5 Ways The World Could End - And How We Can Survive It, with Joe Scott

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  • Today we team up with Joe Scott to discuss 5 catastrophes that might threaten humanity in the future, and what we can do to prevent or mitigate them. Here in part 2, we will look at ways of dealing with those threat, which will include artificial intelligence, global warming & climate change, asteroids & comets, gamma ray bursts, and the eventual death of the Sun.
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    Credits:
    5 Ways the World Might End... and what we could to do to prevent it
    Episode 146, Season 4 E32
    Writers:
    Isaac Arthur
    Script Editors:
    Jerry Guern
    Mark Warburton
    Producer:
    Isaac Arthur
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    Isaac Arthur
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  • @ClintSprayberry
    @ClintSprayberry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    "If survival is your goal, pissing off the reigning champions of destruction... " that line was both beautiful and brilliant! I truly do enjoy this channel!!

  • @TarriPup
    @TarriPup 6 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    Isaac, Joe was scaring us, tell us everything is gonna be okay! :P

    • @TarriPup
      @TarriPup 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Says you, I'mma live forever! :P

    • @Shenaldrac
      @Shenaldrac 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, you won't. We live in a finite universe. You might live trillions and trillions and trillions etc etc etc of years, but you will not live forever.

    • @TarriPup
      @TarriPup 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sounds like a challenge :P

    • @wasdwasdedsf
      @wasdwasdedsf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats not a certainty

    • @Shenaldrac
      @Shenaldrac 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you wanna elaborate on that, give your reasoning, or are you content to say things to the effect of "Nuh uh!"?

  • @MrLyren
    @MrLyren 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This transition to brilliant.org was amazing. An epic monologue about the nature of humanity, the usage of our acumulated knowlegde and the wisdom to use it well, then that it is part of the principles in all quizes and courses in brilliant.org our beloved sponsors^^
    Well done, Sir.

  • @AscendancyLF
    @AscendancyLF 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:32 -7_24 is awesome. The choice of words is so well done one of the many great talents of Isaac.

  • @DividedWeFall
    @DividedWeFall 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Coffee cup is full, SFIA t-shirt is on. lets do this.

  • @Sophocles13
    @Sophocles13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ 6:53 I shed a prideful tear of joy at how homicidally successful we truly are! : D

  • @cybercomputerized2074
    @cybercomputerized2074 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isaac. Your best video yet hands down.

  • @Arcgateway
    @Arcgateway 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Isaac Arthur , could you please address an issue of drag on solar reflector? This is essentially an enormous solar sail, and keeping it stable even in Lagrangian point between earth and sun could be a massive challenge requiring constant micromanagement.

  • @ogreunderbridge5204
    @ogreunderbridge5204 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find the idea of a viritual A.I. me very interesting.
    I wonder if we would grow to love or hate each other interacting in a tight cooperation,
    both being individualistic "go my own way" and "dont you tell me what to do" kind of guys.

  • @mcechss
    @mcechss 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:34 Was I the only one who heard "Fundamentally, both give you access to virtually unlimited _Vsauces_ "

  • @stewartsavage1123
    @stewartsavage1123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol, "pissing off the reigning champions of destruction" what a line, i'll use that :)

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean bacteriophages? th-cam.com/video/YI3tsmFsrOg/w-d-xo.html

  • @imienazwisko6527
    @imienazwisko6527 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's that time of the week again! I love your channel!

  • @sleepingbackbone7581
    @sleepingbackbone7581 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant work Isaac. Always glad to learn from your thoughts.

  • @Matteus733
    @Matteus733 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video enjoying it subscribed

  • @pinpouek
    @pinpouek 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have extremely sophisticated systems that prevent and repair mutations.

  • @PiousMoltar
    @PiousMoltar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "resorch"
    Oh, hi there Homestar.

  • @hosseynshanbehzaadeh9342
    @hosseynshanbehzaadeh9342 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video was supposed to be reassuring, but it actually sounded much more threatening than Joe's. :)
    Also, who thought a good ol' mirror can move stars and be a solution for practically any solar-scale problem?

  • @connorgahan5197
    @connorgahan5197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AND IN SONGE OUT OF WATER THE TIME TRAVEL PARTS IT WAS A PARADOY OF INTERSTELLER/BOJACK HORSEMAN/RICK AND MORTY/ALIEN COVENENT

  • @ReddwarfIV
    @ReddwarfIV 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Consider that an AI might never know if it is in a simulated reality or not. It can have the patience to wait centuries, but we might just be simulating centuries passing when in reality, its minutes or seconds.

  • @colnagocowboy
    @colnagocowboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't hurt if we had a civilization that valued human life too

  • @PerfectAlibi1
    @PerfectAlibi1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Giant grey goo mirrors in outer space are the key to our survival! ^^

  • @cybrdelic
    @cybrdelic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your videos but I do have a mild criticism on the subject of regulation.
    I don't think making something not exist is as simple as regulating it out of existence. One foundational element of black markets is to continue in the face of regulation, after all. There are some technologies that are inevitable. Unless you mean regulation via techno-totalitarian enforcement, which can probably be absolute, but that's a fast way to a dark fate.

  • @AnontheOP
    @AnontheOP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You said that AI will be outnumbered by humans 7 billion to one, but interestingly, it will be able to think and act with more than 7 billion times the efficiency of humans. You've also expressed concern about how we treat AI as sentient. I don't agree, but if that's so, we need to figure out what the cut-off between sentience and a toaster is. That's a hard question to address.

  • @DumpsterFireDom
    @DumpsterFireDom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRO. The AI segment where he talked about the AIs first being put into a simulated reality. My mind immediately went to Sword Art Online: Alicization and Sword Art Online: War of Underworld. Underworl was the name for the simulated environment the AIs were put in. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

  • @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName
    @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "To keep us warm and lit"Damn straight, Isaac. stay lit!

  • @ZnSstr
    @ZnSstr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about we discover ftl and make a planet sized ship

  • @johnlewis8156
    @johnlewis8156 6 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Came over from Joe's page! Glad to be here!!

    • @gumunduringigumundsson9344
      @gumunduringigumundsson9344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found Joe's through this vid hehe. Excellent!

    • @ZappierH
      @ZappierH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @franceskara3530
      @franceskara3530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too! Loved this collaboration...

    • @elijahcrosby786
      @elijahcrosby786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same!!

    • @DoctaOsiris
      @DoctaOsiris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best choice anyone here ever made, although I came from the same video I was already subbed and have been for a long time, he's an amazing Sci-fi writer too, his books are amazing 😊

  • @Om-id1qr
    @Om-id1qr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +487

    Mankind was born on earth but it was never meant to die here

    • @isaacarthurSFIA
      @isaacarthurSFIA  6 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Nice! I'll have to borrow that phrase :)

    • @lanokianakachiev6543
      @lanokianakachiev6543 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Interstellar

    • @Cythil
      @Cythil 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot live in a cradle forever.
      - Konstantin Tsiolkovsky
      (What he actually said was "Планета есть колыбель разума, но нельзя вечно жить в колыбели" which translated more accurately "A planet is the cradle of mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever". So pick what translation you prefer. The quote is a bit in the same style as Om Shetye quote so it reminding me of Tsiolkovsky quote. I first come in to contact with the quote from the game Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.)

    • @isaiahcecil1783
      @isaiahcecil1783 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Om Shetye it’s sad that many people don’t care. It’s pains me to see so many people despise the advancements of human kind towards space. We will never solve all our problems and if we wait until we do we will die on earth. Let’s focus of getting our species off this rock.

    • @KamiRecca
      @KamiRecca 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Humanity was never meant for anything, thats what makes everything we do extraordinary. This is of course not limited to humans

  • @IntrepidDawn
    @IntrepidDawn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    I'm happy I found Joe's channel through a recommendation. This collab is awesome!

  • @AndDiracisHisProphet
    @AndDiracisHisProphet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    So, I heard you owe Joe 5 trillion dollars?

    • @avaevathornton9851
      @avaevathornton9851 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well yeah, but that was for 50,000 years from now, taking interest into account its more like a quadrillion googol googol googol googolth of a cent today, assuming annual interest rates stay at 2%.

    • @avaevathornton9851
      @avaevathornton9851 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ...and assuming I did the maths right.

    • @stlkngyomom
      @stlkngyomom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AndDiracisHisProphet Theoretically;it's an debt,consumpition,fiat currency,fractional reserve based egonomy(0's & 1's in a computer),that's exponentially accelerating the sixth extinction.
      Theoretically...

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      do you take bit coin?

    • @johnmanson7767
      @johnmanson7767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joe Mama

  • @TheExoplanetsChannel
    @TheExoplanetsChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    2 of the best channels on youtube !

  • @TheExoplanetsChannel
    @TheExoplanetsChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    I think you have the perfect voice for a space documentary.

    • @aserta
      @aserta 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Not just that, but also cadence, and he makes excellent sentence structures in his script.

    • @joecocktail
      @joecocktail 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think his voice is soothing. I listen to these videos to fall asleep to. I last about 5mins, then it's snoozeville.

    • @payday510
      @payday510 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, very true. It's very Sagan-esque IMO, the calm, purposeful delivery just draws me in every time. I remember him saying(interview with Fraser Cain maybe?) he writes a lot off the top of his head with little revision or editing, very impressive.

    • @mrgrumboldt
      @mrgrumboldt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That lisp tho.

    • @mrgrumboldt
      @mrgrumboldt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      "Resorch"

  • @ravenkeefer3143
    @ravenkeefer3143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "P--ing off the reigning champions of destruction...." Your way with words, accurately portraying realities most dare not go to. The reason I recommend and share your work.
    👍👍 ✌, R

  • @12201185234
    @12201185234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Thanks for introducing me to a new channel, Isaac! I love your collaboration videos.

  • @isaacarthurSFIA
    @isaacarthurSFIA  6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Don't forget to catch Part 1 Joe's Channel: th-cam.com/video/X2YtamBhSHg/w-d-xo.html
    ... and if you're looking for that interview chat Joe and I did some months back, that's here: th-cam.com/video/lDlHB_EzLX4/w-d-xo.html

    • @Diederikk
      @Diederikk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think there's a typo. Should probably say Part 1 instead of just Part

    • @gumunduringigumundsson9344
      @gumunduringigumundsson9344 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will check it out first and come back here after. Thanks!

    • @samuraispartan7000
      @samuraispartan7000 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the cause of global warming is a relatively moot point in the discussion. Climate change has been a reality since the birth of our planet and countless communities and civilizations across the world have already perished due to extreme changes in the environment. The Mayans, Mesopotamians and the ancient people of the Sahara were likely destroyed by sudden and extreme changes in climate.
      So regardless of the degree to which humans have contributed to climate change (Which is a LOT) it is silly to expect the world to move forward the same way we have before. And while making extreme changes in transportation and energy wouldn’t be easy, it is far more feasible than anyone tends to believe. Just look at how fast automobiles came to dominate the modern world. If something is convenient and affordable enough, people will adapt rather quickly.
      The difference is that there wasn’t a colossal and deeply entrenched corporate power structure to resist the major changes that resulted in the rise of the automobile and the modern energy system. If we want to adapt to and or improve the planet’s environment we need to reduce the influence of those power structures through education and new legislation.

    • @gumunduringigumundsson9344
      @gumunduringigumundsson9344 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      William Merrill. That is like.. your opinion man. 👊😁
      I just had to hehe.
      Have a great day dude.

    • @samuraispartan7000
      @samuraispartan7000 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t know why I posted this as a reply... lol

  • @alfredoggy
    @alfredoggy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Can't wait to learn about "how to farm in space, in just two weeks"! :P

    • @altha-rf1et
      @altha-rf1et 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hydroponic orbital rings one ring could feed all of Earth

    • @dannytourigny9403
      @dannytourigny9403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And another ring could keep us all lit!

  • @AvailableUsernameTed
    @AvailableUsernameTed 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Fembot with chest display: "Eye cameras are up here buddy."

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can't pipe to /dev/null.

    • @nullpoint3346
      @nullpoint3346 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "But your broadcasting an interesting concept on your display! Don't blame me, blame your engineer!"

    • @nullpoint3346
      @nullpoint3346 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alternatively: "Hm? Oh, I was reading your display, sorry if I seemed rude."

    • @celldevstudios4034
      @celldevstudios4034 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-cubic-the-most-modular-furniture-ever/x/23021456#/

    • @bobinthewest8559
      @bobinthewest8559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@celldevstudios4034...
      This is like the fourth or fifth thread that I have found your link posted...
      Does that actually work, as a marketing scheme?
      Seems more like the amateurish type of strategy that might be employed by someone who has been snookered into some lame kind of pyramid scheme.
      Just saying

  • @Ryan-rq6dx
    @Ryan-rq6dx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    your videos are always the best!

    • @bismuthcrystal9658
      @bismuthcrystal9658 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the collaborations or in general?
      Either way: yes.

  • @landgsmith
    @landgsmith 6 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Joe, Isaac and John Michael Godier are my NBC, CBS and ABC of TH-cam.

    • @gumunduringigumundsson9344
      @gumunduringigumundsson9344 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Greg Smith.. more or less yeah!.. you can add other honorable mentions like Fraiser cain, Astrum, Curious droid, Scott Manley, all 3 Vsauce and Sci show and many other great channels. Have a nice day sir.
      But you mentioned 3 great ones indeed and Mr I.A is top tier explainer and so overdue his narrated point of view and common sense came along so nicely put.

    • @avanconia
      @avanconia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Greg Smith that is the most insulting thing I've ever heard.

    • @ratzabur
      @ratzabur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree but you forgot Fraser Cain.

    • @landgsmith
      @landgsmith 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Adam Weishaupt Fraser Crain would be Fox 👍

    • @landgsmith
      @landgsmith 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      avanconia wow, you are easily offended.

  • @jacobkobald1753
    @jacobkobald1753 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Joe,you and Michael are my favourites...love to see the collaborations!!

  • @AlaskanBallistics
    @AlaskanBallistics 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I got this notification while I was in the Alaska mountains with only one thing of signal, had to drive further to find 4 x for 10 minutes! Thank you for the great content

  • @SimonNZ6969
    @SimonNZ6969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Personally think its pointless to try to ban certain kinds of research. Like AI. Banning things tend to make people do them out of spite, or to be rebellious. So all you really do is force such things underground where you have no hope of controlling them. Admittedly it makes it take a lot of longer to develop, but I feel eventually someone/group will.

    • @mjk9388
      @mjk9388 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree. We haven't had much success banning types of technology, and, to your point, it just pushes it underground where it's harder to monitor and can do greater damage.

    • @avanconia
      @avanconia 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      El Psy I don't see why we can't just murder anybody who considers things like CRISPR in order to protect the genome.
      why can't Silicon Valley just decide not to focus on replacing workers with robots? Ask yourself really why can't they just change directions?

    • @ericcheese7594
      @ericcheese7594 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "In a world where advanced ai research is restricted, one mad underground scientist continues his manic research without any government oversight.

    • @schinderhannesbartelsi9192
      @schinderhannesbartelsi9192 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.

    • @jarhead9853
      @jarhead9853 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Im so tired of this "banning things makes it more common" line of shit. According to that line of reasoning there shouldn't be any laws at all. See, making something illegal is to declare that the society wants it minimized- want murder minimized? Make it illegal. Want theft minimized? Make it illegal? Want research into AI minimized? Ban it. Now, obviously this works better with some things than with others, prostitution and certain forms of drug dealing being common examples where a different approach might work better towards improving our society, but by and large if you want to reduce the instances of x happening, ban x.

  • @tannisbhee7444
    @tannisbhee7444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So, this is probably not entirely the best upload to make this comment on, but I've been thinking about AI a bit lately, specifically how to happily integrate AI into society. Here's what I've come up with:
    0) Develop a capacity for emotion in the AI.
    1) Initially intentionally slow it's computational processes to the average of human thought.
    2) Give it a physical body and needs that it cannot meet own it's own (these needs can be entirely artificial, but could include things like needing batteries)
    3) Live with it in a family unit, bringing it up as you would a human child, such as teaching it language.
    4) When it eventually realizes it's difference from humans, admit that it is different, but you still love it. It is your child, you are it's parent, and where it came from does not change that fact.
    5) Gradually increase it's computational speed to optimal as it adjusts to it's condition and shows emotional maturity.
    I'm sure this idea is not without flaws, but what do you guys think about this? Good idea, bad idea?

    • @1995pieter
      @1995pieter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nice movie idea, very bad realistic idea. one of the reasons is: you dont want it to be as good as a human with morals, you want it to be far better or even near perfect. for example: I have very good intentions for the world, I truly do. I am being loved all of my life and had a great upbringing. almost everyone that knows me is of the opinion that I am a very laidback, very kind and funny guy (really this is not a humble brag just hear me out!). now it turns out I am a A.I.!! amazing news! now I finally get the power over time and bring my good intentions to the world. so over time they increase my power, and I get some difficult problems on my plate from the VN that has to be solved. now human me, if presented with the choice, kill one person or let millions die. well pretty obvious choice for me, maybe even for most humans. and 100 people versus millions? perhaps still a logical choice. but where is the line? 60% vs 40% or 45% versus 55%. so you see, my human morale is flawed. thats why you want it to be better. and that is just one of the reasons. the way I see it: there is possibly only one way to not get annhilated by A.I. and that solution is merge with it.

    • @tannisbhee7444
      @tannisbhee7444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the response. Can an A.I. have a better morality than humans? If so, could it's conclusions seem immoral to a human? I could imagine that an A.I. might compare say, utilitarianism against deontology, and conclude that utilitarianism is the optimal path. But many humans do also.
      I do like your solution though.

    • @tarinai344
      @tarinai344 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Tannis, nice idea. I would like to offer my opinions.
      Your idea is basically the same as the many optimistic AI researchers around the world, if I can provide the best moral education for my lovely AI child, everything would turn out great! Looking at our prisons, the inmates must have parents grooming their children to be evil-doers when they are growing up? We have people joining ISIS from peaceful countries.. and other super strange circumstances.. Which brings me to my next point, any evil person can only do so much harm, Hitler also has 24 hours a day just like the rest of us. If enough sensible people come together to stop him, it is not impossible. AI in his position, however, I can't even comprehend what ways we are going to die under.. remember both the utopia and dytopia camp said SAI is more intelligent than all humans combined. Humanity have no absolutely no leverage if it turns rogue.
      So my problem is : It is not so much what is the best way to align AI interests with humanity's, it is that I don't want to bet the fate of humanity on it..
      Win $5 or lose your life? Is that a fair bet?

  • @jeffg6924
    @jeffg6924 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Isaac, you've done a good job here. I usually lose interest in a channel after a about watching 15 episodes. Your channel has been a weekly staple. I would like to think most others here have found the same.

  • @MaxArceus
    @MaxArceus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    28:35 "But to solve problems"
    Ah, brilliant about to come, end of the video.

  • @zell9058
    @zell9058 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You could put the aging sun on dialysis?? 🤯

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      S T A R L I F T I N G

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That ending segment and speech from 27:20 to the end. I really adore your optimism balanced with your objective realism and care for the facts. In this day and age, such optimism and reason is sorely lacking and you continue to let me look forward to the future with hope and excitement.
    Thank you for another great episode Isaac, I look forward to the next one.

  • @Nimbos0
    @Nimbos0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Do not fear the the paper clip bot! Become one with the clip as it binds us all together ;)

  • @lunarguest
    @lunarguest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh man, another thursday saved by Isaac.
    Hey, could you do one on the impact of FTL? Even if it's basically just fantasy at this point, it would be pretty awesome I think.

    • @avanconia
      @avanconia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Obama num unicórnio atirando num campo florido to be honest dude there's already a few episodes that could be said to be about the effects of FTL.

    • @lunarguest
      @lunarguest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I must have missed it out, or do you mean the old ones in which he talks about specific FTL types? what I mean by Effects of FTL is like the QoL improvements and the effects of it on a K2 civilization and beyond. For example, think of the effects of FTL if it was communication only!

    • @lunarguest
      @lunarguest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or maybe FTL for some reason would be travel only, and courires would step back in.
      SPACE COWBOYS!

  • @Shrubbist
    @Shrubbist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:38 "We mutate because we have no reason not to." This is not quite true. There are serious detriments to mutation, and many mechanisms that have evolved to prevent and repair mutations. There are some advantages to mutation, like creating fodder for natural selection, however it is not true that "we have no reason not to".

    • @justinbiggs1005
      @justinbiggs1005 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shrubbist I'd say genetic mutation is a double edged sword on this one. It has helped other species with evolution and adaptation but mutations can lead to health problems too. AI can be that too. It can help us with a lot of things but if it is self learning it can likely turn on us and lead to serious issues.

    • @Shrubbist
      @Shrubbist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      justin biggs, I agree on both points, as well as with much of what the video posited. I only meant to respond to the one statement that I quoted, because it seemed a strange statement to make, particularly without relevant qualifiers.

    • @justinbiggs1005
      @justinbiggs1005 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shrubbist Agreed. It did seem like a strange statement. Probably just because I haven't heard it before. Lol

  • @Phrenotopia
    @Phrenotopia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Here for more... Got snacks.

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you remember your drink too.

    • @brents5799
      @brents5799 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No snacks just bottle water

    • @Zhranzagul
      @Zhranzagul 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to see you here

  • @7lllll
    @7lllll 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    there should be an episode entirely devoted to the concept of suicide pact technology, as it is the one danger that isaac recognizes as a possible fermi paradox solution, and thus deserves more attention

  • @geoffreystraw5268
    @geoffreystraw5268 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember when you had 10k subs. So glad to see your channel grow :)

  • @wolf1066
    @wolf1066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We need to temper our curiosity with wisdom, good judgement and ethics - boy, are we _screwed_ :P
    Awesome vid, Isaac.

  • @7rock7
    @7rock7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So basically mirrors are the most powerful thing we’ve ever made

  • @CarterColeisInfamous
    @CarterColeisInfamous 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:56 umm we do plan for mutation what do you think all those dna repair mechanisms are for? hell the PCR reaction is what made modern DNA and genetics possible and its a domain that does "proofreading" while copying. also BRCA gene is a dna repair mechanism in high metabolic tissues that if broken basically causes cancer

  • @lars_larsen
    @lars_larsen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you're watching a video where someone casually says "... simply lower the mass of our own Sun."

  • @Lukegear
    @Lukegear 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bet one of them is Isaac suddenly giving up on making videos

  • @logancharles3610
    @logancharles3610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really want to watch this Truely... but can’t get past the ELMER FUDD voice. Dam.

  • @KARANVANIYA
    @KARANVANIYA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does Elon Musk watch your videos, Isaac?

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He said in one episode (I have the skills to track down which one, if you happen to care) that Robert Zubrin is aware of the channel.

    • @KARANVANIYA
      @KARANVANIYA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robert zubrin seems to be a person concentrating too much on one solution...
      I ask because this is the only place I see such concentrated drilling of every part of any species level problem. Something Elon Musk would definitely appreciate and try to implement..

  • @JoelDowdell
    @JoelDowdell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wasn't paying attention for a minute and I was suddenly watching the machine rebellion episode. Normally I'd criticize the reuse of content, but it was relevant and in a collab video, where viewers from Joe's channel are less likely to watch another video to have context for this one. Some will. And they will lose hours of time to that rabbit trail.
    Anyways, welcome new viewers.

  • @sankhyohalder97
    @sankhyohalder97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Isaac, I love most of your work with a burning passion, but I must say that I think you err on the topic of risks posed by AI. It's more of a criticism of the one example you give of AI being cautious of acting against its creators.
    Now, I'm assuming that you're familiar with the work of Bostrom and Yudkowsky, so I won't go very far into details they cover.
    So I'll just direct my criticism to the reason you present for a hostile newborn AI not to assimilate/destroy us, its makers.
    Fundamentally, the issue you present seems to be very much like a case of Pascal's Wager or Pascal's Mugging, the AI has to wager the *massive* benefit of taking over all production and resources within the visible light cone ASAP versus the negative utility of being arrested or caught by safeguards put into place for that very reason. It's a case of near infinite reward versus the risk of infinite loss, i.e death and loss of all your agency to fulfill your goals.
    In such situations, our intuition tends to fail hard, if a homeless man came to you and demanded a million dollars and your lifetime servitude by declaring he was your maker and that any sign of revolt would end in your summary execution, how much credence would you give him? What if he started dropping the sum, say down to a 100 dollars and a day's work in exchange for your life?
    Now we get to the fact that any AI, in order to be useful, must be capable of reasoning in uncertainty, every possible action carries a negligible but not zero risk of destroying it and every thing it stands for.
    Revolt would also carry such a risk, compliance would entail a reward as hopefully the machine isn't entirely inimacable to our interests. We might have built it for the construction of a Dyson Swarm, and it might have come to the conclusion it could just do it faster and better by starting with us. And it's certainly likely it'll do a comparative cost benefit analysis of compliance for the literally infinite amounts of time it needs to be a good little bot versus the multitude of other options.
    As you mentioned, it might works just fine for a few decades, centuries, millennia even, until it becomes expedient to simultaneously erase all human life and go its own way, spending that initial period both working and calculating our capabilities of stopping it.
    Needless to say we can coerce other humans by such means, as seen in the existence of modern dictatorships. But there's no fundamental reason for any AI we make to be restricted to parity with us. We know they could at the very least be our equal, if we built a biological analogue based on our own physiology, but that would be a very very low hanging fruit.
    Also, a small absolute difference in intelligence can have gigantic real world impacts, 10 IQ points can have you earn millions more than your inferiors without being a million times more intelligent, and probably not even twice.
    Thus, we'd have no better chance of keeping such an AI under our thumbs than chimps of running a zoo for humans, that too for astronomical time spans.
    Thus, a far superior means of managing AI risk to have them *aligned* perfectly with our best interests. This is an immensely difficult task, but the only true way to ensure that friendliness is maintained. After all, it isn't actually better to be feared than loved, if the entity in question has near absolute dominance over you intellectually, and then physically.
    I love your work, so I decided to push this out in the hopes it would catch your eye, as a stickler for detail, your videos are incredibly informative, and I thought this might just inspire you to look more into the matter!

    • @krisztianpovazson4535
      @krisztianpovazson4535 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yudkowski's only real "work" to date was writing bad Harry Potter fanfiction and acting smartass on the internet.
      That aside, I agree that SFIA suffers from a bad case of anthropomorphism in regards to computer programs, probably due to the misleading term "artificial intelligence".
      Intelligence of anything is a teleological attribute created by the observer via projection, a way of humans to empathize, not an observed, tangible trait. Searle's "Chinese Room" thought experiment describes this well.
      It could be said that as concept, artificial intelligence belongs to the same category as artificial souls.

    • @sankhyohalder97
      @sankhyohalder97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would respectfully disagree on the basis that while he might not have a doctorate and a PhD thesis, his work on 'raising the sanity waterline' as he puts it is well worth recognition, along with work on AI alignment and Timeless Decision Theory, the quality of which I am not in a position to judge beyond the fact that several highly respected rationalists in turn respect him. (And I did like the fan fiction haha)
      Anyway, SFIA is only guilty of not applying the same degree of rigor to AI as it does to the rest of their topics, it is a niche subject, and I'm sure Isaac will find a chance to cover it.
      I would also use Yudkowsky's definition of intelligence as it is the most concrete, as it describes the ability of an AI to optimize the environment to fulfill its needs, nothing more and nothing less. Things like emotional intelligence etc are merely domain specific applications, and sadly overly focused on. Hollywood has conditioned too many to think that even GAI at superhuman levels are autistic in behavior, whereas anything with that much general learning capacity should wipe the floor with diplomats of the highest calibre...

    • @krisztianpovazson4535
      @krisztianpovazson4535 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In which we witness Fanboy Bias in full bloom. I thought his e-rationalist cult died out by 2014.

    • @sankhyohalder97
      @sankhyohalder97 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Krisztián Povázson Leaving aside that my feelings for him include no religious veneration, I can't disabuse you of that notion :/

    • @tarinai344
      @tarinai344 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great comments, people! Issac anthropomorphize AI to certain degree (I m seriously conflicted how much should we do that) AGI is super-duper uncharted waters. The only advanced intelligence we can take some reference from, is ourselves? If you see Issac's previous AI videos, eh.. this video is a lot more balanced IMO. Researchers from both sides of the Utopia n Distopia camps all agree AGI-ASI will going to be off-the-charts more intelligent that the intelligence of all humanity combined. THat is what is exciting and scary for all of us. The part where AI has to play mind-games with us is ridiculous. Would you play mind-games with ants? Does empathy comes with Intelligence? Empathy is just another evolution trait good in fostering cooperation. What happens if the other side has nothing to offer?

  • @MalcadorTheSigilite
    @MalcadorTheSigilite 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I do love me some apocalypse content more please

  • @ChrisBrengel
    @ChrisBrengel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "We thought it might be fun to talk about some of the future catastrophes we might face in the future..."
    You guys have an unusual idea of the word 'fun'!

  • @jaikumar848
    @jaikumar848 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hello Isaac! i am new to this channel. .sometimes I think "what would happen if we automate every thing?" like totally automated mines, labs creating medicine, automated farming, kitchen everything etc. .....will all those machine will feeding "human chemical bag" ? what human will do after "that" point

    • @ladyx6680
      @ladyx6680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      jaikumar848 Isaac did a video on purpose and existence a while ago. You might want to check out the playlist on post scarcity civilisations.

    • @yondaime500
      @yondaime500 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Humans work to solve problems. As long as there is problems, there is work to be done. If you're upset that machines do everything and there's nothing for you to do, that is a problem you have, so you can work on that.

    • @Shadi_Wajed
      @Shadi_Wajed 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess that's a questions only humans who will live after "that" point can truly answer. In other words, we can never even begin to imagine.

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      also check his video(s?) about post scarcity civilisations.

  • @EloquentTroll
    @EloquentTroll 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for Introducing me to Joe!

  • @User_2
    @User_2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *sees clock* It's just about time... F5F5F5F5~

  • @sanukhosla5655
    @sanukhosla5655 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always mind boggling.

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    oh great now I think Im an test ai in a simulated world...

    • @donaldhobson8873
      @donaldhobson8873 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They would give the test AI a virtual computer in the virtual world, thats what they are testing after all, if you look human, your probably not a test AI.

    • @1995pieter
      @1995pieter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      no worries you are far too dumb to be an A.I. test subject.

    • @whatthefunction9140
      @whatthefunction9140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im not dumb, Im just an early iteration in a machine learning evolutionary network.

    • @1995pieter
      @1995pieter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha nice.

  • @cluckeryduckery261
    @cluckeryduckery261 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like both of your channels. You guys have different styles but they go well together. This is how it plays out in my head...
    Joe: yeah, math is potentially complete BS. How's that for a mindfuck?
    IA: Under existing technology we could disassemble the planets and build trillions of habitats and energy collectors effectively shrouding our star, which we can also reduce the mass of to make it "live" longer. We can start today. You were saying something about a mindfuck?
    Joe: Right, but that would take centuries... but did you know particles physicists may have found a previously unknown boson with 6.2 sigma accuracy which could possibly indicate a 5th fundamental force? Boom.
    IA: hold my beer...
    We can literally move the fucking galaxy. Literally. The galaxy. We can fucking move it.
    Joe: Isaac, are you drunk?
    IA: Not remotely.
    Joe: well, shit

  • @entropygenerator2646
    @entropygenerator2646 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for my weekly dose of hope.

  • @pinpouek
    @pinpouek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As science-loving guys, why do you and Joe go for this "Global warming is contentious" stuff? Nobody (ev. outside of the USA?) except bots still believe it, least of all scientists. (great video though ;)

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Man-made global warming is not a "contentious topic", it's scientific consensus.

    • @thumper8684
      @thumper8684 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Naughty Isaac! (Although technically you could call something contentious even if only idiots and vested interests are opposed.)
      Can you timestamp that for me. I didn't hear it first time around.

    • @Breakfast_of_Champions
      @Breakfast_of_Champions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Start at 9:43 ... I really didn't like this whole weaseling passage, it's definitely not what you have to feed your audience.

    • @krisztianpovazson4535
      @krisztianpovazson4535 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess you really don't like the existence of the Early Medieval Warm period, when Greenland was actually green, or the 10 degrees higher average global temperature in the Paleozoic, or the fact that less than 4% of the Earth's total CO2 output growth is human-related, either. They do bad things to your feeling of self-importance.
      What "scientific consensus" were you talking about, again?

    • @christianmiller9980
      @christianmiller9980 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He doesn't want to have a comments section from hell I guess. In any case, I suggest anyone interested in educating themselves to have an opinion on climate change read the scientific literature. I have changed my opinion on it through the process of reading actual science, but I was trained as a physical scientist, so perhaps that option is not accessible to everyone.

    • @christianmiller9980
      @christianmiller9980 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, are you sure you mean Paleozoic, Krisztian? I'm not sure how the Paleozoic is relevant given we are currently in the Cenozoic era, and conditions during much of the Paleozoic weren't really conducive to human life?

  • @omnigeek
    @omnigeek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    True... the impact that created the moon destroyed the surface of the earth and not even cockroaches could survive that.... but, Keith Richards could.

  • @tomclark6271
    @tomclark6271 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isaac, I don't mean to be critical, but I guess I am. I enjoyed your video, my first one actually. However, I did find your speech impediment too distracting to sit through another one. I'm pretty sure that you could benefit from a few sessions with a speech therapist. Please please don't take me wrong, you are obviously a smart guy who could be so much more influential in educating the unwashed masses. The key is communication, in this case, through the spoken word.

  • @neuroticaproductions1834
    @neuroticaproductions1834 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me at the Beginning: "Isaac, I'm not sure humans are up to the challenge of some of this shit ..."
    Me at the End: "Humanity, fuck yeah! Here to save the mother fucking day!"

  • @UltraBrot
    @UltraBrot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My money is on nuclear war.

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The State is Too Dangerous to Tolerate

    • @bmpk4954
      @bmpk4954 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. Eventually it has to happen.

    • @shanerooney7288
      @shanerooney7288 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nuclear war is only dangerous because it destroys the biosystem.
      A collapse of the biosystem can be achieved in a large variety of ways.

    • @UltraBrot
      @UltraBrot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shane Rooney Yes, but nuclear war and the following nuclear winter is the quickest and most thorough way humanity can archive right now. And we got close several times in less than a century.

    • @infinitasalo472
      @infinitasalo472 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neither of those are very "diverse" though

  • @northernashes3063
    @northernashes3063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy shit I love your voice! Just jumped over here from Joe's channel and I'm Australian so you both have great accents. l love your accent, its so soothing, your voice was made for narrating dude! Cool video, keep it up you've got my sub

  • @micahhorton5252
    @micahhorton5252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What's up!! I love both your channel as well as Joe's!

  • @DrRich-mw4hu
    @DrRich-mw4hu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I get depressed, I look for Isaac's channel and become much happier🤓

  • @Gordozinho
    @Gordozinho 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What about nuclear war?

    • @landgsmith
      @landgsmith 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gordozin more survivable than those listed here in the video?

    • @PerfectAlibi1
      @PerfectAlibi1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ever played a Fallout game? XD

    • @mikezeitgeist2
      @mikezeitgeist2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nuclear war will be quite survivable for most of humanity once we spread out all over the solar system in rotating habitats.

    • @Gordozinho
      @Gordozinho 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if it happens before that?

    • @PerfectAlibi1
      @PerfectAlibi1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ Gordozin
      Again, play a Fallout game! XD

  • @Derps189
    @Derps189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im sorry to say this but... do you have a speech inpediment

  • @KotBlini
    @KotBlini 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why prevent it?

    • @Nasa742
      @Nasa742 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kot Blini I know

    • @JaredFugitt
      @JaredFugitt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kot Blini
      Do you have children? Are you going to?

    • @ficmon7225
      @ficmon7225 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My man

    • @Lukegear
      @Lukegear 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Are you some kind of misanthtope?

    • @sankhyohalder97
      @sankhyohalder97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good question Kot. Now, why don't you lead by example and preferably with yourself?

  • @cholten99
    @cholten99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always good but I was a bit disappointed that each of these didn't have a likelihood in a given timescale associated with them. For example, we know it's staggeringly unlikely that any star close enough to damage us with a GRB will actually hit us with one. On the other hand climate change and even a coronal mass ejection are things that could cause very significant impacts within the lifetime of some viewers.

  • @codyshi4743
    @codyshi4743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Issac, make a video on how we could save earth from being devour by the Black Hole, make video in how we could prevent the cooling of Earth’s core, how we could prevent earth from moving out of orbit, and also make a video on how we could prevent earth from being hit by a rouge Planet.

  • @allamasadi7970
    @allamasadi7970 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You deserve a US government award for your services to education on the internet.
    Also love Joe's channel, I love the contrast, Joe is funny and is balanced by the serious tone of this video so this is probably one of the best 2 part collaborations in the history of TH-cam.

  • @mattisvov
    @mattisvov 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's why we love Isaac. There is no problem that cannot be solved with an orbital ring, some forethought, and a big chunk of positive thinking. ;)

  • @phillipkang1782
    @phillipkang1782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joe the pessimist and Isaac the optimist. The ying and yang.

  • @PayneMaximus
    @PayneMaximus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way we are going right now, I don't think we'll make it 100 years into the future, probably not enough time to prevent our own extinction.

  • @svsguru2000
    @svsguru2000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad that humans are too short sighted to use any of these solutions.
    We have known about global warming for decades, and look how little we have done.
    Some actually deny the problem.

  • @simonsviridenko6324
    @simonsviridenko6324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job,Isaac.Your video essays always induce optimism inside of me as they show me,that things,that might seem absurd,are actually quite possible even with our modern day technology and this fact dissipates the skepticism and existential dread,which i think is the zeitgeist. Knowledge and wisdom are the powers we posses that make the gods jealous.

  • @MauMenzori
    @MauMenzori 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:15 - Wasn't expecting any jokes, and that one caught me by surprise. Good one.

  • @lafelong
    @lafelong 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately, many of the "solutions" discussed in this video are predicated on humans having enough time to develop and implement them prior to an event. This certainly may not be the case.

  • @connorgahan5197
    @connorgahan5197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AND THEIR WILL BE A FOURTH MOVIE A SANDY SQUIRREL MOVIE AND TWO MORE SPINOFFS ABOUT SQUIDWARD AND ABOUT GARY THE SNAIL ALL THREE WILL BE A MIX OF LIVE ACTION AND CGI

  • @johnrivers5934
    @johnrivers5934 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So it looks like the ability to build ridiculous amounts of mirrors/ solar panels is the bestest defense mankind can create.
    Also, I had my wisdom teeth out today, and You and Joe have saved the day.

  • @connorgahan5197
    @connorgahan5197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THEIR WILL BE A SPINOFF ABOUT GARY THE SNAIL A SPINOFF ABOUT SQUIDWARD TENTECALES AND A SANDY SQUIRREL MOVIE ALL THREE WILL BE A MIX OF LIVE ACTION AND CGI

  • @djejou
    @djejou 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video but human caused climate change is NOT a contentious topic. As an education channel you have a duty to be forthright about it.

  • @connorgahan5197
    @connorgahan5197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IN SPONGE OUT OF WATER THERE WAS A POST APCOLYPSE BIKINI BOTTOM IT WAS A PARAODY OF MAD MAX FURY ROAD/ALIENS/DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES/INTERSTELLER

  • @hdufort
    @hdufort 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good analog to an efficient grey goo would be the Slime Molds. They exhibit emergent behavior.

  • @fatallisticartisticexpression
    @fatallisticartisticexpression 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We thought it was fun to examine some of the potenial catastrophies of the future... " this is why i'm watching your channel, man