Yep, we had a slip of the tongue - SOHC are 2-valve per cylinder heads, not 4. Here's the playlist for all the cars featured in this video: th-cam.com/play/PLGV8X9X8baVgSNZC95AGJBuPEXf2vLeZK.html
You also don't know shiz about Ford FE oiling systems. The high nickle wasn't introduced until late 67 with improved casting tech as was the the full juice block for 1968.
I don’t understand how somebody could love 1 and not the other 2 I would say I’m a Ford guy but I love Chevy and Mopar too. Too many cool cars to hate on just because they come out of a different factory.
Being a Chevy guy growing up in the 1960s and 1970's I love all the great muscle cars of that era. It could be a Ford,Chevy,Dodge, Pontiac, Olds or a Buick. Each manufacturer made certain models that we would all love to have. I am also pretty happy about todays technology in muscle cars
Like your list, but what about the AMC ones like the AMX, SC/Rambler, and the Rebel Machines? Ford guy herte that loves some of the cars from all of them, but the odder the better ;)
Being a chevy man,,,Drooling for a 70 boss 302. Got beat by one in the mid 70’s on the street with my 69 L78 Chevelle .Had a absolute f ing blast back then..lmao 🇺🇸🇺🇸💪☠️
@Jeremy Thompson :OMG, mine too! Has to be a '70 though. I have a 69 Dart Swinger 340 4spd. I had a '71 cuda' 340 shaker 4spd, I also had , when I was 19 in '73, a '70 440-6 SuperBee!
Always great stuff, Kevin! I remember, long ago, in high school when I got my '68 Cougar and became interested in doing a bit of modding, my Dad gave me a book about modding (a '69 mustang Boss was on the cover) and my take-away was "do one thing at a time, measure the difference - never do two or three at a time because you will never have a true metric as to which was most effective." I always love these trips down memory lane and, again, thanks, Kevin! :)
Yes, and they had MAJOR problems, starting with the timing chain, I believe it was 6' long and WHEN, not IF it stretched, reaked havoc on tuning, and engine failures! They were repairing, tuning CONSTANTLY! There is a book out called "The Cammer", read it, you won't believe the BS ford claimed on its reliability, so I've been told, by ford guy's that is!
@@glennfalzo3718 The Cammers were strictly race engines ..and you've been told wrong Glenn ..because the Cammer engine had three cam drive options. A massive twin chain, ..I mean real twin chains with 4 pin links rather than 3 pin links like modern "double roller" chains. A heavy belt drive optio, like what's used on blower drives. They also had a solid interlocking steel gear option that connected the cams to the crank, used in NHRA Top Fuel engines in the late 1960's were making over 8,000 hp. and they plenty reliable. You wanna talk about MAJOR problems ..look at the staggering unreliability history of GM performance production engines. GM has posted more TSB's about Corvette and Camaro engine problems since 1982 than any other manufacture. Not only service related issues, they had complete engine recalls as recent as the 2019 C7 Corvettes ..when they were forced to offer a buy back option that allowed buyers to turn the entire car because of sever oil pressure issues and engine failures.
My first muscle car was a 68 Charger RT. Bought it used and had a lot of street races against Fords and Chevy's, with some GTO's mixed in. Back then we all hated each others brands, but as I got older I started to appreciate all the American muscle cars. I'm still a Mopar nut, but I feel so fortunate to have grown up in the original muscle car era. Of course my wife says I never grew up, mostly when I hammer my new Hemi Charger!!
@@clintwalker6389 good luck. It's a big job to restore any muscle car. Wish I had a crystal ball back then, I would have kept mine. But as the saying goes, hindsight is 20/20.
Kudos for mentioning the 9". It's not as glamorous as some of the other offerings, but it's definitely a lasting legacy that always can hold it's own against its competitors.
I was always a Ford fan in the beginning, then I went to Chevy which was the biggest mistake of my life! So many warranty repairs on new cars. Went back to Ford and , wow, I have never been disappointed again.
I'm going to spent most of my weekend ahead watching the videos mentioned in this presentation. learning more about Mopar Muscle, it's the best medicine for avoiding "Covid-19". (Hopefully!!)
Awesome video! Most of my family were Ford people. But when my Grandfather returned from WWII. He became an Oldsmobile man. From the mid 50s to 60s Oldsmobile made the best engines.
I'm a Mopuppy die-hard Fan but I absolutely respect and love all Muscle cars From the big 3 another great Video ty Kevin! And by the way where is our Restoration Muscle car of the week?
289 k code engine best small block ever built i had one in a 65 fastback and it would eat 396 chevys all day trac loc burnouts till the tires popped and friday night street racing drunk and stoned we finally rolled it best time of my life
I was about to comment on the 4 valve/cyl SOHC but I see y'all got that covered. I'd like to add something to this list of what makes Ford great. I can sum it up in 1 word, Coyote. This engine is a marvel. 2018 version has 12:1 compression and 460 HP, all from 307 C. I. Forged rotating assembly that is good for 1000 HP with forced induction. I know of one that was making 650 WHP with just bolt ons and E85.
Another informative and entertaining clip, thanks Kevin! A couple of little-known anecdotes I read from period automotive magazine articles back in the day: There was a Ford Engine Plant strike during this period. Hi-performance Ford engines were hard to come by (pro racers only), perhaps one reason there were no 427 Mustangs ever built (though they were advertised). Many street-going "427" Cobras were actually milder-mannered T-Bird 428's. Rumor had it even a few 390's were sneaked in, when that supply dried up. Early versions of the Ford "427" were actually 425 c.i., as per bore and stroke calculation. Ford called them 427's, so they were "bigger" than the 426 Chrysler Max Wedge of the day. I'm not sure if later variations such as the High-Riser, SOHC or Tunnel-Port were any different. Any Ford FE engine guru's out there know?-
The DOHC 427 which was used in late 69-72 had 4 valves per cylinder. Candies & Hugh's Couger, The Blue Max, Shirley Moldowney's rail and other great racers proved every weekend that the Ford 427 was a force to be reckoned with.
I'll explain how I see Ford during the musclecar era with an analogy. In my high school we had a weight-lifting club...the top tier was 300 lbs. There were some kids that came close, but were never able to break into the "300 Club" as they called it. Ford was that kid that couldn't break into that club. They came close. The 428 CJ was probably their best effort, and it could hit high 13's. But the Hemis, 440's, LS6 Chevelles and Buick Stage 1's could still eat it alive out on the streets. And the 428 had a penchant for throwing rods
I think the only mistake Ford made was not offering more options on the showroom cars engine wise. They had the equipment to match. The first high performance FEs were the solid lifter cam 352s and 390s with the machined heart chambered D0 heads. If those had stayed around while the bigger cube motors got the 427 stuff, would’ve been great.
It doesn't matter what your favorite brand is, the majority of us are car guys first and foremost and have a healthy respect for all brands. I'm a ford guy so I obviously like the cars in this video but there some badass mopar and gm products I would be proud to own as well.
Im a ford guy..all the way.. but the mustang scene been done too much.. Fairlanes, galaxies, torinos,falcons, is what i like to see..better The ford gt is my dream car..and by affiliation. Detomasso panthera and mangusta are very nice ones . I have a 67 fairlane gt..would not trade it for any other brand.
Hey 413x398. I am restoring a 63 galaxie 500 convertable 427 duel quad low riser 4 speed car. It has the t10 borg warner 4 speed. Looking for good top loader to put in it. Want to get rid of one that you have? Thanks
I knew a guy down the street whose wife's cousin who was a carrot farmer had one of two factory Boss 429 Torinos that beat everything on the street for 20 years until a silo fell over on it. It's still under there today. Honest. I swear. My memory is impeccable.
@@markmundwiller5842 Right. My post was sarcasm aimed at all the guys in seemingly every Comments section that "remember" some extra bitchin' car back in the day that their neighbor or friend or relative had, regardless of it being incredibly rare or non-existent. Hence my "impeccable" memory. 😎
I love all cars above their brand, but I admit that my heart gravitates towards Chevy and Mercedes-Benz (when it comes to European brands)... I'll never diss a nice-looking Ford.
I was a witness to and participant in the original musclecar era (class of 69). By all measures, GM dominated the field. Four divisions, Body by Fisher quality, cutting edge styling, endless options, and pitch perfect marketing, kept GM on top. Mopar was a strong second I would say and generated less fanfare but earned a lot of quiet respect for their very serious powertrains. Ford was always kind of a dark horse. Apart from the Shelby cars, Fords didn't seem to garner much attention and were usually looked upon as prey. That is until the Cobra Jet engines came out, which seemed to instantly reverse Ford's street credibility. I myself was a GM guy until the summer of 70 when I fell in love with the Boss 302 and then, a few months later, the Boss 351. I would say that part of what attracted me was just the fun of being a bit of a contrarian and underdog in a land of GM and Mopar Giants. I still love the Boss cars and respect Fords of that era but I think it had to be a bit of an acquired taste.
daniel moran maybe, but the day GM and Mopar were bailed out by the American people Ford won. How did they win? The curvy body styles introduced by Ford in the 80’s were a direct attempt to compete with foreign automakers. GM in particular failed to compete . They thought that fancy sticker packages and image were enough. It wasn’t. To illustrate the beginnings of the end for GM, in the late 80’s , a 5.7 Iroc could literally cost twice as much as an lx5.0 that would show it its taillights repeatedly. Chevy lost all street prestige, and that on top of lackluster FWD offerings were the final gasps for them....
@@ro307805 My frame of reference was strictly the original musclecar era circa 1964-1974 and my personal experience with it. Ford severely curtailed their performance lineup for 72 by killing all their big block performance models and by 74 Ford had exited the performance market altogether. At least GM kept the big block performance intermediates alive through 74. Pontiac even came out with one of the era's better engines in the SD-455 for 73-74 and kept the Trans Am alive well beyond that. In that respect, Ford failed their loyal customers for something like 8 years. I give Ford all due credit, however, for basically reigniting the musclecar wars in the early 80s with the return of actual performance engineered Mustangs. The 80s merit a completely different discussion. I think the Buick GN crowd would have a few things to say there.
@@clevlandblock What about the 69 Mercury Cougar, How would you say that compared against GM and Mopars offerings at the time? I have just bought a 351 69 Cougar as a project as they look like a killer car. I wasn't around in that area but it's interesting to hear the knowledge from people who lived through it. Thanks.
@@XxSCaaRyFiEnDxX My parents bought a new 70 XR7 Cougar as a second car when I was 19. When dad and I when in to order it at the Lincoln Mercury dealer in Naperville, my plan was to try and get a 428. Just as we were about to enter the dealership near the service bay, there was a blue 69 Cougar 428 CJ (might have been a convertible) with the hood up. The owner was standing there looking perplexed. I asked him how he liked the 428. He started to complain about it as I recall, saying that the gas mileage sucked and that plug changes were impossible. He said "you're better off with the 351". Dad knew then and there what my secret plan was and gave me a look like "we're not going to get THAT motor, buddy". So we sit down with the salesman to order the car and dad clearly states that the car is to be daily driven by my mom. So as soon as I mentioned the 428CJ option, even the salesman discouraged me. We ordered the XR7 package with automatic, Traction-Loc, no AC, dark ivy green with dark green vinyl roof and saddle or ginger leather interior. The car would have come standard with a 351 2 barrel Windsor but I started bugging the salesman about the new 351 Cleveland mill. He got a twinkle in his eye and highly recommended that option. It was only about $30 extra over the Windsor and came with the 4 barrel carb and dual exhaust. The old man grudgingly went along with it. So I knew we were getting a bit of a sleeper with Boss 302 type heads. Several weeks later the car arrived at the dealer, the paper work was cut, and dad let me drive it home. It was sitting all alone in the service area, backed into a stall when I first saw her. A real beauty. I can still hear the sound of those duals when I fired it up. Big diameter pipes with a cross over. Kind of a metallic, King Kong gargling in a cave, sound. I always made sure she got premium and I gave it a very careful, loving break-in. The only fly in the ointment was the stock 3.00 to 1 gear. Also, we had some warranty issues with the stock bias-ply Uniroyals. The only mods I did were a 3.91 axle (later changed to a 3.50), a Ford chrome low restriction air cleaner, Hush Thrush turbo mufflers, a Ford performance parts dual point distributor conversion kit, and a rejetting of the carb. I only had access to the car on weekends when I came home from college. I was careful to put Sunoco 260 in it before cruising out and looking for street races. The mill responded well to several degrees advance over the factory setting. I think I was putting around 12 degrees BTDC on it. The overall combination was rather successful as long as I avoided anything much over 400 cubes. I kept a diary of all my races with that car and have numerous stories there. The FMX trans was outstanding and I always shifted it manually. In drive, at WOT, it would shift out at 5000. The Cleveland was rated at 5400 so that's where I shifted. A few hundred revs beyond that and I would get valve float. My biggest win was nudging out a new 70 Z28 (he was closing on me beyond 100 mph so I shut it down). I eventually bought the car from mom. The motor died in 1984 and rust had gotten through the floorboards by then. I sold her in 1992 to a gentleman who wanted the motor to restore a Mach 1. That Cougar was probably the most memorable car I've owned and brother, you should see the list. The Cougar took me through the peak of the musclecar madness of the early seventies. My friends were crazy about it and so was I.
@@clevlandblock Wow, what an awesome history! Sounds like you had a lot of fun with the car :D Shame I wasn't around during that area to really see it. Shame that you didn't get a hold of the 428. But it sounds like a blast, mines got the Windsor 351, factory 4 barrel with the FMX. She's stripped at the moment but am looking forward to giving her a restore, not a Concours restore just a refresh. But am greatly looking forward to it! I'd like to get your opinion on how the 69 or 70 Cougars compare to the GM and Mopar competition at the time, as no one really talks about the Cougar when comparing Ford against GM & Mopar. I feel like the Cougar was overshadowed by the Mustang. Cheers!
428's do not have forged bottom ends. Crank and pistons are cast. "Boss" used in the 60's was similar to "really neat"; adapted by Ford as pop slang. Sorta like the Pontiac "Judge". Not named after anybody Shinoda knew.
Check on the specs of the 428 CJ/SCJ engines. Those were beast meant for racing and not the same inside as the Thunderjet 428 that went into "normal" production cars.
@@BloodRaven1969 No such thing as a 428 Thunderjet. Did you watch the video? The 428 CJ was an option on "normal" production cars for three years. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Sorry, I miss typed. It is the 428 Thunderbird Special. Not Thunderjet, that was the 429 base engine. As to regular production, yep, but the CJ/SCJ was a muscle option and was, indeed, meant for racing. Not like a basic Country Squire Wagon. So that part still holds true.
@@BloodRaven1969 Cobra Jets were fairly sedate and easy to tune when daily driving them around. Iron intake, 390 cam, non-adjustable valvetrain. Not a race engine in stock form. The 427 Medium Riser and the Bosses would be closer to being "race" designs, detuned for production street use.
@@413x398 The CJ was sitll Hotter then the 428 T-Bird offering, and could be had from the factory in a few forms. For the race note... RE: See - 1969 Mustang 428 SCJ Drag Pack NHRA results.
SOON: 10 things that make Dodge Muscle Cars the favorite of so many fans. By the author of 10 things that make Chevrolet Muscle Cars the favorite of so many fans. Hot Wheels approved.
Mopar as I am, wouldn't mind a '69 Boss Mustang or Camaro etc., etc., the best from different worlds! How about a Top 10 Engines, that should've been produced but never was, Chrysler's Ball Stud Hemi and DOHC Hemi and others.... Keep up the phenomenal work troops....oh btw, more old school 1/4 mile warriors and Nascar! Please! 😉
Holman Moody prepped 427 tunnel port in a 68 Torino Talledega could have easily made this list.Also 427 tunnel port with dominantor intake that's the engine that won LeMans!
@@413x398 You're right actually no Talledega in 68.David Pearson did actually win 16 races in 68 with Holman Moody in his 427 fastback Torino winning the Nascar championship.The tunnel port is my favorite Ford engine.
Thanks for taking time to put this video together - I'd rather hear the phrase "Ford V8" than "Corona Virus" anyday!! PLEASE can we have a feature on that stunning '70 Sublime Challenger that I keep seeing in the background - it looks to good to miss!
I know one thing, there's people out there who are just nothin but Ford and for that reason I was a little contrary to the brand It seemed to run in the familys kind of like farmers and their tractors, red vs. green but I digress you also had the generals command and the good guys in the white hats aka Dodge boys personally the roadrunner had my heart, untill being stung by a bee that belonged to my older brother who preferred owning a Ford instead
Don't mind Ford and Mopar but I have to limit myself. Don't have the brains, time and money to keep up with more cars and trucks than GM - and I don't bother with Cadillacs and Oldsmobiles either. I haven't learned everything there is to learn about my chevies and pontiacs either.
Unibodys and poor engines( a few were good...boss engines..351 4 bolts. I fell in love with the mustang though...i feel it may have the nicest lines of an American car to this day.
I was a Ford fan for years and bought a 1970 Boss 302 just after I graduated from high school in 1972. Ford really dropped the ball as far as spare parts goes. It was difficult to get parts from Ford. Also Ford built waaayyy too many performance cars with a Cruise-O-Matic and non-locking 3.00:1 or 3.25 rear ends. Nowhere near enough 4 speeds with 3.91 or higher limited slip rear ends.
Yep, we had a slip of the tongue - SOHC are 2-valve per cylinder heads, not 4. Here's the playlist for all the cars featured in this video: th-cam.com/play/PLGV8X9X8baVgSNZC95AGJBuPEXf2vLeZK.html
You also don't know shiz about Ford FE oiling systems. The high nickle wasn't introduced until late 67 with improved casting tech as was the the full juice block for 1968.
I don’t understand how somebody could love 1 and not the other 2 I would say I’m a Ford guy but I love Chevy and Mopar too. Too many cool cars to hate on just because they come out of a different factory.
I'll one up you and the AMC muscle cars as well, though I'm a rock solid Ford fan I like the all.
Agreed. I have no brand loyalty. Love em all.
BloodRaven1969 true there cool too
I agree.
I'm a Mopar guy, but totally agree with you. That was a special era.
I love all musclecars. They are all special in one way or another.
I'm not a huge Ford fan but finding any of those in my driveway with the title in my name and keys in it wouldn't hurt my feelings.
Being a Chevy guy growing up in the 1960s and 1970's I love all the great muscle cars of that era. It could be a Ford,Chevy,Dodge, Pontiac, Olds or a Buick. Each manufacturer made certain models that we would all love to have. I am also pretty happy about todays technology in muscle cars
Like your list, but what about the AMC ones like the AMX, SC/Rambler, and the Rebel Machines?
Ford guy herte that loves some of the cars from all of them, but the odder the better ;)
@@BloodRaven1969 i loved the 70 Javelin Mark Donahue . Those 390's were nice.
AMC? "E" for effort.
Being a chevy man,,,Drooling for a 70 boss 302. Got beat by one in the mid 70’s on the street with my 69 L78 Chevelle .Had a absolute f ing blast back then..lmao 🇺🇸🇺🇸💪☠️
I'm a Mopar Guy, however THE only ford I would own is a 70' Boss302, 4spd, shaker, rear window louvers, the works!
Yup .. not a Ford guy but give me a Boss 302 as well.
@Jeremy Thompson :OMG, mine too! Has to be a '70 though. I have a 69 Dart Swinger 340 4spd. I had a '71 cuda' 340 shaker 4spd, I also had , when I was 19 in '73, a '70 440-6 SuperBee!
Going Ford is the Going Thing!!
Words to live by Ford fans.
Always great stuff, Kevin!
I remember, long ago, in high school when I got my '68 Cougar and became interested in doing a bit of modding, my Dad gave me a book about modding (a '69 mustang Boss was on the cover) and my take-away was "do one thing at a time, measure the difference - never do two or three at a time because you will never have a true metric as to which was most effective."
I always love these trips down memory lane and, again, thanks, Kevin! :)
Short lived but , how about an honorable mention of the 406?
Wasn't that basically a truck motor?
Or the 410 marauder 👍👍
Top Muscle Car of the Week video ever made. Ford Racing, unparalleled.....
Hello David how are you doing today
427 SOHC engines did not have 4 valves per cylinder. Only 2.
Right! Slip of the tongue. Thanks for the comment!
Yes, and they had MAJOR problems, starting with the timing chain, I believe it was 6' long and WHEN, not IF it stretched, reaked havoc on tuning, and engine failures! They were repairing, tuning CONSTANTLY! There is a book out called "The Cammer", read it, you won't believe the BS ford claimed on its reliability, so I've been told, by ford guy's that is!
@@glennfalzo3718 The Cammers were strictly race engines ..and you've been told wrong Glenn ..because the Cammer engine had three cam drive options. A massive twin chain, ..I mean real twin chains with 4 pin links rather than 3 pin links like modern "double roller" chains. A heavy belt drive optio, like what's used on blower drives. They also had a solid interlocking steel gear option that connected the cams to the crank, used in NHRA Top Fuel engines in the late 1960's were making over 8,000 hp. and they plenty reliable.
You wanna talk about MAJOR problems ..look at the staggering unreliability history of GM performance production engines. GM has posted more TSB's about Corvette and Camaro engine problems since 1982 than any other manufacture. Not only service related issues, they had complete engine recalls as recent as the 2019 C7 Corvettes ..when they were forced to offer a buy back option that allowed buyers to turn the entire car because of sever oil pressure issues and engine failures.
Yeah, hard to operate 4 valves with SOHC set up
Love me some 427 FE.
Nice puppy dog
My 69 MACH 1 that is sporting a 71 Boss 351 Cleveland with a five speed overdrive. A fun combination that Ford never Produced..
My first muscle car was a 68 Charger RT. Bought it used and had a lot of street races against Fords and Chevy's, with some GTO's mixed in. Back then we all hated each others brands, but as I got older I started to appreciate all the American muscle cars. I'm still a Mopar nut, but I feel so fortunate to have grown up in the original muscle car era. Of course my wife says I never grew up, mostly when I hammer my new Hemi Charger!!
77thesnake Trying to get a 68 charger roadworthy now
@@clintwalker6389 good luck. It's a big job to restore any muscle car. Wish I had a crystal ball back then, I would have kept mine. But as the saying goes, hindsight is 20/20.
Holy crap MUSTANG FUN HERE LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!🇺🇸❤🇺🇸. I absolutely ❤ Ford Mustang's I ❤ them. Bless U Ford Mustang & Ford 🙏🏼.
Kudos for mentioning the 9". It's not as glamorous as some of the other offerings, but it's definitely a lasting legacy that always can hold it's own against its competitors.
Shelby and Ford got together in the "early" '60's and the S.O.H.C. is a 2 valve head.
I was always a Ford fan in the beginning, then I went to Chevy which was the biggest mistake of my life! So many warranty repairs on new cars. Went back to Ford and , wow, I have never been disappointed again.
James McCullough
Welcome home prodigal son!!! 😂 LOL
Ford #☝🏼
Being a FORD guy I knew this all along raised in a FORD garage 👍👍
That blue and gold 69 mach 1 is favorite mustang I've found. 🤘🏻
I had a 69 mach1 428 cj
I did too. Love the blue and gold
I remember when all these cars were brand new haha.
So was I.
I'm going to spent most of my weekend ahead watching the videos mentioned in this presentation. learning more about Mopar Muscle, it's the best medicine for avoiding "Covid-19". (Hopefully!!)
God is the best medicine,but He gives us richly all things to enjoy,such as muscle cars!Jesus is the remedy for Covid-19!
Always loved the Ford's and the Ford's never let me down. Great video!
wrecked my 72 torino 302. still cruising around in my 67 galaxie fastback 390, air conditioning
When it comes to 💪muscle cars, I'm typically a Mopar GUY , BUT these Ford rigs are pretty freakin' NICE!! 👍
Awesome video! Most of my family were Ford people. But when my Grandfather returned from WWII. He became an Oldsmobile man. From the mid 50s to 60s Oldsmobile made the best engines.
I'm a Mopuppy die-hard Fan but I absolutely respect and love all Muscle cars From the big 3 another great Video ty Kevin! And by the way where is our Restoration Muscle car of the week?
My late teens were spent drooling over these beuties!
289 k code engine best small block ever built i had one in a 65 fastback and it would eat 396 chevys all day trac loc burnouts till the tires popped and friday night street racing drunk and stoned we finally rolled it best time of my life
I feel fortunate to have lived through my twenties also!
THE LEGENDARY R CODE 427! BESS BUCKLE UP!
Just fixed a webber induced 289 67 Shelby GT350 Blue with white stripes, immaculate condition, awesome car no doubt
I don’t think the Cammer used four valves per cyclinder, just saying. Amazing engine for the day, certainly.
You’re correct. Two valves only.
Anybody working on a time machine, I wanna go back.
I was about to comment on the 4 valve/cyl SOHC but I see y'all got that covered. I'd like to add something to this list of what makes Ford great. I can sum it up in 1 word, Coyote. This engine is a marvel. 2018 version has 12:1 compression and 460 HP, all from 307 C. I. Forged rotating assembly that is good for 1000 HP with forced induction. I know of one that was making 650 WHP with just bolt ons and E85.
I thought the Boss name came from an expression that was popular with younger people of the time. “That’s boss!” 🤷🏼♂️
You are correct, that is what Larry Shinoda stated in a magazine interview of the day. It had nothing to do with Knudsen.
1969 that’s what I thought. Thanks for confirming that. 👍🏻
Another informative and entertaining clip, thanks Kevin!
A couple of little-known anecdotes I read from period automotive magazine articles back in the day:
There was a Ford Engine Plant strike during this period. Hi-performance Ford engines were hard to come by (pro racers only), perhaps one reason there were no 427 Mustangs ever built (though they were advertised). Many street-going "427" Cobras were actually milder-mannered T-Bird 428's. Rumor had it even a few 390's were sneaked in, when that supply dried up.
Early versions of the Ford "427" were actually 425 c.i., as per bore and stroke calculation. Ford called them 427's, so they were "bigger" than the 426 Chrysler Max Wedge of the day. I'm not sure if later variations such as the High-Riser, SOHC or Tunnel-Port were any different.
Any Ford FE engine guru's out there know?-
The DOHC 427 which was used in late 69-72 had 4 valves per cylinder. Candies & Hugh's Couger, The Blue Max, Shirley Moldowney's rail and other great racers proved every weekend that the Ford 427 was a force to be reckoned with.
FORD BABY!!🇺🇸
69/70 Boss 429, Period
Thanks for sharing these moments. Great video as usual 🔝
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Take care and stay safe 🇦🇹👍
Some VERY RARE Ford Muscle here too!!
In my opinion the 1969-70 boss 429 mustangs are the baddest of them all!
I'll explain how I see Ford during the musclecar era with an analogy. In my high school we had a weight-lifting club...the top tier was 300 lbs. There were some kids that came close, but were never able to break into the "300 Club" as they called it. Ford was that kid that couldn't break into that club. They came close. The 428 CJ was probably their best effort, and it could hit high 13's. But the Hemis, 440's, LS6 Chevelles and Buick Stage 1's could still eat it alive out on the streets. And the 428 had a penchant for throwing rods
oh HELLS YES !!!!!
went thru a lot of Fe ford stuff in the early 70`s .. drove a 406 6 pac 4 speed 64 galixie to high school in 73 ..
I think a brief mention of the Flathead V-8, Thunderbird and Cougar, even in passing, would make this video even better than it is.
I think the only mistake Ford made was not offering more options on the showroom cars engine wise. They had the equipment to match. The first high performance FEs were the solid lifter cam 352s and 390s with the machined heart chambered D0 heads. If those had stayed around while the bigger cube motors got the 427 stuff, would’ve been great.
Cool segment
Some very Sharp Ford Muscle here!!
It doesn't matter what your favorite brand is, the majority of us are car guys first and foremost and have a healthy respect for all brands. I'm a ford guy so I obviously like the cars in this video but there some badass mopar and gm products I would be proud to own as well.
Nice video, Kevin! Right up my alley.
3:42 Don't forget the Thunderjet as well!
Not a Ford guy, but these are all great cars!
Im a ford guy..all the way.. but the mustang scene been done too much..
Fairlanes, galaxies, torinos,falcons, is what i like to see..better
The ford gt is my dream car..and by affiliation. Detomasso panthera and mangusta are very nice ones .
I have a 67 fairlane gt..would not trade it for any other brand.
Hey 413x398. I am restoring a 63 galaxie 500 convertable 427 duel quad low riser 4 speed car. It has the t10 borg warner 4 speed. Looking for good top loader to put in it. Want to get rid of one that you have? Thanks
I love the weird optioned stuff. This car guy approves
You know that’s Ford is the best the rest are history 😍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👌
Cool topic.
That red 302 Mustang was awesome! I’d lovingly put that “Pony” in my garage - Uh, if I had a garage!
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Hello Mark how are you doing
The Brothers collection has some great Fords but one Ford I haven't seen is the 68 1/2 Mustang GT with the 428 SCJ option. Do they have one?
I knew a guy down the street whose wife's cousin who was a carrot farmer had one of two factory Boss 429 Torinos that beat everything on the street for 20 years until a silo fell over on it. It's still under there today. Honest. I swear. My memory is impeccable.
Does he need the silo moved,small fee!
@@clintwalker6389 People have tried, but evidently the ghost of the carrot monster still haunts the silo.
Most likely 429 cobra jet or super cobra jet. Boss 9 was NEVER put in a torino by the factory.
@@markmundwiller5842 Right. My post was sarcasm aimed at all the guys in seemingly every Comments section that "remember" some extra bitchin' car back in the day that their neighbor or friend or relative had, regardless of it being incredibly rare or non-existent. Hence my "impeccable" memory. 😎
Ha. Makes perfect sence now. Agreed.
I love all cars above their brand, but I admit that my heart gravitates towards Chevy and Mercedes-Benz (when it comes to European brands)... I'll never diss a nice-looking Ford.
I love 69 and 70 Boss Stangs .
I was a witness to and participant in the original musclecar era (class of 69). By all measures, GM dominated the field. Four divisions, Body by Fisher quality, cutting edge styling, endless options, and pitch perfect marketing, kept GM on top. Mopar was a strong second I would say and generated less fanfare but earned a lot of quiet respect for their very serious powertrains. Ford was always kind of a dark horse. Apart from the Shelby cars, Fords didn't seem to garner much attention and were usually looked upon as prey. That is until the Cobra Jet engines came out, which seemed to instantly reverse Ford's street credibility. I myself was a GM guy until the summer of 70 when I fell in love with the Boss 302 and then, a few months later, the Boss 351. I would say that part of what attracted me was just the fun of being a bit of a contrarian and underdog in a land of GM and Mopar Giants. I still love the Boss cars and respect Fords of that era but I think it had to be a bit of an acquired taste.
daniel moran maybe, but the day GM and Mopar were bailed out by the American people Ford won. How did they win? The curvy body styles introduced by Ford in the 80’s were a direct attempt to compete with foreign automakers. GM in particular failed to compete . They thought that fancy sticker packages and image were enough. It wasn’t. To illustrate the beginnings of the end for GM, in the late 80’s , a 5.7 Iroc could literally cost twice as much as an lx5.0 that would show it its taillights repeatedly. Chevy lost all street prestige, and that on top of lackluster FWD offerings were the final gasps for them....
@@ro307805 My frame of reference was strictly the original musclecar era circa 1964-1974 and my personal experience with it. Ford severely curtailed their performance lineup for 72 by killing all their big block performance models and by 74 Ford had exited the performance market altogether. At least GM kept the big block performance intermediates alive through 74. Pontiac even came out with one of the era's better engines in the SD-455 for 73-74 and kept the Trans Am alive well beyond that. In that respect, Ford failed their loyal customers for something like 8 years. I give Ford all due credit, however, for basically reigniting the musclecar wars in the early 80s with the return of actual performance engineered Mustangs. The 80s merit a completely different discussion. I think the Buick GN crowd would have a few things to say there.
@@clevlandblock What about the 69 Mercury Cougar, How would you say that compared against GM and Mopars offerings at the time? I have just bought a 351 69 Cougar as a project as they look like a killer car. I wasn't around in that area but it's interesting to hear the knowledge from people who lived through it. Thanks.
@@XxSCaaRyFiEnDxX My parents bought a new 70 XR7 Cougar as a second car when I was 19. When dad and I when in to order it at the Lincoln Mercury dealer in Naperville, my plan was to try and get a 428. Just as we were about to enter the dealership near the service bay, there was a blue 69 Cougar 428 CJ (might have been a convertible) with the hood up. The owner was standing there looking perplexed. I asked him how he liked the 428. He started to complain about it as I recall, saying that the gas mileage sucked and that plug changes were impossible. He said "you're better off with the 351". Dad knew then and there what my secret plan was and gave me a look like "we're not going to get THAT motor, buddy". So we sit down with the salesman to order the car and dad clearly states that the car is to be daily driven by my mom. So as soon as I mentioned the 428CJ option, even the salesman discouraged me. We ordered the XR7 package with automatic, Traction-Loc, no AC, dark ivy green with dark green vinyl roof and saddle or ginger leather interior. The car would have come standard with a 351 2 barrel Windsor but I started bugging the salesman about the new 351 Cleveland mill. He got a twinkle in his eye and highly recommended that option. It was only about $30 extra over the Windsor and came with the 4 barrel carb and dual exhaust. The old man grudgingly went along with it. So I knew we were getting a bit of a sleeper with Boss 302 type heads. Several weeks later the car arrived at the dealer, the paper work was cut, and dad let me drive it home. It was sitting all alone in the service area, backed into a stall when I first saw her. A real beauty. I can still hear the sound of those duals when I fired it up. Big diameter pipes with a cross over. Kind of a metallic, King Kong gargling in a cave, sound. I always made sure she got premium and I gave it a very careful, loving break-in.
The only fly in the ointment was the stock 3.00 to 1 gear. Also, we had some warranty issues with the stock bias-ply Uniroyals.
The only mods I did were a 3.91 axle (later changed to a 3.50), a Ford chrome low restriction air cleaner, Hush Thrush turbo mufflers, a Ford performance parts dual point distributor conversion kit, and a rejetting of the carb. I only had access to the car on weekends when I came home from college. I was careful to put Sunoco 260 in it before cruising out and looking for street races. The mill responded well to several degrees advance over the factory setting. I think I was putting around 12 degrees BTDC on it. The overall combination was rather successful as long as I avoided anything much over 400 cubes. I kept a diary of all my races with that car and have numerous stories there. The FMX trans was outstanding and I always shifted it manually. In drive, at WOT, it would shift out at 5000. The Cleveland was rated at 5400 so that's where I shifted. A few hundred revs beyond that and I would get valve float. My biggest win was nudging out a new 70 Z28 (he was closing on me beyond 100 mph so I shut it down). I eventually bought the car from mom. The motor died in 1984 and rust had gotten through the floorboards by then. I sold her in 1992 to a gentleman who wanted the motor to restore a Mach 1. That Cougar was probably the most memorable car I've owned and brother, you should see the list. The Cougar took me through the peak of the musclecar madness of the early seventies. My friends were crazy about it and so was I.
@@clevlandblock Wow, what an awesome history! Sounds like you had a lot of fun with the car :D Shame I wasn't around during that area to really see it. Shame that you didn't get a hold of the 428. But it sounds like a blast, mines got the Windsor 351, factory 4 barrel with the FMX. She's stripped at the moment but am looking forward to giving her a restore, not a Concours
restore just a refresh. But am greatly looking forward to it!
I'd like to get your opinion on how the 69 or 70 Cougars compare to the GM and Mopar competition at the time, as no one really talks about the Cougar when comparing Ford against GM & Mopar. I feel like the Cougar was overshadowed by the Mustang.
Cheers!
Only thing the Brother’s collection is missing is a Ford GT40
The Galaxy 7 Litre was a 428, not 427. 428's never had a forged crank. They had a 3.98 stroke, externally balanced, cast crank.
Owned a 427 Tunnel Port..600hp
Love these why ....????? Is the best !!!!
I'm a Mopar guy, but definitely would buy a Ford before a Chevrolet. Great Ford muscle cars!
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Ha ha ha ha!!! I always say the same thing, I am a Ford guy, but dodge would be my brand if Ford didn’t exist!
Chev ......Who???😂🤣👍🏼👍🏼
428's do not have forged bottom ends. Crank and pistons are cast. "Boss" used in the 60's was similar to "really neat"; adapted by Ford as pop slang. Sorta like the Pontiac "Judge". Not named after anybody Shinoda knew.
Check on the specs of the 428 CJ/SCJ engines. Those were beast meant for racing and not the same inside as the Thunderjet 428 that went into "normal" production cars.
@@BloodRaven1969 No such thing as a 428 Thunderjet. Did you watch the video? The 428 CJ was an option on "normal" production cars for three years. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Sorry, I miss typed. It is the 428 Thunderbird Special. Not Thunderjet, that was the 429 base engine.
As to regular production, yep, but the CJ/SCJ was a muscle option and was, indeed, meant for racing. Not like a basic Country Squire Wagon. So that part still holds true.
@@BloodRaven1969 Cobra Jets were fairly sedate and easy to tune when daily driving them around. Iron intake, 390 cam, non-adjustable valvetrain. Not a race engine in stock form. The 427 Medium Riser and the Bosses would be closer to being "race" designs, detuned for production street use.
@@413x398 The CJ was sitll Hotter then the 428 T-Bird offering, and could be had from the factory in a few forms. For the race note...
RE: See - 1969 Mustang 428 SCJ Drag Pack NHRA results.
Just to clairify, After Ferrari dominated (6 wins) LeMans from 1960 thru 1965, Ford won the next four consecutive 24 hours of LeMans championships.
SOON: 10 things that make Dodge Muscle Cars the favorite of so many fans. By the author of 10 things that make Chevrolet Muscle Cars the favorite of so many fans. Hot Wheels approved.
Ask anyone in the world to name a muscle car. Nine out of ten would say " Mustang"
Mopar as I am, wouldn't mind a '69 Boss Mustang or Camaro etc., etc., the best from different worlds!
How about a Top 10 Engines, that should've been produced but never was, Chrysler's Ball Stud Hemi and DOHC Hemi and others....
Keep up the phenomenal work troops....oh btw, more old school 1/4 mile warriors and Nascar!
Please! 😉
Holman Moody prepped 427 tunnel port in a 68 Torino Talledega could have easily made this list.Also 427 tunnel port with dominantor intake that's the engine that won LeMans!
Tunnel Ports were not production engines, and thus are out of the scope of this particular video. No Talladega in 1968.
@@413x398 You're right actually no Talledega in 68.David Pearson did actually win 16 races in 68 with Holman Moody in his 427 fastback Torino winning the Nascar championship.The tunnel port is my favorite Ford engine.
Pontiac rules.
Thanks for taking time to put this video together - I'd rather hear the phrase "Ford V8" than "Corona Virus" anyday!! PLEASE can we have a feature on that stunning '70 Sublime Challenger that I keep seeing in the background - it looks to good to miss!
I'm pretty sure Ford had to produce 2,000 "Boss" 302's for the public to compete in Trans Am?
I know one thing, there's people out there who are just nothin but Ford and for that reason I was a little contrary to the brand It seemed to run in the familys kind of like farmers and their tractors, red vs. green but I digress you also had the generals command and the good guys in the white hats aka Dodge boys personally the roadrunner had my heart, untill being stung by a bee that belonged to my older brother who preferred owning a Ford instead
Ford needs 10 reasons to be the best but Mopar only needs one, the Hemi Cuda...
yavin99 : Ima Ford guy and I still have an old wound to lick that was inflicted back in Feb of '64.
@@alanwhite3280 I'm not really a Ford guy but I do still respect and like Ford, who wouldn't want to drive a 1970 Mach 1 super cobra jet around.
HA- GM HAD FORD BEET IN STYLE, PERFORMANCE AND VALUE. 1965 TO 1972
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Don't mind Ford and Mopar but I have to limit myself. Don't have the brains, time and money to keep up with more cars and trucks than GM - and I don't bother with Cadillacs and Oldsmobiles either. I haven't learned everything there is to learn about my chevies and pontiacs either.
Oops , only 2 valves per cylinder , and at the time a Guiness World record longest single row timing chain at over 6 feet of length.
429 boss police interceptor
No such thing
Pontiac...REAL MUSCLE!! (Ford eaters)
wow.....
Unibodys and poor engines( a few were good...boss engines..351 4 bolts. I fell in love with the mustang though...i feel it may have the nicest lines of an American car to this day.
Where is the "Brother's Collection" on display? Sad you stopped telling us exactly which videos you are referencing. Instead, it's "go fish".
I was a Ford fan for years and bought a 1970 Boss 302 just after I graduated from high school in 1972. Ford really dropped the ball as far as spare parts goes. It was difficult to get parts from Ford. Also Ford built waaayyy too many performance cars with a Cruise-O-Matic and non-locking 3.00:1 or 3.25 rear ends. Nowhere near enough 4 speeds with 3.91 or higher limited slip rear ends.
Sorry I got a big cat that eats pony’s it’s called a camaro
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First word that comes when you say ford ! RECALL ! Chevy and dodge made way nicer muscle car ! Fords Suck !
Didn't those both get bailout money because nobody was buying them?
Then,if you feel that way,go watch GM/Fiat videos?.(Government Motors and Mostly Obsolete Parts And Rust)LMAO.
I knew a guy in high school who showed me his T-bolt in his barn along side 2 yes 2 SOHC crate motors....yeah it was cool AF