The Absurd Original Ending of Mass Effect
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Let's talk the original absurd ending of Mass Effect!
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Drew: What if the use of Mass Effect fields led to the end of the universe?
Other writer: Then why would the Reapers give them the technology that literally gave them mass effect fields from the offset?
Drew: Yeah. No idea. Anyway, I'm off. Bye!
Writer: Well... Erm... I guess we can dump dark energy into something called the scourge on another galaxy to kinda carry on the idea in the future? 🤷🏿♂️
And also, why does human DNA is special? It doesn't make any sense the only "trait" humans have is their diversity and you are telling me that asari's that are literally modified by the proteans or krogans that are kinda like the perfect species they aren't as "special" like a human?
ssssssshit, that does ruin this whole theory, unless there's something even weirder going on even further behind the curtains. No idea what that could be.
@@roggonval That is not weird at all, some species have more DNA variety and others not so much, besides the fact that there's no much use for that, only to make humans the perfect walking test tubes. One reason why the Reapers found more interesting the humans among other races maybe was because it was way more easy to make husks but nothing more.
mate, They gave them the mass relays BECAUSE organic species would just invent them by themselves. by giving them mass relay technology they make sure organic life remains and advance along a technological path the reapers desire. sovereign told it to shepard when he talked to him.
if the reapers just wiped out at one point an organic civilization would raised and reinvent the mass relay and they may get tech the reapers do not understand. The reaper's can not just keep watching out for organic civilization all the time. the galaxy is to big. this way not only they can keep growing there numbers each cycles but it insure minimum casualties they know more or less how an organic civilization is going to grow and they assimilate unique tech an organic civilization made. this strategy nearly flawless since we know that maybe a few than dozens reapers died during millions of years and there are armadas of them.
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I don't have a problem with the religious undertones. All Sci-Fi borrows from some something.
Fair enough
Right, like Dragon Age and the 'Maker'.
And religions borrow from myths
I think i prefer the endings and the motives of the reapers we actually got in 3 over the orginal version
but man those concepts are wild
the humanity have to sacrifice ourselves to save the galaxy because our dna is special kinda sounds like the plot of a so bad its actually good sci fi movie from the 1950s
you know movies like Plan 9 they came from outer space levels of so bad its good
Yeah this original ending would’ve been wild & kinda hilarious, glad they didn’t go with it personally
@@EndymionTv tbh the original ending would be a huge plot hole and present tons of questions of why humanity has that special DNA and why that DNA stops dark energy. It sounds like bad fanfic.
IMO the foal of the Reapers should have been to avert some universe-ending cataclysm, a cataclysm brought by a new technology that the council races are starting to experiment on and that would allow better FTL travel without using the relays. The Reapers created the relays to offer an alternative to this forbidden technology, and as soon as a civilization starts to research on it they come and erase them. The revelation at the end will be that this technology, used to build the crucible, is also the best way to defeat the reapers.
makes more sense by far than what we actually got
This is more or less where I thought the games were going. The other possibility I thought was maybe the reapers were using biological life to run studies on dark matter/dark energy. Since they are immortal, they would want to think long term, which may involve trying to prevent entropy. Once they get the data they need, they wipe our the races and start over, under the idea that if they can figure out how to control dark energy, they could prevent entropy.
Honestly I think the dark energy concept is really cool, wish they would revisit it in the future sometime. Thank you for watching 🤙🏼🔥
Also andromeda have a dark energy problem too the scourge. And yeah the scourge is dark energy
Yep this is true
What!?
I'm kind of glad they didn't go with that ending. It's a franchise ending suicide pact.
The ending we got was trash
A franchise that gave us Andromeda didn't deserve to live past its third instalment.
I really wish that they explored Dark Energy more in 3, the way it stands it's like proto- biotics more than anything else. They dropped so many hints at there being a greater threat than the Reaper invasion in the first two games that they just dropped in 3. Lots of wasted potential there, but there's hope that they'll play around with the idea in the new game(s).
Also adding to the religious undertones, Tali's suit was designed to look like the Virgin Mary, with the hood and wrapped fabric. Sooooo.....her hips were our salvation all along?
What threat are you talking about? I’m interested! And Tali does look like the Virgin Mary lol what! I didn’t even notice 😂
,, her hips were our salvation all along"
Amen to that brother
I went to Catholic school for 15 years and Mass Effect's religious tones were very obvious to me when the games first came out when I was in High School. Helped me remember some shit for my religion tests lmao
That’s wild! I went to a public school and I didn’t start reading about anything religious til much later so it went right over my head
I remember Mordan makinh a comment about how humans make the worst test subjects because their are too many genetic variables. That could've played into the original ending.
Probably yes 😬 then Drew K left and they changed it lol
It's actually the opposite, humans make the best test subjects because of they diverse genetics that why the salarians guy that tried to cure the genophage use more humans than krogans
They clearly kept some of the details of the humans DNA being the key with the synthesis ending, while they didn't fully explained it.
Remember that the Starchild said that they tried the same solution and it didn't work and that this time it will and Shepard adding his essence to the Crucible did indeed connect the organic and synthetics into one
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No, the first astronaut was Yuri Gagarin. Alan Shepard was the first American astronaut.
He said astronaut, not first human in space. Gagarin was the first human and cosmonaut in space (that we know of)
Genuinely love all your whacky theories and thoughts. I think you come up with some very unique and interesting ideas. Keep up the good work mate!
Thank you for the kind words & thanks for watching 🤘🏻😂
MrHulthen covered this a bit a few months back. Reapers harvesting the galaxy was 2 fold, 1 being to stop organics from using dark energy and 2 being that they would store a species collective knowledge in their new reapers to see if they could find a solution to the dark energy problem. The reapers basically weren't evil, but twisted unsung heroes.
Also IIRC he mentioned a 3rd possible ending where Shepard would somehow broker peace with the reapers, so the galaxy and the reapers could find a solution together without sacrificing humanity. It would have of course revolved around humanity being the key to stopping dark energy.
The Canon plot we did get of synthetics rebelling against organics is immediately shot down if you made peace between the geth and quarians and also Joker banging EDI
Ok, I have to make it clear, Drew Karpishin's ideas were very vague and weren't as fleshed out. There was no Crucible in mind back then, it's an ME3 plot device, as well as no Andromeda and certainly no religious ideas behind the plot. I really like the concept of Dark Energy, it makes so much more sense, than synthetics killing organics to prevent them from being killed by other synthetics. I also don't have a problem with human race being essential to resolve the conflict, cause after all we are playing as a human through the entire series. I just thin, BioWare would need to come up with something more than another Deus Ex Machina known as Crucible, that is very convinient. Remember, what the original idea behind the Reapers was, they weren't supposed to be beaten by conventional means.
I remember Casey Hudson being asked in an interview like way way back before ME3 came out and the interviewer asked if the Reaper’s will be defeated by like a device that turns them off and he’s like no lol okay well that’s what happened
I don't think it has to do with religion. If I remember correctly, Mordin said in 2 (about the plague on Omega maybe) that humans are good test subjects because there are so many unique genetic variants in our dna (such as race, gender, hair/eye color, etc.) but thats just my opinion.
I have a problem with that idea that we were all wiped out by the dark energy, and it’s an area I would have liked to see a return to the sun in question in me4 -5. We know from the catalyst that the harvest was an experiment and solution to a problem of organics and ai, but what is not said is what that problem was we assumed it was the leviathan and every cycles inability to coexist with ai life, Little is made of the reason why humanity reaper is unique a pronto reaper, nor is it explained what the reapers were doing on dark space in between the 50 thousand years , we assumed that the leviathan was the first but what if they were not alone a multitude of races existing at the same time, some organic that past to other systems in the cosmos to a naturally occurring ai life that was made from silicon based . We assumed that the dark energy build up was reaper based but what if it was a first wave from one of the oldest races returning, it’s star gate /mass relay if you will. The reaper said we are millions others older and that humanity was ants in comparison, there has to be other races that were not harvested, this could explain why th3 collectors were I still actively looking in the omega 4 relay and why there were new prothean husks not just copies (as copies genetic should have started to break down being just clones as time went on there’s a lot of cycles in 50 thousand years as Javick said by his time the prothean empire had fragmented and lost touch with each over , there still could be prothean as well as older races such as the enosamon still out there with different motives or ambitions given there advancement the reaper codex held in each corpse gave the existing races a window into the technology as well as potential threats still out there , the question is if the races are so advanced to existing why would they need to have an ambassador. We are not alone and the return of the Normandy is a big clue for all
Man I really like your theories especially the one with Dark Emergy and the real motivation from reapers, now everything makes sense why they doin what they doin^^ I hope the next mass effect explores this storyline further cause its a real strong Plotline.... Keep going bro and do some more theory videos about the next mass effect 💪
Thank you and thanks for watching 🤘🏻🔥
"I am Legion, for we are many"
I dont see what's so weird about the religious undertones. Its not the greatest story ever told for no reason. Its in almost every game or movie. With the themes, ideas ect. It serves as a foundation.
Look at halo for example, or other major games or movies.
Has anyone used this idea for a fanfic yet? I'd love to read that.
As a Christian all be it a not very knowledgeable one I picked up on some but not very many ideas from the biblical and possibly other ideas in their.
But now that I see them pointed out they do seem very cool. All though I think ME3 ditches the possibility of a God that we know to not exist. Halo did the same thing.
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing but I find it fascinating
Fair enough
No it doesn't....Me2 and Me3 go into the concept of the mystery of creation and the origin of organics over and over. Go back and watch Legions discourse on the origin of organics and the difference between organics and synthetics....we don't personally know our creator!!! They do!!!
It was quite obvious by the end of ME³ that we were supposed to get a different set of endings, which would make all this religious stuff connect. Not sure if that'd be better.
One of the writes also said: Shepard is a space Jesus.
Did you guys not get it when we had to do Paragon/Renegade choices??? LMAO
Yeah there’s a lot of things staring at us right in the face, that’s what makes it so interesting
Ugh...It's okay to keep a story simple. Leviathans created reapers. Reapers turn against them and began terminating all organic life when it reaches a certain point. All the races unite together to stop the reapers. No half formulated shock twist that came out of nowhere like reapers being the true heroes of the series or the catalyst. The end, It's that simple.
Never said I didn’t like the original ending, I find the religious stuff hilarious though, mostly cause I didn’t even notice most of it myself 😬
@@EndymionTv That was directed at both the dark energy and original ending. It just seems like the writers made the reapers villains then tried so hard to show that they weren't somehow the villains with a contrived unflushed out explanation that came out of nowhere and pretty much subverted what was established of them in the first two games.
I cant believe you made a mass effect lore video
I’m just so bored of humans being treated as ”special” and the saviors. It’s just very unoriginal.
Probably why they didn’t go with it
But it's based
I just restarted ME1 and it all makes sense now
🤙🏼🔥 ayyyyeeee enjoy
I noticed the religious undertones on my first playthrough and don't find them disturbing at all even though I'm not religious because they literally follow the hero's journey in the Bible and in all myths. The cringe is when people are disturbed by it
It's really not that weird for science fiction/fantasy of epic scale to have a bunch of religious references
Hey man just wanna say you're awesome to listen to, especially on deployment. I mean I love Dragon Age and Mass Effect lore, and kicking your theories in the background in pretty awesome. Love those games. One request, and not sure if you touched it, but there was a planet in ME1 that when you click it it mentions structures that faded into the abyss of it's planet as soon as they were found. Do you remember that? Or did you make a vid talking about that? Sorry that just always made me think what were they lol
Thank you so much! And I hope you’re safe wherever you’re deployed. Can’t believe someone in the army listens to me 😂😤
And what planet? I don’t think I’ve heard of this. I may have to research it. If you remember what it is please comment and let me know so I can dig deeper. Thank you for listening, be safe! 🤘🏻🔥
@@EndymionTv haha I'm actually in the Navy. But no worries. Yeah there was a planet in ME1 that mentioned it was probed or something but that the structures they found subsided. I always wondered about it. I'll try to find it.
Btw A+ on your lore vids. Even the ones you speculate on. They're a great background and actually make me wonder too at times 😊. Anyway I'll try and find that planet.
@@EndymionTv found it. Check out Logan right next to Feros in that system. "many remarkably large solid objects were present beneath the cloud tops. As the ships approached, however, they subsided one by one. These disturbances have not been reported again". Makes you wonder.
Getting inspired by an almost inmortal stories isn't cringe, they're condensed occurrences through the life of people and guidance, laws, order in the chaos.
Yup I regret that part of this vid but ah well it’s there now forever. I got a new vid diving into the religious context of Mass Effect now & the sequel to it is coming out tomorrow.
But I get ya 🤙🏼
This is some Evangelion stuff
Literally no one:
BioWare: SPACE JESUS!!!!
He is the SHEPARD for a reason. Also yes it’s named after the astronaut but still SHEPARD
There's more Religious tones I didn't think it was a Secret. ME1 talks about beings of Light. Ashley conversations. Club is called Purgatory. Lol
Isn't it obvious along with already mentioned points
Wow, this changes Mass Effect 2. I always felt that it was a filler story and that it really didn't have any impact on the rest of the series as much as the other two games, but this human reaper and The ideas you present truly give it way more context and make it seem way more significant in the narrative
Well done, well done indeed. You earned my subscription
Thank you for watching 🤘🏻🔥
Hasn't the writer for the first 2 ever been approached for him to confirm where it was going?
I really like this idea. It's strange and mind bending. I do think it's a bit strange though, like why would humanity be so special? Why not turians, or krogan? It smells a bit too... special, like over privileged. I know that sounds funny, considering that it's the dubious honor of getting pulverized into world saving dust, but even still, with this amount of explanation it could just as well have been the drell.
In fact it makes no sense from a scientific pov.
If we're really taking dna mutations rate as our reference then the Krogans will most likely cover this aspect since they can make 1k eggs at every reproduction and their planet is extremely dangerous.
Or what about the Asaris? Aliens living 1k years, native biotic powers and capable to reproduce with other species. They wouldn't have a special dna?
In fact ME lacks many scientific basis, they really went too far, especially with the races.
Wouldn't have made a lot of sense this way. I mean why would you leave mass effect technology behind if you don't want anyone to use it?
Also DNA or human essence clears dark matter? That seems very dumb.
Sounds like some brainstorming ideas someone came up with, that got tossed out instantly
Yeah basically. It wasn’t fully explored but that was the original pitch at the brainstorming stage anyways. It would’ve made humans basically the chosen race to save them all. I’m glad they didn’t go with it tho but it’s still fun to explore. Thanks for watching
@@EndymionTv I like the dark matter idea tho, if they had come up with a better reason for the problem and a different resolution, it could have been very solid, maybe better than what we got.
Lol wait so... the Reapers are just Eco Terrorists trying to stop Universal Darkening?
Originally yeah! Lol
My best friend who introduced me to Mass effect was Pagan. He constantly mentioned how strange it was that Mass effect was tied to so many religious aspects of Christianity. So you're definitely not wrong
The apostles thing with ME2 still makes me laugh cause it’s so crazy
@@EndymionTv I did find this fascinating how much religion played behind the scenes in Mass effect, I'm not much religious either, but it does show that even in a Sci-Fi futuristic game, it's no surprise that's one thing that would show up
Is trippy my dude
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@@EndymionTv wow really
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Damn, now I wouldn't be opposed to a reboot.
Ayyyyeee thanks for watching! 🤙🏼😬
I'm so glad that this ending didn't come to pass.
Should have kept the Dark energy subplot excluding the absurd humanity sacrifice. You can always weave your way around that. The "synthetic and organic will always go on war" never was established throughout the trilogy, felt like it came out of nowhere. Even relating it with the real world, such a theme is out of question, as a synthetic being cannot ever be living. Should have simply left the reapers as being indoctrinating killing machine, a dense deep space virus maybe.
...it's the goddamn Spiral Nemesis from TTGL!
this is a small thing, but the first astronaut Yuri Gagarin
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Mass Effect reboot is perfectly possible if everything in 2 & 3 is just a comatose Shepard dream.
Read Matthew 13:24-30 Emphasis on verse 30 (You're welcome. 😉lol)
I'm more weirded out by your 12 yr-old mentality in your reaction to this...
I'd rather have had something alone the lines of what was originally planned than what we ended up with. And biblical allegories in sci-fi are nothing new. What is your problem with all this? Japanese games have done far stranger things.
What a stupid story