I hate how comics continuously create new and more powerful beings that can kill the old hierarchy only to bring them back later as if nothing happened or they survived because so and so. One of the reasons why as I grew up I stopped reading them.
More writers getting brought in and want to create their own version and what not it fucks with continuity so much I don’t bother keeping up with whatever is cannon I just read whatever issues seem interesting
@@fettifuego 1) I'm tending to enjoy the stories that are more or less self-contained these days, like Immortal Hulk or the new Justice Society comic. 2) It drives me crazy that the authors care so little about continuity. It was established long ago in Marvel that you can't change your own past (Marvel Two-in-One #50 straight up says it), yet that was the entire idea behind Age of Ultron. It is really that hard to tell good stories that respect what came before? I ask that because Marvel exists in a 'many worlds' quantum version of reality (I.e. - What If?). That means that, for every world destroyed by an incursion, at least two more were created. Stories that effect just our universe are okay, but stories that effect an entire multiverse like Marvels (DC's was based on different principles) open a whole other can of worms.
I consider pretty much everything from 2000 and up fan fiction. Got a lot of w0ke people who want to destroy the characters specifically. Then there are the self inserts. It's all a joke at this point.
Fun fact: Doom started the incursions killing a Molecule Man variant, not the Beyonders. The Beyonders plan was to use every Molecule Man of each universe as bombs, and destroy the Omniverse that way. But Doom changed that and almost destroyed everything, but defeated the Beyonders.
@@hela5523 Dr Doom and Molecule Man. Without Dr Doom's plan, Beyonders would won. And it was Dr Doom who brought back Molecule Man. So if it wasn't for Dr Doom, Beyonders would accomplish their plan. Obviously he needed Molecule Man, that's why he brought him back.
@@mrseton3387 during the incursions event. In Secret Wars, but better see all they did from the beginning. Secret Wars 2015. It's also explained by Dr Strange in Battleworld event.
the beyonder's plan was to detonate the molecule man in every single universe at once, to instantly destroy the multiverse. Doom thwarted their plan by triggered what's known as the early death of an universe, made by killing the molecule man of that universe. This event made the multiverse became unbalance, and fell upon itself aka the Incursion
@@DS-dp4fh Who created the one who created the Beyonders? It wouldn’t be the first time a creation destroyed it’s creator. (or that a creation was specifically created to destroy a creator’s creator)
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's still stupid he died like that. There are canon requirements that have to be met before he can die, and they weren't in this story. But, they're capable of attacking and killing him.
@@ClockworkGearhead 1 kid Beyonder killed Death. And Living Tribunal, Eternity, Yahweh, Chaos, Inbetweener etc, etc. All there scared of a weakened kid Beyonder begging him not to kill Death.
@@ClockworkGearhead Beyonder at first was the top dog in Marvel. T.O.A.A didn't even appear in comics. You obviously don't read comics. Because calling bad writing to the best Beyonder story in Marvel is just hilarious. Secret Wars 1&2 were great. Way better than 2015 Secret Wars. But what would you know....
@@bruceleggett568 I kinda realized that maybe its balance on a much high scale. Maybe there’s a universe where thanos kills every creature and a universe where he is a non factor. It seems that in comics being a “god” doesn’t mean much
@@GregoryChew0921 because he serves what we call the true creator, he maintains things in ALL realities. He is suppose to only be vulnerable to the One Above All’s power. Period. Once there was a relic that was suppose to be from the One Above All and it would hurt the Tribunal. The whole thing was kind of poorly written and thats a trend with Marvel and the very powerful.
@@bruceleggett568 The Living Tribunal doesn't even maintain true balance. It just makes sure one universe doesn't run amok and destroy the multiverse through the misuse of magic. In fact, if one universe grows powerful enough to destroy others _without_ magic, then it allows it because it was, "Part of the natural process." This is one of the reasons it let Adam Warlock keep the infinity gauntlet after the Infinity War saga and the reason it took it away later. It's also the reason it lets the Cancerverse grow beyond its own original universe despite the threat it poses to the multiverse. In other words, "I'm just here to stop shitty writing."
Well, I mean, if the One Above All is supposed to represent the editor, then the Living Tribunal is supposed to be the assistant that gives him an objective viewpoint to stop bad writing. Makes sense its inconsistent if he's dead. **taps temple**
Writing cosmic stories is hard to do, because we as people have no frame of reference on it. And therefore, usually like this one, the story becomes absolutely lame.
I never understood The Beyonders. Are these new Beyonders, or the same ones from the 1980’s (I THINK that they created the Cosmic Cube!)? The ones from the 80’s were green .
They are gray now i think. They were trying to make their perfect form via evolutionary we have a guy named the beyonder he's looks human from their evolution
@@callmesenpaidesu1506 - The High Evolutionary, you mean? The Beyonder originally didn’t have anything to do with The Beyonders . If I remember correctly, The Beyonders were responsible for creating the Cosmic Cubes. I’m not sure if the Ivory Kings and The Beyonders are the same (Although I know that they are retconning them right now .).
@@matthewschwartz6607 there all the same race. But over the years something has changed. 1st Beyonder wasn't green, you referring to Beyonder recton. After that recton they said Beyonder was a cosmic cube being. That also has been recton, no long ago in Defenders Beyond, we were explained a origin story of the Beyonders, they were created by the Celestials. But now it turned out that the Beyonders got their power from the Lost One. We will see where that goes. Lol
The Beyonders are simply the result of someone saying, "What's above the Marvel multiverse?" And someone said, "All comics are in the omniverse?" So, like, DC, Marvel, Image, Top Cow, etc, all exist in this Omniverse. Then someone asked, "So what powerful beings live in it?" Boom. The Beyonder. (Hence the name.) Then it became The Beyonders cause someone didn't want to take the time to learn the actual lore. They're stupidly powerful in the Marvel multiverse because they're supposed to be outside of it.
This is like when the One Above All was "overthrown" by Astral Regulator Thanos. The reality is, The One Above All just wanted to cosplay. This happened because he wanted it to. It's really that simple.
To be specific: while the original the Living Tribunal was the 3rd strongest being in the marvel multiverse (after the One above all and the Multiversal version of Eternity), he couldn't do nothing against enemies from outside of the multiverse. The current one, (an Adam Warlock from an alternative universe) stated the he has no such weaknesses.
Lol wrong. Phoenix Force is only second to One Above All and Multi-Eternity is not the second. The Phoenix Force exists beyond MultiEternity which is the embodiment of entire Omniverse and it was shown that above MultiEternity is the True Form of Oblivion, and above True Form Oblivion are the Beyonders and above the Beyonders is the Phoenix Force. Read Defenders Beyond
@jamesdeer3129 TOAA is referenced in many comics, your selection is very limited. They were referenced in different ways originally until they finally decided a direct name to be The One Above All, from then on they've been utilized and referenced in almost any comic pertaining to the true origin of the universe or to higher powers like the Living Tribunal, whose origin is distinctly from TOAA only.
I nevwr did read this storyline. Do t know how it ended or anything. When it was first announced, i just couldn't fathom how a being that has infinite power over a multiverse of realities second only tonthe one who created said realties coule be taken out. And now that I see who done it, it still makes no sense🤯. I think their should always be some type of order when it comes to cosmic beings and power levels. Granted i dont know much about the beyonders, but for inferior beings to come up with some sort of technology that can overcome infinite mutliversal power just doesnt sit right with me🤷🏾♂️
One of the theories is that The Living Tribunal's power didn't work on The Beyonders, because they come from outside the multiverse and are technically outside of its jurisdiction.
So, I’m sure someone in here can explain this. Where does the “brothers” that is the Marvel and DC universes fit in to this hierarchy? I remember during Marvel vs. DC, Living Tribunal and Spectre were the most powerful beings of their respective universes next to the “brothers”. One Above All must’ve come out in recent years,so, this kind of messes things up.
The One Above All is a fairly old concept but they didn't decide a dedicated name for quite awhile. Eventually they decided it and kept it going. The One Above All is usually not mentioned because he is the final level raid boss compared to someone who just spawned into a game, even to the Living Tribunal, its a no chance scenario. There is the Presence which is the strongest in the DCU, and again, usually isn't referenced unless absolutely necessary because they are pubstomp characters. Their involvement means its a no chance situation. The Presence and the TOAA are /not/ the same entity either, but their universes are capable of interacting. Behind the Source Wall in DC comics, its observable the other universes and even our own as being beyond it, thus is why almost all who look beyond the Source Wall, go mad or become part of the wall itself. So for the hierarchy of the comics, its really like this, for the metaphorical sense and literal. The Lost One is the concept of storytelling/the pen and paper itself. Then there are beings like TOAA and the Presence, the writers, but among them are also the Beyonders, basically other less influential writers or influential writers to the stories told. The Concept of storytelling is necessary for writers to do their work, to create, but occasionally writers will have people butting in on their storylines and causing mayhem in their eyes, this can be other writers, publishers, contracts, fans, anything that ends up influencing a piece of story. Thus its the Lost One giving potential, the TOAAs writing, and the Beyonders pushing influence.
The One Above All is also the One Below All and affectively smashed the Hulk because the Hulk became The Universe Eater in an alternative universe and the current marvel universe, I still think there's more than one of each cosmic entity meaning a multiverse of different powerful beings, and most are slightly different in the powers? The Ones Above Everything-Beyonders the multiple Living Tribunals-Celestials, and possibly The Shaper Of Worlds are linked by a source of parallel thought, which is sometimes broken by a single moment or thought, and then something or a single piece of inspiration causes the whole multiverse to become a battle field, a secret war of the entire multiverse where some are enrased from reality and others are changed or become a tool in that fight for survival of the living universes.. One Above The Marvels-Universe, Avengers & the whole Marvel Universe will never be the same, but sometimes there will be something that remains?
@@Tsaava1338 Well I did came across an online post/article that said an alternate version of Adam Warlock became The Living Tribunal after the original died
These Beyonders will be decimated by The White Phoenix of the Crown without even blinking an eye!!!! They were lucky that the Phoenix did not chose to intervene. She can rebuild anything that has been destroyed in an instant as she is death and life and the ultimate reality warper.
To me this is another example of writers today not knowing Marvel history. Also, a nitpick but, the Tribunal nullified the powers of the Infinity Gems. Not stones.
@jamesdeer3129 it was established in the Marvel vs DC/DC vs Marvel event that the Gems only work in their "home universe" when Darkseid took the Gauntlet to the DCU.
And the one above All, just accept that his creations or his children are being slaughtered and he sits by doing nothing. And he let's the humans pick at the living tribunals body like if they were ants. 🤦♂️
So who wins if it was just one of the beyonders vs the living tribunal. Because when we saw the beyonders attacking living tribunal it was multiple of them.
@@laluseednope. Doom was struggling. Prove is, that with all that power he couldn't fix his face. He didn't want to fix the Omniverse like Reed Richards did. Doom basically destroyed almost everything to defeat the Beyonders. Doom started the incursions.
It is like saying DC has killed off The Spectre... which is not possible. The Living Tribunal, much like the Spectre, can only be killed by they creator and no other!!!
molecule mans exist, doctor doom killed beyonders by luring them into millions of exploding molecule mans, stealing their powers, patching the remaining universes into battleworld. i might be wrong, well okay
He just said in a video that two of the Earth's mightiest (Hyperion and Thor) were killed. So... no. They would not stand a single chance. Ironman can't do anything since the Beyonders have technology way more superior than Ironman's, so his repulsers won't do a thing. Hulk only displays physical power which does nothing. IF Hulk was to be a thread to them, all they could do is to put him in a bubble and make him drift forever and ever in space. War Machine is just Ironman with lower IQ. Hawkeye, Black Widow, Captain Cheeseburger, Falcon, Winter Soldier, and other characters using guns or regular weapons won't do a thing. Scarlet could perhaps be a threat, but she's probably evil or dead in this story. Vision with infinity stone won't do anything because they defeated Tribunal himself, and Tribunal is vastly more powerful than all Infinity Stones together. Black Panther would also be eradicated, although he could store the energy blasts from Beyonders, and shoot those back at the Beyonders using his suits tech, he is still just a human, which is a weakness. I think that's all the avengers right?
Tbh this comic pissed me off. LT has no variant. And should be able to destroy every beyonder at once. Horrible. Only AR thanos was even worse. Ruins the cannon.
@@jamienaismith9376 No. They can't defeat Astral Regulator Thanos. Nor can they beat Blanco Shaggy, who can defeat Astral Regulator Thanos with his pinky.
@@ClockworkGearhead lol Thanos regulator died in nothingness. Beyonders can exist in nothingness, so as Loki God of stories. And Thanos doesn't have the power of T.O.A.A. Thanos would easily get killed by one Beyonder. Period.
@@jamienaismith9376 No. The point of the Astral Regulator is literally to steal the essence of other characters, even The Beyonders. He would just steal their essence and deal's done. That's how Thanos became the One Above All. And the Beyonders can't exist in nothingness, they bring parts of the omniverse with them like a bubble.
@@ClockworkGearhead lmao already proved in Loki God of stories they could exist in nothingness. When they faced Loki. T.O.A.A tried to send Beyonder back into the comic, Beyonder said no ripped the comic and flew off. Beyonder>>>>>Thanos.
@@mdtalhaansari1096 o Only becaise there is nothing for do history this does not mean you cant do than and we dont know in what le get lost it could a dimesion a fight a game or even (see it as a joke since we know nothong) while going to the bathroom
The whole "Omg most powerful thing ever can destroy/create universes, even more so than the last person who is the most powerful evererer" comic trope is boring af, stick to the cap of "this guy can lift a mountain, he's incredible" just cap it at that.
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Not so living now is it.
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@rollin7788 You Tell ‘Em!
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Mcu humor
I hate how comics continuously create new and more powerful beings that can kill the old hierarchy only to bring them back later as if nothing happened or they survived because so and so. One of the reasons why as I grew up I stopped reading them.
More writers getting brought in and want to create their own version and what not it fucks with continuity so much I don’t bother keeping up with whatever is cannon I just read whatever issues seem interesting
Yeah it doesn't make sense at all.
They can't even think of a decent origin story of these beyonders.
@@fettifuego 1) I'm tending to enjoy the stories that are more or less self-contained these days, like Immortal Hulk or the new Justice Society comic.
2) It drives me crazy that the authors care so little about continuity. It was established long ago in Marvel that you can't change your own past (Marvel Two-in-One #50 straight up says it), yet that was the entire idea behind Age of Ultron. It is really that hard to tell good stories that respect what came before?
I ask that because Marvel exists in a 'many worlds' quantum version of reality (I.e. - What If?). That means that, for every world destroyed by an incursion, at least two more were created. Stories that effect just our universe are okay, but stories that effect an entire multiverse like Marvels (DC's was based on different principles) open a whole other can of worms.
I consider pretty much everything from 2000 and up fan fiction. Got a lot of w0ke people who want to destroy the characters specifically. Then there are the self inserts. It's all a joke at this point.
Fun fact: Doom started the incursions killing a Molecule Man variant, not the Beyonders.
The Beyonders plan was to use every Molecule Man of each universe as bombs, and destroy the Omniverse that way. But Doom changed that and almost destroyed everything, but defeated the Beyonders.
Yeah but molecule man defeated Beyonders
@@hela5523 Dr Doom and Molecule Man. Without Dr Doom's plan, Beyonders would won.
And it was Dr Doom who brought back Molecule Man.
So if it wasn't for Dr Doom, Beyonders would accomplish their plan. Obviously he needed Molecule Man, that's why he brought him back.
where can i read it ?
@@mrseton3387 during the incursions event. In Secret Wars, but better see all they did from the beginning. Secret Wars 2015. It's also explained by Dr Strange in Battleworld event.
the beyonder's plan was to detonate the molecule man in every single universe at once, to instantly destroy the multiverse. Doom thwarted their plan by triggered what's known as the early death of an universe, made by killing the molecule man of that universe. This event made the multiverse became unbalance, and fell upon itself aka the Incursion
If the Living Tribunal answers only to The One Above All, why didn't The One Above All intervene when his "enforcer" was destroyed
@jamescheddar4896only correct answer
I had big problems.
Marvel is beyond lazy when it comes to writing.
How could any entity destroy the Living Tribunal except the one below all or it's creator the one above all. Do not make sense.
@@DS-dp4fh Who created the one who created the Beyonders? It wouldn’t be the first time a creation destroyed it’s creator. (or that a creation was specifically created to destroy a creator’s creator)
Them killing the LT made no sense at all.
Cosmic entities especially Living Tribunal was heavily nerfed.
Cool. Another story with cosmic entities, with the power of the universe itself, that will be defeated by some hammer or green punch. Legit
go make a better story then 😂
@@lordvader2106 The fact that this isn't my job, doesn't mean that all the stories I read must be cool. Fanservice obliterated the freedom of authors
@@lordvader2106 you dont have to be gordon ramsay to know that a dish tastes like shit
Then another entity called beyond the beyonders came and …
@@lordvader2106what a lazy response
So he's just "The Tribunal" now?
The dead tribunal would be correct😅
Lol😂
Ah yes, a being created by the literal god himself, tasked with the mission of maintaining balance through all multiverses, fucking dies
The Beyonders come from outside the multiverse.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's still stupid he died like that. There are canon requirements that have to be met before he can die, and they weren't in this story. But, they're capable of attacking and killing him.
@@ClockworkGearhead 1 kid Beyonder killed Death. And Living Tribunal, Eternity, Yahweh, Chaos, Inbetweener etc, etc. All there scared of a weakened kid Beyonder begging him not to kill Death.
@@jamienaismith9376 yeah, and? It's bad writing
@@ClockworkGearhead Beyonder at first was the top dog in Marvel.
T.O.A.A didn't even appear in comics.
You obviously don't read comics. Because calling bad writing to the best Beyonder story in Marvel is just hilarious. Secret Wars 1&2 were great. Way better than 2015 Secret Wars. But what would you know....
They just call him the Tribunal now.
If the one above all is supposed to maintain balance, then why is thanos allowed to rampage through certain universes.
The tribunal maintains balance for the one above all.
@@bruceleggett568 I kinda realized that maybe its balance on a much high scale. Maybe there’s a universe where thanos kills every creature and a universe where he is a non factor. It seems that in comics being a “god” doesn’t mean much
@@GregoryChew0921 because he serves what we call the true creator, he maintains things in ALL realities. He is suppose to only be vulnerable to the One Above All’s power. Period. Once there was a relic that was suppose to be from the One Above All and it would hurt the Tribunal. The whole thing was kind of poorly written and thats a trend with Marvel and the very powerful.
It's a canon event bro
@@bruceleggett568 The Living Tribunal doesn't even maintain true balance. It just makes sure one universe doesn't run amok and destroy the multiverse through the misuse of magic. In fact, if one universe grows powerful enough to destroy others _without_ magic, then it allows it because it was, "Part of the natural process." This is one of the reasons it let Adam Warlock keep the infinity gauntlet after the Infinity War saga and the reason it took it away later. It's also the reason it lets the Cancerverse grow beyond its own original universe despite the threat it poses to the multiverse.
In other words, "I'm just here to stop shitty writing."
How can it Die, is death even a thing to TLT, thats just absurd imo
No. It's hidden face is supposed to represent _everyone._ _EVERYONE_ has to die before LT dies.
@@ClockworkGearhead then hows Iron Man and The Watcher alive ? Its still difficult to digest…. The writers messed up here
@@saurabhsingh6227 Yeah, they messed up.
Can’t believe there is a video about such an inconsistent piece of writing . Makes as much sense as the Black Panther beating the silver surfer
😂😂 he already did.
Well, I mean, if the One Above All is supposed to represent the editor, then the Living Tribunal is supposed to be the assistant that gives him an objective viewpoint to stop bad writing.
Makes sense its inconsistent if he's dead. **taps temple**
Or the new female black Panther beating Namor in a movie.
Writing cosmic stories is hard to do, because we as people have no frame of reference on it. And therefore, usually like this one, the story becomes absolutely lame.
Cosmic stories are often supposed to be metaphorical. They work better that way.
The metaphor here is: power wank.
I wonder if the Beyonders could take on the Celestial Sapiens from Ben 10.
Lol
They cannot.
@@blackdynamite_5470 they can
And people say he's the Marvel equivalent of Lucifer Morningstar
@4:24 cap looks like Charlton Heston or Kirk Douglas
I never understood The Beyonders. Are these new Beyonders, or the same ones from the 1980’s (I THINK that they created the Cosmic Cube!)? The ones from the 80’s were green .
I think it's the new beyonders
They are gray now i think. They were trying to make their perfect form via evolutionary we have a guy named the beyonder he's looks human from their evolution
@@callmesenpaidesu1506 - The High Evolutionary, you mean? The Beyonder originally didn’t have anything to do with The Beyonders . If I remember correctly, The Beyonders were responsible for creating the Cosmic Cubes. I’m not sure if the Ivory Kings and The Beyonders are the same (Although I know that they are retconning them right now .).
@@matthewschwartz6607 there all the same race. But over the years something has changed.
1st Beyonder wasn't green, you referring to Beyonder recton. After that recton they said Beyonder was a cosmic cube being. That also has been recton, no long ago in Defenders Beyond, we were explained a origin story of the Beyonders, they were created by the Celestials. But now it turned out that the Beyonders got their power from the Lost One. We will see where that goes. Lol
The Beyonders are simply the result of someone saying, "What's above the Marvel multiverse?" And someone said, "All comics are in the omniverse?" So, like, DC, Marvel, Image, Top Cow, etc, all exist in this Omniverse. Then someone asked, "So what powerful beings live in it?" Boom. The Beyonder. (Hence the name.) Then it became The Beyonders cause someone didn't want to take the time to learn the actual lore.
They're stupidly powerful in the Marvel multiverse because they're supposed to be outside of it.
Love your videos keep it up
Subbed! I love the commanding AI voice used for these videos!
@0:40
Why does his crotch look like iron man’s helmet 😂
Its an origin story for iron man 😂
Tony sure got his inspiration
Now it's the "Not So Living Tribunal."
Keep going
moral of the story: writter can do what the fu** he wants.
This is like when the One Above All was "overthrown" by Astral Regulator Thanos. The reality is, The One Above All just wanted to cosplay. This happened because he wanted it to. It's really that simple.
Does this like clean up the secret wars or is it a prequel
Now that's a team, Beast, Reed, Black Panther and Hulk.
To be specific: while the original the Living Tribunal was the 3rd strongest being in the marvel multiverse (after the One above all and the Multiversal version of Eternity), he couldn't do nothing against enemies from outside of the multiverse.
The current one, (an Adam Warlock from an alternative universe) stated the he has no such weaknesses.
Lol wrong. Phoenix Force is only second to One Above All and Multi-Eternity is not the second. The Phoenix Force exists beyond MultiEternity which is the embodiment of entire Omniverse and it was shown that above MultiEternity is the True Form of Oblivion, and above True Form Oblivion are the Beyonders and above the Beyonders is the Phoenix Force. Read Defenders Beyond
@jamesdeer3129havent you read the Thanos issue and the Spiderman one?
@jamesdeer3129 TOAA is referenced in many comics, your selection is very limited. They were referenced in different ways originally until they finally decided a direct name to be The One Above All, from then on they've been utilized and referenced in almost any comic pertaining to the true origin of the universe or to higher powers like the Living Tribunal, whose origin is distinctly from TOAA only.
Beyonder far stronger
So if I want to read this where should I start or is there a big comic book with everything compiled together😅
Some people really wanna put these characters up against anime characters
The living Tribunal had multiple forms the beyonders only killed one of the forms the actual Living Tribunal remained stays outside the multiverse
The Lost One looks like a mix of Magneto and Galactus! I like his design 👌
I nevwr did read this storyline. Do t know how it ended or anything. When it was first announced, i just couldn't fathom how a being that has infinite power over a multiverse of realities second only tonthe one who created said realties coule be taken out. And now that I see who done it, it still makes no sense🤯. I think their should always be some type of order when it comes to cosmic beings and power levels. Granted i dont know much about the beyonders, but for inferior beings to come up with some sort of technology that can overcome infinite mutliversal power just doesnt sit right with me🤷🏾♂️
One of the theories is that The Living Tribunal's power didn't work on The Beyonders, because they come from outside the multiverse and are technically outside of its jurisdiction.
Where are from the comic book illustrations shown in this video??????????
New Avengers by Jonathan Hickman, full comic is in the description
Comics: Super-God is more powerful than God.
Also, Extreme God is more powerful than Super God.
Step aside, Mega-UltraGod approaches!
So, I’m sure someone in here can explain this. Where does the “brothers” that is the Marvel and DC universes fit in to this hierarchy? I remember during Marvel vs. DC, Living Tribunal and Spectre were the most powerful beings of their respective universes next to the “brothers”. One Above All must’ve come out in recent years,so, this kind of messes things up.
The One Above All is a fairly old concept but they didn't decide a dedicated name for quite awhile. Eventually they decided it and kept it going. The One Above All is usually not mentioned because he is the final level raid boss compared to someone who just spawned into a game, even to the Living Tribunal, its a no chance scenario. There is the Presence which is the strongest in the DCU, and again, usually isn't referenced unless absolutely necessary because they are pubstomp characters. Their involvement means its a no chance situation. The Presence and the TOAA are /not/ the same entity either, but their universes are capable of interacting. Behind the Source Wall in DC comics, its observable the other universes and even our own as being beyond it, thus is why almost all who look beyond the Source Wall, go mad or become part of the wall itself. So for the hierarchy of the comics, its really like this, for the metaphorical sense and literal. The Lost One is the concept of storytelling/the pen and paper itself. Then there are beings like TOAA and the Presence, the writers, but among them are also the Beyonders, basically other less influential writers or influential writers to the stories told. The Concept of storytelling is necessary for writers to do their work, to create, but occasionally writers will have people butting in on their storylines and causing mayhem in their eyes, this can be other writers, publishers, contracts, fans, anything that ends up influencing a piece of story. Thus its the Lost One giving potential, the TOAAs writing, and the Beyonders pushing influence.
The poor treatment of Marvels more established Cosmic entities in recent years has gotten very tiresome.
You sound like a Wes Anderson movie trailer, and I mean that as a compliment
I can't take these modern comics serious.
thx someone said it, its the same thing when people say Thor can beat Galactus, and I directly know thats bullshit
. Claiming galactus tribunal lvl
And
Base thor outerversal
When DC and Marvel created multiversal beings...every storyline became very complicated.
The One Above All is also the One Below All and affectively smashed the Hulk because the Hulk became The Universe Eater in an alternative universe and the current marvel universe, I still think there's more than one of each cosmic entity meaning a multiverse of different powerful beings, and most are slightly different in the powers? The Ones Above Everything-Beyonders the multiple Living Tribunals-Celestials, and possibly The Shaper Of Worlds are linked by a source of parallel thought, which is sometimes broken by a single moment or thought, and then something or a single piece of inspiration causes the whole multiverse to become a battle field, a secret war of the entire multiverse where some are enrased from reality and others are changed or become a tool in that fight for survival of the living universes..
One Above The Marvels-Universe, Avengers & the whole Marvel Universe will never be the same, but sometimes there will be something that remains?
And there again living tribunal defeated .
Marvel has become increasingly inconsistent with the storylines, origins, and abilities. of the Marvel characters.
The Beyonders were always this strong, though.
Big G must have been busy.. Getting Diabeetus.
Guess he doesn’t live up to his name, does he?
The dead tribunal
People forgot about the secret war series again
Worst thing marvel has ever done...besides AR thanos and letting disney nerf everyone. Imo.
Name of comic
Looked like the living tribunal stood there and let it happen. It didnt even fight back.........
"Unrivaled multiversal entity."
Gets killed by the Beyonder.....
I noticed that the picture of The Living Tribunal at the start of this video has hair 😂😂😂
Because that's Adam Warlock
@@Tsaava1338 Well I did came across an online post/article that said an alternate version of Adam Warlock became The Living Tribunal after the original died
These Beyonders will be decimated by The White Phoenix of the Crown without even blinking an eye!!!! They were lucky that the Phoenix did not chose to intervene. She can rebuild anything that has been destroyed in an instant as she is death and life and the ultimate reality warper.
with the way Marvel is going... the beyonders will destroy the One Above All. smh
Are the “ Beyonders” related to Galactus’s rival The Beyonder?
He's quite literally the herald of God (The Writers) so that God doesn't have to maintain order & can just create more or watch.
To me this is another example of writers today not knowing Marvel history.
Also, a nitpick but, the Tribunal nullified the powers of the Infinity Gems. Not stones.
@jamesdeer3129 it was established in the Marvel vs DC/DC vs Marvel event that the Gems only work in their "home universe" when Darkseid took the Gauntlet to the DCU.
@jamesdeer3129 since when? (Sorry, there's no way to ask that without sounding sparky, but that isn't my intention)
And the one above All, just accept that his creations or his children are being slaughtered and he sits by doing nothing. And he let's the humans pick at the living tribunals body like if they were ants. 🤦♂️
How can you kill the embodiment of the universe?
Guess he has to change his name now
when will there be a real voice reveal?
So who wins if it was just one of the beyonders vs the living tribunal. Because when we saw the beyonders attacking living tribunal it was multiple of them.
The Living Tribunal actually trapped a Beyonder in a limbo dimension on a 1 on 1 fight
Living Tribunal
so living tribunal versus Odin who wins ?
Doom saved us all...
The greatest comic character ever created. His will is absolute.
@@laluseednope. Doom was struggling. Prove is, that with all that power he couldn't fix his face. He didn't want to fix the Omniverse like Reed Richards did.
Doom basically destroyed almost everything to defeat the Beyonders. Doom started the incursions.
It is like saying DC has killed off The Spectre... which is not possible. The Living Tribunal, much like the Spectre, can only be killed by they creator and no other!!!
Why is one of the three faces Batman???
The Living Tribunal is a badass.
But why the one above all allowed this
Undead Tribunal will be a Marvel Zombies spinoff
The tribunal has been disbanded
And nothing of value was lost that day.
Lol only 3 so uh the Avengers don’t stand a chance then, right?
molecule mans exist, doctor doom killed beyonders by luring them into millions of exploding molecule mans, stealing their powers, patching the remaining universes into battleworld. i might be wrong, well okay
He just said in a video that two of the Earth's mightiest (Hyperion and Thor) were killed.
So... no. They would not stand a single chance.
Ironman can't do anything since the Beyonders have technology way more superior than Ironman's, so his repulsers won't do a thing.
Hulk only displays physical power which does nothing. IF Hulk was to be a thread to them, all they could do is to put him in a bubble and make him drift forever and ever in space.
War Machine is just Ironman with lower IQ.
Hawkeye, Black Widow, Captain Cheeseburger, Falcon, Winter Soldier, and other characters using guns or regular weapons won't do a thing.
Scarlet could perhaps be a threat, but she's probably evil or dead in this story.
Vision with infinity stone won't do anything because they defeated Tribunal himself, and Tribunal is vastly more powerful than all Infinity Stones together.
Black Panther would also be eradicated, although he could store the energy blasts from Beyonders, and shoot those back at the Beyonders using his suits tech, he is still just a human, which is a weakness.
I think that's all the avengers right?
Where was the Phoenix force when the beyonders were killing everyone?
Tbh this comic pissed me off. LT has no variant. And should be able to destroy every beyonder at once. Horrible. Only AR thanos was even worse. Ruins the cannon.
Toaa: 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
And YET...Deathpool Is the only one Who knows the Truth.
That's interesting thanks fellow nerd 🤓
Epic
The One Above All AKA Stan Lee 😂 RIP
uhh, it aint livin' anymore..
oh noooooooo
At least let the new big powerful guys have a good design bruh 😭
power creep ruins
Always some crapy stones or fragments men
Idk, I’ll say the writer made them truly THAAAAAT Powerful because we get it their powerful but, Y’all beat him..? The living tribunal ?…. mmmmmk
Yellow jacket? Was a good guy?
The beyonders failed to account for the incalculable power of the.....WRITERS :) Jack Kirby can wipe them all out with one stroke of his pen :)
Punching bag for writers to show power scaling of op characters
Question...can these beyonders defeat Thanos?
Very easily yes. I'll put it this way. A kid Beyonder killed Death. Death>>>>>Thanos.
@@jamienaismith9376 No. They can't defeat Astral Regulator Thanos. Nor can they beat Blanco Shaggy, who can defeat Astral Regulator Thanos with his pinky.
@@ClockworkGearhead lol Thanos regulator died in nothingness. Beyonders can exist in nothingness, so as Loki God of stories.
And Thanos doesn't have the power of T.O.A.A.
Thanos would easily get killed by one Beyonder. Period.
@@jamienaismith9376 No. The point of the Astral Regulator is literally to steal the essence of other characters, even The Beyonders. He would just steal their essence and deal's done. That's how Thanos became the One Above All.
And the Beyonders can't exist in nothingness, they bring parts of the omniverse with them like a bubble.
@@ClockworkGearhead lmao already proved in Loki God of stories they could exist in nothingness. When they faced Loki.
T.O.A.A tried to send Beyonder back into the comic, Beyonder said no ripped the comic and flew off.
Beyonder>>>>>Thanos.
At this point this characters purpose is to simply show power lvl of other characters, a jobber.
So beyonders are producers limiting comics money
Immortal can die?
ok so the being that is higher than death can die ok got it anything and anyone can die death is omnipotent
So lady death is more powerful than living tribunal??/
Enter Knull
"the lost one, an entity that existed even before the birth of the first universe". What or where was he get lost from then?
History, i guess
@@okyx3985 what history before the birth of the first universe?
@@mdtalhaansari1096 o
Only becaise there is nothing for do history this does not mean you cant do than and we dont know in what le get lost it could a dimesion a fight a game or even (see it as a joke since we know nothong) while going to the bathroom
@@mdtalhaansari1096 its a big and bad joke but you get it we kist domt know
@@mdtalhaansari1096 aniway i think he lost in something of bigger scale like he owned swthing but then lost it or se power than he lost or who knows
If living tribunal is the main/top of one above all why he didn’t interfere !! Lame writing
The whole "Omg most powerful thing ever can destroy/create universes, even more so than the last person who is the most powerful evererer" comic trope is boring af, stick to the cap of "this guy can lift a mountain, he's incredible" just cap it at that.
Cap at 4:24 looks alot like a young 45. 😏
Not the Real Living Tribunal
The Real One is in G.O.D.S. and Looks Triangular Abstract
One of the greatest comics ever to be written 🔥
stupidest*