For those who don't want to install a purpose made router lift there is an easier way, you still get the precision lift and its so easy too. All I did was install an old scissor lift car jack on the shelf under the router. To raise or lower just turn the crank shaft receptacle by hand. The load is so light compared with a heavy vehicle that you can turn it easily without the crank shaft. Bolt or screw the jack in position and turn the jack slightly offset so it isn't sticking out to your belly button. This method guarantees the router won't move down either so its rock solid in any position. My router always moves back down when I back off on the jack because it is spring loaded plunging model.
Hi. Watch this video only now. You have to work as a teacher. For this was the clearest instructional video I have seen. Excuse the spelling. Many greetings from Sweden.
To adjust my router I removed the adjusting nut. I then heated up a piece of 3/4" pvc about 10" long and pressed it onto the adjustment nut. Let it cool. Thread the nut on the end of the PVC back onto the router. The PVC hangs low enough to twist by hand and I can make micro adjustments from the bottom of the router table. Total cost $1.28. I added a hole to my router table so that the router can be pulled out of the table and set down to change bits. The PVC fits into the hole of the router table.
I know this is 3 years old, but I just followed your video while I installed the RZ100, It was a breeze, I watched you do section, then I followed, done in no time. Thanks for posting!
Thank man, I was just looking to buy a lift and a new router, because this model cant work with a table. This changes everything. Thank you so much. Saved me a lot of cash.
This is a wonderful video. I have the same problem with my router, and after seeing your solution, I may buy those or similar products. But what’s even better is the quality of your video. Kudos to you. Your narration isn’t too lengthy or over bearing like some you tubers; your presentation was excellent and well spoken. In addition, your editing was spot on, with speed ups at the right times. I’ve seen hundreds of videos on TH-cam, and videos with your quality are rare to come by.
It looks good, excellent documentation and video. Two tips: 1) After setting the depth, use the original lock to avoid the depth changing through vibration. Ask how I know..... 2) Enlarge the hole in the acrylic plate to be able to use bigger cutters, same size as the hole in the original baseplate
I've been looking for something like this forever and just learned about this product a few days ago. This saves me from replacing my router table and router to accommodate a router lift. I already ordered mine with a collet extension that should will arrive in a few days, and I'm glad to have found this video to walk me through the set up. Thank you!
Ordered mine from rockler and the the Extreme extender and t-handle wrench from amazon ! the raiser is coming tomorrow , can't wait to install it .Your video was extremely helpful and you made it look very easy .Thank you so much -will post my results after tomorrow's install on my Ryobi 3 1/2 hp plunge router - Fred
I bought the RouterRazor and the Xtender four years ago and installed it with my Freud 2000. I LOVE IT! The balance between the quality, function and price absolutely makes the two tools excellent value. My two gripes are more like adjustments for my use. First the hex socket for the elevating rod faces up on the table. Included is a little rubber plug. If you don't put the plug back in after each adjustment the socket quickly fills with sawdust. Then you can't insert the elevator crank handle in the socket for the next adjustment. The little plug is hard to keep track of. I have shop air at my router table so I automatically give it a puff before I make the next adjustment. Second, when installing or changing a bitt the hex key used to tighten\loosen the bitt in the Xtender is very akward to insert in it's recess, then you can only turn it less than half a turn before your hex key hits the table top. I bought a tee handle ball tip extended hex wrench. Poof, it goes right in, it's off the table and I can turn it easily with ample force. I'm delighted with both these tools and support from Bob the developer was just excellent. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND BOTH THE RAZOR AND THE XTENDER.
It really is a great upgrade but not without a few drawbacks. I've got some improvements on it I'll be making a video about in the near future. Keep an eye out for that if you're interested :) And thanks for watchin'!
Dear Sir, I’ve been looking for exactly this for years. I didn’t want to spend $1,000~$1,250 on a round body router + router lift and your option seems great. The combination of Router Razer, Chuck extension and collet handles comes in way under that at ~$150.00 AUS. Thanks a million.
I have done this modification to a big Porter Cable 2.5 hp plunge router 2 years ago and I am completely satisfied with the result. Works great with the Kreg base I using.
Thank you for the good video. I installed one on a Porter Cable 7539 & Rebel router table. Was fun to do and it works well. HOWEVER, WATCH OUT for the little dust button (Dust cover #31)! Don't leave it on the router table out of its socket. It's about the size of a button battery and can drop easily into the router motor. It happened to me without me knowing it... I noticed it missing and, before turning on the router, scoured the area around the router hoping it would be somewhere other than where I dreaded it might be. Finally took the router apart and fished it out. Now, when I make a height adjustment, it goes into its own receptacle - no matter what...
I have one of these DW625E,its been in a box for years,its too heavy to use comfortably. Tbh,i have bought a Makita DTR50 and routing has become something i look forward too I love your video and if i ever need to use a big router this is the way to go Thank you for sharing 😊
Did it end up fitting your router? Hope so! Also, check out my latest video if an electronic router lift is of any interest to you. Thanks for watchin!
I'm used to larger, corded routers th-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
Great demonstration video, thanks. It's hard to find clear non-show off, clearly shown and explained videos. I have the same model Elu router that I intend to put in my (yet to be made) router table, so that was an added bonus. Just need to get the lifting gear now and I am looking forward to not having to fiddle around under the table. Can't wait.
Right on! This add-on is a game changer, I've been using it regularly since publishing the video and it's been working like a dream. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@42Pursuit Glad to hear that, but you honestly will never appreciate just how much you helped me by posting this video. It's been such a great router and still is, they just don't make them like that anymore, and now i won't moan about using it in my table. Thanks again.
Hmm, now that I think about it, I'm not honestly sure. I haven't had a need to adjust it since I put it together. I suppose it could be used as a height stop, but aside from making it slightly easier to assemble the thumbscrew by holding the shaft compressed, it's been pretty much set-and-forget.
Get yourself a “ER20 Router Collet Extension Chuck” and a set of ER20 spring collets. Not only you extend the length of the shaft, you can clamp any diameter router or CNC bit you can find on the market. You can also tighten the collet chuck with two wrenches from the top. Clamping router bits with set screws that dig into the shank is a bad idea, but I will let you discover why on your own.
At the time of posting the video there weren't any ER20 extensions that had consistently high reviews so I didn't want to recommend something that was potentially garbage to the viewers. The Xtreme Xtension is highly rated, well made, extremely well balanced, and the set screw doesn't dig into the shank as there is a machined piece between the end of the set screw and the shank that has the same curvature as the shank and distributes the pressure so it's physically not possible to overtighten enough to damage a router bit shank.
Thanks for posting such an indepth video on how easy their system is to install. Found one on Amazon for $231.00 but will keep looking and You might think of sending this to their company as a How To for their viewers....
Amazon seems to be in and out of stock lately for a reasonable price. Check Rockler.com if you're in the states. They usually have them for $110. That's a great idea, I'll hit them up! 👍
Great video, which caused me to decide that I want to buy this. The only problem, is that I need the RZ200 model, and nobody sells it online any more. They also haven't updated their website in a long time, and Amazon reviews suggest that they've pretty much no staff to handle customer service. Such a wonderful product, it's aggravating to see the idea go to waste like it has.
Very nicely done video in clearly walking us through the assembly steps and your ideas for improved assembly. I had earlier read through the instructions with the many parts needed for each step and I was concerned about making a mistake during the assembly process. I stepped through your video on my iPad as I went through the assembly process and it made it so much easier. My kit didn't come with item #46, the locating pin so I ended up using the template instead.
You have given the Elu a brilliant a new lease of life. That and the Dewalt, and trend model also the Fein model are the best plunge routers. There is hardly any play on the pillars if any. The best is the festool of2200, for play and locking of. Plus there is more than one bearing taking the strain of the cut. The dust extraction is the best. But with the Elu model use the dust collector under the table as well as above. That really catches the dust. Get a splitter for the dust hose. Don't worry about the opening in the dust cover being 50mm. That is the biggest sizefor this router. Do not go bigger. The bearing cannot take it.
Totally! They're incredible routers! That's why I wanted to keep it instead of swapping it out with a different router and more typical lift. So glad I did this upgrade.
I have one of these that I installed on my old Hitachi M12v years ago. It works very well. Threre are more expensive ones out there, but they don't do much more than raise the router and don't work with as many routers as the Router Raizer does.
Very informative! I've only recently started doing routing on a table, previously used it on A Triton Work Centre. One question: does it come with instructions for a Makita 3600BR router please? I agree, areal pain changing without a lifter. Cheers! John
Hmm, not sure. Take a look through the list of compatible routers on www.routertechnologies.com and if you don't find the one you're looking for, maybe shoot them an email.
On the threaded adjuster bar it has a quick release so you don’t have to turn the nut Simply push the button in and it just slides up to the top then just release and it’s locked in place
In theory, yes, but in practice that quick release never has worked well on mine. Others may have better luck with theirs. Having height adjustment from the top really is a game-changer though. Would recommend 👍
@@42Pursuit just got the trend router table And set it all up And am using the dewalt router Tried the quick release but see what you mean Quite heavy to try and lift to the correct height But this seems quite long winded Saw another one where he had a small jack underneath from Amazon with a little ratchet to adjust it up and down
I’ve seen examples of DIY solutions very similar to this. However, they ALL seem to modify the router. In some cases functionality was compromised. Q: can the router, after Router Raider installation, be removed from the table and used in handheld mode? And does it retain full functionality?
Full functionality is maintained and it can definitely still be used as a hand-held plunge-base router. You can see starting around 8:12 that it still acts like a regular plunge base router, just with the ability to turn a knob to precisely adjust the router down towards the faceplate.
Great vid. Am looking to adapt this concept to my Ryobi Re180PL Not seeing a listing for my router so I'll try and reach out to this company to get there input. Like the T-rule, gonna chk that out as well. Thanks for the tips
Remember that a ⅜-16 steel rod gives you 1/16"with each full turn (and 1/32 each half, 1/64 each quarter turn.) So making a fine adjustment router under your table is easy with some simple tinkering. Personally, I didnt like the weakness of the router raizer's main turn rod. My router is HEAVY so I needed to go beefier. I'm happy with the video though... that's how you show a product and assembly right there!!! :)
@@42Pursuit I've made a bunch... still not happy. You know what you should build/buy? The Pantorouter. It was a concept by Mathias Wendel. I have a handmade one, and it is amazing. You can buy fancy versions now from extruded and machined aluminum, but they cost a bit ... a large bit lol. These are so fun to work with! (And you can tweak the handmade wooden version a bit as well by mixing co concepts from the handmade, and machine versions. A hybrid Pantorouter. I just love making tools. I get carried away, my apologies lol.
@@carterscustomrods Man, I've been thinking about it, those pantorouters are sweet! I want to build one but those extruded aluminum ones look so good too. We'll see. Maybe a winter project.
Hi, do you know if the Router Raizer can be used on the Elu OF97E router? I believe the equivalent of the Elu is the Dewalt DW621 however, the top layout is slightly different. Thank in advance for your / anyone’s help. Martin
I believe rockler.com ships internationally. There's a link to the router raizer listing on their website in the video description. Or go to the router raizer website at www.routertechnologies.com and see if they have local distributors.
Those two sizes of collets for the router are pretty standard. And if you decide to go the extension route, there's an insert that allows 0.25" bits to be used as well as 0.5" ones.
I have a Porter cable 7529 from 2001. Will this perk on that? Also, I’m missing something. It doesn’t seem as though you’d need to remove the plate to install this. Can’t the threaded rod just slide from top opening into plate, then instal sleeve?
Looks like the RZ-100 kit will fit your router according to the manufacture: www.routertechnologies.com/fitpage.htm Although you should double-check that yourself. You maybe technically could do it that way, but I think it would be a much bigger hassle than the way the instructions advise.
Great video! Didn't know those products existed. I like the quick bit change feature, but do you feel comfortable with a set screw holding that router bit in place at such high speeds? Feels like there is some sketch factor there that makes me question the extension safety.
I had that thought too when I first ordered it but after looking at it with that thought in mind I really don't think it'll be an issue. The machining is very precisely and you can feel how close of an interference fit it is when you slide a 1/2" bit in. The locking mechanism doesn't compress like a traditional collet and my guess is that even if the set screw wasn't tightened, everything is so concentric that the bit wouldn't violently wobble out like it would on a loose collet. They also have machined out a small bit of material on the opposite side of the set screw to maintain a perfect balance.
A cheap and simple option is to just station a normal car jack underneath the router. The router sits atop it and you can very easily and accurately adjust the height, then engage the plunge lock when you have the correct height. I've used it that way for many years.
I initially thought the same thing, but as the air intake for the router is located on the bottom of the unit and I didn't want to cover that up at all. The Router Raizer add-on is a bit more streamlined, and for me was worth the cost.
I didn't know I could buy that part for the unge router so cheaply bro.. Thanks very much for the help and information.. It's very much appreciated BTW.. I only bought me a cheap router the other day. I ain't gonna lie man. THEY'RE MESSY AS FOOK. LMAO.. I love that I can put this router and build it into the table saw I'll be building in a few weeks or my workshop.. Thanks again man.. U do great work. I bet u just dug a helluva lotta people out of a hole with this brilliant video..
Awesome! Glad you found the video helpful! Yeah, routers sure can make a mess 😄 A router in the wing of a table saw is clutch! Best of luck on your build!
I installed one easily with a Hitachi router. The drilling of the table is a bit nerve wracking, measure three times, drill once. My only issue in not putting the magnetic plug back in the table top. The little hole for the handle filled with wood dust! So remember.
Hmm, it doesn't say on their website. You'd probably need to reach out to www.routertechnologies.com/ and ask if that newer model of the 625 is compatible. Let me know what they say!
They make a height adjuster for dewalt which you can extend. You should have bought the Trend T9 with built in height adjustment. Same router as Dewalt!
Following the Amazon link it appears that Rockler bought the company or at least the product. It's no longer available on AMZ so you have to get it from Rockler, for a bit more money than what the original manufacturer sold it for.
Thanks for the heads up! I think they may just be temporarily out of stock on Amazon but I added the Rockler link to the description as well. Thanks for watchin!
WD40 is NOT a lubricant. It is a water displacement fluid and its lubricating properties are a temporary condition caused by the dissolving components. You can clean it with WD40, wipe it down and then use a proper lubricant like good old fashion grease.
@@pablomax3045 WD-40 is a name of a company producing several types of lube. Gotcha, I found the WD-40 Specialist High Performance Dry Lube PTFE which is the right one for this, the old fashioned sticky grease is messy.
nice vid - also considering getting the router raizer. Tell me - with the Raizer installed - can you still used the plunge action when handheld? or do you need to screw the bits down with the handle?
Yes, you can still use the plunge action, all you need to do is loosen the rapid collar thumb screw. Also, to get the full plunge distance, the leadscrew needs to be threaded most of the way into the drive nut.
Well this is second time I see this you know how much you saved I look the router lift today one is a 1000 English pounds which is nice but the price is not that nice and look how much you spend may be under 200 dollars and works I have dewalt 625 which is powerful router for hard wood thanks my brain they going to different level know because of my friend thanks again I say hello from London but my work shop hopefully is going to be in Colombia 🇨🇴 👌👌👍
Thank you for this video. I have a question in regards to the instruction guide that comes with his product. It references utilizing this product with the porter cable 8529 model, which in my opinion already has the ability to raise the product from a router table situation. Does this product add any versatility to the functionality of the 8529, and if so what is that additional functionality? Thank you
I'm not familiar with the 8529 but from a quick search it looks like it's adjustable, but maybe not from the top of the table if it's mounted in a router table configuration? If that's true, than all it would add is the convenience of adjusting the height quickly from above the table.
I thought the same thing at first, but realized that for my router the top flat part of the jack would push against the air intake for the router. It probably wouldn't cause it to overheat or damage the case there, but I didn't want to risk it. And true, you could move it out of the way after setting the height, but for me the Router Raizer just seemed like the elegant solution.
The road a bit holder is not a good idea it doesn’t have a double lock system. If you notice when you’re opening up your router shaft you think it’s open and then you have to open it the more it’s because it’s a double lock system
Hi, Thanks, really nice video. I have three question. Can I use this kit for my DW 626? Is this kit applicable without extension? Has the extension set approval from manufacturer?
Thanks! I'm pretty sure you can use it for that router, I believe it's mechanically very close to the DW625 which is a compatible router. Double check on their site though and shoot them a message if you can't find it there: www.routertechnologies.com. I think the lift kit is fine without the extension, but the bit changes would have to be done from the underside of the table which is slightly less convenient. The extension is listed on the same site as the router raizer, so I assume they're from the same parent company and are made to work in tandem.
Your illustration installation video was OK. Yes, I bought the Router Raizer for my Hitachi TR12 but had to refer back to your video because American instructions, are too extreme leading to confusion compared to say Chinese were either too little or none and if you're lucky in English. One comment, it seems in the woodworking field the Xtreme Xtension is favoured. Where in fact it has a worse router bit clamping mechanism than your original collet bit clamper. I"m a retired Engineer and I liked the idea of a router bit extender however I purchased a Yakamoz 1/2 Inch Shank Router Collet Extension plus Yakamoz 2Pcs ER16 ER20 M Type Collet Chuck Wrench from Amazon. Works on the same principle as my milling collet chucks, has a 360 degree clamping force instead of the single or 2 point with the Xtreme Xtension and at 1/5 the price.
For those who don't want to install a purpose made router lift there is an easier way, you still get the precision lift and its so easy too. All I did was install an old scissor lift car jack on the shelf under the router. To raise or lower just turn the crank shaft receptacle by hand. The load is so light compared with a heavy vehicle that you can turn it easily without the crank shaft. Bolt or screw the jack in position and turn the jack slightly offset so it isn't sticking out to your belly button. This method guarantees the router won't move down either so its rock solid in any position. My router always moves back down when I back off on the jack because it is spring loaded plunging model.
This sounds like a GREAT idea. Any pictures or video?
Also used a car jack for my home made saw table.Works good,but saw dust needs a regular clean out.
Hi. Watch this video only now. You have to work as a teacher. For this was the clearest instructional video I have seen. Excuse the spelling. Many greetings from Sweden.
Wow, thank you so much for your kind words! Your comment is super encouraging!
To adjust my router I removed the adjusting nut. I then heated up a piece of 3/4" pvc about 10" long and pressed it onto the adjustment nut. Let it cool. Thread the nut on the end of the PVC back onto the router. The PVC hangs low enough to twist by hand and I can make micro adjustments from the bottom of the router table. Total cost $1.28. I added a hole to my router table so that the router can be pulled out of the table and set down to change bits. The PVC fits into the hole of the router table.
I know this is 3 years old, but I just followed your video while I installed the RZ100, It was a breeze, I watched you do section, then I followed, done in no time. Thanks for posting!
Awesome! I'm glad it helped!
Thank man, I was just looking to buy a lift and a new router, because this model cant work with a table. This changes everything. Thank you so much. Saved me a lot of cash.
That's awesome! I'm glad this video was helpful for ya! :)
This is a wonderful video. I have the same problem with my router, and after seeing your solution, I may buy those or similar products. But what’s even better is the quality of your video. Kudos to you. Your narration isn’t too lengthy or over bearing like some you tubers; your presentation was excellent and well spoken. In addition, your editing was spot on, with speed ups at the right times. I’ve seen hundreds of videos on TH-cam, and videos with your quality are rare to come by.
Thanks so much! That's what I'm aiming for as I appreciate videos that are straight and to the point myself. Thanks for watchin!
It looks good, excellent documentation and video.
Two tips:
1) After setting the depth, use the original lock to avoid the depth changing through vibration. Ask how I know.....
2) Enlarge the hole in the acrylic plate to be able to use bigger cutters, same size as the hole in the original baseplate
How did you find out you needed to use the lock?
I've been looking for something like this forever and just learned about this product a few days ago. This saves me from replacing my router table and router to accommodate a router lift. I already ordered mine with a collet extension that should will arrive in a few days, and I'm glad to have found this video to walk me through the set up. Thank you!
Glad you found this video helpful!
Ordered mine from rockler and the the Extreme extender and t-handle wrench from amazon ! the raiser is coming tomorrow , can't wait to install it .Your video was extremely helpful and you made it look very easy .Thank you so much -will post my results after tomorrow's install on my Ryobi 3 1/2 hp plunge router - Fred
As other viewers have commented, that was VERY well done. Thanks for posting.
I bought the RouterRazor and the Xtender four years ago and installed it with my Freud 2000. I LOVE IT! The balance between the quality, function and price absolutely makes the two tools excellent value. My two gripes are more like adjustments for my use. First the hex socket for the elevating rod faces up on the table. Included is a little rubber plug. If you don't put the plug back in after each adjustment the socket quickly fills with sawdust. Then you can't insert the elevator crank handle in the socket for the next adjustment. The little plug is hard to keep track of. I have shop air at my router table so I automatically give it a puff before I make the next adjustment. Second, when installing or changing a bitt the hex key used to tighten\loosen the bitt in the Xtender is very akward to insert in it's recess, then you can only turn it less than half a turn before your hex key hits the table top. I bought a tee handle ball tip extended hex wrench. Poof, it goes right in, it's off the table and I can turn it easily with ample force. I'm delighted with both these tools and support from Bob the developer was just excellent. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND BOTH THE RAZOR AND THE XTENDER.
It really is a great upgrade but not without a few drawbacks. I've got some improvements on it I'll be making a video about in the near future. Keep an eye out for that if you're interested :)
And thanks for watchin'!
Dear Sir, I’ve been looking for exactly this for years. I didn’t want to spend $1,000~$1,250 on a round body router + router lift and your option seems great. The combination of Router Razer, Chuck extension and collet handles comes in way under that at ~$150.00 AUS. Thanks a million.
Awesome! Glad to hear you found the video useful 👍🏼
I have done this modification to a big Porter Cable 2.5 hp plunge router 2 years ago and I am completely satisfied with the result. Works great with the Kreg base I using.
Thank you for the good video. I installed one on a Porter Cable 7539 & Rebel router table. Was fun to do and it works well. HOWEVER, WATCH OUT for the little dust button (Dust cover #31)! Don't leave it on the router table out of its socket. It's about the size of a button battery and can drop easily into the router motor. It happened to me without me knowing it... I noticed it missing and, before turning on the router, scoured the area around the router hoping it would be somewhere other than where I dreaded it might be. Finally took the router apart and fished it out. Now, when I make a height adjustment, it goes into its own receptacle - no matter what...
I have one of these DW625E,its been in a box for years,its too heavy to use comfortably.
Tbh,i have bought a Makita DTR50 and routing has become something i look forward too
I love your video and if i ever need to use a big router this is the way to go
Thank you for sharing 😊
I wondered if you needed this springs both before and after.
That right there in my eyes is the Rolls Royce of routers. Loved using mine, gave me many many years of service before it died.
I agree! Such a solid router. Didn't know how good it was when I bought it used but so extra glad to have it now.
I am going to be so happy if this kit fits my router. I am going to go to my shop in the morning to check model numbers for compatibility.
Did it end up fitting your router? Hope so!
Also, check out my latest video if an electronic router lift is of any interest to you.
Thanks for watchin!
I'm used to larger, corded routers th-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
Great demonstration video, thanks. It's hard to find clear non-show off, clearly shown and explained videos. I have the same model Elu router that I intend to put in my (yet to be made) router table, so that was an added bonus. Just need to get the lifting gear now and I am looking forward to not having to fiddle around under the table. Can't wait.
Glad you found the video helpful!
Brilliant i was wondering how or if I could get a router razer
OMG! You are fantastic! I have a ELU MOF177E, served me well for decades! But you just solved my decades old problem, Thank you!
Right on! This add-on is a game changer, I've been using it regularly since publishing the video and it's been working like a dream. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@42Pursuit
Glad to hear that, but you honestly will never appreciate just how much you helped me by posting this video.
It's been such a great router and still is, they just don't make them like that anymore, and now i won't moan about using it in my table.
Thanks again.
Question: what is the Rapid Collar (#22) used for. Why would I need to tighten or loosen it?
Great video. I have the same Elu. Thanks so much.
Hmm, now that I think about it, I'm not honestly sure. I haven't had a need to adjust it since I put it together. I suppose it could be used as a height stop, but aside from making it slightly easier to assemble the thumbscrew by holding the shaft compressed, it's been pretty much set-and-forget.
Get yourself a “ER20 Router Collet Extension Chuck” and a set of ER20 spring collets.
Not only you extend the length of the shaft, you can clamp any diameter router or CNC bit you can find on the market.
You can also tighten the collet chuck with two wrenches from the top.
Clamping router bits with set screws that dig into the shank is a bad idea, but I will let you discover why on your own.
At the time of posting the video there weren't any ER20 extensions that had consistently high reviews so I didn't want to recommend something that was potentially garbage to the viewers. The Xtreme Xtension is highly rated, well made, extremely well balanced, and the set screw doesn't dig into the shank as there is a machined piece between the end of the set screw and the shank that has the same curvature as the shank and distributes the pressure so it's physically not possible to overtighten enough to damage a router bit shank.
Thanks for posting such an indepth video on how easy their system is to install. Found one on Amazon for $231.00 but will keep looking and You might think of sending this to their company as a How To for their viewers....
Amazon seems to be in and out of stock lately for a reasonable price. Check Rockler.com if you're in the states. They usually have them for $110.
That's a great idea, I'll hit them up! 👍
I really liked the excellent step by step you did. You really should have been paid to do your review.
Great video, which caused me to decide that I want to buy this. The only problem, is that I need the RZ200 model, and nobody sells it online any more. They also haven't updated their website in a long time, and Amazon reviews suggest that they've pretty much no staff to handle customer service. Such a wonderful product, it's aggravating to see the idea go to waste like it has.
Ya, real 'blast from the past' going to their website lol
THANK YOU for taking the time to make this video,as it is MOST IMFORMATIVE and will be helpful in my future works
INFORMATIVE INFORMATIVE
Thank you kindly! Glad you found it helpful!
Great video, liked the way you laid everything out and gave a straight to the point explanation 👍
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful!
This was the perfect video to let me know I could make serious use of this product... Really well done!
Awesome! Thanks! Glad you got some value out of it.
Very nicely done video in clearly walking us through the assembly steps and your ideas for improved assembly. I had earlier read through the instructions with the many parts needed for each step and I was concerned about making a mistake during the assembly process. I stepped through your video on my iPad as I went through the assembly process and it made it so much easier. My kit didn't come with item #46, the locating pin so I ended up using the template instead.
I'm so glad you found the video helpful!
WOW! It's very rare to see a parts diagram with full size drawings - I wish many more manufacturers did that!
Totally! So helpful in the assembly process!
Well done. That price is nice too. Love seeing something assembled. I have a miserable time with printed instructions. Thanks I'll look into this.
Totally! I wish every company would do video instructions as well as printed. Thanks for watchin!
You have given the Elu a brilliant a new lease of life. That and the Dewalt, and trend model also the Fein model are the best plunge routers. There is hardly any play on the pillars if any. The best is the festool of2200, for play and locking of. Plus there is more than one bearing taking the strain of the cut. The dust extraction is the best. But with the Elu model use the dust collector under the table as well as above. That really catches the dust. Get a splitter for the dust hose. Don't worry about the opening in the dust cover being 50mm. That is the biggest sizefor this router. Do not go bigger. The bearing cannot take it.
Totally! They're incredible routers! That's why I wanted to keep it instead of swapping it out with a different router and more typical lift. So glad I did this upgrade.
Does it lock in the height adjustment?
Very well done. A concise but thorough explanation and demonstration of what looks to be a very useful product.
Thank you.
Thanks for your kind comment! I'm glad you found the video helpful.
Thanks for sharing this information ,, only question ,,, does the kit fit any router ? one size fits all ?
It fits most plunge-base routers. Check their website for the list of compatible routers 👍
Thank you for the instructions. I have Deealt dw625e router. Do you think kit will work for my router as well.
Yes, I believe that's the same as the one in the video. Dewalt bought ELU routers shortly after but kept the same design for that model.
Great step-by-step instruction. Thanks. Enjoyed it.
Glad it was helpful!
Jessem also sells a router lift for plunge routers.
Yeah, they're pretty spendy though at $390.
I have one of these that I installed on my old Hitachi M12v years ago. It works very well. Threre are more expensive ones out there, but they don't do much more than raise the router and don't work with as many routers as the Router Raizer does.
Absolutely! I wasn't sure what quality and operation to expected before ordering it, but I'm quite happy with it.
Did you do a video of the further upgrade you did to make it a motorized height adjustment?
Still working on it, ran into a code issue. Hopefully have it up and running soon!
Very informative! I've only recently started doing routing on a table, previously used it on A Triton Work Centre. One question: does it come with instructions for a Makita 3600BR router please? I agree, areal pain changing without a lifter. Cheers! John
Hmm, not sure. Take a look through the list of compatible routers on www.routertechnologies.com and if you don't find the one you're looking for, maybe shoot them an email.
On the threaded adjuster bar it has a quick release so you don’t have to turn the nut
Simply push the button in and it just slides up to the top then just release and it’s locked in place
In theory, yes, but in practice that quick release never has worked well on mine. Others may have better luck with theirs. Having height adjustment from the top really is a game-changer though. Would recommend 👍
@@42Pursuit just got the trend router table
And set it all up
And am using the dewalt router
Tried the quick release but see what you mean
Quite heavy to try and lift to the correct height
But this seems quite long winded
Saw another one where he had a small jack underneath from Amazon with a little ratchet to adjust it up and down
I’ve seen examples of DIY solutions very similar to this. However, they ALL seem to modify the router. In some cases functionality was compromised.
Q: can the router, after Router Raider installation, be removed from the table and used in handheld mode? And does it retain full functionality?
Full functionality is maintained and it can definitely still be used as a hand-held plunge-base router. You can see starting around 8:12 that it still acts like a regular plunge base router, just with the ability to turn a knob to precisely adjust the router down towards the faceplate.
Great vid. Am looking to adapt this concept to my Ryobi Re180PL Not seeing a listing for my router so I'll try and reach out to this company to get there input.
Like the T-rule, gonna chk that out as well. Thanks for the tips
Do you know if they make this kit for Porter Cable?
You'd have to check their website which has a list of compatible routers
Thank you so much for posted this video. What a life (time) saver. I have a rebel router table and this is the only lift that will work. ❤️
Awesome! Glad it helped!
Remember that a ⅜-16 steel rod gives you 1/16"with each full turn (and 1/32 each half, 1/64 each quarter turn.) So making a fine adjustment router under your table is easy with some simple tinkering.
Personally, I didnt like the weakness of the router raizer's main turn rod. My router is HEAVY so I needed to go beefier.
I'm happy with the video though... that's how you show a product and assembly right there!!! :)
Totally! I had the same thought since making that video and plan to make a diy one in the future.
Thanks for watchin!
@@42Pursuit I've made a bunch... still not happy.
You know what you should build/buy? The Pantorouter. It was a concept by Mathias Wendel. I have a handmade one, and it is amazing. You can buy fancy versions now from extruded and machined aluminum, but they cost a bit ... a large bit lol.
These are so fun to work with! (And you can tweak the handmade wooden version a bit as well by mixing co concepts from the handmade, and machine versions. A hybrid Pantorouter.
I just love making tools. I get carried away, my apologies lol.
@@carterscustomrods Man, I've been thinking about it, those pantorouters are sweet! I want to build one but those extruded aluminum ones look so good too. We'll see. Maybe a winter project.
@@42Pursuit well I look forward to watching the videos for it. :)
I've had 2 Router Raizers on 2 DeWalt 625s for ten or so years and have never had a hint of a problem with either.
Hi, do you know if the Router Raizer can be used on the Elu OF97E router? I believe the equivalent of the Elu is the Dewalt DW621 however, the top layout is slightly different. Thank in advance for your / anyone’s help. Martin
I'm not sure but I'd hit up the guys over at www.routertechnologies.com and I bet they'd be able to tell you. Best of luck!
Cant find anywhere in the UK that stocks this. Unavailable on Amazon. Any suggestions?
I believe rockler.com ships internationally. There's a link to the router raizer listing on their website in the video description.
Or go to the router raizer website at www.routertechnologies.com and see if they have local distributors.
Thank you for this video. I have an older Ryobi and it is listed as one of the routers it fits. Perfectly done and very well explained.
Awesome! Glad it was helpful for you!
I have both 0.5 and 0.25 bits. How is that accommodated?
Those two sizes of collets for the router are pretty standard. And if you decide to go the extension route, there's an insert that allows 0.25" bits to be used as well as 0.5" ones.
Hard to imagine that routers could ever be that simple to use! lol. Cheers!
No kidding! I wish that piece came standard with all plunge routers. So handy!
Now l know how they put a extension bit and rising fine adustment.
Can we get a link for that ruler you used to measure the height of the bit at the end? That sure is nice.
You bet! amzn.to/2MS8n38 I quite like it.
@@42Pursuit thanks!
I have a Porter cable 7529 from 2001. Will this perk on that?
Also, I’m missing something. It doesn’t seem as though you’d need to remove the plate to install this. Can’t the threaded rod just slide from top opening into plate, then instal sleeve?
Looks like the RZ-100 kit will fit your router according to the manufacture: www.routertechnologies.com/fitpage.htm Although you should double-check that yourself.
You maybe technically could do it that way, but I think it would be a much bigger hassle than the way the instructions advise.
Great video! Didn't know those products existed. I like the quick bit change feature, but do you feel comfortable with a set screw holding that router bit in place at such high speeds? Feels like there is some sketch factor there that makes me question the extension safety.
I had that thought too when I first ordered it but after looking at it with that thought in mind I really don't think it'll be an issue. The machining is very precisely and you can feel how close of an interference fit it is when you slide a 1/2" bit in. The locking mechanism doesn't compress like a traditional collet and my guess is that even if the set screw wasn't tightened, everything is so concentric that the bit wouldn't violently wobble out like it would on a loose collet. They also have machined out a small bit of material on the opposite side of the set screw to maintain a perfect balance.
But what if you a 1/4 router like the hitachi M8?
Unfortunately there aren't a lot of options of router lifts designed for those smaller routers.
A cheap and simple option is to just station a normal car jack underneath the router. The router sits atop it and you can very easily and accurately adjust the height, then engage the plunge lock when you have the correct height. I've used it that way for many years.
I initially thought the same thing, but as the air intake for the router is located on the bottom of the unit and I didn't want to cover that up at all. The Router Raizer add-on is a bit more streamlined, and for me was worth the cost.
Great video. My Triton router just ran a bearing so I'm going to adapt my AEG router with a top lift.
I didn't know I could buy that part for the unge router so cheaply bro.. Thanks very much for the help and information.. It's very much appreciated BTW..
I only bought me a cheap router the other day. I ain't gonna lie man. THEY'RE MESSY AS FOOK. LMAO..
I love that I can put this router and build it into the table saw I'll be building in a few weeks or my workshop.. Thanks again man.. U do great work. I bet u just dug a helluva lotta people out of a hole with this brilliant video..
Awesome! Glad you found the video helpful!
Yeah, routers sure can make a mess 😄
A router in the wing of a table saw is clutch! Best of luck on your build!
That is so cool. Glad this came up in my feed.
Awesome! Glad you liked it!
Thank you very much for this super helful video. Love the way you do the edit!
You're very welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
I installed one easily with a Hitachi router. The drilling of the table is a bit nerve wracking, measure three times, drill once. My only issue in not putting the magnetic plug back in the table top. The little hole for the handle filled with wood dust! So remember.
True that. I'm glad they supply a few extra covers since I accidentally vacuumed up the first one. Whoops!
Will this work with the dewalt E625?
Hmm, it doesn't say on their website. You'd probably need to reach out to www.routertechnologies.com/ and ask if that newer model of the 625 is compatible. Let me know what they say!
Excellent informative video; have the same questions as you had so now going to look into the Router Raizer option. Many thanks indeed.
Awesome! Glad you found the video useful!
So your router has been to Billings? is that where you are at?
Hah, good eye. No, must've been from the guy I bought it from.
They make a height adjuster for dewalt which you can extend. You should have bought the Trend T9 with built in height adjustment. Same router as Dewalt!
Interesting, I'll have to check it out!
Would be very keen to know if this system is compatible with Bosch GOF 900A
Any chance you can point me to the agents?
Hmm, I'm not sure and didn't find mention of it on their site. I'd try contacting them directly and see what they say. www.routertechnologies.com
@@42Pursuit not to worry, I tried their site, their contact us form does not work, ended up picking up a Triton.
:)
Hi is this compatible with a UK dewalt 618 router as we are metric and you are imperial
I would guess yes, but I'd contact the folks over at www.routertechnologies.com just to be sure. Thanks for watchin!
Following the Amazon link it appears that Rockler bought the company or at least the product. It's no longer available on AMZ so you have to get it from Rockler, for a bit more money than what the original manufacturer sold it for.
Thanks for the heads up! I think they may just be temporarily out of stock on Amazon but I added the Rockler link to the description as well. Thanks for watchin!
Awesome. I have a Dewalt 625E so will be looking to purchase a kit and extension. Very detailed instructions too. Thank you for this
I have the same router too. But I am not sure if it will fit to the 625e model. Were you able to install it?
Thanks for the review, I have a Dewalt 625, I might have to get both accessories for it!
Do it! I've been super glad I did the upgrades. Thanks for watching!
You can also buy plunge bars from Woodrat to speed the height adjustment.
Excellent video, thank you for taking the time to make it
Awesome! Glad you found it valuable. Thanks for watchin!
Can I use WD40 multi-purpose lubricant instead of dry teflon grease?
You bet! Any lubricant will do. I just had that dry teflon spray handy so that's what I used.
WD40 is NOT a lubricant. It is a water displacement fluid and its lubricating properties are a temporary condition caused by the dissolving components.
You can clean it with WD40, wipe it down and then use a proper lubricant like good old fashion grease.
@@pablomax3045 WD-40 is a name of a company producing several types of lube. Gotcha, I found the WD-40 Specialist High Performance Dry Lube PTFE which is the right one for this, the old fashioned sticky grease is messy.
How you calling this tool? 12:35
Xtreme Xtension: amzn.to/30BGDmr
I want to know where you got the extreme extension for $23.55?! That thing has been $65 forever
Ah, you are correct, I misspoke. I just checked and see that I paid around $65 for it. Not sure where I got that $23.55 number...
Well this helped me out a lot.
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
I think the dewalt router is the same as the elu. I thought elu took over elu??
I think that router is the same too, just with different coloring. I was under the impression that Dewalt bought ELU but I might be wrong.
You can bet id chuck up a hex bit in the power driver for that action. Nobody got no time for cranking
nice vid - also considering getting the router raizer. Tell me - with the Raizer installed - can you still used the plunge action when handheld? or do you need to screw the bits down with the handle?
Yes, you can still use the plunge action, all you need to do is loosen the rapid collar thumb screw. Also, to get the full plunge distance, the leadscrew needs to be threaded most of the way into the drive nut.
Excellent tutorial
Thanks! I hope you found it helpful!
Glad I subbed cus this is on my list of things to do (eventually) 😅
Well this is second time I see this you know how much you saved I look the router lift today one is a 1000 English pounds which is nice but the price is not that nice and look how much you spend may be under 200 dollars and works I have dewalt 625 which is powerful router for hard wood thanks my brain they going to different level know because of my friend thanks again I say hello from London but my work shop hopefully is going to be in Colombia 🇨🇴 👌👌👍
Thank you for this video. I have a question in regards to the instruction guide that comes with his product. It references utilizing this product with the porter cable 8529 model, which in my opinion already has the ability to raise the product from a router table situation. Does this product add any versatility to the functionality of the 8529, and if so what is that additional functionality? Thank you
I'm not familiar with the 8529 but from a quick search it looks like it's adjustable, but maybe not from the top of the table if it's mounted in a router table configuration? If that's true, than all it would add is the convenience of adjusting the height quickly from above the table.
No lock?
The depth stop lock on the router still works 👍🏼
What an Excellent presentation.
Thank you
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
Thumbs up I just installed my router raiser today for my plunge router works great after tweaking it
Great to hear! Just out of curiosity, what tweaks were needed?
Great video.
You could also use a science jack stand, it would be a lot cheaper, it would be like a router lift.
I thought the same thing at first, but realized that for my router the top flat part of the jack would push against the air intake for the router. It probably wouldn't cause it to overheat or damage the case there, but I didn't want to risk it. And true, you could move it out of the way after setting the height, but for me the Router Raizer just seemed like the elegant solution.
The road a bit holder is not a good idea it doesn’t have a double lock system. If you notice when you’re opening up your router shaft you think it’s open and then you have to open it the more it’s because it’s a double lock system
Now just need a stepper motor with an up down switch, but great video thanks
Funny you should mention that... keep an eye out for a new video along those lines in the next few weeks 😉
That extreme extender is now $78! It's only been 9 months since the release of this video.
Ah, I misspoke in the video. I just checked and see that I paid around $65 for it. Not sure where I got that $23.55 number...
@@42Pursuit I was thinking that those prices had gone up as well as EVERYTHING else in the world.lol
Excellent video and process. Thank you so much for sharing...
Glad it was helpful, and thanks for your kind comment! Cheers!
Hi, Thanks, really nice video. I have three question. Can I use this kit for my DW 626? Is this kit applicable without extension? Has the extension set approval from manufacturer?
Thanks! I'm pretty sure you can use it for that router, I believe it's mechanically very close to the DW625 which is a compatible router. Double check on their site though and shoot them a message if you can't find it there: www.routertechnologies.com.
I think the lift kit is fine without the extension, but the bit changes would have to be done from the underside of the table which is slightly less convenient.
The extension is listed on the same site as the router raizer, so I assume they're from the same parent company and are made to work in tandem.
great video. thanks for the step by step install help.
Glad you found it helpful!
Holy shit my dude, extremely helpful
Awesome! Glad to hear it!
Your illustration installation video was OK. Yes, I bought the Router Raizer for my Hitachi TR12 but had to refer back to your video because American instructions, are too extreme leading to confusion compared to say Chinese were either too little or none and if you're lucky in English.
One comment, it seems in the woodworking field the Xtreme Xtension is favoured. Where in fact it has a worse router bit clamping mechanism than your original collet bit clamper. I"m a retired Engineer and I liked the idea of a router bit extender however I purchased a Yakamoz 1/2 Inch Shank Router Collet Extension plus Yakamoz 2Pcs ER16 ER20 M Type Collet Chuck Wrench from Amazon. Works on the same principle as my milling collet chucks, has a 360 degree clamping force instead of the single or 2 point with the Xtreme Xtension and at 1/5 the price.
Thanks for your thoughts and feedback! I'll definitely look into the collet chuck extension, that sounds like a good option for sure.