ULTIMATE Guide to Water Temple Tricks | Ocarina of Time Randomizer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- Become an EXPERT with this Water Temple Masterclass! Learn all the tricks and secrets of this dungeon of liquid dispair. Perfect for Ocarina of Time randomizer runs.
This almost broke me. After doing all these tricks and recording them, I almost didn't want to edit this video.
Trick Timestamps
0:00 Brief Explanation of what Tricks Are
0:20 Water Temple Entry without Iron Boots using Hookshot
1:38 Water Temple Torch Longshot
1:53 Water Temple Cracked Wall with Hover Boots
2:16 Water Temple Cracked Wall with No Additional Items
2:52 Water Temple North Basement with Hover Boots
3:11 Water Temple North Basement Ledge with Precise Jump
3:53 Water Temple Boss Key Jump Dive
4:17 Water Temple MQ North Basement GS without Small Key
4:53 Water Temple Central Pillar GS with Farore's Wind (Thumbnail)
5:12 Water Temple Central Pillar GS with Iron Boots
5:41 Water Temple MQ Central Pillar with Fire Arrows
6:44 Water Temple Central Bow Target without Longshot or Hoverboots
7:24 Water Temple Falling Platform Room GS with Hookshot
8:03 Water Temple Falling Platform Room GS with Boomerang
8:25 Water Temple MQ Reach Dark Link without Longshot
9:26 Water Temple River GS without Iron Boots
11:37 Water Temple Dragon Statue Jump Dive
12:09 Water Temple Dragon Statue Switch from Above the Water as Adult or Child
15:03 Water Temple Morpha without Hookshot
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Does the untargeted sidehop not work if you buffer the jump instead of mashing? Or letting go of the target during the sidehop and retargeting once you hit the spot and have a new angle?
I'm thinking some sort of setup with hookshot extension probably helps making the long shot skull setup a bit less tedious (the elevator room). Maybe isg. Or the same setup as gerudo bridge: some amount of shield scoots and extension.
The mashing is what I find to be the most beginner way of getting the buffer. It is consistent across versions, considering pausing speed is different between N64, Wii virtual console, Buzhawk, Project 64, Ship, etc. which makes the timing of when to start pressing A different. While unpausing, it is possible to begin holding A too early, which I found weird. And I always try to come up with something that will be consistent no matter what version anybody might be playing on.
Also, yeah, Targeting the wall to get a new angle is the only reason the untargeted side-hop makes the trick work.
Lastly, yeah, hookshot extension definitely makes the elevator room skull a lot easier to kill and collect. I scripted this as I figured out each trick, and even through manipulating my location by the 1/100th of a unit to get as close to the river GS as possible, only then did I figure out that the river skull is not possible with longshot alone unless you use hookshot extension. I didn't think to also mention that hookshot extension would also be useful for the elevator room skull. Good catch. Only reason to avoid hookshot extension is it being against some sort of rule.
glad i got this video recommended!! i've been wanting to learn tricks for rando, so i'll def be checking out the rest of your channel, cool stuff
I've been learning all the tricks as I go along. Here's to the journey ahead.
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I still much prefer full logic when I randomize, but learning extremely specific tricks for very specific situations is always nice...just in case.
By full logic, do you mean glitchless logic with no tricks enabled? In my experience, playing that way results in a lot of wasted time. If you do a trick to check something that's not logically supposed to be checked, that particular check has a higher chance of leading to nothing useful if the trick you used is not enabled. It seems like it would be exciting or overpowered to do the tricks when the tricks are off and get items early, but more often the tricks just lead to junk.
I'm not saying to turn the tricks on that you know. Only the ones you're comfortable with possibly being mandatory.
I think I would mention that the FW central pillar thing can be done as child as well, to get it with Boomerang. The actual hardest thing about the dragon statue dives is child with silver scale. Adult normally just clips under the open gate, but child will get stopped by it, so you need a perfect dive to actually get under with only the silver. Boomerang's a bit easier because it's kind of possible to get into the water while it's flying. Slingshot and silver scale gave me a lot of problems as far as proving it's actually possible to perform. I only did it the once and moved on with my life. Sorry to anybody who finds themselves actually needing to pull it off lol. It might be the hardest thing on that trick list.
Dragon Statue Switch from Above as Child with Boomerang is hard, yes, but I don't find it any easier whether you get in the water before or after the boomerang hits the switch. I do share your sentiment: sorry to anybody who finds themselves actually needing to do it. Although, the circumstances that make it necessary are very specific. Dungeon shuffle has to be on, Adult uses iron boots, ocarina, and lullaby to lower the level but doesn't have arrows or hookshot, so child needs to come in and use boomerang or slingshot to get something important.
@@KTSpeedruns I think it was specifically with silver scale where I appreciated boomerang's head start? Allowed me to get closer maybe? But it was a long time ago now.
because you asked so nicely heres a comment too
I appreciate that. :)
If you were doing glitches to get hover boots early you wouldn't really need to do any of this
This is for Randomizer. You never really know what else you'll have when you gain access to the Water Temple. Hover boots could have been found in Kokiri Forest, or maybe in Goron City.
If you haven't tried Randomizer, I would highly recommend it.