Fender Tone Master PRO vs Neural DSP Quad Cortex: Which is the king of the amp modelers?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video we will compare the Tone Master PRO vs the Quad Cortex. First of all we will hear the 2 units in action with a demo song, then we will compare the features offered by both the units, with a very detailed comparison chart, also comparing the latency. Then will hear more sounds, checking out how the units sound and feel compared to a real tube amp, and finally I will give you my 2 cents!
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⏰Timecodes:
0:00 - Into
0:52 - Demo Song (Tone Master vs Quad Cortex)
3:46 - Comparison Chart
18:33 - More Sound: into
20:48 - More Sound: Tone Master Quad Cortex vs Deluxe Reverb
22:01 - More Sound: Tone Master Quad Cortex vs Plexi
23:30 - More Sound: Tone Master Quad Cortex for Delays
24:51 - More Sound: Feel and Dynamic Range Mng
30:05 - My 2 cents
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Thank you, you are the best, the most impartial and the one with the best analysis on all of TH-cam ❤
Hi, thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments that really make me happy!!!!
Leo, your videos are the benchmark for modeler comparisons, every minute worth watching!
WOW, thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments!!! Really appreciated!
Leo, thank you very much for all your hard work! I truly appreciate it. Fantastic comparison! Extremely helpful… great playing as always!
Thank you so much; I'm really happy that you find the video useful and of course that you like the playing!!!
As always I was looking forward to your video on this unit. Very informative, great work!
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!!
So much effort and hard work you put for this comparison .Mad respect to you
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos and recognise the effort!!!
I hope this means Fender have invested in strong future updates of Firmware etc and really immerse themselves fully into the modeller world.
I think a Helix 2.0 with Profiling etc would sway me as I think Line 6 have been very good to us regarding the richness of updates.
Great playing and dedication as always Leo, well done !
Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the playing!!!
Yes, there is a lot of space for improvements with FW upgrades...like new amps, new cabs, etc.
I do agree...Line 6 is doing a great job in upgrading theyr unit via FW...I was impressed by the FW 3.5
Thank you!
This is, hands down, the finest review of these two great processors. And, it is great to see someone actually purchasing both for the review, instead of relying on the company to send a free sample for "review" (in other words, compensation in exchange for a good review). Your independence brings so much more gravity to your work and findings. Great stuff!!
Thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments!!!! I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!!
Leo, your comparisons are so good. Using real amps that you live mic’d and then shot your own IRs from makes all the difference. Also, using short clips with the real amp in between makes it much easier to hear any differences. Great job and thanks for giving us these helpful reviews!
You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!! Thank you for all these amazing compliments!!!
Thank you! You are doing a great job showing the new equipment.
Thank you soooo much!!!
Another quality review/comparison from you Leo! Thanks!
Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
another fantastic video, Leo! i really appreciate your work -- it has more thought than other TH-cam guitar videos and you're so good at explaining the practical applications of technical features. i'm looking forward to seeing how the TMP evolves with firmware updates. one aspect of the TMP that i'm interested to learn more about is how using the loops effects latency; hopefully you get to cover that in a future video.
Thank you so much for such amazing compliments!!!!
Yes, I'm gonna do a latency dedicated video...I'm also curious to check out how latency sum up using all those external loops....
Thank you!
Another great video Leo. Congrats!
Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!
Ur intro songs are incredible. I remember being blown away by things like Flying in a Blue Dream when I was growing up. Your intros are at that level IMO
Wow, considering that Joe is one of my hero...this is really a super compliment!!! I can not tell you thank you enough and for sure this is a great encouragement for making better music!!!!
Thank you so much!
great review as always!!👍
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!
Nice one Leo. Excellent comparison video as always!!
Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
best comparisons on yt
Thank you sooo much!!!
thank you for that amazing quality content Leo
You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
Damn. When you said I'm one and you are almost 30 thousand it hit me. You should have had at least 3 times the subscribers you have now. I'm sure you will get there as your work is really top quality as it could possibly be.
I also wonder when all the other units will catch up with what Roland has achieve in terms of latency.. it's the number one factor that makes me feel I'm not missing out with all the other units.. But both units sound great. As everything does now days with enough tweaking.
take care Leo!
Thank you so much for you nice words!!!! Thank you also for sharing you opinion...and yes, so far BOSS latency is the best, together with NUX.
Great review Leo, thank you
You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!
Both units are amazing to me! I love the work that each of these companies have put into their amp modeling products.
Thank you so much for sharing!!!
Great playing as always.
Thank you so much!!!!
I think these are the best reviews on TH-cam. You bring both musicianship and technical knowledge of the gear.
Hi Isaac, thank you soooo much for such an amazing compliment!!!!
@@LeoGibsonGtr it is well deserved my friend
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Was seriously waiting for you to drop one of them off your knees at the end there! 😳😄
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Thank you, Leo, for this thorough in-depth comparison - you've put a lot of work in it! Very useful! I prefer the sound of Fender Tone Master Pro though, as it is closer to the real amp (to my ears and taste), as the real amps in your test are also somewhat darker and mellower than both amp modellers. I also prefer the size and tougher tank-built-look of Fender, which might work better for the stage conditions - but I have to try out both units myself in person in order to have a well-based opinion - this is just my impression from the video test.
You are welcome, I'm happy that you like the video and thank you also for sharing your opinion and your findings!!!
The best “gear comparison “ chanel ever!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thank you for such an amazing compliment!!!!
Grazie Leo per le tue eccellenti recensioni, sempre utilissime!
Inoltre vorrei complimentarmi con Te non solo per la tua evidente bravura “Chitarristica” ma soprattutto per la composizione dei tuoi brani e, cosa che trovo veramente magnifica, l’uso della voce ad accompagnare varie linee melodiche insieme alla Chitarra.
Complimenti Leo 🙂
Wow, grazie davvero per questi bellissimi compimenti! Sono veramente felice che ti piacciano le mie composizioni...per me è super importante! Sono anche contento che hai notati le voci e che ti piacciano!
Grazie veramente per aver trovato il tempo di scrivermi!
Great as always. Very interesting.
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!
Thank You so much for all this videos , You are the Best..❤
You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!
Great job AND great playing, like always !... and that wonderful accent...
Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video... and the accent!!! 😀
Perfect review, Leo! I also agree with what you said about visual beauty and esthetics. As you said, as we grow older we want to see that artistic visual beauty which gets us inspired to play. 🙂👍
Thank you soooo much!!! Yes, I totally agree....😀 music...art...beauty....things that go together....😀
Great review and super music, as usual 👍👋👋👋
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the music!!! Thank you for taking the time to live a feedback: it means a lot to me!!!
Another great video. I loved the demo song. Your effort and dedication is something else Leo. Sincere thanks to you for all what you offer.
Thank you sooooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video and the music!!!
Really appreciated!!!
Fractal. Great playing as usual!!
Thank you so much....when you like my playing ... I'm super happy!!
@@LeoGibsonGtr I still can’t believe the edits! It’s so real when you and your brothers all play in same room!
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Great review and great music
Thank you sooo much...when you like my music...I'm super happy!!!
Grazie Leo another great review. I will wait until next year for the Fender Tone Master Pro pawn shop edition. Less money and more amps, cabs and fx's. I can't believe they let this one out of the gate like this.
Grazie a te, sono contento che ti piaccia il video!!!
Posso chiederti dove hai sentito della pawn shop edition?
Grazie ancora!!
Excellent comparison video Leo. You do these better than anyone on TH-cam. @majikband loves Leo.
Thank you sooo much for such amazing compliments!!! Really super appreciated!!!
Love your videos.
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
Great review! I am surprised no company has offered a power section for powering external pedals as that seem like a must have. The last unit that wowed me was the TC Electronics G System because is was far ahead of it's time. I think AI is going to be playing a larger role as that is the next evolution in processors.
Thank you, I'm happy that you like the review! That's a good point...outlets for external pedals would be nice and useful! Yes, AI profiling is already a great option...NAM docet.
Thank you!
The best reviewer on the TH-cam. Cheers Leo
Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!
Hello Leo,
Thanks a lot for this video. I was looking to buy the Quad Cortex a lot, and since Fender put out the Tone Master Pro, I hesitated. Since your video is well explained and well documented, I'm gonna go with the Quad Cortex. Suits my needs more than the Fender.
Once again, thank you Leo !
You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!
Thanks for your honest review. It's rare now a days in the internet.
You are welcome and thank you so much for such great compliment!!!
That was a great in depth look at both units..i decided to go with the tone master pro because it was $200 cheaper and its newer but thank you for that analysis...
You are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!!!
Thank you also for sharing your final decision!
really good work
Thank you so much, really appreciated!
I was hoping what I call "The Pope of Tone" to do a video like this. Rock on your holiness Leo!
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😀😀😀👍...God Bless You!
I clicked 'like' before even watching the vid, bravo Leo!
😀...Grazie 1000!!!!
Finally 🔥🔥
😀👍...this video took me an infinite amount of time....😀
Thank you for your patience!
The Tone Master is a lot bigger than I realized. I have a Helix, Axe-Fx III and a Quad Cortex. I think they all sound different and love them all for what they do. I don't see at this point I would need to add the Tone Master to my collection. With the addition of the desktop editor for the Quad Cortex and also a firmware update to it since yesterday it's what most people wanted and Neural has delivered even though it took a lot longer than their customers had hope but so far it has worked flawlessly.
Hi, yes, I have also realised how big the TMP is...just after comparing it to the QC...I expected the TMP to be smaller, actually. Thank you also for sharing your opinions and your findings!
Leo, your reviews just getting better and better! I used my ears..and I agree, the Neural just sounds better. Also, profiling is a powerful "future-proof" feature. I think Fender gets some of its efforts right...but in the end, the ears have to be satisfied and the user has to find it easy to CREATE. We are artists, after all. So, the Fender falls just a little short. But both will make alot of musicians happy. Thank You.
Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!!
Thank you also for sharing your opinions and your findings!!!
Agree 100% with your 2 cents. QC desktop editor is out and it's fantastic. QC tones and ease if use make it a winner. However, all these units sound really good and you can't go wrong with any modeler or real amp for great tone today.
Thank you so much for sharing your findings!!
Thank you Leo , you helped make my decision easier and I’ve gone with the neural machine
You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!!!
which powered speaker would you recommend with it ?@@LeoGibsonGtr
Hi, I use my studio monitor or I go directly into the mixer for live use, therefore I don't have experience in that topic. I've a heard very positive feedback about the Friedman FRFR speakers...If I had to choose, I would probably select those ones.
Thank you!
Thanks Leo! Always super professional videos! I have a Kemper with power amp and the cabinet, and I am really happy! Do you thing QC with power amb and a cabinet is better?
Hi, thank you so much for such nice words!!!
If you are happy with your device, I would not change.
Nonetheless, I have done a comparison video between the two units, that you may want to check out: th-cam.com/video/kfTiZIfkOZs/w-d-xo.html
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr you are the beast! Gracie!
I think you bring up a great point about the ToneMaster being young. A really interesting project would be to compare ToneMaster with QC/Helix/etc. with their initial release firmware.
Personally, profiling isn't a feature I care that much about since that's why I buy those units is for others to do that work, lol. But, I also don't think every unit needs that, because at that point, they're all becoming too much the same. They all sound great now, so I don't think you can really go wrong with anything these days.
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion and your findings!
Thank you!
You are welcome!
You guys are so fortunate to have the choice these units at around the price.
In Australia the QC is a thousand dollars more expensive and not always available
Hi, thank you for sharing and I'm sorry for your situation with these devices.
I hope things will improve in future.
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr thank you for the kind words Leo but no need to be sorry .
We still have access to all these incredible devices they just cost more like everything else we get
The bi product of living on an island at the bottom of the world 🙏🏻
I see, thank you for sharing!
In a blind test no one could tell the difference in the intro. They all sound good 😊
Awesome comparison, lol @ QC app coming soon, they have been saying that for 2 years.
I agree with your findings the QC is the better device right now.
Hi, thank you, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Yes, the QC app took a lot of time...but at least finally it's here....
Really great video, maybe it will be interesting to take in count the release date and how many updates has adquired each product. To this point, Fender product is kind of a baby using dipers vs Quad Cortex as a teenager
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
Yes, the TMP is in its infancy...I do agree...
Another amazing video!
Thank you Jon, really super appreciated!!!!
Leo, a superb video as always!
I would like to see the tonex in one of the fx loops and what your findings are on the latency.
Thanks!
Thank you sooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
Interesting point about the ToneX in the loop...therefore adding profiling capabilities to the machine....thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr looking forward to a new high quality video Leo😉🤓
Thank you!
Leo, amazing work as always. Curious: which are your top 2 modelers at this moment? In terms of feel and sound? Thanks in advance!
Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
Well, I prefer not to say what I'm using outside videos....as it would be a sort of black and white opinion out of the blue and without a context, that would maybe influence someone in the wrong direction...
Thank you for your patience
Excellent as always, Leo! Just curious, are there any Dumble model inside the Tone Master Pro?
Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
So far no Dumble model is available.
Thank you!
Hi Leo! I sold my Quad Cortex I had for a year. I bought the TMP. I do not have any amps or pedals that I needed to model so the capturing was not important to me. I like the UI of the TMP. My needs are way simpler than many people. I do not use many effects or different presets. Frankly my little pedalboard with Keeley Compressor Plus, Keeley AT Super Mod, UA Dream 65, and Keeley Halo is what I have been using at church and it is my sound.
So why even have an all in one modeling unit? For the fun of it! I like being able to use the TMP and it's built in Bluetooth to play along with songs at home. I also like how it has the Scribble Strips so I always know what I have going on. I always consider your videos to be the best on TH-cam. You are very valuable to me and many others. Thank you for this top notch work you are doing for the entire music community. God bless you and all you love.
Hi Brian, thank you so much for sharing your experience and your findings!!!
I love to hear the experience of our community!!!
I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos and to be of some help!!!
Thanks Leo!! Great comparation, the cuad cortex for me sounds a lot better
Hi, you are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!
Thank you also for sharing your findings!
Best channel and all the information others don't tell. May I ask, which guitar pick you are using? Thanks
Hi, I'm using the stock pick up of the two Suhr models I'm playing in this video...the V60LP in my classic antique (which I love) and the Suhr SSH+ in the Modern.
Thank you!
Thanks for the great review. I made a very similar comparison and despite I really wanted to like the Fender device (as it is very convenient to use), the sound quality of other than Fender amps is lacking vs the Quad Cortex. When it comes to Fender amps, you can get the same results with the QC or FM3 using the same IR. Also the overdrive section in the Fender device was not really convincing as being more "digital" sounding when used with the amp sims. I will send my Fender device back :-(
You are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!!
I'm also happy that you have got the same results I have obtained...very interesting...thank you for sharing!
Ottimo Leo, Salutti a tutti.
Grazie mille ed un caro saluto anche a te!!!
AWESOME VID, amazing playing and comparison. That's funny hearing a Marshall amp sim on a FENDER modeler. 🤣
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
Yes....it's funny...but Fender needs to improve their Marshall models...
Awesome!
Thank you soooo much!!!
My choise would be based first of all based on tone. QC seems a bit better, after features like profiling. QC wins again. Last of all, I would like a smaller size because I would like to use it with to external pedal I have. Which means QC again. The things that the Tonemaster does better I don't care that much about. And the Tonemaster doesn't have enough high gain models. Well yet...
Hi, thank you for sharing your findings and you choice!
Excellent video and demo song as always Leo. The Tone Master is a good looking unit, but it's missing a lot of key features the QC already has. Like you said, the Fender is in its infancy, so we shall see what support Fender offers. Like another statement a commentor made, if Line 6 made a Helix 2.0 and incorporated the new features the QC/Tone Master have, I'd probably buy that first due to their history of updates and support, but that's just my personal opinion. Can't wait to see how your opinion may change over time while using the Tone Master (or if you sell it or stop using it for any reason). Keep up the good work. God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍
Thank you so much: I'm super happy that you like the song!
Yes, we have to hope in regular firmware upgrades...for instance in order to add amps, cabs, etc....something Fractal, Line 6, BOSS have done a lot in the past...and are actually continuing doing...This Fender platform for sure needs time to mature and evolve.
Thank you!
I'm of the opinion that everybody doesn't need to copy everybody else. If they do, why have more than one or two companies making these things?
@@Scott__C I agree with you about innovation. Profiling is a key feature of the QC and Kemper and not having that ability in the Fender product that costs the same is a con for purchase. If Fender's modelling sounds as good or better than profiles, it may be a moot point eventually.
I do agree!
Nice review, Leo! Yes, QC have more flexibility. But, new tone pro is "too green "😊. So, let see after. Btw, after installation of Cortex Control Beta my PC has a Blue Dead screen, so be careful!
Thank you, I'm happy that you like the video!!!!
Yes, I really hope that Fender will keep coming FW upgrades....thank you also for sharing the problems of the QC app....
Leo! Love your videos and your knowledge. Do you have any Kemper Profile packs for sale? Would be very interested.
Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!
I have some profiles here: www.leogibsonguitar.com/shop-online/p/leo-soldano-prof
Thank you for your interest in my work!!!
Great review dude! Thanks. So my Quad Cortex is not outdated… 😅
You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
Thanks to FW upgrade the QC platform is still nice ... 😀
Great job as always, greetings from Brazil.
Im a Line6 Helix LT user and was curious about your impressions about Tone Master PRO.
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video and thank you for your patience....this video tooks me a lot of tome....more than I actually expected....
Actually, your opinion is pretty important. I think Fender has a great product there, but it is 2 years behind Quad Cortex and it is anyone's guess when they will catch or surpass the competition. I don't personally need profiling, but that may be a big deal for many. It still seems to me that Axe FX 3 is the top modeler out there, but it costs a bit more. Thank you for another great review, Leo.
You are welcome, I'm really happy that you like the video and thank you also for sharing your opinion! For sure we need more FW iterations...at least to increase the amps available....let's cross out fingers....
Thank you!
Great playing. Im hoping someone will provide an in depth look at the amp modeling structure and see if there are ways to modify amp models to switch tubes and other parameters changes ala Axe FX, just for flexibility.
Thank you! So far, these possibilities are not available in the Tone Master PRO and actually neither in the Quad Cortex. It is something where Fractal has really the edge...and that's a great option to have.
Thank you!
wow! let's go for a new excellent video
Thank you sooooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!
yes! we get Leo the review!
😀👍 Thank you!
Astonishing work Leo, but just a question: fractal FXlll seems to be the best but its also old and probably will be replaced soon by fractal, do you think the QC would be a better option thinking in long term instead buying now a FXlll??
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! I don't have the FXIII, as I have only the FM3. I would say that FXIII and QC serve different purposes. I mean the QC is pretty portable, has profiling procedure and it's pretty easy to be used. The FX III is bigger and bulkier, and harder to take around for live gigging (I'm not saying it is impossible...but it is for sure harder to bring around than QC). Furthermore it does not have profiling, but it has amazing tweaking options....for instance you can chance the impedance curve, the mic pres...etc....
So, it really depends on your needs.
Thank you!
I prefer the smaller size of the QC. It’s light weight and fits in my gig bag.
I also like that the QC has two XLR inputs. I play acoustic and I use an acoustic preamp (Fire-Eye Red-Eye) with the QC. The preamp can be powered up by using phantom power from the QC. My vocal microphone is attached to the other XLR input on the QC. So for this use case (acoustic + vocal) I really appreciate having two XLR inputs.
With electric guitar I’ve found that Amalgam captures work well for me. I.e. I like captures in the QC.
I play bass as well so the bass amps are useful for me in the QC.
What I miss in the QC is the desktop editor, longer IRs, USB-C and plugins.
I’d like to use the QC as a simple mixer as well. With the current UI this is quite difficult. If I understood correctly Fender has addressed this?
The scribble strips seem really nice!
I can’t wait to see how the Tone Master Pro will evolve in the future. The hardware seems promising and I would assume Fender has good resources to develop the software.
Thank you for sharing your experience! Good points about the double XLR inputs...I do agree with you
Thanks!
Excellent video... to my ears the QC still remains the current "tone master", but the Fender unit is good and looks like fun to play through.
Thank you both for the compliment and for sharing your opinion!!!
agreed the amps seem more accurate and dynamic sounding also 27 amp models for a 1700 dollar pedal is a rip off hope they add 20 more at least
@@SirPraiseSundidn’t the QC initially launch with 20 some?
Leo you are so inspiring.
Thank you soooo much for such an amazing compliment!!!!
QC profile captures feature goes further than even just capturing your own amps, being able to download other people's captures for amps you don't own is fantastic. Add to that Neural recently adding support for their archetype plugins running from the QC, and it just shot to top spot for me, even over the AXE FX. The number of bands and content creators I've seen using the QC live is also pretty staggering, It's either QC or AXE FX3 on stage and at this point I think I see an equal number of both in people's racks
Thank you for sharing your experience and your opinions!
My opinion is that your demo song was fantastic.
Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!! When you like my music...I'm super happy!!!
Hi Leo, i like your in depht reviews very much. Any chance that you make a review of the St. Rock Amperium? I know it is a not so well known device but the toneshaping features are outstanding and very unique
Thank you sooo much, I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!
Actually a couple of months ago I ask them to send me a unit to try....and they ask me to pay the full price with just a little discount...I'm sorry, but I can't pay for every gear to test....and it also mean that they don't appreciate too much the channel....which is of course fine...but well, I'm not going to spends weeks in testing that unit....if they even don't appreciate the channel....
@@LeoGibsonGtr thank you for your fast reply. I can fully understand that you are not willing to pay for every gear and it is a bit poor from them if you keep in mind that you are near 30.000 subsribers. Anyway thank you and keep on the got work 😊
Thank you so much for your comprehension and your support!!!
That more sound section was very helpful! I think the Tonemaster has the same models of the 300 euros fender digital amp, very dark and flat. If you mess up the plexi model, then it's red flag
Hi, thank you for sharing your findings!!!
Thanks a lot ^_^
You are welcome!!!
Not a fan of the predefined paths on the fender tone master, honestly that's a deal breaker for me, especially at that price, I love how creative I can get even in my "limited" hx stomp (and believe me, I have).
On a side note, I love your comparison videos man, so much detail, and also, I love how you use the same IR for everything, effectively comparing the amps/profiles in completely neutral ground. Keep this going!
Thank you so much, I'm really super happy that you appreciate the video!
I do agree with you....I also prefer total freedom in creation patches, not been limited by predefined paths....
Re the Tonemaster, 44.1kHz is the sample rate for A/D conversion, which I believe is perfectly acceptable. That does not necessarily affect the distorted tones’ out of band accuracy. Distortion tones are routinely 2x or 4x or even higher oversampled. As new as the Tonemaster is, I feel safe assuming oversampling is used widely.
Thanks for scientific approach, especially measuring latencies. Side question, do you know any modeler that can emulate “amp in the room sound” thru FRFR cabinet, like Line 6 power cab, when same full range speaker can sound like different guitar speakers (creamback, greenback, etc)? Not the sound of a cab recorded with a microphone, as all modelers do…
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No, I don't...I'm sorry
Awesome
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Ciao Leo, quello che hai spiegato lo condivido pienamente , anche io ho fatto un test di comparazione tra le due macchine, ma ...personalmente preferisco Quad cortex !!!
Grazie mille! Sono contento che abbiamo ottenuto gli stessi risultati!
At 31:31 you say that you wanted to compare more overdriven models available in both units as well as real amp.
What about the EVH5150 down on the floor to your right, I've heard it's somewhat overdriven?
The problem is that the TMP has the stealth version, and I have the normal one....so I guess that there are some differences....I will give it a try in future videos....even if I'm not 100% sure it is gonna be an "apple to apple" comparison
Hi Leo, I was waiting for your thoughts on Fender unit. I currently have Kemper Stage and Hx Stomp XL + Tonex. I use kemper for only recording because I've heard it has a lot of switch problems if you use heavily. For band practice and stage do you think Fender or Quad Cortex would be a better / easier solution than Stomp+Tonex? Should I upgrade? I heard both of them are 3+ ms latency. I like the drives on stomp and amps on Tonex. For other effects nobody compares delays or reverbs of these units...
Hi, Stomp and ToneX are a great couple. With TMP or with the QC you are gonna have an all in one unit...therefore somehow you are simplifying. On the other hand you are gonna drop a lot of money...so I'm not completely sure it is worth to spend all those money...
My QC is save :-) great video, as always
Thank you sooo much!!!
@@LeoGibsonGtr your most welcome! Thank you for the great content - musical taste and technical mastery meet with a scientific mind in your videos - quite unique!
WOW, thank you for such amazing compliments that really make me happy and push me forward to make more and better!
Thank you Leo for this comparison. I own Pod Go which is ok. I jut play for fun and sometimes play in gigs. Do you think that upgrading to Quad cortex it will be big step ? Thanks again
Hi, you are welcome!!!!
The POD GO is a nice machine...compared to the QC has some limitation, like the possibility to make and load profiles, or the more complex signal chain in the QC. If these things are important for you, I would say that it is worth upgrading. Otherwise, with the saved money you can by a better FRFR system, or other gear you may be wanting.
@@LeoGibsonGtr thank you very much
Thanks Leo. I have a similar opinion. But who knows if Fender will introduce capture technology in a future update. All the IO is there, so it is only on the software side of things that has to be tweaked. To be honest I expect Fender to introduce this in a year or two and just boost the unit again as if it was a new one. Not one unit on the market can beat the Form and the UI factor, imo. Now imagine to have the capturing thing in there.
Yes, I do agree....the unit has already all it is needed to create profiles...they have just to develop the software....and they can even take NAM...which is great and open source....it would be amazing to have NAM in this unit....
Thank you!
Great video, Leo! Greetings from Brazil! Could you tell us what you prefer between Tone Master pro and Headrush Prime? Thank you
Hi, thank you so much!
I don't have the Prime...therefore I can't tell from direct experience....but the missing computer app and the primitive cab simulation section in the Prime make me think that I would prefer the Tone Master
Thank you!
Thank you so much for your reply@@LeoGibsonGtr Keep doing your reviews, they are great and help us a lot.
You are welcome and thank you for such nice words!!!
you are an amazing player
Hi Jim, thank you so much for this great compliment that really makes me happy!!!
It's been a little over a year with my QC, and that initial buy kind of love, hasn't worn off.
Hi, thank you for sharing your experience!!!
Excellent video, I wish the tone master, had something for the bass guitar? I just bought the Fender? now I'm not sure? I love the screen better on the Fender. I could return it. And get a cortex? I don't have that many amps to do profiling. They both sound great and I have my line 6 to do bass tracks. The Fender is definitely better sounding than the stomp box, line 6. At the end of the day it's all about you playing. Whatever you have, you make some good. Excellent video and surprising. Thank you!!!!!
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
I would suggest you to check out the user manual...I was not able to find bass amps....maybe they will be added in the future, even we don't know Fender plans...so we can't be 100% sure it will happen.
Thank you!
Great video. Tone Master Pro vs. Fractal FM3?
Thank you soooo much! Yes, that's something I would like to do....