Router Table Build - For Your Table Saw (Easy)

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  • Router Table Build. Rob Cosman shows you how to make a router insert for your table saw. This is a easy and very efficient place to locate your router. You can use the table saw fence as your router fence. Most of the table is already built since you are using a wing of your table saw.
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  • @MMWoodworking
    @MMWoodworking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Every time I hear the intro I always think, "You know what, you've done your job, Rob, you have made me a better woodworker.".
    I love this channel. I don't actually use a ton of hand tools, but there is just soooo much information in every video that goes beyond the main topic that I learn something new every time. I show the wood movement video to every woodworker I know. It was a game changer for me, and almost all of them keep it on a playlist to refer back to when needed.
    Thanks to everyone who helps put these videos together, they are really well done, and have improved so much over time. I really look forward to new videos dropping. Stay safe, and best wishes.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks Miles, so glad they are helpful. I will pass your comments on to Luther, Jake and Frick, we all work together to make these videos

  • @jamespppyacek342
    @jamespppyacek342 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Using the tape to copy the corner radius is one of those zillions of tips I get from ww videos. I appreciate that things don't always go perfectly, and seeing that honestly depicted here.

  • @FCWW87
    @FCWW87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like nonchalantly you introduced the table saw. “This here is the industrial sawstop.” I’m sitting here drooling over that saw!!

  • @GM-gc8gg
    @GM-gc8gg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great tip to use the CA glue on the MDF.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do it all the time to toughen up the core. Thanks for commenting

  • @just_a_guy_and_his_tacos
    @just_a_guy_and_his_tacos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this saved me money on a router table plate from amazon. thanks rob. also i always find your work entertaining. your slightly scatterbrian yet super excellent work makes me see that someday i could be half as good as you. thanks for taking the time to make these videos

  • @CorbyQ
    @CorbyQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a super new woodworker starting my first project next week, I have learned so much from your channel. Thank you so much. It is so appreciated.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to hear! let me know how your first project goes

  • @nasa1954
    @nasa1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your teaching style. You explain your thinking as you go, and don't rush. Your accent and the timbre of your voice remind me of Red Green, but you build stuff that actually work!

  • @shooterspodcast8667
    @shooterspodcast8667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video! I am about to refresh the router table my Dad made and I will use many of your details.
    Thank you.

  • @lincolndickerson1293
    @lincolndickerson1293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your style of teaching. You talk through your thinking. It makes everything less daunting. WWRCD… he would talk it through before moving forward.

  • @grumblycurmudgeon
    @grumblycurmudgeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the reason I love watching Rob so much is you can just TELL how impatient he is with all parts of the universe that don't involve him in some way manipulating (cutting, shaping, smoothing, refining, coloring, etc.) wood.
    Even tools.
    Like most woodworkers, I'm a total geek when it comes to tools. Can't get enough. Rob clearly appreciates FINE tools... but only for what they can do for him... when it comes to manipulating wood. Like, every time I watch him sharpening something, he goes at it like he's personally offended at the universe for dragging him away from his tree butchery...
    ...until the last 90 seconds or so. The he gets excited. His subconscious has just perked back up/tuned back in. "We're gonna hafta test that you know." (I always picture) comes it's sly remark to his id. "What? Yes fine, whatever!" It snaps back, concentrating.
    Then, giddy with the confirmation and soaring on feathered, shaving-clad wings trailing a cloud of sawdust, his inner journeyman (if Rob has an inner child he has it in the back oiling something) begins to show, like a senior with a really hot prom date who has a "reputation".
    The last 30 seconds are like watching a cabinet maker's ballet, a man who, like a flight attendant going through the motions of how to work a lap belt, performs the steps he's executed more times than anyone can count as a single fluid gesture, total economy of movement.
    Then, the best part (I think): you can actually SEE the words "f-ing FINALLY" cross his features as he damn near SPRINTS to the nearest billet, board, blank, or burl - gods help the intern unfortunate, in the Darwinian sense, to be standing along that path (he IS holding the sharpest item in the shop at that moment, after all) - grabs hold of it, and that same blissful, beatific look ones sees on a heroin junkie, just out of prison, and turning into his dealers driveway, settles across his features.
    I swear: on that cabinet scraper tutorial, I'm pretty sure he cut himself a line of walnut dust then and there when the camera panned away.
    I love woodworking. It's my favorite hobby in life. Rob's least favorite hobby is life. Crap keeps getting in the way of his woodworking. It's like watching Tiger Woods with a golf club, Michael Jordan with a basketball, Neil deGrasse Tyson with a telescope, Donald Trump with his own horn. That's a man who found his Shangri-La.
    ...until the F-ING THING GETS DULL AGAIN! :)

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a detailed comment

    • @grumblycurmudgeon
      @grumblycurmudgeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking I hope he took every word as flattering; it was intended to be. Rob's a personal hero.

  • @bansheeindahouz7594
    @bansheeindahouz7594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I truly appreciate your videos! Even though the editing and camera are well done, the human aspect (error) is not removed. I like seeing how you approach changes, challenges and errors! It's sometimes difficult for a new woodworker like me to watch these videos and get a little down about messing something up. You show the process, good and bad, which proves no matter how long you're at something there is always room for error 😁

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks we always show the errors learning how to fix the errors is almost more important than learning how to build the thing in the first place

  • @daveduncan9005
    @daveduncan9005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found that removing the springs from the router makes for easier adjustments, especially if I have a router that I can dedicate to this type of operation.

  • @01fifer
    @01fifer หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just subscribed, love the router table, I will give it a bash

  • @samdiamond7642
    @samdiamond7642 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used boshes cut on push blades and they've worked well everytime

  • @joejones6159
    @joejones6159 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful, well equipped workshop! I’m so envious!

  • @1deerndingo
    @1deerndingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ohh to be living in Canada and using those square drive screws. Most common screws in Australia are either Phillips or straight slot. You can get them here, but they are a specialty. I might just convert over and just be done with it.

  • @santhony74
    @santhony74 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No insert plate or top access adjustment...mind blown. Nice work!

  • @dc-ic5lj
    @dc-ic5lj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rob, there were lots of handy tips in that one 😊

  • @dupazelli1
    @dupazelli1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a new router , thanks for this project !

  • @joejr.971
    @joejr.971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoa! New intro! Time to learn this one word for word aswell. Great video as always rob

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      we reshot all the call to action videos...and I shaved!!!!

  • @monteglover4133
    @monteglover4133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If you seal the mdf with poly on all sides it will make it more moisture resistant, tougher,last longer, and slicker (and easer to wax)

  • @DKWalser
    @DKWalser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob -- I always benefit from seeing you in action. I particularly enjoy watching you diagnose and solve a problem. My two for 'next time': First, use the saw's fence to help with laying out the location of the opening in the saw's wing. Second, cover both sides of the MDF plate with plastic laminate. It will help make the plate much more durable.
    Having said that, I think I've made my last custom plate for a router table. I use a number of different sized bits in my router table. Either I need to make a bunch of plates and switch them out as I switch bits, or I'm going to have a plate that a hole large enough for my largest bits -- which would mean using a plate with a too-large-hole for my smaller bits. The advantage of the commercially available plates are the variety of throat-inserts that allow you to customize the size of the opening to fit the bit you're using.

  • @coreygrua3271
    @coreygrua3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Leave it to RC to look past a tool’s original design and Cosmanize it with aplomb. That is such a good “next level” example for me. So many instruction manuals warn against modification, voiding warranties. A mind like Rob’s is necessary to modify safely so that progress can be made.

  • @CharlesNolanArt
    @CharlesNolanArt ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, sir, it must be a luxury to have a massive table saw, and I don't have any DeWalt tools. However, I'm sure the process will work as good using Ryobi. Thanks for sharing, Rob. I will be trying this!

  • @andrewbrown8148
    @andrewbrown8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great space saving technique~! I really love the tape trick you demonstrated. I've seen a lot of tape tricks, but that one was a first. Thanks much, Rob~!

  • @maoliosakitchen8373
    @maoliosakitchen8373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant thank you that is exactly what I wanted. Top Job

  • @pankajmakwana2300
    @pankajmakwana2300 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video thank you. I think I will build similar to save space.

  • @davidsneddon2242
    @davidsneddon2242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent as always Rob. Great delivery and execution. I have a new router to mount so thank you.

  • @carlwebinar1571
    @carlwebinar1571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Rob, in the future when routing MDF, please use some sort of respirator/dust mask. It is NASTY stuff and we need you around.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes that’s why I changed and put on the mask and made the comment that I should have been wearing one

    • @carlwebinar1571
      @carlwebinar1571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking - don't know how I missed that part.

  • @wrodrigues08
    @wrodrigues08 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, this is my next project!

  • @danthechippie4439
    @danthechippie4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Rob, I realise sawstop makes router table that does exactly what you are doing here but at huge cost. Great tips with the blue tape

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well they make one for the cast iron ring for the win

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cast iron wing and one for the saw table but we’ve gotten reports of the cast iron wing drooping under the weight of heavy saws and I didn’t wanna spend the money for the tablesaw insert

  • @larsonbennett5903
    @larsonbennett5903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrific instruction! Thank you.

  • @qmoonwalker3847
    @qmoonwalker3847 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done!

  • @hanspijpers2100
    @hanspijpers2100 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are saw blades with the teeth directing in the other way, (downwards) just to keep a clean cutting edge on the top They work like a charm kind regards Hans

  • @jonparker6884
    @jonparker6884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've learnt a huge amount from these videos. Thank you. In this case given that you comment that you could change router bits in place, wouldn't it have been quicker, easier and more reliable to just bolt the router to the underside of the existing table? You've gone to a lot of effort to cut a hole in an already flat and smooth table, and then fill it in again.

    • @bobs88s11
      @bobs88s11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      His concern was deflection of the table when considering the weight of the router, and the relatively thin Sawstop table/extension material. Stumpynubs, another TH-cam guy, identified the same problem as he initially did as you suggested as well.

    • @ishtlutz1261
      @ishtlutz1261 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe he’s doing it to make the router removable? And cut the hole so that he can … put other tools like a jig saw or … a different tool in there?
      Idk I’m still watching. Hmm. …. Man, He sure does a long time to do stuff though. It’s like… it’s sort of boring watching someone try to figure Things out as they go…. Especially when it’s doing things you’re totally not gonna be doing also - & all you wanted to do was get the solid steps & techniques on how to make or do something. I mean dude like WHOAH … all I’ve seen so far almost half way through is…. a hole be cut… & since then - some fussing with the fine details of it… &
      ******* Whoahhh again. I’m back. I’m sure no one even noticed but I left but I did. Yeah I Went to the kitchen.. got something to drink.. I was a little thirsty. I left my phone on the chair - it was still playing this video when I left the room. I had a whole conversation with my Mom - about juice. & laundry baskets & stuff.. and now I’m back. And to my ‘surprise’ (& this is the reason I typed WHOAH a second time) when I got back…. This guy was STILL FUSSING with that God for sakin HOLE. Jeeeez REALLY? Uhhhhh.
      While he fusses some more with that hole & that glue…. I just thought I’d point out that at the beginning he started the video out by saying his name with pride: ROB.. Coswaybor something. & I LIKED the way he said his name. Such confidence. The way he said it made ME confident in HIM. Thus… the reason im sitting here almost 30 mins in. But he Also said at the beginning of the video was that he’s gonna “show us how HE makes them” (router tables that is.) I bring that up because by the looks of this he.. DOESN’T.. “make them.” Not often. If he did, I’d think he’d have this whole thing DOWN. But he doesn’t. In fact this whole video….. this man appears to have been winging this project. If I didn’t know any better I just might think this guy was layin it on a little think…. Trying to make it sound like he makes them all the time & stuff. “Im gonna show you how “I”‘make them.
      Dude I’m just gonna say it ok?! And……I mean this is like…. it’s like the worst router table making video I think I’ve SEEN. I mean, Ive never seen any other videos from this guy but from the comments it sounds like he has some viewers that are fond of him. Sounds like he has some fans. So I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt & assume that this one was just a … FLOP. I mean … horrible. This video SUCKED. WORST router table video possibly on all of TH-cam. MAN I wish I never turned this video on. Think I wanna watch some man FUSS over GLUE & some HOLE in a table & nit pick the whole time about the very work he made jt sound like he did all the time.
      Pfffft.

  • @davidcampbell2845
    @davidcampbell2845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ingenious, and excellent instruction as always.

  • @skiphughes7705
    @skiphughes7705 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect timing. I am doing one this weekend
    Thanks

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we knew that which is why we made this for you !!!!!

    • @skiphughes7705
      @skiphughes7705 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking Why thank you haha

  • @hacc220able
    @hacc220able 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent - thanks for sharing

  • @martinoamello3017
    @martinoamello3017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done.. I have a 52" PCS, but the right side is up against a wall and I didn't get the wheels so I guess first the wheels, make a lot of new space somehow THEN the router insert. In the meantime I'll keep using my cheapo knock together router table..

  • @ckutzli
    @ckutzli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job Rob!

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks great

  • @pawpawstew
    @pawpawstew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel and I love the DIY aspect of this project, but I would have bought either a aluminum router plate made for this router model (or a universal one), or used phenolic board for the base vs. MDF.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That works too. I prefer MDF. they are both good options

  • @awlthatwoodcrafts8911
    @awlthatwoodcrafts8911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great instruction on how to do this without spending hundreds of dollars on router lifts and such.
    I used a leftover piece of melamine for mine and from the looks of the underside of your SawStop table, I braced mine exactly the same way (makes me feel good). I have a Bosch 1617 router so I bought a Bosch plate as I didn't want to run into any fitment issues.
    I made a fence using plans from #dpmakestuff and I'm finishing up a dust box made from scrap plywood.
    I love the options a router table gives me. I've had a router for a quite a while but without a table, I hardly ever used it. Now I use it a lot. Rabbets and dados are so much easier than using a table saw (wherever possible, of course) with a single blade. I make my own trim whenever I can, too, as profiling on a router table is so much safer and easier.

  • @davidstewart3851
    @davidstewart3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do like that use of the CA glue on the mdf raw edge. .

  • @montyswoodworkscrafts2232
    @montyswoodworkscrafts2232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this build and video. I have a home made router table that I’ve tweaked and improved over the years and now off to change how i set up for levelling the insert. Thanks for sharing and providing inspiration.

  • @MrSharper802
    @MrSharper802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and a great option. Agree that using this part of the table saw for a router is perfect. I did the same thing at first but then upgraded to the SawStop cast iron extension top that allows for a router plate and router lift. Added the Jessem plate and router lift with a porter cable 3 1/4 HP router motor. Its amazing. Even when reinforced the standard extension table can't handle the weight of the big motor and lift. It sags eventually.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey that’s great feedback thanks

    • @inspectr1949
      @inspectr1949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree but the cost is tremendous, Rob's solution is by far and away bare bones minimal.

  • @Mr__V
    @Mr__V ปีที่แล้ว

    I just made ine myself as well on melamine.
    Whats the point of making and fitting the plate rather than just mounting it directly to the bottom of the board?
    Im sure theres a reason but i just diy it without really looking into examples and that's what made the most sense to me.

  • @G-Force77
    @G-Force77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea Rob, I may try building one into my table saw. After... I learn how to use my new dove tail saw. It came yesterday, how nice!! Thank you, Gordon

  • @dbnoho
    @dbnoho 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this idea. I have the 36” pcs.
    But I just can’t do it. I know I can replace it. But I just can’t bring myself to cut into the table. Even though it sits unused 90% of the time.

  • @briantaylor9266
    @briantaylor9266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always enjoy your videos, Rob. Maybe you could comment at some point on the selection of a router to mount in a table. Personally, I'm very happy with my Triton, which has a number of features intentionally built in with table mounting in mind. Admittedly, not everyone has the luxury of selecting a router to mount in their table. Many will have their router already and then decide to put it (sometimes) into a table.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Triton is an awesome router. I have had my routers for many years and love them and have not really kept up with the current batch. Maybe I will buy some and do an evaluation

  • @susanrandleas5029
    @susanrandleas5029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You do nice work😊

  • @seanbrown4920
    @seanbrown4920 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my next project. Thanks! I think I'm going to use a commercial router plate though. The MDF seems a little sketchy.

  • @bobhargesheimer3514
    @bobhargesheimer3514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob - Thanks for all the hard work you guys put in helping us be better.
    As an aside, when I have to glue up questionable surfaces (like melamine) my go to is 3M 5200. Haven't found a surface yet that it won't work on.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great tip thanks

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just rough up the surface first. Sandpaper or even scotchbrite pad will do... get the gloss off, but scratches actually help the adhesion. When building a T joint with double-faced melamine panels, I run bits of tape down so I can sand the melamine close to (but hidden) where the edge of the intersecting board will fit.

  • @NBCRGraphicDesign
    @NBCRGraphicDesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always learn something, even when I don't always agree with your chosen methodology. I've never seen your Bosch pivoting head drill... PS11BN.... Maybe you can do a show on just specialty drills??? Another great video. Thanks!

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we just made a video on drills where I show that will be out in a week or two

  • @Richard-dh8ny
    @Richard-dh8ny 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic job Rob! What brand of rabbiting bits do you like to use? I didn't see any bits listed on your store. Poor quality bearings seems to be the biggest complaint with rabbiting sets. Looking for a good option of quality vs cost. Thanks!

  • @keitharcher6913
    @keitharcher6913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as usual Rob, always learning new ideas from you so much appreciated. Just a suggestion but I rout some quite small pieces so the router is mounted similar to yours but in 6mm steel plate. I then have seperate adjustable inserts but with different size holes for small or larger router bits. Makes working on smaller parts safer.

  • @dpmeyer4867
    @dpmeyer4867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @joelwinter4956
    @joelwinter4956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing this! It's been on my mental to-do list for this very extension table, and I've been thinking about how best to make it happen. I appreciate it so much!

  • @user-dm8hs7gy1p
    @user-dm8hs7gy1p ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob, I am wondering why you mounted your unit in line across the table. This tends to ensure you work at the end of the table instead of at the front. Secondly it would enable you to rout much longer pieces along the table with the only extra support needed at one end instead of at the back and the front. I understand that the saw fence can be utilised front to back, but you can mount a fence along the table with the necessary t-slots and perhaps a longe fence.

  • @adtymryd6295
    @adtymryd6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Rob, I would like to thank you for this build, it really put my doubt to make a router table almost gone and want to immediately go for it.
    Just one question that bugs me; if you're using 1/2 inch MDF as the base plate, wouldn't it kind of too thick that it makes the router bit can't come up high enough? By the way, I use my router mainly for template routing so that's what got me worrying for not having the bit come up high enough

    • @TrixyLixyStix
      @TrixyLixyStix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same thing. Plus, if you already have a table, why not simply drill the table and not have a plate at all? Sorry if there is a simple reason why not.

  • @Dazza19746
    @Dazza19746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quicker, neater and easier to make up a template from the get go. ( just doesn’t seem like it when you’re doing it 😂)
    Then with clever use of bushings you can cut the hole and the insert 👍🏻

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tried...I just didnt think it through good enough and had to change in mid-stream

  • @nevadacool
    @nevadacool หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you are spending $4000 on a saw stop table saw, it makes no sense to not purchase the $400 router wing that saves all the headache you have presented in this video.
    I purchased the 1.75hp PCS, for $3000, and the router wing, plus the saw stop router fence, and router lift, for around $4000. What is missing is a way to micro adjust the router fence to sneak up on the perfect cut. Hopefully you can come up with a video on that in the future, thanjs.

  • @carterscustomrods
    @carterscustomrods 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you add a router table to the right side wing, you limit outfeed for larger stock.
    I like using it on my left wing. That way my wood always goes in one direction whether it's on the router table, or table saw.
    This also allows me the ability to use the table saw outfeed for my router outeed. So if I'm routing on linger boards, I can have them supported easier.
    Plus, on my saw the left wing is much smaller. So it will have far more support and less sag over the years . And since I'm using a 3/8" mdf laminated on a ¾ BB plywood sheet, it makes a ⅜" router insert plate a perfect fit and rest directly upon the plywood. Now I don't need levelers or extra elevation hardware to make my router plate sit flush.

  • @ascienceguy-5109
    @ascienceguy-5109 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job. Sometime show how your setup accommodates adjusting the height of the router bit, especially the micro-adjust. My major problem with under-mount routers, even commercial tables, is that the height adjustment is a real pain in the you-know-what.

  • @jerrystark3587
    @jerrystark3587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I usually cut the hole for the router with a router. I just set up a template and use a flush cutting bit to establish the hole by lowering the bit into the material about 1/4" at a time. This yields no tear out problems in either laminate or plywood. If tear out in plywood is a concern, just use a marking knife to carefully score the surface using the template as a guide. This does not work with hard surface laminates, however.
    BTW. You don't need to worry about whether Gorilla Glue will stick to melamine or MDF. The glue will bond securely to anything but polypropylene or polyethylene plastics.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that was my plan to until I screwed up the template that I made and I had to go with my alternate method of a kind of pieced together template

  • @tonyborzumato8510
    @tonyborzumato8510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could have avoided the jigsaw chipout by pre-scoring the surface along the cut line. Also - cutting the opening for a "standard" sized mounting plate would have given you the option to add a router lift in the future.

  • @ChaimbenKalman1
    @ChaimbenKalman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will the dust collection tube to the right of the router get in the way?

    • @briantaylor9266
      @briantaylor9266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would suggest that it won't. I have a similar router setup on my table saw, with obstructions on the immediate right. They have never been a problem.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      no..it rotates

  • @philraymond2543
    @philraymond2543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not make it out of MDF the same thickness as the table to and extend it past the ribs to use the ribs as support?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that’s a good idea where were you when I was designing this thing?

  • @trevorwinter5071
    @trevorwinter5071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Using 1/2 inch MDF for sub-base reduces travel significantly, would not 1/8 Al Alloy be more suitable?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont know...but I dont have any of that sitting around my shop

  • @stormkhan4250
    @stormkhan4250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a question: any reason you didn't make a corner template jig to round all 4 corners of the router mounting plate?? Using the tape you used to transfer the corner radius to make the jig template (with some of that spare MDF you have lots of) means you only need to shape accurately 1 'corner' then use the jig to template route all 4 corners with a flush trim and all 4 corners will be identical and might save you some time?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because I thought my way is quicker and easier. Your way would work too.

  • @woodensurfer
    @woodensurfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That particular DeWalt router is best used handheld. It is a waste to mount it under a table. It is also only medium in power. A router used under a table should best be 15 amp.
    Or just mount the base of a fixed-base router, and get an extra base for hand-held use, or just use the motor for other DYI setup.

  • @F1McLarenFan
    @F1McLarenFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video Rob and nice little insert. Do you have plans to make a router lift, accessible from the table top for the 621?

  • @danielelse3914
    @danielelse3914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you consider using a jigsaw blade that cuts on the downstroke?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, I just grabbed my trusty jigsaw and the blades I had on hand. I bet your idea would have worked.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cut a lot of faced boards, melamine, paper, vinyl, painted, whatever. The easiest solution is to run a sharp utility knife right on the cut line, to score or sever the surface finish - pencil into the scratch if you are blind.
      When you cut the material, the surface chips back to the knife's score line.... works 100% perfect every time, better than fussing with jigs and routers.

  • @hanssenden4410
    @hanssenden4410 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rob,
    For the Jigsaw blades are available with the teeth pointing downwards......

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I know but I didn’t have any and I wasn’t going to hold up the project to go get some

  • @williamhoward8319
    @williamhoward8319 ปีที่แล้ว

    bought my baseplate predrilled with my 3 1/4 hp motor

  • @marivera77
    @marivera77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe next time use long Allen set screws coming from bottom, or recessed into the top? Some other way so’s you can level it without lifting the whole thing out 🤔

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that would work, but you only have to level it once and I didn't have allen screws. I super idea though

  • @Original_Old_Farmer
    @Original_Old_Farmer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First let me say I have learned much from your videos, including this one. But, for the cost of the melamine from SawStop, you would have most of the cost of a shaper, the big brother of routing tables, at lower costs. With my shaper I can use the smallest router bits all the way up to 2.5 cutters for moulding. Plus, it has a reversible motor on a cast iron table. So the rhetorical question is why a built in router table when a shaper could slide into place and still give access for big cuts on the table saw? I would say good video, but not the optimum choice for adaptation.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have never had luck with shapers

    • @inspectr1949
      @inspectr1949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shapers simply do not have enough RPM to be used as a router table but for only the largest bits.

    • @Original_Old_Farmer
      @Original_Old_Farmer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Granted shapers may run on the slower side of routers, but whether soft or hard woods, it cuts as clean as my two routers. I'm just saying there is more bang for the buck and as with any good tool will do a good majority of the work expected. I just think folks should be aware of the option, which most people aren't that there is a shaper and it should be considered. If you prefer a router table I hope you have a good one. As for me I usually run the smaller bits that are 1/4 inch shafts. You make a good point.

  • @dariushmilani6760
    @dariushmilani6760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great project Rob. Is it possible to include measurements in mm every now and then for the rest of the world😂👍

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lither dors add metric sometimes but all my tapes are imperial so i cannot convert on the spot

    • @dariushmilani6760
      @dariushmilani6760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking No Problem Rob, I guess rest of the world has to change to imperial🤣😂

  • @barryd.thomassr.9156
    @barryd.thomassr.9156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What Brand is the Drill your Using? it looks like Head is adjustable

  • @paulgreen9979
    @paulgreen9979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rob,
    When are you going to try and reclaim the dovetails record, recently beaten by Matt Eastlea??

  • @thehobbyguy
    @thehobbyguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seen the dust when you were using the rasp.. and I tried blowing my phone screen lol

  • @johnnyallthecash2742
    @johnnyallthecash2742 ปีที่แล้ว

    You were in the 1st special forces group?

  • @pvandeborne
    @pvandeborne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI- Richelieu sells a melamine glue that works wonders on melamine as long as one face is porous and the other can be non porous (melamine face).

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve never heard of that I’ll check it out thanks for the tip

  • @fred5480
    @fred5480 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I had asked this but it doesn't seem to be here. I have a quantity of 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood. Would that be a good substitute for MDF? I am rebuilding an early 60s Rockwell-Beaver saw...all cast iron!

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rob mentioned ply specifically in the video. He prefers MDF because it is more stable.

  • @csimet
    @csimet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unrelated question... what is that dust shroud you have on the miter (chop) saw station?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its a Rousseau. Here is a link www.amazon.com/Rousseau-5000-Solution-Miter-Silver/dp/B00MFGRT06/ref=asc_df_B00MFGRT06/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309802506143&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=97139502359201536&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031340&hvtargid=pla-435711898201&psc=1

  • @meirassis
    @meirassis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hold the jigsaw upside down and the cut will be smooth

  • @Hupernike45
    @Hupernike45 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this what Ray Bourque does in the offseason? Seroiusly, have you ever seen Rob and Ray together? No, you haven't. Eerie...

  • @murphymmc
    @murphymmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorilla polyurethane glue is my least favorite of all glues. It cures to such a hard brittleness that it fails far too consistently for me to even consider. You may want to try Roo Clear melamine glue. It works. I've glued materials it was never rated for, such as vinyl to wood, metal to metal, as a wood glue, acrylic to acrylic. It's far more versatile and effective than polyurethane glues. The company also makes great wood glues, white and yellow. No, I don't work for them, just like their products. My cabinet maker introduced me to the Roo Clear, the rest I discovered from their website.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes I’m not a big fan of gorilla glue either I had never heard of Mela mine glue wish I had known about it previously I would’ve gotten some thanks for the tip

  • @INNYAFACCE
    @INNYAFACCE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do you NOT wear a respirator when using a ROUTER?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because MY priorities are different than yours. If I’m using my router for multiple repetitious work I’ll take the time to grab my respirator. If not, it’s just a nuisance that I avoid. My lungs, my choice.

  • @parall4x
    @parall4x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    couldn’t you just have mounted the router directly to the table w the 4 bolt holes? obviously makes bit changes harder but even at the end mentioned could change the bits right where it is

  • @adgieem1
    @adgieem1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Allow me to suggest an easier way to cut using a jigsaw. Get DOWN cutting blades for jigsaw. It will not damage the top finish as it cuts on the down stroke.

  • @dashriprock5720
    @dashriprock5720 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roo Glue for melamine

  • @michaelmclaughlin4374
    @michaelmclaughlin4374 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you make angled mortise and tenon

  • @fx-hx8cq
    @fx-hx8cq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    D link router best

  • @thernly
    @thernly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice first try, Rob, but there’s NO WAY you’ll be using this setup 5 years from now. The table will sag, fine router adjustments will be a hassle, no dust collection under table or at fence, no place for featherboards. You won’t be happy trying to do reliable, repeatable router cuts using this setup. Just spend the money once on a good router table and quit fretting over this!

  • @DmitriyNEfremov
    @DmitriyNEfremov 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Level screws adjustment was not shown unfortunately:(

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And what use would seeing that be to anybody? You gotta wind the screws until the insert is level with the face of the table. Seeing how somebody else does it won't assist you in the slightest when it comes to levelling your own.

    • @shemondoublejack948
      @shemondoublejack948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johncoops6897 It was not shown how the two screws interact to level the insert plate! First screws were inserted into the opening in the saw table and then another set of screws were screwed in from the top of the insert, but how are the upper and lower screws interacting? Are the adjustments
      made from the top screws or the bottom screws?? We need more explanation on how the system works!

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shemondoublejack948 - they are screws FFS. Surely you don't need somebody to explain how a screw works? Go to a hardware store, buy one and you might understand.
      The screws underneath are holding the wooden cleats. The levelling of the insert is done from the top. There are 6 adjustment screws, not two.
      This is very basic stuff indeed. I can only imagine that you asked the question before watching the video, right? It is impossible to understand why you need to ask the question... it is all shown in the video very clearly.

  • @2112kustoms.
    @2112kustoms. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not just mount it to the table and drill a hole?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because I want to be able to pull out the router change and change router bits and make adjustments without having to unbolt the router to get it out of the table

  • @TheDublin47
    @TheDublin47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It all looks very complicated if you ask me 😢

  • @josephbooth1055
    @josephbooth1055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why dont you just round the corners it actually looks better.

  • @mitchellkantar9282
    @mitchellkantar9282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy the content of your videos, but I really don't need to see every step in real time. It makes the videos way too long, and I end up having to skip forward frequently.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, for every comment like yours I get 10 thanking me for not skipping processes. Guess who wins? Sorry.