I am not a hockey player myself, but I want to improve my skating and eventually try hockey. It's very nice to watch how smooth you guys can skate. Greetings from Poland :) I love this coaching channel
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MAKE THESE VIDEOS.! With the price of hockey schools and coaches through the roof kids can save money for better equipment and ice fees while learning skills online. I have been playing hockey for 30 years and still can learn how to develop my game through videos like this. Its good people like you guys who unselfishly give your knowledge to keep the great game of hockey alive.
Thanks! When practicing I recommend pushing your limits as much as you can, reach out as far as you can and really work those edges! Try to get as much power as you can but also don't neglect the quick crossovers. Sometimes 2 fast crossovers will gain you as much speed as one really powerful one, it all depends on the game situation so that's why we showed both.
The way you demonstrate it makes it seem so much easier. C cuts then cross is so much simpler than what my dad tried to teach me. Thank you for videos like these im excited to get back to playing once this virus deal is over
Thanks Stephen. There is a good video about positioning called "The Canadians: A defensive positional breakdown". New Zealand and Hong Kong, the hotbeds of hockey!
Dang, that backwards cross over tutorial might'ven been the best advice I've seen on TH-cam thus far. I think I might actually get some progress going next rec. ses.
This is one of the best broken down, simple to understand back crossover. I like how you guys are so casual, keep it simple and strong on a few pointers!
a really fantastic video: you guys have broken down the basic movements really well, and I especially like that you've mentioned the quick crossovers and how we can apply them in a game situation.
i started watching these video's last night because i had ice skating for sport today and i used your techniques because i wanted to do more from just being able to move on the ice. i'm now able to skate, stop and turn with more confidence thanks to these videos thank you...
I was a complete beginner to Ice Hockey and your Tutorials have turned me from never skating to now playing in a League! Thanks so much! Ice Hockey is AWESOME!
I never played hockey but I went skating every Friday/Saturday for social skate when I was a freshmen. I couldn’t believe how easy I took to skating. I loved it so much! I started staying late to practice. I found a pair of used vapors in my size at an expensive goodwill in my city. Got them pro sharpened at my local pro shop and molded. I couldn’t afford all the gear for hockey so I ate up the few days I could skate. I still shock myself in how fast I understood it. Fun stuff. Just practice. Practice, practice, practice. It’s as easy as that. For a dude from Louisiana all I did was PRACTICE. it’s fun af because (and this is weird for older skaters) just practice.
I've been playing for about 6 months. you taught me how to shoot and basically do all I know to. thank you for your channel. your helping so many kids just like me learn and succeed as a first year. your a great person and thank you so much for doing what you do.
I’m in the process of learning skating again and I’ve always had problems with crossovers and this video REALLY made it clear for me :) thank u for the upload! I’ll be gladly to watch this over and over again until I can master the crossovers
I'm good with my crossovers with my strong side (right leg) but absolutely awful with my weak side. Same thing for stopping. I can stop with my strong side... weak side is TOUGH. I seriously don't get it. It's all mental with me. My mind is getting in my way 100%.
Jeremy, thanks to you and Ken for an easy-to-understand video. Unlike other TH-cam tutorials, you keep your videos short and focus on the basics. (Which is also a prop to your video filming and editing techniques. :) I'm a "never-ever" hockey dad and my daughter is playing squirts this year, and I'm trying to improve my own skating so I can keep up with her. Thanks to your help, I got the basic backwards crossover down yesterday.
Shooting and stickhandling are the two things that you can work on a lot at home. You need a spot to shoot and stickhandle so sort that out first. Once you have an area set up try to dedicate at least 30 minutes a day to practicing and improving. Make yourself a schedule or checklist to stick to and you will notice improvements very quickly
yep your tutorials are great! the example of quick feet in a game, as well as the backward crossover transition to forward crossovers i use everytime! works great keeping up the speed.
I've been a hockey fan for a really long time, and this past year I decided to give actually playing a try. I'm a freshman in college, so I decided to take a beginner hockey class they offered at my school. While it made me fall in love with playing the sport and helped me be able to ice skate ok and feel comfortable in gear and everything, I didn't learn much. I really love playing though, so I decided to buy gear this summer and sign up for a local rookie league in the fall. I've been practicing a lot of these videos on my rollerblades, and I went to my first stick and puck the other day, and WOW. Literally these videos are WAY more helpful then the class I took, so thank you 🙏
That's amazing Mackenzie! So glad we could help you out, keep on practicing and playing and you'll improve quickly. Great idea to use your rollerblades as well. We did a rollerblading course on The Pond to show things you can practice on the street that will help on the ice. We also have a few free videos here on TH-cam that will help as well.
I love the way these guys break this down into manageable capabilities. While I can't yet do a backwards crossover, I can still skate backwards in a circle and work on the push to the inside. When I've got that, then I can easily see adding the crossover. I can really see the progression from component capabilities to the final skill and imagine how I'm going to get where I want to be. Thanks!
I'm mostly a beginner except what I've learned from youtube ...a lot from you... and just trying to have even a tiny chance against my 8 year old son in hockey and thought backwards crossovers would help out but be super hard to do. However, as always, you make the hard stuff seem easy! Put together backwards and crossing over... so simple but I never thought of it like that! 2 hours on the synthetic ice in my garage after the little man went to sleep and I've got it!! You rock! One way better than tbe other, but can't wait to see the look on my little man's face when I bust out the backwards crossovers at puck shoot tomorrow! 😂
Yes you are right about the c-cuts, the legs should be doing all the work, stay low, don't bob up and down (another common mistake) and dont zig-zag. In this video though we are focusing on the backwards crossovers, we just showed the c-cuts quickly as a base for performing the backwards crossovers. Also it's not "wrong" it's just not the most effecient method of the c-cut
Thanks for making such clear, easy to understand videos! I'm a total noob, I don't even play hockey, I'm just trying to become a better skater, and your videos have helped a TON.
Thank you for making this so clear! I had a hockey lesson yesterday where we had to try doing backwards crossovers, and the instructor really didn't explain the mechanism. I'm looking forward to showing off my skills next week!
I really like that you incorporate a real application of the technique. I've moved from beginner to intermediate from watching your videos. Although my skating and puck handling and somewhat my shooting has improved, my positioning on the ice during games is one of my weaknesses. Can you do a video on awareness? Help us identify what to do in certain situations. (By the way I'm a New Zealander playing Hockey in Hong Kong)
Great video Jeremy, I really liked your emphasis on getting your 1st leg under the other. My coach would always stress that crossing your feet over 2 inches doesn't provide enough thrust, and that you need to really extend your legs. I'm really enjoying your on-ice videos, keep them up!
Love the videos ! Could you guys make more videos for beginners ? Maybe some basic exercises to achieve muscle memory for backwards skating and crossovers...
It's been 40 years since I've laced up so I'm doing a learn to skate program the Florida Panthers offer. But your videos are great for practicing and picking up some skills/techniques.
I want to you by next year!! I just started taking ice skating lessons. Next goal is learning to play hockey and then playing in a women's league!! Wish me luck :)
I decided to write that this video was excellent at the half way point but then it got even better. Would write more but then it might sound like I have a bit of a man crush. Keep on posting matey, love them all.
Hey I have a quick question. I've just gotten into Backwards cross overs and I'm getting better at them. However, I've noticed that on various videos some people recommend lifting their outside leg (like your video) while others never have it leaving the ice and they kind of just swivel from a C cut into in a crossover. Right now I'm doing the swivel method and I'm wondering if this is detrimental to performance or if it's more a matter of preference. Great video by the way, really helpful!
We asked the fans of our Facebook page what they wanted to learn and this was the biggest request. If you want to join us on Facebook just click the link in the video description. If you have any questions about backwards crossovers just ask!
Thanks for the video Coach. I have a tough time with the backwards crossovers. I always feel like I'm losing my balance and falling forward. If anyone has any tips please let me know.
This is a throw back not only for coach but all of us who started and came across this video. Back when we were all learning how the heck skating backwards worked.
Teach me.. Got any personal tips to add? Dominant foot right, I can only do an inside edge t-stop. Max speed, 11mph 😅 can forward cross over on both weak and strong sides, tight turn to the left is OK, to the right I struggle where to put my weight, can c-cut backwards about 12 feet before I feel I need to turn around, lol.
@@romahnae I’m no expert but here we go:p 1. Ensure skates fit great. Minimal toe box space, no space around the ankle, laces tight all the way up (tight up front, snug across top of foot, tight as can be going up the ankle. 2. Time on ice. Every time you skate you’ll get better 3. Strengthen ankles, hamstrings, quads If you arent gifted in these areas hit the weights 4. Good solid knee bend. Try to have a 90 degree angle at the knee or close to it anytime youre striding/ working 5. Chest up eyes up. Look to where youre going. Looking down will eventually pull your whole upper body down and you’re throwing off your center of gravity. So deep knee bend, good wide hockey stance, and chest up. 6, make sure those skates are sharp 7. Relax the ankles. You want to always have an edge on the ice. Relax your ankles and trust your weight. Keep that center or gravity. When youre crossing over is when you really want to flex that foot down as you follow through each stride. Like if you were kicking your leg straight behind you and using your toes to point at something. Going backwards comes down to having a good center of gravity and working those edges with those C cuts. C cuts dont necessarily have to be big and the better you get the quick and smaller they become. For backwards cross overs… think of them as cross unders. Youre pushing out with one foot while placing the other foot where the other just was. Look up videos on cross unders. The biggest thing is… time. You are going to have moments where you realize you’re starting to figure it out.. and with confidence comes a more aggressive and fun time when youre out there skating hard. Dont tell yourself you cant get something because all these things start to click eventually. It takes a lot of time. Never stop watching videos. Most of all dont quit bro.
@@romahnae also totally get what youre talking about with the weak side. I have that same issue. That will come down to you having discipline and taking the time at practice to work on that weak side.
Im not Howtohockey, but it sounds like you are describing the difference between a cross over and a cross under. Cross over you literally lift your outside skate over the inside. During a cross under, your outside skate remains in contact with the ice and your inside leg kicks under and behind the outside leg.
I find it much easier to teach the backwards crossover starting with an outside foot c push only, progressing to an outside foot c cut/then crossing over the inside foot. The outside foot does not leave the ice. After they have those 2 steps mastered, then incorporate the inside foot reach and pull. The outside foot does not leave the ice, it does a continuous s motion, while the inside foot gets picked up, reaches and pulls. Need to stress that knees need to be bent and it is the body is in more of a chair sitting position. Been teaching it that way for 30 plus years and it works.
I am not a hockey player myself, but I want to improve my skating and eventually try hockey. It's very nice to watch how smooth you guys can skate. Greetings from Poland :) I love this coaching channel
Well, you have the least polish name ever!
You will improve to become nhl player
Badass name
It’s a great sport
I jak ?
I like the dramatic head turn at 5:38 like he just noticed the camera filming.
+Walter Babst me too!
Haha I don't know why that was so funny!
Walter Babst brings I literally clicked on the moment like 10 times lol 😂
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MAKE THESE VIDEOS.! With the price of hockey schools and coaches through the roof kids can save money for better equipment and ice fees while learning skills online. I have been playing hockey for 30 years and still can learn how to develop my game through videos like this.
Its good people like you guys who unselfishly give your knowledge to keep the great game of hockey alive.
Thanks! When practicing I recommend pushing your limits as much as you can, reach out as far as you can and really work those edges! Try to get as much power as you can but also don't neglect the quick crossovers. Sometimes 2 fast crossovers will gain you as much speed as one really powerful one, it all depends on the game situation so that's why we showed both.
The way you demonstrate it makes it seem so much easier. C cuts then cross is so much simpler than what my dad tried to teach me. Thank you for videos like these im excited to get back to playing once this virus deal is over
Nah, I wouldn't want to bore you guys ;) Glad you are getting lots of help from the videos, it's great to be able to help other hockey players
Thanks Stephen. There is a good video about positioning called "The Canadians: A defensive positional breakdown". New Zealand and Hong Kong, the hotbeds of hockey!
Dang, that backwards cross over tutorial might'ven been the best advice I've seen on TH-cam thus far.
I think I might actually get some progress going next rec. ses.
Thanks a lot, guys. I'm only on my fifth month of skating, but your videos have really helped me out. Keep up the good work!
I love you man. Im having good days since yesturday. God bless the world
Very usefull tips! not only for hockey. I'm skating with rollerblades and is very usefull!
Rollerblades? O.o
This is one of the best broken down, simple to understand back crossover. I like how you guys are so casual, keep it simple and strong on a few pointers!
a really fantastic video: you guys have broken down the basic movements really well, and I especially like that you've mentioned the quick crossovers and how we can apply them in a game situation.
i started watching these video's last night because i had ice skating for sport today and i used your techniques because i wanted to do more from just being able to move on the ice. i'm now able to skate, stop and turn with more confidence thanks to these videos thank you...
Thanks! We try to make them very easy to understand so anyone can learn to play whether you play in a league or just for fun during the winter.
Ive started plying hockey late... But I have been playing for a year now and these how to hockey videos greatly help improve. Thx Howtohockey!
I was a complete beginner to Ice Hockey and your Tutorials have turned me from never skating to now playing in a League! Thanks so much! Ice Hockey is AWESOME!
I never played hockey but I went skating every Friday/Saturday for social skate when I was a freshmen. I couldn’t believe how easy I took to skating. I loved it so much! I started staying late to practice. I found a pair of used vapors in my size at an expensive goodwill in my city. Got them pro sharpened at my local pro shop and molded. I couldn’t afford all the gear for hockey so I ate up the few days I could skate. I still shock myself in how fast I understood it. Fun stuff. Just practice. Practice, practice, practice. It’s as easy as that. For a dude from Louisiana all I did was PRACTICE. it’s fun af because (and this is weird for older skaters) just practice.
I've been playing for about 6 months. you taught me how to shoot and basically do all I know to. thank you for your channel. your helping so many kids just like me learn and succeed as a first year. your a great person and thank you so much for doing what you do.
I appreciated the application to a game situation as well, thank you for the very clear breakdown of skating backwards.
I’m in the process of learning skating again and I’ve always had problems with crossovers and this video REALLY made it clear for me :) thank u for the upload! I’ll be gladly to watch this over and over again until I can master the crossovers
I'm good with my crossovers with my strong side (right leg) but absolutely awful with my weak side. Same thing for stopping. I can stop with my strong side... weak side is TOUGH. I seriously don't get it. It's all mental with me. My mind is getting in my way 100%.
Best tutorial so far, thank you.
Jeremy, thanks to you and Ken for an easy-to-understand video. Unlike other TH-cam tutorials, you keep your videos short and focus on the basics. (Which is also a prop to your video filming and editing techniques. :)
I'm a "never-ever" hockey dad and my daughter is playing squirts this year, and I'm trying to improve my own skating so I can keep up with her. Thanks to your help, I got the basic backwards crossover down yesterday.
These guys are great! For some reason, the way they explain the backwards crossover really sticks. Bravo!
Shooting and stickhandling are the two things that you can work on a lot at home. You need a spot to shoot and stickhandle so sort that out first. Once you have an area set up try to dedicate at least 30 minutes a day to practicing and improving. Make yourself a schedule or checklist to stick to and you will notice improvements very quickly
AWESOME!
My 7 year old kid just started hockey, so I'm trying to learn together with him. This channel is helping a lot!
yep your tutorials are great! the example of quick feet in a game, as well as the backward crossover transition to forward crossovers i use everytime! works great keeping up the speed.
Also useful to me as a rink hockey player...^^ thanks a lots ! Greetings from France !
Man this is super helpful, I’ve mastered aspects of going forwards, now it’s the concept of backward crossovers and implementing defensive tactics
I've been a hockey fan for a really long time, and this past year I decided to give actually playing a try. I'm a freshman in college, so I decided to take a beginner hockey class they offered at my school. While it made me fall in love with playing the sport and helped me be able to ice skate ok and feel comfortable in gear and everything, I didn't learn much. I really love playing though, so I decided to buy gear this summer and sign up for a local rookie league in the fall. I've been practicing a lot of these videos on my rollerblades, and I went to my first stick and puck the other day, and WOW. Literally these videos are WAY more helpful then the class I took, so thank you 🙏
That's amazing Mackenzie! So glad we could help you out, keep on practicing and playing and you'll improve quickly. Great idea to use your rollerblades as well. We did a rollerblading course on The Pond to show things you can practice on the street that will help on the ice. We also have a few free videos here on TH-cam that will help as well.
I love the way these guys break this down into manageable capabilities. While I can't yet do a backwards crossover, I can still skate backwards in a circle and work on the push to the inside. When I've got that, then I can easily see adding the crossover. I can really see the progression from component capabilities to the final skill and imagine how I'm going to get where I want to be. Thanks!
you guys are awesome! i am praticing this move tonight
I'm mostly a beginner except what I've learned from youtube ...a lot from you... and just trying to have even a tiny chance against my 8 year old son in hockey and thought backwards crossovers would help out but be super hard to do. However, as always, you make the hard stuff seem easy! Put together backwards and crossing over... so simple but I never thought of it like that! 2 hours on the synthetic ice in my garage after the little man went to sleep and I've got it!! You rock! One way better than tbe other, but can't wait to see the look on my little man's face when I bust out the backwards crossovers at puck shoot tomorrow! 😂
Hey man, thank you for the videos. I've only played hockey for a year now, but you have helped me progress pretty quickly.
Yes you are right about the c-cuts, the legs should be doing all the work, stay low, don't bob up and down (another common mistake) and dont zig-zag. In this video though we are focusing on the backwards crossovers, we just showed the c-cuts quickly as a base for performing the backwards crossovers.
Also it's not "wrong" it's just not the most effecient method of the c-cut
this is also a pretty good video for roller derby.
YES! I spent a week watching this video and your other video 😁 now I can
I always turn to your advise because it's easy to follow along and not aggressive
Thanks for making such clear, easy to understand videos! I'm a total noob, I don't even play hockey, I'm just trying to become a better skater, and your videos have helped a TON.
Thank you for making this so clear! I had a hockey lesson yesterday where we had to try doing backwards crossovers, and the instructor really didn't explain the mechanism. I'm looking forward to showing off my skills next week!
I really like that you incorporate a real application of the technique. I've moved from beginner to intermediate from watching your videos. Although my skating and puck handling and somewhat my shooting has improved, my positioning on the ice during games is one of my weaknesses. Can you do a video on awareness? Help us identify what to do in certain situations. (By the way I'm a New Zealander playing Hockey in Hong Kong)
Just yesterday I was thinking about learning these coming back from the rink, and bam, you upload the video the same day :D
Thanks!
Great video Jeremy, I really liked your emphasis on getting your 1st leg under the other. My coach would always stress that crossing your feet over 2 inches doesn't provide enough thrust, and that you need to really extend your legs. I'm really enjoying your on-ice videos, keep them up!
Big thank you for this! This explanation was extremely useful to me
Thanks for the slow motion!! and all the explanations.
Thank you. You are a great teacher.
Thanks for the tips bro! Greeting from Argentina! 😉
Great, easy to understand video. Thank you so much!
This was extremely helpful. Thank you
great job!
step by step & keeping it as simple as possible
Love the videos ! Could you guys make more videos for beginners ? Maybe some basic exercises to achieve muscle memory for backwards skating and crossovers...
Best demo ive seen so far on youtube.
I don't even play ice hockey but I find this video very helpful for my inline skating.
Great video! you make it look so easy! lol
Separating out the inside and outside leg movements is very helpful
Very good tutorial
It's been 40 years since I've laced up so I'm doing a learn to skate program the Florida Panthers offer. But your videos are great for practicing and picking up some skills/techniques.
I want to you by next year!!
I just started taking ice skating lessons. Next goal is learning to play hockey and then playing in a women's league!! Wish me luck :)
i play roller hockey but i have to say these turorials have helped me alot!
jeremy can u film one of your games and put it up on youtube?? and thanks for all the great videos, theyve helped me get alot better
i always half learned this. im gonna try this next time i play. prolly make me feel more comfortable
Great video guys, thank you!
Thanks to this video I just managed to do backwards crossovers, Thanks guys!
This helps me a lot!!
No one cares.
This is so freaking helpful thank you so much
Keep up with the vids. You guys are the best !
Keep posting the great content
Great Video Jeremy
i will try this bc i always wanted to ice freestyle. and i have to practise a lot to come this far xD
I have no about hockey as not a sport here but this looks very skilful so for that alone I am impressed.
Very good video ;) I like that you show the ony steps. PS: I'm from germany ;)
Great instruction!
Thanks a lot ;) really helped ;)
I decided to write that this video was excellent at the half way point but then it got even better. Would write more but then it might sound like I have a bit of a man crush. Keep on posting matey, love them all.
Uh oh! The C cut! Scott Grover would not approve! Hahaha great vid bud.
Great vid, good teaching
Good video on crossovers.
You make it look so easy! I can't do backwards crossovers at all
great video thanks for sharing
Great tips.
Hey I have a quick question. I've just gotten into Backwards cross overs and I'm getting better at them. However, I've noticed that on various videos some people recommend lifting their outside leg (like your video) while others never have it leaving the ice and they kind of just swivel from a C cut into in a crossover. Right now I'm doing the swivel method and I'm wondering if this is detrimental to performance or if it's more a matter of preference. Great video by the way, really helpful!
Those are some small pants there Jeremy haha. Great video though, thanks a lot!
Bruh 8 years ago nice
@@grizzles8476 ikr😂
@@nanawilliams3520 yeah long time
@@nanawilliams3520 you ever think about how we have comment that we made when we were kids... that are years old.
@@grizzles8476 yes
We asked the fans of our Facebook page what they wanted to learn and this was the biggest request. If you want to join us on Facebook just click the link in the video description.
If you have any questions about backwards crossovers just ask!
Which RS are you using? Great videos!!!!!
You should make a vid on how to perfect your wrist shot!
excellent try tomorrow thanks
Thanks for the video Coach. I have a tough time with the backwards crossovers. I always feel like I'm losing my balance and falling forward. If anyone has any tips please let me know.
This is a throw back not only for coach but all of us who started and came across this video. Back when we were all learning how the heck skating backwards worked.
Teach me..
Got any personal tips to add?
Dominant foot right, I can only do an inside edge t-stop. Max speed, 11mph 😅 can forward cross over on both weak and strong sides, tight turn to the left is OK, to the right I struggle where to put my weight, can c-cut backwards about 12 feet before I feel I need to turn around, lol.
@@romahnae I’m no expert but here we go:p
1. Ensure skates fit great.
Minimal toe box space, no space around the ankle, laces tight all the way up (tight up front, snug across top of foot, tight as can be going up the ankle.
2. Time on ice. Every time you skate you’ll get better
3. Strengthen ankles, hamstrings, quads
If you arent gifted in these areas hit the weights
4. Good solid knee bend. Try to have a 90 degree angle at the knee or close to it anytime youre striding/ working
5. Chest up eyes up. Look to where youre going. Looking down will eventually pull your whole upper body down and you’re throwing off your center of gravity. So deep knee bend, good wide hockey stance, and chest up.
6, make sure those skates are sharp
7. Relax the ankles. You want to always have an edge on the ice. Relax your ankles and trust your weight. Keep that center or gravity. When youre crossing over is when you really want to flex that foot down as you follow through each stride. Like if you were kicking your leg straight behind you and using your toes to point at something.
Going backwards comes down to having a good center of gravity and working those edges with those C cuts. C cuts dont necessarily have to be big and the better you get the quick and smaller they become. For backwards cross overs… think of them as cross unders. Youre pushing out with one foot while placing the other foot where the other just was. Look up videos on cross unders.
The biggest thing is… time. You are going to have moments where you realize you’re starting to figure it out.. and with confidence comes a more aggressive and fun time when youre out there skating hard. Dont tell yourself you cant get something because all these things start to click eventually. It takes a lot of time. Never stop watching videos. Most of all dont quit bro.
@@romahnae also totally get what youre talking about with the weak side. I have that same issue. That will come down to you having discipline and taking the time at practice to work on that weak side.
5:37 the head turn
I have only been skating for two years I've teached my how to skate but u haved helped so much
May your English teacher save you from using the letter "U" instead of the word.
THANKS MAN!!!
Totally get why Dangle thinks this guy’s a genius. Keep up the great content, you just got yourself a new sub!
this really helps
Can you do more videos on transitioning from backwards to forwards?
Im not Howtohockey, but it sounds like you are describing the difference between a cross over and a cross under. Cross over you literally lift your outside skate over the inside. During a cross under, your outside skate remains in contact with the ice and your inside leg kicks under and behind the outside leg.
I like how your so specific
jeremy i am a really good defence man but I am bad at like deking and sort of bad at shooting do you have any tips on helping it on land
Thank you sooo much
So cool thanks man
I find it much easier to teach the backwards crossover starting with an outside foot c push only, progressing to an outside foot c cut/then crossing over the inside foot. The outside foot does not leave the ice. After they have those 2 steps mastered, then incorporate the inside foot reach and pull. The outside foot does not leave the ice, it does a continuous s motion, while the inside foot gets picked up, reaches and pulls. Need to stress that knees need to be bent and it is the body is in more of a chair sitting position. Been teaching it that way for 30 plus years and it works.