E Swat should have gotten a sequel for sure! The first game was okay but a sequel could have improved upon it cuz it did feel kinda boring and maybe harder than it should have been. Also Chakan The Forever Man DEFINITELY should have had a sequel. That game was just BRUTAL and not much fun and a sequel could have been released to make it easier and more fun.
Alisia dragoon is one of the games I'm super proud to own in box, I love it as its literally one of my favourite sega megadrive games. Loved the video mike 👍💯⭐
Landstalker was one of my favorite Genesis games. I can remember being so elated when I finally finished that game. Wish I had the time to give it another go.
A few people think this, but it's not. It's a mashup of different Climax games, it doesn't carry over the story or the universe. Gamespot called it a sequel which is where I think people got the idea that it was a sequel.
Landstalker had two semi-sequels in Alundra on Playstation (developed by mostly the same team), and Dark Savior on Saturn (also Climax developed, very similar style) Zero Tolerance also had a sequel, Beyond Zero Tolerance, but the Genesis kinda died before it was completed, the ROM is available to emulation I think
The Landstalker games were new IPs, Climax confirmed that they were not sequels. But they are still cool games. Beyond Zero Tolerance was actually cancelled so there i no comercial sequel you are right.
Gain Ground is another game that appears on every console compilation along with Altered Beast, but Sega never make an actual sequel, that being said, if Altered Beast is anything to go by... best left alone.
Decapattack is a long-time favorite of mine. I bought it as a kid, fairly early on after buying the console, and I put a lot of time into it, and beat it a few times. Great graphics, awesome soundtrack, and some fun mechanics really kept me coming back.
Awesome video as always! I'm unsure if they spawned sequels elsewhere but Zombies, Ristar and the Ooze come to mind. Keep them coming Mike :) I'd love to see more graphics and maybe sound based shortlists/rankings. Maybe top games released each year from 1990 to 96/97? (any excuse to rank more than just a top 10 lol)
@@RetroGamerBoy I know the acronym - the part that tickled me is that you said "Unique USP", meaning "Unique Unique Selling Point", like "Automated Teller Machine Machine" or "Integrated Circuit Circuit".
Zero Wing was not only responsible for spawning the first meme I ever saw as a young teenager, but also being the first game I ever emulated due to seeing said meme haha.
The lack of a sequel to Comix Zone is a crying shame. Can you imagine how amazing a sequel in the graphical style of Streets of Rage 4 would be? 😍 Also: did you know that Pyron is working on making an "Arcade Edition" version of Sunset Riders? It looks amazing already.
@@ostiariusalpha with the passion, dedication and enormous skill in the Megadrive homebrew community, and the amazingness of SGDK, I'm sure a group of fans could make a worthy sequel.
The issue with these modern remakes and it’s not a real issue, just a defence for the original creators. It’s the allocated ROM size. Today getting a 8mb rom chip for a fake cartridge or just making an 8mb file is super easy and cheap. Back in the day ROM size was a budget they had to take care of. As the original developers only had 4mbits, which is 512 kilobytes, those guys were working with one hand behind their back. Games like the original Sonic, Golden Axe 1 show you can still make a formidable game on that size, but modern remakes don’t do that. Still pretty cool what Pyron are doing, but for that to have the go ahead back in the day was a tall task, as costs were just way different.
@@sloppynyuszi I would say that "time" and "tools" where even bigger factors. Comercial games are made to coincide with schedules homebrew don't have to adjust to. Also, game developing tools today are much more potent and versatile today. Finally, developers back then did not have ~34 years of experience with the hardware like they do today.
@@sloppynyuszi That's right about ROM chips limiting development. In fact, Sega developed some pretty sophisticated compression algorithms just to keep the ROM size down. That being said, Konami's management definitely cheaped out on the Sunset Riders ROM size versus what was actually available and how much more profitable a better port could have been. Sometimes you have to spend more money to make more money.
I'm focusing on direct sequels here but Mystical Warriors is an interesting game. I not sure its a spiritual successor as it was thematically different, I guess that's up for debate, but it certainly used the same engine and if I remember correctly even had references to Sunset Riders.
Ya thats what Gamespot called it, but Climax the developer says its a completely different game. It has non of the characters, does not share the same story line and is set in a completely different universe.
@@RetroGamerBoy well that explains the terrible mullet. I suppose Climax just wanted to make another unnecessarily awkward isometric platform puzzle game. Now that I think about it there is no fairy and he is not a treasure hunter.
As someone who just got their first Sega Genesis these types of videos are perfect for me. I had a SNES growing up and never played the even played Genesis until a few years ago. Great video. P.S. I had to rewind the last part several times to see if that was a planned fall, I figured it was a joke but it looked real hahaha
In the case of Landstalker while there was no formal follow-up using the same franchise title it did get a successor on the Saturn in the form of Dark Savior. Same developers (Climax) also made Alundra in the same puzzle platforming mold on the PS1. Some good sleeper games that were made on Genesis that didn't get a prompt follow-up are: Master of Monsters Gaiares Sword of Vermilion Ghostbusters Mystic Defender Crusader of Centy (They barely distributed in the first place) Ristar Herzog Zwei They did make a MoM game eventually on the PS1 but that is not in the spirit of the Genesis version at all from what I have read.
@@RetroGamerBoy I definitely know what you mean; I got thorough 95% of Landstalker and was much hoping for a direct continuity sequel for Saturn. Dark Savior is a solid game but an associated follow-up like Landstalker 2 or Landstalker: (Choose your own title) would have been preferred.
I believe these didn’t receive follow up other than a Game Gear version: Herzog Zwei, Mystical Defender, Ristar, Dynamite Headdy, Haunting, Kid Chameleon, General Chaos, Marvel Land
Smash tv reminds me alot of xenocrisis which is a awesome mega drive & Genesis Port and Decap Attack plays alot like Dynamite Headdy with his head being used as a weapon.
Fun topic, and enjoyable video. Here's some other examples.. Gunstar Heroes, VirtuaRacing, Herzog Zwei. Also, some that might not have reached your criteria of critical success but I think are well remembered one hit wonders : Ristar, Dynamite Heady, Kid Chameleon and Dune: battle for Arrakis, which while technically a sequel in name, is totally different from the first game (if I'm not mistaken its an adventure game rather than RTS), and birthed the RTS genre!
Dune 2 was the first Westwood RTS game. It evolved into the Command and Conquer series, Dune 2 itself had a sequel/remake in the C&C engine called Dune 2000
@@businesscat380 yea I did actually know all that.. C&C is so huge in the genre but Dune deserves the credit, and C&C isn't a sequel. As far as this video goes, I forgot about the actual sequel, Dune 2000 so I guess Dune 2 still doesn't count. Bloody good game, tho!
Some good games there, Gunstar Heroes had a sequel on the DS and I was going to include Dune but there have been quite a few Dune RTS games so rather than get a bath full of hate I left it out.😁👍
I think ,back in the day, a successful game was fine as a standalone as it was often the developer that was the "franchise" back then. These days sequels are more down to playing it safe given near Hollywood movie level development costs, especially with all the remakes and remasters as well, funnily enough, same with Hollywood.
I think it's even more exaggerated for gaming. With films they save on the marketing costs, for games they save everywhere, game engine, staff costs, assets, marketing etc.
So fun fact: Land Stalker DID see a sequel, a Dreamcast game by the title of Timestalker You didn't start out as Nigel&Friday but they did join the party of playable characters
There was a kind of sequel to landstalker on the sega Saturn...dark saviour. its very similar style but you can now turn the camera. Got quite good reviews even if back then every git turned there noses up if it was 2d instead of 3d.
Very cool video about these hits on Megadrive/Genesis ! We recently made a video about "Comix Zone" and "Ranger X" on Lord Paddle, I hope you'll see this ! I really love "Alien Soldier", this is one of the best run and gun shooter on Mega drive and a true "Treasure" game - no puns intended :)) - for the fans ! Nice video Mike ! ;)
I know I'm guilty of not telling you this often, but great show, as always Kid chameleon was the first one that come to mind. Yeah, super mario rip off it may be, and quite long and challenging (I almost said 'long and hard' but that wouldn't be what we mean, like a Micheal Scott "that's what she said" kinda thing). Still we did earn a kid chameleon sequel
there are some programmers that are porting the sunset riders arcade edition for the Sega. and I can assure you that those advances look better than in the same snes
Hi Mike. Excellent video as always. And I hope you'll keep us updated regarding your own Mega Drive project. That being said check out what the developer Pyron of the SF romhack is currently working on regarding a Sunset Riders remake: th-cam.com/video/iHR2DhfFhT4/w-d-xo.html I'm curious what your thoughts are regarding this remake. Take care and keep up the good work! Regards, Duncan
The sequel could be on any hardware. Dark Savior though was not a sequel, it was a mash-up of different Climax games. It also did not carry over the story or the universe, Gamespot called it a sequel in a review or preview and it seems to have stuck.
what a blood great video only just come across your channel +1 sub today sir....some good gems on that list...can i ask what is that wii game running in the background at 8m04s in to the video
Another really fun list. I thought Dark Savior was a sequel to Landstalker. Was it more of a spiritual sequel? or maybe I’m way off as I don’t know the Saturn or its games very well. Great video Mike. I literally just got my Demons of Asteborg in the mail today so I need to go dive into that.
That's awesome to hear. I love the game. Dark Savior was just a game made by the same team, it was created as a new IP but of course that team would have been influenced by their past games.
@@RetroGamerBoy Ahh, that makes a lot of sense about the team and Dark Savior. Thanks Mike. I only got to play Demons for a few minutes last night so I'm settling in and getting ready for a long play tonight.
Your telling me that Far Cry has a digtial Wii controls on the screen, and a tiny version of the gameplay with a big black boarder? I thought it was a prerecorded video of you doing a first person view, showing the Wii remotes and the gameplay, with your camera.
Sonic obviously got a sequel on the Dreamcast. What other Genesis/Megadrive classics saw sequels on the Dreamcast? I’m thinking not many, which seems unwise.
Aw yeah, love me some Landstalker--though I've not finished it! Ugh, I need to remedy that. Also, wait, what? Ladystalker on SNES!? Alien Storm is fantastic! Surprised it never got a sequel. DeCapAttack is so much fun--it's one of those games that make me feel like it could've been a Beetlejuice (cartoon) title but they didn't get the licensing. Alisia Dragoon is a lot of fun--AND a strong female hero made it right up Lady Laci's alley. Was Zero Tolerance one you and Sega Head have discussed before? It seems familiar.
@@RetroGamerBoy Ah, I think you're recalling my school days nickname of Lady Stalker. I'm banned from 5 states and have the death sentence in 12 systems.
I believe Total carnage was the sequel to smash tv as almost every mum n pop video game store go to confirms it . I have both games and they play almost identical .
Ya, I know the original studio head, and he said its not. It's was made on the same engine and used some assets. They wanted this to be a new game though.
Just sstarting my MD collection, so far have: Rocket Knight Streets of Rage 2 Mortal Kombat Sonic 2 Mega Games 6 TMNT Hyperstone ( heck no is it official haha, no game is worth over 100 quid) World of Illusion I heard Sunset Riders isn't very good on the MD and the SNES version is far superior? I was going to trade my WII U games for some more as I can get them all digitally anyways. But I have a kid now so I only get to play briefly in an evening so MD games suit me well as they are rather short.
Has anybody experienced co op/link up mode on Zero Tolerance? I heard the cables were mail order only and are now extremely rare, apparently you can make one by soldering together 2 female Megadrive controller ends? I wouldn't dare destroy official controllers to try this out, but I definitely would give it a try with some crappy ones from Ali Express 🤣😎👍 PS , please, please, please do an episode on the 4 player adapter and the compatible games 🙏
great video, I loved comix zone, the only downside that game has is how ridiculous short it is (you can beat it in 15 minutes if you know what to do, and it took me around an hour to finish it the first time i played it) Land stalker was a game that blew my mind at the time, and i really liked this tille (I also loved lady stalker as well, tough i dont know why lady looks like that when it could have been so much better), and then there is the amazing Dark Savior fot the Saturn, wich is basically a land stalker 2 (tough is not). What I do not understand is the comparation with zelda (not so similar and i still think zelda is superior) but a more zelda like game would be story of thor, wich is another amazing game). Alien Storm was a game i really loved on the arcades (the genesis version is ok but sort of different) , i do not think it would have worked as a franchise , probably the sequel would not have worked that well. I reaaaaally enjoyed playing super smash tv on my snes, too bad the game got no sequel Alisia dragoon was a game that reaaaaaaaally could have a sequel, and the mechanics it used could easily been updated to modern gaming, a shame that this game was forgotten and the same applies to Alien Soldier... sunset riders got no squel, buuuuuuuut konami made 3 other games that are basically "sequels" Cow Boys of Moo Mesa , Mystic Warriors (This one made by the same ppl that made SR) AND the Génesis versión has so Manny differences that i take that game as some Sort of "dlc" that i call "the revenge of the surviving bosses" :p
@@RetroGamerBoy from the list? I would like to say alien soldier or alicia's , but i prefer a new comix zone (but larger, there Is no need for modern graphics, but it should have more stages or at least longer ones, waaaay longer). Sunset riders AND land stalkers already have some Sort of "sequel" so I can take those out of the list What about you? wich one would you pick for a seq?
Nope, they were new games from the same developer. Climax even confirmed this, however I think several characters some several Climax games made it into Dark Savior.
@@RetroGamerBoy ...same designer, similar gameplay mechanics with twinstick-controls, same publisher and no exact competitor on the market back then. I'd say your definition of a sequel is a bit nit picky in this case.
@@RetroGamerBoy Well, I doubt this here. Esp because those are those three quite similar games by the same person who defined twin stick shooters as we know them today. And it was not always the case that sequels came up with the same name.
Yup, you use the face buttons on a 6 button pad for some of these games to mimic the second twin stick shooter. For Smash TV it had two arcade sticks per player and so is classed as a twin stick shooter, even on these console games.
@@RetroGamerBoy love how they keep changing dynamics to keep the game interesting. Gallery shooting mode? fun! Running stages? even better!. I can only think of Ninja Turtles trying similar stuff
Sega should really be ashamed of themselves with Comic Zone. You don't put a copyright on a specific gamestyle and never develop another game in that style... While Alien Storm is an original game many people call it the spiritual succesor to gunstar heroes
Ranger X on the Sega Genesis deserves to be on this list!
Quite a few games do, but I needed to limit it so that the video wasn't 30mims long😅
@@RetroGamerBoy i wouldn't complain at a 30min vid
E Swat should have gotten a sequel for sure! The first game was okay but a sequel could have improved upon it cuz it did feel kinda boring and maybe harder than it should have been. Also Chakan The Forever Man DEFINITELY should have had a sequel. That game was just BRUTAL and not much fun and a sequel could have been released to make it easier and more fun.
Alisia dragoon is one of the games I'm super proud to own in box, I love it as its literally one of my favourite sega megadrive games. Loved the video mike 👍💯⭐
Thanks, ya I love Alisia Dragoon. It's one of the few games that I'm missing the manual for.
@@RetroGamerBoy I'm missing the manual too 😊
Landstalker was one of my favorite Genesis games. I can remember being so elated when I finally finished that game. Wish I had the time to give it another go.
It's a stunning game. I absolutly love it.
@@RetroGamerBoy love ❤️ you from malaysia
It honestly doesn't take that long, my most recent playthrough clocked about 16 hours.
Great list! ! I would like to add one of my all times favorites: Gunstar Heroes!!
That actually had a sequal on the DS 🤯
@@RetroGamerBoy Wow!! I didn't know that!! I hope it was a worthy sequel, the first was awesome!
I believe Dark Savior, on the Saturn, is considered a spiritual sequel to Landstaker.
A few people think this, but it's not. It's a mashup of different Climax games, it doesn't carry over the story or the universe. Gamespot called it a sequel which is where I think people got the idea that it was a sequel.
Landstalker had two semi-sequels in Alundra on Playstation (developed by mostly the same team), and Dark Savior on Saturn (also Climax developed, very similar style)
Zero Tolerance also had a sequel, Beyond Zero Tolerance, but the Genesis kinda died before it was completed, the ROM is available to emulation I think
The Landstalker games were new IPs, Climax confirmed that they were not sequels. But they are still cool games. Beyond Zero Tolerance was actually cancelled so there i no comercial sequel you are right.
These are the types of video's I love because it reminds me to pick up and play all these games again especially ones I haven't played 🙏🏽👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Awesome I'm glad you enjoyed it.
A sequel to Gain Ground would've been nice. Great game, that.
Now that I think about it there was a “remaster” of sorts on the PS2 as part of the Sega Ages brand. Technically not a sequel though.
I found Gain Ground interesting, I always wondered what a modern version would look like.
Gain Ground is another game that appears on every console compilation along with Altered Beast, but Sega never make an actual sequel, that being said, if Altered Beast is anything to go by... best left alone.
Yay sunset 🌇 riders in this list 💖✨😃 very cool video 😁✌️
Such a great game.
Decapattack is a long-time favorite of mine. I bought it as a kid, fairly early on after buying the console, and I put a lot of time into it, and beat it a few times. Great graphics, awesome soundtrack, and some fun mechanics really kept me coming back.
Same here, I loved the game and not many of my friends had heard of it.
Awesome video as always! I'm unsure if they spawned sequels elsewhere but Zombies, Ristar and the Ooze come to mind.
Keep them coming Mike :) I'd love to see more graphics and maybe sound based shortlists/rankings. Maybe top games released each year from 1990 to 96/97? (any excuse to rank more than just a top 10 lol)
😂 Yup, while there is a break in new game news there will be one or two more of these.
Zombies Ate My Neighbors had a sequel called Goul Patrol, but it was a SNES exclusive.
Still remember playing Sunset Riders with my father on the arcades. Man, those were the days.
I loved spending my money on the arcade cab, that and the Turtles arcade cab.
Awesome episode Mike! I had never seen Alisia Dragon, Captain Decap and Zero Tolerance before! Thanks for the retro treat!
Really wow. You are in for a treat then.
Great list of games I remember owning Decap Attack , Alien Storm as a kid and played them a lot with family friends
👍 Video Mike
They are both amazing games.
Shadow Dancer will always be number 1 for me I play it so much
That is such a great game.
I could live with a sequel to all of thease except comix zone. That’s a unique gem best left alone. Thanks Mike
There are a few games that should just stay as a single release.
“Unique USP” is right up there with “ATM Machine”, “IC Circuit” and the like, but it’s the first time I’ve heard it, so… thanks for that! :)
It's the game developer in my talking. I try to reduce the acronyms for these videos but sometimes they slip out.
@@RetroGamerBoy I know the acronym - the part that tickled me is that you said "Unique USP", meaning "Unique Unique Selling Point", like "Automated Teller Machine Machine" or "Integrated Circuit Circuit".
Zero Wing was not only responsible for spawning the first meme I ever saw as a young teenager, but also being the first game I ever emulated due to seeing said meme haha.
That's cool. That whole first cutscene is hilarious.
Great video,cool shirt Mike 👍👍
Thanks, it was a lot of fun to make.
Wow, so many games would fit this list... Kid Chameleon and Chakan are two that popped up into my mind now!
Yup there are a ton out there.
Kid Chameleon, Bonanza Bros., General Chaos and Dahna also deserves to be on this list!
You've just added them 👍
Tragic to say the least with Comix Zone Mike. That game was amazing and needed a sequel so badly. 8^)
Anthony..
Yup, that game was an absolute marvel.
The lack of a sequel to Comix Zone is a crying shame. Can you imagine how amazing a sequel in the graphical style of Streets of Rage 4 would be? 😍
Also: did you know that Pyron is working on making an "Arcade Edition" version of Sunset Riders? It looks amazing already.
If Konami had made Pyron's edition of Sunset Riders back in the day, we would probably have a sequel by now. 😅
@@ostiariusalpha with the passion, dedication and enormous skill in the Megadrive homebrew community, and the amazingness of SGDK, I'm sure a group of fans could make a worthy sequel.
The issue with these modern remakes and it’s not a real issue, just a defence for the original creators.
It’s the allocated ROM size. Today getting a 8mb rom chip for a fake cartridge or just making an 8mb file is super easy and cheap. Back in the day ROM size was a budget they had to take care of. As the original developers only had 4mbits, which is 512 kilobytes, those guys were working with one hand behind their back.
Games like the original Sonic, Golden Axe 1 show you can still make a formidable game on that size, but modern remakes don’t do that.
Still pretty cool what Pyron are doing, but for that to have the go ahead back in the day was a tall task, as costs were just way different.
@@sloppynyuszi I would say that "time" and "tools" where even bigger factors. Comercial games are made to coincide with schedules homebrew don't have to adjust to. Also, game developing tools today are much more potent and versatile today. Finally, developers back then did not have ~34 years of experience with the hardware like they do today.
@@sloppynyuszi That's right about ROM chips limiting development. In fact, Sega developed some pretty sophisticated compression algorithms just to keep the ROM size down. That being said, Konami's management definitely cheaped out on the Sunset Riders ROM size versus what was actually available and how much more profitable a better port could have been. Sometimes you have to spend more money to make more money.
awesome channel, need more of these and top 10
I'll get on it :)
Gotta love the MD ... 😂
Always will 👍
Crusader of centy, that game is my favorite zelda clone around that time. Shame sega never continued it as a series.
I desperately want that game, but I refuse to pay the over the top price for it.
Mystical fighter. That's a fun beat em up that never got a sequel.
Oh I've not played that one yet, thanks for calling it out.
I still maintain that Alisia Dragoon has the best sountracks on the Mega Drive. It's beautiful.
It is absolutely stunning.
Fantastic games in there your right it is strange why they didnt have a follow up 👍👍👍👍
It's so odd, I guess they did not need the money.
Surprised Dynamite Headdy didn't make the list. That game is awesome!
Quite a few games could have made the list. There were some great games that never got a sequel.
Sunset Riders got a spiritual successor called Mystic Warriors which had VERY much the same style of gameplay, but with Ninjas instead of cowboys.
I'm focusing on direct sequels here but Mystical Warriors is an interesting game. I not sure its a spiritual successor as it was thematically different, I guess that's up for debate, but it certainly used the same engine and if I remember correctly even had references to Sunset Riders.
I had on idea they’re were so many. It would be easy money even today for developers to make sequels to any of these games. Great video! Cheers 🍻
Ya for devs it the best way to recoup costs on a game. It's amazing to see that some of these games never got a sequel on any other console.
I used to love decap attack,Bonanza Bros. and Flicky
All great games 👍
Landstalker got a sequel! It’s called Dark Saviour for the Saturn. They gave him a ridiculous mullet haircut though.
Ya thats what Gamespot called it, but Climax the developer says its a completely different game. It has non of the characters, does not share the same story line and is set in a completely different universe.
@@RetroGamerBoy well that explains the terrible mullet. I suppose Climax just wanted to make another unnecessarily awkward isometric platform puzzle game.
Now that I think about it there is no fairy and he is not a treasure hunter.
As someone who just got their first Sega Genesis these types of videos are perfect for me. I had a SNES growing up and never played the even played Genesis until a few years ago. Great video. P.S. I had to rewind the last part several times to see if that was a planned fall, I figured it was a joke but it looked real hahaha
🤣 I get a full week to recover from each fall.
In the case of Landstalker while there was no formal follow-up using the same franchise title it did get a successor on the Saturn in the form of Dark Savior. Same developers (Climax) also made Alundra in the same puzzle platforming mold on the PS1.
Some good sleeper games that were made on Genesis that didn't get a prompt follow-up are:
Master of Monsters
Gaiares
Sword of Vermilion
Ghostbusters
Mystic Defender
Crusader of Centy (They barely distributed in the first place)
Ristar
Herzog Zwei
They did make a MoM game eventually on the PS1 but that is not in the spirit of the Genesis version at all from what I have read.
I was going to say Herzog Zwei as well, great game. The climax games are more spiritual successors.
@@RetroGamerBoy I definitely know what you mean; I got thorough 95% of Landstalker and was much hoping for a direct continuity sequel for Saturn. Dark Savior is a solid game but an associated follow-up like Landstalker 2 or Landstalker: (Choose your own title) would have been preferred.
I believe these didn’t receive follow up other than a Game Gear version: Herzog Zwei, Mystical Defender, Ristar, Dynamite Headdy, Haunting, Kid Chameleon, General Chaos, Marvel Land
Yup, there were quite a few.
You could not have described Landstalker and Decapattack better! We have the same tastes 😃
🤘😝🤘
Smash tv reminds me alot of xenocrisis which is a awesome mega drive & Genesis Port and Decap Attack plays alot like Dynamite Headdy with his head being used as a weapon.
Xenocrisis was inspired by Smash TV
Landstalker (which by the way is a true gem) had a sequel on the Sega Saturn.
Really? what was it?
@@RetroGamerBoy The game is called Dark Savior.
@@RetroGamerBoy yeah there's this weird spinoff title for dreamcast timestalker. I think its turned based though.
Fun topic, and enjoyable video. Here's some other examples.. Gunstar Heroes, VirtuaRacing, Herzog Zwei. Also, some that might not have reached your criteria of critical success but I think are well remembered one hit wonders : Ristar, Dynamite Heady, Kid Chameleon and Dune: battle for Arrakis, which while technically a sequel in name, is totally different from the first game (if I'm not mistaken its an adventure game rather than RTS), and birthed the RTS genre!
Dune 2 was the first Westwood RTS game. It evolved into the Command and Conquer series, Dune 2 itself had a sequel/remake in the C&C engine called Dune 2000
@@businesscat380 yea I did actually know all that.. C&C is so huge in the genre but Dune deserves the credit, and C&C isn't a sequel. As far as this video goes, I forgot about the actual sequel, Dune 2000 so I guess Dune 2 still doesn't count. Bloody good game, tho!
Some good games there, Gunstar Heroes had a sequel on the DS and I was going to include Dune but there have been quite a few Dune RTS games so rather than get a bath full of hate I left it out.😁👍
Fear is the mind killer...
@@RetroGamerBoy good call 😎
Imagine Comix Zone made today with cell shaded graphics and an Arkham style combat system. Take. My. Money.
That would be amazing.
I really out to check out Landstalker. And how Sunset Riders suddenly vanished is a tragedy.
For sure. I think Sunset Riders could get the SoR4 treatment.
I think ,back in the day, a successful game was fine as a standalone as it was often the developer that was the "franchise" back then. These days sequels are more down to playing it safe given near Hollywood movie level development costs, especially with all the remakes and remasters as well, funnily enough, same with Hollywood.
I think it's even more exaggerated for gaming. With films they save on the marketing costs, for games they save everywhere, game engine, staff costs, assets, marketing etc.
One other solid One Hit Wonder was Sword of Vermilion
Yes, yes, yes. Good call.
So fun fact: Land Stalker DID see a sequel, a Dreamcast game by the title of Timestalker
You didn't start out as Nigel&Friday but they did join the party of playable characters
I think this was a cross over game, it included several characters from Climax's first games.
I was surprised that we never got another Kid chameleon game I liked the idea it could've been an open world beat em up by now
That's very true, it was a cool game back in the day.
Have a go at the fan-made sequel - you can find a rom online. It is impossible-hard!
Decap attack! ❤ I love that game! What about Rolo to the rescue? As far as I am aware there was never a sequel.
Your right I don't think there was, I'm guessing the sales for it were not enough to justify the cost for a sequel.
There was a kind of sequel to landstalker on the sega Saturn...dark saviour. its very similar style but you can now turn the camera. Got quite good reviews even if back then every git turned there noses up if it was 2d instead of 3d.
Ya that was a new game not a sequel. Climax put in a number of characters from a few of their old games in to this game.
Kid Chameleon !!!!
I don't know in USA, but here in Brazil it was very successful.
You're from the UK, sorry, i didn't know. I don't know if this game was released there.
Same in the UK. it was a great game.
Very cool video about these hits on Megadrive/Genesis ! We recently made a video about "Comix Zone" and "Ranger X" on Lord Paddle, I hope you'll see this ! I really love "Alien Soldier", this is one of the best run and gun shooter on Mega drive and a true "Treasure" game - no puns intended :)) - for the fans ! Nice video Mike ! ;)
Thank you Sir, I'll go check out this video.
@@RetroGamerBoy You are welcome ! See you soon ! ;)
I know I'm guilty of not telling you this often, but great show, as always
Kid chameleon was the first one that come to mind. Yeah, super mario rip off it may be, and quite long and challenging (I almost said 'long and hard' but that wouldn't be what we mean, like a Micheal Scott "that's what she said" kinda thing).
Still we did earn a kid chameleon sequel
I've never played the sequel, was it a Genesis only release?
Awesome video!
Thanks, it was fun to put together.
Great vid mate thank you :-)
No problem 👍
High Seas Havoc is the best platformer for the Genesis, and it should've gotten a sequel. Also Quackshot and Adventures of Batman & Robin.
Havoc is amazing, I only recently got it and was amazed at how good it was.
Comix Zone came with an Audio CD soundtrack!!!
I know. I would love to have a copy of this.
I don't know about the home ports of Alien Storm even though i own it but the arcade version is just awesome 👍.
It's frikin amazing, the little intro at the beginning is brilliant.
We also had Time Stalkers for Dreamcast in the Landstalker series
And Dark Savior on Saturn which was spiritally connected.
Alundra on the PSX is it's spiritual successor, written and programmed by the same team.
Unfortunately no direct sequels, all spiritual successors bot not continuation of the franchise. I wish they would.
Some classics ❤️ ❤️
For sure
there are some programmers that are porting the sunset riders arcade edition for the Sega. and I can assure you that those advances look better than in the same snes
Yes I've seen this, it looks amazing.
Jewel master and battle mania 1 and 2 are great games
I love Jewel Master.
Hi Mike. Excellent video as always. And I hope you'll keep us updated regarding your own Mega Drive project.
That being said check out what the developer Pyron of the SF romhack is currently working on regarding a Sunset Riders remake:
th-cam.com/video/iHR2DhfFhT4/w-d-xo.html
I'm curious what your thoughts are regarding this remake. Take care and keep up the good work! Regards, Duncan
I love what they are doing, I'l make a video on it at some point.
What about Dark Savior on the Saturn? That's essentially the sega follow up for Landstalker. Or did the sequel need to be on the same hardware?
The sequel could be on any hardware. Dark Savior though was not a sequel, it was a mash-up of different Climax games. It also did not carry over the story or the universe, Gamespot called it a sequel in a review or preview and it seems to have stuck.
what a blood great video only just come across your channel +1 sub today sir....some good gems on that list...can i ask what is that wii game running in the background at 8m04s in to the video
That is Far Cry Vengeance, it's an interesting game in the franchise. Thanks for joining the community here.
@@RetroGamerBoy thanks for having me,,,ill have to have a look at that FCV
Some classic games there mate👍🏻
Yup, this console had some great games.
Zero tolerance voice over: shotgun, collected! My bro played the hell outta of that game on pegasus. Which is a eastern European knockoff console!
It such an amazing game, one of my all time favourites on the console.
Another really fun list. I thought Dark Savior was a sequel to Landstalker. Was it more of a spiritual sequel? or maybe I’m way off as I don’t know the Saturn or its games very well. Great video Mike. I literally just got my Demons of Asteborg in the mail today so I need to go dive into that.
That's awesome to hear. I love the game. Dark Savior was just a game made by the same team, it was created as a new IP but of course that team would have been influenced by their past games.
@@RetroGamerBoy Ahh, that makes a lot of sense about the team and Dark Savior. Thanks Mike. I only got to play Demons for a few minutes last night so I'm settling in and getting ready for a long play tonight.
Loved Landstalker. Favourite game ever. Wasn't Dark Saviour on Saturn considered a quasi sequel?
They were new games made by the same team. Dark Saviour did have characters from other Climax games including Landstalker.
I always thought Kid Chameleon could have used a sequel or overhaul.
With today's indie dev that's possible.
did time stalker on dreamcast have anything to do with the gens game?
It was a crossover game that featured several Climax games in it.
I think Ristar can be in this kind of list 😎
It is, there are quite a few. I had to limit my list to make sure the video was not too long.
Landstalker is my absolute favourite Genesis game, and it bums me out that Climax folded before they made the remake and planned sequels on the PSP
Yup it's a real pitty
8:03
What is that game in the background?
Far Cry on Wii is on the big LDC, Streets of Rage is on the large CRT, Mario/Duck Hunt cart on the small CRT and Final Fantasy III in the small LCD.
Your telling me that Far Cry
has a digtial Wii controls on the screen,
and a tiny version of the gameplay with a big black boarder?
I thought it was a prerecorded video of you doing a first person view, showing the Wii remotes and the gameplay, with your camera.
Dynamite Heady and Gain Ground should have been on the list.
Ohhh Dynamite Heady, that is a great looking game.
Sonic obviously got a sequel on the Dreamcast. What other Genesis/Megadrive classics saw sequels on the Dreamcast? I’m thinking not many, which seems unwise.
Phantasy Star, Ecco, Thunder Force had a concept/prototype. There are probably more.
Aw yeah, love me some Landstalker--though I've not finished it! Ugh, I need to remedy that. Also, wait, what? Ladystalker on SNES!?
Alien Storm is fantastic! Surprised it never got a sequel.
DeCapAttack is so much fun--it's one of those games that make me feel like it could've been a Beetlejuice (cartoon) title but they didn't get the licensing. Alisia Dragoon is a lot of fun--AND a strong female hero made it right up Lady Laci's alley.
Was Zero Tolerance one you and Sega Head have discussed before? It seems familiar.
I'm sure we've covered it in some way on Live at the Arcade, and how do you not have Ladystalker? 😅
@@RetroGamerBoy Ah, I think you're recalling my school days nickname of Lady Stalker. I'm banned from 5 states and have the death sentence in 12 systems.
I believe Total carnage was the sequel to smash tv as almost every mum n pop video game store go to confirms it . I have both games and they play almost identical .
Ya, I know the original studio head, and he said its not. It's was made on the same engine and used some assets. They wanted this to be a new game though.
ComixZone is such a good game, too bad there is no version for SNES or any other.
I'm so surprised they did not make a sequel.
How about Ghostbusters on genesis? Awesome game that never got a sequel.
There are a few out there for sure.
Great vid dude
Thanks, it was fun to research.
Just sstarting my MD collection, so far have:
Rocket Knight
Streets of Rage 2
Mortal Kombat
Sonic 2
Mega Games 6
TMNT Hyperstone ( heck no is it official haha, no game is worth over 100 quid)
World of Illusion
I heard Sunset Riders isn't very good on the MD and the SNES version is far superior?
I was going to trade my WII U games for some more as I can get them all digitally anyways. But I have a kid now so I only get to play briefly in an evening so MD games suit me well as they are rather short.
Awesome start, you can always get copies. These games are super expensive now and there is nothing wrong with building out your games with clones.
Surprised Ristar wasn’t mentioned. I suppose the game gear demake is kinda a different experience?
There's an indie sequel for Ristar in the works. Check out DevBoyDibs channel.
This was by no means a definitive list, I kept it to ten so the video wasn't 30mins long.
@@RetroGamerBoy it’s cool! Can’t do all the content in one go! ;)
You does what nintendont!
😂 Thanks
Has anybody experienced co op/link up mode on Zero Tolerance? I heard the cables were mail order only and are now extremely rare, apparently you can make one by soldering together 2 female Megadrive controller ends? I wouldn't dare destroy official controllers to try this out, but I definitely would give it a try with some crappy ones from Ali Express 🤣😎👍 PS , please, please, please do an episode on the 4 player adapter and the compatible games 🙏
I have a cable, it works amazingly. The original developer has also release how you can make your own cable.
Isn't Dark Saviour on the Saturn a spiritual follow up to Landstalker?
Yes same isometric gameplay
Yes, but not a direct sequel. It's strange that they did not take advantage of an IP that was so popular.
Whos the 3D Girl on your thumbnail? What game is that from?
It's Karen from Alienstorm.
great video, I loved comix zone, the only downside that game has is how ridiculous short it is (you can beat it in 15 minutes if you know what to do, and it took me around an hour to finish it the first time i played it)
Land stalker was a game that blew my mind at the time, and i really liked this tille (I also loved lady stalker as well, tough i dont know why lady looks like that when it could have been so much better), and then there is the amazing Dark Savior fot the Saturn, wich is basically a land stalker 2 (tough is not).
What I do not understand is the comparation with zelda (not so similar and i still think zelda is superior) but a more zelda like game would be story of thor, wich is another amazing game).
Alien Storm was a game i really loved on the arcades (the genesis version is ok but sort of different) , i do not think it would have worked as a franchise , probably the sequel would not have worked that well.
I reaaaaally enjoyed playing super smash tv on my snes, too bad the game got no sequel
Alisia dragoon was a game that reaaaaaaaally could have a sequel, and the mechanics it used could easily been updated to modern gaming, a shame that this game was forgotten and the same applies to Alien Soldier...
sunset riders got no squel, buuuuuuuut konami made 3 other games that are basically "sequels" Cow Boys of Moo Mesa , Mystic Warriors (This one made by the same ppl that made SR) AND the Génesis versión has so Manny differences that i take that game as some Sort of "dlc" that i call "the revenge of the surviving bosses" :p
If you could choose one, which would you choose to have a sequal?
@@RetroGamerBoy from the list?
I would like to say alien soldier or alicia's , but i prefer a new comix zone (but larger, there Is no need for modern graphics, but it should have more stages or at least longer ones, waaaay longer).
Sunset riders AND land stalkers already have some Sort of "sequel" so I can take those out of the list
What about you? wich one would you pick for a seq?
What? Timestalkers on Dreamcast and Dark Savior on Saturn had no connection with Landstalker? 🤔
Nope, they were new games from the same developer. Climax even confirmed this, however I think several characters some several Climax games made it into Dark Savior.
I preferred magical hat.... I know I'm the minority on that one.
Hey we all have different taste's, it's what makes gaming so awesome.
And Soleil needed a sequel, for sure.
I still don't have that game in my collection.
Total Carnage is the sequel for Smash TV
... and Smash TV is the sequel of Robotron 2084.
It's just the same game engine, it's not a sequel to the game.
@@RetroGamerBoy ...same designer, similar gameplay mechanics with twinstick-controls, same publisher and no exact competitor on the market back then. I'd say your definition of a sequel is a bit nit picky in this case.
@@vetodrom That is just a fact. A new IP is not a sequel having built some big AAA games I know my stuff 👍
@@RetroGamerBoy Well, I doubt this here. Esp because those are those three quite similar games by the same person who defined twin stick shooters as we know them today. And it was not always the case that sequels came up with the same name.
4:24 Twin stick shooter on the Sega Genesis?!?!?!
Yup, you use the face buttons on a 6 button pad for some of these games to mimic the second twin stick shooter. For Smash TV it had two arcade sticks per player and so is classed as a twin stick shooter, even on these console games.
@@RetroGamerBoy Cool! Thanks for explaining it!
Still waiting on Barney's Hide And Seek part 2
You and the rest of the MD / Genesis community. The #1 requsted game.
@@RetroGamerBoy it could be called Barney: Seek and Destroy
I might be wrong here but i always thought Alundra was the sequel to Landstalker.
Not a sequel but written and programmed by the same people.
@@OllyDee123 I see thank you!
No, just by the same people. But it's a stunning game on the PS1.
TOKI goes ape spit
Yup, that's another one.
Alient Storm should def have a sequel
For sure, I love that game.
@@RetroGamerBoy love how they keep changing dynamics to keep the game interesting. Gallery shooting mode? fun! Running stages? even better!. I can only think of Ninja Turtles trying similar stuff
@@diegocrusius it was such a dynamic game and the pace changes were amazing.
I always considered Alien Storm as part of a Golden Axe quadrilogy. The engine was very similar, same move sets, so... yeah. Great list Mike!
Interesting, I had not considered that.
Sword of Vermillion
Good call.
Sega should really be ashamed of themselves with Comic Zone. You don't put a copyright on a specific gamestyle and never develop another game in that style...
While Alien Storm is an original game many people call it the spiritual succesor to gunstar heroes
But Gunstar Heroes got a sequel, so it can't be a spiritual successor. The sequel was on the DS.
Too bad that Alien Soldier had a whole lot of content cut. If the they rereleased the game with all that content … it would count as a sequel. ;)
For sure, I would love to see the full version.