Every Old School Bodybuilder Did These 5 Things!
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Every Old School Bodybuilder Did These 5 Things!
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01: High frequency training as in full body three times a week.
02: Basic movements, as in free weights (don't use machines).
03: Pump training.
04: They focused on building a solid base of strength.
05: They worried more about how they looked in the mirror than counting numbers (scale weight, calories, weight on the bar, etc.).
thanks for bringing the old school bodybuilding backkkk!!! too many people are over analyzing every little detail in thier programs and workout that they forget why they even workout to begin with. stick to the basics, get an understanding of how your body wants to train(volume, frequency etc) and than start building up from there. when all is said, just don complicate things, go hard eat well and sleep plenty :)
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Exercise not only changes your body. It changes your mind, attitude & mood
Serge Nubret worked out at my local gym in an Albuquerque suburb in the early 90s. I was in high school and had just started lifting seriously. My sister and brother-in-law came to visit us one year and my b.i.l. being 10 years older than me and into lifting for a long time himself by then, went to my gym with me while in town. He saw Serge and it was like he saw a celebrity. He told me who he was and showed me Pumping Iron. Then I realized who that big guy always in the gym really was. Never interacted with him but it was pretty cool that one of the old school legends worked out at my gym. He was still huge and cut back then, too. I had never seen such a massive human in real life before. I don't think since, either. He might have even been bigger then he was in his Pumping Iron days. I think him just being in the gym at the same time as me made me work harder.
He use to send steroids to my girlfriend once a month, April Nicotra.
I see too many young kids using way too much weight and can't get off their phone to even get a pump. So hopefully this video gets in their routine.
I see a lot of older men doing far to much weight as well. Because of the excessive weight, their form is comical, but they believe that they are studs.
Hopefully not I like standing out lol
Pete’s content is absolute gold. When you start to get an understand of how BB works you realize he isn’t telling you what you wanna hear but rather what the actual truth is that changes the body. 💪🏼💯
Diannabol was king back then.
It has been studied in the lab that the pump is actually a facillitator for growth, along with tension and metabolite secretion. The bros had it right and the science caught up.
Pump doesn't gaurantee growth. Only if you trained to failure to force an adaptive response. And then were smart and disciplined enough to rest long enough for full recovery and adaptation to actually take place. And this is where 99% of weight trainers fall short. And why it takes people 10 years to get to a place you should in 2. I could get pumped 3 times a day lifting light weights. I would not grow..
@@stevemann1299 yea whatever u say bro 😂😂😂 weird flex man
@@Georges-yu8sh
Im serious. A pump will happen as soon as any exercise is done. But think about it for a moment if you grew everytime you got a pump you'd have 30 inch arms and a 60 inch chest in a year. Muscle growth is a slow process. Especially for us naturals. And a 60 year old like me. A quarter inch a year is a gift. Maybe when youre my age you will understand. All the best....
Dude you're fundamentally misreading everything here. I'm not saying you grow to the size of your pump overnight. Are you okay? Just that it's one of the factors that lead to increased growth, like tension or metabolite secretion. And guess what when you train to failure? There is tension on the muscle, metabolite secretion, and a pump. In a clinical setting, people have manipulated these variables up and down to see results. You're just trying to flex your useless knowledge here and age. I don't need the advice of an old head who disagrees with people on principle just to say a less intelligent version of what the person they're disagreeing with is saying.
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And im saying it doesn't unless you force the body into a corner. Where It has to make a change because its under threat. Understand this. Your body doesn't want to grow. Muscle goes against the bodies metabolic state. You have to give it a good reason to expand those fibres. And that reason is pushing to a new high the bodies not used to. Whether its another rep or a bit more weight. The pump is just a by product of the exercise process. It in no way determines future growth. Just like bodybuilders will pump up before they go out on stage. They arent going to grow from it properly. They are just forcing blood into the muscles to give a temporary size increase to look their best..
And this is why out of all the millions of men who work out. Not even 5% get anywhere near their genetic potential. They are overtraining or not training to failure to cause an adaptive response. Pump and soreness do not mean growth. If you didn't reach a new high. Mike Mentzer was telling people this 40 years ago.
And only now people are starting to realize he was right. And drop all this junk volume. And tighten up their training. Quality over quantity.
Those training principles worked!
Great video!
Thank you for your hard work, dedication, and sharing your knowledge!
It is much appreciated!
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Please keep it coming!
Probably the. First training channel i have no gripe with ! How odd. But then I started in 1965, old school ..still lifting heavy at 75, scared of PEDS so not big but still strong. Thank you for this refresher ! Good stuff. 👍🏽
You are simple on point what you have said.. facts
Excellent & Appreciated 💯
Thanks great info, 👍
Thanks again sir. Some of that stuff never occured to me, but when I hear it I'm like oh ye of course. Always good content
Great video!
Thanks!
Great video 👍🏿
Old School is the best!
I think pump is a great indicator of a good workout as you said, however I think the pump should be persued with mindfulness, meaning by still applying proximity to failure or even failure itself
i worked for a old man back in 1980, eh was around 70, he wrestled in collage, in the 30's he was one bad looking man, his homemade weights consisted of rail road tracks cut to size and locomotion wheels welded to solid rods, and he tossed fn big boulders, at 70 he was still strong as a bull
I enjoy the no bullshit to the point videos. Stay Strong
Great video
Arnold had access and did numerous cable exercises not just barbell and body weight
Agree with everything that was said.. I think the biggest plus for pump training for the natural bodybuilder is the nutrient partitioning it gives.. it gives a strong signal to the body that it wants it's nutrition to the muscles instead of the fat cells...plus helps restore tendon and ligament strength and recuperation...
Anything good in life comes from effort and hard work.
These days people are looking for any excuse to avoid the work.
My fav old school guy is Marvin Eder. Unreal natural strength and aesthetics.
hi, i got question about your 5 day old school bodybuilding program. in the day 3 in the second exercises (dumbbell fly's and barbell rows) do i need to do 5 working sets of these exercises or 2 warmup sets and 3 working sets like in previous days?
Very good video
Bigger was never better “frank zane is most peoples ideal size
You can always do dumbbell floor presses. No bench necessary. You might need a partner to help you get heavy DBs onto your thighs, but after that, no problem. And they are very safe for your shoulders. If you fail, the floor stops your shoulders from going any lower. Just let the DBs drop under control to the floor.
3:43 "Everybody in Arnold Era used to take caffeine as their pre workout except for some people, few weird people used to take Meth as pre-workout"
Bro roasted Mike Methzer 💀
Based mentzer
Don't Fuk with Mike Mentzer he is the God of HIT. His training methods gave me gains no 3 times a week crap ever could.
@@stevemann1299Mentzers not bad but overrated af tbh
BWAHAHHAHA this guy man
@@tomashorst9544
No the TRUTH can never be overrated. He should be the most celebrated bodybuilder who ever lived. He sacrificed alot of fame and MONEY. To bring forth the truth for naturals like myself. Before I found Mentzer and his HIT. My arms had measured 15 inches and chest 44 inches for 25 fukin years. I couldnt break past those numbers as a natural WHY?
Because unbeknownst to me I was so fukin overtrained. Listening to all the volume pushers. My body refused to give me anymore.
Then in 2004 for my 40th birthday. I was given HEAVY DUTY II mind and body. This was what I needed to read. (As do still millions). When I read the chapters about training volume and frequency. I started the consolidation program. And in 13 months my arms measured 17.2 inches. My chest 48.5 inches At 5 7"..And I had gone from 168lbs to 184lbs. All my lifts of course headed north.
What I hadn't realized until Mentzer laid it out for me was my body needed at LEAST 5 days to recover and grow. And once I gave it that respect. My god it delivered.
And I will tell you something. Around the world as I write this MILLIONS of men don't realize they need alot more recovery time. And will basically be wasting their time for years. Many will never learn. And think they have crap genetics. Mentzer is the TRUTH. The only channels on youtube worth a hoot for the NATURAL are HEAVY DUTY COLLEGE. And Jay Vincent and Kevin Richardsons channels. If you truly want to learn how to reach you GP as a natural.
Very true
How about the old juice?
Training frequency is interesting. If you are enhanced it's definitely an easier road to travel esp. re joint recovery. I prefer to train bodyparts once a week however there is strong overlap between them. For example, chest and shoulders, hamstrings and calves, back and rear delts, forearms and biceps, chest and triceps, hamstrings and lower back. I train these all on separate days to each other but they all have strong overlap depending on exercises employed. As an example, nordic curl hip hinges are a great gastroc as well as hamstring movement as this muscle is also involved in knee as well as plantar flexion esp. when dorsi-flexed, hammer curls on forearm days hit the biceps as well as brachialis, pull ups hit the rear delts etc.
I'm from the old school. 98 percent of my weight training is free weights. You build a lot stronger core with free weights hence control and form is better. Always remember you only get out of it, what one is willing to put into it. Like everything in this world. people seem to think there's a magic pill for everything. Your doing more harm than good. Anyway Peter that was well presented.
Enjoy your videos Peter
Kool, simple & e.z. 2understand💓
They did a lot of DBol and Anadrol, that’s about it
Modern bodybuilders literally don't have an "off cycle" and still get mogged hard by people who went on minimal cycles just before a show.
Maybe you need to check who Melvin Wells and Arthur Harris is.. or any of the top guys from 40s and 50s...they blow away any of these TikTok gym bros any day.. probably including yourself...
Dummy
What is your opinion of Dorian Yates HIT training? Can you make a video on his Blood and Guts training
do you have any advice for pull up training..... wait, let me rephrase.... so when my forearms are healthy (and i don't have elbow pain) i typically start my pull day workouts with 4 sets of pullups to failure.... the problem i'm experiencing is that my output drops precipitously....
so for example, let's say i fail at 30 on the first set, i can usually only BARELY get 20 on the second set (maybe 22)... third set i'm already down to 15, so literally HALF of just 2 sets ago, and the fourth is usually around 15 or less also...
i don't generally notice these types of drop offs in any other exercises when i get to flat weight sets (not pyramding up anymore)... in fact, in some exercises i may actually go UP in reps from set to same weight set (which only tells me of course, i should have had more effort in the previous set)
any advice?
In my option arguing about old school supremacy over modern or opposite direction is nonsense. Try to take best of both worlds, and do what works best for you specifically. May the Bloat be with you
Exactly. There's a lot of stuff about nutrition, supplementation and training that guys from that era got wrong. We have better machines , better nutrition and better information out there now. Why not utilise it and train as hard as those guys from back in the day. It's not always black and white.
old school is superior, cant tell me that someone who did old school compounds and old school diet would be less strong or muscular compared to a new school optimal bro eating ootimal meals and optimal sleep.
@@IronTrench613 yes, he could be
That's literally what he said though. He said wanted the old school body therefore he went with old school principles.
@@savyasachimukherjee6159
>better machines
Debatable. Studies show machines provide the same growth as free weights, even though they cost a fortune. My personal experience, machines suck. They force you into an angle, sometimes don't have enough ROM or even enough weight. With free weights you can lift in a more individualized pattern.
Outside of a basic cable machine and a few essentials (leg extension, hamstring curl) most machines are just a waste of space.
>better nutrition
Bodybuilders back in the day lived normal lives. The had parties on the beach, had steak dinners and barbeques and just enjoyed life. Bodybuilders nowadays eat like robots, periodic and planned. Is the advancement in diet science really useful to the average lifter? The average lifter simply doesn't have the money, resources or dedication to be on the modern bodybuilder diet.
>better information
we have overanalysis based on studies which mostly only monitor novice lifters. These results may or may not apply to seasoned lifters and certainly cannot adjust to individual bodies.
The human body has been the same for millennia, what traditional bodybuilders know from experience and anecdote largely holds true still.
We're all gonna make it brazzz
Mighty hard to beat the pre steroid bodybuilders- Steeve Reeves, Reg Park, John Grimek. Only 230 - 240 pounds at most but perfect proportions and solid as granite.
Peds we're very much available in this era
Did you use to have a video on how Arnold improved his chest? Where you point out that his chest used to not be his most dominant muscle group, comparing him to Nubret. And then moving on to discussing how he used the stretch, time under tension and some other tools to bring it up?
I swear I've seen that video and it was yours, but I can't find it
I followed weider barbell course 3 full body workouts 3x a week. Then after 3 months split routine where u did four workouts a week and the his power course which really worked great 3 times a week
6. We all ate raw eggs.
Strange to hear that what you did when you were younger is described as "old school." But it worked really well.
0:25 not everyone will get that pull up technique
If your goal are gigantic teres majors
don't forget the extra drugs/supps they used..nobody gets that huge without that boost! that's what a lot of these videos leave out!
Bro split works whilst on steds.
Their diets were all different too seemed like high protein high fats, all the ones I've researched too from bodybuilders, wrestlers, actors, all them guys back then were all monsters with great atheistics
Me doing T-bar rows seeing T-bar rows in the thumbnail😵💫
Pump training became prominent with gear usage, old school natural bodybuilders don't talk about the pump much if at all
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Serge nubret lifted "light", but just look at him
You talk about old-school but what about Mentzer's less frequency?
Mentzers training was not the norm back then (or now for that matter lol)
Pharmaceuticals have to be a major difference as well.
Genetics. Everything starts here
@thecastle09 Have genetics changed though?
4:10 " We used to have people like Arnold back then, now we have people like Sean to represent bodybuilding community, that's a disgrace "
Bro roasted Sean Optimalwanyj ☠
What about Mike Menzer and Ray Menzer and Frank Zane
I agree except with 4 of the 5 points you make. I think it isn't true at all that body builders didn't use machines. I think machines were a huge part of a lot of body builders programs and I generally associate machines more with body builders than for instance compound movements. Yes, free weights were heavily used by body builders but in conjunction with machines.
I think the best combination is using free weights, then using the machines as a finishing exercise after the free weights.
When You have a Pump Your Blood Transports the Nutrients quicker into the Muscles thats Why its Good to drink Your Protein in The Time Window when You still have a Pump
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When would Jay and Ronnie be considered “old school”?
Good question😂
No
you look like JOHN CASSAVETES
the pump builds muscle. science proven. the fullyness and pressure caused by the pump alone results in gains
you’re out here just making shit up
@@JorgeGonzalez-sx7fk Nope. It is. Look it up. Renaissance Periodisation made a video about it. But hey just dont Train and stay skinny
@@Angry_Lion RP mAdE a ViDeO aBoUt iT
The "pump" in your muscles is something that is ideal for muscle growth. Arnold talked about how the "pump" is the best feeling in your muscles that a lifter can possibly get. He compared it to cumming during sex. Basic definition of a pumped muscle is the fullness sensation a lifter gets while lifting weights and is the result of more blood, oxygen, and nutrients getting rushed into a working muscle. Science has shown a lifter is not maximizing their workouts without the pump. One of the main bodybuilding rules I abide by
No mate. He only said the 'better than cumming' line to help boost sales and promos of his pumping iron film.
you are repeating same 3 things every video, we get it. i asked you a question "i feel my bicep tendons more than biceps during curls. and i tried many methods yet failed" after you did q&a on your ig story. yet you couldnt even reply mine.
what is point of being bb content creator with years of experience if you cant even reply such question? i really hoped you'd reply but i guess i was wrong thinking you are helpful at all. im sure you gonna skip this too
Guy has 260k subs and dont know how much on IG and he gets shit when he doesnt answer your question? Lol
Grow up
@@flekatron2148 he replied a comment here with 260k subs on yt.. which means he reads the comments. he had q&a on instagram story which means he reads every question. and replied EVERY basic ass questions that everyone knows.. "progressive overload matters" no shit.. even 1 month beginner knows this. im telling again. did you learn anything from this guy other than anything commercial gym schmuck could tell?
and i saw your comment got a like in first minute. you liking your own comment?
Try dropping the weight. Our bodies are efficient at doing movements. Our tendons are a lot stronger than our muscles. When you go heavy the tendons can be inclined to take over.
@@joshdorrance8821 i do 20 rep maxes already. my trainer told me it was due to my weaker wrists compared to me going heavy on curls. i added suitcase holds (farmer carries dont do it anymore cause heaviest db here is 30kg) and during db curls i started twisting my hand on top which helped so far. ty
Those guys had great wastes. Great vacuum poses. Too much GH on the newbys all have huge guts. Looks terrible
ronnie was hella strong tf you are talking about
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5:23 he stole my work
what?
And roooooids-diz not old school bro
first yess hahaha
I hate revisiting this stupid argument over and over. Your muscles don’t give a damn if they are stressed by machine or free weight. Just place intense stress on the muscle using either one and results will follow.
You are right... But with free weights you add stress to the muscles that stabilize the movement.. That means there is more stress to your body that results to more growth
Why was my comment erased? I listed 5 things. Thats all i did. 😒
Guy figured nobody will watch his video then lol
What you listed?
@@BloatyB The five things he mentioned. I made a list. It was immediately erased. 🙄
YT deletes comments if it includes certain words
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1:43 " Sean! I am talking to you, Listen Up! My left leg is bigger than your whole physique. You understand?"
Bro just roasted Sean Optimalwanyj again 💀
Nope 👎
No worriors today in the gym with free weights like in the 70-80,s today the phone
is the in the center and people walks home with zero sweat, fools scared for pain!
Simple, what you wanted was a strong functional bodybuilding body! Today's training isn't as functional so the people look like a bunch of parts put together. No flow or functional look to them, I will say Andrew Jacked looks pretty functional but he's starting to loose a little of that as he climbs into the 330 range in weight. 😎