CB Radio Operator Arrested & Taken To Court
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When the FCC comes to your door to confiscate your equipment. Do not chase them off with a shotgun. Because they come back with the Federal Marshals and those gentlemen do not play nice. Part of my sentence was no contact with a CB radio for 25 years. I couldn't even ride in a car with a CB radio installed.
lol what? I wasn't expecting that to be your first-hand experience haha
No CB radio for 25 years, that's rough. I've been on CB radio for over 46 years. In the 70's and 80's when the FCC came to violations, it was with Federal Marshals and a warrant. In the 1990's, the FCC was allowed to inspect and hand out civil fines without warrants or Federal Marshals.
As a licensed HAM operator, I was aware of gaps in the knowledge of other officers & volunteered to be the guy on call should authorities require police attendance / other officers have queries about gear they had come across. This was authorised by my then Superintendent. Never, not once, was I ever called on to get involved in ANY search or seizure.
Yeah, 2 non-uniformed "officers" threatening to smash windows ect... I would have started the car and driven off, even if they obstructed my car with theirs I would have threatened them back that if they did not move their car it WILL get rammed . Legally, you CAN do this if you think your life is in danger, 2 sus guys claiming to be plod ..and threatening to smash windows should be enough , off duty police or not .
I know a guy who was walking back home at 1 am one December morning after a Christmas drink at mine and a guy grabbed him and pushed him to a wall, he claimed to be a police officer, my mate kneed him in the nuts and booted his leg. 2 other guys came out of nowhere and yes sure enough they were infact plain clothes police . They tried to prosecute him but the magistrate saw my friends self defence perspective by being pounced on by a guy in the dead of night and shoved against a wall . The case was dismissed .
You do know what a Warrant card is right? Also if they radioed for assistance they weren't off duty, Radios aren't carried off duty.
@@ninebangtrojan4669 Off duty or not, somebody wearing plain clothes is not to be trusted. Better show official badge and numbers if you don't want to be treated like a criminal.
@@RAndrewNeal "official badge & nunver" you don't know what a Warrant card is do you?
@@ninebangtrojan4669 UK cops don't get badges?
@@RAndrewNeal not individually numbered like in the US, the actual Warrant card is the size of a driving licence & identifies you as a Constable\Officer\investigator etc
My General Grant is peaked and tuned , had it since early 90's.
Still in use today.
I think one of the main reasons the police were quite heavy on AM CB users back in the day was not so much their use of the radios themselves, it was more about those that used cheap badly shielded rigs, or worse still, powerful linear amplifiers. These poorly built devices put out a very strong third harmonic which radiated in the 80 to 84 AM inputs of the Police and Fire comms at the time. That was basically it really. I know a police officer that said they were getting incredibly p’d off by a particular breaker bursting through on their main channel. He obviously had no idea he was doing it but I do know they went out on the hunt for him! This was in the Crawley area by the way…
the problem was at the time plenty of sensitive and commercial equipment was poorly protected against RFI and AM is particularly prevalent for interfering. even in the FM days i and others used to have a great laugh sending digital road signs into fits and it used to be able to trip out fuel pumps at petrol stations, which was hysterical if the BMW driver who not long cut you up pops in there to fill up and you follow and sit just outside and key up... watch the plonker restart his fill 4 - 5 times getting more and more angry.. then the attendant comes out and it works fine for them , then when they go key - click :D :D , sometimes RFI/EMI revenge is very sweet :)
i used to work on police/fire stuff, the fire brigade inputs were indeed around 70 odd MHz and were AM too.
@@amojak Hehe. Nice trolling, just don't get caught.
Sadly, people still use that crap in the states. And the amplifiers have only gotten more and more powerful. It's all but rendered CB Radio useless for its intended purpose.
That´s why today HAM radio harmonic frequencies are also inside HAM bands. It´s too easy to screw up, so they arranged the bands to solve that problem.
But messing with fixed bands is horrible. This might even happen unvoluntarily. There was an old lady who had a radio alarm clock. It somehow started to transmit on airport tower frequencies. Plausible, they are close enough together, maybe some defect that caused self oscillations and broad bandwidth interference.
Being from across the pond, this is all new to me. As always, this is fascinating stuff. Thanks
I can remember talking to a number of UK CB operators back in the 1970s from California in the US.
I had a highly illegal rig with a 1000 watt foot warmer(linear amplifier) i used a 3 element beam antenna that I mounted on my 4x4 truck.
The FCC field team did not have a 4x4 tracking unit and never found me in the Calif desert,,
i watched them from the top of mountains as they drove back and forth on the highways below.
i would hide behind ridge lines where my signal got weaker as they got closer.
Know this story well. heard about it first hand, as i lived in the area of Brighton back in the eighties. We were on the AM cb radio from 1979.
Now here is the twist to the story. After the event, a local breaker passed me an Alan K-350B to look at, he said it did not work. Said it had been thrown off a cliff.
Asked me to look at it, it was a bit battered, it still received, but did not transmit. 40 channel AM crystal control. After all these years, i still have the CB radio in my collection.
Wow, what a small world.
Thats a brilliant update!
Update. . The cb radio came to me, through a breaker called Bullfinch.
He was a well known breaker, who travelled the south coast in his white mini van.
How he acquired the radio, i do not know, but i believe what he said about the cb radio.
Unfortunately he met a very sad accident, broke his neck in a cycling accident, ended up
paralysed in a wheel chair. still alive i think and was living close to my parents house.
Great story apart from happened to the breaker
@@bugler75 Life can be cruel at times, its the decisions we make, that rule our lives. Not every story has a happy ending.
I think this channel is great.
Thanks for all your hard work, I look forward to watching your latest episode before heading off to bed on most evenings.
May I ask ?
I've been doing some research on antenna mounts for an old Ford focus and my reading had brought to my attention a 'thing' called Keydowns..
I was wondering if you could enlighten me/us on such things in more detail in a future production?
Back in the 70s, my brother brought back a couple of rigs from a US visit. I built mine into the dash of my Mazda RX3 behind a blanking panel that hinged down. The antenna was an internally loaded electric car aerial with a duplexer. The mike was on the sunvisor and I had a PTT switch in a film canister fastened to the gear lever ... all totally stealth.
Great fun on evenings chatting with CBers all over the northeast.
Went legal in '84 passing my RAE, as G6JAP.
Today's FCC is severely shorthanded on "field personnel". The UK with it's OFCOM and ancillary agencies far outnumbers FCC staff in similar roles. CB in the U.S. is now "licensed by rule", the issuing of CB licenses and call signs ended some 50 years ago. The actions against CBers today would be for malicious interference/interference with public safety or government comms. The FCC does have Criminal Enforcement Agents, with badges and firearms, numbering about 40-50 for the entire United States. When they do have field operations such as searches or raids, they'll be accompanied by United States Marshal's. I participated in one field operation with a couple as an officer with the US Coast Guard investigating illegal use and interference with VHF Marine and Coast Guard comms. They had the requisite equipment to track and document the incidents.
Here in Holland its called "Agentschap Telecom" (telecom agency)
Do you still need a CB licence ?
You should mention that's 40-50 field agents to investigate the entire radio spectrum (AM/FM broadcast, amateur radio, commercial, public service, etc) regulated by the FCC. CB radio is given very low priority. You should also mention, since you brought it up here, that VHF Marine Radio has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with CB radio.
Ofcom are good guys. They help with interference, bad phone companies, stolen parcels, all sorts. Always polite and helpful.
I think license fees and required call signs ended in the US in 1984, almost 40 years ago.
Brings back memories of the 80s . I remember getting pulled at Alderley edge . The wizard pub one very late dark night . Sat in the car park on the CB ,PC Plod pulled us . Good job he didn't look under the drivers seat . We had a rig that could reach Yorkshire . The good old days 😂😂
i drove past a police motorcycle rider whilst using my CB Radio in 1979 ,when he turned round and followed me ,as i was close to home i tried to get back so i could get on my driveway and then tell him he was trespassing on my property ,but he stopped me about 50 yards from home by getting in front of my car. i wound down my window to talk to him, when he asked me to remove my radio as i had deafened him in his headset , well i had a CB taken from me only a week before and thought this aint happening again ,so i got the microphone off the radio then i took the top and bottom covers off the radio before handing it to him ,stating that the bits i had kept were not illegal . To which he laughed at me and gave me my radio back and said please use it on a straight road and not whilst turning at traffic lights. and from there we had a great friendship as we both became radio amateurs ..Funny where Life takes you 73s
England's TV and radio regulations are ridiculous. You don't even need a CB license in Canada. Amateur licences are for life. Englad needs to crawl out of the last century.
So ridiculous for plainclothes cops to threaten to smash your window without showing identification. It could have just as easily just been someone pretending to be a cop.
Brings back memories of a great era. Still have my Midland 100m, Colt 510 and My modded Lafayette 1200FM with 5 bands I think they were called super-highs and super-lows and sidebands if my memory serves me.
@ that time, we owned a Ham International Jumbo and a Multimode II for the car, these were highly illegal, because max TX was 0,5w and only 22channel regulation, we had 120 channels stock and Alpha channels installed, the Jumbo fed a Zetagi BV130, in the house we had coax cables all around, and when they followed that one, they found a 22channel, 0,5w cb. These were the days 😅
Here in the USA, the FCC fine for radio violations start at $7500. They often settle for all the illegal equipment and revoke any licenses or the ability to get a license on the future. The FCC moves slowly, but when they enforce you don't want to be their target. Enforcement is usually started by other Ham radio operators policing their bands.
I might believe this except President Reagan signed into law that CB radio licenses we're no longer required way back sometime after Sept 10th, 1982.
Can you link a case? One case. Just one.
@@ogiejii7885 .. I agree. Can he cite even one verifiable case? It's extremely rare for the FCC to mess with CB radio. It's just not that important to them.
@@robinstewart6510 Years ago, I wouldn't do it today, I was known to TX my name and address to those that said they would report me. I've never known of one person having contact with any law enforcement for CB misuse. In the 70's I may have known a local leo or 2 that were BIG CBers.
I couldn't imagine being such a hall monitor that I call the fcc to narc on someone
QSL CARDS. I saved all mine from the 70s and 80s. That react membership card brings a story to mind. I assisted a boat in Trouble on the pacific ocean over skip. The react station couldn't hear the troubled station because mountains had blocked the signal. I relayed the position information and react Sent out the USCG to help the vessel in distress. I never heard what happened to the distressed vessel, but I remember that the boats name was called water baby. LoL
It seems this happened many years ago, possibly not long after CB radio was legalised in the UK. Iy was licenced, and a set had to be marked to show it complied with UK regulations. It seems by the narrative the set was an ealier AM set from America which under YUK regulations would be illegal. It also mentions he had some amplifiers which are also illegal in the UK, so there was at least two laws he was breaking. It would have been more sensible to appear in court and admit the offences.
Interesting, I noted in recent years a number of cases relating to police attempting to disrupt or infiltrate organised groups of on sort or another.
Far outside their role as first responders to an emergency.
Cheers! from Northern California 👍
Here in the US we have people who pride themselves on running 5,000 watts or so mobile, on the "CB" bands - which here are in the 26 to 27 MHz range. They even post you tube videos sometimes. The FCC is no longer interested in enforcement here. Luckily, the FCC has provided the FRS, GMRS and even the MURS services for people to legitimately do camping, hiking, family business, etc if they just don't have the technical chops to get an amateur license. FCC gets criticized a lot in the US, but they have tried to generate and keep interest in 2-way radio use for everyday people. With all the other stuff they have to do, that's a very good thing. I hope with the exception of these two window-smashing goofs in the UK, the Brits really try to do the same thing.
"5,000 watts or so mobile, "
It takes at least twice that in input to get that output, so 10,000 watts input at 12 volts that is 833 amps, 4 times the current demanded by the starter motor of a V8 engine.
"For example, a four-cylinder should draw between 125-150 amps, a V-6 should draw between 150 and 175, and a large V-8 can draw well over 200 amps"
I had a friend with an amplifier he claimed was a thousand watts; it had a single vacuum tube rated at about 40 watts plate dissipation so if everything is perfect you'd get maybe 40 watts into the antenna.
@@thomasmaughan4798 You should see some of those setups ... some have a string of 6 alternators charging 5 or 6 hundred pounds of batteries ... running the drive train from those engines is small potatoes compared to the electrical setup.
@@calvinhobbes7504 "You should see some of those setups"
Indeed I would like to see one and you mention it on TH-cam so I'll go take a look.
My next door neighbor was proud of his kilowatt automobile amplifier that he ran in the house connected to a 12 volt battery with skimpy 18 gauge speaker wire. I measured it peaking at about 1 amp, or in other words, the peaks were about 12 watts and that's consumption; only half that will ever reach the speakers. It was plenty loud and he was happy with what he thought was a kilowatt.
Strange, I couldn't really make out what he was doing wrong? just using to much power? I understand he threw the radio off the cliff and obstruction and all that, but surely the police would've had to have had cause to gain entry to the vehicle, and be able to show they had cause for the charges to be brought.
Video said that the incident took place in July 1981. CB wasn’t legalised until November 1981. The police probably used that as a reason to conduct a search.
@@M7BCN ah, that’s for clarifying
@@Natei it was also only FM CB's that was legalised not AM CB's
@@M7BCN there used to be a cb permit by given by fcc but it was never enforced, how ever power usage was heavily enforced back then they didnt care about using the radio just dont fuck up your neighbors television. with to much broadcasting power.. .lol had a neighbor who ran 2500 watts of modulation power just to talk across the street, thats an abuse of poer in any language..lol his handle was orange peel from madison indiana.. he would piss everyone off his coaxial cable had been cut many times over his bullshit..lol
@@M7BCN what do you mean CB was legalized? I had a CB license in 1978
It’s been an upsetting prospect for anyone facing charges brought up by a state Or government prosecutors. Your funds for legal representation is limited. Whereas the states is unlimited - sponsored by other people’s taxes.
the end audio clip brought it all back, i was in my teens in the hayday of CB radio (18ish) i even met my now wife on Radio, and many friends i still have, it was a way of life for many of us, even going for meetups on moterway service stations, big one for us was Woolley Edge near wakefield, be a right crowd. Brilliant..
I would make it my life's mission to financially devastate those two cops even if it meant that I ended up homeless and on the streets with them.
I actually know who Plastic Pig was and where he lived (near the Wellgreen pub in Hale, aka 'Colditz Castle' in breaker-speak). We used to pick up his Reliant from outside the pub and move it to various places, so when he came out of the pub, he couldn't find it. I was one of the 'Laker Town Breakers' from Wythenshawe, incidentally. If you know Neil, please say "Hi" to him for me. 'Bargain Town' = Sale. The Sale Hotel used to be called 'Fawlty Towers' as it sort of looked like it. My handle used to be 'Straight Jacket' and I lived in 'Tin Town', or 'Laker Town' as it was known becuse of Laker Airways.
I just got a notification saying you've just uploaded this video? weird
Back in the 1960s we used to run 100 to 1000 watts on CB. In Oklahoma this was common. No fcc interference ever.
Nice sharing my friend..
I’ve had this happen to me with court summons. My disabilities and mental health conditions meant I can’t handle the admin side of paying council tax, but it was a struggle to get a doctor to confirm that because the council were really unclear on what they needed from the doctor. In the meantime, they apparently “took me to court” and got a ruling against me but I didn’t even receive the initial summons, just the letter about the judgement, so I raised hell until the council decided to void the court ruling, supposedly as a “goodwill gesture” rather than because they’d acted entirely illegally and improperly.
Although I've seen many of your videos, it still amazes me that the authorities in the UK even bother with this sort of thing. The FCC can't even be bothered for the most part.
It’s a lot easier than arresting rapists and murderers…
@@stonefisk Americans will seldom research. They see a video and assume the events occurred seconds ago. On top of that they expect full resolution by the time the video ends.
I wish the FCC would do something like this towards the douchebags with big amplifiers and the companies making those amplifiers. Assholes have made it all but impossible to use CB Radio for its intended use.
@@ShainAndrews yeah well at least we get to shoot each other with proper guns. You have to stab each other with screwdrivers. Don't make me call Biden and have you added to our colonies.
There must be nothing else for the police to do for the police to do in this district
Hi Lewis good video mate when I lived in Edge Hill years ago I remember a RA silver Mercedes van with antennas passing my parents house and I went outside to have a look and they went to the top of the road and turned back again so I just stood there and they drove past myself really slowly and I thought they were going to be stopping but they never did and carried on and they got to the end of the road and turned right and that was it but I thought I'd of been busted and I had a President Lincoln radio and a Zetargi B-507 homebase linier amplifier and a Alan +5 desk mike and at the back of my parents house I had a Shakespeare ABS-1600 antenna about 80 foot in the air on the back of the house and if they would of knocked on the door then I'd of been busted but I was very lucky they didn't knock that particular day. Thanks and best 73's cheers. Stephen M3SNV 73's.
My first rig was a uniden 100 with mid band and splits modified, a zetagi b300p and a sirio 827 twig one of the best antennas at that time alone side a the antron 99
Sounds like the UK radio laws are on par with those of Greece. With the advent of SDR receivers/transmitters one can literally monitor most every frequency from DC to Light as we say in the states. Well in Greece it is illegal to monitor police and fire frequencies. Why, I guess they don’t want the general public hearing about their illegal trists with girlfriends on certain "direct" frequencies. If they really want privacy they should invest in mid level encryption and leave the public to their monitoring of the frequencies. It’s also interesting that the officials complain about interference, well I have news for them. While serving in the military we monitored various frequencies and found that most legit FM radio stations could be found in at least four locations along the FM dial. Guess they never heard of band pass filters and circulators used to prevent intermodulation. Seldom did we see interference on police spectrum caused by CB radio or the few licensed businesses on VHF and UHF frequencies which also encompassed ham radio frequencies.
It would appear that some individuals and government entities just have too much spare time on their hands.
In Oz the police use mil grade encryption so you can't listen in. Fire, Ambulance and State Emergency Service are digital trunking but not encrypted. CB is 27mhz 40ch and 476/477mhz 80ch narrowband/40ch wideband FM with a 'class' license with type approved equipment, no restrictions on antenna gain, but power out of the radio is 5w on AM 12w on SSB and 5w on UHF (FM). Repeaters are allowed on UHF but have to be individually licensed and have backup power etc. The only way to get in trouble is to create an interference issue with some other (fairly important) service who are paying license fees. CB is supposedly 'self regulating' which means what you think, there are next to no inspectors to even try and enforce it. Lot of people use cheap non type approved stuff (Baofeng's being a case in point) but there's pretty much no enforcement unless there is actual interference with other services. When 80ch narrowband came in, the 40ch stuff was initially supposed to be withdrawn from service, but so many people screamed about it, they left it as dual system, which creates less issues than you might think, the original 40 ch freqs are the same on an 80ch rig and the 41-80 are in the gap created by going from 5khz to 2.5khz bandwidth so 41 is between old Ch1 and old Ch2.
@@geoffroberts1126 Not all are digital yet. I know of some areas I can still listen into. Mainly rural areas away from then cities .
@@TheEarthHistorysConfusing Can't speak for other states, but South Australian Police Force is fully encrypted state wide.
Damn, some Bass stations were so powerful. I shit you not, they interfered over unsuspecting people's nearby toilets practically making water dance like fountain show in Vegas.
now I feel we were so free back then when you hear stories from ways other countries strictly enforced what we were unknowingly taking for granted.
FCC here in the states never took too kindly to frequency sliders
Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on permission of another...
Here in Canada we don't need CB redideo license...
Not like your police have better things to do. Like stopping child rape and mutilation or random knife attacks on civilians. But, going after you CB scofflaws is way safer than doing any real police work. BTW, why hasn't your government banned knives yet. We all know that will solve that problem. (SARC)
That's so messed up.
Pity it's so hard to hear the U.K on 11m from Ireland, there are occasional openings of course.
Back in the 70s When someone with a hot or overpowering unit would key up the break would interfere with the tv some of the rigs were very dirty or set up poorly
I've never heard of something like this near me. But, I wish the FCC would catch the 5astard that keeps jamming my HDTV signals.
I was talking to a guy that I work with he's from Manchester He was telling me about cb radio back in the 80s I think he was a truck driver and a crane operator over in England it brought back a lot of memories for him. He was telling me when he was talking on the CB they started out on AM. hopefully 1 of these days we can have a sit down and he can tell me more. At work we don't have much time we work for a local transit company He's retired and work part time so I see him on occasion
Breaker on the Side magazine, I've still got half a dozen of them. It morphed into 'On the side' maybe it went bust? It was pobably the best mag back in the day and very pro SSB.
I live in Canada...where I live its illegal for the police to run license plates..I have a old radio that somehow picks up their car radios...they constantly run plates.
no its not, idiot. they also have plate readers on the car that does a whole parking lot
Even if you did not hear them running plates, they do a lot of that via computer data links these days and there is no voice radio traffic associated with it.
Pennsylvania uses stationary cameras that do nothing but run plates. They are most frequently used for fugitives and Amber alerts.
The bigger issue is that Pennsylvania cops will force everyone riding in a car stopped for a traffic infraction to provide ID even if they are just passengers.
That's why my cars are always parked nose out. They always drive in parking and run all the plates at the local stores near I live.
I guess that the other side of the pond don't know that CB stands for Citizen's Band... since you need licenses and such, and are subjects, not citizens, you don't have a citizen's band.
none of us run type approved radios and all of us run amps, mental how people were targeted back in the day.
and that is why CB is f#$%d up these days
@@martincvitkovich724 behave, how is it a problem, if your upset that you cant get out on your 4w why dont you stop being a jobsworth and join the mainstream.
CB is dead, we have to run power just to get out to the sprinkling of breakers that remain, power in my car and the power someone i talk too means i can leave his location and still have him loud and clear and get back to him when i get to mine 20 miles away, line of sight, not distance driven, try that on 4w mobile!
@@stevefox3763 I built CB radios in the 1960's. We had call signs, followed the rules and did not run power. More than 4 watts out destroys the 10kc buffers between channels and makes the channels adjacent worthless. We didn't cuss and use profane language that punks on CB use today. It was a pleasant time and 2 way contact for 15 miles was easily obtained
@@martincvitkovich724 200w isn't going to bother adjacent channels given the thin sprinkling of breakers still in Cb are ALL on ch19, I never move away from ch19 muppets other than when I use ssb on 27.555.
Call signs are for ham, as are rules, if I got a ham licence I would stick to the rules there but Cb is a different beast with a different culture
@@stevefox3763 I could clear on legal FM around 12 channels either way for around 15 mile and thats to likes of K40 aerials mobile. Saying that done a ship off cost of Ozz in Tasmanian Sea on 80W though had to use the pre amp to hear.
Crazy stuff
Good. Just heard a guy from Atlanta ga, while i was in arizona on a cb frequency.
I remember a case when a guy who was a well known CB Breaker used to drive around the country just going out of his way to stir up as much trouble as he could, with as many people as he could, along with his privileged mates. I say privileged because they were all affluent businessman with more money than sense, they used to drive around playing The Laughing Policeman song over the Airwaves. They called themselves " The Squeakys " because when they did talk they did it it in a high pitched Squeaky voice. The main man used to own a Radio emporium in Birmingham called SMC ( South Midland Communications ) in the end he ended up in Court that many times that they threatened to close his business down because he brazenly told the courts, you can confiscate as much as you want, I have a shop full of it so you are wasting your time. In the end Customs & Excise nailed him good style. He was so notorious in the Midlands that they actually did a sort of Tv documentary about him and his gang, right up to his downfall. That was in the late 80s early 90s if my memory serves me correct.
SMC are still going strong.
@@petemillis4666 Wow that does surprise me. They must be going nearly 40 yrs now. I wonder if the same guy owns it?
@@stephensmith4480 60 years I think!
@@petemillis4666 Wow that`s some going 👍
And this shows up as I find my CBX and my ham international jumbo
The police wouldn't dare go on with that petty nonsense here in TOTTENHAM LONDON.
I prefer these types of stories than the reviews of various pieces of hardware. Don't get me wrong I do also enjoy the reviews.
Police ! They dont do themselves any favours !
They don't do any for the public. They are just a legal gang looking after the rich and themselves.
And this is why law enforcement is not taken seriously nowadays because of actions like that against innocent people that have done nothing wrong, take that action here in Canada and you lose we control our police officers unlike Great Britain that blows me away how you allow your law enforcement to tell you people what to do and how to do it shameful and disrespectful to General Society, today's law enforcement around the world is nothing but garbage and inconvenient to us all, Long Live freedom for all and for those with power against the little person your days are coming and they're coming quick, everybody have a nice day😎💯🇨🇦
Actions have been taken in Canada against innocent people, rights taken away and the Canadian bill of rights ignored during recent events in the last couple of years. This is true of most of the English speaking democracies.
I have had experience of police in the UK completely breaking the law in their treatment of myself and quite deliberate withholding evidence to cover it up. I was a very pro police citizen before then. Never again. .. and no, I had not done anything wrong... in fact I've never even had a parking ticket in my life, never mind committed a crime.
I served with honor in the U.S. Coast Guard which besides being part of the Armed Forces, is also a Federal Law Enforcement agency, with actually the most authority - even beyond that of the FBI. However we are held to higher standards in that regard than any other agency/department. I more so that most detest wrongful use of force, and violation of Civil Rights. But I am equally disturbed when I see comments to the effect of "let's abolish police and law enforcement". It's easy to complain about, but I submit you'd have a lot more to cry about if there was no law or anyone to uphold it.
Egregious incidents by law enforcement, such as the recent West Virginia incident, continue to cast doubt on the legitimacy of their actions.
"September 1981 on the cliffs at Brighton." I was a resident of Brighton (Big B by the Sea) at the time and an active CB operator ("Busy Fingers" was my handle). Was Blue Shark a local or from out of town?
Did you ever talk to a breaker called Bubbles name was Angie ?
@@digitalmediafan Its possible. We are talking over 40 years ago now! Memory fades too you know!!!!
@@brianjrichman it sure does. I use to keep a log book. My handle was Hissing Sid !
@@digitalmediafan We used to live up by Blakers park at the top of Stanford Avenue. A few friends and us used to go down and park the cars along the eastern edge of Preston Park (along "The Ride?") and have conversations using the PA feature of the radios.
We used a Walkie Talkie from a hundred yard away on the grass having a picnic. "Hello. I'm a little yellow Datsun. What's your name?" was typical of what we started out with. Kids and little old ladies were the best... Kids because they were innocent and the old ladies were tickled pink when they thought someone was flirting with them!
Oh the conversations we had with strangers walking along there. Another age, as we'd probably have 50 police raiding us these days!!!
@@digitalmediafan when I lived in Saltdean I used to talk to Spunk Bubble. Bit of a daunting handle as I was only young!
Look out! LOL
I remember when tigers cage had a KiloWatt burner for sale a galaxy or galaxie model. A young b guy near me in Bolton bought it and one evening in breightmet the tvs pictures went from a OK ish pictures to a totally distorted picture and the guys handle was Gary milkman, "one nine for a rig check had wiped television out, bled through the police bands could be heard on all40 channels with the one nine a rig check, Gary would only go on after early hours when no TV stations was on. Great days indeed... 10-4 Whiskey Charlie out.
Where Is Axe Victim , SnowBunny , And Rusty & His Brother,,,,
This seems funny now, but CB and Pirate radio in Gosport/Portsmouth, they would phone the dockyard and ask a ship from where the signal was coming from.
Those Zetagi boots at 5:55 .. 😍
The police usually just worry about weather there radio can pick up the police and then they go. That has been my experience although I did get jumped on one day by the Met police for having a handheld radio in public who wanted to intimidate me and infringe on my rights. I explained to the police after they had calmed down that its for Amateur radio communications and that I am licensed.
Oh and I've got to add that Plastic Pig is a brilliant CB handle.
I did not know it was illegal to have a rig in a car.
This was pre-legalisation
This story started with the wrong assumption that there is such a thing as a freeman of the land. From there, the police were out to get them.
Going after people in the US? What for? They stopped requiring licensing in the us years ago. I started using cb when it was required and still know my call numbers
Back in the day I was operating from the winter hill and was asked to move by security which I did . I was running quite a bit of power on 555. So I moved to Belmont the carpark area opposite the cottage when in the distance I could see the VAN escorted by police. Yep they tried to get me big mistake as I was in our rally prepared Escort mk2 . Pigs had a BL Sherpa , Metro and a Maestro.The Radio communication agency had a Transit van with a green light on top. I was doing a sponsored modulation to raise money for a hoist for a 10 year old with muscular dystrophy. I didn't stick around headed towards Bolton then back roads through Chorley back home to Fylde coast.
This was the normal thing back in the day sponsored for how many contacts you made. In Fleetwood Bob Wheeler dealer, Andy Wildcat aka DTI and myself Beanpole set up Fleetwood Radio Knights group to help in community. We took single or poor parents through Blackpool illuminations and a day out to Beacon fell etc. Set them up with a rig n twig .
Do transport for a monthly food shop etc just CB was the first social media and through it so much good could be done.
If they WEREN'T on duty how did they radio for assistence
A quick, some might say pedantic, question. How/why were 2 off duty police officers in possession and using their radio's? In over 25 years in the UK police, I have never known this (certainly going about off duty activities whilst operating official Home Office licenced radio equipment). Yet this video is more than once insistent they were?
I've never known anyone in the job to carry a radio off duty, plain clothes operation is much more likely, the apparent involvement of Customs makes me wonder if there was a joint drugs Op ongoing.
Not unheard of for a radio to be used to contact an offshore vessel.
The officers were hiding from criminals while abusing law abiding citizens, as usual
Just leave people alone on the cb radio
He was a member of the the 27 club of channel 27 IN THE MORNINGS
Greetings from the Cunning Fox
sounds like a good fairy tail
Well this explains the woeful reality of our police, I wonder if the police force involved have exceptionally poor conviction rates and saw blue shark as a no brainer.
You did hear the bit about the story being 41 years old didn't you, which would absolutely nullify your comments about woeful policing and poor conviction rates currently.
@@Hudders1224 yea who is going to police the police
only themselves
when a good friend inspector tells those stories
one wonders what goes on now 22
Sad
It seems that the prosecutor (and his office had not assessed the case properly to determine if the case should go before a magistrate. The fact that both the prosecutor and the magistrate were confused by the technical aspects of the defendants case, including understanding the equipment and it’s proper and improper use. It is unclear which act(s) the charges were laid. I’m surprised that suitable counsel a Barrister (who in the absence of a defendants barrister, must argue the case from both sides, while informing the learned magistrate sufficiently so that he can without doubt proceed to hear the case. He did not. Therefore it seems like the prosecutor lead the magistrate and the court into error I.e. a miscarriage of justice. All involved appear to have exercised draconian powers. A very serious matter. The case should be appealed, the previous judgments set aside, and s barrister usually a QC (KC today), or at least a senior silk. The police officers should be present. They deserve to be reprimanded for causing a miscarriage of justice, the defendant should have his record expunged all costs paid to him as well as the fines plus interest. I’m guessing that there’s a similar professional body in the uk to our. Law society. It is here that a person who has been brought before the court, And unjustly convicted and fined Ken SEEK up to a set amount as extra costs and have the prosecuting solicitor reprimanded or struck off. Lawyers pay into these professional bodies through a type of insurance scheme that allows the bad ones a way of penalty and punishment for not carrying out their duty to the full as officers of the court. In Australia especially Queensland in particular defendants can seek these costs granted to him by the law society up to $140,000. This is not pain suffering this is simply a fee or gift if you like to say this isn’t enough but what happened to you should never have happened in the first place.
It is rare for things to go that far, but if they do then there is usually a write up for successful cases which under the circumstances ended up being wrongfully charged and sentenced. these cases are then used in the future so that the same Draconian in fact disgusting behaviour does not occur a second time.
It upsets me that such behaviour for somebody who has caused little or no measurable harm to anyone else is subjected to the stress and burden of lengthy court hearings. I guess I wouldn’t go as far as then seeking a civil suit for psychological harm and loss of property, because it can look just as much Draconian from the defendant seeking compensation, as it did when the police officers first engaged this citizen and charged him with certain crimes.
I hope this is helpful and that despite the equipment the user operator engaged in care in using net equipment, and that should he have in his possession an advanced amateur radio license then his behaviour could be comparable to what would be expected from a license holder of that category. That would be one angle to defend the case with scholarly rigour in preparation of the defence.
For goodness sake is it CB radio that’s where all there good bad and ugly communicate well sometimes bad at the times and atrocious every other time after that… I always think that CB radio is there as a buffer, say that the Cowboys don’t come down to the amateur bands and start to make trouble for thanks just trying to enjoy radio communications in all its great geekiness and nerdiness.
I hope that this type of thing can be avoided based on what I think is a terrible waste of the court time and resources for what appears to be a vexatious and unconscionable behaviour on behalf of those police servicemen.
I apologise if there are any syntax errors in my writing above, that should you need clarification of what I have said please do not hesitate to contact me.
I also use the local CB repeater VHQ07 Mount Cotton Brisbane Australia and my name is Mrs Brown as in Mrs browns boys, also known as Doubtfire, sparkles, browneye, moggy, Mr Mangles… if you use Zello you can always catch us, at our best and worst. We also have a very successful Bhat retired solicitor who is a regular VHQ07 participant.
Until then, Be well.
There is no more Federal Communications Commission in the United States for CB radio
Sux to be in England with limited rights
It's my understanding Its not illegal to own a linear or any type of radio, Its illegal to use them if not properly licenced. So if they where not wired up the police would have to prove he has used them and broken the law. I've owned amateur radios even when not licensed but i have full respect for the rules and i have not transmitted on ham bands ever. I only listen and as far as i know that is not against the rules.
There are far too many Hams splattering over the bands, I've even taken screen shots from my SDR and emailed people, some will respond that they were unaware and thank me for my email but mostly I get ignored.
But it's shocking the amount of HAMS splattering on the bands, having the license means you should know how to use the equipment not be interfering several khz across the bands so there really is no excuse and not knowing it is an even bigger problem.
I didn't know the U.S. had banned people from using cb radios. It was the rage when I was a lot younger. Since it was Citizen Band the FCC left it wide open for anyone to use. Times have sure changed for this old man.
Its not banned. This happened in the u.k.
They haven't. The CB radio hobby is alive and well but mostly by die hard enthusiast who have been at it 40-50 years or more.
That recording at the end made me laugh why do all cb'ers, radio hams and local radio djs have that infuriating smashy and nicey voice 🤣
Hang on... two off duty cops RADIOED for backup? How?
I originally posted the very question. I got a rely"How do you know they were off duty" Exactly! Yet this vid is insistent they were. More to it, it appears my post and the reply have both been removed. We'll see how this fairs!
im in so much deep s... this is enviously trivial
Here in Texas its wide open. FCC got bigger fish to fry than illegal amplifiers. Those 50k watt pushers get a lil visit.
A little overreach by the UK police. Never heard of this type of enforcement in Canada and USA. Many laws broken with CB amplifiers etc but rarely enforced unless it causes interference.
Theres an experiment clause
Sounds like the local cops had too much time on their hands and decided to harass “Blue Shark” for something to do. Maybe these cops should be properly supervised in official policing instead of playing “couples” and harassing people over things that are not even against the law. I wish the government would employ intelligent people in the Police Service. It would be a welcome change.
I was busted in the early 80's by David Draper who worked for the then DTI ( Buzzbys' ) He took my Hygain 5 and linear amplifier and my Cybernetic beta 3000 FM CB radio after my father let him into the house when I was out , I was around 14 at the time , He said he would be back to check than my home made 3 element Yagi Ide made and was on top of a scaffolding pole in the garden should be taken down .... I took the antenna down ..... But David Draper never did come back .
Why did the police want to investigate the vehicle for a CB in the first place? I can’t imagine CB itself being illegal. Was he transmitting with too much power?
Ive been using a cb since the very early 60s never was illegal.
My neighbor live over 100 yrds. away from my antenna and claimed she could tell what I was saying over her toaster . Pride 100 was the cause of it .
Oh no a CB radio in 2022. England has too many stupid laws
This was 1981
i like power ! big power ! but the reality is , all you realy need is a couple hundred watts and not be over mod. talking to people that you cant hear is a waist of time.. my daily rig is a stryker 955 and a home brew BLF188 box. PERFECT !
Glad to hear it, although it is in Britain
I know nothing about this subject. What does "breaker 19" actually mean? They say that here in the US too.
Asking for a break or a breaker means you wish to talk. The parties currently engaged in talking are supposed to take a break and allow you to talk. Usually in order to ask to see if someone you know may be monitoring the channel. If you do find someone to talk to you simply both change channels thus returning the channel to the original parties that we're useing it. In a perfect world that is. Often people would get the break and not give the channel back causing arguments. In this case it would be channel 19. Hence the break 19 or breaker 19. Simply put it means you wish to interrupt briefly and talk. If you we're on channel 1 it would be break channel, or breaker, or break 1, or break channel 1 or simply break. I use the last one a simple break. It's important to note when a person stops talking before the other party begins to speak they need to pause a few seconds to allow time for any breakers to ask for a break. If not, they can't hear the break. This is called quick keying. Not good, this is yet another cause for lots of arguing. Channel 19 is also known as the truckers channel or the channel most truckers use. The exception is the west coast 3 states for some unknown reason use channel 18. Having said that, 19 seems to be in use there as well. In the UK, any CB radio operator is referred to as a breaker. In the U.S. your only refered to as a breaker if one is actually asking for a break. Channel 9 is reserved for emergencies and there's other things about channel you need to know if you wish to join us. Hope that helps.
Only in Europe would using a CB get you treated like that
The fcc have teeth in the use they usually impose massive fines as well
Better come and live in australia, cb radios are not licenced and are encouraged to be used if you are towing a caravan etc, 80 channels ,channel 18 and 40 are dedicated highway bands phones are not always in range of towers and can't be used to call up vehicle in front of you.