@@christopherpearce1930 the plans vary and most do include 10 messages. To do custom messages on the two most basic plans it’s 50 cents each. Custom meaning a free form text message, not one of the preprogrammed messages.
i still have the "delorme" before garmin bought them out and as Connor said, it does everything that was described. i really wish they hadn't sold, they were a great company that was really making progress. probably why Garmin realized they needed to gobble em up.
Zoleo seems a niche market. I'm quite content with my in reach mini. Much better pricing imo. Prefab messages aren't that difficult to setup and the whole point of being in the wilderness is to escape constant communication anyway, at least for me.
Many statements about the Garmin devices were incorrect. There should be a video done with a full comparison showing the functionality of both. Every feature stated was available on Garmin. I feel there is a lack of knowledge of the Garmin inReach line. You can message from the inReach device full messages, connect message from app on phone, you can also do the same from a Garmin watch, you can get weather on device, message anyone in contacts, device number, etc… this is just a few notable misnomers.
I plan on doing a full comparison of the Zoleo, Garmin and maybe a Spot if I can get my hands on those others. The inReach does have those functions but they are not easy to use. I have owned it for a couple years and still can’t send a standard text message that isn’t in my Garmin phone book.
@@AdventureBuilt The good news is on the phone you can use the Explore app and you can text contacts and they auto populate from your contacts… You can even directly type a number. Look forward to your comparison. I find the InReach to be the leader in the field with significant cross-platform access and utilization in the Garmin lineup. The ability to use the device across numerous devices makes it more versatile in my personal opinion.
Love your reviews, I have both the insty connect and the weboost. I have had Wilson products for almost 20 years and they work some of the time but not all the time. Since I got the insty connect I stopped using the weboost. Most of my calls are over Wi-Fi when I'm at the rig. I have been in my rig full-time since November of last year. I can't tell you how many times whether I was in Mexico or the states and couldn't even get a single-bar of cell service the insty would pull a signal I could stream with. Keep up the good work.
@@AdventureBuilt when you get out there and have one bar or no bars and you try the insty try making a call with your cell phone which probably won't work then switch over to Wi-Fi calling and give that a shot That's when it gets impressive.
I have an IC as well. Had it over a year now and I even use it as my primary internet at home. I have a Verizon phone SIM card and a T-Mobile SIM card in the modem and get great speeds. Of course it doesn’t work everywhere, but it can be a game changer at places you didn’t have internet but now do with the IC.
@@aaronqueen55 Aaron have you looked into the visible SIM card. Unlimited data but with a 5.5 meg download cap. But with the insty connect you can go around that in the TTL settings. I'm on the party plan and it's 25 bucks a month last night I was getting about a 25 meg down on my visible card.
Saw the Zoleo thing very cool but what a bummer not available for the True Working man to either afford or the monthly payment for message to afford that . But great idea .
Zoleo - Impressed with their tech - fixed all the shortcomings of the competition to make easy to use and integrate. Price is right. Insty - Will be a great product as they continue to develop. It seems clunky in design as of now. Concept is great. Applicability is great. The product design appears clunky because of so many pieces, cables, boxes. Price is too steep for 5G.
The Insty is great but you have to have some cell service. Since starling is satellite it should have a lot more coverage. The Insty seems more affordable.
I have both. I have the IC 4G option and as long as it can find a cell signal, it will get you WiFi. You use SIM cards from the cell providers to get the data. I was just at a few places that have no cell towers anywhere close so IC was a no-go, so the starlink gave us 100+mbps download speed. Both great options. So those campgrounds that get just a lil bit of cell service, the IC can make it better.
You can always turn the GPS device off. However if you don’t have one, you can’t call for help when you need it. I little insurance when things go bad. Just my opinion, and that of my wife!!!
@@AdventureBuilt yes...I get the benefits of having an In-reach but all the cell phone boosters and portable power? I've been off roading for over 30 years and you overlanders are more like overloaded! You all bring too much crap. Overloading leads to breakdowns. I have an in-reach and love it! What I don't have is an additional 500 lbs of crap bought at the gear slut store and flashing lights.
@@mojavered. I used to have the same mindset however after a bunch of overland trips having some creature comforts goes a long way in staying sharp and having my wife not hate the adventures. Everyone has their own way of doing things for sure. You sound like a minimalist guy that sleeps in ground tent and their is nothing wrong with that. Go with what you got.
@@AdventureBuilt what I do has nothing to do with being a " minimalist". Some guys spend time on the trail and some guys spend more time on Amazon getting things that they think brings them comfort. I see you guys on the easy trails rolling 10 deep with flashing lights, roof top tents, shinny axes and shovels, Max Trax, and in their overland uniforms. It's cool. I laugh. I go out with a salty crew and we all wave to you guys. When I want comfort I bring the RV to my favorite beach site and snuggle with the wife in my campsite. You guys will see one day but for now cheers to you!
Some of us are more than weekend Warriors. That would be like me saying when you get home you really don't need your TV or microwave or your blender cut lose from all those gadgets.
Jeez....what happened to the idea of "getting away from everything " we appear to be hypnotised by our phones even when travelling into natural beauty. If you need wifi for working, stay at home. If you need wifi to show the Instagram world that you can't survive without "likes" ...well I'm lost for words.
Not a wise choice for Insty connect to use a dark black box to put electronics in and then have it on top of your rig in the sun.......another example of engineers not having any common sense.
Fritz, appreciate the comments, but we've had zero issues with heat, and the reason for choosing black is that it stands up to the elements like UV rays much better than lighter materials.
Ba ha! in Oz in some places we are lucky to get any cell coverage at all let alone off road. I am always amazed buy the coverage you guys have. One of the reasons we go off road is we like the disconnection but there is other ways of communication if needed, for me it's HF radio. Sat phones are very expensive & don't always work. The HF is cheap, Just a yearly fee of $80 for my licence after the purchase of the radio. I can text, make phone calls, drop a location pin by the press of a button then my wife will get an email & she can log on to see where I'm at. I can make an emergency call to the emergency services if need be or talk to other people be they close or far away. There is also an emergency button that will log my location if it went to crap. If I want I can log an itinerary which will see me check in how often I want (or try to contact me if not or even come looking but I've never done that. I do get I have to be with my vehicle & the radio to be operational which is why I'm considering a personal beacon of some kind as back up. I think to have it attached to a backpack/grab bag would cover most things. As I get older is rare that I travel remotely these days on my own, I would never have given it a second thought not long ago often travelling for days without seeing anyone. Are we getting soft as technology gets better ?? I'd like to think we just have it as backup so we "CAN" be disconnected 😉
Yea that is what I’m doing now. I like the idea of having a detracted cell number. Every time I send a message my family knows that any weird text number is dad. Takes the guess work out.
I have a zoleo and I love it and so do my friends & family that can track where I am off-grid.
Garmin definitely let's you text through their app... you don't HAVE to have preset messages.
True, however they do charge for each custom message.
@@chrisgarage7848 even the cheapest plan comes with 10 free messages per month, then they are $0.10 each.
@@chrisgarage7848 I don't have the mini. So I've only experienced the Explorer. And I don't get charged for custom messages; on my plan.
@@christopherpearce1930 the plans vary and most do include 10 messages. To do custom messages on the two most basic plans it’s 50 cents each. Custom meaning a free form text message, not one of the preprogrammed messages.
i still have the "delorme" before garmin bought them out and as Connor said, it does everything that was described. i really wish they hadn't sold, they were a great company that was really making progress. probably why Garmin realized they needed to gobble em up.
I am new to all of this...so new I dont even have a truck yet lol. But loving and learning alot from the videos
Yay! Alex and Carey
They are super cool!!!
Great video
I am so stoked you did a tech review of the Expo. I am always interested in the new tech that I can stuff into my rig. Keep the tech coming!!!
love my Zoleo for hunting, Weather function is nice too
Rhino Rack also has a folding antenna bracket that works w/ Weboost.
You can tell these vendors are knowledgeable and passionate about the products they sell. 🇺🇸
Love IT!
That Devos light is cool but you should check out STKR Concepts FLi-Pro Telescoping light. It is absolutely incredible!
Thx for the heads up
The remote is what sells me, no going up n down to adjust light output. Thks
Zoleo seems a niche market. I'm quite content with my in reach mini. Much better pricing imo. Prefab messages aren't that difficult to setup and the whole point of being in the wilderness is to escape constant communication anyway, at least for me.
Many statements about the Garmin devices were incorrect. There should be a video done with a full comparison showing the functionality of both. Every feature stated was available on Garmin. I feel there is a lack of knowledge of the Garmin inReach line. You can message from the inReach device full messages, connect message from app on phone, you can also do the same from a Garmin watch, you can get weather on device, message anyone in contacts, device number, etc… this is just a few notable misnomers.
I plan on doing a full comparison of the Zoleo, Garmin and maybe a Spot if I can get my hands on those others. The inReach does have those functions but they are not easy to use. I have owned it for a couple years and still can’t send a standard text message that isn’t in my Garmin phone book.
@@AdventureBuilt The good news is on the phone you can use the Explore app and you can text contacts and they auto populate from your contacts… You can even directly type a number. Look forward to your comparison. I find the InReach to be the leader in the field with significant cross-platform access and utilization in the Garmin lineup. The ability to use the device across numerous devices makes it more versatile in my personal opinion.
Thanks for the coverage for those of us who couldn’t make it this year.
Absolutely!!!!
Love your reviews, I have both the insty connect and the weboost. I have had Wilson products for almost 20 years and they work some of the time but not all the time. Since I got the insty connect I stopped using the weboost. Most of my calls are over Wi-Fi when I'm at the rig. I have been in my rig full-time since November of last year. I can't tell you how many times whether I was in Mexico or the states and couldn't even get a single-bar of cell service the insty would pull a signal I could stream with. Keep up the good work.
Thank you. I have one on loan to test. So far so good. I need to get into a low and no signal area to test it.
@@AdventureBuilt when you get out there and have one bar or no bars and you try the insty try making a call with your cell phone which probably won't work then switch over to Wi-Fi calling and give that a shot That's when it gets impressive.
I have an IC as well. Had it over a year now and I even use it as my primary internet at home. I have a Verizon phone SIM card and a T-Mobile SIM card in the modem and get great speeds. Of course it doesn’t work everywhere, but it can be a game changer at places you didn’t have internet but now do with the IC.
@@aaronqueen55 Aaron have you looked into the visible SIM card. Unlimited data but with a 5.5 meg download cap. But with the insty connect you can go around that in the TTL settings. I'm on the party plan and it's 25 bucks a month last night I was getting about a 25 meg down on my visible card.
@@deeproamer2431 I know but I like the IG her priority of Verizon.
Saw the Zoleo thing very cool but what a bummer not available for the True Working man to either afford or the monthly payment for message to afford that . But great idea .
Will this work in Australia ?
He he he “super hot like 95 degrees”
Bud you been to Tucson?
Yup I live in Phoenix!!!
Was the discount code P32 for the 1200 cube? If so, it's not working.
It may have only been a Expo Special. If I can get a discount code I’ll put it in the description.
Chris, did you reach out to us already regarding this?
Zoleo - Impressed with their tech - fixed all the shortcomings of the competition to make easy to use and integrate. Price is right.
Insty - Will be a great product as they continue to develop. It seems clunky in design as of now. Concept is great. Applicability is great. The product design appears clunky because of so many pieces, cables, boxes. Price is too steep for 5G.
any luck on that merch yet?
Not yet. Very soon.
I wonder how the insty compares to starlink. I have never owned any of these Internet services
The Insty is great but you have to have some cell service. Since starling is satellite it should have a lot more coverage. The Insty seems more affordable.
I have both. I have the IC 4G option and as long as it can find a cell signal, it will get you WiFi. You use SIM cards from the cell providers to get the data.
I was just at a few places that have no cell towers anywhere close so IC was a no-go, so the starlink gave us 100+mbps download speed. Both great options.
So those campgrounds that get just a lil bit of cell service, the IC can make it better.
I like your interview style and use of b roll!
Thank you very much!!!!
Slide hammer function...
What's with all the "stay connected" gear for camping? Guys....disconnect for a while....you'll be okay!
You can always turn the GPS device off. However if you don’t have one, you can’t call for help when you need it. I little insurance when things go bad. Just my opinion, and that of my wife!!!
@@AdventureBuilt yes...I get the benefits of having an In-reach but all the cell phone boosters and portable power? I've been off roading for over 30 years and you overlanders are more like overloaded! You all bring too much crap. Overloading leads to breakdowns. I have an in-reach and love it! What I don't have is an additional 500 lbs of crap bought at the gear slut store and flashing lights.
@@mojavered. I used to have the same mindset however after a bunch of overland trips having some creature comforts goes a long way in staying sharp and having my wife not hate the adventures. Everyone has their own way of doing things for sure. You sound like a minimalist guy that sleeps in ground tent and their is nothing wrong with that. Go with what you got.
@@AdventureBuilt what I do has nothing to do with being a " minimalist". Some guys spend time on the trail and some guys spend more time on Amazon getting things that they think brings them comfort. I see you guys on the easy trails rolling 10 deep with flashing lights, roof top tents, shinny axes and shovels, Max Trax, and in their overland uniforms. It's cool. I laugh. I go out with a salty crew and we all wave to you guys. When I want comfort I bring the RV to my favorite beach site and snuggle with the wife in my campsite. You guys will see one day but for now cheers to you!
Some of us are more than weekend Warriors. That would be like me saying when you get home you really don't need your TV or microwave or your blender cut lose from all those gadgets.
Jeez....what happened to the idea of "getting away from everything " we appear to be hypnotised by our phones even when travelling into natural beauty. If you need wifi for working, stay at home. If you need wifi to show the Instagram world that you can't survive without "likes" ...well I'm lost for words.
That is definitely one way of looking at it.
Not a wise choice for Insty connect to use a dark black box to put electronics in and then have it on top of your rig in the sun.......another example of engineers not having any common sense.
Fritz, appreciate the comments, but we've had zero issues with heat, and the reason for choosing black is that it stands up to the elements like UV rays much better than lighter materials.
No way they ran a fridge for four days on that battery
Never Say Never! It is completely possible depending on how much you have in it, how cold is the ambient temp and how often you open it.
@@AdventureBuilt sounds plausible then.
Dang. The video was released after the Zoleo discount expired. Bummer.
Yea sorry. Tries to get it out earlier.
Ba ha! in Oz in some places we are lucky to get any cell coverage at all let alone off road. I am always amazed buy the coverage you guys have. One of the reasons we go off road is we like the disconnection but there is other ways of communication if needed, for me it's HF radio. Sat phones are very expensive & don't always work. The HF is cheap, Just a yearly fee of $80 for my licence after the purchase of the radio. I can text, make phone calls, drop a location pin by the press of a button then my wife will get an email & she can log on to see where I'm at. I can make an emergency call to the emergency services if need be or talk to other people be they close or far away. There is also an emergency button that will log my location if it went to crap. If I want I can log an itinerary which will see me check in how often I want (or try to contact me if not or even come looking but I've never done that. I do get I have to be with my vehicle & the radio to be operational which is why I'm considering a personal beacon of some kind as back up. I think to have it attached to a backpack/grab bag would cover most things. As I get older is rare that I travel remotely these days on my own, I would never have given it a second thought not long ago often travelling for days without seeing anyone. Are we getting soft as technology gets better ?? I'd like to think we just have it as backup so we "CAN" be disconnected 😉
"You have a lot of control over how much light it puts out"
*product only let's you choose between 100% or 20%*
😂🤣
Haha it actually dims from 100% to 20%. The camera does a bad job showing the light range.
@@AdventureBuilt my bad 😅 I thought he said "Or", in the video 🤣
Omg kissing , kiss yourself ... Men too watching your contain ... Peace ✌️
Garmin let’s you turn your service off and on without commitment.
Yea that is what I’m doing now. I like the idea of having a detracted cell number. Every time I send a message my family knows that any weird text number is dad. Takes the guess work out.
*Nothing but over priced Junk no one needs*