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  • @AlexanderBromley
    @AlexanderBromley  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    BaseStrengthAI is more reliable than a coach, cheaper than an Excel template!👇👇👇
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    Bromley Merch from Barbell Apparel only available HERE! 👇👇👇
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    • @jacobepetersen
      @jacobepetersen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't see the ebook on the Empire Barbell site, but would buy it if it becomes available!

  • @Supersmartandfunnyguy
    @Supersmartandfunnyguy ปีที่แล้ว +253

    Bromley's subscriber count is how many beers I would buy this man for his generousity and knowledge.

    • @jackdemoguitar
      @jackdemoguitar ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Alcohol is terrible for gains

    • @danktacofart4206
      @danktacofart4206 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He seems like a great guy probably not very generous or knowledgeable 85,000 beers deep tho

    • @Horus-Lupercal
      @Horus-Lupercal ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Truck 85,000 beers to his gym and don't tell him lol.

    • @alexmccann101
      @alexmccann101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Should be protein shakes 😢

    • @MotorcycleMan79
      @MotorcycleMan79 ปีที่แล้ว

      His liver is already ruined bro

  • @espenstoro
    @espenstoro ปีที่แล้ว +145

    This is what I appreciate, not just dropping a program and saying "have fun guys", but actually walking us through and showing us why it is the way it is, and for what purpose. Very helpful.

  • @firesupportman0861
    @firesupportman0861 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    You seriously have the best strength training content, Mr. Bromley.

    • @tjaytjay6246
      @tjaytjay6246 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t understand the program

    • @mattepton5731
      @mattepton5731 ปีที่แล้ว

      It so cool how many free highly effective training and tutorial programs there are out there, great information here,thank you so much and I hope you have a Happy New Year !

    • @justintemp
      @justintemp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mihailmilev9909 hi, it's Doctor Mike Isratel ...

  • @dard4642
    @dard4642 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I did day-one today!
    Doing the assistance exercises first is definitely different -- especially when you unrack the first set of inclines and the bar crashes down on your chest because that lighter weight is now heavy with preexhausted tri's and delts. The best part -- workout #1 (with eight exercises) only took 31 minutes. THAT I like.

    • @tigertamerz7257
      @tigertamerz7257 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damn 8 exercises in 31 minutes?! Now those are gains I can only dream to achieve 😂😂
      I take forever to do 6 exercises

    • @dard4642
      @dard4642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tigertamerz7257 I usually lift heavy in the 3-5 rep range, so I feel you. These are 2x15 @ rpe7, so you'll blow through week one. I did one workout in 18 minutes.
      Week 2, which I start today, adds a failure set to each exercise, and week three another failure set, so all weeks won't look like week-one 👍

    • @tigertamerz7257
      @tigertamerz7257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dard4642 Damn, I definitely will try this one out as soon as I get a membership going.

    • @justintemp
      @justintemp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dard4642 I thought weeks two and three add an extra set, but not to failure... Is the failure specified somewhere?

    • @moony9028
      @moony9028 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justintemp RPE 10 is failure in lifting nerd culture

  • @javiervaldivia9240
    @javiervaldivia9240 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I'm done with prep I still fall back on that 19 week program you gave me once. It's brutal but man does it feel good. I'm going to have to try this.

  • @the_man_emperor_of_mankind
    @the_man_emperor_of_mankind ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looking forward to running this once 2023 hits, gonna take my new maxes into it, and come out weighing more and ready to make some serious strength work

  • @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
    @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are a hero and deserve success for all the work you do.

  • @CalebTheHumbled
    @CalebTheHumbled ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thumbnails have been going hard.

  • @frosty7604
    @frosty7604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Started the program right at the turn of the new year. Liking it so far and looking forward to the rest of it

  • @freakied0550
    @freakied0550 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You had me at phase potentiation.

  • @dontworryaboutit905
    @dontworryaboutit905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This man is the absolute best of TH-cam strongman/powerlifting

  • @josephbasler216
    @josephbasler216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only recently found you despite following similar content on TH-cam for years ... the algorithm is bullshit. You're content is great and insanely helpful. Thank you

  • @jeremiahhempel1975
    @jeremiahhempel1975 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Damn dude, you've got some artistic skills. Kong up there is looking mighty mean.

  • @alexmc7798
    @alexmc7798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love and hate your marketing at the same time 😂. Awesome sharpie skills on display :)

  • @TheNordicBrotherhood
    @TheNordicBrotherhood ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This upload rate is getting insane.

  • @Aaronsolnelson
    @Aaronsolnelson ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loving the daily contact. This looks great! It would probably be a good switch after I attempt my first strongman meet in March.

  • @johntrains1317
    @johntrains1317 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This looks chunky and productive. I'm in a diet/experiment block and think I'm gonna give this a shot.

  • @thepartyperson1
    @thepartyperson1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t wait to run this program when I am finished with bull-mastiff

  • @jurepernus6595
    @jurepernus6595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait to run this. Thanks for all the info. Best channel for programing for sure

  • @thenotsoswoleguy
    @thenotsoswoleguy ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Day 1 Done , it was pretty weird with the incline bench at near the end ( because I had to reduce the weight to 50% of my 1RM to meet the RPE) OH and the JM Press wrecked my arms ! 100% recommended and I will edit after week 1.

    • @justintemp
      @justintemp ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you edit the exercise from french to Overhead press?

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you progressing?

    • @nathanjesus6280
      @nathanjesus6280 ปีที่แล้ว

      You didn’t stick to it did you?

  • @alexandrosmavrikos
    @alexandrosmavrikos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was looking something new to start after running powerlifting programs non stop since summer (candito, nuckols) my good luck brought me here, thanks Alex, 3 months ultrabulk is starting

  • @theelement6255
    @theelement6255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so amped for this. its hard to wait !!

  • @dr.weeniehutjr
    @dr.weeniehutjr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so excited to start this. Been using 1x/week frequency to build myself back up after an injury and this is the perfect template to get me back into 2x/week.

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's it going now

    • @dr.weeniehutjr
      @dr.weeniehutjr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryanrogers8211 I ran the last week of the first block on repeat for three months and made some great gains and some progress in size slightly beyond where I was before my break. I can’t really review the full program because I didn’t run the rest, but the first block is an incredible template for an arm and shoulders focused 2x frequency program. I’m back on 1x/week ppl because I have a lot less time to spend in the gym recently but if you have the time to spend each session it’s a great high volume low intensity structure

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.weeniehutjr Nice review and I'm glad it worked so well for you.

  • @nathanieldarnell8400
    @nathanieldarnell8400 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just realized that was you on boost camp. Added it for when I finish my current program

  • @ghostbc5214
    @ghostbc5214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man this is exactly what I need for my weak arms

  • @musselmarc
    @musselmarc ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Been stuck in a rut lately with training, so that could be right up my alley! Unfortunately, I'm not able to commit to 5 workouts a week...Could be cool to see if there are ways to run the program on 4 workouts weekly!
    Thanks for all the great content Bromley!

    • @dr.weeniehutjr
      @dr.weeniehutjr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d consolidate the first two push and pull sessions into an upper day, maybe adjust the exercise selections to allow for antagonist supersets or cut some volume to save time. You’d only be missing out on some delt frequency and maybe lower back recovery

    • @jamesfioriello8741
      @jamesfioriello8741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you get the book , there is a 4 day workout split in it!

  • @leerobbins7533
    @leerobbins7533 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Started this today felt amazing I've been doing full body since Xmas so it was a good change

  • @fitu_jack5901
    @fitu_jack5901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very similar to how I like to stack most of my training blocks via movement selection.

  • @carmelpleaser
    @carmelpleaser ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys y'all gotta thumbs up this post please. Help this man

  • @a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
    @a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I might use this when I come back in January! I really went balls out this past five months on the strength training and tweaked myself up a bit on the road to a 4 plate squat.

    • @paulchristie3306
      @paulchristie3306 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did u get your squat to 4 plates ?

    • @a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
      @a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulchristie3306 I didn't, I got to 375. I snapped my shit up on the 2nd rep. Haven't squatted more than 225 since. As for how I got to that point after a few months of training? I train fkin hard, bro! I was maxing every week and doing volume work on the 2nd lower day. I honestly went too hard, but that's how I'm wired.

    • @ryanrogers8211
      @ryanrogers8211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 If that's how you are wired you would do so good submitting all your training to an experienced seasoned lifter and coach like Bromley or Massive Iron Steve Shaw.

    • @CankleCankle
      @CankleCankle ปีที่แล้ว

      @@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514snapped what?

    • @Fanofou82
      @Fanofou82 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CankleCankle His pssy

  • @cooperkurt2761
    @cooperkurt2761 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starting this tomorrow brother ! Wish me luck time to lock in and go crazy this year !!!

  • @GorillaStrengthEquipment
    @GorillaStrengthEquipment ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool man, this video just popped up on my feed. Glad it did. -David

  • @torskenlange1392
    @torskenlange1392 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your drawing skills are underrated

  • @JP-zk7ye
    @JP-zk7ye ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this! Im excited to try this for my next one

  • @Jay-ty7nw
    @Jay-ty7nw ปีที่แล้ว

    I ran kong, it's good. Ended up buying the ebook. Noticeable gains in my triceps and shoulders. Didn't get too much in the way of strength gains except ohp when up a little but it is a hypertrophy program.

  • @jackburke5313
    @jackburke5313 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is amazing. you are the man

  • @bossmoto1129
    @bossmoto1129 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subscribed thankyou ❤

  • @gmcghee71
    @gmcghee71 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really looking forward to the release of this program!

  • @swordofhonor2
    @swordofhonor2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kong takes trem. Harambe was natty for life... I want to see the Harambe program.

  • @unky5724
    @unky5724 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really appreciate this awesome free info. Will be snagging this program when it drops for sure.
    Merry christmas Coach Bromley 💯🎄

  • @Guitareben
    @Guitareben ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolute legend

  • @emmanuelvasquez5621
    @emmanuelvasquez5621 ปีที่แล้ว

    New subscriber here. Love this video bro thank you

  • @brinfronk394
    @brinfronk394 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great!

  • @Luke41lol
    @Luke41lol ปีที่แล้ว

    this is amazing

  • @1922johnboy
    @1922johnboy ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent ❤😮😊

  • @nofvcejuno
    @nofvcejuno ปีที่แล้ว

    will do this

  • @thecomanderak337
    @thecomanderak337 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hellloooow strong fellas and hella alexander i want to know , what should do for the seated wide grip row ; a neutral or pronation grip ? Maybe pronation for upperback focus ? Thank you for the program i have an wrist ingery but i still try to put in the work

  • @jacobsobelman3923
    @jacobsobelman3923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know what program I’m doing after Bullmastiff!

  • @jackwatters5322
    @jackwatters5322 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sold

  • @mdrgn79
    @mdrgn79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a program geared towards a fireman with a 24/48 schedule?

  • @jamesfioriello8741
    @jamesfioriello8741 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On week 3. Love the Kong program! When iam done can i run Kong again for 12 weeks? For more size?

  • @jaysharpmjr
    @jaysharpmjr ปีที่แล้ว

    [has been getting ready to run fullsterker starting after the holidays] well now I'm conflicted

  • @smsweeney1303
    @smsweeney1303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This looks exactly what I need to kick into the new year. I’ll be working out at home so had a look what would you use instead of leg press?

  • @DoggMannTru
    @DoggMannTru ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just started the program today. I’ve been back in the gym about 8 months. Trying to gain a little size but don’t want to get much fatter than I am. I lost 25 lbs and want to take a break from cutting for about 6 months. Do you think this is a good idea. Want to be around maintenance calories or slightly higher. What is your opinion. Thank you sir.

  • @InvisibleHotdog
    @InvisibleHotdog ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These thumbnails have to be from an AI image generator lmao

  • @Oc_Twenty
    @Oc_Twenty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Alex, ive watched this video numerous times, im eager to give it a go. Is chest only hit once a week? looks that way based on what you wrote. Will the indepth video hit after the program goes live on the app? or at the same time for us old fashioned Spreadsheet/Notebook folk. Your a star btw.

  • @Flyingsquirrel69420
    @Flyingsquirrel69420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just giving you some unwarranted feedback on your new thumbnails, they're awesome!!

  • @muhammadshahzad8558
    @muhammadshahzad8558 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Alex currently running bullmastiff finishing week 11! Wondering if u can make a video on how to go about test week? Is it three separate days, or sbd in one day (not used to that) to test 1 rep max?

    • @muhammadshahzad8558
      @muhammadshahzad8558 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great program I must say! Rep PRs on rep PRs!,!!🎉🎉🎉

  • @Pastapillow
    @Pastapillow ปีที่แล้ว +6

    nice name. Will Godzilla be next?

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have to get through all the elder gods first

    • @InvisibleHotdog
      @InvisibleHotdog ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I got it right here: GOMAD, every squat and deadlift variation, no arm training.

    • @Pastapillow
      @Pastapillow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexanderBromley We look forward to them 🥳

    • @shrexyboi1850
      @shrexyboi1850 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InvisibleHotdog godzilla mode

  • @Dr.MikeGranato
    @Dr.MikeGranato ปีที่แล้ว

    We’ve come to expect quality training content like this from Bromley, but tell me he drew that ape head. He’s artistic too? Save some talent for the rest of us

  • @daytonasayswhat9333
    @daytonasayswhat9333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven’t?

  • @shycreation9418
    @shycreation9418 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Those who are hitting heavy top sets, I certainly know you aren't dropping back down and hitting multiple sets of 8 or 10.".... Why not??? I literally do this every time I squat bench or dead. Even accessory work. Is this bad?

  • @EdwarkingOFitness
    @EdwarkingOFitness 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you guys recommend running this on a cut?

  • @Pepe-pq3om
    @Pepe-pq3om ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was the thumbnail imagine a.i. generated?

  • @petermurphy2106
    @petermurphy2106 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome.. I can’t read the white board tho. Too far away.. haha,,

  • @fayizfz
    @fayizfz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a power-building type program too?

  • @ghostbc5214
    @ghostbc5214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's posted on the app!! Looking forward to doing it. Would it be smart to do it after PHAT by Layne. How long should each workout take?

    • @noodleeeeee
      @noodleeeeee ปีที่แล้ว

      How was PHAT BY LAYNE? Thinking about doing that one

    • @ghostbc5214
      @ghostbc5214 ปีที่แล้ว

      @noodleheaddd very fun n powerful

  • @jarnorantanen7098
    @jarnorantanen7098 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AlexanderBromley can u do powerlifting program on boostcamp?

  • @brandenpGains
    @brandenpGains ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it hurt someone wanting to look like a bodybuilder

  • @TheCenation54
    @TheCenation54 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a Tall guy 6 ft 2 but long torso short legs and short arms can squat 365 for 1 but Conventional deadlift only 380 for 1 please give me some tips to increase my deadlift

  • @ES1976-3
    @ES1976-3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Question: if you are an intermediate lifter who is solely interested in strength, is it still worthwhile to hop on a hypertrophy program every 6 months or so. Thanks!

    • @InvisibleHotdog
      @InvisibleHotdog ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Bigger muscle is stronger muscle

    • @stoempert
      @stoempert ปีที่แล้ว +6

      More muscle is more strength potential. So unless your strength oriented training builds you tons of muscle, hypertrophy phases are great.

    • @unky5724
      @unky5724 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck making strength gains after 6 months of 0 hypertrophy work

    • @anthonini66
      @anthonini66 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ed Coan says yes

  • @drinkinouttacups2665
    @drinkinouttacups2665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Collab with chef jenova when

  • @richardgonzales6802
    @richardgonzales6802 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you provide for me bro , I'll provide for you. New subscriber and I'll be liking your vids and clicking the bell

  • @minecraftlord568
    @minecraftlord568 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do we deal with the issue of experts disagreeing on key issues? Obviously you know your shit lol. It seems Paul Carter does too. Here you have the pendlay row in a hypertrophy programme and Paul specifically says the pendlay row is terrible for hypertrophy because there's no stabilization and no eccentric. What should we do, should we just pick a guy like a football supporter? Legit question..

  • @kanzakireito23
    @kanzakireito23 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is probably a very dumb question but I want to run this program so I gotta make sure... I know it's a 5 day split and usually that's how many times a week I train but sometimes I only have 4 days available or I have to switch around the rest days, how much flexibility do we have with this program?

  • @whynotsquat8315
    @whynotsquat8315 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think it makes sense to run this after finishing Bullmastiff? And after Kong go to Brian Alsruhes programming?

  • @michaellk2254
    @michaellk2254 ปีที่แล้ว

    Run*

  • @josemorin10
    @josemorin10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since march I've been running KONG and absolutely love the pain and most of all the results.

    • @mdguitar00
      @mdguitar00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good size gains?

  • @jacobr7205
    @jacobr7205 ปีที่แล้ว

    my only question is, does each block count as a week? like if I just did block on on week one, I go to block 2 on to week two?

  • @alphaabid78
    @alphaabid78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This program is not available on the app

  • @MassiveDerek
    @MassiveDerek ปีที่แล้ว

    is this acceptable for someone like me who's sick of 5x5 and wants to get into strongman in 6 months?

  • @coryinthehouse8125
    @coryinthehouse8125 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can i swap hack squats for leg press?

  • @kubajagieka9530
    @kubajagieka9530 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any tips how one could redo the Kong into a 4 day routine? Work wouldnt allow me to do it as much as I want, and I dont want to take every waking hour of my day to work/training. Anyone done something like that?

  • @tmmnago2722
    @tmmnago2722 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I do this if I’m not an intermediate and still doing linear progression?

  • @larryismyname7643
    @larryismyname7643 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is BK????

  • @IndustrialMaintenance
    @IndustrialMaintenance ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a garage gym strength program?

  • @victorbigstone8178
    @victorbigstone8178 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍

  • @WolfManJammer
    @WolfManJammer ปีที่แล้ว

    Has this program been uploaded to the app? I'm not seeing it.

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should be up today or tomorrow! Ebook will be dropping in the next few days as well.

    • @jcs6831
      @jcs6831 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexanderBromley Any updates?

    • @WolfManJammer
      @WolfManJammer ปีที่แล้ว

      I was looking to start a new program today and thought this one might have fit. Still not seeing it! Maybe next time.

  • @Scott-nk4rr
    @Scott-nk4rr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna line up Bromley's beard. Every time I see it the OCD flares up lol

  • @_whitewizard
    @_whitewizard ปีที่แล้ว

    timthetatman looking ahh xD

  • @alexlloyd2154
    @alexlloyd2154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jump annoy sic eatr add rez evil 1 ruind smll bug

  • @Pete0621
    @Pete0621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please keep recommending programs. I’m so bored of all of the super common strength programs I’m seeing

  • @joshdoesstuff763
    @joshdoesstuff763 ปีที่แล้ว

    Correct. I’m a bodybuilder. I don’t run period.

  • @Dialments
    @Dialments ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont really understand this tbh can someone type this like a actual program

  • @surronzak8154
    @surronzak8154 ปีที่แล้ว

    "You Haven't Run a Program Like This" yes, I don't want to look like a belgian blue white bull 😂

  • @FIghtFuel-wt3xv
    @FIghtFuel-wt3xv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    will i get a gf if i get jacked?

  • @dougie-thugie
    @dougie-thugie ปีที่แล้ว

    This is racist.... bahahaha

  • @2.0.1.0.
    @2.0.1.0. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anything above 10 reps makes me wilt just thinking of it

    • @ProphetFear
      @ProphetFear ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're the most satisfying sets to do and don't leave you shellshocked neurologically. All of the trauma is isolated into the muscle bellies and not my soul.

  • @andersrubini2733
    @andersrubini2733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks awesome, I cant seem to find it on boostcamp tho.

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Drops after xmas

    • @andersrubini2733
      @andersrubini2733 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AlexanderBromley thanks for the response. " The Thickening" will begin after Christmas then.