He definitely needs a shift nerf. Every other character has a limit, this makes triple support Jeff/Luna combo viable since he can sustain himself with flanks and harass the backline.
@@GamingLovesJohn Don’t think he needs a Nerf at all. Is shift his healing bubbles on PC? If so I really disagree. He’s the worst healer by far. He’s just a hybrid DPS flanker mixed with mediocre healing. Take away his self heals and he’s completely useless
I just picked Jeff up and decided to look up some guides. You were right at the top and I'm super glad! Made MVP twice already and am crushing it with him atm. Thanks for all the fun vids and assistance man. 😀
7:09 hard agree with Ninja on this. So many games we’ll lose by 1 or 2 metres because we only had two people on payload. While the rest of the team are just running out of distance when the other team is team wiped for another 6 seconds. Added context because people don’t understand for some reason. Enemy team is staggered for 10 seconds. So we will be very close to next checkpoint and team will go take space that is past the checkpoint. The one that it happens A LOT on is spider islands, second checkpoint. We’ll be rounding the second last loop and only two of us will be pushing the cart and they go in that area in front of the checkpoint while the enemy team is still dead, even though with 3 or 4 people we could easily make it to the next checkpoint before the enemy team get there, allowing the taking of the most space since spawn points move. But people will be jumping around after a successful battle and not stand on the payload and then we are like 2 metres off the checkpoint by the time the enemy team get there, they contest it, get ults, beat us, we lose. So many times this has happened and the situation would have been avoided by having another person on the payload to make it go faster. I’m not sure if it is 3 or 4 people making it go max speed but it’s one of those two. And i’m not saying all 6 team members have to be on the payload. Because that doesn’t do anything more than the max speed.
@@WhatIsTheHeat Nah he’s wrong there. You need to create space. The payload moves on its own. If you’re controlling a choke point infront of payload they can’t contest until they push you back. That means a fight that would normally slow the payload is creating space for it to move freely
@ Did you read what I said past the first statement. So many times we win the fight and if 4 people on my team get on payload we easily get the checkpoint but nope, they’re just far away that they aren’t pushing it or they are going off to nowhere land. Then the next team fight happens when we are 1m off the checkpoint and then we lose. Don’t need to take space when they are staggered and we can easily get point. If you didn’t know. Getting next checkpoint moves your spawn up and their spawn back, basically achieving the same time
@@WhatIsTheHeat Respectfully, your comment needed more context. If you’re playing with people who aren’t even controlling chokes then yeah they should get on payload. But it’s still better to be pushing ahead to create space for the payload than to have 6 people riding it and letting the other team take space
The fastest speed the payload can go is achieved when you have 3 people on it, so having more than that is pointless. If your team burns a bunch of ults to win the payload, you don't want to just sit on it and wait for six enemies with ults to come back and stomp you, so most of your team should push up and pressure the enemy to try and get a couple of picks to offset that ultimate advantage (unless you're very close to capping in which case having 3 is a good idea).
@@creativeusername3408i don't like ninja but he is correct, you should not be pushing so far ahead. Your just asking to feed them free kills and give them an opening to take point. Plus someone can just sneak around and contest it while your fighting at their spawn. Pretty much defeating the entire purpose your trying to hold them at spawn. Your response is from a bronze perspective.
LITERALLY watched this live and told my friend "Lol it's rivenspeedruns, the one trick jeff" Such a funny match watching it happen live from ninja perspective.
I just started playing Jeff recently and I must be doing something right because I've had matches where I'm like "I feel like I'm not doing enough" then I have people saying stuff like "Dude, I love this Jeff. Like he's doing great" and I'll feel like I'm not healing much and end up with twice the healing of the other support.
I love your Jeff gameplay I’m a Jeff only player and came up with some clutch gameplay with my movement I try my best to get Jeff out there on my yt videos with the plays I make but Jeff still don’t get enough love he still counts as a low tear for most ppl 😢 if we can have more ppl like u and me posting on our yt more about Jeff with the gameplays we most definitely can get him top problem im most matches
Nice one man, when the game first launched I always went for jeff and got him as lord first, now because people keep complaining it's a troll pick I just avoid to pick him and play groot alot. Do you have any thoughts on how they can maybe make jeff better? Or should I just ignore it all and go for it since he's more of a dps healer anyways.
The key for this is to just kill the cloak or wait for them to use an invisibility to a different ability, there’s nothing that Jeff can do outside of getting cloak to 1 hp and scaring them to use it as an escape instead
I didn’t know that Adam Warlock can get out of Jeff ult until someone did it to me. So does that mean that Mantis is the only hero with zero tool to get out of the ult? Also what are your opinions on Jeff’s self stun when he misses his ult? I feel like it’s really not needed since you have to put yourself so out of position and it gets countered by cloak 9/10 times.
Look at how aggressive this Jeff is bruh my Jeff be hiding behind a corner running away the whole match and only healing. I know i hate playing against ans aggressive jeff
If you dont do damage as jeff, I feel like you lose more. If you just healbot, your just giving ult charge. Not saying you should not heal, just saying its a balance you need to find.
So do you get your editor or do you physically go to the other streamers streams to record them on obs when you go against them marvels content is so weird
Love when people shout Jeff 1hp. As if he won’t be full health again in half a second
Bro it's so annoying I swear when you think you're gonna kill him he just goes back up so fast 😭
@ Immortal fish boy
He definitely needs a shift nerf. Every other character has a limit, this makes triple support Jeff/Luna combo viable since he can sustain himself with flanks and harass the backline.
@@GamingLovesJohn Don’t think he needs a Nerf at all. Is shift his healing bubbles on PC? If so I really disagree.
He’s the worst healer by far. He’s just a hybrid DPS flanker mixed with mediocre healing. Take away his self heals and he’s completely useless
regens all his wounds like he’s fucking deadpool 😂
4:35 the head bobs are so relatable lol
I just picked Jeff up and decided to look up some guides. You were right at the top and I'm super glad! Made MVP twice already and am crushing it with him atm. Thanks for all the fun vids and assistance man. 😀
7:09 hard agree with Ninja on this. So many games we’ll lose by 1 or 2 metres because we only had two people on payload. While the rest of the team are just running out of distance when the other team is team wiped for another 6 seconds.
Added context because people don’t understand for some reason. Enemy team is staggered for 10 seconds. So we will be very close to next checkpoint and team will go take space that is past the checkpoint. The one that it happens A LOT on is spider islands, second checkpoint. We’ll be rounding the second last loop and only two of us will be pushing the cart and they go in that area in front of the checkpoint while the enemy team is still dead, even though with 3 or 4 people we could easily make it to the next checkpoint before the enemy team get there, allowing the taking of the most space since spawn points move. But people will be jumping around after a successful battle and not stand on the payload and then we are like 2 metres off the checkpoint by the time the enemy team get there, they contest it, get ults, beat us, we lose. So many times this has happened and the situation would have been avoided by having another person on the payload to make it go faster.
I’m not sure if it is 3 or 4 people making it go max speed but it’s one of those two. And i’m not saying all 6 team members have to be on the payload. Because that doesn’t do anything more than the max speed.
@@WhatIsTheHeat Nah he’s wrong there. You need to create space. The payload moves on its own.
If you’re controlling a choke point infront of payload they can’t contest until they push you back. That means a fight that would normally slow the payload is creating space for it to move freely
@ Did you read what I said past the first statement. So many times we win the fight and if 4 people on my team get on payload we easily get the checkpoint but nope, they’re just far away that they aren’t pushing it or they are going off to nowhere land. Then the next team fight happens when we are 1m off the checkpoint and then we lose. Don’t need to take space when they are staggered and we can easily get point. If you didn’t know. Getting next checkpoint moves your spawn up and their spawn back, basically achieving the same time
@@WhatIsTheHeat Respectfully, your comment needed more context. If you’re playing with people who aren’t even controlling chokes then yeah they should get on payload.
But it’s still better to be pushing ahead to create space for the payload than to have 6 people riding it and letting the other team take space
The fastest speed the payload can go is achieved when you have 3 people on it, so having more than that is pointless. If your team burns a bunch of ults to win the payload, you don't want to just sit on it and wait for six enemies with ults to come back and stomp you, so most of your team should push up and pressure the enemy to try and get a couple of picks to offset that ultimate advantage (unless you're very close to capping in which case having 3 is a good idea).
@@creativeusername3408i don't like ninja but he is correct, you should not be pushing so far ahead. Your just asking to feed them free kills and give them an opening to take point. Plus someone can just sneak around and contest it while your fighting at their spawn. Pretty much defeating the entire purpose your trying to hold them at spawn. Your response is from a bronze perspective.
Hell yeah!!! As a Jeff main
I love this video!🎉 GJ dude!
No way ninja said that the jeff is carrying that's the best compliment you could ever receive lol
must be humiliating being owned by a pet shark
Jeff vs the avengers happened btw. He’s too lore accurate
3:53 this interaction is too funny bro 💀
So this is the play style that my opponent Jeff learned, no wonder dude's flanking all the time, while his teammates are all dying all game.
LITERALLY watched this live and told my friend "Lol it's rivenspeedruns, the one trick jeff"
Such a funny match watching it happen live from ninja perspective.
3:25 "Jamman, i'm throwing" - quickly becoming Riven's catchphrase XD
You played super well. Good video also!
You know you are a good jeff when even the enemey compliments you, and get pissed at you staying alive.
Riven representing every Jeff main. Love the hype!
I just started playing Jeff recently and I must be doing something right because I've had matches where I'm like "I feel like I'm not doing enough" then I have people saying stuff like "Dude, I love this Jeff. Like he's doing great" and I'll feel like I'm not healing much and end up with twice the healing of the other support.
Boi trying to dive irl when he dives ingame 😂😂🎉
Playing Jeff like a drive-by tank is wild! Eating damage and the other teams will to win!
Saw it live. Was pumped for you Riven. Nice job.
9:12 perfect spitters are quitters moment
I love your Jeff gameplay I’m a Jeff only player and came up with some clutch gameplay with my movement I try my best to get Jeff out there on my yt videos with the plays I make but Jeff still don’t get enough love he still counts as a low tear for most ppl 😢 if we can have more ppl like u and me posting on our yt more about Jeff with the gameplays we most definitely can get him top problem im most matches
“Rank 1 Jeff” Made my day xD
Love seeing content creators vs content creators
I would recommend looking down when you spit people of the map as it will stop them from jumping back up
He seems to do that every time no?
“Rank 1 Jeff”😂
Nice video. I wouldn’t mind seeing more of the full gameplay instead of editing out all the healing.
Nice one man, when the game first launched I always went for jeff and got him as lord first, now because people keep complaining it's a troll pick I just avoid to pick him and play groot alot.
Do you have any thoughts on how they can maybe make jeff better? Or should I just ignore it all and go for it since he's more of a dps healer anyways.
Hahaha love this ❤ ninja jeff is literally carrying there entire team 😂😂😂
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how is ninja GM, from what ive seen he plays like an easy difficulty bot
his frnds boost him
Bro is a dips jeff
Any tips and tricks for Jeff that you can teach
this dude look like his main
So on Jeff, when you want to ult, how do you make Cloak spend his invulnerability so that the ult isn't wasted?
The key for this is to just kill the cloak or wait for them to use an invisibility to a different ability, there’s nothing that Jeff can do outside of getting cloak to 1 hp and scaring them to use it as an escape instead
what a shit healer. you force your team to struggle so you look good. matching with you would be a sucky game.
I didn’t know that Adam Warlock can get out of Jeff ult until someone did it to me. So does that mean that Mantis is the only hero with zero tool to get out of the ult?
Also what are your opinions on Jeff’s self stun when he misses his ult? I feel like it’s really not needed since you have to put yourself so out of position and it gets countered by cloak 9/10 times.
Lord jeff that's scary stuff
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Any tips on what to do with Jeff ult on klyntar/Venom map?
I think on one of his streams he said if there’s no ledge just grab an enemy support and throw them to your team
@ oh ok thanks
@@roydaboy27or both/one tank and throw them all the way back. Since magneto, strange, groot all have to slowly walk back.
@@roydaboy27 Can confirm, Throw the support and not a vanguard. I accidentally gave a Peni Parker a ticket to our backline once.
thank you for the video jeff above all
Look at how aggressive this Jeff is bruh my Jeff be hiding behind a corner running away the whole match and only healing. I know i hate playing against ans aggressive jeff
What rank was this?
god ninja is insufferable. hes always the one doing everything yet nothing is ever his fault. he cant have it both ways.
Is your name destiny 2 related? Just curious
Yeah it is!
When I play dps jeff people just flame me for never healing despite me actually healing more than you damage
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1:28 Dude couldve just pressed q 💀
(Mb this aint the clip of the most recent Live.)
Congrats
my goat 🗣
Ninja is so bad at CnD he doesn’t dark wall then dps when he is in cloak.. I guess you don’t need a 20% dps increase
Jeff 💙
i remember avoiding u in season 0 cause of how awful u were
Man I’d hate to b on your team. All you do is self heal.
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I can't take Ninjas whiny baby ass attitude. Holy shit he's unbearable. Good vid though 😊
Tbf Rivals brings out the worst out of you
Just came here to say, i like your vids but seeing anything with Ninja makes me not wanna watch the video. Have a nice day.
It’s ninja getting owned so that makes it bearable for me
@Finn-wc8nq all i see is an unfunny dude complaining in unbearable ways every video he's featured in
Hell yeah! Make them nerf this hero!!! 🙏🙏🙏
So much throws in this one bro, like please i see your tanks at low hp JUST HEAL THEM CRO STOP BEING GREEDY...
If you dont do damage as jeff, I feel like you lose more. If you just healbot, your just giving ult charge. Not saying you should not heal, just saying its a balance you need to find.
So do you get your editor or do you physically go to the other streamers streams to record them on obs when you go against them marvels content is so weird
I’m WAY to poor to be having an editor, I do it all myself and record their vods