-year-old Pitbull to a stroke on Thanksgiving . So glad you gave a deserving cat a good home and I hope you get a new dog I adopted a beautiful 7 year old black Labrador retriever who had been at the pound for a long time and now he has a forever home.
Nice to see the cat again lol
Great video! Linda Carter, who happens to be a Caps fan and lives in the area. The motor is quiet like a chainsaw. Dumpster is a very cute pup.
Thanks for all your videos. I've learned a lot and I enjoy your presentations. My wife and I really enjoy them.
Great video Ron. The difference between a professional artist and a regular artist is the pro never shows his mistakes. Happy 4th, 💥
Nice work Ron. I'm digging that motor with the fancy brush head. You just added another 50 years of life to this locomotive.
I’m very, very sorry for Boogie my friend… but, on the other hand, I wish you and the Little Lady happy times with Dumpster! She’s lovely!
Another great job Ron (your patience is remarkable!)!
Please, let me ask you a huge favor: try to change - and film - the magnets on the Tenshodo motor, showing us the electric measures (thanks, by the way: I really appreciated it!) before and after the change. I suspect her performance is gonna improve, but I’d like to confirm it.
Worst case scenario (my suspicion is not confirmed) you’re gonna have another video to show us your great work!
Take care my friend!
Another excellent video Ron, and gag cat even joined in. Take care, Jeff Hanna
As always Great Video Sir! Sorry to hear about your loss of your dog your new girl is beautiful! Nice Work with the locomotive! Thanks for the lesson!
Hi Ron,
Nice restore, even though the locomotive sounds like it's possessed by a demon from Hell. LoL. Just love it when a locomotive shorts out; the thanks one gets for bringing it back from the brink of the junk drawer.
Sorry for the loss of your dog, but delighted to see Dumpster!
Take care, and keep up the excellent work!
Thank You Ron, sorry for the loss of your pooch, they are really family! But nice video luv geeps and all wheel drive and no tt's! Enjoy your 4th
Another job well done Ron. Linda Carter is still smokin hot!!
Another great video. Always enjoyed watching 'Wonder Woman'. Still get in trouble with the wife when I stop to watch it. LOL Hope Dumpster did ok over the 4th. My dog and one of the cats both dislike the noise. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Ron & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks Ron Friends Randy & Wonder woman
Ron thanks for the shout out good to see you got it going I got that thing at an antique store call the Catawba River antiques I would go in there and the guy had a whole wall of just ho stuff and I was kind of into ho at the time I paid less than $20 for it and then it sit in the basement for 10 years so it's good to see it works by the way sorry for your loss pets are just like family.
Broadway Limited makes a magnificent DCC GP20 , and it looks like the plastic housing from a ball point would work for the drive shaft. Lynda Carter ❤️❤️❤️ so sorry about losing your pup 😭 that’s a huge deal in our home. Beautiful puppers! I have no desire to own brass locomotives, the one i have doesn’t run well and I’ve messed with it a ton!
Yay! Other video to enjoy. Thank you!
Update: Linda Carter. Her and Barbara Eden were my favorite.
Also, sorry for your loss, Ron. 😢
I have one brass piece in my roster.GP38. I had always seen the ads in the back couple pages of Model Railroader magazine as a kid. Thought who buys that. My brass loco I consider a level achieved. Good show Ron🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲🙋
You know you are a serious model railroader when you have a brass locomotive. When you have a price locomotive that says that you have gotten their.
Great Job Ron....Sure glad I saw this video, so I don't make the mistake of getting one of them Locomotives made of BRASS...LOL thanks again
That's a name I remember! Thanks for a great video.
Happy 4th of July Ron. Glad you got a new pup to keep your company while you’re working on the railroad.
Another good one. Thanks Ron.
I wanted one of those when they came out. But my allowance was 10 cents a week at the time, so I settled for a Hustler. Later in college I got into N and Nn3, and am still happily in them, despite the early Bachmann engines that came with smoke units. You turned them on, they smoked, caught fire, and melted. Persistence and longevity pay off eventually. W Alsdorf 😊
Ron you are a master modeler you are.
Didn't have to watch the whole thing to find out that was Lynda Carter, but I did. (- ; Interesting drive train on that brass. Great video.
Thank you for sharing.👍
Gotta say, this was fascinating to see how brass locomotives work. I wish I had some derelict brass steamer to send to you.
A cool old piece of model railroading history.
BRASS, aka Shelf Queen. I bought one (New) in the 80's as an investment, sold it in the 90's for a nice little profit. I've always thought they would be more complicated, maybe the newer ones are. But nice they screw together. Good job on this, and you ARE a Master Modeler. Sorry about your loss, and happy to see the new puppy. I'll be over in Hamilton, Montana sometime Monday thru Friday if you want to drop by, I know it's only a Ten Hour round trip. ;)
Thanks Ron. Now I`m lying here with Linda on my mind. lol
Love brass trains..but sadly the only way I can get one is also a donation..won’t hold my breath…lol..great weekend video!
Great work Ron. Perfect model. Linda Carter. It was awesome to watch as boy goin through puberty... lmao... I have a hobbytown RS3 with the same drive line. Took me a bit to get it quiet. I did upgrade the motor to a can and played with the outer gears to get it where it is, running smoothly. Thank you for sharing. Happy 4th and enjoy. 33%ter... lol
Quite the growler! Going to name that one "Grumpy". Got my 1st Tenshodos during Covid. F7A and B so no shorting concerns, but a broken weld. I will most likely replace the motors with cans to drop current pull. Fickle but sweet units. Tenshodo may have been Caddy's back in the day when compared to many other options for the time. Still good runners and haulers. And now I can say, I have brass engines! lol. Have a crack at some ALCO brass one of these days. Good prices at shows but re-motoring will be needed as the old box frame motor looks like it could drive a tank! That or put a fusion core in there! As usual, great vid. You always give me a laugh as I have usually been there and gone through the same process. Most often like : yes, yes, YES!, NO! NO! NO! A love hate thing going on. Thank you Bud!
"Gift basket" LOLOLOLOLOL
Hi Ron. As always good to see you. Happy 4th of July, Canada Day holiday last weekend. Sorry about your loss, looks like Dumpster is in good hands.
That lil train didn't look too complicated when you first took apart, but sure gave a fight. Thanks for not editing out the troubles, we get to learn a few things for sure. I think you make it look less intimidating to take apart.
Headed over to check out the bonus videos, thanks for putting them up.
Linda Carter, that's a classy lady 😍.
Cheers 🥂 🎆🎇
Hi Ron. Good video bro. That lil loco sounds like some 4 stroke motorcycles that I used to ride around here through the avocado groves before me and my buddies had driver licenses. Hehe. Too cool. Linda carter is still a babe ehhh? LOL. CYA bro Keep up the great work. Thanks, G
Nice work on that tenshodo gp20 you did!
"Lionel-like atmosphere" LOL 🚅 (Classic Ron)
I got one of those Japanese brass engines too. I got into it, but not as deep as you went. I might have to revisit it and see if I can get it to run a little better. Sorry to hear about your dog. But happy to see that you got a new bundle of chaos! Lol take care of that dog. I’m sure he will make lots of good memories for you.
😊 Another interesting video!! Good job!!
Let me start by saying I'm sorry about the loss of Ewhgy, (don't know if that is spelled correctly). I do wish dogs had a life as long as ours. As for brass locomotives, I have fixed many and always find electrical issues, not drive problems. You found both! I'll bet that had a spring coupler from the motor to the drive tower but still ran like crap. I would take the worm gears out of the one truck and see how it runs but sometimes you do everything right and end up with a hot mess. Great video blemishes and all, Jersey Bill
Great video Ron…Happy Fourth of July…cheers to Dumpster…
That's Linda Carter! Still a gorgeous lady!
I have just recently started buying brass locos. So far I have 2: one is a Fairbanks-Morse H12-44 & the other is a Baldwin VO-1000 both in the Central of Georgia livery. They're both made by Hallmark and use can motors. If I had an open frame one like this one, I'd be changing those magnets to neodymium (rare earth) ones. To keep the side rail screws from backing out, put a little dab of super glue next to the screw head and mounting surface or use some blue locktite. None of my engines growl like that, but then, I only use code 100 track. Cheers from eastern TN
Sweet looker
I saw the bicentennial box cars here in South Carolina at a dealer warehouse.
Another great video Ron. I scored a Tenshodo brass tender in the last lot of my Estate deals but no Loco ...... :(
Those brass models back in the 60's and 70's retailed for $50.00 back in the day.
Good video, educate ,Linda Careter
It's a nice video on this repair. As far as the quality of the Tenshodo, they were considered the low end of the brass models due the detail of their pieces. The only thing that puzzles me is that Tenshodo picked the PRR paint for this model. This model would match up with a Southern Pacific or Santa Fe model more than the PRR. My only guess for the paint job was to sell more locomotives. I would like to note that the competitor of the PRR (NYC) had these locomotives like this model without dynamic brakes. Some of these locomotives made through the Penn Central all the way up to Conrail. So, Tenshodo could have painted this in NYC and just ignored the Dynamic Brakes issue as a close enough model for those who were willing to look past this detail.
I have a brass 2-8-0 made by Akane I think its called for under 200 And its painted, Brass does look nice and can be expensive but you can get lucky to get one also nice restoration
I have a few Olympic Express brass F-7 powered chassis that ae essentially a Globe drive clone. The only way to get these to run well is to replace the motor with a precision NWSL or A-line motor with flywheel using silicone sealant. One drive shaft has to be cut and lengthened with brass tubing and super glue. I then attach Miniatronics 2 pin connectors with the matching ends run through the FF-7 porthole windows in the rear so that both are electrically connected. I now have power pickup spread over an A-B set which does not stall on frogs or crossings. You might try this with a pair of Tenshodo diesels.
Life Like used to make a GP-20 in N scale, it is my favorite N scale diesel (I have 8 of them). I think Atlas bought all the tooling for them.
Hi Ron. I particularly don't like brass machines and every time I've done maintenance on brass machines, I've had several problems with short circuits, including during the installation of a sound, light and motion decoder that burned down because of this and I had a big loss financial. If you allow me an opinion, instead of the flexible tube from the motor to the gear box in your GP20, I would adapt an Athearn or Atlas cardan, which I think would reduce the noise and vibrations. Congratulations, great video.
Nice job, I also use 2/56 screws when i do rebuilds, I think 2/56 screws on all model trains should be standard.
Hey Ron. Sad about your "friend" I hopn that Dumpster isnt named for all of the "dumping" done inside the house. I got my lab 2 years ago as a pup, & it still "dumping" inside occasionally. Maybe the name is indicative of the sizing, lol.
Nice engine
Thanks!, Sorry to hear about Oggy 🙁
Linda Carter.
Linda Carter
Pretty fancy! Looks like they ripped off the hobbytown drive actually. Another excellent video!
Nice cleanup Ron. I had high hopes you'd quiet it down a bit.
As much as I admire the engineering it certainly is loud. I don't know. Maybe that's how Japan's real trains sound if they're going to boast "real train sound". 😄
That thing is noisier then my A.C. Gilbert Alco DL-600. I'm surprised that it didn't scare the new puppy.
It’s Linda Carter
MacGyver would have used waterproof matches, bondo, a condom and a hammer!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I inherited a couple of brass locomotives. The only thing they have going for them is the detail. Alot more attention to detail on the locomotives and as you said they sell some locomotives the plastic companies won't make. The cons are the motors are always junk. I have one that never ran when it was new. The other one I had to take into a repair shop and get it running again. The other con is all that money never buys DCC they are DC only. Which is where the senior citizens you mentioned come in, because they want to run DC only which boring.
Linda Carter AKA Wonder Woman
Your rubber tubing will slide easily with soapy water then when it's dry your good to go
Linda Carter, and once by Emily Deschanel, I think.
Lynda Carter AKA Wonder Woman.
Lynda carter
Lynda Carter! HUBBA HUBBA
Linda Carter or the original Wonder Woman
Sorry to hear about the loss of your dog.
Is Dumpster’s name a clue as to where you got her from?
Just kidding. I hope she came through the fourth ok.
Hey Ron, Are the wheel flanges hitting the ties when running ? EMD GP-20 Pennsylvania
I had the same sound when riding large flanges on a Code 55 track. But, being the professional that you are, I could be wrong!
Freddie P
Lynda Carter
Lynda Carter (I hope I spelled it right)
I’m thinking a tinker toy
I so, so don't understand you HO guys??? But great show as usual Ron, though I don't understand why such large handed individuals always pick the smallest items to work on? Yeah I understand that you can basically have 4-5X the collection and or layout sizes due to the smaller scale and less $ usually...... but Damn, if you need to use a microscope and tweezers to do a simple repair or installation on these tiny things.......? And these are giant compared to N or Z scales! IDK Ron? But you have G size digits OO O or even 027....but you always fall back into them tiny HO's with their extremely difficult and strange drive designs that are usually equipped with plastic pieces or gears..... After all your hard work during the surgeries you perform on these strange locomotives, knowing you saw plastic gears inside most all these trains...... How does on sleep at night at all? Knowing that you have plastic parts driving your engines? LMAO! Otherwise I'm just busting some HO balls here lol. Love your videos Ron and I can overlook the fact that you love HO, and use your information towards my own gauge scale, which if it's not obvious? 0, 00 or 027 the older the better, so postwar and backwards. We'll see ya next time Sir and stay cool out there my man, along with a Happy 4th of July to you all as well in TH-cam land.
Who Is Linda Carter Wonder Woman.
If i found a brass similar to that one but the body was badly smashed up with the motor still in good condition ill just scrap it and just use the motor.
This is easy, Nancy polosey anyone can see this.
I never really understood what the draw was with brass
You might have a dead coil in the motor maybe? look for open circuit.
Good work, but my God does that sound horrible. It sounds like it is riding on the ties.
Yeah, Athearn made a better unit.
With out proper tools and small metric taps and screws ( soldering Technics) my advice is to stick to the plastic engines. You lack mechanical ability's to work on brass models.
Linda Carter
Linda Carter