JHope's situation and Jimin's are totally different. Hobbie was experimenting, and you can tell he wanted his music to stay relevant even during the time he was gone. It was actually an innovative move on his part. Because the fans weren't aware of the reasons for it they were confused. His decision keeps his music alive while he was gone, and he had the members help promote his album. Jimin's situation was completely different. How would splitting the songs help Jimin in any way? It wouldn't. Who would make that kind of decision after the song was combined initially, thereby being on the losing end? That is not logical, and to ask someone to think it is doesn't make any kind of sense to me. This is about business, after LC did so well on the charts, who in their right mind would call that a good business decision? I don't see how the integrity of Jimin's work was compromised in the song being in English, especially since Jimin would have been the very one to approve of it. I'm sorry that reasoning doesn't make any sense.
I 100% agree with you, but these fake fans or so called righteous people think that they know everything personally and targeting every single person who are raising right and reasonable questions. Atleast the world knows though and I'm happy with that fact. I know they said ridiculous things to shut that person down because by questioning all these things , it hurts their ego. I also don't think for all these things still happening to him doesn't make any sense to me at all. This year , more than half of the Army's true colours are shown. Toxic and fake OT7 and fake Army's and solo stans ,shippers are exposed. It's so heartbreaking but Army is destroyed. And I'm seeing this in every reactions and comment sections and by reactors banning BTS reactions because of fandom. It's just that when people are ranking most toxic fandoms, everyone is putting down Army as no.1 and sadly it's a fact. And I not consider myself as an Army in that kind of fandom ,atleast not right now. Maybe when BTS are together in 2025 , the vibes would be happy and respectful just like in 2017-19 . I just hope we have a fandom cleaning and the trash would be out by then. 🥺💞🧡❤️
well... if you do a split you can sell it as it's own song and you have more different songs to sell aka. you can sell more albums - because you do not actually have to sell all songs of an album to count as a full album sale. And that is if Big Hit made the decision to split. The possibility is - as some mentioned - that it was decided by Billboard/Spotify themselves to sabotage charting. Around the same time Army protested Post Malone had a simlar issue with one of his songs. I remember that because his father added to Army's protest. Nevermind that Spotify seems to have somehow gotten the idea that the Englsih version had different songwritters (I think it was either one person more or one person less) than the Korean version and therefore used this to declare this a different song. Spotify has more than once messed up credits from BTS members. I think there is another artist also named Suga that somehoe got credited a song by our Suga - and that is on Spotify. Do I trust their claim that it was Big Hit's decision? No. It is possible but ultimetly I do not believe them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I liked boracity magazine's video essay on the topic better.
I'm only halfway thru the vid but I wanted to point out a couple things that I think are important to take into account. Each member is different and amazing in their own way. In personality and musical interests/tastes and goals. I firmly believe each member individually CHOSE the direction of their solos and the promotion activities etc. Based on their personality differences I just stated. Jk has always stated he wants to be a huge pop star. I believe BigHit/HYBE helped him promote and produce accordingly. But that isn't necessarily what the other members are going for and that's perfectly fine. Suga had the catalog to support a whole successful world tour. RM knew from the start that he wasn't making an album for huge sales and record setting international recognition but it was amazing and personal to him and he chose to do a smaller show at a venue that was meaningful to him when he was young and dreaming of the future. Jin didn't have as much time to put things together before he went to military so I think when he gets home we will get more from him which I'm def excited about, also. Jimin is notoriously shy and I think that's why he didn't do as many interviews etc but let's be honest, Face was an amazing album with a crazy good reception world wide. I don't think they would spare any expense if he wanted to do a vid for each song. I know he mentioned it once but he may have changed his mind for any number of reasons. And that is perfectly fine. JHope went with a whole new concept which turned out to be amazing as well and Lollapalooza and his collab with J Cole was a dream he had since childhood. V did an album which he knew going into it was in a very niche genre but he did great promotions and interviews and performances that were so cool and appropriate. I'm sure it is extremely uncomfortable for them when so called fans try to victimize them and pit them against each other and against the company that has not only supported them but think about it... BTS built BigHit. Literally from the ground up. I'm pretty positive they have absolute ability and authority to do whatever they want whenever they want at this point. As it should be. Those boys are not only carrying the company on their backs, they are basically carrying the country on their backs at this point. The pressure must be immense. I can't even imagine. Victimizing them and acting like they are being mistreated by the company they built is silly and probably hurtful to them. I think solo stans are the ones pushing this issue. It's ok to have a favorite but not one single member would EVER condone or appreciate anyone talking down about any other member who they see as their brothers. This really needs to stop. They have been asking army to trust them since they started 10 years ago. Trust your idol. The fact they resigned their contract so early should have put all this talk to bed because that is proof right there that they are HAPPY and supported by each other and their company. Which, if you are truly army should make you happy for them and excited about the future! Best is yet to come 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Thank you so much for addressing my question to you. This is the 2nd time I have requested you post a video on a subject and I think you hit the nail on the head in both posts. You made some excellent points on both sides of this issue around the topic of favoritism and sabotage. I really liked your points about constructive vs. destructive criticism. I have argued this issue on a couple of sites that the company is not sabotaging the members but acknowledge their were mistakes made by the company. However, the members also had agency in the decisions made regarding their albums and promotions. I had many people agree with me, but also many call me a company Stan. Jimin is my bias and the reason I became Army. I think there were a lot of issues with the support of his album but not outright sabotage. We don’t have the same level of outrage for the Hyung line issues that fans (Army, solo, shippers, etc) have for the members of the maknae line. I agree we the fans need to hold the company accountable, but to do so in a constructive manner that does not taint or victimize the artists we love. Just one thing regarding the number of music videos for Jimin. Some people don’t take into account the cost of Jimin’s videos compared to other members, especially at that time. They literally built the set of SMF pt 2. One industry producer estimated the cost of that video to be over $1 million. Way more than videos by the others at that point. Also, fans did not know at the time that Jimin was putting out additional music or maybe evan another album before enlistment with music video(s). The two projects combined could possibly exceed the cost of the other members. We just don’t know. Suga’s tour made a lot of money, but the US leg was subsidized by the NBA. I think good lessons were learned (unfortunately at Jimin’s expense) on how to better support solo releases based on how well he did. I don’t think anyone expected Jimin to do as well as he did with such a personal project. Anyway, enough said as I could write an essay, but just wanted to thank you again. Have to send you my next topic soon. 😏💜💜
Si desafortunadamente fue Jimin, con el que se tuvo que aprender a base de acierto- error. Es interesante la visión que tienes y se agradece desde una postura objetiva, Jimin es un profesional y cuando va a realizar algún proyecto siempre tiene en mente que sea de experiencia. Por qué lo dijo, porque en el libro hay una parte donde se comenta que el sugirió que se realizarán cambios en como se presentaban los conciertos, y que ARMI saliera satisfecha de ver un espectáculo de primera. Hay situaciones que no podemos entender, en cómo se fueron desarrollando cada uno de los lanzamientos. En realidad el de Jimin y Yoongi cadí fueron muy juntos.pero bueno. Eso les dejo puntos a trabajar y experiencia. Yo como fans de Jimin, también aprendí a respetar aunque no esté de acuerdo en algunas situaciones. Se que para Jimin BTS es familia. Él es un Ser agradecido no tonto. También el no nos puede compartir todo y se respeta, principalmente su vida privada. Tengo 59 años, nunca había admirado a un artista como a Jimin. Me cautivó desde que lo vi danzar y cantar: fue una conexión instantánea, y dije WOOW. Soy Psicomotricista, para mí él movimiento corporal es una fuente de expresión muy grande y Jimin cumple con estándares muy altos cuando lo vemos bailar es un deleite, te puede contar una historia con cada movimiento y ejecución en un espacio: a un ritmo y tiempo meramente bello. Desearía, que pudieras compartirme: porque tanto odio hacia él, desde donde surge , los heters le dan con todo, aunque el no haga nada para merecerlo. Te agradezco
@@nanamishita9048 it is the same as my screen name without the 509. However, I don't really post on twitter. I just use it to stay abreast of what people are saying.
I appreciate this video - very clear and concise. However, Perception is Reality. The current 'perception' is that there is a favorite between two artists doing almost the exact same thing. I understand that everything they do is a CHOICE. I can't wrap my head around why Jimin would CHOOSE to not submit his work for RIAA. There are additional benefits to the artist/company for that recognition. That is just smart business. Wouldn't BigHit want that for their artist? For themselves? Even if it is only for 'bragging rights'? If anyone could help me with that, I'd greatly appreciate it.
I like your channel, but there's one thing that makes me wonder..if Jimin was the one who asked to split Like Crazy korean and english version, why didn't he do it from the start? especially if you think it's because of the meaning of the lyrics. he prepared the album for 10 months so there was no way he would miss this. Then the big question is the timing, when Like Crazy hit #1 on Global Spotify on the 3rd day, on the 4th day it was immediately split without any notification. If it's Jimin wish, he will definitely confirm like what JHope did. but till now he never said anything. he just said that he asked mv for all the song but being declined and he felt the promotion too short..imagine prepared your album for 10 months just to get promotion for 9 days 😢and for you who said jimin is an adult and smart man, you right but every job have contract especially an idol, and ofc it will benefit the comp than artist. that's why they can't blatantly said how they felt. i'm not jimin manager, but even common people can think with logic.
Jimin has always been sweet naughty kind but his does have feelings I have watched dance practice videos music videos when I started watching I first notice rm then Jimin his stye is on point he reminds me of Michael Jackson prince he just shines even if he put in the back it makes no difference where he where he stands he still stands taller with his brilliance and his talents you can't hide what everyone sees with their own two eyes they can't stop his excellent talent. I saw it with my own eyes his dancing and singing takes you to a different place a beautiful place to observe this legend in the making makes me think of when Michael Jackson first performed you could not take your eyes off of him or Prince
Gracias 🙏 por apreciar a este hermoso hombre. Es real a mi también me atrapó su línea de bailé y expresión. No importa donde lo coloquen él brilla por merito propio. Todos sus esfuerzos, el trabajó duro como lo llaman, yo lo llamo aprhendizaje. Él se fue construyendo y estructurando a base de error- acierto. Si bien no tuvo u maestro de canto al principio el busco las posibilidades: aunque le costaron lágrimas, él práctico hasta perfeccionarlo, que le dio experiencia. Ahora es un artista completo, su viaje lo inicio y modelo a base de vivir experiencias. Sus movimientos son suaves, pero firmes, su expresión corporal es increíble te puede transportar al igual que oírlo cantar te puede inundar de un sin fin de emociones.💖🐥💖✨👏🙌🙏🕺💎👑🎵
@lavernecook1025 In sync with my feelings about Jimin. Even though I know very well that everyone has different tastes, I am often puzzled about why some people cannot see Jimin's brilliance. He just has that something more than other people that I can't explain. I believe they call it " jai ne se qua"? I also agree that Jm reminds Mj or Prince, much more than Jk (some people said that Jk reminds MJ). Jk to me is similar to Justin Timberlake than MJ.
@@winstaff4182It might have to do with the vocal ability. At the end of the day, Jimin does not have the vocals to be compared to Michael Jackson. His dance style is also different. Jimin leans into sensual, rounded contemporary in a way that is unique but not like MJ's cool, power sharp dances. Even JK would have a hard time matching MJ in vocals. But JK's power and R&B hip hop dances is probably why he gets the comparison. 'Standing next to you' only made it more noticeable. I do love Jimin's vocal tone and dance. He has his own lane in my opinion. So does JK.
I liked your point of view however I have different opinion regarding the Spotify issue because it is highly unlikely that Jimin micromanages to that extent. In such a case, he can be called an individual artist and would not require a label to manage him. Also mismanagement is evident in case of album restocks, RIAA certification and to point out the recent special talk incident as well. I know people may say it might be Jimin's decision to keep it simple however there is atleast an industry standard that needs to be followed by the management. Yes the event was a success inspite of the bad lighting and stage set up as Jimin is excellent in crowd work and shines like a star he is. I'm sure he would have certainly expressed his honest thoughts about how things can be improved at a future occasion. But these things could have been managed better. I love all the members and I'm proud of their musical achievements and it's heart warming to see their growth. Mismanagement should be called out and members should not be attacked for their musical aspirations.
What you said is sadly very true. The seemingly constant mismanagement just gives you the impression that it was intentional. And the indifference on the part of the company furthers deepened that impression. Hopefully whatever is causing this be stopped. Cuz each member deserves to be treated well.
You are so right! JIMIN'S stage for his fan meeting with ARMY, was pathetic. Lightning was horrible. The stage looked like something done in a elementary school play. Just look at Suga's and V's. So very sad. Jimin would never complain. His presence was the best thing.
What nonsense. All 7 bts members have control over their own solo. They have stated many times that they made their own decisions about promotion. Bighit gave them all the same budget. Some members got sponsor for their solo projects. Hybe has no control over when albums or songs get certified. Hybe also has no control over shipping. All hybe artist are distributed by ygplus and geffin records.
@juvelynco3956 I know guys, it's 100% truth. I know people are trying so hard to target us because they themselves knows that but it hurts their egos to admit that fact. Some fake fans are targeting us because either they are solo stans as fake OT7 fans and some are those fake fans who hate certain members to praise their biases indirectly. Not a single person gives us the right and reasonable explanation about our questions, but this fake OT7 fandom is ready to fight with us but they don't said a single sentence where the real haters and so called OT7 and solo stans just destroying any member, you can never find them there . Because they are haters too. They are solo stans too. I'm just happy that atleast the world now knows about all these things and I just pray that that's not happened again to any member. 🧡❤️🥰
@@nicoleloss7987 "BH gave them all the same budget" would you have a source for that statement? Re certification - "Certification is not automatic; for an award to be made, the record label must first request certification." (Source Wikipedia, RIAA certification) So based on this, it wasn't done for Jimin. Of course, it could have been an oversight initially but if you request certification for one member, shouldn't that ring a bell to check which other members qualify too?
Thank you so much for your thoughts. It's hard for those of ARMY to understand that BTS love each other no matter what. They did solo careers not to spite one another but to try their hand at a solo career. Everyone of the other BTS members loves that Jungkook is doing great and they may have said to themselves "I wish I would have done this or that differently", but they have nothing but love for Jungkook and his efforts. So thank you for putting it in much better words than I ever could have. I continue to enjoy your videos.
I really appreciate your explanation. I definitely agree with your thoughts. We can never be subjective to things that we don't really know much. It is also unfair to keep accusing a BTS member/members or Hybe if an individual project does not fair well compared to others. Hope that some ARMYs reserve the right of BTS member to decide on how they conduct their projects. Respect individual differences. All of them are talented, that's undeniable. Each of them has also his own degree of perfection and motivation.
This is a very important topic. I think it's important to the continuing success of BTS as a group (ie Chap 2 and beyond). I have only seen BTS in concert via online streaming, but it gave me a chance to see the types of comments that ARMYs make. For the most part the experience is heartwarming but there have been some who seem a bit toxic in their comments / attitude. Personally, I think it might have to do with a lack of maturity (ie in thinking not necessarily age ony), so I'm hoping that as the BTS members continue to grow and mature, the fandom's culture does as a whole, as well.
And the stage they gave jimin for his fanmeeting was a whole joke?? And jimin didnt understand what was happening and people are like " maybe he wanted it" like are you for real
They have chosen just to close their eyes and ears and believe that everything around them is completely fair and absolutely fine... and if we call out for the same we are tagged as toxic solo ...
exactly!!! how does that make you a solo to want a nice stage for the members? or given proper respect and not giving like crazy the certification it shouldve gotten long ago, even non fans of bts have noticed the insane amount of BS going on@@AditiShandilya-d7j
@@nicoleloss7987 They have to say it to make it seems everything is OK for their fans because any member speak about mistreatment or unfairness? That will be the end of BTS because it will bring huge chaos to BTS fandoms & each BTS members will talk about their grievances & unhappy feelings towards each others which means fight among BTS members. Have you not seen disbanding of other idol group? If any of the member decided to not sign with Hybe, Or decided to walk away, that will be the end of BTS because Hybe has the right to the idol group name BTS & it’s brand & they will never let BTS members to walk away from them while using ‘BTS’ name! Look at the Black Pink right now! The fact is that Hybe is holding idol brand name BTS as their hostage & all the BTS members who love to be working together as the BTS member & their beloved Army as their fans will keep their mouth shut as long as they can bare it!
The members chose the ACTIVITIES they wanted to use for promotion. It's the responsibility of the STAFF to implement them in a professional, timely and effective manner. The company was negligent in many cases at best and sabotaged in other cases at worse. Period.@@nicoleloss7987
I appreciate very much the distinction you made between promotion planning and course correction after the fact. The issue isn't really about the promotion plan anymore (we all understand different members, different music, different wants); rather, it's what happens or doesn't happen after the songs and albums are released and the first results are received. Big Hit has the responsibility to be professional in sustaining a business culture where recognizing issues before they become major problems regardless of who is at fault or made an inadvertent mistake and figuring out the next best steps are considered as positives and rewarded -- continuous learning has been proven time and time again to be essential for company growth, as it is for each of us as individuals. The last thing we need is for Big Hit and Army to never learn from failures and missteps and stay the same, never adapting, never evolving. I hope the company and all the fans can grasp this instead of essentially blaming each member and their choices as artists for what happens after their work is released to the world. My fear is if staff or anyone for that matter ends up being too prideful or afraid of repercussions from having to say that there had been a mistake that they refuse to see and understand how to do better next time. Getting smarter and evolving will also build trust with everyone who cares about BTS and its members.
Since we know that all the BTS members have degrees in entertainment business and production, I think many, if not all the members put together their plans for their solo work. I feel assured that Big Hit and Hybe will do whatever they can to make the members album plans work. From budget planning, concept, marketing, design and musical production. As stated, these young men are intelligent and artistic, but above all they are family, and they respect and live with each other. Whatever the outcome of their releases, they know it's on themselves, but they also know they'll do their very best for ARMY. That is true love. As an ARMY, I will always respect, love, and support each member's work.
Only correction is they no longer live with each other. They did for 10+ years, but that changed in 2021-2022 time frame, which they even said in FESTA 2022 dinner. Otherwise, totally agree. These members know what they are doing. It isn't all on the company, and I'm kind of sick of hearing it from solo stans. I'm sure each member has discussions within the company on what they want to achieve in their solo efforts and how to promote those efforts. When people pit the members against each other, when they themselves each love each other, I get angry even to the point of unsubscribing to some of those people. It's OK to have a bias, but it's going too far these days, and it's sad.
speaking of company WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO MAKE THE MEMBER'S ALBUM'S WORK.. So, WHY DID THEY REMOVED JIMIN's 700k sells in its first day of released? Why did they deleted 100k sells in its 2nd week in US ??? why they NEVER RESTOCK Jimin's album ? this is WHAT PJM's everyday calling to HYBE. BUT THEY act blind and DEAF. this are just "SOME" of Pjm's kept asking to the Company ,THEY WANT AN ANSWER . BUT ALL THE EMAILS BEEN IGNORED.
@debhouckscraftycottage9288 I saw that typo after I pressed send. I meant to write that they Love💜 each other. Thanx for the reply; I appreciate it. 💜😁👍
Long rant ahead…I apologize. 1. Yes, some things don't add up. Admittedly, some things that happened during each solo release were quite bizarre, BUT I think we lack patience as a fandom and need answers now now now (that has to stop for our own sake). I agree with you, trying to fill in blanks when we do not have information like budgeting for MVs vs backup dancers vs set design and conclude that there is mistreatment is more inflated outrage than proof. Proof is difficult. So I would call out company incompetence but can’t bring myself to call anything “willful mistreatment” without knowing all the information. 2. Vigilance, yes. But I do worry about some fans' motivation to bring up such differences/ issues with the company's strategies as merely a part of a game of "let's compare records/ numbers" to "win" idiotic verbal spats. The guys are not trying to one up each other. That has never been their narrative, so why are the fans crying and tripping over their own feet with every release and record, I will never understand. I will also never understand Kpop stans' definition of a flop, the reactionary response of calling every release a flop when all the guys broke records in their own way is simply dense. Hot 100, although impressive, is not the only chart or definition of success. 3. I also find it profoundly idiotic that people take it really personally when X member gets praised for something that the fandom as a whole deemed not a part of their personality in the 'ARMY fanmade orientation videos'. If I praise X member’s live vocals when that isn’t what they are known for/ publicized for by/ within the fandom, then you will get “corrected” or called a “diet solo” 😖. No one member is solely responsible for BTS’ favor in the world (I really dislike that stance, it is disrespectful to BTS and most of all incorrect). I am careful not to compare members in statements of praise (not that that will stop people from freely misunderstanding and getting angry *insert one giant eye roll*). I don’t care for such rhetoric and will like the songs I like, I will praise vocals, dance and rap as I want. I don’t care for arbitrary Kpop tiers. BTS just wants to be respected by the industry and us as artists, that is their legacy, not numbers. The numbers are just a happy result. I will not trivialize their importance but if the fandom is not enjoying the music, but ONLY number chasing, I think there is a problem. I also do not worry about Weverse or Western "journalists" calling only one member the shining star or the redeemable artist of BTS or how one member should "go solo". The west has never seen a band move like BTS - members hyping and showing up at each other's solo releases, solo releases while the group is active. But the west can only view BTS through the eyes of previous boys bands so they need that narrative. I have become numb to such statements. BTS have been so loud about 2025 and how this time is to explore their musical taste. That is all. My advice to anyone struggling with the solo era rhetoric is to just listen to the music, just the music. Enjoy what the guys are presenting through lyrics, production, choreography, concerts and so on. You will fall in love with this era too. 💜
I believe that BTS have their own exposure to what they want to do they have more freedom than other K-pop industries have for their K-pop idols. We know that BTS is bigger than K-pop we know that their global superstars each individually as well as a group! The point here that I’m making is when you made the statement that BTS are not fans of each other I think you need to expand more on that and let me tell you why specifically here’s proof at lollapalooza when J-Hope was headlining solo, JiMin came to support and be a fan of J-Hope during his performance and he even said it on a live meeting with ARMYs that he is a fan of J-Hope so therefore that disputes they are fans of each other‘s work they do love each other as members and I think they’re extremely close 10+ years living together and working together has a bond that’s bigger than any other boy group out there that has ever existed there are no egos there are no hate there is no ill intentions and jealousy‘s that are part of this beautiful group of talented young men! The science here when it comes to emotion Mr. Spock would say it’s not logical emotions are not logical, people have emotions that are not reasonable or clarified to make sense most of the time! It has to do with feeling an emotion and when it comes to that no one will be perfect and there are faults in the human condition! But because they have lived with each other so long know each other and their personalities they can push back jealousies and egos they can support each other and their solo work as well not just for one person to shine but all seven members of BTS to shine ! whether they are doing solo work or group work they all seven shine and they all bring something unique and beautiful to the creative table! Prejudice, ignorance and bigotry has always been part of BTS ‘s ongoing struggles with trying to get acceptance especially in the western music market look what the Grammys did they did that 66 th annual nominees announcements and completely shut out K-pop not just BTS but every single K-pop group that submitted their work! BTS ‘s solo albums and the other K-pop groups albums were all dismissed their songs their albums and anything that is considered to be a nomination for the creativity! Completely ignored ! The simple fact that the Grammys and many other of the western award shows have to make separate K-pop categories and order for them to be included! You would know that BTS and the other K-pop groups would completely slam the Western artist if they had the promotion and the opportunities and play on the radio like the other western groups ! BTS will come back in 2025 and when they do whatever they have set out is going to be successful they have already proven themselves in South Korea and they’ve proven them self globally! JungKook has already had his sights on the western music market and he is slaying it! 😊💜BoraHae
Jimin is my bias but i do love the other 6 members as i loved and respect jimin.i will always believed that they are the 7 normal boys from korea whom love by army globally.no one and nothing can break the bond tnat army and bts had shared through the years.bts till the end💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
OMG one of the biggest things this whole fandom has failed to address is that the members are tired they needed that break. JK would have continued to sleep all day and relax, as he should, if he didn’t have obligations to the company and because his brothers were reminding him he should be working, lol. We all saw how impressed they were to see Suga’s schedule was packed, we now know it was because he planned for a solo concert. Though concerts cost money they are also big money makers while big production MVs and albums have huge up front costs that you may never see a profit from if you don’t budget well. What happened to letting them rest? Why all these grandiose desires to have them break individual records? It’s those “fans” that want to push this narrative instead of just enjoying what BTS wants to put out.
Correct they needed a rest and then time to exercise their creative muscles if they wanted to and in their own time frame that was available to them before they enter their individual military service. Too many people want to control and micro manage them and I mean especially solo stans. It's got to stop, they need to leave the men of BTS alone and stop thinking they know what's 'best' for whichever member they are a solo stan of..
Everyday I get so frustrated when i see JK doing yet another promo. If he wants it like that, fine. He needs rest. Jk has been going nonstop. He'll get sick eventually. 😢 they should be mandating rest periods, not work these guys into the ground. I wanna scream.
@@FaydraGirl I think he had a good long rest and now he's just wants to perform. I hope he does slow down a bit before he starts his military service. I would wish him to be fit and healthy as that first month of training will be hard well not so hard for him he's so fit physically than most who will be with him.
Omg You hit on the nail, this was going to be my next comment. Why isn't there health a concern, or them being able to have a real relationship and last them being kept safe.
Yoongi himself said that HYBE said he could do a stadium tour if he wanted because he would definitely be able to fill stadiums, but it was Yoongi who doubted that and chose to do arena tours, which he later regretted. That is an example too of BigHit not forcing BTS to do what they don’t want to do, because BH could have made a lot more money off a stadium tour.
Nothing to do with Jimin not getting his album restocked, having his streams split or not getting his song certificated by Hybe and Geffen like JK 7 did
@@veruskatorres9276 The company doesn't do that they cant' certificate it themselves you need to read up on how it's done and the fact it's not up to the Record Company.
@veruskatorres9276 I know but no matter what you said, these so called righteous people target you to shut down because it's hurting their narrative and opinions. I'm not forcing any opinions to people to agree with me but they are legit fighting with every person who have questions because they think they know them personally but yet they still don't answering any of our questions but saying aggressively that they are right, like seriously? I've asked that question so many times to people like these about the game issue and the platinum issue but not a single so called fan said anything to atleast prove themselves right. But of course they want to satisfy themselves to be seen a righteous person. But these are not said a single sentence when some haters or solo stans or Shippers destroying one member continuesly every single day, so do they think yeah that was right , they are doing their thing but they are ready to fight with people who have genuine questions and have their opinions and they are not hating any other members by doing that, they think yeah they have to fight with those people. Are they dumb? Or they think we are dumb because we're not. That's why I call them hypocrites. And they proved it by doing this. Don't waste your energy with them. We know what's happening and I just hope that never happens again to any member. 🧡❤️
@@veruskatorres9276girl euphoria and left and right have BEEN sold 1 million but have yet to be certified, beyoncé didnt update her certifications for TEN YEARS, stop acting like this is some huge mistreatment scandal exclusive to jimin because its not
I am trying to build constructive criticism here. I agreed that we need to build constructive criticisms. I have one big thing of thos video is based on "my trust", "my assumption", however, also criticized that what fans have brought up is because of "assumptions". When we don't know "what if" situations. Therefore what's actually important is the communication. For example, fans first asked for the reason why Like crazy has been seperated. In the context, there are many things that seem not "logical" which I am aware that it could be subjective. When fans ask the explanation, no feedback was given and fans searched for the answer and then there was a conclusion of intentional separation of Like Crazy. Timing was "suspicious" as well. What would be the "logic" here. Another example is my trust of "emotional and intellectual" ability to renew the contract so that we trust the company is based on assumption. There are many variables and this is the biggest assumption. In our life, even though we know, we can'take a decision based on only my "intellectual and emotional" ability. This is why we need to advocate. So, I think for this video to be more constructive, there should be more evidences to back up because most of the points can be arguable because they are based on personal belief and assumption rather than factual evidences which is against what the statement was initially.
I have some personal complaints regarding my bias...BUT.... They can't have the same budget, promotions, etc. This is solo era. DIFFERENT genres, DIFFERENT promotion styles, DIFFERENT concept and planning--but all centered on what the member wants. As long as the boys are happy with what they have done, we have no right to make it sound like they failed in what they wanted to do in the first place. Let's just appreciate and love each project because this is what each member wants.
I agree with this. I see a lot of people expressing their dissatisfaction with certain members’ promotions.. claiming the member is being mistreated.. and I don’t think they realize that their words reflect negatively in that member- they unknowingly make it sound like that members’ promotion failed. I do think each member targeted their promotions the way they wanted. Do I feel some promotions were mishandled a bit? Yes I do, and I hope that the company is taking note and learning from these errors
Don't think Jimin will ask for the two versions of Like Crazy be separated. Something does not add up. Some of the questions raised there are legitimate. Not restocking the albums (if the claim is indeed true) is not right. Sadly, ignoring these concerns seems to just make it worse. Hope they can clarify it honestly and not just release some general excuse. Sad to see that it has come to the point of having to send protest trucks to get attention. I don't think anyone wants this. hope they can clear these up. Cuz it's not fair to all the members.
"It's the members choice" is the answer to end the conversation which I don't think might be true for every choice and I do believe there's something really strange in all of this
jimin literally said in an interview that he wanted to make mvs for his bsides too but he was told to "be reasonable" so it didn't happen, and this fandom wants to convince everyone it's always "the member's choice"? PLEASE 😂
@@jade-ri4hmit’s never too late! I would STILL be into seeing videos for these songs!! Is it impossible for them to do some great cool videos for us to watch while they are away? That would make ARMY so happy!
I was thinking the same too. l don't think jimin will ask his two version to be separated. I think it's Spotify mistake they combined Jennie two version of her song "You & I" but then they separated it 2 days later just like Jimin song.
Imagine acting like Jimin didnt want his single to be certificated for going Platinum in the USA, or that he didnt want any promo despite singing in eng, or he didnt want any restock for his billboard second week or wanted his streams split etc etc
@@nicoleloss7987 Hybe has control over it see JK certification it was made by Big hit and Geffen And is not the album im talking about just show you dont really pay attention about Jimin bc how tf you dont know that LC sold 1M in USA before 7?
@@nicoleloss7987 Boy, you are really a Jimin hater, aren't you? I am impressed with your energy to go around and spend so many weeks and nights on social media in order to against Jimin. Wow, you are really something else. Because of your kind of person, armies are splitting apart. Gees, that's enough.
There are many variables, yes. But strip everything away to few and it is clear. Splitting after the fact did not benefit any one. It was not that way from the beginning. Let's not try to guess Jimin would even have a hand in these kind of decisions after the fact, come-on. As a company, i would take his wishes but ultimately, these are promo decisions. RIAA--OK, so not do his first and do JK's later one first is not right or fair. Again, Jimin should not have to worry about this. No restock of CDs and no listing on TTHs when it was released. It does not matter if incompetence or sabotage at this point. It's not fair. It is not a rinky dink company without employees.
We have all let Jimin down by not voting for him at the BBMA'S, now he will think he's not good enough and work himself to exhaustion. He broke the record as the only solo Korean to debut at No1 on the Billboard hot 100, millions of army said Like Crazy was song of the year but in the end they voted for JK instead. Im so proud of JK but the level of disrespect towards Jimin is disgusting. Even his own company cant be bothered to let him do more than two videos. Hes the most undervalued member, without him BTS wouldn't be the same, he adds the extra magic to BTS performances. What if he chose to not return in 2025, then what. Fake army will be happy then. I am very sad for him that hes treated this way. We all let him down
@@crystalsnow1138 You don't know him very well if you think he's fine, he's an absolute perfectionist. He will think he's not good enough, some army let him down big style, they know who they are. Jimin isn't 2n best to JK he's equally as talented If not more, Jimin can do what the other 6 members can't. They don't have his training
@@mrsta8233Wow, bias much! Oh and by the way true Army aren't treating Jimin like a child, as you seem to be. You aren't Jimin's keeper. Stop trying to think you know how he is feeling or what he is going to be feeling. He may have been similar too what you say at one point, but that was how many years ago. And he has changed, matured, grown in so many ways. If you think he is still the same as back than, you haven't been paying attention. You, in many ways, sound simply ridiculous.
I agree with you 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻... it's the company that should have done better at their work... each of them deserves better...bts deserves better... plus the armys (or maybe solostans) who were vocal about the unfair treatment towards the members.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💜💜💜
Now, let's talk LOGICALLY, based on FACTS we've experienced before, THERE ARE DIFFERENT treatments for each member's solo activities! What about these facts for the TWO members "allegedly" having been "mistreated", first ones to debut their solo careers: 1) Hobi did not HAVE a physical JITB album at first? He WANTED this or was it suggested to him so that, later, when he enlisted, they could release the physicals? Now where's the LOGIC in this? NO physicals in your DEBUT means LOW numbers in BB & other charts that emphasize them, or am I wrong? Not to mention affecting number of total SALES??? As in, which is more expensive, a physical or digital album??? Oh, but they did try to rectify it by releasing a Limited Edition VINYL in December? 2) Seokjin's The Astronaut, hmmm yes, NO mistreatments at all! 9-day Pre-Order. 1 week shut down of shipping immediately after Debut with Itaewon as the excuse, though it was only logistic activities & not TV performances in S. Korea, and other logistic Cos still did business then. 1 week of Japan's sales delay. 1 1/2 MONTHS delay for US & EU shipping with NO NUMBERS of sales reported to date. Informing sales on US weverse or other Korean shops would count on BB but later BTS Merch informed that US weverse "no longer says 100% of the sales count towards Billboards," also KTOWN4U informed this LATER. Hanteo sales frozen to 700k on FIRST day so TA could only be at #3 for total highest number of Hanteo sales in 2022. Maybe because TA was already the FIRST Gaon Million Seller (since changing from Circle), so no need to have TWO Million Seller titles (Gaon sales came first as they were counted from distributors' sales, Hanteo from retailers)! No radio spins. No payola. No millions of remixes. No separate English & Korean versions to chart higher. No inclusion on Spotify's TTH till very late after Debut, etc, etc.
I'll never forget what Jhope face for his album, he didn't release physical album his fans were complaining about his decision alot to the point that he feel guilty for his decision, months later he release physical album to satisfy some fans demand
Very well said but I'm not still convinced that there's no favoritism here. The company announced the resigned contract when the chaotic time happened. Why not before the solo era so that we solo stan will understand the process while in fact we're the direct customers right? They do crisis management to silenced the mess they've done. Sometimes something might not be seen by our own eyes but our intuations are enough to spot the real thing. And why this explanation happend just after the claims from fans of unfair treatment. This world has a lot of problems already and we stan the group that could enlighten our lives in a little bit. Then this happens unfair treatment which forcefully covered by some. Im sorry but i hope theres someone who made a content on what the fans just really feel nowadays. Hope theres no crisis management done and all things will just fall into as if nothing happened. Its safe to say that nothing's wrong here just dont be obvious. Where is the LOVE YOUR SELF here if they alone hurt us... Please understand our side also dont solo stans are forcing the issue its them making an issue we're just reacting to it....
As soon as Jungkook album came out mostly tae solo stans and jimin solo stans are busy victimising their biases which is very sad to see in this fandom. POOR JK he’s almost surrounded by these toxic people just because he chose to sing in english which is the most risky job according to me because as an asian artist ,western people non kpop fans are ready to tear him down and pull him down ,his own fandom are doing the same.My 7 boys are facing so many criticism but remember this will only make them stronger and soar higher so ignorance is bliss.
@@acopitchy3951 its actually less than 1 percent. all combine they hold about 0.6 percent. which is little pennies. they should hold at least 1 percent each.
well said about the solo stans. they do play a part but solo also needs to think about what it would mean for any of the members if army were only bias to one member. because than none of the members would have the result that they do now. ot7 support all the members and i have bought all 7 albums so far. but if none of of did that they would all get lower sales and streams. so solos need us but too, but we also need them like you said. they give us the ability to push for more and make history.
It's hard to NOT notice that the company has its favourites. You can tell from the content, the articles they choose to promote, the push they give for certain songs or projects that the others don't have. I'm disappointed but not shocked bc bighit is just like any other business. I just find it ironic cuz this fandom always preaches about member equality but i haven't been seeing that at all 😂
@@jade-ri4hm I've been called so multiple times, it's crazy but the truth is that I love all the members and I support what they put out. However if I see something that makes me lift an eyebrow I'm gonna speak about it
You do know each member has a different style in music, and company allow them to do so. You can't control people's choice of music, and they have different target audience. One thing the guys and PD has stated plenty times the give them freedom to do their thing.
This! The fandom is partly to blame with how the members are being treated differently. Army should be calling out bh for their clear bias of certain members. It's cause of all members hard work that bts is what they are today ALL members
Well one can definitely see the differences in promotions of the idols. And I don't know think any one member will ever hate on another all I can see among them is love and brotherhood and they deserve every good thing that come their way....and I love them them all❤💜
If you look at the sum of all of the recent interviews by PD bang, you can see that they really want to have clout in the western music market. They promoted Jungkooks English album more than they did any other album because they figured that one had a better chance of getting what they wanted. They had BTS released three English songs in hopes of winning a Grammy When that did not happen they tried with Jungkook They promoted his album more than other solo album They-were counting on getting that number one using HYBE America but Jimin got it without their help so it kind of threw a wrench in their plans. Most companies would have done a complete turnaround, and totally provided tons of support to the artist who got the number one, but they all, but ignored him. This is not against Jungkook but if you look at the facts they are there and they’re undeniable. It is not a reflection on BTS but HYBE
IMHO...the company went from BigHit "music and artists for healing" to HYBE "forget the artists, it's $$$$ we're after." I'm not sure why BTS re-signed with HYBE, but frankly I wish they hadn't.
Your argument is based on the assumption that Jimin would have wanted them to heavily promote in the US. When looking at all the promotions they each seem to “fit” the individual members very well. So, maybe, we shouldn’t start assuming that each member would have wanted to have the kind of promotion JK is getting. Maybe (and NONE of us will ever truly know), each member got the promotion they wanted and were comfortable with. Can we all please start our arguments by assuming ALL the members are smart and know themselves and their own desires better than we do? Please??
What I can say is that Jimin is a perfectionist, meticulous, vocal, and smart. He won’t settle for anything less, and he is not a weakling. He is a born leader, a profound thinker, and with a hidden warrior in him. I won’t give a litany of what will back-up my perception of him. And yet, he is bound by contract and obligations, and there are things he cannot control. But it is clear as day that he was neglected if not sabotaged by the company. Is it because he is weak or submissive? No, it is because he has a voice they must always contend with, to which the company is resentful and spiteful. As simple as restocking his cd, such a big company cannot do? My friend said, how will they sabotage a shareholder? Well, Jimin is only 1/7 of the 3% combined shares of the members. Who knows what’s in the hearts of RM, V, and the other members, if they have frustrations with the company? And JK, how do we know what’s in his heart, how come he delayed reacting being #1 in BBHot 100? These boys will renew their contracts for the reason that they find fulfilment and joy in their music, and they feel indebted to the army who waits for them. My disappointment is all towards the company. Business is just business and these boys are treated as mere commodities. They are not indispensable.
Boracity Magazine did a video on how all the members had their own way of promoting their solos and why it was done the way they did. Explaining it so meticulously... Maybe you both could get together, that would be awesome. And also thank you for your input/insight. I always check your video's.
I agree with you! I really liked Boracity Magazine's video about this! It explained it so well. I HIGHLY recommend this video, and yes, maybe you could get together about this. 🙂
I looked at that video and it makes 100% sense the way they embarked in their activities. also we have to consider that due to time constraints they have to fit some spaces, and let the other member shine when it was due. also they are working so hard to not only work on their material but also working in additional material that will be shown when all of them are in military, they have a strong commitment that BTS is always first and they as solo artist.
It sounds like the armies you hear from considered the solo releases to have failed, and that Big Hit needs to do better to keep from causing their share of those failures again. I missed the part where anything went wrong. I heard over a hundred beautiful or danceable new songs, saw beautiful and fun new videos, saw great results on music charts, and enjoyed variety show interviews about the new work. Maybe my perspective doesn’t count because I don’t see the favoritism. I haven’t heard any complaints about it. I’m not sure I agree that it’s helpful to have army blame Big Hit for perceived injustices. Sure, people should be able to say what they want, but who says that individuals outside the company and outside the group actually know what happened? Our perception matters, but we don’t run the business.
Yes, the company didn't know how to manage their individual works and honestly it's sad because I think this was their time, I hope the future comes with better things for them
It's undertandable that the company could have done better with the management of the solo projects but I think it was way better than if the tannies decided to the work in other company. Because Big Hit Music is experiencing for the frirst time this kind of projects for such big stars
Yoongi and Jimin discussed the fact that they are each responsible for organising all of their own solo promotions on Suchwita. The point about Hoseok's physical album was a great illustration of this. As a further example, Jimin himself considered FACE to be an almost 'throw away' album - something he was going to give to us for free - until the others talked him out of it. The other members, Yoongi in particular, said they had to try hard to convince him to even appear on the Music shows. Was that seeming insecurity due to lack of support from the company? I don't believe so. Going solo is a very intimidating step, one that both Hoseok and Jimin spoke to each other about repeatedly (as we saw from BANGTANTV footage). Sure, the rap line had done their 'mixtapes' but they still weren't 'solo'. At least they had a bit of a taste of what it was like, but Jin and the maknae line had no such 'soft opening'. They had yet to present their true musical style to the world as individuals and would have no real idea how well they would be received. We also have to consider the fact that they're all under the pressure of time constraints due to enlistment as well. I personally can't say how disappointed I was to learn that Jungkook did not write any of the songs on his debut album, especially since he has shown us his talent for it over the years, however he said himself that he was not comfortable with it this time around. I have to respect that and hope he is more confident next time. I can't deny that the implications that Scooter basically only wanted him and not the rest of BTS which is why he was given 'better promotions and opportunities' doesn't disturb me, but ultimately that has nothing to do with Jungkook himself nor his relationship with the other members. We can see by their conservations (again mainly on Suchwita) that they are aware of everything and have talked about it amongst themselves. It's like the 'unfair line distribution' argument. Looking at overall vocal time in a single song doesn't reflect the impact of that part of the song, nor the difficulty. What if one member can't sing/rap as much because they are involved in insane choreography or have to save their voice for technically difficult, high or low notes? Namjoon has addressed this saying that they decide these things as a group and it all evens out in the end anyway. Each one of those men know what they are capable of and are comfortable doing and act accordingly. What if they simply didn't want/can't do more? They are finally in a phase of their careers that THEY have control over as individuals, not having to concede or compromise to anyone else. How many times have they said that they are vastly different people? Naturally they have all approached this hiatus/solo time differently, but they have all said that this experience will only lead to each of them being able to enrich BTS further in the future and, from what we've seen so far, they are so right!
Please stop with disappointed speech, people like you take the enjoyment for solo release album day cause you are more focused on writing credit. All members had writing credit expect Jungkook & V, l do remember when layover came out people like you were more focused on why he didn't have writing credit instead of enjoying his album now Golden is out Jungkook also didn't have writing credit l was seeing complaining why he didn't have writing credit instead of enjoying his album. Can people just enjoy the album V & Jk already explained why they didn't write on their album
@@Sn0wflake7827 a lot of the best singers ever did not write the songs they sang. It would have been great to hear what JK has to say in a song - his point of view- but he has done an amazing job of making these songs his own with his vocal and dance performances. Maybe next time!
The two members that didn’t write their songs were Tae and JK, but that’s fine. Their albums were predominately English albums. If not mistaken, both expressed they had unfinished songs and previous storylines had changed, since both were the last members to release their solo projects. Time was at essence and they needed to present their projects. Surely, both were 💯 % involved in choosing the songs presented to them by other writers once they had a new and clear storyline. The only “questionable” thing was JK working with Scooter B (imo, it was planned by Bang PD, Scooter B and JK for the vision they wanted to promote for JK) bc of his dubious management ethics with previous Western artists. All in all, Tae and JK’s solo projects were successful. Both (all 7) worked very hard.
I really appreciate this comment. I missed the part about Jimin’s album. It warms my heart that he considered it such a first step. I look forward to more! Your comments on all the members was so informative. Thank you!
That's not the problem guys...we know it was their first solo album so they were nervous...the sabotage and ignorance in case of Jimin we are talking about are these--- Why did the company still didn't restocked like crazy single CDs ( of which fans are asking from past 7 months) Why didn't they still applied for RIAA platinum certification when the song was eligible for the award by August itself Why suddenly did they removed his name from writing credits of his own song ( and they added it back 2 days later... like what) Now please don't tell that it was jimin's decision to not restock his CDs because he doesn't want his fans to listen to his songs... that would be ridiculous
the Company tried to REMOVED JIMIN's name on credit in Like Crazy , that happened exactly when Jk released his Seven .. YOU SAID.. "MAYBE JIMIN asked" the company or maybe jimin want it. So "MAYBE" jimin asked the company to discredit him in his own written song? 😂 Pmj's asked for RESTOCK since week of Jimin's released BUT THE COMPANY seems like Blind and deaf . maybe Jimin asked not to restock ??? maybe Jimin asked the company not to ship his album to the Pjm's who order since the day its released BUT UNTIL NOW the company NEVER SHIP ? i wont mention Armys anymore coz when it talks about Jimin's albums ONLY PJM's feels how the company tried so hard to Block jimin's sells.
Oh really???? Jungkook has been credited wrongly so many times...Even, recently he had crediting issues with his live performances...They were not credited to his name...Do you think he "asked" the company to do so...If we start counting like this, every member faced some or the other issues, it is not just about your bias...Jimin works with in house producers...He works with people of HYBE- Pdogg, Lumpens...If he was being mistreated, why would he work with them??
@@sm2160the company REMOVED JIMIN'S name on credit in his own written song , that time when jungkook released Seven. did i said about jk's credit on his song? do you understand my comments? i said it happened when jk released his Seven BECAUSE thats what really happened... they removed jimin's name for 2days .. and PJm's never stop calling HYBE for what they did. thats why they credit Jimin back.
I think the one thing that the company could clear up are the resources given to the members- for example were they all provided same budget for their projects? And then each member given their own discretion to spend the resources?
I think that's between them and the company we know that certain members also used their own money as they were in charge of their own solo careers. There's always going to be a cut off point when it come's to the budget and if any member wants to do something that will go past that budget they have a choice to adapt what they are doing, or use some of their own money for the short fall or just not do everything they planned. It's all part of process of growing within the Music Business. I bet each member learnt a hell of lot doing things themselves with assistance and advice when they asked for it. More power to them. (edited due to bad grammar and spelling errors. sorry)
BTS resigned w/ Bighit bec they CHOSE TO..each member has their own Attorney & they negotiated a new contract on THEIR TERMS. OBVIOUSLY, they GOT WHAT THEY ASKED FOR…smartly, by staying w/ Bighit & NOT joining Americian music companies BTS felt they had the MOST CONTROL of their music , money opportunities & career direction. BTS SMARTLY REALIZE they must tour & make money as soon as all members complete military obligations…they worked so hard for 10+ years & 💯 DESERVE TO CASH IN…& not foolishly sign w/ an Americian Company who will “promise” them world wide fame & not have the career control or money opportunities that Bighit can offer..in America they will just be another Artist in their company…,Americian companies make the BIG MONEY..& their Artist struggle to cash in & get what they deserve. I’m 💯in SUPPORT of BTS touring in 2025 & earning what they so rightly DESERVE! & at the same time giving devoted Army what they wish for🫶🏼💜
Fairlane and all Army another insightful & objective analysis that makes us understand and appreciate BTS - OT7 even more. very good comments too from Army.. real true Army!💜 We have 1.5 years till they all return (Jin & Jhope returning sooner) so the guys are doing so much now to continue “ to be in touch with us” while they are away. But please lets remember to give them personal break to enjoy themselves and be with their families during the remaining time before they all enter military. FAIRLANE- Galing mo talaga💜 Borahae
I agree with some of it but why can't just Big Hit clarify the issues for the fans?? Why choose to ignore them?? Like a simple statements or clarifications will do, but why can't they do it?
@@nicoleloss7987 I'm just someone with concerns. Let's just say that BTS are in control but that's not the main point, why are the company not doing anything to clear the misunderstandings?
I just think simple, the real situation only related parties know, and it's always guard by confidentiality agreement that very tight closed only for their eyes. Looking into, each member Solo activity, we can see the different format how many songs, album or mini album, photoshoots and it's format/theme also location, producers involved and teams ( designers, dancers, stage, illustrators, visual concept etc), composers, musicians, video team and so on. Except Jin the first who went enlistment in short time, only launching single one song. Perhaps when completed his training, will prepare his Solo Album. Hobi and Sugar launched perhaps most completed versions they have created many their own composed songs, Solo show Hobi in Lolapalozza while Suga in USA and parts of Asia as well in Seoul. RM launched Indigo with many collabs. JiMin broke BB charts follow by JK. V with different genre captured worldwide taste of listeners. JK launching English based songs to penetrate US market. From what happened, obviously, the format of each member project were different, as each one taste and preferences different. Each member and main producer discussed the whole related project which they were tight negotiations. Because they concern relating to the cost as well as the end of sharing profits. If the artist want certain format which cost very expensive, means also his profits portion will be affected as well the main producers. We can also see the package content of the Album, maybe related too. So we cannot straight forward said, the different was affected mainly because of the mistreated to members, only members and the content of the contracts that can speak, if any. Envy all Members, Producers and Teams how they prepared, worked so great in limited time, extensive hours, I never seen such Group of people simultaneously launched 7 members projects in one year period. 💜
Some so call OT7 Army kept saying BTS said that they have full control over their solo projects & that BTS wouldn’t have renewed their contract if they are not happy. How naive are you? Don’t you see? They have to say it to make it seems everything is OK for their fans because any member speaks about mistreatment or unfairness? That will be the end of BTS because it will bring huge chaos to BTS fandoms & that will definitely make each BTS members talk about their grievances & unhappy feelings they have kept hidden towards each others including towards Hybe, which means starting of fight among BTS members & Hybe. Have you not seen disbanding of other idol group or bands? If any of the member decided to not sign with Hybe, Or decided to walk away, that will be the end of BTS because Hybe has the right to the idol group name ‘BTS’ & its brand & they will never let BTS members to walk away from them while using ‘BTS’ name! Look what happened with famous SM idol group ‘DongBangSinGi’ or ‘Black Pink’ right now! The fact is that Hybe is holding idol brand name BTS as their hostage & all the BTS members who love to be working together as the BTS member & their beloved Army as their fans will keep their mouth shut as long as they can bare it! For BTS members, it is better to have some then none! Also Hybe in Korea is already super mega entertainment & music company with mighty power! And even though each BTS members has many fans under their wing, weight of Hybe is too heavy burden for them to fight & fly as solo against Hybe! That is why they would never say anything negative! That is why it is We, fan’s job to help correct any Hybe’s mistake & mismanagement behalf of our beloved idol, BTS & make sure Hybe to treat them fairly!
Two members of the same group achieved the same record. One gets the reward, one doesn't. Why? Simply why. It shouldn't be that hard to answer. When companies act like this can you blame people for speculating. Armies got too sensitive to solos (which i understand they really cause problems), they reject everything they have been saying without questioning. Beefing with solos become the priority for so many. There are certain things going on for sure but i feel like some armies ignoring it just to disagree with solos.
I know but just to stop people like us who are right to say out loud their opinions, some so called fake fans are targeting us to stop us which is ridiculous because they never said anything to real haters and shippers when they are destroying a member everywhere. They want to called themselves righteous by fight with genuine people rather than real haters . But they're hypocrites and they can't change themselves. 🤷 But I 100% agree with you . 👏👏💯🥰
"Jimin of BTS earned a platinum certification from the Recording Industry Association of America with “Like Crazy,” label Big Hit Music said Friday. “Like Crazy” is the only solo single from a K-pop musician to surpass 1 million unit sales in the US this year and hit the milestone in record time for a K-pop solo act at 155 days." The Korea herald. This is something I found while searching for Jimin's platinum certification. If he got why are people complaining.
@@den28mom-ue2jgJimin achieved the platinum certification in August, but the label has to buy the certification plaque. Seven achieved the certification after Like Crazy but the label bought that one first.
@@den28mom-ue2jg Just a point of clarification. Jung Kook received certification and is listed on the RIAA website as receiving certification on November 6, 2023. As of November 16, 2023 @11:10 PM EST Jimin is not listed on the website as receiving certification. TXT is listed, Stray Kids and of course the numerous BTS songs that sold 1 million copies.
As I watch your new content I am also dropping back to look at older content. Being a scientist and an instructor I so much appreciate your logical approach to content. I don't think BigHit is perfect... but I think they are the right place for BTS. I think sometimes we forget that compared to other labels it's still young. They've grown super fast and that comes with growing pains. They are also following their own path... one that is as new as the label itself. And YES because it is new and untested BigHit needs feedback. Even if decisions originate with the artists, there needs to be feedback. If you are in the middle of a rainforest and trying to cut a path... you have no idea if you are really going the wrong direction. BTS themselves have expressed that they WANT their work to be for the fans... so without feedback how can they adjust? Yes they know us better than most artists know their fandom.... but we (as they) evolve as well. 💜
You know if Jimin's second album will be gatekeeped again, you, army, will have literally 0 reason to talk shit about PJMs ever again. And I know that they already will push JK only, because of that shitty article that gaslighted people to think that "youngest from group is always huge pop star"(it was on Weverse, mind you, in this same THEIR platform there they shaded Jimin with reference as "partial success" and at the same time they praised white racist). They had one job, to be fair and not arrogant, but HYBE choose to split armies and think they can do such things without punishment. That's typical " big company" syndrome, I saw this shit in different industries before, there was never a good ending for such arrogant companies. Also, that "removing k from kpop" will end up not good either. HYBE is looking not promising at all and it's completely fine to say that you are not satisfied, because for them we all are clients, we are money for them, we have right to speak when our rights are restricted. HYBE is not about "artists for healing" and for a long time now.
What. You do know that all 7bts members are shareholders in hybe. Hitman gave all 7bts members control over their own solo. They decided their own promotion and who they work with. Bighit and hybe fund their projects and made the deals for them. All 7 bts members have business degrees. And all 7 bts members have their own private legal teams that negotiate with their company about their contract.
@@nicoleloss7987 You do know that I listened to this shit like 1000th times in Twitter? Don't embarrassing yourself pls. And their amount of shares is not that big even as 7 together. Voting power is really low per member + there was info (from HYBE's financial report), that their voting shares currently on 0. There was also Netmarble, that sold like 2.5 million shares and info about them in that report same as from news about this transaction. Papa Bang still decides everything. Also because of him, most likely we will not see any Korean lyrics soon and everything will be as generic as American pop music. And guess what? BTS will do it, doesn't matter if they like it or not. HYBE needs money and further extension of company, they need to feed their investors (of course with charts results). Btw HYBE's stocks are shit now and for months. They completely lost positive impact from Jimin's solo debut. Sadly, Jimin and PJMs will give these mfs boost again... Damn, I hate this company.
I agree with most of what you said but I don’t think it’s right to demand anything , I feel you can ask big hit but to demand like your there boss to me is wrong . And yes all these solo fans ,y’all need to remember BTS has formed such a tight bother-hood , why are y’all trying to put them against each other .they will not like that at all . What you SOLO-fans should like is the fact they no matter what they will support each other during their solo projects . also if you don’t like the other six members fine but keep your negative mean ,immature comments to your self . You can have bias and still be respectful 💜🙂
I think what Hybe & BangPD’s ultimate goal at the moment is not earning more money( yes, their basic goal will always be more money but to keep on earning more money, they have to grow, expand & build more power in global music markets including US & that is why Hybe is keep on buying new music labels from US & expanding their company) but more likely solidifying their(aka. Kpop) permanent place & power in US music market & they are using Scooter’s connections, knowhow & power, combined with JK’s popularity(let’s face it! He is the most popular member of BTS closely followed by Jimin & V & that was how Hybe was kept on planning & aiming BTS from the beginning!)& his talents, making him a huge mega star, like Michael Jackson, to achieve their ultimate goal, to solidifying their place in US music market! And their first goal was to win the title of ‘The first Korean solo singer to win No.1 billboard hot 100 chart’ which is really monumentally historical title. However, unexpectedly Jimin & his brilliant first solo album’s title song ‘Like Crazy’ has took that title from them & from that on many title’s & records that they were planning to get with JK, was often competed with Jimin & his song ‘Like Crazy’. That is why Hybe is trying to minimize any effect that Jimin & ‘Like Crazy’ is making, that means ironically Hybe is fighting with Army fans, mostly Jimin bias fans & their actions has turning many of ARMY into Jimin solo fans because of their mistreatment towards Jimin. I think as long as this ‘obsession of Bang PD, Scooter & Hybe(along with JK ambition)which is making JK as ’ exists, no other BTS members would get the full fair support(same as JK) from Hybe in their solo career & they might even receive some kinds of unexplainable mismanagement in their future.
If you were right, then all other six members deserved to be used and abused for being right down stupid what else could they be when they signed contracts with the label that is abusing, ignoring and despising them. All six victims for sure had the pick of the crop from the largest global conglomerates, not just from Asian, but from the West Remember that by the time they signed, everyone knew ARMY and their corresponding niche music markets was with them But well, seems that their 10+ yrs of experience in one of the toughest music industries, plus the learning with top global producers, plus their MAs in arts management, have all been wasted on those six victims They so much needed you, and the likes of you, to manage their affairs.🤡🤡🤡
I love them all but JiMin is my bias. I just can’t help it. I can identify with so many things he says. Thank you for providing insight into your culture.
I notice Suga have 8 to 10 bodyguards at airport I suspect he get a lot of death threats but he don't want army to worry so he keep it quiet. JK can't have enough bodyguards to protect him, he have hundreds of idiots trying to trample him, another strategy is needed to protect him.
It's 100% proven that the company separated Like Crazy because it's right in Spotify's Artist FAQ that ONLY the company can change the credits of a song. Like Crazy two versions were WRONGFULLY separated by someone removing Ghstloop's producer credit on one version. As soon as Spotify updated and the versions separated Ghstloop's credit was fixed. Shakira's English and Spanish songs are combined when they have the same musical arrangement, same writing credits and same song length. Hybe separated the versions because Jungkook solo stans were trending hate hashtags and spreading vile SA type attacks against Jimin. I stopped the video when I got to 5 minutes in because I'm FURIOUS. I normally like your videos but this is NOT it. Anyone who has worked hard to support Jimin has actually been traumatized by everything that happened and the fandom gaslighting on top of it is so gross.
Every kpop song that has a Korean version/English version or even a Japanese version of a Korean song the streams are separated. It's not just Jimin. I don't know why Shakira's streams aren't separated.
I hope the new contract gives additional stock options ( I’m sure that would be the case), the quickest way to break up BTS is to pit one member against each other, most other groups have split up because one or more members were elevated above the others. I can only imagine how hard it is for individual members to see/hear their much loved “brother” be criticised unfairly by fans in their name. Thank you for being the voice of reason
I am only going to share the releif I feel that having social media accounts and/or interacting on social media is not a requirement to be an ARMY. A person can love and support (and grow their understanding of) BTS without subjecting themselves to this level of emotional torture.
I think it's doesn't make any sense to argue or hate members. It doesn't make sense. It's divisive and serves no purpose. It's wrong. We also need to understand that because BTS are family they can say and do things that we on the outside looking in may find objectionable. However, families say and do the wrong thing all the time, then they forgive, makeup or don't think it's a big deal. Why? Because we're family. The fans forget that. Fan on fan fights within and outside the fandom, is a whole other topic and makes me tired just thinking about it.
J-Hope not releasing a hard disk is because of the pressure the industry is putting on everyone to go green, but it also feeds the subscription music corporation. Eventually, I think Weverse will become it's own Spotify~music platform. They are compiling their catalog which will make it appealing for more artists to just join and host their music there. Philip de Franco posted something recently and specifically called out BTS and ARMY with the waste of albums and the complaints of how it harms the environment.
That’s so true, some ARMYS think they are so intelligent, smart that they know everything that they always make conclusions , make comments as if they know everything what’s going on within HYBE, BigHit and what the artists really want to happen or their plans with their careers.
So army tends to repeat the mantra that each member chooses his own promotion; army ignores that the budget for jk is more than the rest of the members combined. And i guess jk chose to have multiple versions and remixes and PAID TTH listing the minute his singles are released - i wonder how much the instant TTH no. 1 cost for SNTY
@g.s.7 Hi, I believe that the reason JK had a greater promotion budget was because for 'Seven' and 'Golden' he didn't work for HYBE Korea - he worked for HYBE America, and these are two different companies. HYBE Korea was not the label for the recent work of JK, so cannot be blamed for any promotion efforts, or lack of. I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong.
I don't think it's unrealistic to believe that management has favorites or a favorite. I mean, come on. That's like saying parents don't have a favorite child, or you don't have a favorite cousin, sibling, aunt, or uncle. Do I know that it is the case, no? But when people act like it's an impossibility, it just makes me roll my eyes. I think a lot of the promotion choices are artist choice, but like Geffen, not giving Jimin the same attention as others is shady to me. But for all I know, Jimin was like, "Please do not advertise my single. I also do not want to have pre-orders or sufficient notice. Do not restock LC cds." It's possible.
BigHit just revealed an impressive new brand logo, not for BTS, but for one of the seven members. Look at BTS's YT channel BANGTANTV and compare the playlists for the members' solo projects. BH produced more content for JK's single Seven than for the other members' entire albums. Honestly, the question is not whether BigHit promotes one member more aggressively than the others, but why--and how ARMY should respond.
Maybe because it is a grand project. No matter what promotion they'll get, no album will have the same results as golden (it's is a mainstream album). So they decided to invest in what will give better results and money. And it is how it should work, because in the end this results bring attention to the whole group and to every solo album in a way.
Because Jk wants to be a giant pop star and we don’t get radio play much. That’s payola and BTs doesn’t do that. Not even seven got played a lot … so we know that we need these versions of seven to buy to make up for the radio play so the sing charts high. JK and now Jimins music is made for western charts to chart high. Cause that what they wanna do. Pop music in English will always get more attention than Korean rap songs or a jazz album. Why can’t you trust the members? Jk sits down with his people and discusses plans and the rest do that too. They each have their own visions. It’s not a catalog Hybe gives them and they check boxes with that they want. They plan stuff on their own and come up with ideas. So let them try things out.
Some of the media was created by Big Hit…they know a fan that’s unhappy or feels someone in BTS is treated unfairly, especially their bias, will keep Armies engaged, pushing activity on social media and that increases streams and visibility for the members as well as pushing sales and pushing their music farther up the charts. Some of it is a tactic. The amount of talk about this member being treated unfair or that member getting the shaft due to whatever reason has been a hot topic for months…now I’m not saying these guys didn’t achieve their solo success all on their own because they did….but just know that some of the subject matter is Big Hit driven which in turn pushes the Armies to get out there and support as much as possible.
I’m sure they have multiple meetings with each member to discuss the vision for their projects and ultimate goals the member wants to achieve and based on that they figure out a plan (together) to achieve that. Every member doesn’t want the same thing. Why would the company risk favoring members over the next and jeopardize the trust and respect they have with each member and potentially hurt the team and hurt their pockets. People need to think critically instead of emotionally. Stop with the unnecessary negativity and work harder as fans to make sure we support each member equally. Cause if anyone in this equation shows favoritism it’s people within the fandom.
Memener cannot promote the staff is just as imcompatant as the company itself. Kook music is not even his own het just does his dances to the songs which is heartsore he does not realize how he is being used for opening doors for Bighit. We'll looking at Bighit pity
I agree with you. I am a BTS ARMY and find it difficult to pick a favorite member. I choose all 7 as my bias. As far as the extent those armies went to picket Hybe disturbs me. There are other ways to lodge your complaints if necessary. Until those people work within the company to understand what’s going on they have no complaint. Certainly in the manner they did. It certainly shows that they don’t have faith in Jimin (or any other member) to be intelligent enough to address issues if he feels slighted. The guys signed another contract. If they weren’t happy they wouldn’t have done that. People, give these guys credit to know what they want to do/ or not do for their future career. Save your money spent on renting buses to donate to a food bank etc. I’m sure Jimin would be proud of that instead of embarrassed at such a public display. Complain if you want through an email or letters. Thank you .
The fact that Pjms held many Jimin birthday projects which included blood donation camp and donated food and groceries too of which Jimin knows and he is proud too like he himself supports the act of donation and by doing so he has proved it multiple times..... We have faith in our angel jimin but we don't believe the company... like Why didn't they still applied for RIAA platinum certification when the song was eligible for the award by August itself Why didn't they still restocked like crazy single CDs (of which fans were asking for past 7 months ) Why suddenly did they removed his name from writing credits of his own song ( and they added back after two days... like what) These were the request his fans were talking about... Aren't you an ot7... don't you love all 7 of them... then will you be happy if even one of them is given unfair treatment... pjms are calling out the company for unfair treatment but ot7 can't do so...why?
@@AditiShandilya-d7j I hear you but I personally believe that is a question that needs to be addressed with Jimin and probably has been. It’s a challenging business. I have family in that business and decisions don’t always make sense to me. I am a fan of all 7 members and have been for a while. I just feel that the members have attorneys to handle things if a member feels mistreated. They don’t need me to do that nor do I need to know why Hybe made those decisions. I do appreciate the passion just not the way the fans went about it. Thanks for all the philanthropic activities done on behalf of BTS including of Jimin. I have been so amazed at what has been done. I just don’t think this event was helpful. Take care….
Target markets are different for the different members. If they all had the promotion tactic's it wouldn't work for each member. Each member did extremely well in their different genres. Do we believe Spotify we know they are always doing strange things and lieing to people then making up lame excuses when they get court out.
While others saw joy and good news in the world Leave it to people trying to spread their trifling, negative .views. ..stop with all your crazy speculations,.this question is well answered during sugar talk show with JK & V when they shared their own plans on how to come up with songs , they aprove each and every song/genre they choose, they choose when and how to release their music so we know their all smart and very well spoken and can speak up for themselves and they know all they have todo is taje their grievances to the fans to get changes they want... No, it's not the army's right to be disruptive each time their favorite does not do well as they like.. am OT7 so surport them on all projects but don't hate some who are more liked by the public.. STOP IT !!
Stop it. You don't know anything and you have no right to decide who can talk and what they can say. And if you had LISTENED to her talk, you would have heard about the difference between promotion planning and course correction after the fact. Two different things. And Big Hit needs to identify problems after the fact and fix them so no one sees unnecessary divisions that could have been quickly healed if management and staff had been professional enough to recognize an issue, fix it, and figure how who was to blame and what to do next -- no one wants to keep having the same problems crop up time after time. And ARMY -- whose money finances much of this work and the people -- has a right to help Big Hit do better as long as they treat everyone fairly. Quit being "a tool."
A member’s success is Big Hit’s success. Any promotion they do for their members will make more money for them. Why wouldn’t they want to do that? I believe it is each member’s choice to do what they want to do for their promotions.
Hybe had interested in harming Jimin solo bc they just wanted JK to be the one with the achivements since Jimin solo album wasnt handled by Hybe America like JK solo album. One thing is promo and another not having just single being restocked or having your song certificated after selling 1M and saving the certification for another member
What. All companies want to make money not lose money. You do know that all 7 bts members are shareholders in hybe. And all 7 bts members have business degrees. They all have control over their own solo. They decided their own promotion and who they work with. All 7 bts members hired their own legal teams that negotiate with their company. Hybe has no control over when albums or songs get certified. Hybe has no control over shipping. All cds and merchandise are made by tree factory. And distributors by ygplus and geffin records. You can buy jimin cd from any store or online
Bighit is busy going down due to his preferences. It's too late for him to open his eyes. VBTS is a threat to him he gonna go down quicker than he thinks. Why has he not done to VBTS what he has done to the others. JUNGKOOK is being used he does not realize it. He is opening doors for BIGSHIT not for himself he has choices. Where is RM leader of the pack man up RM is that not what a leader is for.
I have a request it is being reported that V/Kim Taehyung is now the richest member of BTS with $40 million, jumping over all other members? I see him reported to have $20 million, this is a crazy jump even with his many brand endorsements? What is true and what is solo stan fan promotion?
i think it is what Hybe deem good and what will sell well. they knew that v´s album would do well in asia mostly because they have the numbers and maybe most people who follow V are from asia who knows. but also the sound of the songs. i have to be real V´s album was my least favorite of all of the members. it´s V´s album so yes i still like it for what it is, but the songs is not my style at all. second is the rappers and i belive like you said that it´s very heard to get listeners because rap is meant to be heard it´s not about the music it´s more about the lyrics and flow. so that is just understandable. and they did go all out for J-hope even if he might not sell as well as vocalists. and for Suga he did almost everything he did a whole tour. they had faith that he alone could sell out a tour. and he did he even added more. and then we have Jimin and Jk who is the most likely to get high streams and sales in the US because of the music. Jimin has one mainstream song and a very popular kpop song all i one album. and alot of gems on the album too. jk is the biggest star of BTS at least hybe see his potential for going global. he has the confidence, he has the manly astatic fitting in the western world. and he sings and performas amazing and he can nail english songs so well. and he chose to get songs who is more than willing to give it to him. all songs was good and they wanted him to be the golden star. they want to break into the US even more than they already did and jk was the ticket. it´s not about witch memeber is the best. it´s about what will sell more. that is the Lables main goal.
Yeah, the company thought Jk was the ticket, in other words favoritism. They didn't count on Jimin being the first member and Asian to get #1 on the Billboard......they wanted that for Jk, thus the start of the sabotage which was right in Army's face. Those who choose to believe otherwise can stay in their hivemind. The rest of us will continue to call foul. Also, this has nothing to do with hating another members success or competition between them. This is strictly about the companies sabotage towards a certain member......yes in spite of their sabotage Jimin still has enormous success in his first album. All fans are asking for is restocking his album and submit his RIAA platinum certificate, like they did for Jk and V, Jimin earned it way back in August.
YOU TALK>>>>>>>> THEY ARE NOT TREATED EQUALLY THE COMPANY IS RESPONSIBLE DOES HE EVER THINK WHAT THE MEMBERS FEEL LIKE> DON'T TALK CRAB MR BANG WAS AGAINST V ALL ALONG IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT MUSIC HE JUST HATES V MAYBE IT HAS TO DO WITH BARAHAR SO WHY HE HAS BEEN PROMOTING ONE MEMBER ALL ALONG. MR BANG SHOULD HAVE SPENT TIME WITH ALL ARTISTS EQUALLY. ARE YOU HAPPY MR BANG WITH ALL THE MONEY YOU MADE FROM V WITHOUT SPENDING A PENNY YOU ONLY WANTED YOUR FAVOURITE TO SUCCEED GOOD LUCK TO BOTH OF YOU IN AMERICA WITH HIM AND HIS COLLABORATIONS BUT YOU COULD HAVE DONE THE SAME FOR V> YOU AND OTHERS SHOULD BE WONDERING HOW V LOOKS AT THINGS MENTALLY WOULD YOU LIKE IT V MAY MAKE OUT HE IS OKAY BUT THAT COULD DESTROY PEOPLE> ONE PERSON IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SING AND DANCE DON't FORGET YOU SENT HIM TO AMERICA TO LEARN BEFORE DEBUT. V IS ALL HIS.OWN.
BTS asked us the trust them and I do. I trust their decisions regarding their solo works and how it is rolled out. i also trust that if they are not happy with they way something is being handled, they are grown adult men who did not get this far in their careers by being silent. Everyone does not have the same goals and aspirations. we should respect that and enjoy and support what they give us and not try to impose our wants on them. Trust BTS. It's that simple.
No. All 7 bts members have control over their own solo. They decided their own promotion. And they have said this many times. All 7 bts members are shareholders in hybe. Fans need stop. All 7 bts members are grown man with business degrees. And all 7 bts members hired their own legal teams to negotiate their contract with bighit/ hybe
I watched a video from BoraCity where it was explained the way of each member's promotional strategies along with their target market and that's probably the reason why they have different way of promoting it and such. Also, they have different genres which should really be targeting the right people. I think it's very important to respect each member and don't drag them down. I mean, most people have their bias but it doesn't mean we're gonna throw hate to other members. They don't deserve it. If you'll think about it, each of them love each other and as she mentioned, they will not wish any harm to anyone. I hope at this point, solo stans can also respect that. It's okay to voice out your ideas/comments but don't drag others down. BTS members are smart people and I think they have their liberty to do what they want and how they want on their solo albums. Each member's success is the group success. Instead of attacking other members, why not support them as well. At the end of the day, they all belong in one group and they are family. I think BTS will appreciate ARMY even more during their Solo era. Just my two cents. #Apobangpo #Borahae Thank you for this video.
JHope's situation and Jimin's are totally different. Hobbie was experimenting, and you can tell he wanted his music to stay relevant even during the time he was gone. It was actually an innovative move on his part. Because the fans weren't aware of the reasons for it they were confused. His decision keeps his music alive while he was gone, and he had the members help promote his album. Jimin's situation was completely different. How would splitting the songs help Jimin in any way? It wouldn't. Who would make that kind of decision after the song was combined initially, thereby being on the losing end? That is not logical, and to ask someone to think it is doesn't make any kind of sense to me. This is about business, after LC did so well on the charts, who in their right mind would call that a good business decision? I don't see how the integrity of Jimin's work was compromised in the song being in English, especially since Jimin would have been the very one to approve of it. I'm sorry that reasoning doesn't make any sense.
I 100% agree with you, but these fake fans or so called righteous people think that they know everything personally and targeting every single person who are raising right and reasonable questions. Atleast the world knows though and I'm happy with that fact. I know they said ridiculous things to shut that person down because by questioning all these things , it hurts their ego. I also don't think for all these things still happening to him doesn't make any sense to me at all. This year , more than half of the Army's true colours are shown. Toxic and fake OT7 and fake Army's and solo stans ,shippers are exposed. It's so heartbreaking but Army is destroyed. And I'm seeing this in every reactions and comment sections and by reactors banning BTS reactions because of fandom. It's just that when people are ranking most toxic fandoms, everyone is putting down Army as no.1 and sadly it's a fact. And I not consider myself as an Army in that kind of fandom ,atleast not right now. Maybe when BTS are together in 2025 , the vibes would be happy and respectful just like in 2017-19 . I just hope we have a fandom cleaning and the trash would be out by then. 🥺💞🧡❤️
well... if you do a split you can sell it as it's own song and you have more different songs to sell aka. you can sell more albums - because you do not actually have to sell all songs of an album to count as a full album sale.
And that is if Big Hit made the decision to split.
The possibility is - as some mentioned - that it was decided by Billboard/Spotify themselves to sabotage charting.
Around the same time Army protested Post Malone had a simlar issue with one of his songs. I remember that because his father added to Army's protest.
Nevermind that Spotify seems to have somehow gotten the idea that the Englsih version had different songwritters (I think it was either one person more or one person less) than the Korean version and therefore used this to declare this a different song.
Spotify has more than once messed up credits from BTS members. I think there is another artist also named Suga that somehoe got credited a song by our Suga - and that is on Spotify.
Do I trust their claim that it was Big Hit's decision?
No. It is possible but ultimetly I do not believe them.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I liked boracity magazine's video essay on the topic better.
I'm only halfway thru the vid but I wanted to point out a couple things that I think are important to take into account. Each member is different and amazing in their own way. In personality and musical interests/tastes and goals. I firmly believe each member individually CHOSE the direction of their solos and the promotion activities etc. Based on their personality differences I just stated. Jk has always stated he wants to be a huge pop star. I believe BigHit/HYBE helped him promote and produce accordingly. But that isn't necessarily what the other members are going for and that's perfectly fine. Suga had the catalog to support a whole successful world tour. RM knew from the start that he wasn't making an album for huge sales and record setting international recognition but it was amazing and personal to him and he chose to do a smaller show at a venue that was meaningful to him when he was young and dreaming of the future. Jin didn't have as much time to put things together before he went to military so I think when he gets home we will get more from him which I'm def excited about, also. Jimin is notoriously shy and I think that's why he didn't do as many interviews etc but let's be honest, Face was an amazing album with a crazy good reception world wide. I don't think they would spare any expense if he wanted to do a vid for each song. I know he mentioned it once but he may have changed his mind for any number of reasons. And that is perfectly fine. JHope went with a whole new concept which turned out to be amazing as well and Lollapalooza and his collab with J Cole was a dream he had since childhood. V did an album which he knew going into it was in a very niche genre but he did great promotions and interviews and performances that were so cool and appropriate.
I'm sure it is extremely uncomfortable for them when so called fans try to victimize them and pit them against each other and against the company that has not only supported them but think about it... BTS built BigHit. Literally from the ground up. I'm pretty positive they have absolute ability and authority to do whatever they want whenever they want at this point. As it should be. Those boys are not only carrying the company on their backs, they are basically carrying the country on their backs at this point. The pressure must be immense. I can't even imagine. Victimizing them and acting like they are being mistreated by the company they built is silly and probably hurtful to them.
I think solo stans are the ones pushing this issue. It's ok to have a favorite but not one single member would EVER condone or appreciate anyone talking down about any other member who they see as their brothers. This really needs to stop. They have been asking army to trust them since they started 10 years ago. Trust your idol. The fact they resigned their contract so early should have put all this talk to bed because that is proof right there that they are HAPPY and supported by each other and their company. Which, if you are truly army should make you happy for them and excited about the future! Best is yet to come 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
This! Is my exact thought. You just put it more eloquently into words!
Wow, perfect comment ! I feel exactly the same 💜
thank u man
100%
💜💜💜OT7.
Thank you so much for addressing my question to you. This is the 2nd time I have requested you post a video on a subject and I think you hit the nail on the head in both posts. You made some excellent points on both sides of this issue around the topic of favoritism and sabotage. I really liked your points about constructive vs. destructive criticism. I have argued this issue on a couple of sites that the company is not sabotaging the members but acknowledge their were mistakes made by the company. However, the members also had agency in the decisions made regarding their albums and promotions. I had many people agree with me, but also many call me a company Stan. Jimin is my bias and the reason I became Army. I think there were a lot of issues with the support of his album but not outright sabotage.
We don’t have the same level of outrage for the Hyung line issues that fans (Army, solo, shippers, etc) have for the members of the maknae line. I agree we the fans need to hold the company accountable, but to do so in a constructive manner that does not taint or victimize the artists we love. Just one thing regarding the number of music videos for Jimin. Some people don’t take into account the cost of Jimin’s videos compared to other members, especially at that time. They literally built the set of SMF pt 2. One industry producer estimated the cost of that video to be over $1 million. Way more than videos by the others at that point. Also, fans did not know at the time that Jimin was putting out additional music or maybe evan another album before enlistment with music video(s). The two projects combined could possibly exceed the cost of the other members. We just don’t know. Suga’s tour made a lot of money, but the US leg was subsidized by the NBA.
I think good lessons were learned (unfortunately at Jimin’s expense) on how to better support solo releases based on how well he did. I don’t think anyone expected Jimin to do as well as he did with such a personal project. Anyway, enough said as I could write an essay, but just wanted to thank you again. Have to send you my next topic soon. 😏💜💜
Wow, I didn’t know that the NBA subsidized Suga’s tour, that’s really cool.
I wanna have friends who have an interesting point of view about this topic. If you'd like, could you share your twitter account?
Thank you...💜💜💜
Si desafortunadamente fue Jimin, con el que se tuvo que aprender a base de acierto- error. Es interesante la visión que tienes y se agradece desde una postura objetiva, Jimin es un profesional y cuando va a realizar algún proyecto siempre tiene en mente que sea de experiencia. Por qué lo dijo, porque en el libro hay una parte donde se comenta que el sugirió que se realizarán cambios en como se presentaban los conciertos, y que ARMI saliera satisfecha de ver un espectáculo de primera.
Hay situaciones que no podemos entender, en cómo se fueron desarrollando cada uno de los lanzamientos. En realidad el de Jimin y Yoongi cadí fueron muy juntos.pero bueno. Eso les dejo puntos a trabajar y experiencia.
Yo como fans de Jimin, también aprendí a respetar aunque no esté de acuerdo en algunas situaciones. Se que para Jimin BTS es familia. Él es un Ser agradecido no tonto. También el no nos puede compartir todo y se respeta, principalmente su vida privada.
Tengo 59 años, nunca había admirado a un artista como a Jimin. Me cautivó desde que lo vi danzar y cantar: fue una conexión instantánea, y dije WOOW. Soy Psicomotricista, para mí él movimiento corporal es una fuente de expresión muy grande y Jimin cumple con estándares muy altos cuando lo vemos bailar es un deleite, te puede contar una historia con cada movimiento y ejecución en un espacio: a un ritmo y tiempo meramente bello.
Desearía, que pudieras compartirme: porque tanto odio hacia él, desde donde surge , los heters le dan con todo, aunque el no haga nada para merecerlo.
Te agradezco
@@nanamishita9048 it is the same as my screen name without the 509. However, I don't really post on twitter. I just use it to stay abreast of what people are saying.
I appreciate this video - very clear and concise. However, Perception is Reality. The current 'perception' is that there is a favorite between two artists doing almost the exact same thing. I understand that everything they do is a CHOICE. I can't wrap my head around why Jimin would CHOOSE to not submit his work for RIAA. There are additional benefits to the artist/company for that recognition. That is just smart business. Wouldn't BigHit want that for their artist? For themselves? Even if it is only for 'bragging rights'? If anyone could help me with that, I'd greatly appreciate it.
I like your channel, but there's one thing that makes me wonder..if Jimin was the one who asked to split Like Crazy korean and english version, why didn't he do it from the start? especially if you think it's because of the meaning of the lyrics. he prepared the album for 10 months so there was no way he would miss this. Then the big question is the timing, when Like Crazy hit #1 on Global Spotify on the 3rd day, on the 4th day it was immediately split without any notification. If it's Jimin wish, he will definitely confirm like what JHope did. but till now he never said anything. he just said that he asked mv for all the song but being declined and he felt the promotion too short..imagine prepared your album for 10 months just to get promotion for 9 days 😢and for you who said jimin is an adult and smart man, you right but every job have contract especially an idol, and ofc it will benefit the comp than artist. that's why they can't blatantly said how they felt. i'm not jimin manager, but even common people can think with logic.
Jimin has always been sweet naughty kind but his does have feelings I have watched dance practice videos music videos when I started watching I first notice rm then Jimin his stye is on point he reminds me of Michael Jackson prince he just shines even if he put in the back it makes no difference where he where he stands he still stands taller with his brilliance and his talents you can't hide what everyone sees with their own two eyes they can't stop his excellent talent. I saw it with my own eyes his dancing and singing takes you to a different place a beautiful place to observe this legend in the making makes me think of when Michael Jackson first performed you could not take your eyes off of him or Prince
🐥👏👏👏
Gracias 🙏 por apreciar a este hermoso hombre. Es real a mi también me atrapó su línea de bailé y expresión. No importa donde lo coloquen él brilla por merito propio. Todos sus esfuerzos, el trabajó duro como lo llaman, yo lo llamo aprhendizaje. Él se fue construyendo y estructurando a base de error- acierto. Si bien no tuvo u maestro de canto al principio el busco las posibilidades: aunque le costaron lágrimas, él práctico hasta perfeccionarlo, que le dio experiencia. Ahora es un artista completo, su viaje lo inicio y modelo a base de vivir experiencias.
Sus movimientos son suaves, pero firmes, su expresión corporal es increíble te puede transportar al igual que oírlo cantar te puede inundar de un sin fin de emociones.💖🐥💖✨👏🙌🙏🕺💎👑🎵
@lavernecook1025 In sync with my feelings about Jimin. Even though I know very well that everyone has different tastes, I am often puzzled about why some people cannot see Jimin's brilliance. He just has that something more than other people that I can't explain. I believe they call it " jai ne se qua"? I also agree that Jm reminds Mj or Prince, much more than Jk (some people said that Jk reminds MJ). Jk to me is similar to Justin Timberlake than MJ.
@@winstaff4182It might have to do with the vocal ability. At the end of the day, Jimin does not have the vocals to be compared to Michael Jackson. His dance style is also different. Jimin leans into sensual, rounded contemporary in a way that is unique but not like MJ's cool, power sharp dances.
Even JK would have a hard time matching MJ in vocals. But JK's power and R&B hip hop dances is probably why he gets the comparison. 'Standing next to you' only made it more noticeable.
I do love Jimin's vocal tone and dance. He has his own lane in my opinion. So does JK.
I liked your point of view however I have different opinion regarding the Spotify issue because it is highly unlikely that Jimin micromanages to that extent. In such a case, he can be called an individual artist and would not require a label to manage him. Also mismanagement is evident in case of album restocks, RIAA certification and to point out the recent special talk incident as well. I know people may say it might be Jimin's decision to keep it simple however there is atleast an industry standard that needs to be followed by the management. Yes the event was a success inspite of the bad lighting and stage set up as Jimin is excellent in crowd work and shines like a star he is. I'm sure he would have certainly expressed his honest thoughts about how things can be improved at a future occasion. But these things could have been managed better. I love all the members and I'm proud of their musical achievements and it's heart warming to see their growth. Mismanagement should be called out and members should not be attacked for their musical aspirations.
What you said is sadly very true. The seemingly constant mismanagement just gives you the impression that it was intentional. And the indifference on the part of the company furthers deepened that impression. Hopefully whatever is causing this be stopped. Cuz each member deserves to be treated well.
You are so right! JIMIN'S stage for his fan meeting with ARMY, was pathetic. Lightning was horrible. The stage looked like something done in a elementary school play. Just look at Suga's and V's.
So very sad. Jimin would never complain. His presence was the best thing.
What nonsense. All 7 bts members have control over their own solo. They have stated many times that they made their own decisions about promotion. Bighit gave them all the same budget.
Some members got sponsor for their solo projects.
Hybe has no control over when albums or songs get certified.
Hybe also has no control over shipping. All hybe artist are distributed by ygplus and geffin records.
@juvelynco3956 I know guys, it's 100% truth. I know people are trying so hard to target us because they themselves knows that but it hurts their egos to admit that fact. Some fake fans are targeting us because either they are solo stans as fake OT7 fans and some are those fake fans who hate certain members to praise their biases indirectly. Not a single person gives us the right and reasonable explanation about our questions, but this fake OT7 fandom is ready to fight with us but they don't said a single sentence where the real haters and so called OT7 and solo stans just destroying any member, you can never find them there . Because they are haters too. They are solo stans too. I'm just happy that atleast the world now knows about all these things and I just pray that that's not happened again to any member. 🧡❤️🥰
@@nicoleloss7987 "BH gave them all the same budget" would you have a source for that statement?
Re certification - "Certification is not automatic; for an award to be made, the record label must first request certification." (Source Wikipedia, RIAA certification) So based on this, it wasn't done for Jimin. Of course, it could have been an oversight initially but if you request certification for one member, shouldn't that ring a bell to check which other members qualify too?
Thank you so much for your thoughts. It's hard for those of ARMY to understand that BTS love each other no matter what. They did solo careers not to spite one another but to try their hand at a solo career. Everyone of the other BTS members loves that Jungkook is doing great and they may have said to themselves "I wish I would have done this or that differently", but they have nothing but love for Jungkook and his efforts. So thank you for putting it in much better words than I ever could have. I continue to enjoy your videos.
Thank you for your comment.
I really appreciate your explanation. I definitely agree with your thoughts. We can never be subjective to things that we don't really know much. It is also unfair to keep accusing a BTS member/members or Hybe if an individual project does not fair well compared to others. Hope that some ARMYs reserve the right of BTS member to decide on how they conduct their projects. Respect individual differences. All of them are talented, that's undeniable. Each of them has also his own degree of perfection and motivation.
This is a very important topic. I think it's important to the continuing success of BTS as a group (ie Chap 2 and beyond).
I have only seen BTS in concert via online streaming, but it gave me a chance to see the types of comments that ARMYs make. For the most part the experience is heartwarming but there have been some who seem a bit toxic in their comments / attitude. Personally, I think it might have to do with a lack of maturity (ie in thinking not necessarily age ony), so I'm hoping that as the BTS members continue to grow and mature, the fandom's culture does as a whole, as well.
Your constructive criticism questions are all on target. Best set of questions I have heard and zeros in on the real issues.
And the stage they gave jimin for his fanmeeting was a whole joke?? And jimin didnt understand what was happening and people are like " maybe he wanted it" like are you for real
They have chosen just to close their eyes and ears and believe that everything around them is completely fair and absolutely fine... and if we call out for the same we are tagged as toxic solo ...
exactly!!! how does that make you a solo to want a nice stage for the members? or given proper respect and not giving like crazy the certification it shouldve gotten long ago, even non fans of bts have noticed the insane amount of BS going on@@AditiShandilya-d7j
All 7 bts members have control over their own solo. They decided their own promotion. They have all stated it many times .
@@nicoleloss7987 They have to say it to make it seems everything is OK for their fans because any member speak about mistreatment or unfairness?
That will be the end of BTS because it will bring huge chaos to BTS fandoms & each BTS members will talk about their grievances & unhappy feelings towards each others which means fight among BTS members.
Have you not seen disbanding of other idol group?
If any of the member decided to not sign with Hybe, Or decided to walk away, that will be the end of BTS because Hybe has the right to the idol group name BTS & it’s brand & they will never let BTS members to walk away from them while using ‘BTS’ name!
Look at the Black Pink right now!
The fact is that Hybe is holding idol brand name BTS as their hostage & all the BTS members who love to be working together as the BTS member & their beloved Army as their fans will keep their mouth shut as long as they can bare it!
The members chose the ACTIVITIES they wanted to use for promotion. It's the responsibility of the STAFF to implement them in a professional, timely and effective manner. The company was negligent in many cases at best and sabotaged in other cases at worse. Period.@@nicoleloss7987
I appreciate very much the distinction you made between promotion planning and course correction after the fact. The issue isn't really about the promotion plan anymore (we all understand different members, different music, different wants); rather, it's what happens or doesn't happen after the songs and albums are released and the first results are received.
Big Hit has the responsibility to be professional in sustaining a business culture where recognizing issues before they become major problems regardless of who is at fault or made an inadvertent mistake and figuring out the next best steps are considered as positives and rewarded -- continuous learning has been proven time and time again to be essential for company growth, as it is for each of us as individuals. The last thing we need is for Big Hit and Army to never learn from failures and missteps and stay the same, never adapting, never evolving. I hope the company and all the fans can grasp this instead of essentially blaming each member and their choices as artists for what happens after their work is released to the world. My fear is if staff or anyone for that matter ends up being too prideful or afraid of repercussions from having to say that there had been a mistake that they refuse to see and understand how to do better next time. Getting smarter and evolving will also build trust with everyone who cares about BTS and its members.
Since we know that all the BTS members have degrees in entertainment business and production, I think many, if not all the members put together their plans for their solo work. I feel assured that Big Hit and Hybe will do whatever they can to make the members album plans work. From budget planning, concept, marketing, design and musical production. As stated, these young men are intelligent and artistic, but above all they are family, and they respect and live with each other. Whatever the outcome of their releases, they know it's on themselves, but they also know they'll do their very best for ARMY. That is true love. As an ARMY, I will always respect, love, and support each member's work.
Only correction is they no longer live with each other. They did for 10+ years, but that changed in 2021-2022 time frame, which they even said in FESTA 2022 dinner. Otherwise, totally agree. These members know what they are doing. It isn't all on the company, and I'm kind of sick of hearing it from solo stans. I'm sure each member has discussions within the company on what they want to achieve in their solo efforts and how to promote those efforts. When people pit the members against each other, when they themselves each love each other, I get angry even to the point of unsubscribing to some of those people. It's OK to have a bias, but it's going too far these days, and it's sad.
speaking of company WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO MAKE THE MEMBER'S ALBUM'S WORK..
So, WHY DID THEY REMOVED JIMIN's 700k sells in its first day of released?
Why did they deleted 100k sells in its 2nd week in US ???
why they NEVER RESTOCK Jimin's album ? this is WHAT PJM's everyday calling to HYBE. BUT THEY act blind and DEAF.
this are just "SOME" of Pjm's kept asking to the Company ,THEY WANT AN ANSWER .
BUT ALL THE EMAILS BEEN IGNORED.
No that not true jk say self he should have study but he don’t like school
@debhouckscraftycottage9288 I saw that typo after I pressed send. I meant to write that they Love💜 each other. Thanx for the reply; I appreciate it. 💜😁👍
@@acopitchy3951 That was Billboard not the company why would the company do that it's make no sense at all.
Long rant ahead…I apologize.
1. Yes, some things don't add up. Admittedly, some things that happened during each solo release were quite bizarre, BUT I think we lack patience as a fandom and need answers now now now (that has to stop for our own sake). I agree with you, trying to fill in blanks when we do not have information like budgeting for MVs vs backup dancers vs set design and conclude that there is mistreatment is more inflated outrage than proof. Proof is difficult. So I would call out company incompetence but can’t bring myself to call anything “willful mistreatment” without knowing all the information.
2. Vigilance, yes. But I do worry about some fans' motivation to bring up such differences/ issues with the company's strategies as merely a part of a game of "let's compare records/ numbers" to "win" idiotic verbal spats. The guys are not trying to one up each other. That has never been their narrative, so why are the fans crying and tripping over their own feet with every release and record, I will never understand. I will also never understand Kpop stans' definition of a flop, the reactionary response of calling every release a flop when all the guys broke records in their own way is simply dense. Hot 100, although impressive, is not the only chart or definition of success.
3. I also find it profoundly idiotic that people take it really personally when X member gets praised for something that the fandom as a whole deemed not a part of their personality in the 'ARMY fanmade orientation videos'. If I praise X member’s live vocals when that isn’t what they are known for/ publicized for by/ within the fandom, then you will get “corrected” or called a “diet solo” 😖. No one member is solely responsible for BTS’ favor in the world (I really dislike that stance, it is disrespectful to BTS and most of all incorrect). I am careful not to compare members in statements of praise (not that that will stop people from freely misunderstanding and getting angry *insert one giant eye roll*). I don’t care for such rhetoric and will like the songs I like, I will praise vocals, dance and rap as I want. I don’t care for arbitrary Kpop tiers.
BTS just wants to be respected by the industry and us as artists, that is their legacy, not numbers. The numbers are just a happy result. I will not trivialize their importance but if the fandom is not enjoying the music, but ONLY number chasing, I think there is a problem. I also do not worry about Weverse or Western "journalists" calling only one member the shining star or the redeemable artist of BTS or how one member should "go solo". The west has never seen a band move like BTS - members hyping and showing up at each other's solo releases, solo releases while the group is active. But the west can only view BTS through the eyes of previous boys bands so they need that narrative. I have become numb to such statements. BTS have been so loud about 2025 and how this time is to explore their musical taste. That is all. My advice to anyone struggling with the solo era rhetoric is to just listen to the music, just the music. Enjoy what the guys are presenting through lyrics, production, choreography, concerts and so on. You will fall in love with this era too. 💜
Incredibly well said. I believe everything you said is spot on.
I believe that BTS have their own exposure to what they want to do they have more freedom than other K-pop industries have for their K-pop idols. We know that BTS is bigger than K-pop we know that their global superstars each individually as well as a group!
The point here that I’m making is when you made the statement that BTS are not fans of each other I think you need to expand more on that and let me tell you why specifically here’s proof at lollapalooza when J-Hope was headlining solo, JiMin came to support and be a fan of J-Hope during his performance and he even said it on a live meeting with ARMYs that he is a fan of J-Hope so therefore that disputes they are fans of each other‘s work they do love each other as members and I think they’re extremely close 10+ years living together and working together has a bond that’s bigger than any other boy group out there that has ever existed there are no egos there are no hate there is no ill intentions and jealousy‘s that are part of this beautiful group of talented young men!
The science here when it comes to emotion Mr. Spock would say it’s not logical emotions are not logical, people have emotions that are not reasonable or clarified to make sense most of the time! It has to do with feeling an emotion and when it comes to that no one will be perfect and there are faults in the human condition!
But because they have lived with each other so long know each other and their personalities they can push back jealousies and egos they can support each other and their solo work as well not just for one person to shine but all seven members of BTS to shine ! whether they are doing solo work or group work they all seven shine and they all bring something unique and beautiful to the creative table!
Prejudice, ignorance and bigotry has always been part of BTS ‘s ongoing struggles with trying to get acceptance especially in the western music market look what the Grammys did they did that 66 th annual nominees announcements and completely shut out K-pop not just BTS but every single K-pop group that submitted their work!
BTS ‘s solo albums and the other K-pop groups albums were all dismissed their songs their albums and anything that is considered to be a nomination for the creativity! Completely ignored !
The simple fact that the Grammys and many other of the western award shows have to make separate K-pop categories and order for them to be included! You would know that BTS and the other K-pop groups would completely slam the Western artist if they had the promotion and the opportunities and play on the radio like the other western groups !
BTS will come back in 2025 and when they do whatever they have set out is going to be successful they have already proven themselves in South Korea and they’ve proven them self globally! JungKook has already had his sights on the western music market and he is slaying it! 😊💜BoraHae
Jimin is my bias but i do love the other 6 members as i loved and respect jimin.i will always believed that they are the 7 normal boys from korea whom love by army globally.no one and nothing can break the bond tnat army and bts had shared through the years.bts till the end💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
OMG one of the biggest things this whole fandom has failed to address is that the members are tired they needed that break. JK would have continued to sleep all day and relax, as he should, if he didn’t have obligations to the company and because his brothers were reminding him he should be working, lol. We all saw how impressed they were to see Suga’s schedule was packed, we now know it was because he planned for a solo concert. Though concerts cost money they are also big money makers while big production MVs and albums have huge up front costs that you may never see a profit from if you don’t budget well.
What happened to letting them rest? Why all these grandiose desires to have them break individual records? It’s those “fans” that want to push this narrative instead of just enjoying what BTS wants to put out.
Correct they needed a rest and then time to exercise their creative muscles if they wanted to and in their own time frame that was available to them before they enter their individual military service. Too many people want to control and micro manage them and I mean especially solo stans. It's got to stop, they need to leave the men of BTS alone and stop thinking they know what's 'best' for whichever member they are a solo stan of..
Everyday I get so frustrated when i see JK doing yet another promo. If he wants it like that, fine. He needs rest. Jk has been going nonstop. He'll get sick eventually. 😢 they should be mandating rest periods, not work these guys into the ground. I wanna scream.
@@FaydraGirl I think he had a good long rest and now he's just wants to perform. I hope he does slow down a bit before he starts his military service. I would wish him to be fit and healthy as that first month of training will be hard well not so hard for him he's so fit physically than most who will be with him.
Omg You hit on the nail, this was going to be my next comment. Why isn't there health a concern, or them being able to have a real relationship and last them being kept safe.
I want to like your comment a hundred times more. I might steal it lol!
Yoongi himself said that HYBE said he could do a stadium tour if he wanted because he would definitely be able to fill stadiums, but it was Yoongi who doubted that and chose to do arena tours, which he later regretted. That is an example too of BigHit not forcing BTS to do what they don’t want to do, because BH could have made a lot more money off a stadium tour.
Nothing to do with Jimin not getting his album restocked, having his streams split or not getting his song certificated by Hybe and Geffen like JK 7 did
@@veruskatorres9276 The company doesn't do that they cant' certificate it themselves you need to read up on how it's done and the fact it's not up to the Record Company.
@veruskatorres9276 I know but no matter what you said, these so called righteous people target you to shut down because it's hurting their narrative and opinions. I'm not forcing any opinions to people to agree with me but they are legit fighting with every person who have questions because they think they know them personally but yet they still don't answering any of our questions but saying aggressively that they are right, like seriously? I've asked that question so many times to people like these about the game issue and the platinum issue but not a single so called fan said anything to atleast prove themselves right. But of course they want to satisfy themselves to be seen a righteous person. But these are not said a single sentence when some haters or solo stans or Shippers destroying one member continuesly every single day, so do they think yeah that was right , they are doing their thing but they are ready to fight with people who have genuine questions and have their opinions and they are not hating any other members by doing that, they think yeah they have to fight with those people. Are they dumb? Or they think we are dumb because we're not. That's why I call them hypocrites. And they proved it by doing this. Don't waste your energy with them. We know what's happening and I just hope that never happens again to any member. 🧡❤️
@@eileencritchley4630 the company are the ones that pay for the certification, if you see 7 certification Big hit and Geffen are credited
@@veruskatorres9276girl euphoria and left and right have BEEN sold 1 million but have yet to be certified, beyoncé didnt update her certifications for TEN YEARS, stop acting like this is some huge mistreatment scandal exclusive to jimin because its not
I am trying to build constructive criticism here. I agreed that we need to build constructive criticisms. I have one big thing of thos video is based on "my trust", "my assumption", however, also criticized that what fans have brought up is because of "assumptions". When we don't know "what if" situations. Therefore what's actually important is the communication. For example, fans first asked for the reason why Like crazy has been seperated. In the context, there are many things that seem not "logical" which I am aware that it could be subjective. When fans ask the explanation, no feedback was given and fans searched for the answer and then there was a conclusion of intentional separation of Like Crazy. Timing was "suspicious" as well. What would be the "logic" here. Another example is my trust of "emotional and intellectual" ability to renew the contract so that we trust the company is based on assumption. There are many variables and this is the biggest assumption. In our life, even though we know, we can'take a decision based on only my "intellectual and emotional" ability. This is why we need to advocate. So, I think for this video to be more constructive, there should be more evidences to back up because most of the points can be arguable because they are based on personal belief and assumption rather than factual evidences which is against what the statement was initially.
I have some personal complaints regarding my bias...BUT.... They can't have the same budget, promotions, etc. This is solo era. DIFFERENT genres, DIFFERENT promotion styles, DIFFERENT concept and planning--but all centered on what the member wants. As long as the boys are happy with what they have done, we have no right to make it sound like they failed in what they wanted to do in the first place. Let's just appreciate and love each project because this is what each member wants.
I agree with this. I see a lot of people expressing their dissatisfaction with certain members’ promotions.. claiming the member is being mistreated.. and I don’t think they realize that their words reflect negatively in that member- they unknowingly make it sound like that members’ promotion failed. I do think each member targeted their promotions the way they wanted. Do I feel some promotions were mishandled a bit? Yes I do, and I hope that the company is taking note and learning from these errors
Bravo well said.
I love you for this comment, very rational thinking.
All 7 bts members decide their own promotion.
Don't think Jimin will ask for the two versions of Like Crazy be separated. Something does not add up. Some of the questions raised there are legitimate. Not restocking the albums (if the claim is indeed true) is not right. Sadly, ignoring these concerns seems to just make it worse. Hope they can clarify it honestly and not just release some general excuse. Sad to see that it has come to the point of having to send protest trucks to get attention. I don't think anyone wants this. hope they can clear these up. Cuz it's not fair to all the members.
"It's the members choice" is the answer to end the conversation which I don't think might be true for every choice and I do believe there's something really strange in all of this
jimin literally said in an interview that he wanted to make mvs for his bsides too but he was told to "be reasonable" so it didn't happen, and this fandom wants to convince everyone it's always "the member's choice"? PLEASE 😂
@@jade-ri4hmit’s never too late! I would STILL be into seeing videos for these songs!! Is it impossible for them to do some great cool videos for us to watch while they are away? That would make ARMY so happy!
I was thinking the same too. l don't think jimin will ask his two version to be separated. I think it's Spotify mistake they combined Jennie two version of her song "You & I" but then they separated it 2 days later just like Jimin song.
@@Sn0wflake7827 correct Spotify are always messing up.
Your videos and comments are so thoughtful and put together with care. I appreciate and admire that immensely. 💜
Imagine acting like Jimin didnt want his single to be certificated for going Platinum in the USA, or that he didnt want any promo despite singing in eng, or he didnt want any restock for his billboard second week or wanted his streams split etc etc
@@nicoleloss7987 Hybe has control over it see JK certification it was made by Big hit and Geffen
And is not the album im talking about just show you dont really pay attention about Jimin bc how tf you dont know that LC sold 1M in USA before 7?
@@nicoleloss7987 Boy, you are really a Jimin hater, aren't you? I am impressed with your energy to go around and spend so many weeks and nights on social media in order to against Jimin. Wow, you are really something else. Because of your kind of person, armies are splitting apart. Gees, that's enough.
There are many variables, yes. But strip everything away to few and it is clear. Splitting after the fact did not benefit any one. It was not that way from the beginning. Let's not try to guess Jimin would even have a hand in these kind of decisions after the fact, come-on. As a company, i would take his wishes but ultimately, these are promo decisions. RIAA--OK, so not do his first and do JK's later one first is not right or fair. Again, Jimin should not have to worry about this. No restock of CDs and no listing on TTHs when it was released. It does not matter if incompetence or sabotage at this point. It's not fair. It is not a rinky dink company without employees.
We have all let Jimin down by not voting for him at the BBMA'S, now he will think he's not good enough and work himself to exhaustion. He broke the record as the only solo Korean to debut at No1 on the Billboard hot 100, millions of army said Like Crazy was song of the year but in the end they voted for JK instead. Im so proud of JK but the level of disrespect towards Jimin is disgusting. Even his own company cant be bothered to let him do more than two videos. Hes the most undervalued member, without him BTS wouldn't be the same, he adds the extra magic to BTS performances. What if he chose to not return in 2025, then what. Fake army will be happy then. I am very sad for him that hes treated this way. We all let him down
I'm sure Jimin is doing just fine. Fans did their best, no one let him down.
@@crystalsnow1138 You don't know him very well if you think he's fine, he's an absolute perfectionist. He will think he's not good enough, some army let him down big style, they know who they are. Jimin isn't 2n best to JK he's equally as talented If not more, Jimin can do what the other 6 members can't. They don't have his training
Layover from V is best of all the singles released from BTS solos. That is ART.
@@mrsta8233Wow, bias much!
Oh and by the way true Army aren't treating Jimin like a child, as you seem to be. You aren't Jimin's keeper. Stop trying to think you know how he is feeling or what he is going to be feeling. He may have been similar too what you say at one point, but that was how many years ago. And he has changed, matured, grown in so many ways. If you think he is still the same as back than, you haven't been paying attention.
You, in many ways, sound simply ridiculous.
undervalued lol
I agree with you 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻... it's the company that should have done better at their work... each of them deserves better...bts deserves better... plus the armys (or maybe solostans) who were vocal about the unfair treatment towards the members.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💜💜💜
Now, let's talk LOGICALLY, based on FACTS we've experienced before, THERE ARE DIFFERENT treatments for each member's solo activities!
What about these facts for the TWO members "allegedly" having been "mistreated", first ones to debut their solo careers:
1) Hobi did not HAVE a physical JITB album at first?
He WANTED this or was it suggested to him so that, later, when he enlisted, they could release the physicals?
Now where's the LOGIC in this? NO physicals in your DEBUT means LOW numbers in BB & other charts that emphasize them, or am I wrong?
Not to mention affecting number of total SALES??? As in, which is more expensive, a physical or digital album???
Oh, but they did try to rectify it by releasing a Limited Edition VINYL in December?
2) Seokjin's The Astronaut, hmmm yes, NO mistreatments at all!
9-day Pre-Order.
1 week shut down of shipping immediately after Debut with Itaewon as the excuse, though it was only logistic activities & not TV performances in S. Korea, and other logistic Cos still did business then.
1 week of Japan's sales delay.
1 1/2 MONTHS delay for US & EU shipping with NO NUMBERS of sales reported to date.
Informing sales on US weverse or other Korean shops would count on BB but later BTS Merch informed that US weverse "no longer says 100% of the sales count towards Billboards," also KTOWN4U informed this LATER.
Hanteo sales frozen to 700k on FIRST day so TA could only be at #3 for total highest number of Hanteo sales in 2022.
Maybe because TA was already the FIRST Gaon Million Seller (since changing from Circle), so no need to have TWO Million Seller titles (Gaon sales came first as they were counted from distributors' sales, Hanteo from retailers)!
No radio spins.
No payola.
No millions of remixes.
No separate English & Korean versions to chart higher.
No inclusion on Spotify's TTH till very late after Debut, etc, etc.
I'll never forget what Jhope face for his album, he didn't release physical album his fans were complaining about his decision alot to the point that he feel guilty for his decision, months later he release physical album to satisfy some fans demand
Very well said but I'm not still convinced that there's no favoritism here. The company announced the resigned contract when the chaotic time happened. Why not before the solo era so that we solo stan will understand the process while in fact we're the direct customers right? They do crisis management to silenced the mess they've done. Sometimes something might not be seen by our own eyes but our intuations are enough to spot the real thing. And why this explanation happend just after the claims from fans of unfair treatment. This world has a lot of problems already and we stan the group that could enlighten our lives in a little bit. Then this happens unfair treatment which forcefully covered by some. Im sorry but i hope theres someone who made a content on what the fans just really feel nowadays. Hope theres no crisis management done and all things will just fall into as if nothing happened. Its safe to say that nothing's wrong here just dont be obvious. Where is the LOVE YOUR SELF here if they alone hurt us...
Please understand our side also dont solo stans are forcing the issue its them making an issue we're just reacting to it....
We all know Jungkook is Bh's favorite and don't even try to deny this sht lmao
👏👏👏👏👏
He is the maknae after all, what the hell do you expect he is the lead vocalist of bts?
As soon as Jungkook album came out mostly tae solo stans and jimin solo stans are busy victimising their biases which is very sad to see in this fandom. POOR JK he’s almost surrounded by these toxic people just because he chose to sing in english which is the most risky job according to me because as an asian artist ,western people non kpop fans are ready to tear him down and pull him down ,his own fandom are doing the same.My 7 boys are facing so many criticism but remember this will only make them stronger and soar higher so ignorance is bliss.
@@dalecarson645...was.BTS remains in the name only.
@@halinaedwards8154 they will be back in 2025.
Jimin Love to be with his 6 brothers(BTS) ,and im sure he signed another contract BECAUSE of BTS ... not because of HYBE.
You do know that all 7bts members are shareholders in hybe.
@@nicoleloss7987 1% HOLDER🙄
what power you got in 1%？😂
@@acopitchy3951 its actually less than 1 percent. all combine they hold about 0.6 percent. which is little pennies. they should hold at least 1 percent each.
well said about the solo stans. they do play a part but solo also needs to think about what it would mean for any of the members if army were only bias to one member. because than none of the members would have the result that they do now. ot7 support all the members and i have bought all 7 albums so far. but if none of of did that they would all get lower sales and streams. so solos need us but too, but we also need them like you said. they give us the ability to push for more and make history.
It's hard to NOT notice that the company has its favourites. You can tell from the content, the articles they choose to promote, the push they give for certain songs or projects that the others don't have. I'm disappointed but not shocked bc bighit is just like any other business. I just find it ironic cuz this fandom always preaches about member equality but i haven't been seeing that at all 😂
oop your co-armys might call you a solo/mantis for speaking facts
@@jade-ri4hm I've been called so multiple times, it's crazy but the truth is that I love all the members and I support what they put out. However if I see something that makes me lift an eyebrow I'm gonna speak about it
You do know each member has a different style in music, and company allow them to do so. You can't control people's choice of music, and they have different target audience. One thing the guys and PD has stated plenty times the give them freedom to do their thing.
This! The fandom is partly to blame with how the members are being treated differently. Army should be calling out bh for their clear bias of certain members. It's cause of all members hard work that bts is what they are today ALL members
Well one can definitely see the differences in promotions of the idols. And I don't know think any one member will ever hate on another all I can see among them is love and brotherhood and they deserve every good thing that come their way....and I love them them all❤💜
Favoritism prevails.
If you look at the sum of all of the recent interviews by PD bang, you can see that they really want to have clout in the western music market. They promoted Jungkooks English album more than they did any other album because they figured that one had a better chance of getting what they wanted. They had BTS released three English songs in hopes of winning a Grammy When that did not happen they tried with Jungkook They promoted his album more than other solo album They-were counting on getting that number one using HYBE America but Jimin got it without their help so it kind of threw a wrench in their plans. Most companies would have done a complete turnaround, and totally provided tons of support to the artist who got the number one, but they all, but ignored him. This is not against Jungkook but if you look at the facts they are there and they’re undeniable. It is not a reflection on BTS but HYBE
IMHO...the company went from BigHit "music and artists for healing" to HYBE "forget the artists, it's $$$$ we're after." I'm not sure why BTS re-signed with HYBE, but frankly I wish they hadn't.
The only one who really expressed wanting to do a full English album was Jungkook. When talking about music none of them has ever expressed that.
Your argument is based on the assumption that Jimin would have wanted them to heavily promote in the US. When looking at all the promotions they each seem to “fit” the individual members very well. So, maybe, we shouldn’t start assuming that each member would have wanted to have the kind of promotion JK is getting. Maybe (and NONE of us will ever truly know), each member got the promotion they wanted and were comfortable with. Can we all please start our arguments by assuming ALL the members are smart and know themselves and their own desires better than we do? Please??
@@impatientprocrastinator1134 exactly 💯
All 7 bts members have control over their own solo. They decided their own promotion. So respect it.
What I can say is that Jimin is a perfectionist, meticulous, vocal, and smart.
He won’t settle for anything less, and he is not a weakling. He is a born leader, a profound thinker, and with a hidden warrior in him.
I won’t give a litany of what will back-up my perception of him.
And yet, he is bound by contract and obligations, and there are things he cannot control.
But it is clear as day that he was neglected if not sabotaged by the company. Is it because he is weak or submissive? No, it is because he has a voice they must always contend with, to which the company is resentful and spiteful.
As simple as restocking his cd, such a big company cannot do? My friend said, how will they sabotage a shareholder? Well, Jimin is only 1/7 of the 3% combined shares of the members.
Who knows what’s in the hearts of RM, V, and the other members, if they have frustrations with the company? And JK, how do we know what’s in his heart, how come he delayed reacting being #1 in BBHot 100?
These boys will renew their contracts for the reason that they find fulfilment and joy in their music, and they feel indebted to the army who waits for them.
My disappointment is all towards the company. Business is just business and these boys are treated as mere commodities. They are not indispensable.
Boracity Magazine did a video on how all the members had their own way of promoting their solos and why it was done the way they did. Explaining it so meticulously...
Maybe you both could get together, that would be awesome.
And also thank you for your input/insight. I always check your video's.
I agree with you! I really liked Boracity Magazine's video about this! It explained it so well. I HIGHLY recommend this video, and yes, maybe you could get together about this. 🙂
I looked at that video and it makes 100% sense the way they embarked in their activities. also we have to consider that due to time constraints they have to fit some spaces, and let the other member shine when it was due. also they are working so hard to not only work on their material but also working in additional material that will be shown when all of them are in military, they have a strong commitment that BTS is always first and they as solo artist.
It sounds like the armies you hear from considered the solo releases to have failed, and that Big Hit needs to do better to keep from causing their share of those failures again. I missed the part where anything went wrong. I heard over a hundred beautiful or danceable new songs, saw beautiful and fun new videos, saw great results on music charts, and enjoyed variety show interviews about the new work.
Maybe my perspective doesn’t count because I don’t see the favoritism. I haven’t heard any complaints about it.
I’m not sure I agree that it’s helpful to have army blame Big Hit for perceived injustices. Sure, people should be able to say what they want, but who says that individuals outside the company and outside the group actually know what happened? Our perception matters, but we don’t run the business.
I agree that Army needs to continue to be vocal for BTS members as needed to address the label ‘respectably”. ❤
Yes, the company didn't know how to manage their individual works and honestly it's sad because I think this was their time, I hope the future comes with better things for them
It's undertandable that the company could have done better with the management of the solo projects but I think it was way better than if the tannies decided to the work in other company. Because Big Hit Music is experiencing for the frirst time this kind of projects for such big stars
All 7 bts members have control over their own solo promotion. They made their own decisions. Respect it
very irresponsible of them
THANK YOU YOU MAKE A VALID POINT AND I AGREE IT CAN LOOK LIKE HOW FANS SAY BUT I FEEL THE MEMBER'S DECISION IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT.
all seven brothers are all together in there decisions .I think and hope so 😎
Yoongi and Jimin discussed the fact that they are each responsible for organising all of their own solo promotions on Suchwita. The point about Hoseok's physical album was a great illustration of this. As a further example, Jimin himself considered FACE to be an almost 'throw away' album - something he was going to give to us for free - until the others talked him out of it. The other members, Yoongi in particular, said they had to try hard to convince him to even appear on the Music shows. Was that seeming insecurity due to lack of support from the company? I don't believe so.
Going solo is a very intimidating step, one that both Hoseok and Jimin spoke to each other about repeatedly (as we saw from BANGTANTV footage). Sure, the rap line had done their 'mixtapes' but they still weren't 'solo'. At least they had a bit of a taste of what it was like, but Jin and the maknae line had no such 'soft opening'. They had yet to present their true musical style to the world as individuals and would have no real idea how well they would be received. We also have to consider the fact that they're all under the pressure of time constraints due to enlistment as well.
I personally can't say how disappointed I was to learn that Jungkook did not write any of the songs on his debut album, especially since he has shown us his talent for it over the years, however he said himself that he was not comfortable with it this time around. I have to respect that and hope he is more confident next time. I can't deny that the implications that Scooter basically only wanted him and not the rest of BTS which is why he was given 'better promotions and opportunities' doesn't disturb me, but ultimately that has nothing to do with Jungkook himself nor his relationship with the other members. We can see by their conservations (again mainly on Suchwita) that they are aware of everything and have talked about it amongst themselves.
It's like the 'unfair line distribution' argument. Looking at overall vocal time in a single song doesn't reflect the impact of that part of the song, nor the difficulty. What if one member can't sing/rap as much because they are involved in insane choreography or have to save their voice for technically difficult, high or low notes? Namjoon has addressed this saying that they decide these things as a group and it all evens out in the end anyway.
Each one of those men know what they are capable of and are comfortable doing and act accordingly. What if they simply didn't want/can't do more? They are finally in a phase of their careers that THEY have control over as individuals, not having to concede or compromise to anyone else. How many times have they said that they are vastly different people? Naturally they have all approached this hiatus/solo time differently, but they have all said that this experience will only lead to each of them being able to enrich BTS further in the future and, from what we've seen so far, they are so right!
Please stop with disappointed speech, people like you take the enjoyment for solo release album day cause you are more focused on writing credit. All members had writing credit expect Jungkook & V, l do remember when layover came out people like you were more focused on why he didn't have writing credit instead of enjoying his album now Golden is out Jungkook also didn't have writing credit l was seeing complaining why he didn't have writing credit instead of enjoying his album. Can people just enjoy the album V & Jk already explained why they didn't write on their album
@@Sn0wflake7827 a lot of the best singers ever did not write the songs they sang. It would have been great to hear what JK has to say in a song - his point of view- but he has done an amazing job of making these songs his own with his vocal and dance performances. Maybe next time!
The two members that didn’t write their songs were Tae and JK, but that’s fine. Their albums were predominately English albums. If not mistaken, both expressed they had unfinished songs and previous storylines had changed, since both were the last members to release their solo projects. Time was at essence and they needed to present their projects. Surely, both were 💯 % involved in choosing the songs presented to them by other writers once they had a new and clear storyline. The only “questionable” thing was JK working with Scooter B (imo, it was planned by Bang PD, Scooter B and JK for the vision they wanted to promote for JK) bc of his dubious management ethics with previous Western artists. All in all, Tae and JK’s solo projects were successful. Both (all 7) worked very hard.
I really appreciate this comment. I missed the part about Jimin’s album. It warms my heart that he considered it such a first step. I look forward to more! Your comments on all the members was so informative. Thank you!
That's not the problem guys...we know it was their first solo album so they were nervous...the sabotage and ignorance in case of Jimin we are talking about are these---
Why did the company still didn't restocked like crazy single CDs ( of which fans are asking from past 7 months)
Why didn't they still applied for RIAA platinum certification when the song was eligible for the award by August itself
Why suddenly did they removed his name from writing credits of his own song ( and they added it back 2 days later... like what)
Now please don't tell that it was jimin's decision to not restock his CDs because he doesn't want his fans to listen to his songs... that would be ridiculous
the Company tried to REMOVED JIMIN's name on credit in Like Crazy ,
that happened exactly when Jk released his Seven ..
YOU SAID.. "MAYBE JIMIN asked" the company or maybe jimin want it.
So "MAYBE" jimin asked the company to discredit him in his own written song? 😂
Pmj's asked for RESTOCK since week of Jimin's released BUT THE COMPANY seems like Blind and deaf .
maybe Jimin asked not to restock ???
maybe Jimin asked the company not to ship his album to the Pjm's who order since the day its released BUT UNTIL NOW the company NEVER SHIP ?
i wont mention Armys anymore coz when it talks about Jimin's albums ONLY PJM's feels how the company tried so hard to Block jimin's sells.
Oh really???? Jungkook has been credited wrongly so many times...Even, recently he had crediting issues with his live performances...They were not credited to his name...Do you think he "asked" the company to do so...If we start counting like this, every member faced some or the other issues, it is not just about your bias...Jimin works with in house producers...He works with people of HYBE- Pdogg, Lumpens...If he was being mistreated, why would he work with them??
@@sm2160the company REMOVED JIMIN'S name on credit in his own written song , that time when jungkook released Seven.
did i said about jk's credit on his song? do you understand my comments?
i said it happened when jk released his Seven BECAUSE thats what really happened...
they removed jimin's name for 2days .. and PJm's never stop calling HYBE for what they did.
thats why they credit Jimin back.
And he extended his contract with that claimed sabotage?😂🤣😂🤣😂
How do you know about this?
Did Jimin inform you or somebody inside HYBE informed you?
@@zaiar7019 did you watch the content of this video? or you directly scroll every comments?
she said "MAYBE JIMIN WANT IT"
I think the one thing that the company could clear up are the resources given to the members- for example were they all provided same budget for their projects? And then each member given their own discretion to spend the resources?
I think that's between them and the company we know that certain members also used their own money as they were in charge of their own solo careers. There's always going to be a cut off point when it come's to the budget and if any member wants to do something that will go past that budget they have a choice to adapt what they are doing, or use some of their own money for the short fall or just not do everything they planned. It's all part of process of growing within the Music Business. I bet each member learnt a hell of lot doing things themselves with assistance and advice when they asked for it. More power to them. (edited due to bad grammar and spelling errors. sorry)
I think there were also sponsorships
@@mora5146 Proberly which is something they'd have to seek for themselves or ask advice about who to contact etc etc.
Alot of them got Sponsorship . Some might have used their own money to.
But bighit/hybe gave all 7 the same budget.
BTS resigned w/ Bighit bec they CHOSE TO..each member has their own Attorney & they negotiated a new contract on THEIR TERMS. OBVIOUSLY, they GOT WHAT THEY ASKED FOR…smartly, by staying w/ Bighit & NOT joining Americian music companies BTS felt they had the MOST CONTROL of their music , money opportunities & career direction. BTS SMARTLY REALIZE they must tour & make money as soon as all members complete military obligations…they worked so hard for 10+ years & 💯 DESERVE TO CASH IN…& not foolishly sign w/ an Americian Company who will “promise” them world wide fame & not have the career control or money opportunities that Bighit can offer..in America they will just be another Artist in their company…,Americian companies make the BIG MONEY..& their Artist struggle to cash in & get what they deserve. I’m 💯in SUPPORT of BTS touring in 2025 & earning what they so rightly DESERVE! & at the same time giving devoted Army what they wish for🫶🏼💜
Fairlane and all Army another insightful & objective analysis that makes us understand and appreciate BTS - OT7 even more.
very good comments too from Army.. real true Army!💜
We have 1.5 years till they all return (Jin & Jhope returning sooner) so the guys are doing so
much now to continue “ to be in touch with us” while they are away. But please lets remember to give them personal break to enjoy themselves and be with their families during the remaining time before they all enter military.
FAIRLANE- Galing mo talaga💜 Borahae
I liked your content, it is sensible and reflects my thinking. Thanks. 💜🇧🇷
I agree with some of it but why can't just Big Hit clarify the issues for the fans?? Why choose to ignore them?? Like a simple statements or clarifications will do, but why can't they do it?
Who are you to ask. All 7 bts members have control over their own solo. They made their own decisions. Respect it.
@@nicoleloss7987 I'm just someone with concerns. Let's just say that BTS are in control but that's not the main point, why are the company not doing anything to clear the misunderstandings?
I just think simple, the real situation only related parties know, and it's always guard by confidentiality agreement that very tight closed only for their eyes. Looking into, each member Solo activity, we can see the different format how many songs, album or mini album, photoshoots and it's format/theme also location, producers involved and teams ( designers, dancers, stage, illustrators, visual concept etc), composers, musicians, video team and so on. Except Jin the first who went enlistment in short time, only launching single one song. Perhaps when completed his training, will prepare his Solo Album. Hobi and Sugar launched perhaps most completed versions they have created many their own composed songs, Solo show Hobi in Lolapalozza while Suga in USA and parts of Asia as well in Seoul. RM launched Indigo with many collabs. JiMin broke BB charts follow by JK. V with different genre captured worldwide taste of listeners. JK launching English based songs to penetrate US market. From what happened, obviously, the format of each member project were different, as each one taste and preferences different. Each member and main producer discussed the whole related project which they were tight negotiations. Because they concern relating to the cost as well as the end of sharing profits. If the artist want certain format which cost very expensive, means also his profits portion will be affected as well the main producers. We can also see the package content of the Album, maybe related too. So we cannot straight forward said, the different was affected mainly because of the mistreated to members, only members and the content of the contracts that can speak, if any. Envy all Members, Producers and Teams how they prepared, worked so great in limited time, extensive hours, I never seen such Group of people simultaneously launched 7 members projects in one year period. 💜
Some so call OT7 Army kept saying BTS said that they have full control over their solo projects & that BTS wouldn’t have renewed their contract if they are not happy.
How naive are you? Don’t you see?
They have to say it to make it seems everything is OK for their fans because any member speaks about mistreatment or unfairness?
That will be the end of BTS because it will bring huge chaos to BTS fandoms & that will definitely make each BTS members talk about their grievances & unhappy feelings they have kept hidden towards each others including towards Hybe, which means starting of fight among BTS members & Hybe.
Have you not seen disbanding of other idol group or bands?
If any of the member decided to not sign with Hybe, Or decided to walk away, that will be the end of BTS because Hybe has the right to the idol group name ‘BTS’ & its brand & they will never let BTS members to walk away from them while using ‘BTS’ name!
Look what happened with famous SM idol group ‘DongBangSinGi’ or ‘Black Pink’ right now!
The fact is that Hybe is holding idol brand name BTS as their hostage & all the BTS members who love to be working together as the BTS member & their beloved Army as their fans will keep their mouth shut as long as they can bare it!
For BTS members, it is better to have some then none!
Also Hybe in Korea is already super mega entertainment & music company with mighty power!
And even though each BTS members has many fans under their wing, weight of Hybe is too heavy burden for them to fight & fly as solo against Hybe!
That is why they would never say anything negative!
That is why it is We, fan’s job to help correct any Hybe’s mistake & mismanagement behalf of our beloved idol, BTS & make sure Hybe to treat them fairly!
Two members of the same group achieved the same record. One gets the reward, one doesn't. Why? Simply why. It shouldn't be that hard to answer. When companies act like this can you blame people for speculating. Armies got too sensitive to solos (which i understand they really cause problems), they reject everything they have been saying without questioning. Beefing with solos become the priority for so many. There are certain things going on for sure but i feel like some armies ignoring it just to disagree with solos.
I know but just to stop people like us who are right to say out loud their opinions, some so called fake fans are targeting us to stop us which is ridiculous because they never said anything to real haters and shippers when they are destroying a member everywhere. They want to called themselves righteous by fight with genuine people rather than real haters . But they're hypocrites and they can't change themselves. 🤷 But I 100% agree with you . 👏👏💯🥰
"Jimin of BTS earned a platinum certification from the Recording Industry Association of America with “Like Crazy,” label Big Hit Music said Friday.
“Like Crazy” is the only solo single from a K-pop musician to surpass 1 million unit sales in the US this year and hit the milestone in record time for a K-pop solo act at 155 days." The Korea herald. This is something I found while searching for Jimin's platinum certification. If he got why are people complaining.
@@den28mom-ue2jgJimin achieved the platinum certification in August, but the label has to buy the certification plaque. Seven achieved the certification after Like Crazy but the label bought that one first.
@@michellem6826 ok got it.
@@den28mom-ue2jg Just a point of clarification. Jung Kook received certification and is listed on the RIAA website as receiving certification on November 6, 2023. As of November 16, 2023 @11:10 PM EST Jimin is not listed on the website as receiving certification. TXT is listed, Stray Kids and of course the numerous BTS songs that sold 1 million copies.
As I watch your new content I am also dropping back to look at older content. Being a scientist and an instructor I so much appreciate your logical approach to content. I don't think BigHit is perfect... but I think they are the right place for BTS.
I think sometimes we forget that compared to other labels it's still young. They've grown super fast and that comes with growing pains. They are also following their own path... one that is as new as the label itself. And YES because it is new and untested BigHit needs feedback.
Even if decisions originate with the artists, there needs to be feedback. If you are in the middle of a rainforest and trying to cut a path... you have no idea if you are really going the wrong direction. BTS themselves have expressed that they WANT their work to be for the fans... so without feedback how can they adjust? Yes they know us better than most artists know their fandom.... but we (as they) evolve as well. 💜
You know if Jimin's second album will be gatekeeped again, you, army, will have literally 0 reason to talk shit about PJMs ever again. And I know that they already will push JK only, because of that shitty article that gaslighted people to think that "youngest from group is always huge pop star"(it was on Weverse, mind you, in this same THEIR platform there they shaded Jimin with reference as "partial success" and at the same time they praised white racist). They had one job, to be fair and not arrogant, but HYBE choose to split armies and think they can do such things without punishment. That's typical " big company" syndrome, I saw this shit in different industries before, there was never a good ending for such arrogant companies. Also, that "removing k from kpop" will end up not good either. HYBE is looking not promising at all and it's completely fine to say that you are not satisfied, because for them we all are clients, we are money for them, we have right to speak when our rights are restricted. HYBE is not about "artists for healing" and for a long time now.
What.
You do know that all 7bts members are shareholders in hybe. Hitman gave all 7bts members control over their own solo. They decided their own promotion and who they work with. Bighit and hybe fund their projects and made the deals for them. All 7 bts members have business degrees. And all 7 bts members have their own private legal teams that negotiate with their company about their contract.
@@nicoleloss7987 You do know that I listened to this shit like 1000th times in Twitter? Don't embarrassing yourself pls. And their amount of shares is not that big even as 7 together. Voting power is really low per member + there was info (from HYBE's financial report), that their voting shares currently on 0. There was also Netmarble, that sold like 2.5 million shares and info about them in that report same as from news about this transaction. Papa Bang still decides everything. Also because of him, most likely we will not see any Korean lyrics soon and everything will be as generic as American pop music. And guess what? BTS will do it, doesn't matter if they like it or not. HYBE needs money and further extension of company, they need to feed their investors (of course with charts results). Btw HYBE's stocks are shit now and for months. They completely lost positive impact from Jimin's solo debut. Sadly, Jimin and PJMs will give these mfs boost again... Damn, I hate this company.
I agree with most of what you said but I don’t think it’s right to demand anything , I feel you can ask big hit but to demand like your there boss to me is wrong . And yes all these solo fans ,y’all need to remember BTS has formed such a tight bother-hood , why are y’all trying to put them against each other .they will not like that at all . What you SOLO-fans should like is the fact they no matter what they will support each other during their solo projects . also if you don’t like the other six members fine but keep your negative mean ,immature comments to your self . You can have bias and still be respectful 💜🙂
I think what Hybe & BangPD’s ultimate goal at the moment is not earning more money( yes, their basic goal will always be more money but to keep on earning more money, they have to grow, expand & build more power in global music markets including US & that is why Hybe is keep on buying new music labels from US & expanding their company) but more likely solidifying their(aka. Kpop) permanent place & power in US music market & they are using Scooter’s connections, knowhow & power, combined with JK’s popularity(let’s face it! He is the most popular member of BTS closely followed by Jimin & V & that was how Hybe was kept on planning & aiming BTS from the beginning!)& his talents, making him a huge mega star, like Michael Jackson, to achieve their ultimate goal, to solidifying their place in US music market!
And their first goal was to win the title of ‘The first Korean solo singer to win No.1 billboard hot 100 chart’ which is really monumentally historical title.
However, unexpectedly Jimin & his brilliant first solo album’s title song ‘Like Crazy’ has took that title from them & from that on many title’s & records that they were planning to get with JK, was often competed with Jimin & his song ‘Like Crazy’.
That is why Hybe is trying to minimize any effect that Jimin & ‘Like Crazy’ is making, that means ironically Hybe is fighting with Army fans, mostly Jimin bias fans & their actions has turning many of ARMY into Jimin solo fans because of their mistreatment towards Jimin.
I think as long as this ‘obsession of Bang PD, Scooter & Hybe(along with JK ambition)which is making JK as ’ exists, no other BTS members would get the full fair support(same as JK) from Hybe in their solo career & they might even receive some kinds of unexplainable mismanagement in their future.
If you were right, then all other six members deserved to be used and abused for being right down stupid
what else could they be when they signed contracts with the label that is abusing, ignoring and despising them.
All six victims for sure had the pick of the crop from the largest global conglomerates, not
just from Asian, but from the West
Remember that by the time they signed, everyone knew ARMY and their corresponding niche music markets was with them
But well, seems that their 10+ yrs of experience in one of the toughest music industries, plus the learning with top global producers, plus their MAs in arts management, have all been wasted on those six victims
They so much needed you, and the likes of you, to manage their affairs.🤡🤡🤡
Thanks for spotlighting that sensitive topic!
I love them all but JiMin is my bias. I just can’t help it. I can identify with so many things he says. Thank you for providing insight into your culture.
What a gerat video! You explained the how to do objetive conclusions
I enjoy your intelligent opinions on your channel and the fact that you try to not show favoritism. Please continue to give us your thoughts on BTS
I notice Suga have 8 to 10 bodyguards at airport I suspect he get a lot of death threats but he don't want army to worry so he keep it quiet. JK can't have enough bodyguards to protect him, he have hundreds of idiots trying to trample him, another strategy is needed to protect him.
Its not just about the promotions, its gotten way worse beyond promos.
持續溝通很重要!!!為了所愛、所珍惜的人!!!
It's 100% proven that the company separated Like Crazy because it's right in Spotify's Artist FAQ that ONLY the company can change the credits of a song. Like Crazy two versions were WRONGFULLY separated by someone removing Ghstloop's producer credit on one version. As soon as Spotify updated and the versions separated Ghstloop's credit was fixed. Shakira's English and Spanish songs are combined when they have the same musical arrangement, same writing credits and same song length. Hybe separated the versions because Jungkook solo stans were trending hate hashtags and spreading vile SA type attacks against Jimin. I stopped the video when I got to 5 minutes in because I'm FURIOUS. I normally like your videos but this is NOT it. Anyone who has worked hard to support Jimin has actually been traumatized by everything that happened and the fandom gaslighting on top of it is so gross.
Every kpop song that has a Korean version/English version or even a Japanese version of a Korean song the streams are separated. It's not just Jimin. I don't know why Shakira's streams aren't separated.
I hope the new contract gives additional stock options ( I’m sure that would be the case), the quickest way to break up BTS is to pit one member against each other, most other groups have split up because one or more members were elevated above the others. I can only imagine how hard it is for individual members to see/hear their much loved “brother” be criticised unfairly by fans in their name. Thank you for being the voice of reason
I am only going to share the releif I feel that having social media accounts and/or interacting on social media is not a requirement to be an ARMY.
A person can love and support (and grow their understanding of) BTS without subjecting themselves to this level of emotional torture.
I think it's doesn't make any sense to argue or hate members. It doesn't make sense. It's divisive and serves no purpose. It's wrong. We also need to understand that because BTS are family they can say and do things that we on the outside looking in may find objectionable. However, families say and do the wrong thing all the time, then they forgive, makeup or don't think it's a big deal. Why? Because we're family. The fans forget that. Fan on fan fights within and outside the fandom, is a whole other topic and makes me tired just thinking about it.
It is so blatant
You make some good points! ❤❤❤
She's beautiful... im jealous of her glossy hair, lol. I love these videos. Is there an option to sign up for monthly donations?
J-Hope not releasing a hard disk is because of the pressure the industry is putting on everyone to go green, but it also feeds the subscription music corporation. Eventually, I think Weverse will become it's own Spotify~music platform. They are compiling their catalog which will make it appealing for more artists to just join and host their music there. Philip de Franco posted something recently and specifically called out BTS and ARMY with the waste of albums and the complaints of how it harms the environment.
They only got 3%? That's exploitation.
That’s so true, some ARMYS think they are so intelligent, smart that they know everything that they always make conclusions , make comments as if they know everything what’s going on within HYBE, BigHit and what the artists really want to happen or their plans with their careers.
So army tends to repeat the mantra that each member chooses his own promotion; army ignores that the budget for jk is more than the rest of the members combined. And i guess jk chose to have multiple versions and remixes and PAID TTH listing the minute his singles are released - i wonder how much the instant TTH no. 1 cost for SNTY
@g.s.7 Hi, I believe that the reason JK had a greater promotion budget was because for 'Seven' and 'Golden' he didn't work for HYBE Korea - he worked for HYBE America, and these are two different companies. HYBE Korea was not the label for the recent work of JK, so cannot be blamed for any promotion efforts, or lack of. I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong.
I don't think it's unrealistic to believe that management has favorites or a favorite. I mean, come on. That's like saying parents don't have a favorite child, or you don't have a favorite cousin, sibling, aunt, or uncle. Do I know that it is the case, no? But when people act like it's an impossibility, it just makes me roll my eyes. I think a lot of the promotion choices are artist choice, but like Geffen, not giving Jimin the same attention as others is shady to me. But for all I know, Jimin was like, "Please do not advertise my single. I also do not want to have pre-orders or sufficient notice. Do not restock LC cds." It's possible.
BigHit just revealed an impressive new brand logo, not for BTS, but for one of the seven members. Look at BTS's YT channel BANGTANTV and compare the playlists for the members' solo projects. BH produced more content for JK's single Seven than for the other members' entire albums. Honestly, the question is not whether BigHit promotes one member more aggressively than the others, but why--and how ARMY should respond.
Maybe because it is a grand project. No matter what promotion they'll get, no album will have the same results as golden (it's is a mainstream album). So they decided to invest in what will give better results and money. And it is how it should work, because in the end this results bring attention to the whole group and to every solo album in a way.
Because Jk wants to be a giant pop star and we don’t get radio play much. That’s payola and BTs doesn’t do that. Not even seven got played a lot … so we know that we need these versions of seven to buy to make up for the radio play so the sing charts high. JK and now Jimins music is made for western charts to chart high. Cause that what they wanna do. Pop music in English will always get more attention than Korean rap songs or a jazz album.
Why can’t you trust the members? Jk sits down with his people and discusses plans and the rest do that too. They each have their own visions. It’s not a catalog Hybe gives them and they check boxes with that they want. They plan stuff on their own and come up with ideas. So let them try things out.
Some of the media was created by Big Hit…they know a fan that’s unhappy or feels someone in BTS is treated unfairly, especially their bias, will keep Armies engaged, pushing activity on social media and that increases streams and visibility for the members as well as pushing sales and pushing their music farther up the charts. Some of it is a tactic. The amount of talk about this member being treated unfair or that member getting the shaft due to whatever reason has been a hot topic for months…now I’m not saying these guys didn’t achieve their solo success all on their own because they did….but just know that some of the subject matter is Big Hit driven which in turn pushes the Armies to get out there and support as much as possible.
I’m sure they have multiple meetings with each member to discuss the vision for their projects and ultimate goals the member wants to achieve and based on that they figure out a plan (together) to achieve that. Every member doesn’t want the same thing.
Why would the company risk favoring members over the next and jeopardize the trust and respect they have with each member and potentially hurt the team and hurt their pockets.
People need to think critically instead of emotionally. Stop with the unnecessary negativity and work harder as fans to make sure we support each member equally. Cause if anyone in this equation shows favoritism it’s people within the fandom.
I love this channel ❤
Parabéns, você foi muito feliz nas colocações, espero que todos possam aprender a se portar assim na vida
Scooter admitted he likes to take "one" from a group and make them Big. His words alone makes it favoritism!
Memener cannot promote the staff is just as imcompatant as the company itself. Kook music is not even his own het just does his dances to the songs which is heartsore he does not realize how he is being used for opening doors for Bighit. We'll looking at Bighit pity
I agree with you. I am a BTS ARMY and find it difficult to pick a favorite member. I choose all 7 as my bias. As far as the extent those armies went to picket Hybe disturbs me. There are other ways to lodge your complaints if necessary. Until those people work within the company to understand what’s going on they have no complaint. Certainly in the manner they did. It certainly shows that they don’t have faith in Jimin (or any other member) to be intelligent enough to address issues if he feels slighted. The guys signed another contract. If they weren’t happy they wouldn’t have done that. People, give these guys credit to know what they want to do/ or not do for their future career. Save your money spent on renting buses to donate to a food bank etc. I’m sure Jimin would be proud of that instead of embarrassed at such a public display. Complain if you want through an email or letters. Thank you .
The fact that Pjms held many Jimin birthday projects which included blood donation camp and donated food and groceries too of which Jimin knows and he is proud too like he himself supports the act of donation and by doing so he has proved it multiple times.....
We have faith in our angel jimin but we don't believe the company... like
Why didn't they still applied for RIAA platinum certification when the song was eligible for the award by August itself
Why didn't they still restocked like crazy single CDs (of which fans were asking for past 7 months )
Why suddenly did they removed his name from writing credits of his own song ( and they added back after two days... like what)
These were the request his fans were talking about...
Aren't you an ot7... don't you love all 7 of them... then will you be happy if even one of them is given unfair treatment... pjms are calling out the company for unfair treatment but ot7 can't do so...why?
@@AditiShandilya-d7j I hear you but I personally believe that is a question that needs to be addressed with Jimin and probably has been. It’s a challenging business. I have family in that business and decisions don’t always make sense to me. I am a fan of all 7 members and have been for a while. I just feel that the members have attorneys to handle things if a member feels mistreated. They don’t need me to do that nor do I need to know why Hybe made those decisions. I do appreciate the passion just not the way the fans went about it.
Thanks for all the philanthropic activities done on behalf of BTS including of Jimin. I have been so amazed at what has been done. I just don’t think this event was helpful.
Take care….
@@ck1948 I understand...
You too take care...
Yes, yes :)
Target markets are different for the different members. If they all had the promotion tactic's it wouldn't work for each member. Each member did extremely well in their different genres.
Do we believe Spotify we know they are always doing strange things and lieing to people then making up lame excuses when they get court out.
While others saw joy and good news in the world Leave it to people trying to spread their trifling, negative .views. ..stop with all your crazy speculations,.this question is well answered during sugar talk show with JK & V when they shared their own plans on how to come up with songs , they aprove each and every song/genre they choose, they choose when and how to release their music so we know their all smart and very well spoken and can speak up for themselves and they know all they have todo is taje their grievances to the fans to get changes they want... No, it's not the army's right to be disruptive each time their favorite does not do well as they like.. am OT7 so surport them on all projects but don't hate some who are more liked by the public.. STOP IT !!
Stop it. You don't know anything and you have no right to decide who can talk and what they can say. And if you had LISTENED to her talk, you would have heard about the difference between promotion planning and course correction after the fact. Two different things. And Big Hit needs to identify problems after the fact and fix them so no one sees unnecessary divisions that could have been quickly healed if management and staff had been professional enough to recognize an issue, fix it, and figure how who was to blame and what to do next -- no one wants to keep having the same problems crop up time after time. And ARMY -- whose money finances much of this work and the people -- has a right to help Big Hit do better as long as they treat everyone fairly. Quit being "a tool."
Fans need to stop nonsense
A member’s success is Big Hit’s success. Any promotion they do for their members will make more money for them. Why wouldn’t they want to do that? I believe it is each member’s choice to do what they want to do for their promotions.
Hybe had interested in harming Jimin solo bc they just wanted JK to be the one with the achivements since Jimin solo album wasnt handled by Hybe America like JK solo album. One thing is promo and another not having just single being restocked or having your song certificated after selling 1M and saving the certification for another member
@@veruskatorres9276 Отлично сказано!
What. All companies want to make money not lose money. You do know that all 7 bts members are shareholders in hybe. And all 7 bts members have business degrees. They all have control over their own solo. They decided their own promotion and who they work with.
All 7 bts members hired their own legal teams that negotiate with their company.
Hybe has no control over when albums or songs get certified. Hybe has no control over shipping. All cds and merchandise are made by tree factory. And distributors by ygplus and geffin records.
You can buy jimin cd from any store or online
@@nicoleloss7987 say you dont know a thing about business without saying you dont know a thing about business
Bighit is busy going down due to his preferences. It's too late for him to open his eyes. VBTS is a threat to him he gonna go down quicker than he thinks. Why has he not done to VBTS what he has done to the others. JUNGKOOK is being used he does not realize it. He is opening doors for BIGSHIT not for himself he has choices. Where is RM leader of the pack man up RM is that not what a leader is for.
Its only jk and jm. V is never treated like them .its really unfair
I have a request it is being reported that V/Kim Taehyung is now the richest member of BTS with $40 million, jumping over all other members? I see him reported to have $20 million, this is a crazy jump even with his many brand endorsements? What is true and what is solo stan fan promotion?
i think it is what Hybe deem good and what will sell well. they knew that v´s album would do well in asia mostly because they have the numbers and maybe most people who follow V are from asia who knows. but also the sound of the songs. i have to be real
V´s album was my least favorite of all of the members. it´s V´s album so yes i still like it for what it is, but the songs is not my style at all.
second is the rappers and i belive like you said that it´s very heard to get listeners because rap is meant to be heard it´s not about the music it´s more about the lyrics and flow. so that is just understandable. and they did go all out for J-hope even if he might not sell as well as vocalists.
and for Suga he did almost everything he did a whole tour. they had faith that he alone could sell out a tour. and he did he even added more.
and then we have Jimin and Jk who is the most likely to get high streams and sales in the US because of the music. Jimin has one mainstream song and a very popular kpop song all i one album. and alot of gems on the album too.
jk is the biggest star of BTS at least hybe see his potential for going global. he has the confidence, he has the manly astatic fitting in the western world. and he sings and performas amazing and he can nail english songs so well.
and he chose to get songs who is more than willing to give it to him. all songs was good and they wanted him to be the golden star.
they want to break into the US even more than they already did and jk was the ticket. it´s not about witch memeber is the best.
it´s about what will sell more. that is the Lables main goal.
Yeah, the company thought Jk was the ticket, in other words favoritism. They didn't count on Jimin being the first member and Asian to get #1 on the Billboard......they wanted that for Jk, thus the start of the sabotage which was right in Army's face. Those who choose to believe otherwise can stay in their hivemind. The rest of us will continue to call foul. Also, this has nothing to do with hating another members success or competition between them. This is strictly about the companies sabotage towards a certain member......yes in spite of their sabotage Jimin still has enormous success in his first album. All fans are asking for is restocking his album and submit his RIAA platinum certificate, like they did for Jk and V, Jimin earned it way back in August.
All I have to say is see them in 2025 at a group then all of this will stop
YOU TALK>>>>>>>> THEY ARE NOT TREATED EQUALLY THE COMPANY IS RESPONSIBLE DOES HE EVER THINK WHAT THE MEMBERS FEEL LIKE> DON'T TALK CRAB MR BANG WAS AGAINST V ALL ALONG IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT MUSIC HE JUST HATES V MAYBE IT HAS TO DO WITH BARAHAR SO WHY HE HAS BEEN PROMOTING ONE MEMBER ALL ALONG. MR BANG SHOULD HAVE SPENT TIME WITH ALL ARTISTS EQUALLY. ARE YOU HAPPY MR BANG WITH ALL THE MONEY YOU MADE FROM V WITHOUT SPENDING A PENNY YOU ONLY WANTED YOUR FAVOURITE TO SUCCEED GOOD LUCK TO BOTH OF YOU IN AMERICA WITH HIM AND HIS COLLABORATIONS BUT YOU COULD HAVE DONE THE SAME FOR V> YOU AND OTHERS SHOULD BE WONDERING HOW V LOOKS AT THINGS MENTALLY WOULD YOU LIKE IT V MAY MAKE OUT HE IS OKAY BUT THAT COULD DESTROY PEOPLE> ONE PERSON IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SING AND DANCE DON't FORGET YOU SENT HIM TO AMERICA TO LEARN BEFORE DEBUT. V IS ALL HIS.OWN.
BTS asked us the trust them and I do. I trust their decisions regarding their solo works and how it is rolled out. i also trust that if they are not happy with they way something is being handled, they are grown adult men who did not get this far in their careers by being silent. Everyone does not have the same goals and aspirations. we should respect that and enjoy and support what they give us and not try to impose our wants on them. Trust BTS. It's that simple.
I think fans should remain vocal, but they should do so after careful consideration of the facts.
No. All 7 bts members have control over their own solo. They decided their own promotion. And they have said this many times.
All 7 bts members are shareholders in hybe.
Fans need stop.
All 7 bts members are grown man with business degrees.
And all 7 bts members hired their own legal teams to negotiate their contract with bighit/ hybe
I watched a video from BoraCity where it was explained the way of each member's promotional strategies along with their target market and that's probably the reason why they have different way of promoting it and such. Also, they have different genres which should really be targeting the right people. I think it's very important to respect each member and don't drag them down. I mean, most people have their bias but it doesn't mean we're gonna throw hate to other members. They don't deserve it. If you'll think about it, each of them love each other and as she mentioned, they will not wish any harm to anyone. I hope at this point, solo stans can also respect that. It's okay to voice out your ideas/comments but don't drag others down. BTS members are smart people and I think they have their liberty to do what they want and how they want on their solo albums. Each member's success is the group success. Instead of attacking other members, why not support them as well. At the end of the day, they all belong in one group and they are family. I think BTS will appreciate ARMY even more during their Solo era. Just my two cents. #Apobangpo #Borahae
Thank you for this video.
Love this❤
Да пошла та компания нахрен,так как она обращается с ребятами,им наплевать на их жизнь,только деньги нужны.
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