Yeah too many injuries and this contract is only 50,000 guaranteed I would be shocked if he actually does something, Vidal should be the guy mid season.
Gus has ALWAYS been JKs backup. Why would this year be any different. I'll draft him late and if he's healthy he can play if hurt it's no big deal cut and run
Dobbins tore is ACL+LCL in 2021 and now is recovering from a torn Achilles. RBs do not come back from that kind of injury. Torn Achilles is a deal breaker, especially for fantasy RBs. •James Robinson (torn Achilles) was a RB 7 and only had a couple big games before falling off post injury. • Arian Foster (torn Achilles) was a RB1 and fell off after his injury. 50+ RB post injury. *I believe the last guy who was decent coming back from an Achilles was M. Leshoure but he was 20+ RB that year. And he was out of the league the following year.
Chubb tore his mcl, pcl, and lcl in college and went on to be one of the best workhorse downs in the game.. he’s gotten another injury now so we’ll see how that goes though.. obviously it’s easier to comeback from soemthing if you’re younger
@@deshaunthibault8372Data shows that it's more likely that a player will bounce back from knee ligament tares than achilles. And it's hard for me to believe that Dobbins will comeback from the combination of tares in both parts of his body (Achilles/Knee). But it's mainly the achilles tare that is concerning. I'm sure it's not impossible. Dobbins would have one of the rarest situational comebacks if he makes it inside the top 20.
Great takes. Describing Jayden Daniels as "coupon" Anthony Richardson is hilarious. I got burned on AR in BB last year and I am a little worried he is one of these guys who looks NFL tough but can't take the NFL hits. The NFL is different. Roger Clemmons once said MLB hitters "can put wood on a bullet." NFL defenders are the same way. Being big and fast is great, but these guys can put wood on a bullet. I am not sure either of these kids understands how to protect themselves, but I am taking a few shots on both of them. Can't deny the talent.
Well said. Kadarius Toney was talked up for 3 straight years based on "break the game" talent and we know how that turned out. Honestly would rather take Mark Andrews in that round and pick up Love, Dak, Murray a few rounds later. Daniels better learn how to slide or he is going to get hurt and hurt often.
While you make valid points, the only QB that is a bigger question mark than a guy who only played 4 NFL games is a guy that has played 0. At least with AR we know he can play the position, we just dont know if he can stay healthy. That is considerably more info than we have on Daniels. Lets keep in mind they are both 6'4", but AR weighs in at 244 lbs, Daniels at 210. So if injury and is an issue, it's an issue for both at least.
Re: Bowers. No team could have been better for Bowers than the Raiders. LV has a long history of taking mediocre TEs and making them top 5 at the position. Guys like Cook and Miller and Waller (and more) who are top 5 with the Raiders, sign a big contract with a different team and go back to mid tier TEs (This is why the Raiders dont resign these TEs to big contracts, they know they are overvalued based on the system). It doesnt matter who the coach or QB is, it's a system thing with LV, they make TEs shine. He comes into the Raiders as the # 2 target right off the bat, and struggling QBs love their TE outlets, particularly the Raiders, who have top tier TEs year after year, even when their QB is subpar. Bowers is EASILY already a top ten TE in fantasy.
This will only be my first full year of fantasy so idk who those te’s QBs were.. but the raiders only have Minshew and aiden rn… obviously they’ll still be able to make basic plays and they’ll run a lot using multiple te sets. But mayer wasn’t even a top 30 te last year for fantasy and wasn’t he considered the best in his class? I expect this year to be very different for LAV but how different can we really expect it to be you feel me?
Did he say, “J.K. Dobbins is a very healthy player”? By what standard? Very healthy compared to someone with foot-in-mouth disease? That being said, aside from the “he’s *very healthy*” comment, he’s right. Dobbins has completed rehab and is practicing in training camp, and the reports are great. There’s always the risk he never regains the level of play he flashed as a rookie, but I don’t care. All of that risk is already baked into his ADP. If I’m drafting Dobbins, I’m doing it with my very last pick. I can always drop him and grab a waiver scrub and lose absolutely nothing. He’s essentially free, and if he pulls a Breece Hall… Hell, if he just plays all 16 games I’ll be getting at least an RB2 level performance from an ECR of about 170. Dobbins is going anywhere from an ADP of 121 to 221. So in almost all league formats and sizes you can likely take him with your last pick. Sure, I could spend my last pick on someone safer, like Tyler Allgeier, Kendre Miller, Adam Thielen, Gabe Davis, or Rashod Bateman (going around the same ADP). But I’d rather have Dobbins because his floor, which we’ve seen from him in 2022, is 92/520/2 rushing and 7/42/1 receiving. That was only playing half a season. If he wins the starting spot and plays all 16 games that projects to 184/1040/4 rushing and 14/84/2 receiving. And again, that’s just his floor. Last season James Cook’s line was 237/1122/2 and 44/445/4, and Cook is being drafted as a mid range RB1. Draft J.K. Dobbins, he’ll be worth the draft capital you spend on him. There, I don’t think I can argue it any better than that.
I love how Richardson’s narrative is allllll upside, but Amarius Mims is a boom or bust pick for small sample size. But I do agree Richardson can break fantasy (if he doesn’t break himself first).
As a Vikes fan, with my biases, I think we are lowballing Hockenson. I get the Bowers point and am excited to see him in a smash mouth offense like the Raiders, but Hock has a shot at being back. It is slim and there are still so many questions, but he was TE 4 last year after missing the last 2 games. He is an easy pick for volume red zone targets. I'm obviously higher on him than most, but all I'm saying is don't count him out yet, @Joey P. 45:10
I always turn it off when jk Robbins & D Smith are suggested to be drafted back to back. Instead of the 2 just make sure you get C watson or Keon Coleman & Zeus.
Happy Independence Day guys. You’re the best! Congratulations Andrew! Would love to have seen Joey P and D Bro do the Electric Slide at the wedding LOL. We are getting close to training camps opening. Can’t wait.
Idk about Devonta smith, he's a phenomenal player it has nothing to do with him. Problem is 1. AJ Brown is still the number 1 target (Smith only had 112 targets last year) , 2. I think the eagles will show off their new toy in Saquon a ton giving him that big contract , and 3. Hurts takes so many Tds away with the tush push.
I like how Eriksons take on everyone is if “X” gets hurt, then “Y” is gonna take off. Well duh, that’s the same for every team, but should not be a draft strategy
Can’t draft achane at price. He can’t sustain last years efficiency. There’s Mostert, achanes size/weight, and they drafted an RB! Too volatile & risky!
‼️ what do you guys think about Ezekiel Elliott coming back to the cowboys this year is someone that you would just leave on your bench pick him up late or would you put him in a flex position for PPR 10 man ????
I turned off the video after he said Richardson led the league in yards per drop back. Dude played 4 games. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for meaningful stats
your podcasts on Spotify at least is recorded at a low level of sound i have to turn up my volume all the way on my phone and its still hard to hear fyi..
Disagree with the Achane and Gibbs comparisons. While Achane put up insane numbers as a rookie (in part benefiting from a great offense), eye test shows you why Gibbs was the 12th overall pick in the draft. Achane has breakaway speed but Gibbs has it all. Also would expect Gibbs usage to increase because he was drafted so high
@@princekubakuba9682 much less so. Watch his highlights, he’s making guys miss on his own and creating his own plays. Again, 12th overall pick. Already one of the hardest open field tackles in the league. I’m not ready to say that about Achane.
if Pacecho laid off the contact there is more chance of injury for him, there is science to it..........All of your picks are A 1....and Pickens and McLauren is like comparing the brains of Brandon and Einstein, I would avoid Pickens like the plague
🤦♂️Anthony Richardson is only fantasy relevant… he a sub par QB… he’s Daniel Jones who runs better It’s not the concussion that bothers me… it’s the fact that he hurt his throwing shoulder, didn’t practice the rest of the year and when he did throw in May, he was sore, even got an MRI… His 4 game sample size was not impressive at all… out of all the stating QBs in the NFL right now… his 4 game sample (even extrapolating the numbers) were only better than fields… 3000 yards 12 TDs… that is Daniel Jones… For a dude who struggled to make 59% completion… and really look OK not great throwing the ball… How is he going to improve? He hasn’t practiced Y’all are way off on this kid… his numbers in college were garbage… the guy has not proven he can do it
Why are people still drafting dobbins? You want a player you cant take around the same time?? Take a shot at dowdle. Marshawn lloyd and chubba hubbard too. Stay away from dobbins
Dobbins is trash...achilles tear is the end for a running back, they are never the same.. look up all previous years of players who have had the injury.. mainly the running backs,,, never the same
Anthony Richardson is the type of player that will ruin your fantasy season . He will always be hurt with his reckless style and wasn’t accurate in college . He is going to bust . Better gamble is to take a second Qb early and get Jayden Daniels later . A backup Qb won’t ruin your season
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A reference to The Rainforest Cafe starts this video off with MASSIVE UPSIDE!!! Fantastic!
He just called JK a healthy guy. Naaaa
Both of the guys laughed at Erickson for the dobbins pick 😂
Erickson is always giving Aiyuk that HAWK TUAH every time he has the chance 😂 I won’t be drafting unless Deebo is gone or he is.
It's not IF you draft him, it's WHEN you draft him.
When Andrew Erickson speaks, I listen, and do the opposite.
lol
😂😂
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I went 2 consecutive finals thanks to Erickson. Put sum respect on his name
@@johnayala1150 I'd rather not. But glad to hear it.
Do not draft jk dobbins people
Well Dbro wasn't the one to pitch the idea, so it might have some viability
Yeah too many injuries and this contract is only 50,000 guaranteed I would be shocked if he actually does something, Vidal should be the guy mid season.
Amen!
Maybe , maybe draft him as your last pick and first cut if nothing comes from him. Don’t hang on to him hoping
Gus has ALWAYS been JKs backup. Why would this year be any different. I'll draft him late and if he's healthy he can play if hurt it's no big deal cut and run
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Dobbins tore is ACL+LCL in 2021 and now is recovering from a torn Achilles. RBs do not come back from that kind of injury. Torn Achilles is a deal breaker, especially for fantasy RBs.
•James Robinson (torn Achilles) was a RB 7 and only had a couple big games before falling off post injury.
• Arian Foster (torn Achilles) was a RB1 and fell off after his injury. 50+ RB post injury.
*I believe the last guy who was decent coming back from an Achilles was M. Leshoure but he was 20+ RB that year. And he was out of the league the following year.
Considering his ADP is 150+ take him if you want, there is zero risk there
Chubb tore his mcl, pcl, and lcl in college and went on to be one of the best workhorse downs in the game.. he’s gotten another injury now so we’ll see how that goes though.. obviously it’s easier to comeback from soemthing if you’re younger
@@deshaunthibault8372Data shows that it's more likely that a player will bounce back from knee ligament tares than achilles. And it's hard for me to believe that Dobbins will comeback from the combination of tares in both parts of his body (Achilles/Knee). But it's mainly the achilles tare that is concerning. I'm sure it's not impossible. Dobbins would have one of the rarest situational comebacks if he makes it inside the top 20.
Based off that intro I just realized Joey P lives right by me lol maybe I’ll join you guys at the rainforest cafe haha
Great takes. Describing Jayden Daniels as "coupon" Anthony Richardson is hilarious. I got burned on AR in BB last year and I am a little worried he is one of these guys who looks NFL tough but can't take the NFL hits. The NFL is different. Roger Clemmons once said MLB hitters "can put wood on a bullet." NFL defenders are the same way. Being big and fast is great, but these guys can put wood on a bullet. I am not sure either of these kids understands how to protect themselves, but I am taking a few shots on both of them. Can't deny the talent.
Well said. Kadarius Toney was talked up for 3 straight years based on "break the game" talent and we know how that turned out. Honestly would rather take Mark Andrews in that round and pick up Love, Dak, Murray a few rounds later. Daniels better learn how to slide or he is going to get hurt and hurt often.
The sideline needs to be AR’s best friend.
While you make valid points, the only QB that is a bigger question mark than a guy who only played 4 NFL games is a guy that has played 0. At least with AR we know he can play the position, we just dont know if he can stay healthy. That is considerably more info than we have on Daniels. Lets keep in mind they are both 6'4", but AR weighs in at 244 lbs, Daniels at 210. So if injury and is an issue, it's an issue for both at least.
GREAT show. Fitz is one of the best and one of my favorites, but both Joe P and Erickson are among the best! Thanks!
Re: Bowers. No team could have been better for Bowers than the Raiders. LV has a long history of taking mediocre TEs and making them top 5 at the position. Guys like Cook and Miller and Waller (and more) who are top 5 with the Raiders, sign a big contract with a different team and go back to mid tier TEs (This is why the Raiders dont resign these TEs to big contracts, they know they are overvalued based on the system). It doesnt matter who the coach or QB is, it's a system thing with LV, they make TEs shine. He comes into the Raiders as the # 2 target right off the bat, and struggling QBs love their TE outlets, particularly the Raiders, who have top tier TEs year after year, even when their QB is subpar. Bowers is EASILY already a top ten TE in fantasy.
This will only be my first full year of fantasy so idk who those te’s QBs were.. but the raiders only have Minshew and aiden rn… obviously they’ll still be able to make basic plays and they’ll run a lot using multiple te sets. But mayer wasn’t even a top 30 te last year for fantasy and wasn’t he considered the best in his class? I expect this year to be very different for LAV but how different can we really expect it to be you feel me?
@@deshaunthibault8372 Time will tell, results may vary.
Did he say, “J.K. Dobbins is a very healthy player”? By what standard? Very healthy compared to someone with foot-in-mouth disease?
That being said, aside from the “he’s *very healthy*” comment, he’s right. Dobbins has completed rehab and is practicing in training camp, and the reports are great.
There’s always the risk he never regains the level of play he flashed as a rookie, but I don’t care. All of that risk is already baked into his ADP. If I’m drafting Dobbins, I’m doing it with my very last pick. I can always drop him and grab a waiver scrub and lose absolutely nothing. He’s essentially free, and if he pulls a Breece Hall…
Hell, if he just plays all 16 games I’ll be getting at least an RB2 level performance from an ECR of about 170. Dobbins is going anywhere from an ADP of 121 to 221. So in almost all league formats and sizes you can likely take him with your last pick.
Sure, I could spend my last pick on someone safer, like Tyler Allgeier, Kendre Miller, Adam Thielen, Gabe Davis, or Rashod Bateman (going around the same ADP). But I’d rather have Dobbins because his floor, which we’ve seen from him in 2022, is 92/520/2 rushing and 7/42/1 receiving. That was only playing half a season. If he wins the starting spot and plays all 16 games that projects to 184/1040/4 rushing and 14/84/2 receiving. And again, that’s just his floor. Last season James Cook’s line was 237/1122/2 and 44/445/4, and Cook is being drafted as a mid range RB1.
Draft J.K. Dobbins, he’ll be worth the draft capital you spend on him. There, I don’t think I can argue it any better than that.
Great job, fellas! As always!
I love how Richardson’s narrative is allllll upside, but Amarius Mims is a boom or bust pick for small sample size. But I do agree Richardson can break fantasy (if he doesn’t break himself first).
Love draft wizard!
So early to the video don’t know what to do
Preseason is next month though, can’t wait!!
i have felt like that since the final whistle of SB and i not even an American!!!!
Happy Fourth of July
Thank you, Superman
@@AGS_41216 lol more like super old man
Have a great day
@@pistolrx9313 you too boss
Picked up waddle for the 1.09 and 2.02 and I picked up Aiyuk for a really late 2025 1st and Addison 🎉 1 qb start 8
Happy Joe, Happy Show!!!
Rainforest cafe is such a classic spot
As a Vikes fan, with my biases, I think we are lowballing Hockenson. I get the Bowers point and am excited to see him in a smash mouth offense like the Raiders, but Hock has a shot at being back. It is slim and there are still so many questions, but he was TE 4 last year after missing the last 2 games. He is an easy pick for volume red zone targets. I'm obviously higher on him than most, but all I'm saying is don't count him out yet, @Joey P. 45:10
picking at 3 in redraft, would you rather go Bijan/Waddle or JJettas/Achane
Bijan/Waddle all day. Jettas and Achane are way too risky
I always turn it off when jk Robbins & D Smith are suggested to be drafted back to back. Instead of the 2 just make sure you get C watson or Keon Coleman & Zeus.
Pickens over Alken, Allen has DJ Moore and Odunze
Happy Independence Day guys. You’re the best! Congratulations Andrew! Would love to have seen Joey P and D Bro do the Electric Slide at the wedding LOL. We are getting close to training camps opening. Can’t wait.
Idk about Devonta smith, he's a phenomenal player it has nothing to do with him. Problem is 1. AJ Brown is still the number 1 target (Smith only had 112 targets last year) , 2. I think the eagles will show off their new toy in Saquon a ton giving him that big contract , and 3. Hurts takes so many Tds away with the tush push.
In June Jayden McDaniels was on the list of players to avoid…so which one is it?
I like how Eriksons take on everyone is if “X” gets hurt, then “Y” is gonna take off. Well duh, that’s the same for every team, but should not be a draft strategy
Can’t draft achane at price. He can’t sustain last years efficiency. There’s Mostert, achanes size/weight, and they drafted an RB! Too volatile & risky!
Mid 3rd round you wouldnt bite? What if the other rbs are just Mixon, Kamara, & James Cook in that range ? Henry, Jacobs just went.
Y’all are petrified
Achane will be a. Beast late 3rd 12 teak..he looks like Doug Martin rookie year. He works out😅
@@TSharpxI would take Mixon if he is there 3rd 4th
Draft both Miami RBs- no one knows how the season will play out, but I'm confident you can start both if you have 2 flex spots
I was just at the Rainforest Cafe about a month ago.
‼️ what do you guys think about Ezekiel Elliott coming back to the cowboys this year is someone that you would just leave on your bench pick him up late or would you put him in a flex position for PPR 10 man ????
I'd drop him for somebody else
Avoid him completely. You will not get value from him. He is on these guys '13 RBs to avoid this season' video, to answer your question.
aaayy s/o Jersey!! - i've been to that rainforest cafe btw
You know who else said they weren't afraid of Gus Edwards? Every DA that drafted him with a top 50 pick the last 2 years.
Keep drafting achane early, I will keep dominating noobs who do
I guarantee you lost every matchup to achane last year🤣
@deshaunthibault8372 very foolish accusation. Actually it's quite Goofy just like a clown
I turned off the video after he said Richardson led the league in yards per drop back. Dude played 4 games. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for meaningful stats
your podcasts on Spotify at least is recorded at a low level of sound i have to turn up my volume all the way on my phone and its still hard to hear fyi..
Discount code for subscriptions?
Dobbins coming off an Achilles heel might last a few games
JK Dobbins in 2024 is crazy
Do Dr. Evil again
Disagree with the Achane and Gibbs comparisons. While Achane put up insane numbers as a rookie (in part benefiting from a great offense), eye test shows you why Gibbs was the 12th overall pick in the draft. Achane has breakaway speed but Gibbs has it all. Also would expect Gibbs usage to increase because he was drafted so high
And Gibbs didn’t benefit from a great offense? Foh
@@princekubakuba9682 much less so. Watch his highlights, he’s making guys miss on his own and creating his own plays. Again, 12th overall pick. Already one of the hardest open field tackles in the league. I’m not ready to say that about Achane.
Amon ra will be a beast..Gibbs will get his😅
Watson wants to get paid so he is gonna play well this year hopefully
So Joey P and Erickson will be in Edison next month 😂
achane being the “coupon” gibbs? 🤣🤣🤣 INSANEEE take, they are not the same players at all
Erickson thinks he is playing 4d chess by naming all the reasons you should not pick Aiyuk and Dobbins.
Are they talking about Menlo Park mall lol
if you draft all these players on 1 team your season will be over by week 6. This should be called highest upside player with very low floor
i traded super late picks for dobbins. he will shock people this year.
False.
He just gotta stay healthy bcuz the talent is undeniable
I think you will be the one who is shocked this season.
@raffi1189 not a matter of if Dobbins is healthy, it's a matter of when he will NOT be healthy. Wish him well, but he's burned me a couple times.
Fitzys mic keeps cutting out
0% chance I take Dobbins lol. Follow the $, nothing guaranteed on top of the nasty injuries.
Talk about dobbins being healthy after an injury is not new...how can you bank on a short sell transaction to finance your quest for a championship
I feel like I have a clear mental picture of Fitz' wife now (not in a creepy way)
Brock bowers to the moon he will be a top 5 te
if Pacecho laid off the contact there is more chance of injury for him, there is science to it..........All of your picks are A 1....and Pickens and McLauren is like comparing the brains of Brandon and Einstein, I would avoid Pickens like the plague
Aiyuk is a jag
How many times is JK Dobbins going to fool us? Yea he’s talented, but he can’t stay healthy!
🤦♂️Anthony Richardson is only fantasy relevant… he a sub par QB… he’s Daniel Jones who runs better
It’s not the concussion that bothers me… it’s the fact that he hurt his throwing shoulder, didn’t practice the rest of the year and when he did throw in May, he was sore, even got an MRI…
His 4 game sample size was not impressive at all… out of all the stating QBs in the NFL right now… his 4 game sample (even extrapolating the numbers) were only better than fields…
3000 yards 12 TDs… that is Daniel Jones…
For a dude who struggled to make 59% completion… and really look OK not great throwing the ball…
How is he going to improve? He hasn’t practiced
Y’all are way off on this kid… his numbers in college were garbage… the guy has not proven he can do it
That was an extremely dumb stat about Richardson having the most yards per drop back. He only played 4 games.
That’s an extremely dumb interpretation of the word ‘per’, specially since they mentioned the small sample
🤣
Learn to to actually listen to what’s being said…
Why are people still drafting dobbins? You want a player you cant take around the same time?? Take a shot at dowdle. Marshawn lloyd and chubba hubbard too. Stay away from dobbins
Nothing wrong with drafting dobbins he is basically free in drafts right now
Duh
Dobbins is trash...achilles tear is the end for a running back, they are never the same.. look up all previous years of players who have had the injury.. mainly the running backs,,, never the same
First baby let’s go
Anthony Richardson is the type of player that will ruin your fantasy season . He will always be hurt with his reckless style and wasn’t accurate in college .
He is going to bust .
Better gamble is to take a second Qb early and get Jayden Daniels later .
A backup Qb won’t ruin your season
JK Dobbins is NOT a good RB, and YES there were people championing for Gus Edwards. Myself being one of them (4 years straight).
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