Can u guys talk about Chinese electric cars & the company (BYD) compared to Tesla? Self driving car technology, profitability, RIDE share vs. Uber? Just sharing some ideas.
The Chinese is 五千年的历史 -- '5000 years of history'. And I've encountered Chinese who do reject Egypt as a rival because 'Egypt has gaps in its record'. So the claim is for '5000 years of continuous history'.
@@HaceSunnyDSol I have never been to NYC (have you?) nor do I want to go there! Sounds like your are justifying filth in another place will justify filth in China! Dude, two wrongs don't make a right. I understand, 5,000 years of culture in China will result in your warped logic!
True! (On the other hand, I'm not entirely convinced that "talking" to an invisible daddy in the sky and "his" since two millennia dead "son" is any more advanced...) :-D
If you look at the genetic anthropology studies that have been done, the Han Chinese actually have a higher Neanderthal component (=more genes) than the average for the rest of the world. They mixed. They are not even the "first people" in China, either. They are exactly what they use as a slander against the USA: "an immigrant nation!"
Depends on what you mean. The overwhelming majority of East Asians most definitely DO come from a somewhat different gene pool mix (everyone is a mix) than Europeans or subsaharan Africans (but, of course, that doesn't magically follow China's borders). By the same token, everyone NOT from an exclusive subsaharan African background carry a small amount of Neanderthal genes, while Subsharan Africans typically or normally don't. Other now extinct groups of humans such as Denisovans have also left some traces (in Melanesians, Aboriginal Australians, and Papuans).
I've lived in China for 7 years now and am still amazed by this so far advanced , peaceful and civilized society. Last year they were slaughtering dogs in Hangzhou because of one bad pet owner getting in a fight with some lady. Love seeing the advanced people shitting in the bushes on my way to work everyday. Love going out to dinner and someone is puffing a cig at the table next to me while spitting on the floor and spitting out bones on the table, while throwing their beer bottles on the ground...shall I go on?? Or how about the old peaceful and wise peoples of China shoving their way into an elevator before I can disembark...ah, such peace and wisdom..the guy behind me in a traffic jam laying on his horn, even tho there is no where to go...ok...enough..
@@blokeabouttown2490 propaganda. The majority of people are poor and uneducated. Its not entirely their fault. They are basically cut off from the outside world. We wouldn't want to spark any free thinking. That's dangerous to the well being of the ccp.
All the mainland Chinese have to do is look around themselves at all the modern stuff and ask themselves honestly, how much of it was invented in China?
@Alpha Cheong Lun ShenHistory of calculus or infinitesimal calculus, is a history of a mathematical discipline focused on limits, functions, derivatives, integrals, and infinite series. Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz independently invented calculus in the mid-17th century.
@Alpha Cheong Lun ShenIn the early 1950s, American biologist James Watson and British physicist Francis Crick came up with their famous model of the DNA double helix. You are kind of dumb right?
@@roguenoir but taiwan is seen as a part of china. and taiwan sees china as part of taiwan. so, this is kind of a weird situation... and currently I don't see a way to resolve that.
Mostly yes, but do consider that Taiwan was significantly influenced as a colony by Japan, so whilst similar, it is still somewhat removed of what (for the lack of a better term) "pure" Chinese culture would be like, if it weren't for the CCP.
@@Dowlphin While the British did hand over Hong Kong to China, the laws have remained from the British rule. Moreover you need a passport to go from China to Hong Kong. So I would still classify Hong Kong as still the same area. Though in a few years it will revert entirely to Chinese rule so when that happens id say it will stop being the Hong Kong we know today and will be the newest addition to China.
Many people in China do have lack of self-confidence in their own country, especially the older generations. However, the people born after 1990 and 2000 are getting more and more confident for their own country. Many of younger generation uses VPN to get on TH-cam and other website outside of China's internet "wall" and see what it's like on the other side of the wall, but ended up loving China even more. This is also one of the reason why China doesn't puts any one that uses VPN into Jail. According to China's law, use VPN is illegal, but is not an crime. Only uses VPN to share message harmful to China counts as crime. China knows million of people uses VPN , but they don't care, because the official knows that the confident of newer generation is rising.
A year later: Here I am sticking a cotton bud up my nose every other day to see if i have covid and i'm the other side of the world. Hilariously the box says made in China on it and it even features a "QC passed certificate" with a nice red star on it an a load of Chinese writing. I know they're trying to use the tests as a way of projecting soft power but to me it's just reminding me why i'm having to stick a massive cotton bud up my nose and tickle my tonsils every couple days.
I just flew from Madrid to Texas with some Chinese people. Culturally their manners are very different than U.S. such as burping and farting in public. Do not mean to stereotype but I have seen this behavior multiple times from Chinese people. I work in a hospital and have seen Chinese residents eat with their face in the bowl and shovel food into their mouth. Very different than I am accustomed.
Funny how Chinese people who're not raised in China retain the same qualities. No regard for cleanliness, poor personal hygiene,self centred. Almost like it's built into them
@@pooja350 It's not in every Chinese person. Just the ones who don't travel out of China or out of Chinatown(if they are in a foreign country) They are only surrounded by the same ppl doing the same things so it is socially acceptable for them.
China plays both sides of the coin. 1) "We are the worlds super power. "2) We are a developing nation. We take advantage of the Universal Postal Treaty so we can sell our cheap crap to you, made with slave labor, and ship to you cheap. We don't want to allow other goods to be sold in our country because we are third world. Trade rules should be balanced to benefit China. We should be aloud to steal your technology since we are developing nation, without any consequences. If we let you do business here we want your technology. Our students are the best, but since we are third world we want to come to your university. We are third world, you can't expect us to help humanity when trouble strikes. We are third world with 5000 year history of shit. "We are world's superpower."
I'm glad you brought this up. Their 4 thousand years of history ain't like that of Ancient Rome which was a continuous empire for 1500 years. Or of similar lengths with Egypt. For Chinese there was no mono culture or history or government for a long period of time. And after communism all that history and culture was destroyed. They are simply people living on a continent and related to the Chinese of the past who did those things but have fuck all in common. No decedent culture or history. Hell and with things like the mongol invasion many may not even be related or of the same ethnicity. In truth, today's China is younger then we are.
China itself was conquered by Manchus before it became republic 100 years ago. PRC is pretty much influenced by the Soviets of Russia in the past. That 5000 year is bs. It's not as "continuous". In fact, Korea and Japan have kept more transitional Chinese culture than PRC.
The traces of traditional Chinese culture can be seen all the way in Japan, from chop sticks and roof styles of temples, to food, words, and writing system. Just like Americans have further developed things from Europe (for example rugby into American football), so has Japan developed things from China into things perceived as Japanese.
@@SA-rb5xq re: Rome Of course the Romans were intellectually gobsmaked by Athenian Greece. Even the early Republic had strong citizen participation; the Consuls were elected for a single one year term, for instance. In addition, citizenship confered legal restrictions on the state power against the citizen. Torture was illegal and capital cases had appeal to the emperor. China had debates on these things as well but Confucian hierarchal "virtue" prevailed over legalism. The historical impact is only substantial, however, because the West was able to develop these things into a sustained industrial revolution. Only Japan had the cultural ability to adapt the obvious to its own purposes and did so immediately.
1st time a Chinese person told me that it was said near to 5000 years. The next person said 5000 years. After that someone told me China has more than 5000 years of history. Just as you mentioned some now are saying over 8000. Then some comrade comes along and says 70 years 🤯
China does have the best/largest quantity of reverse-engineers, spies and propagandists in the world. These would be invaluable skills in fight against an extraterrestrial force with only slightly greater technological level.
I don't think Winston is right about Chinese culture being only 70 years old. Just cause the modern commie China emerged relatively recently and destroyed a bunch of documents and relics, doesn't mean the cultural history has been wiped out. Like you said, the traditional beliefs & medicine still exist in other countries like Japan and Taiwan. And the Chinese people still practice their traditional beliefs and culture in mainland China. Disregarding those 5k years of history just cause the commies took over would be like saying that, Serbia's (my country) culture was birthed in 2006 when the modern state of Serbia emerged.
Yep, but this expresses the limits of their objectivity. When people's limits are tested, it gets interesting. Winston tends to say he doesn't want to ride with a driver who never had an accident, because they don't know their limits. ... Well, have you really ever seen him crash, figuratively? That only works when someone else pushes people's limits. And as the saying goes, the chain breaks at the weakest link. And that's the most tempting to portray as strong by pointing at weaker links in other chains. - That which attempts to control us tries to distract our attention from it, since the things we are not aware of have the greatest power over us.
I live in Scotland and here, culture is very rich and very strong and its definitely very important to us. We'd never pretend that that makes us better.
Do not forget William Topaz McGonagle! The man who was the worst poet in history!! He was horrible, truly horrible, but dammit, after a few beers down the pub with a chaser of Scotch, it is a scream!! Long live McGonagle's bad rhyming about the River Tay!!
@@marykatherinegoode2773 So let's raise a glass to Bill McGonagle Who wrote in verse, or was it doggerel. Chinese should listen and heed his lines. For they teach a lesson for modern times. "For the stronger our houses we do build The less chance we have of being killed".
My chinese teacher was so smug showing his foreign students the Ip Man movie as if it had anything to do with real chinese history. It was so ridiculous given the fact they tried to destroy kung-fu and now they are trying to use it for propaganda.
Russian war movies are only made for propangada purposes, even Hollywood war movies have more credibility... It's very funny to hear somebody from Russia criticizing China for this
The "5000" year history "BS" might actually be true in Taiwan... Where the Chinese traditions are still very much in place. Obviously, It has grown beyond the "dynasty" period.... But, you can still see the traditions, etc...
The first emperor, Chang Xi Huang Ti, did the same exact thing that this Mao character did-- he had all the old histories seized and burned, everything that he could obtain destroyed, and all the philosophers that they could capture were buried up to their necks. I don't remember if they were left to die of thirst and exposure, or if they ran a herd of horses over them
Far more important than the purported age of a culture is what types of personalities have successive governments allowed to live and which have been purged from the gene pool. We don't like to think that humans can be consciously or even just inadvertently bred for personality type but that's exactly what governments are doing when they murder some (usually freedom-loving) citizens and promote the breeding success of others more accepting of their servitude. We do this with animals all the time: cats, dogs, horses, etc are bred for personality type in addition to physical characteristics. Even the chickens I own I selected because their breed is known for being more "mellow", and it's true -- just ask the sweet-natured Buff Orpington hen sitting at my feet. China is what it is not because of 5,000 years of culture, but because China, up to the present day, whacks anyone who resists government authority too much, and all Chinese know it.
@@hshs5756 That's exactly why Japan is like it is because of over a thousand years of Samurai rule. A culture in which you were not allowed to raise your eyes to look at the Sovereign Lord's face unless he gave you permission to do so. If he did not give you permission to do so and you stood up to look hikm full in the face, he could whack your head off without warning. Legally. I guess a thousand years of that would kind of change the complexion of things.
@Lon Spector After the orange man is sworn in for his second term, then the Sea Hag will be indicted. Not too long after that she'll give up all of her buddies to try to keep from serving 99.99 years in jail.... It's going to look really interesting when they get around to Comey, Schiff, and the Kenyan.
@@DemocracyDoctor1 You obviously don't know what communism really is. Calling whole those liberals in California commies means only that you are an idiot with IQ similar to the IQ of the bacteria.
@ if you would ever lived in communist country you wouldn't ask silly question.
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@@werthor7083 oh no looks like you are the commie pro kid here , so these libtards want the gov to take away our income and give it all to migrants colors and other deviant groups , if that is not commie style then you are not so pro after all
You two always find the best and most relevant topics to discuss. I completely agree with what you said because I was wondering a lot about the same thing too. Why do the Chinese, including Xi while hosting Trump in the Forbidden City, always resort to the 5,000-year history for pride and to belittle other cultures? If what the 5,000-year history could do best was create a totalitarian system and dictators like Mao and Xi, there is really nothing to brag about.
Dj Gnu Name one country that is a genuine friend of China. Even the "blood and flesh" brother of North Korea despises its gigantic neighbor. That's a fact. Without money to give away or bribe the African countries, China has no friend. When it's money runs out, China runs out of friends.
Alpha Cheong Lun Shen What the dragon is capable of creating and contributing to the world is widely known and witnessed: parents hoarding milk powder for their infant babies from Australia; women sneaking into the United States to give births; high officials hiding their wealth in the West and sending their kids and mistresses to the countries they belittle; tourists fighting for the last shrimp at buffet tables as if there was no tomorrow; hopeless folks faking accidents to blackmail innocent drivers out of their last dime (碰瓷), to name only a tiny fraction of the many. When and only when you have addressed those eyes sores can you truly claim you're superior and be proud. The 5,000-year heritage cannot even eliminate poisonous milk powder or stop fake vaccines for the future of your nation: children. What are you really proud of? High speed trains and swanky skyscrapers are not the future of the Chinese nation; the quality and humanity of its people are.
Great video, thank you! I agree that the USA & South Africa are much older than modern China, only because of the psychopathic Mao govt. that effectively destroyed the ancient Chinese culture. Now, if the Kuomintang Chiang Kai Shek govt. had not been run out of the country by the communist revolution, & was allowed to evolve peacefully into modern China, perhaps the 5000y analogy would be truthful. Unfortunately, the Sabbatean-Frankists, fueled by Rothschild et al. money, have been hell bent on taking over the world since the time of Sabbatai Tzvi (Zevi) & Jacob Frank, who had created an inversion Judaism Satanic Death cult with 1 million followers, that had infiltrated many govts. & corporations, while hiding in plain sight among the diaspora of Jewry, & they coined the Bolshevic Revolution in Russia, & realized that they absolutely HAD to conquer China, the world's most populous country, in order to conquer the world. Their evil continues to live on in the CCP.
There are more or less simultaneous traces of civilizations in Europe around Danube river and Black Sea, Nile river, Mesopotamia (Tigris and Euphrate rivers) so called Fertile Crescent, Indus river and of course Yangtze river but there is nothing which says there is a First civilization anywhere. Anyway the first acupuncture use was found in Alps, the mummy Otzi the iceman 5300 years old, 2000 years before acupuncture use in China.
The Neanderthals were living in caves in France and Gibralter more than 30,000 years ago, and there is absolute genetic proof that there were also H. sapiens (today's humans) there with them, because the DNA is mixed.
@Mithra Risen this is what I found off a search :Pyramids in China - Crystalinks. The pyramids of China are approximately 100 ancient mounds, many of which were used for burial. Most of them are located within 100 kilometers of the city of Xi'an, on the Qin Chuan Plains in the Shaanxi Province, central China. The existence of pyramids in China has come in two stages.
@@ElizabethMBoyd That should be possible, and even if whites didn't rule there, they existed and mixed with the locals. An emperor named Sun Quan during the three kingdoms period had "red hair" and "green eyes" according to historical documents. That can't be ordinary, can it?
That’s about the same time the Proto-Indo-Europeans were expanding outwards. They’re the ancestors of so many cultures and empires, several of which have influenced China. Buddhism is an Indo-European word, just a clue.
China's 5000 years of history pales into insignificance when compared to that of the Australian Aborigines who have a culture going back in excess of 20,000 years. But that doesn't mean that either one is necessarily superior or more advanced whether culturally, morally or technologically.
Love this episode. Agree that several thousand years of history mean nothing. I do believe that certain cultures are better than others. Compare the things cultures produce. I'll take liberty over tyranny any day. By the way, I love your new channel, Worthless Whips. I recognize some of the roads you drive on! :-)
Go for it! You will have a great time, the people are very friendly and if they are not, you will not understand the very few of them calling you names.
What country has the oldest, *continuous* government on Earth? number 1...a microstate called San Marino. Second: The United States of America Chairman Mao's photo has been up for 70 years General Washington's portrait has been up for 244 years
Wrong: the Vatican City with over 2000y is the remnant of the Roman Empire! Great video, thank you! I agree that the USA & South Africa are much older than modern China, only because of the psychopathic Mao govt. that effectively destroyed the ancient Chinese culture. Now, if the Kuomintang Chiang Kai Shek govt. had not been run out of the country by the communist revolution, & was allowed to evolve peacefully into modern China, perhaps the 5000y analogy would be truthful. Unfortunately, the Sabbatean-Frankists, fueled by Rothschild et al. money, have been hell bent on taking over the world since the time of Sabbatai Tzvi (Zevi) & Jacob Frank, who had created an inversion Judaism Satanic Death cult with 1 million followers, that had infiltrated many govts. & corporations, while hiding in plain sight among the diaspora of Jewry, & they coined the Bolshevic Revolution in Russia, & realized that they absolutely HAD to conquer China, the world's most populous country, in order to conquer the world. Their evil continues to live on in the CCP.
@@c000rr The Vatican is the oldest official organization in the Western world, but they were not a government until the 1920s. Before that they were administered by Italy and before that they were the Papal States and before that they were administered by various states of the post-Roman world.
It is always fun to examine a culture and how old some parts of it are. But China shouldn't be given any more credit for longevity than Greece or Italy. Modern China isn't a 5,000 year old empire.
@@ADVChina I was just referring to your one week motorcycle ride/one week green screen schedule. I mean, your content and conversions are always great regardless, but when I started watching today I was just thinking "oh I missed the motorcycle and drone footage for every episode". Anyway, keep up the great work and great discussions! I know you guys are working hard
A true thing is that Japan preserved so many Chinese texts that were totally destroyed in China, and Chinese people as well as anyone in the world that consider the whole total of what all the human cultures have produced as valuable can thank Japan for preserving some of them so meticulously, and be appalled at how much was destroyed from Chinese/Tibetan/Central Asian/Hmong cultures etc... Sadly, Japan preserved some but other texts were definately lost. 90% of Tibet litterature as well has been burned and we now can only have a few of it back from what was preserved in Nepal and so on. It's like if Daesh would claim to be the champion of 5 000 years of history in the Middle East from Sumer & Babylon to present days after having burned everything and destoyed the statues with drillers. But really a "superior" culture as they will say : "such and such minorities have totally abandonned their culture and adopted the Chinese one, BECAUSE IT WAS SUPERIOR TO THEM" is how they will explain to you what happened. Stupid ethnocentrism born from lie and ignorance, you can be proud !
3:34 in fact it also makes a counter argument in regards to their claim of the South China sea belonging to them since they say it was the old border of China 3000 years ago. Yes it belonged to Old China but never to the New *Communist* China created by Mao
Panda Express has high sanitation standards in the fast food industry. You can also purchase a bottled drink or fountain soda, to get the red envelope with coupons for next visit. It is the employees job to upsale your order though. As long as you make a purchase, Saturday January 25th. While supplies last.
I see the first case has arrived here in Seattle, WA. Chinese authorities have stated it is transmissible from person to person. Time for the face mask and much hand washing. Good luck to us all.
@@williamswenson5315 Time for real immigration and travel controls into the U.S. Protecting your people from dying from communicable diseases is a basic national security issue. It failed with West Nile, which was brought in by illegals (in their blood). A friend of mine's husband died from West NIle. He was only 50.
Next time you hear someone say "5000 years of history", just show how interested you are in their awesome culture and ask them to explain at least three things that happened for each set of a thousand years. Maybe also ask if that's not enough because there must be more that happened in such long periods, but they may not have all day.
I have good friends and relatives from both the Chinese mainland and from the nation of Taiwan. ( I’m from the USA.) Whenever I hear the argument about “our culture being 5 - 8,000 years old”, I point out that after all that time you still write using pictures and eat using two sticks.
I recently saw an interview with American Astronaut Michael Collins who was on the first moon mission. He said as the astronauts toured the world, after returning to Earth everyone would come up to them(the astronauts Collins, Armstrong and Aldrin) and say "WE DID IT". ...This event became, for the rest of the world , part of the collective.
This comment gets deleted again and again, so I'm distorting every little word that could be misconstrued as "bad" by the TH-cam censors. To a lesser extend, a similar thing unfortunately is going on in most of Europe too. Here everyone takes pride in some ancient s=h=i=t and lives in the past to some extend. The Greek are obsessed with how "they" gave the world democracy and philosophy and mathematics, the Italians think they invented civilization itself, the Eastern Europeans still hold on to medieval grudges and will tell you how one of "your kings" s=c=r=e==w=e=d over one of "their kings" 800 years ago. Germany is turning itself into a giant open air museum where you can't build anything new because it might obstruct the view on to some 1000 year old timbered house where some music composer or philosopher was born and English people pine for their lost empire and it rarely takes long till they mention longbows or Spitfires. I was born and raised in Germany and you're surrounded by old s=h=i=t here. One of my aunts lived in a house that was 700+ years old, the main building of my elementary school was 1500 years old (We had to walk the stairs on the sides because the middle of the foot thick granite slabs the stairs were build of were polished round and slick by so many generations of people walking up and down.) and we were playing in medieval castle ruins as kids. About 10 years ago they found a 4000 year old grave site full of gold and bronze artifacts like 500 yards away from my house and I hadn't even heard of it till I saw pictures of it in the village's municipal government building recently, when I had to renew my passport. This stuff is just too common to make many waves. It is just a nuisance because every time someone wants to build something and they dig a hole for the cellar, they find some ancient catacomb or the forgotten cellar of another house from thousands of years ago and construction grinds to a halt till the archaeologists went through everything. Also, "continuous history" isn't that impressive either. The village I live in and the nearest town where I went to school are called "Hessigheim" and "Besigheim" and can be traced back to two Allemann tribesmen named Haso and Baso, who founded them as homesteads in the Bronze Age, about 3000 to 4000 years ago and were first time mentioned as towns or villages in preserved historical documents from 500 years before Christ. I'd like to see the Chinese trace back the history of some tiny b=a=c=k=w=a=t=e=r village with 2500 year old papers that can still be read today and tell you what some otherwise insignificant farmer who founded it thousands of years before that was called. Not that it matters, but if we're playing that game... As I said, all this s=h=i=t is just baggage that they can fill up museums with, which nobody would ever visit if it weren't for elementary school teachers dragging their students through them on field trips. I can trace my family back to a bunch of Swedish knights who came through southern Germany on their way to join the Second C=r=u=s=a=d=e in the 12th Century but then decided to just stay here and take over a castle that had been abandoned by a native German knight who also was on his way to the C=r=u=s=a=d=e himself, hehehe. So I am the descendant of some l=o=w=l=i=f=e squatters. The castle existed till W=W=2 and my father's granny was the last child born there. The castle was turned into a m=i=l=i=t=a=r=y hospital during the w=a=r and was b=o=m=b=e=d and destroyed by the A=l=l=i=e=s. And guess what, boring random strangers with TH-cam comments nobody cares about is the only thing I can do with that useless knowledge. What is the point? We all have to live our own lives in the present and make names for ourselves and people who cling too much to the past and pride over what their ancestors did, tend to not be very good at that. If the ancient Chinese were so great at inventing stuff, then where did that talent go? Why do modern Chinese copy and steal so much from those u=n=c=u=l=t=u=r=e=d w=e=s=t=e=r=n b=a=r=b=a=r=i=a=n=s?
My Chinese wife literally says she is human and I am not, because.... neanderthals. She also says she is civilized, and I am a barbarian. Now, lucky for me, my wife was looking for a little barbarian in her civilized life. 😉 and it is token of humor and endearment between us. But, I have also come to realize that on a very basic level, it is exactly how she has been taught to view foreigners.
The Han have among the highest percent of Neanderthal DNA of anybody on the planet. They range up to 6%, while the rest of the world has around 3% or less. Current research is also investigating their relationship with the Denisovan people, who were there BEFORE the Han.
Winston/Matt, have you ever covered the Chinese habit of sitting on the edge of a seat? I see this all over here where Chinese people congregate, the edge of their butt is quite literally at the very front end of a chair with a large 3-5 inch gap between their back and the chair's back. This drives me insane especially in crowded restaurants making it very difficult to move around, even for waitstaff. It's especially annoying when I'm sitting properly and up against the table when someone behind me sits like like above taking up as much space as me yet they're half my size, their chair is banging against mine, and I have no space yield.
I highly doubt modern China has that much of a significant connection to the ancient dynasties of the past. They have as much connection to those dynasties as Italians do to the Roman empire.
What have the Chinese accomplished nothing except doing s*** that we did back in the 60s and stealing our technology which they still can't get to work right and making shity copies of all of our stuff way to go China 5000 years and you're still crap
I think every nation has some nonsense they believe and repeat. I US we think that we are all about freedom and that we are more free than other countries.
And not all land was made at the same time. Some of the oldest land (continental crust) on Earth is in Western Australia, at 3.6 billion years old. The newest land is that which comes from volcanic mid ocean ridges or hot spots, such as the islands which make up the 'tail' of the islands of Hawaii.
They just had more years to screw-up. Screw-ups guaranteed since there is little if any willingness to practice self-examination in order to learn from mistakes.
PRC also likes to claim all overseas ethnic Chinese as their own, regardless of whether those people have different nationalities, speak different languages or practice different customs (some of which ironically are old Chinese customs that China doesn't even practice).
The Chinese count the origin of their civilization essentially to when agriculture was developed in East Asia, and not even counting that Western Civ is 3,000 years old.
@@blokeabouttown2490 Good one! :-) "Corona" means "crown" or "halo" in Spanish (and in late Latin, I believe). (A cognate in my native language Swedish is "krona".) The reason the virus is named "corona" is because, apparently, the infectious form of the virus particles take the shape of a crown, as can be seen under electron microscope.
I believe that the Human Race can only claim that much history and more. We gain as a civilization from testing ideas whether good or bad and adopting the best ideas that work.
They actually have among the highest percentage of Neanderthal DNA in the world. Get the book "50 GREAT MYTHS OF HUMAN EVOLUTION" for the citation and source of the genetic studies.
PROC should do less bragging and more reform. Bring home all the culture lost during the cultural revolution. Regain it's rightful place as the greatest country, maybe then winning the hearts and minds of the people.
It's all about hiding the corruption of their government and how second-rate their entire society is due to negligence. The PRC amps up national pride and anti-Western sentiment to keep their people blind to the fact that they're being used as sheep all over again.
I think this is a slippery slope question. While it’s not fair to claim that something that happened 5000 years ago is a result of you as an individual, it needs to hold its own in other situations. Such as: someone stating that you (as a person today) were responsible for slavery. Or that they (as a person) have a right to something because their ancestors were slaves. Now, I’m not condoning slavery in any way, I’m just showing the same correlation in a different situation. Great work guys. Keep it up.
Agreed. Before a statement like "China has 5000 years of history" can be made, we need to "define China." And hopefully, that definition doesn't state that China = PRC (which only has 70 years)
The paintings in Lascaux cave in France are dated to be around 19 000 years old, is that mean that French history is that old? Of course not. Predynastic archeological findings in Egypt suggest timeline for about 9000 BC, but everybody know that ancient Egyptian History and civilisation started around 3500 BC. That is why true Chinese history is no older than 2800 with first true Chinese writings. Chinese would like to see their beginnings with Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors but fact is that this beginnings are only legends and mythical stories. I think some Chinese will attack my comment but for your information please check your history (true one) and you will find that first written recordings are dated around 841BC after Emperor Li of Chou was exiled. In period of 770 to 255 BC extensive writings are visible on bronze ware of Chou dynasty. Some may claim that number of oracle bones were found with some writings on them from the time of King Wu Ding of Shang but they do not represent China as advanced civilisation. This bones are dated for about 1250 BC and King Wu Ding is recognised as earliest figure but even if we will accept him as a representative of advanced Chinese civilisation we still missing 1800 years from this 5000 years of history.
I'm pretty sure most African nations have an even older history, poorly documented, but it still there to some degree. Then again there are cave drawings here and there in the world
I just received a brochure in the mail for some Chinese show called Shen Yun. It says right on the front 5000 years of civilization reborn! My husband and I just laughed. Our daughter-in-law is a Chinese National and believe me, her feelings toward her country are not pleasant. Thanks for the vid. Stay Awesome!
That particular troop is from the Taiwan Republic in which people from all over old China had manage to gather together some threads of the old culture and keep them alive. This part of China actually is genuine culture. Chris Chappelle on China Uncovered talks about this at length in one of his little news videos.
There are serious doubts about whether Shen Yun actually portrays authentic ancient Chinese dancing and other cultural aspects. It's a huge propaganda op by a crazy right-wing cult that sounds remarkably like some bible-thumping US-Conservative CIA implant.
Bit worn-out topic for you, but sound reasoning; Although some nuances might be lost if too much focus is on attacking the easy marks. 11:49 Yep, China is younger than the USA in that their bullshit is less evolved and elaborate. The need for better hasn't arisen yet. And the USA are definitely in the old-age phase, since they are moving *back towards* that state, and there is surely more of that to come in the near future. 12:00 Well, if we compare countries in a better-than way based on cultural merits, it should be holistic. Unlike South Africa, the USA offload their pieceofcrappiness onto other countries, so to speak. A nation that allows their elected government to terrorize the world and sow murder, mayhem and misery because the spoils of war allow a more convenient lifestyle and thus remove feedback against their denial and add ease of elevating one's self-perception, ... that is quite the rotten place, deeply indoctrinated with government propaganda, but ultimately people do this to themselves. The USA is like one of those people you mentioned recently that are totally awesome guys and easy to make friends with but then eventually you learn they're involved in some pretty shady business. Smart are those who learn lessons so they can apply them generally, even smarter are those who can transfer them into universal principles that apply to any kind of situation. (An example from social psychology would be the ability to analyze and treat a nation-entity or other type of organisation like a person. - It's related to the profound connection between macrocosm and microcosm. - But to become better at seeing connections, the mind musn't be in a divisive inner state. Synthesis is a function of love. And love isn't a superficial clichée of sunshine and rainbows. It is something most solemn, for allegiance means that servants of fear will become your enemy. And since love and fear neutralize each other, it will involve sacrifice.) 13:50 Well, no better way to sound like an average Murk. 😉 But did you know there are communist projects in the USA? And they're not terrible at all. They're quite empowering. In fact, the more you pay attention, the more points you can see where it is at work. If communism is so bad, then I guess the USA have been infiltrated and poisoned by it. The enemy is among you! 😨 But go ahead and keep demonizing it and you will get karmic feedback. Because the lesson that the universe is trying to teach here is much bigger; not for young souls, so to speak. As for the history thing again, you are focusing so much on the government propaganda claim that you might be neglecting the sociological view. As I mentioned before, China still has traits from their ancient history that couldn't be wiped out by the CCP's crude-superficial madness. To some degree they might even be aware of it, to some degree not, but if you let the CCP's messed up portrayal/use of the situation be the only target of examination, then their propaganda is actually blinding you, too, just through adversity instead of acceptance. Then some much bigger, much more powerful entity wins the propaganda battle.
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I like how you think you actually know what you're talking about. 😂 You keep doing you, chappie
Better than 99% of the replies here mostly from people who unconditionally hate China and the wumaos who attack them back with their commie propaganda. Let's throw them all into the same cesspool to fight it out!
@roguenoir - Thank you for your feedback. It is too rare. (Or maybe it is just natural. ... But then so is me feeling it is too rare. 😄) I did notice a change in general mood in the comment section with a change in the mood of the video content. The audience changes with the content. Back then when they couldn't be as critical of China as they'd wanted because they were still living there, the comment section was a generally nice place for intelligent and balanced discussion. But, in some insightful irony, now that they can speak their mind freely and catch up with all the negative points of critique, it has degraded a bit. One can see how easily the low energy activity invites bigots and follower-minds to voice their allegiance. And that is like a mass expression of the kind of 'friends' one should avoid - those who tell you what you want to hear and approve of your stuff unconditionally.
5000 years of history = 5000 years of tradition and culture. If you think any country can erase that in a few decades I have a bridge to sell you. Compare that to Europe with Gauls, Romans, Christians and other long lasting evolutions and differences between languages, cultures and countries etc. It is not, in reality, a claim of "better" but rather of "specific". Changing anything has to fight 5000 years of inertial resistance. "We did this" - see no. 18 of the Tao te ching = a specific example of the 5000 years in practice, Mao notwithstanding.
Yes, I said this before, and to be fair, I guess this video footage might have been made long ago, so not exactly their latest state of understanding. (Although I am keeping my expectations low, heh.) Dao De Jing #18 is actually a good lesson for the USA's current social madness of virtue signaling and ideological crusades that is so unlike for example the 'good old' Star Trek where the solution is portrayed without specific limelight onto it. Many people seem to not learn that lesson because it is not an ideological concept being spoken but just a mindset, a solution lived; a practical example of the desirable end state. No battle to be waged, no power gained in the process. (Power being what many are actually lusting for.)
@@mathewtoll6780 The Han often speak as if they were somehow "omnipresent" in "our China." The fact is that the Han came from somewhere else. They are in fact an "immigrant country," too, though they don't seem to realize it. Same with the Australian tribes.
@@mathewtoll6780 Exactly. All of these ultra racists, such as the Han Chinese and most blacks, need to realize that their own ancestors migrated, too. The often-used "here first" argument is absurd and incorrect for North America. The Indians were not even the first humans here! And they are by no means "native" Americans!
Quite possibly the most ancient and advanced civilization can be found in Israel. For example, they had time travel technology in ancient times. If you talk to Israelis today, many will be able to tell you who stole their home two millennia ago. And they're still quite upset about it.
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My whole life on TH-cam is about bashing China,
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@@旮旯北京 so stop doing it then...
I would prefer, if you could continue running advpodcast ;-)
There hasn't been an episode in like 4 weeks.
Can u guys talk about Chinese electric cars & the company (BYD) compared to Tesla? Self driving car technology, profitability, RIDE share vs. Uber? Just sharing some ideas.
It's not 5000 years of culture, it's they had culture 5000 years ago.
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@Rayfield Wright -
China´s leading party "CCP" destroyed 5000 Years of culture , worse than Stalin & Hitler combined did.
@@Killerspieler0815 you didn't understand what I wrote.
The Chinese is 五千年的历史 -- '5000 years of history'. And I've encountered Chinese who do reject Egypt as a rival because 'Egypt has gaps in its record'. So the claim is for '5000 years of continuous history'.
@@gregpringle1299 the last +70 years is also a huge "gap" 🙄
5000 years of history and civility - still throwing loose change in jet engines
And brainwashing kids to blindly follow their parents even when they're 30 or 40 or older.
I have to wonder if humanity will ever outlive superstition.
And spitting pissing and shitting in the streets.
@@HaceSunnyDSol I have never been to NYC (have you?) nor do I want to go there! Sounds like your are justifying filth in another place will justify filth in China! Dude, two wrongs don't make a right. I understand, 5,000 years of culture in China will result in your warped logic!
True! (On the other hand, I'm not entirely convinced that "talking" to an invisible daddy in the sky and "his" since two millennia dead "son" is any more advanced...) :-D
Believing that Chinese people having different special DNA is like believing the earth is flat
They are all devout followers of the Church Lady.
Prove it's not! 😂🤣😂
If you look at the genetic anthropology studies that have been done, the Han Chinese actually have a higher Neanderthal component (=more genes) than the average for the rest of the world. They mixed. They are not even the "first people" in China, either. They are exactly what they use as a slander against the USA: "an immigrant nation!"
Depends on what you mean. The overwhelming majority of East Asians most definitely DO come from a somewhat different gene pool mix (everyone is a mix) than Europeans or subsaharan Africans (but, of course, that doesn't magically follow China's borders). By the same token, everyone NOT from an exclusive subsaharan African background carry a small amount of Neanderthal genes, while Subsharan Africans typically or normally don't. Other now extinct groups of humans such as Denisovans have also left some traces (in Melanesians, Aboriginal Australians, and Papuans).
They do
I've lived in China for 7 years now and am still amazed by this so far advanced , peaceful and civilized society. Last year they were slaughtering dogs in Hangzhou because of one bad pet owner getting in a fight with some lady. Love seeing the advanced people shitting in the bushes on my way to work everyday. Love going out to dinner and someone is puffing a cig at the table next to me while spitting on the floor and spitting out bones on the table, while throwing their beer bottles on the ground...shall I go on?? Or how about the old peaceful and wise peoples of China shoving their way into an elevator before I can disembark...ah, such peace and wisdom..the guy behind me in a traffic jam laying on his horn, even tho there is no where to go...ok...enough..
Yet they say these people are supposed to be a high IQ population.
yes , you are right , i am a chinese
Don't get me wrong. I have some amazing Chinese friends and my awesome wife is Chinese. But most of the society is just push, shove and rude.
@@blokeabouttown2490 propaganda. The majority of people are poor and uneducated. Its not entirely their fault. They are basically cut off from the outside world. We wouldn't want to spark any free thinking. That's dangerous to the well being of the ccp.
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I've heard that they tend to be good at math and virtually nothing else.
All the mainland Chinese have to do is look around themselves at all the modern stuff and ask themselves honestly, how much of it was invented in China?
That and how little of it is seen in the vast rural areas of China.
@Lon Spector can't tell if this is in reference to a certain president, or the opposition
Sometimes the truth hurts, doesn't it. Even the bullshit you spew is not a Chinese invention,. LOL@Alpha Cheong Lun Shen
@Alpha Cheong Lun ShenHistory of calculus or infinitesimal calculus, is a history of a mathematical discipline focused on limits, functions, derivatives, integrals, and infinite series. Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz independently invented calculus in the mid-17th century.
@Alpha Cheong Lun ShenIn the early 1950s, American biologist James Watson and British physicist Francis Crick came up with their famous model of the DNA double helix. You are kind of dumb right?
I heard Taiwan retained Chinese history & culture.
Even China admits to that
@@roguenoir but taiwan is seen as a part of china. and taiwan sees china as part of taiwan. so, this is kind of a weird situation... and currently I don't see a way to resolve that.
@唱多馬 Beyond maintaining the status quo and waiting, I can't think of one.
@@hubertseidl93 Because Taiwan (ROC) used to rule mainland China from 1911 to 1949. Hopefully, one day, Taiwan will regain mainland China.
Mostly yes, but do consider that Taiwan was significantly influenced as a colony by Japan, so whilst similar, it is still somewhat removed of what (for the lack of a better term) "pure" Chinese culture would be like, if it weren't for the CCP.
Hong Kong is older than China.
Joe Shmoe I thought it was an uninhabited inhospitable island before the British took it over. 😐😐😐😐
@@John77Doe The British got there in 1841. China the country we know today was founded in 1949. So, Hong Kong is infact older.
@Aaron Self - It's (at least arguably) not a British colony anymore. When does such an entity become a new one?
@@Dowlphin While the British did hand over Hong Kong to China, the laws have remained from the British rule. Moreover you need a passport to go from China to Hong Kong. So I would still classify Hong Kong as still the same area. Though in a few years it will revert entirely to Chinese rule so when that happens id say it will stop being the Hong Kong we know today and will be the newest addition to China.
@@aaronself2411 And I suspect it will be an ugly, ugly event when it does happen.
This kind of "bragging" indicates a fundamental lack of self-confidence. This is true for individuals, and nations.
And bar-set-low syndrome can be identified nationally and internationally.
there is certainly not that much to brag about the present for the chinese
Many people in China do have lack of self-confidence in their own country, especially the older generations. However, the people born after 1990 and 2000 are getting more and more confident for their own country. Many of younger generation uses VPN to get on TH-cam and other website outside of China's internet "wall" and see what it's like on the other side of the wall, but ended up loving China even more. This is also one of the reason why China doesn't puts any one that uses VPN into Jail. According to China's law, use VPN is illegal, but is not an crime. Only uses VPN to share message harmful to China counts as crime. China knows million of people uses VPN , but they don't care, because the official knows that the confident of newer generation is rising.
Nasjonalism is good for winning wars though. 🤔
Whats going in China with the coronavirus epidemic.... seems like a good story for AFV China
gotta add lime
It's spread by humans, especially filthy pigs who spit all over the sidewalks.
Don't kiss pigs or waterfowl. Sound advice.
It’s in south Beijing now as well as the US. Supposed to be similar to the SARS strand. :((
A year later:
Here I am sticking a cotton bud up my nose every other day to see if i have covid and i'm the other side of the world.
Hilariously the box says made in China on it and it even features a "QC passed certificate" with a nice red star on it an a load of Chinese writing. I know they're trying to use the tests as a way of projecting soft power but to me it's just reminding me why i'm having to stick a massive cotton bud up my nose and tickle my tonsils every couple days.
I just flew from Madrid to Texas with some Chinese people. Culturally their manners are very different than U.S. such as burping and farting in public. Do not mean to stereotype but I have seen this behavior multiple times from Chinese people. I work in a hospital and have seen Chinese residents eat with their face in the bowl and shovel food into their mouth. Very different than I am accustomed.
Pigs
Funny how Chinese people who're not raised in China retain the same qualities. No regard for cleanliness, poor personal hygiene,self centred. Almost like it's built into them
@@pooja350 It's not in every Chinese person. Just the ones who don't travel out of China or out of Chinatown(if they are in a foreign country) They are only surrounded by the same ppl doing the same things so it is socially acceptable for them.
Are we just not going to talk about that speedometer basically saying "I dunno man whatever speed you think your going, that's it."
lol
The bouncing needle? I was hoping that was the fuel gauge. That and the speedos are probably in km/hr.
Who cares, they are in Vietnam and are driving at a reasonable speed
@@DMD2409 It was a joke.... You're clearly the friend who never gets invited to parties.
@@DMD2409 Everyone needs a pooper that's why they have you, party pooper...
China plays both sides of the coin. 1) "We are the worlds super power. "2) We are a developing nation. We take advantage of the Universal Postal Treaty so we can sell our cheap crap to you, made with slave labor, and ship to you cheap. We don't want to allow other goods to be sold in our country because we are third world. Trade rules should be balanced to benefit China. We should be aloud to steal your technology since we are developing nation, without any consequences. If we let you do business here we want your technology. Our students are the best, but since we are third world we want to come to your university. We are third world, you can't expect us to help humanity when trouble strikes. We are third world with 5000 year history of shit. "We are world's superpower."
And India
World Super Shit !
@Mitch India has political parties and presidential elections, China does not.
I'm glad you brought this up. Their 4 thousand years of history ain't like that of Ancient Rome which was a continuous empire for 1500 years. Or of similar lengths with Egypt. For Chinese there was no mono culture or history or government for a long period of time. And after communism all that history and culture was destroyed. They are simply people living on a continent and related to the Chinese of the past who did those things but have fuck all in common. No decedent culture or history. Hell and with things like the mongol invasion many may not even be related or of the same ethnicity.
In truth, today's China is younger then we are.
FaillenOtaku yeah, the Chinese pre-great-leap-backward had just as much in common with ancient China as the Occident has with Rome or Greece
China itself was conquered by Manchus before it became republic 100 years ago.
PRC is pretty much influenced by the Soviets of Russia in the past.
That 5000 year is bs. It's not as "continuous".
In fact, Korea and Japan have kept more transitional Chinese culture than PRC.
Rome was atleast 2000 by its fall. Atleast 400BC to 1453AD
The traces of traditional Chinese culture can be seen all the way in Japan, from chop sticks and roof styles of temples, to food, words, and writing system. Just like Americans have further developed things from Europe (for example rugby into American football), so has Japan developed things from China into things perceived as Japanese.
@@SA-rb5xq re: Rome
Of course the Romans were intellectually gobsmaked by Athenian Greece. Even the early Republic had strong citizen participation; the Consuls were elected for a single one year term, for instance. In addition, citizenship confered legal restrictions on the state power against the citizen. Torture was illegal and capital cases had appeal to the emperor.
China had debates on these things as well but Confucian hierarchal "virtue" prevailed over legalism. The historical impact is only substantial, however, because the West was able to develop these things into a sustained industrial revolution. Only Japan had the cultural ability to adapt the obvious to its own purposes and did so immediately.
'Alive and unraped..' nearly fell off my chair. Even vegemite is older than China :)
Can I get a sandwich?
@@BillFromTheHill100 Of course comrade !
1st time a Chinese person told me that it was said near to 5000 years. The next person said 5000 years. After that someone told me China has more than 5000 years of history. Just as you mentioned some now are saying over 8000. Then some comrade comes along and says 70 years 🤯
The last dude😂😂
Several years from now they'll say ____?
@Lon Spector Here? Speak for your own country. BTW big deal too. Your country has nothing to do with my comment, unless you are from China.
@Lon Spector Whataboutism serves you well?
But what about things in US?
Me? I know who I am. I'ma dude. playn' a dude. disguised as another dude.
Man, I love that song.
I smile every time it comes up
@ C M Caitlyn Jenner as well.
0:26 Vietnam ADV
Ditto :-)
There's something soothing about it. Not sue if its the song, or the ADV China episodes in Vietnam were always awesome.
Would love to see that segment where the Chinese got disappointed that their DNA is not that different than other
China does have the best/largest quantity of reverse-engineers, spies and propagandists in the world.
These would be invaluable skills in fight against an extraterrestrial force with only slightly greater technological level.
So what you are saying is china has UFO technology
@@mostlypeacefulrowan8747 In an alternate universe where X-Com was a historical event instead of game, sure.
I don't think Winston is right about Chinese culture being only 70 years old. Just cause the modern commie China emerged relatively recently and destroyed a bunch of documents and relics, doesn't mean the cultural history has been wiped out. Like you said, the traditional beliefs & medicine still exist in other countries like Japan and Taiwan. And the Chinese people still practice their traditional beliefs and culture in mainland China. Disregarding those 5k years of history just cause the commies took over would be like saying that, Serbia's (my country) culture was birthed in 2006 when the modern state of Serbia emerged.
@ I don't think they were talking about commies claiming that history, rather the average Joes of China
Yep, but this expresses the limits of their objectivity. When people's limits are tested, it gets interesting.
Winston tends to say he doesn't want to ride with a driver who never had an accident, because they don't know their limits. ... Well, have you really ever seen him crash, figuratively? That only works when someone else pushes people's limits. And as the saying goes, the chain breaks at the weakest link. And that's the most tempting to portray as strong by pointing at weaker links in other chains. - That which attempts to control us tries to distract our attention from it, since the things we are not aware of have the greatest power over us.
I live in Scotland and here, culture is very rich and very strong and its definitely very important to us. We'd never pretend that that makes us better.
Inventor of the telephone, Bell. What a great advancement for all mankind that Scotsman did! I challenge the Chinese to live without a phone.
And will keep the USS ENTERPRISE going at warp factor 7 even tho she canna take it captain in a few hundred years
@@garyhewitt489 you're God damn right!
Do not forget William Topaz McGonagle! The man who was the worst poet in history!! He was horrible, truly horrible, but dammit, after a few beers down the pub with a chaser of Scotch, it is a scream!! Long live McGonagle's bad rhyming about the River Tay!!
@@marykatherinegoode2773
So let's raise a glass to Bill McGonagle
Who wrote in verse, or was it doggerel.
Chinese should listen and heed his lines.
For they teach a lesson for modern times.
"For the stronger our houses we do build
The less chance we have of being killed".
My chinese teacher was so smug showing his foreign students the Ip Man movie as if it had anything to do with real chinese history. It was so ridiculous given the fact they tried to destroy kung-fu and now they are trying to use it for propaganda.
Russian war movies are only made for propangada purposes, even Hollywood war movies have more credibility... It's very funny to hear somebody from Russia criticizing China for this
franc tokyo I didn’t say our war movies are better. In fact we are sick of them yet there are still idiots who give their money for that type of crap.
5,000 years of warlords, emperors, dynasties and serfdom .... since ancient times.
In other words, five thousand years of being good peasants. Now doing the same thing for the CCP.
I've seen worse air pollution in Beijing and Guangzhou. I couldn't see 200 yards down the street and my eyes and lungs were burning.
Same here
5000 years of pollution.
@ oof. Nice
The "5000" year history "BS" might actually be true in Taiwan... Where the Chinese traditions are still very much in place. Obviously, It has grown beyond the "dynasty" period.... But, you can still see the traditions, etc...
Levin Soh ... are you referring to indigenous Taiwanese culture, or the Han culture that supplanted it?
@@dashcroft1892 The former.
Indigenous Taiwanese; OG Taiwan.
The first emperor, Chang Xi Huang Ti, did the same exact thing that this Mao character did-- he had all the old histories seized and burned, everything that he could obtain destroyed, and all the philosophers that they could capture were buried up to their necks. I don't remember if they were left to die of thirst and exposure, or if they ran a herd of horses over them
Do you know if that happened more often since then?
I’ve heard each dynasty has done this, but I have no reference to confirm that hearsay.
Far more important than the purported age of a culture is what types of personalities have successive governments allowed to live and which have been purged from the gene pool. We don't like to think that humans can be consciously or even just inadvertently bred for personality type but that's exactly what governments are doing when they murder some (usually freedom-loving) citizens and promote the breeding success of others more accepting of their servitude. We do this with animals all the time: cats, dogs, horses, etc are bred for personality type in addition to physical characteristics. Even the chickens I own I selected because their breed is known for being more "mellow", and it's true -- just ask the sweet-natured Buff Orpington hen sitting at my feet. China is what it is not because of 5,000 years of culture, but because China, up to the present day, whacks anyone who resists government authority too much, and all Chinese know it.
@Lon Spector Wu mao!
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That's exactly why Japan is like it is because of over a thousand years of Samurai rule. A culture in which you were not allowed to raise your eyes to look at the Sovereign Lord's face unless he gave you permission to do so.
If he did not give you permission to do so and you stood up to look hikm full in the face, he could whack your head off without warning. Legally.
I guess a thousand years of that would kind of change the complexion of things.
@Lon Spector
After the orange man is sworn in for his second term, then the Sea Hag will be indicted. Not too long after that she'll give up all of her buddies to try to keep from serving 99.99 years in jail....
It's going to look really interesting when they get around to Comey, Schiff, and the Kenyan.
"I think communism is freaking terrible!" -Cmilk 2020
Yet, Cock-Milk spent YEARS in China AND then moved to another Communist strong hold: Kommyfornia.
@@DemocracyDoctor1 You obviously don't know what communism really is. Calling whole those liberals in California commies means only that you are an idiot with IQ similar to the IQ of the bacteria.
@ a mix of capitalists and democratic socialist
@ if you would ever lived in communist country you wouldn't ask silly question.
@@werthor7083 oh no looks like you are the commie pro kid here , so these libtards want the gov to take away our income and give it all to migrants colors and other deviant groups , if that is not commie style then you are not so pro after all
You two always find the best and most relevant topics to discuss. I completely agree with what you said because I was wondering a lot about the same thing too. Why do the Chinese, including Xi while hosting Trump in the Forbidden City, always resort to the 5,000-year history for pride and to belittle other cultures? If what the 5,000-year history could do best was create a totalitarian system and dictators like Mao and Xi, there is really nothing to brag about.
@Alpha Cheong Lun Shen Believing in buying friendship is the beginning of disaster.
Dj Gnu Name one country that is a genuine friend of China. Even the "blood and flesh" brother of North Korea despises its gigantic neighbor. That's a fact. Without money to give away or bribe the African countries, China has no friend. When it's money runs out, China runs out of friends.
Alpha Cheong Lun Shen What the dragon is capable of creating and contributing to the world is widely known and witnessed: parents hoarding milk powder for their infant babies from Australia; women sneaking into the United States to give births; high officials hiding their wealth in the West and sending their kids and mistresses to the countries they belittle; tourists fighting for the last shrimp at buffet tables as if there was no tomorrow; hopeless folks faking accidents to blackmail innocent drivers out of their last dime (碰瓷), to name only a tiny fraction of the many. When and only when you have addressed those eyes sores can you truly claim you're superior and be proud. The 5,000-year heritage cannot even eliminate poisonous milk powder or stop fake vaccines for the future of your nation: children. What are you really proud of? High speed trains and swanky skyscrapers are not the future of the Chinese nation; the quality and humanity of its people are.
Great video, thank you! I agree that the USA & South Africa are much older than modern China, only because of the psychopathic Mao govt. that effectively destroyed the ancient Chinese culture.
Now, if the Kuomintang Chiang Kai Shek govt. had not been run out of the country by the communist revolution, & was allowed to evolve peacefully into modern China, perhaps the 5000y analogy would be truthful.
Unfortunately, the Sabbatean-Frankists, fueled by Rothschild et al. money, have been hell bent on taking over the world since the time of Sabbatai Tzvi (Zevi) & Jacob Frank, who had created an inversion Judaism Satanic Death cult with 1 million followers, that had infiltrated many govts. & corporations, while hiding in plain sight among the diaspora of Jewry, & they coined the Bolshevic Revolution in Russia, & realized that they absolutely HAD to conquer China, the world's most populous country, in order to conquer the world. Their evil continues to live on in the CCP.
There are more or less simultaneous traces of civilizations in Europe around Danube river and Black Sea, Nile river, Mesopotamia (Tigris and Euphrate rivers) so called Fertile Crescent, Indus river and of course Yangtze river but there is nothing which says there is a First civilization anywhere. Anyway the first acupuncture use was found in Alps, the mummy Otzi the iceman 5300 years old, 2000 years before acupuncture use in China.
@Mithra Risen and the pyimid s in China with white red heads mummies, seems the first rulers there where white
The Neanderthals were living in caves in France and Gibralter more than 30,000 years ago, and there is absolute genetic proof that there were also H. sapiens (today's humans) there with them, because the DNA is mixed.
@Mithra Risen this is what I found off a search :Pyramids in China - Crystalinks. The pyramids of China are approximately 100 ancient mounds, many of which were used for burial. Most of them are located within 100 kilometers of the city of Xi'an, on the Qin Chuan Plains in the Shaanxi Province, central China. The existence of pyramids in China has come in two stages.
@@ElizabethMBoyd
That should be possible, and even if whites didn't rule there, they existed and mixed with the locals. An emperor named Sun Quan during the three kingdoms period had "red hair" and "green eyes" according to historical documents. That can't be ordinary, can it?
That’s about the same time the Proto-Indo-Europeans were expanding outwards. They’re the ancestors of so many cultures and empires, several of which have influenced China. Buddhism is an Indo-European word, just a clue.
70 years history. That's what they just celebrated a few months ago, I remember.
China's 5000 years of history pales into insignificance when compared to that of the Australian Aborigines who have a culture going back in excess of 20,000 years. But that doesn't mean that either one is necessarily superior or more advanced whether culturally, morally or technologically.
Love this episode. Agree that several thousand years of history mean nothing. I do believe that certain cultures are better than others. Compare the things cultures produce. I'll take liberty over tyranny any day.
By the way, I love your new channel, Worthless Whips. I recognize some of the roads you drive on! :-)
Deadass great Chanel. Y’all made me want to visit mainland China and Asia in general.
Go for it! You will have a great time, the people are very friendly and if they are not, you will not understand the very few of them calling you names.
What country has the oldest, *continuous* government on Earth?
number 1...a microstate called San Marino. Second:
The United States of America
Chairman Mao's photo has been up for 70 years
General Washington's portrait has been up for 244 years
I'm sorry but it's
Continuous
@@angeloreyes1951 on a phone. Auto complete sucks
Wrong: the Vatican City with over 2000y is the remnant of the Roman Empire!
Great video, thank you! I agree that the USA & South Africa are much older than modern China, only because of the psychopathic Mao govt. that effectively destroyed the ancient Chinese culture.
Now, if the Kuomintang Chiang Kai Shek govt. had not been run out of the country by the communist revolution, & was allowed to evolve peacefully into modern China, perhaps the 5000y analogy would be truthful.
Unfortunately, the Sabbatean-Frankists, fueled by Rothschild et al. money, have been hell bent on taking over the world since the time of Sabbatai Tzvi (Zevi) & Jacob Frank, who had created an inversion Judaism Satanic Death cult with 1 million followers, that had infiltrated many govts. & corporations, while hiding in plain sight among the diaspora of Jewry, & they coined the Bolshevic Revolution in Russia, & realized that they absolutely HAD to conquer China, the world's most populous country, in order to conquer the world. Their evil continues to live on in the CCP.
@@c000rr The Vatican is the oldest official organization in the Western world, but they were not a government until the 1920s. Before that they were administered by Italy and before that they were the Papal States and before that they were administered by various states of the post-Roman world.
It is the British crown, but America is up there
China I'm the oldest civilisation .
Entire old Arabian world : laughs in sand castles.
What you said doesn't make sense,china is older than Arabian civilization
It is always fun to examine a culture and how old some parts of it are. But China shouldn't be given any more credit for longevity than Greece or Italy. Modern China isn't a 5,000 year old empire.
I mean Greece, Italy, Egypt are defo not ancient Greece, Roman's or Ancient Egyptians like Brits/Germans/French are far from our origins as Trojans
@@justgeneric2876 your origins as Trojans? Are you for real?
As they are now they have maybe 70 years of history
And a large percent of it, is not good.
I do miss the old days when every episode was an adventure on wheels. Even just a ride around Cali would be more fun than the green screen imho
How is this green screen?
@@ADVChina I was just referring to your one week motorcycle ride/one week green screen schedule. I mean, your content and conversions are always great regardless, but when I started watching today I was just thinking "oh I missed the motorcycle and drone footage for every episode". Anyway, keep up the great work and great discussions! I know you guys are working hard
Spitting sucks and there are a ton of people in downtown Kansas City that do it. It's like walking around landmines down there. Booo
Easily spreads diseases.
Go Chiefs!
Spitting is the worst. We have an issue with it here in London too amongst Indians and Somalis.
A true thing is that Japan preserved so many Chinese texts that were totally destroyed in China, and Chinese people as well as anyone in the world that consider the whole total of what all the human cultures have produced as valuable can thank Japan for preserving some of them so meticulously, and be appalled at how much was destroyed from Chinese/Tibetan/Central Asian/Hmong cultures etc...
Sadly, Japan preserved some but other texts were definately lost.
90% of Tibet litterature as well has been burned and we now can only have a few of it back from what was preserved in Nepal and so on.
It's like if Daesh would claim to be the champion of 5 000 years of history in the Middle East from Sumer & Babylon to present days after having burned everything and destoyed the statues with drillers.
But really a "superior" culture as they will say : "such and such minorities have totally abandonned their culture and adopted the Chinese one, BECAUSE IT WAS SUPERIOR TO THEM" is how they will explain to you what happened.
Stupid ethnocentrism born from lie and ignorance, you can be proud !
Good video guys, you always seem to find really interesting topics
Wow! How much footage did you guys take while you were in Vietnam? Holy cow, it's been months since you were there
1.44 megabytes of footage
@@ADVChina Wow your compression techniques know no bounds.
That is amazing!!
We get the 5000 Years Of History line incessantly in South Korea too.
3:34 in fact it also makes a counter argument in regards to their claim of the South China sea belonging to them since they say it was the old border of China 3000 years ago. Yes it belonged to Old China but never to the New *Communist* China created by Mao
“Communism breeds bad drivers!”
“Communist drivers are the worst!”
LOL! There’s your next t-shirt design right there dudes 😁
That's like suggesting they should make an "...and all I got is this lousy t-shirt" one.
Don't forget, Saturday January 25th, Chinese New Year.
Panda Express gives out red envelopes with coupons that day. Don't miss out.
Does that come with the latest coronavirus?
Panda Express has high sanitation standards in the fast food industry. You can also purchase a bottled drink or fountain soda, to get the red envelope with coupons for next visit. It is the employees job to upsale your order though. As long as you make a purchase, Saturday January 25th. While supplies last.
No, thanks.
I see the first case has arrived here in Seattle, WA. Chinese authorities have stated it is transmissible from person to person. Time for the face mask and much hand washing. Good luck to us all.
@@williamswenson5315 Time for real immigration and travel controls into the U.S. Protecting your people from dying from communicable diseases is a basic national security issue. It failed with West Nile, which was brought in by illegals (in their blood). A friend of mine's husband died from West NIle. He was only 50.
Next time you hear someone say "5000 years of history", just show how interested you are in their awesome culture and ask them to explain at least three things that happened for each set of a thousand years. Maybe also ask if that's not enough because there must be more that happened in such long periods, but they may not have all day.
I have good friends and relatives from both the Chinese mainland and from the nation of Taiwan. ( I’m from the USA.) Whenever I hear the argument about “our culture being 5 - 8,000 years old”, I point out that after all that time you still write using pictures and eat using two sticks.
I recently saw an interview with American Astronaut Michael Collins who was on the first moon mission. He said as the astronauts toured the world, after returning to Earth everyone would come up to them(the astronauts Collins, Armstrong and Aldrin) and say "WE DID IT". ...This event became, for the rest of the world , part of the collective.
This comment gets deleted again and again, so I'm distorting every little word that could be misconstrued as "bad" by the TH-cam censors.
To a lesser extend, a similar thing unfortunately is going on in most of Europe too. Here everyone takes pride in some ancient s=h=i=t and lives in the past to some extend. The Greek are obsessed with how "they" gave the world democracy and philosophy and mathematics, the Italians think they invented civilization itself, the Eastern Europeans still hold on to medieval grudges and will tell you how one of "your kings" s=c=r=e==w=e=d over one of "their kings" 800 years ago. Germany is turning itself into a giant open air museum where you can't build anything new because it might obstruct the view on to some 1000 year old timbered house where some music composer or philosopher was born and English people pine for their lost empire and it rarely takes long till they mention longbows or Spitfires.
I was born and raised in Germany and you're surrounded by old s=h=i=t here. One of my aunts lived in a house that was 700+ years old, the main building of my elementary school was 1500 years old (We had to walk the stairs on the sides because the middle of the foot thick granite slabs the stairs were build of were polished round and slick by so many generations of people walking up and down.) and we were playing in medieval castle ruins as kids.
About 10 years ago they found a 4000 year old grave site full of gold and bronze artifacts like 500 yards away from my house and I hadn't even heard of it till I saw pictures of it in the village's municipal government building recently, when I had to renew my passport. This stuff is just too common to make many waves.
It is just a nuisance because every time someone wants to build something and they dig a hole for the cellar, they find some ancient catacomb or the forgotten cellar of another house from thousands of years ago and construction grinds to a halt till the archaeologists went through everything.
Also, "continuous history" isn't that impressive either. The village I live in and the nearest town where I went to school are called "Hessigheim" and "Besigheim" and can be traced back to two Allemann tribesmen named Haso and Baso, who founded them as homesteads in the Bronze Age, about 3000 to 4000 years ago and were first time mentioned as towns or villages in preserved historical documents from 500 years before Christ.
I'd like to see the Chinese trace back the history of some tiny b=a=c=k=w=a=t=e=r village with 2500 year old papers that can still be read today and tell you what some otherwise insignificant farmer who founded it thousands of years before that was called.
Not that it matters, but if we're playing that game...
As I said, all this s=h=i=t is just baggage that they can fill up museums with, which nobody would ever visit if it weren't for elementary school teachers dragging their students through them on field trips.
I can trace my family back to a bunch of Swedish knights who came through southern Germany on their way to join the Second C=r=u=s=a=d=e in the 12th Century but then decided to just stay here and take over a castle that had been abandoned by a native German knight who also was on his way to the C=r=u=s=a=d=e himself, hehehe. So I am the descendant of some l=o=w=l=i=f=e squatters.
The castle existed till W=W=2 and my father's granny was the last child born there. The castle was turned into a m=i=l=i=t=a=r=y hospital during the w=a=r and was b=o=m=b=e=d and destroyed by the A=l=l=i=e=s.
And guess what, boring random strangers with TH-cam comments nobody cares about is the only thing I can do with that useless knowledge.
What is the point?
We all have to live our own lives in the present and make names for ourselves and people who cling too much to the past and pride over what their ancestors did, tend to not be very good at that.
If the ancient Chinese were so great at inventing stuff, then where did that talent go? Why do modern Chinese copy and steal so much from those u=n=c=u=l=t=u=r=e=d w=e=s=t=e=r=n b=a=r=b=a=r=i=a=n=s?
Excellent, that is history my man.
Interesting too!!!
@Just one more thing Yes, as I said, distorting "bad words" is the only way to avoid automatic censorship, once you are on TH-cam's black list.
That thumbnail is gold. 😂😂
Yeah, if anything it is like... WOW 5000 years... and this is as far as you got... in 5000 years? Not impressed. Not one bit.
Nobody tell the chinese that damascus is 11,000 years old
My Chinese wife literally says she is human and I am not, because.... neanderthals. She also says she is civilized, and I am a barbarian.
Now, lucky for me, my wife was looking for a little barbarian in her civilized life. 😉 and it is token of humor and endearment between us.
But, I have also come to realize that on a very basic level, it is exactly how she has been taught to view foreigners.
The Han have among the highest percent of Neanderthal DNA of anybody on the planet. They range up to 6%, while the rest of the world has around 3% or less. Current research is also investigating their relationship with the Denisovan people, who were there BEFORE the Han.
OMG I'm not telling my wife that, she would be crushed.
@@MikeStrom62 True! The Chinese today are extraordinarily weak on anthropology. I wonder if it's taught at all in China?
@@susangarcia6233 if it isn't in the gaokao, it isn't taught.
Non-Americans have to admit that America is the greatest nation in the world
Elon Musk is South African?
I had no idea South Africa was such an awesome country.
He is also Dutch and Canadian, I think. (Any billionaire can buy citizenship in another country.)
Winston/Matt, have you ever covered the Chinese habit of sitting on the edge of a seat? I see this all over here where Chinese people congregate, the edge of their butt is quite literally at the very front end of a chair with a large 3-5 inch gap between their back and the chair's back. This drives me insane especially in crowded restaurants making it very difficult to move around, even for waitstaff. It's especially annoying when I'm sitting properly and up against the table when someone behind me sits like like above taking up as much space as me yet they're half my size, their chair is banging against mine, and I have no space yield.
im a mainlander and i agree 100% with this
I highly doubt modern China has that much of a significant connection to the ancient dynasties of the past. They have as much connection to those dynasties as Italians do to the Roman empire.
Is that your rpm meter going nuts? Lol
The word savage fits into Chinese man macho somehow.
5000 years....and they still don’t. Know how to drive.
What have the Chinese accomplished nothing except doing s*** that we did back in the 60s and stealing our technology which they still can't get to work right and making shity copies of all of our stuff way to go China 5000 years and you're still crap
ethnically, culturally , religiously, philosophically, ancient Egyptians has nothing to do with the Arabic populations occupying that territory today.
8000 years of history, they have maybe done 3 things right in the last 200 years 🤔
I think every nation has some nonsense they believe and repeat. I US we think that we are all about freedom and that we are more free than other countries.
FYI guys, the longest continuous living culture is that of Indigenous Australians, which is estimated as being 50,000-80,000 years of culture.
And not all land was made at the same time. Some of the oldest land (continental crust) on Earth is in Western Australia, at 3.6 billion years old. The newest land is that which comes from volcanic mid ocean ridges or hot spots, such as the islands which make up the 'tail' of the islands of Hawaii.
I'LL REMEMBER YOOOOU.... for 5000 years!
Winston man . I love your videos. You have a pair of balls a size of basketball to talk about the truth and love in china
It you practice doing something wrong for 70 year, you get really good at doing it wrong!
Now can you imagine how bad you can have in 5000 years.
And very accepting of your behavior also.
Why?...Probably for a similar reason that North Korea thinks it's better than me.
They just had more years to screw-up.
Screw-ups guaranteed since there is little if any willingness to practice self-examination in order to learn from mistakes.
True. How did 5,000 years of Han philosophy not produce any empathy for non-blood family members?
PRC also likes to claim all overseas ethnic Chinese as their own, regardless of whether those people have different nationalities, speak different languages or practice different customs (some of which ironically are old Chinese customs that China doesn't even practice).
5000 years of counterfeiting
Australian aboriginals have been here for 60,000 years
Aboriginal Australians: "Am I a joke to you?"
The Chinese count the origin of their civilization essentially to when agriculture was developed in East Asia, and not even counting that Western Civ is 3,000 years old.
Well at least my country isn’t harvesting organs in concentration camps...or have banned Winnie the Pooh
they seem to add a few hundred years every year
I got China 🇨🇳 DNA ? ?
bye honey ! 🥁
I couldn't get "Destroy 2000 Years of Culture" by Atari Teenage Riot out of my head while watching this video.
I'm on time now for the third one I was just watching all the old and recent once.... Ever since its holiday I caught up.
Good convo. Winston made a really good analogy between the US and South Africa.
Corona virus outbreak.Airports in Australia on high alert.....
The Corona Virus? Does it cause your urine to smell and taste like Mexican beer?
@@blokeabouttown2490 Good one! :-) "Corona" means "crown" or "halo" in Spanish (and in late Latin, I believe). (A cognate in my native language Swedish is "krona".) The reason the virus is named "corona" is because, apparently, the infectious form of the virus particles take the shape of a crown, as can be seen under electron microscope.
Aboriginal Australian people have been around for literally 70,000 years.
I believe that the Human Race can only claim that much history and more. We gain as a civilization from testing ideas whether good or bad and adopting the best ideas that work.
china history is 2000 years old, egyp-nubia-mesopotamia history is 5000 years old.
Troy was founded 5,000 years ago.
Sometimes I like to think modern Chinese evolved from neanderthal DNA
I think they actually have less neanderthal than most.
They actually have among the highest percentage of Neanderthal DNA in the world. Get the book "50 GREAT MYTHS OF HUMAN EVOLUTION" for the citation and source of the genetic studies.
my friend was a neanderthal they are great people much better than Humans that's why they got wiped out they were too nice.
Things Gen Z will never understand:
1. Hanging out with neanderthals
2. Riding dinosaurs to school
3. Having to leave their house to rent movies/games
PROC should do less bragging and more reform. Bring home all the culture lost during the cultural revolution. Regain it's rightful place as the greatest country, maybe then winning the hearts and minds of the people.
It's all about hiding the corruption of their government and how second-rate their entire society is due to negligence. The PRC amps up national pride and anti-Western sentiment to keep their people blind to the fact that they're being used as sheep all over again.
I think this is a slippery slope question. While it’s not fair to claim that something that happened 5000 years ago is a result of you as an individual, it needs to hold its own in other situations. Such as: someone stating that you (as a person today) were responsible for slavery. Or that they (as a person) have a right to something because their ancestors were slaves. Now, I’m not condoning slavery in any way, I’m just showing the same correlation in a different situation.
Great work guys. Keep it up.
Agreed. Before a statement like "China has 5000 years of history" can be made, we need to "define China." And hopefully, that definition doesn't state that China = PRC (which only has 70 years)
The paintings in Lascaux cave in France are dated to be around 19 000 years old, is that mean that French history is that old? Of course not. Predynastic archeological findings in Egypt suggest timeline for about 9000 BC, but everybody know that ancient Egyptian History and civilisation started around 3500 BC. That is why true Chinese history is no older than 2800 with first true Chinese writings. Chinese would like to see their beginnings with Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors but fact is that this beginnings are only legends and mythical stories. I think some Chinese will attack my comment but for your information please check your history (true one) and you will find that first written recordings are dated around 841BC after Emperor Li of Chou was exiled. In period of 770 to 255 BC extensive writings are visible on bronze ware of Chou dynasty. Some may claim that number of oracle bones were found with some writings on them from the time of King Wu Ding of Shang but they do not represent China as advanced civilisation. This bones are dated for about 1250 BC and King Wu Ding is recognised as earliest figure but even if we will accept him as a representative of advanced Chinese civilisation we still missing 1800 years from this 5000 years of history.
I'm pretty sure most African nations have an even older history, poorly documented, but it still there to some degree. Then again there are cave drawings here and there in the world
I just received a brochure in the mail for some Chinese show called Shen Yun. It says right on the front 5000 years of civilization reborn! My husband and I just laughed. Our daughter-in-law is a Chinese National and believe me, her feelings toward her country are not pleasant. Thanks for the vid. Stay Awesome!
That particular troop is from the Taiwan Republic in which people from all over old China had manage to gather together some threads of the old culture and keep them alive.
This part of China actually is genuine culture.
Chris Chappelle on China Uncovered talks about this at length in one of his little news videos.
There are serious doubts about whether Shen Yun actually portrays authentic ancient Chinese dancing and other cultural aspects. It's a huge propaganda op by a crazy right-wing cult that sounds remarkably like some bible-thumping US-Conservative CIA implant.
@@Dowlphin
There's nothing wrong with having a few Bible around... but I don't recall having any good reason to thump one...
If Baki has taught me anything it's that 5000 years of history is nothing to scuff at
Bit worn-out topic for you, but sound reasoning; Although some nuances might be lost if too much focus is on attacking the easy marks.
11:49 Yep, China is younger than the USA in that their bullshit is less evolved and elaborate. The need for better hasn't arisen yet. And the USA are definitely in the old-age phase, since they are moving *back towards* that state, and there is surely more of that to come in the near future.
12:00 Well, if we compare countries in a better-than way based on cultural merits, it should be holistic. Unlike South Africa, the USA offload their pieceofcrappiness onto other countries, so to speak. A nation that allows their elected government to terrorize the world and sow murder, mayhem and misery because the spoils of war allow a more convenient lifestyle and thus remove feedback against their denial and add ease of elevating one's self-perception, ... that is quite the rotten place, deeply indoctrinated with government propaganda, but ultimately people do this to themselves.
The USA is like one of those people you mentioned recently that are totally awesome guys and easy to make friends with but then eventually you learn they're involved in some pretty shady business.
Smart are those who learn lessons so they can apply them generally, even smarter are those who can transfer them into universal principles that apply to any kind of situation. (An example from social psychology would be the ability to analyze and treat a nation-entity or other type of organisation like a person. - It's related to the profound connection between macrocosm and microcosm. - But to become better at seeing connections, the mind musn't be in a divisive inner state. Synthesis is a function of love. And love isn't a superficial clichée of sunshine and rainbows. It is something most solemn, for allegiance means that servants of fear will become your enemy. And since love and fear neutralize each other, it will involve sacrifice.)
13:50 Well, no better way to sound like an average Murk. 😉 But did you know there are communist projects in the USA? And they're not terrible at all. They're quite empowering. In fact, the more you pay attention, the more points you can see where it is at work. If communism is so bad, then I guess the USA have been infiltrated and poisoned by it. The enemy is among you! 😨 But go ahead and keep demonizing it and you will get karmic feedback. Because the lesson that the universe is trying to teach here is much bigger; not for young souls, so to speak.
As for the history thing again, you are focusing so much on the government propaganda claim that you might be neglecting the sociological view. As I mentioned before, China still has traits from their ancient history that couldn't be wiped out by the CCP's crude-superficial madness. To some degree they might even be aware of it, to some degree not, but if you let the CCP's messed up portrayal/use of the situation be the only target of examination, then their propaganda is actually blinding you, too, just through adversity instead of acceptance. Then some much bigger, much more powerful entity wins the propaganda battle.
I like how you think you actually know what you're talking about. 😂 You keep doing you, chappie
Better than 99% of the replies here mostly from people who unconditionally hate China and the wumaos who attack them back with their commie propaganda. Let's throw them all into the same cesspool to fight it out!
@roguenoir - Thank you for your feedback. It is too rare. (Or maybe it is just natural. ... But then so is me feeling it is too rare. 😄)
I did notice a change in general mood in the comment section with a change in the mood of the video content. The audience changes with the content. Back then when they couldn't be as critical of China as they'd wanted because they were still living there, the comment section was a generally nice place for intelligent and balanced discussion. But, in some insightful irony, now that they can speak their mind freely and catch up with all the negative points of critique, it has degraded a bit. One can see how easily the low energy activity invites bigots and follower-minds to voice their allegiance. And that is like a mass expression of the kind of 'friends' one should avoid - those who tell you what you want to hear and approve of your stuff unconditionally.
@@Dowlphin Idk, man. Your views are.... interesting every time I see you on here.
You guys aren’t doing a video on the corona virus outbreak ?
5000 years of history = 5000 years of tradition and culture. If you think any country can erase that in a few decades I have a bridge to sell you.
Compare that to Europe with Gauls, Romans, Christians and other long lasting evolutions and differences between languages, cultures and countries etc.
It is not, in reality, a claim of "better" but rather of "specific". Changing anything has to fight 5000 years of inertial resistance.
"We did this" - see no. 18 of the Tao te ching = a specific example of the 5000 years in practice, Mao notwithstanding.
Yes, I said this before, and to be fair, I guess this video footage might have been made long ago, so not exactly their latest state of understanding. (Although I am keeping my expectations low, heh.)
Dao De Jing #18 is actually a good lesson for the USA's current social madness of virtue signaling and ideological crusades that is so unlike for example the 'good old' Star Trek where the solution is portrayed without specific limelight onto it. Many people seem to not learn that lesson because it is not an ideological concept being spoken but just a mindset, a solution lived; a practical example of the desirable end state. No battle to be waged, no power gained in the process. (Power being what many are actually lusting for.)
Australian indigenous culture is often claimed to be the longest continuous culture in the world.
Yet, they, too, came from somewhere else.
@@susangarcia6233 what's your point? That's true but they've been in Australia for a long time, tens of thousands of years.
@@mathewtoll6780 The Han often speak as if they were somehow "omnipresent" in "our China." The fact is that the Han came from somewhere else. They are in fact an "immigrant country," too, though they don't seem to realize it.
Same with the Australian tribes.
@@susangarcia6233 ok - the same could be said of most if not all countries on earth.
@@mathewtoll6780 Exactly. All of these ultra racists, such as the Han Chinese and most blacks, need to realize that their own ancestors migrated, too. The often-used "here first" argument is absurd and incorrect for North America. The Indians were not even the first humans here! And they are by no means "native" Americans!
Technically western culture goes all the way back to the Greeks. By that logic we've got something like 5000 years of history as well.
Quite possibly the most ancient and advanced civilization can be found in Israel. For example, they had time travel technology in ancient times. If you talk to Israelis today, many will be able to tell you who stole their home two millennia ago. And they're still quite upset about it.
@@Dowlphin dude, did somebody hack your account?
That bouncing speedometer was driving me nuts 😂