Did we just build a 500bhp Diesel???? New Manifolds - A5 3.0 TDI PROJECT DARKSIDE DEV - PART 27
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ธ.ค. 2019
- Following on from the disappointment of Part 26 ( • Broken Big Turbo! - AU... ) back in October, we realised we needed to get our behinds into gear and sort the A5 before we give it away!
With the freshly repaired Big BIG turbo in hand Owen set about installing that along with the new modified manifolds (Listed on our site soon)
We managed to get onto the dyno where we exceeded our goal of 500bhp netting a healthy 507bhp and 650lbs of torque!
The next video will be some on board video's and if we make it to the track some performance figures!
Stop watching at 15:27 if Electric vehicles are not your thing!
Full current specs can be found here - drksi.de/AudiA5
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Seeing someone investing in Diesel? BIG LIKE!
Okay the tractor was a nice touch! Love the videos. It’s nice to listen to someone nerd out about vehicles that not many Americans are into
🤞😎Next A5 should be a walk in the park because sounds like you've already been to hell & back with this one so now have all the experience👍
Very interesting project and well explained, Looking forward to seeing the development work moving to a newer Audi A5, A6 or A7 3.0 TDI
It amazes me how far Diesel engines have come, if you think back to the first Diesel cars that they made its quite astonishing
I have watched a couple of videos and haven't commented much really, it is a real pleasure watching Ryan ..... in his built.
Only jealous people put negative comments. Those who matter don’t mind, and those who mind don’t matter!
Love what your doing and the way you show so many different aspects of your life, business, friends and family.
Awesome cars, info, knowledge, willingness to push everything and most of all, it’s bloody great watching each and every video! Thank you. 😁
We don't get many negative comments and just show how we all are, like it or not!
We made it here first! So, who has entered the competition? We can't wait to give it away to see your face when the torque hits!!!
If not enter here - drksi.de/win
I'm already in :)
Dream car for me from the best team Darkside!!!Entered a few times,wish me luck👍Love the car and the channel!!!
Sick of the sight of it I bet lol
Thanks for showing the dyno run
U boys smashed it out the park!! Shame about the gearbox....lets see what the Gen2 has in store for us!
It would be interesting to see what the performance cams would do. They should improve spool time on the large turbo. It would be interesting to see if they allow the smaller turbo to make more power since it would be working at a lower PR and may shift it around to a different airflow in the compressor map.
Reyt then, you're playing dirty. Secretely hi boosted turbo on that green little backyard monster driven by Ryan :))
Is his name Ryan?
I've been really looking forward to this particular episode, it was a bit of a letdown without any dyno run shots, or rolling footage. I hope you recorded some footage now and will release some more of the tuning steps with the giant turbo like you did early on in the process on that other guy's dyno with the original silver looks.
Can't wait for the new build with all the bits and gearbox capable of exploiting it.
This is the second video I've seen, and your presentation/people skills are night and day, kid..
Its all in jest, people take things too seriously.
Yeah. Great news. Fantastic👊💪👍
Would love to see what you could do with a 4pot diesel bmw engine e46 era ones ???
If you want to do it the right way, test and break it on your own cars like you guys do!
Hang on Ryan, where is the video of the 500hp diesel pull I’ve been waiting to hear
Need more Leon content Ryan 😜 Audi build has been an interesting one for sure.
Couple of video's still to come but you might be sad by the end...
It's absolutely no fun but turbo motors are subject to the exact same rules as naturally aspirated motors. If your motor makes 200hp NA, then it will make 400hp with 17.5 intercooled psi.
If you can port the heads, install new cams, build custom equal length headers and get 350hp NA, then you will have 700hp with 17.5 intercooled psi of boost. The 3 psi over 1 bar (14.7psi) is making up for the losses from timing changes and heat.
So, if you build equal length headers out of 2" schedule 40 pipe and separate the odd and even firing pulses, the back pressure will go way down while providing the same boost. Simply because the exit route is optimized and the pulses are equally spaced so it escapes much easier without smashing into each other causing constant back ups. Picture it as crowds of people being organized and funneled down hallways and they are timed to leave left right left right etc without banging into each other. Exhaust is the same, even more so through a turbo because the hallways are already overcrowded.
Some assumptions there, 2" headers are way too big, 1.5" maybe too big for a turbo motor. You have to consider packaging on this kind of thing too, what works on paper rarely fits!
@@DarksideDevelopments Unfortunately there aren't many options for schedule 40. 1.5 is something like 1.4 id and 2 is 1.8 id it's cast steel pipe that will never break. Great on big block turbo trucks.
1.25" OD will be fine I think
Ah you’ve read my comment on that video! Nice job.
I'm interested in that tractor.
I would like to buy a audi q5 3.0 tdi, what do you recomend me to check before, and how i can get the manuals and part list to repair it, how expensive could be an turbo upgrade?
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
What about a 3.0tdi tiptronic, is the gearbox more tolreant to torque? Does it work fine with 400hp?
They both handle fairly similar figures well
I see you are still running the factory airbox (with an upgraded intake pipe). Do you see hp gains when upgrading or modifying factory intake airboxes on TDI's? Like the RS6 airbox on the 3.0 BiTDI for example.
We tried with none and gains were minimal on the dyno but at speed bigger would help!
Sick burnout at the end 😁 don't be so hard on your colleague...youtube is hard at first 👌
Its all in jest, people take things too seriously. I love Matt really
@@DarksideDevelopments ok. Cheers!
George’s tractor was the best part of that video to be fair.
That is sad for the rest of our work but it is funny
Ryan P sounds odd and obviously asking for a friend 🙄 so you know what motor that bad boy has, or standard on a 24v battery
@@kylebudd5479 355 iirc but they have too much torque. 18v on stock was faster
So, what would you recommend to a SQ5 tdi 2016. To get closer to 550lf/lb
We have a turbo upgrade?
Which turbo is the one demonstrated in this video. Could you also link to your website. Many Thanks.
Its a 1 off!
Build a tdi powerhouse and put it into a mk3 mr2 would be awesome on track loads cheaper then a Elise
What was the limit of the stock exhaust manifolds? At what EGT did they break?
It's a time thing. Do then before Bobby sorts your turbo. Cheap insurance!
How much has it cost??? Fyi ive seen your website and it doesnt mention half the mods you have fitted to that A5, im curious about total cost to date to get it to 500+.
We don't sell the bits for 500. It would be too expensive
So you can switch exhaustmainfold without removing the engine?
Yes but not easily!
The exhaust from a Q7 has the cast ones ...bolts straight on to that car !
Are you sure? Q7 still has Pressed/welded manifold with this engine.
Darkside Developments check last Facebook picture on your account ...uploaded a pick there
@@cosmindiaconescu2960 Sorry I don't see it? Send PM please
Please can you share the part numbers?
@@RealGX We have the kit listed here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/3-0-tdi-v6-cast-manifold-conversion-kit.html
Definitely need to get your George an a5 electric car Ryan
Hello! I have a c 30 amg cdi you think you can do something with it?
Sorry, VAG and BMW only! Nice car though!
worth watching just for the dori drifto tractor reveal alone.
Lol
Do you think the gearbox from an audi SQ7 TDI would be better than the DL501 you have in your a5 right now?
Those are the ZF8 same as most late model cars. In future we will have 3.0 with that gearbox
Did you do the performance clutches and baskets in it?
Not yet, this is a hardware issue we hope to fix shortly!
would a manual gearbox with your uprated clutch and flywheel handle the power better?
Doubtful, the flywheels judder easily with lots of torque
Add an Inline fuel pump and the things will change for the better. I've added an 8bar inline fuel pump and had no low rail pressure dtc ever since and it pulls to 5200rpm without power loss.
That never works for us, especially with CP3 pump
@@ryanp6138 I have the CP4 unfortunately 😥
Aweeesomeeeee!!!!!
Does that engine have an inline fuel pump under the drivers floor next to the fuel filter? I'm just wondering if you could improvise with that.
We remove that, it's the tank pump that can't cope.
I guess they have removed the pump under the floor, since the CP3 has its own feed pump.
Hi Ryan, is the power still rising at 4800RPM? Could this hit a 6000+ redline with peak power over 5500? Or is EGT being an obstruction?
Fuel burn rater over 5000rpm is the issue
Hello, sorry but i speak little english, and I would like to know, I have 3.0 TDI B7 BKN and the manifold for me is not better in my exhaust, and I have only a 2262 in turbo, so If I put the manifold who has nothing inside, is good for me ?? I don’t lost in slow rpm ?
Thank you for your answer
It wont affect low RPM at all :)
@@DarksideDevelopments Hello, Thank you for answer, in fact, this manifold is restrictive ?! The best is the manifold with nothing inside ?
Thank you so munch 😀
Nothing inside is best as there is nothing to break off and kill your turbo!
Nothing inside is best as there is nothing to break off and kill your turbo!
@@DarksideDevelopments Ok thank you so munch for your time to me
Just subscribed to your channel. I want to know what paint/decal is on the A5, that red is sick. And I wanna get a tractor like that :)) Now I shall start watching the story of the A5 from the beginning. 🍿
Full Vinyl Wrap in 3M Satin Smouldering Red by Swallow Applications Ltd :)
Which turbo did you used? Still 2872 vrzk?
Yes 2872
Thanks mate know what is next
We gave the car away!
@@DarksideDevelopments 😧🙁
Probably a stupid question but thought I better ask the experts. Is there much difference in the 3.0tdi engines or is the block, head, injectors all relatively the same just the turbos etc which differs between the 204bhp and 300bhp ?? So many really nice quattros about but most of them are the lower powered versions and I imagine to get them 300+ would be a bit costly ie huge borgwarner lol cheers guys
The engines are very similar but the gearbox is usually the weaker one on the 204hp, the ZF8 is the best one. 300+ with a tune, up to 400 with a bigger turbo.
Is this an s tronic gearbox? How does it handle this power? What upgrades?
Yes, just new stock clutch and flywheel and gearbox tune
@@DarksideDevelopments thanks for the reply, brilliant channel btw, always look out for the vids - you guys know your stuff!!
LOVING the tractor action.
Fear no deer
Is that the same engine for vw Amarok?
Similar but not the same
Do 3.0TDI manifolds fit 2.5TDI V6 they do look the same ?
I doubt it. 2.7, yes. 2.5, doubtful.
@@haukurthorsmarason5267 Yeah i know 2.7TDI is the same as 3.0TDI just smaller displacement.
i think its the new gearing to the pump, needs to spin faster
I have a question regarding the giveaway. Can it be driven on the UK reg if the winner is from another country or will it need to be registered again in that country?
You will need to check your local rules. I imagine it will need registering in your country.
I'm 21 just about to buy one of these cars get so much for the money, looking to spend 1-1.5k on performance improvements on it, after a remap what else is worth doing?
Maintenance. Do all Filters and Oils first.
Nice numbers! Did you think about bi-tdi modifications for 2.0 or 3.0? get good torque on low RPM's and nice power on high
It can be complex to get right!
@@DarksideDevelopments How about a bigger fixed turbo over the stock VNT turbo ?
@@dieselmats it would not spool!
@@ryanp6138 I meant stock turbo and bigger turbo as a compound.
What wheels are on the a5? Any body know
BBS CH-R
2 questions:
Is there gonna be a giveaway on the JD?
What's the next project, a Model3?
Keep up de awesome work! Builds and videos!
You mean give away the Turbo from it? I doubt it!
Next project is already here! Definitely not electric!
@@DarksideDevelopments nice one, eff that leccy crap.
The tractor is for keeps
FEAR THE DEER !
🔥🔥🔥 Amazing
Stock internals?
Srock injectors?
Just big turbo and manifolds and you can make 507hp?
Stock internals, upgraded injectors and CP3 pump! Got a spec list here, scroll to the bottom and we have all the different power levels we achieved and what we used to get them - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/audi-a5-b8-3-0-tdi-cr240-ccwa/
Look into TVS Engineering software that will sort out your clutch slipping. Have the software on my and the wife car and all I can say is it’s fantastic. You should sell this software
We do our own and software won't fix on this gearbox! We have the maximum clutch pressure possible.
In theory .. putting the gearbox issue aside. How much power do you think you could get out of this engine?
maybe 550? not sure though, we'd have to get another one in and push it hard
What's the tractor dyno'd at?
1.2kw!
Good Drift 🤣🤣
Thanks to biodiesel being Carbon neutral, that car can run, legally, forever
Alrite guys, I messaged through facebook regarding the 6 speed tiptronic these cars also came with (its a 6hp28) but I didn't get a reply. These are naturally stronger and I wondered if you offered maps for the them?
When did you message? We always reply. We don't tune the ZF6, maybe in the future.
Are you guys still running standard intercooler pipes on this ?
Yes
Ryan P I have one of your Intercoolers, my boost pipe is sucking shut at 2.9bar boost should I just get a set of new oem pipes ?
@@MTBrUS not sure how that would happen?
@@MTBrUS turbo inlet pipe you mean? How is your air filter? Is it clean, and has that maybe been sucked in too?
Now all i need is the parts numbers for lamps,bumper and a hood to do a facelift :/
Email and we will send
@@ryanp6138 I sure will
I'm considering to buy the AC C6 facelift 3 liter TDI Quattro with the CDYA engine code. It's already remapped in Germany by the well known MTM guys.
But i never experienced a four wheel drive car. I always drove Merc CDI's. 2.2 diesels.
Give these cars a punch on your back when you floor it when you have 285hp?
They go OK!
Love your work guys! Might be a bit biased since I drive a 2008 a5 3.0TDI at stage 2 (DPF delete, EGR Off and Tune) running 317hp/673Nm . I don't know if the info I got was accurate, but I've been told the manual Gearbox can hold up to 600hp and something like 900Nm. Seems to me you guys went with the wrong gearbox setup :) Maybe a manual next time? Keep up the good work mates. Love from Belgium
The manual can take 420 bhp 900 Nm, the box they should have went for is the ZF 6HP28 1000Nm+
@@RealGX we don't tune the Audi ZF yet so rule that out for now
how much boost ?
2.9bar
what wheels are those?
20"x10.5" ET25 BBS CH-R
275/30R20 Nankang AS-2+ XL Tyres
How much money did it cost
pumping into the A5 up to 500bhp ? 😁
I’m just asking coz I own a A6 C7 BiTDI
and I want to invest making it around
500bhp with 1000NM if it is possible 😍
A fair bit! We are still working on the best turbo for the Bi Turbo engine.
@@DarksideDevelopments
Good luck thank you
very much for replying.
Much appreciated 😎👍
hot side of the turbo is massive what size is that mate?
At this power it was a custom GTC3786VRK
Kit for sale
is the gtd2872 good for 500bhp on the a5 3.0tdi?
Not quite, it will easily see 400bhp+ but for 500bhp you would need something bigger and not an easy bolt on
@@DarksideDevelopments why is the gtd2872 better than the gtb2572 then?
@@TheEdicola ball bearing and different vnt so spool is better than smaller turbo's
@@ryanp6138 thanks mate,the gtd cost a lot too...
Do you guys sell these mods as a kit?
We can send you links to all the products on our website. Please send us an email with the vehicle details - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
Curious how long this lasts
Gearbox was at it's limit with torque, this one was then swapped back to the 2566 and dropped to 400bhp and 600lbs/ft for the competition
Please measure a 100-200kmh with Dragy or P-Gear (near 0.05% slope)
9.2s ;)
Ryan P with ~500hp?
Thats neck and neck with a Lamborghini Gallardo SE, which is 562hp rated, and faster than a porche 996TT, so sounds in the right ballpark for a modified turbo car to me.
@@NoRbEger yes, not perfect runs
I'm well up for the tractor giveaway , that things a beast!! 😂
It is! Helmets at the ready!
What will be the actual spec of the car when the winner receives it?
400hp & 600lbs. video soon
would love to see all thease bits on a manual a5 just so you could put a nasty clutch in it and see what the engines really capable of or even better a manual a6 just for the lolz.
Is there an uprated clutch for these? I don't think so. A manual will start slipping above 900Nm. The gearbox to have is the ZF6HP28.
@@RealGX sachs performance do a couple
I have a manual A4 CCWA. I am going to try . I have the injectors and the pump kit but no big turbo yet . Now i!m trying to learn to remap the EDC17.
Manual would be slower
@@ryanp6138 im not convinced it would be. If you start in 2nd, you save time on a gear shift and can use the full power and 4x4 even with 500bhp assuming the clutch held that. With auto, you have to go through 1st.
Little upset they don't sell these in the US. Instead I have a S5 V8.
Man a diesel is something else if it has 200hp it feels like 300 because of the torque really comfortable on long rides and they get incredible mpg’s
Why not use manual gearbox?
Would be slower
But you wouldn't be restricted in power/torque like you are with the dsg s-tronic 'box though?
Oo, I see a thumbs down from a Prius driver lol
Lads keep the good work up the boss is a great lad don't let the problems get to you you best deisal tuners in uk 500 bhp mate not even audi could do what you do so come on stay strong just keep doing what you do best tune those audi cars lads
You must be the long lost, lad mate kid
100 200kmh time ⌚
Or 62 124 mph guys 😁
It's in the spec
62-124mph (100-200kph) - 9.27
Thanks
Is that a 102mm Garrett turbo?🤤🤤🤤🤤
nearly!
@@DarksideDevelopments im starting to like diesels more and more, the power they deliver at lower rpms is insane, nice build man, how does it keep up with reliability?
@@IRONxMAN1989 Our cars rarely breakdown, they are super reliable
Those stock intake tubes probably isn’t helping
It has our TIP pipe and the stock airbox had no restriction.
I have A BMW 335i Msport E90 N55 standard... And I'm considering selling for one of these. Comments?
Turbina GTX 2560?????
gtd2872
where is? you have instagram?
What's your Time from 60 to 120mph / 100-200kmh??? Over 500bhp on Dyno, okay... But never on the Street.
Maybe 10s and reason will be car is too heavy:)
Its fast, figures are on a video somewhere, it did drive better with 420hp and a smaller turbo but we never quote dyno only figures
When the draw for the Audi A5
16th December
Does this guy actually know what he is talking about? Seems a bit divvy to me
Not a clue mate, what do you know about?
too much talking
Shut up nerd