Thank you, Jonathan. I have been having a hard time trying to figure out how to navigate from one major airport to another and then entering the data into the FMC. It's felt like I'm beating my head against a wall. But this -- and your other videos/tutorials -- has helped me to make sense of an otherwise confusing procedure. I am going to watch your video repeatedly until your lesson becomes ingrained in my mind.
Just got back into fsx after a break of 3 years and this was extremly helpfull. Never really understood these routes before. Never used Little Navmap before either, seems like a fantastic addon. Can't believe it's for free, I would gladly pay for it. Your videos are excellent, and unlike some you take it slowly, not race through it at 20 to the dozen. Thanks a mill.
Thanks again Jonathan. This was what I was looking for for a long time. Indeed it looked like Chinese to me but your clear way of explaining and displaying made me understand route-planning better. Thanks to you're video's I'm really starting to enjoy FS and the PMDG. You've made me startup the 737 and shut it down again and even manage it along the route using your FMC tutorials. Also compliments for keeping things 'simple' in every separate tutorial (as you mention quite often). I've seen other tutorials that got in to every small aviation detail which made me lose track. I'm looking forward to your next video's. Thanks again ;-)
That was bloody marvellous, you have a real skill of taking a difficult subject and making it understandable. You are the only person now that I follow for learning about flying. I used to follow a lot but you are clearly the best by a mile. Thank you
Fantastic video and being a regular user of LittleNavMap for GA this was a super informative lesson on the application's additional flight planning capabilities.
Love your vidoes, just learning to fly in MSFS and looking at IFR and LittleNavMap - yours seem the most useful and informative. Interesting that waypoints seem to be a pronounceable five letter acronyms, I'm sure by design, and are often funny: my favourite here is UVAVU (though I hope ERANU is nearby) at 8:04 - which only makes sense if you watched Shooting Stars TV show.
I'm pretty late to this, but I copied my flight plan I got from Simbrief, and inserted it the way you did (New flight plan as route description) but it says the altitude for my first waypoint is too low for the route/airway. Do you know how I can fix this? Or should I leave it as-is?
Never understood (until today) what that first set of characters meant, after departure, in this case N0470F280. Now it makes sense ! Well explained, need to enable J in Little Nav Map as well.
Great video. One tip. When you put in the airways in LSK in sequence, the routing points will be filled by the FMC so you don't have to type them in ;-)
Two questions came to my mind. When you put in the route in LittleNavMap, it generated many new waypoints. When programming the FMC, you ignored those new waypoints. I understand the FMC generated some in-between waypoints for itself, but were those the same as in LittleNavMap? And another thing. When generating a flightplan via simbrief (without the Navigraph subscription), you cannot choose the most current airac cycle. So how do I know if Simbrief, LittleNavMap and MSFS are all on the same cycle? Does that not lead to many problems? Wouldn't it be better to generate the flightplan directly in LittleNavMap as shown in the end of the video? Please keep going with your tutorials on the 737-800, it's by far the best learning resource I was able to find so far.
The aircraft does the same trick as LNM - if there are waypoints along the airway, it includes them. If they are the same depends on if the data available to LNM and the aircraft are the same - which is where Navigraph comes in. It's a bit of a mess - because some aircraft (CRJ, PMDG, etc) use their own nav database - which Navigraph can update - and is independent from the Asobo nav database. Navigraph tries to update those aircraft though.
@@jonbeckett Thanks for your quick answer. Wow, that's really a data mess. No wonder it's confusing and frustrating for newcomers to a create a flight plan that actually works out in the sim.
HI Jonathan, Thanks for an illustrative explanation of the route shorthand. It has helped considerably. Was the reason the route didn't show up on the pilot display screen due to the fact that the main panel DU switch was switched to outboard PFD only, instead of 'Norm'? Cheers :)
Great tutorial. You explain things well. I learned a lot from this (and other) videos you do. I pay for Navigraph anually but I love using Little NavMap for each flight and open it in my second monitor. I would like to know how you get google maps inside there. That's pretty cool.
"I haven't tried my 737 -600 yet" - but on my GA aircraft - I normally plan on LP in the simple way - non motorways - and save the flight plan to MSFS and the whole plan is then shown on the world map in all the details - and always shown in the FMS - sometimes with minor adjustments. Although World map provides to prepare a plan using airways - you have shown how to use LP - which I assume I can then save to MSFS - and the question is will it show on FMS in the 737 - and save all the uploading you have just demonstrated ?
The big jets (or any of the study level aircraft, actually) don't take any notice of the world map. Just as a note - the airways - as you saw in this example - are at high altitude - far above the cruising altitude of most GA aircraft.
meanwhilst I learn the 737 from your tutorials - I fly the Longtitude and the H420 both of which get above the big jets circa 40 H420 update 1.6 today on MS MP@@jonbeckett
Thank you for another excellent tutorial. What you may have also shown, and I hope I am wrong, that I can not Request a Flight plan in the 738 created and exported from Little Navmap???
Heh - I always get comments on things I missed. I didn't program any of the winds, or refine any of the leg data either. I'll do a video on transitions at some point - because they really are an entire other subject :)
That was excellent - very clearly explained and de-mystified - a proper "Aha!" Light bulb going on moment! And bonus - LittleNavMap comes in very handy, yet again, and double bonus - this is also applicable to other sims and aircraft. Many thanks, much appreciated!
I'll have a look later. It depends if it has the route page. As far as I know, at the moment the 146 has a bastardised version of the Working Title CJ4 flight management computer - and JustFlight are working on a replacement - but it will take some time.
Every question I have for MSFS which I Google, your video comes up and offers the best answers.
Great work.
Thank you, Jonathan. I have been having a hard time trying to figure out how to navigate from one major airport to another and then entering the data into the FMC. It's felt like I'm beating my head against a wall. But this -- and your other videos/tutorials -- has helped me to make sense of an otherwise confusing procedure. I am going to watch your video repeatedly until your lesson becomes ingrained in my mind.
Incredably useful - thank you. 👍
Just got back into fsx after a break of 3 years and this was extremly helpfull.
Never really understood these routes before.
Never used Little Navmap before either, seems like a fantastic addon.
Can't believe it's for free, I would gladly pay for it.
Your videos are excellent, and unlike some you take it slowly, not race through it at 20 to the dozen.
Thanks a mill.
Thank you for your videos! Greetings from Slovakia ❤️🇸🇰✈️
My pleasure!
Thanks again Jonathan. This was what I was looking for for a long time. Indeed it looked like Chinese to me but your clear way of explaining and displaying made me understand route-planning better. Thanks to you're video's I'm really starting to enjoy FS and the PMDG. You've made me startup the 737 and shut it down again and even manage it along the route using your FMC tutorials. Also compliments for keeping things 'simple' in every separate tutorial (as you mention quite often). I've seen other tutorials that got in to every small aviation detail which made me lose track. I'm looking forward to your next video's. Thanks again ;-)
Cheers! :)
Really appreciate this, thank you for breaking down the sim brief flight plan and explaining everything in detail. Those text files are indeed scary.
Glad it was helpful!
This was very very helpful now i understand airways much better! Thank you!
You're welcome :)
finally i dont need to put one by one on my airway thanks so much ur a life saver!!
All of your videos are outstanding! Thanks for taking the time to do them!
My pleasure!
That was bloody marvellous, you have a real skill of taking a difficult subject and making it understandable. You are the only person now that I follow for learning about flying. I used to follow a lot but you are clearly the best by a mile. Thank you
Cheers :)
Fantastic video and being a regular user of LittleNavMap for GA this was a super informative lesson on the application's additional flight planning capabilities.
You're very welcome!
Love your vidoes, just learning to fly in MSFS and looking at IFR and LittleNavMap - yours seem the most useful and informative.
Interesting that waypoints seem to be a pronounceable five letter acronyms, I'm sure by design, and are often funny: my favourite here is UVAVU (though I hope ERANU is nearby) at 8:04 - which only makes sense if you watched Shooting Stars TV show.
There are lots around the world that are pretty funny :) Lots in the San Francisco bay area.
I'm pretty late to this, but I copied my flight plan I got from Simbrief, and inserted it the way you did (New flight plan as route description) but it says the altitude for my first waypoint is too low for the route/airway. Do you know how I can fix this? Or should I leave it as-is?
Never understood (until today) what that first set of characters meant, after departure, in this case N0470F280. Now it makes sense ! Well explained, need to enable J in Little Nav Map as well.
You're welcome :)
Great video. One tip. When you put in the airways in LSK in sequence, the routing points will be filled by the FMC so you don't have to type them in ;-)
Yep - I really wanted to show it in a very mechanical, understandable way though.
Another great tutorial JB thanks and all the best LeSeur.
Very welcome
Awesome explanation
Cheers :)
Two questions came to my mind. When you put in the route in LittleNavMap, it generated many new waypoints. When programming the FMC, you ignored those new waypoints. I understand the FMC generated some in-between waypoints for itself, but were those the same as in LittleNavMap?
And another thing. When generating a flightplan via simbrief (without the Navigraph subscription), you cannot choose the most current airac cycle. So how do I know if Simbrief, LittleNavMap and MSFS are all on the same cycle? Does that not lead to many problems? Wouldn't it be better to generate the flightplan directly in LittleNavMap as shown in the end of the video?
Please keep going with your tutorials on the 737-800, it's by far the best learning resource I was able to find so far.
The aircraft does the same trick as LNM - if there are waypoints along the airway, it includes them. If they are the same depends on if the data available to LNM and the aircraft are the same - which is where Navigraph comes in. It's a bit of a mess - because some aircraft (CRJ, PMDG, etc) use their own nav database - which Navigraph can update - and is independent from the Asobo nav database. Navigraph tries to update those aircraft though.
@@jonbeckett Thanks for your quick answer. Wow, that's really a data mess. No wonder it's confusing and frustrating for newcomers to a create a flight plan that actually works out in the sim.
HI Jonathan, Thanks for an illustrative explanation of the route shorthand. It has helped considerably. Was the reason the route didn't show up on the pilot display screen due to the fact that the main panel DU switch was switched to outboard PFD only, instead of 'Norm'? Cheers :)
Probably - I didn't want to hang around and figure out what was going on with the switches - so just slid across to the copilot screen :)
Thx Jon, much appreciated!
Thankyou :)
Great tutorial. You explain things well. I learned a lot from this (and other) videos you do. I pay for Navigraph anually but I love using Little NavMap for each flight and open it in my second monitor. I would like to know how you get google maps inside there. That's pretty cool.
There is an unofficial add-on for LittleNavMap - if you search for LittleNavMap and Google Maps, you'll find it :)
Very nice. Does Little NavMap only work if connected to a sim package like FS2020 ?
Yes - it loads the data from the simulator scenery database.
Hi Jonathan, thank you for this very informative video. Do you know how to deal with SID/STAR transitions in Littlenavmap ? Kind regards
Yep - just open the SID or STAR in the procedures menu - the transitions are listed.
@@jonbeckett Thank you, yes indeed, and right click to append to the flight plan . Nice 👍
"I haven't tried my 737 -600 yet" - but on my GA aircraft - I normally plan on LP in the simple way - non motorways - and save the flight plan to MSFS and the whole plan is then shown on the world map in all the details - and always shown in the FMS - sometimes with minor adjustments. Although World map provides to prepare a plan using airways - you have shown how to use LP - which I assume I can then save to MSFS - and the question is
will it show on FMS in the 737 - and save all the uploading you have just demonstrated ?
The big jets (or any of the study level aircraft, actually) don't take any notice of the world map. Just as a note - the airways - as you saw in this example - are at high altitude - far above the cruising altitude of most GA aircraft.
meanwhilst I learn the 737 from your tutorials - I fly the Longtitude and the H420 both of which get above the big jets circa 40 H420 update 1.6 today on MS MP@@jonbeckett
Thank you for another excellent tutorial. What you may have also shown, and I hope I am wrong, that I can not Request a Flight plan in the 738 created and exported from Little Navmap???
I don't know - I haven't flown the 787 for months!
@@jonbeckett No, I meant the PMDG 737-800 commonly known as the 738... 🙂
Good video, but you should have selected the full transition for the ILS 24 (TLA)
Heh - I always get comments on things I missed. I didn't program any of the winds, or refine any of the leg data either. I'll do a video on transitions at some point - because they really are an entire other subject :)
thank you
You're welcome
That was excellent - very clearly explained and de-mystified - a proper "Aha!" Light bulb going on moment! And bonus - LittleNavMap comes in very handy, yet again, and double bonus - this is also applicable to other sims and aircraft. Many thanks, much appreciated!
Yep - the Boeing FMC format appears in the CRJ too :)
Could this be done on the 146?
I'll have a look later. It depends if it has the route page. As far as I know, at the moment the 146 has a bastardised version of the Working Title CJ4 flight management computer - and JustFlight are working on a replacement - but it will take some time.
Thanks!
Thank you! :)
Great video might need a de-easer for your mic .. the s’s cut through you
Yeah - I was using my cheap work headset. I have a boom mike, but then you get more bass than you'll ever need.
I can see the BKY VOR from my back garden👍
Awesome :)