The memoirs of Albrech Entrati regarding his first successful journey in crossing over into the Void. Rewarded for reaching max rank with both Heart of Deimos syndicates, the Entrati and the Necraloid.
Virgin Lore Theorists: "The man in the wall’s name is just an allegory, he's an all-seeing entity that is constantly watching. A physical manifestation of the Tenno's guilt, created by the void to haunt them." The Chad Literal Man in the Wall: OULL RIS XATA. VOME KHRA LOHK.
It's sad to me so many gamers only know Warframe as an action looter, and not as a deeper, darker tragedy of errors and ambitions failed or even worse, realized.
Same thing with the music most know it for the "We all Lift Together, This is Who You Are, Smiles of Juran" yet amazing tracks of HoD, Deadlock protocol, Your Creator exist
i mean it's not exactly their fault when most of the non-quest lore is hard to find in the first place. locking Sigor Savah's lore behind the occasional Ghoul bounties will only make it read by a handful
"Was it I who escaped? or... *the other...?* " This is it, this is the Duviri Paradox. I believe the adult Tenno we saw in the trailer were actually the *real* Tenno, aging into adults as natural, meanwhile the void copies that escaped is what we are controlling in-game, we are reflections on a mirror, but unlike the real thing, we are eternal, we don't age, we are forever children. Maybe this is what the void does, it creates a copy of the person at that specific moment of exposure and superimposes that onto their timeline, all the while, The Man In The Wall may be the *void itself* , the Lovecraftian entity that is beyond our perception and tricks us, manipulates our life threads as if we were puppets. Something to think about.
But then again, why does the Man in the wall say that we owe him something, and "There is something out there kiddo; watching us". These are not the words that you would expect from the Void incarnate, are they?
@@ghostnest3042 Someome else in this comment section, the Albrecht lore (and the Rell comics i think) indicate that the man in the wall repeats (for some reason) what the parents of the person he's mimicking said. "Kiddo" was a nickname used by the tenno's parents just like "Little Bengel" was used by Albrecht's mother, he is simply repeating what they said to us and therefore those phrases make perfect sense. " Someone is watching" that someone is the man in the wall and that was our parents, scared, telling us this.
@1010010111001010 No the daughter mentions that they are too far gone because the infestation taking over them is changing and mutating too quick. All they can do is delay the effects.
"Little Bengel". As in the german "Bengel"? It means brat. But in a more endearing way. It's Albrechts "Hey Kiddo". Just as his parents called him, and as our father on the Ten-Zero called us.
The interesting part of that is how it fits the overarching "family" thematics of Warframe, you know, how our "maternal figure" keeps on getting ripped away from us, how the sentients treat each other as members of one giant family, how we got "adopted" by the Entrati, The Void is playing a role game, trying to pull the emotional strings of people who venture into it's dimension
Notice how Albrecht states all the sections of this with names that correspond to Requiems, ending with Lohk. Once he gets to Lohk, he recites a poem, with verses that correlate with the Requiems, as well, in the same order, except for one; Lohk. The poem starts with Lohk, void, and the entries end with it. We end as we began.
@@lucasbrav131the void is what made this all possible it seems, without Wally breaching into our system from Albrecht's void research, there wouldn't be Orokin, and without Orokin there wouldn't be a Wally. It's a bootstrap paradox, none of the two parts can exist without the other, and in Warframe: 1999, it seems that Wally is trying to make it so he exists in every single timeline by setting the universe in motion to create the Orokin, and by virtue of that, Albrecht.
Which tells me that Wally is vulnerable to being stopped and created, but only if he attempts it in another universe. He may be killable in that moment, but only then, and only for that universe. Which may be a hint that we are not going back in time, but to another universe before Wally creates himself there. What comes after that battle in response in our universe by his reaction to our actions in the parallel one, is anyone's guess. @@DakkaSolae
@@dredvax No, the glory of singularity is not the fate that awaits at the end. First the sun, spent of fuel and yet ever thirsting, expands. Engulfing those that dwell inside the belt, perhaps save red Mars. Then contracting begins. Shells of gas are spat out into entrancing nebulae. Those not consumed by the expansion will be bombarded by these ejections. A cycle of expansion and begins only ending when after it's last materials cast off, the core of our once noble lies naked, cooling inthe vastness of eternity as a white dwarf.
Hmm, doesn't exploiter also specifically mention the sun in relation to death? Edit: I checked and while it doesn't seem to be related to this, The exploiter does mention the sun in it's death dialogue "And... so I turn, from the tumult of the world... toward home... that sweetest spot... 'neath the circuit... of the sun..."
Lesson learned; be careful when you try to get a deeper understanding of the very concept of nothing, because you may not be mentally or emotionally ready for when that nothing decides on a whim to be _something..._
@@killerinstinct9954 When going through the individual journal entries, the exit prompt on each one is labelled 'close'. Only on Ris, where the story culminates in a message written in blood, as Albrecht begs his daughter to close the wall of Lohk ('Close it') is the prompt replaced with 'Close it'.
For those wondering about the label with which Albrecht is addressed with by the hissing voice, " little Bengel''. Bengel is a german word, a teasing label for a misbehaving boy.
"little bengel" Somewhat, Similar to "hey kiddo" which our "FATHER" from the zariman calls us that manifest through the void entities dialogue.. we have 2 moms now, infested mom & space mom,, could the void be the "father" figure? Lol
@@japzy76 the man in the wall calls us that wqy because he is the one that gave us the transference power Remember the war within? "Hey, kiddo! Dont forget, you are nothing without me" "You owe me" etc
"I heard a crunch alongside me, someone stepping through the shattered glass... With great shame, I gasped and raised my head to face my daughter above me, but as I oppened my eyes... It wasn't her... I - It was ME..." Tell me that this didn't give you the chills... Even Albrecht himself stumbled recording this PROBABLY DACADES AFTER THE EXPERIMENT, judging from what he says about thinking and doing extensive experimentation. He even mentioned the Zariman 10-0, meaning he had already built the Reliquary Drive...
So incredible! So as I understand this, Albrecht developed void travel but never told anyone who he saw in the void. A lurking monster under the waves, yet he delivered ships to the Orokin. Then he doesn't take the Kuva, chosing to end his journey never to sail in that sea that he sent his fellow Orokin into. For beneath those waves lurked something he could never fathom. DE is just fantastic with their writing!
@@Arcantropolo Yes but he seemed to somehow have created his own realm within the void. He also as far we know hasn't encountered the man in the wall. Though it may be that protea saved and protected him from the void, and her specter did after she passed.
Also fallen star -> fallen angel -> Lucifer, I.e. "Void Devils" -> upcoming content crawling our way back to the Zariman, from whence we fell, wherein now lurk 'angels' Granted, the parallels to Christian symbolism are probably as significant as they are in Evangelion: looks cool, that's all
oh I was thinking about the line "I brought the stars within reach" the stars that were unreachable high in the sky were brought within reach - "felled" by the development of FTL/space travel
So, he met the Man, and chose to truly die so he wouldn't chance another meeting I think I get why we, the Tenno are sorta like Albrech. While he was in relative terms, directly exposed to the void for a 'short' time, it was able to react and form from his memories and the ambient thoughts pouring in from the gate. We, were stranded in a ship with untold numbers of people for what was years in realspace, could've been centuries or millennia, potentially a great many hull breaches gave the Void plenty of connection to react to the us and the rest of the occupants. We might not have even returned from the Void in the first place but merely materialized void constructs, ship and all. The Duviri Paradox might just be us returning to our "source", our real bodies.
Oh man that would be such a great development! It'll be like second dream all over again, us waking up again. I wouldn't even be mad, that would be great writing
Fun fact: Heart of Deimos was supposed to launch AFTER the New War quest, after seeing Mr. Entrati story this “continuity” makes so much sense, finding out there was another person that also experimented having a “twin” just like us, it’s a shame that Deimos had to be put in before, the Entrati family will play a huge role in the future im sure about it Edit: I CALLED IT!!! WHISPERS IN THE WALL BABY
I doubt that, where did you hear it was supposed to come after new war? Clues are dropped that are not supposed to make sense until a grand reveal at the climax. Its less interesting if it merely tells us things we already know. From a story telling perspective it makes more sense that this was supposed to be first. Do you have a source where it was said this was supposed to be released after new war.
I love how with each of them it obviously says ‘Close’ in the corner But Khra? With him wanting to close the gate? ‘Close It’ Such a nice little detail
I really like learning about the men and women who shaped the Warframe universe. Silvana, Margulis, Ballas, Parvos Granum, and now Albrecht. I've always liked history, and this lore makes the universe of Warframe seem so much more, I don't know, real? The lore to Warframe is so goddamn amazing. Especially this. Warframe was always awesome to me, but I only recently realised that it's one of my favorite games of all time. I've never played a game on and off for over 6 YEARS. And the lore is one of the key reasons. I cannot wait for the Duviri Paradox.
So far, we've never been IN the Void. Sure we've gone through gates and piloted frames in towers inside the Void space. But we ourselves? Out IN the madness? Not yet. I think once we take that irreversible step, we'll see the darkest storyline DE has to offer. I for one, can't wait to see it.
@@itsVilu That is "domesticated" void, so to speak. Orokin void towers really are in the void, but it's different. You can see it like this: imagine you are an alien and you visit Manhattan. You can't really say that you know what planet Earth is like because you've only seen the subjugated part of it. The weather doesn't matter, the temperatures are adjustable, no predator animals out to kill us, all life sustaining resources are available for money. You rarely ever have to leave the safety of your home. An alien wouldn't know what Earth really is like until you put it into a dense rainforest, for example.
I gotta say, these entries really did well on building around the Duviri Paradox and the threat the man in the wall possesses. The orokin are known as immortals, they can and have died a hundred deaths to the point they forgot the meaning of fear because they would just come back from it. And yet Albrecht in his void travelling experiment, came across something that made him swear off the immortality forever, something that made him choose death over witnessing whatever entity was in that voidspace ever again.
That last one, Lohk, isn't just a poem. That's a description of the Void not just as a place, but an entity. And it sounds like its giving hints as to what its motives are.
@@ZRo69 You're malding pretty bad right now huh? Sorry I pointed out stuff you missed buddy. Try practicing non-literal thinking, you won't have to be hand held through every piece of lore then.
This man's voice sounds a lot like Wayne June, the (imo) best Lovecraft audio book narrator. Fitting, as this story does sound rather Lovecraftian in some ways.
@@whatisthisgaming4467 we hit em with the "Close it." command, localized to their own void access. It's like cutting off their crack supply except instead of crack it's void powers. Their ability to keep using powers if converted kinda spits in the face of this, tho
@@quantumblauthor7300 could handwave it as conversion subverting this connection to yourself instead of cutting it off hence causing the Lich to now be bound to you.
@@quantumblauthor7300 Cuz it could be interpreted as something else. "Switch Off" as it could be a void-connected mechanism, you always need to have a shutdown button if you're gonna make an immortal soldier, but ofcourse the void demons have the higher ground and have better control with this so y'know you can't really shut them down (for good) As a traitor primarch chicken once said: "We are litteraly MADE of void stuff"
If grinner given kuva could become somewhat a Tenno ripoff with void power and resurrection, but weak to 3 void keywords, does that mean you could permanently kill a tenno with same requiem words?
Would be wild if we're the man in the wall: the person behind the screen. The game is our dream, the void is our reality, connected to the game's world but incomprehensible to their residents. Something akin to the Minecraft ending monologue/poem.
This was exceptional to listen to all the way through, thank you for compiling this. I was hoping for a much bigger reveal in the last entry to answer more questions, however what the whole thing reveals about the Void, and how, in ONE update, this lore ties together the Lich Requiems, Railjack, the Man in the Wall, the Orokin...I know people were hoping for gameplay stuff like boss battles or big powerful weapons as rewards for maxing standing, but THIS, to me, is far better a reward than any of those things that just get treated like chores or toys to get thrown in the closet. This yields discussion, analysis, THOUGHT...far more important for a repetitive looter game to have that type of carrot as motivation than just trinkets and physical stuff. Hell, even the comments below, from the looks of it, are absolutely tickled to be discussing these aspects of the story more finally. It's great to see. :-D
Well. Like Vox Solaris this one is missing a few ranks and we still don't have acess to the others necramech they shown on tennocon's relay. I bet we'll have a boss fight to (be forced) use it.
@@chicomaroto I'm not sure it's missing ranks. I think DE wanted to coordinate the proofs we unlock with the amount of Requiem words exist, which was a good decision. Less ranks to grind to max, but also making the 8 Requiems a significant number rather than padding it out with two additional Necraloid ranks just to make it an even 5 for no reason. That said yes, we will be getting new mechs or mech parts, and I believe weapons. Boss fights specifically using the mechs probably, that would be awesome, though I think we'll be able to use the mechs in the other open world areas, so bare minimum against existing open world bosses. Apparently some people are already doing it to incredible effect.
Even though it only makes up maybe 5% of my time in Warframe, the story and especially the exposition and character interaction scenes to me are the most compelling parts of this universe. I hope in the future they will focus more on these aspects - more psychological dialogue and interesting exposition, less climactic action à la new War "devouring the sun".
Xata - Truth: It began long before us, we who now live our perfect and dull, endless lives. It began long before these moon-palaces and body-markets hurling around our golden sun. It began long before our light-coil thinkers, our radiation wars, our oil, smoke. It began with us. The continuity and it's twin wanderlust. The need for unseen shores deep in our marrow. No judge, jester, queen, or king can escape this old blood. We are nomads, eternal. And when no ocean, mountain, or sky could contain us... our gaze hungered star-ward. Afar, they mocked us with their brittle light. Winking and jeering like dangling Ayatans forever out of reach, illuminating the truth: immortal as we are - we die with the sun. That's where I come in. Jahu - Form: My departure was a day less than any other. When I stepped inside the Bell, I saw no crowd through it's seriglass. No skeptical onlookers. No regal sendoff. They all have given up on me and my paradoxical formulations. The wasted years had all shown the Void to be just that. Nothing. No energy. No entanglement. No form. To space-faring ambitions, a dead end. On the day, my laboratory was mostly vacant of witnesses, most of all, of expectation. Only my sluggish attendants, my sagacious Kavat, Kalymos, and of course my daughter. I had raised her alone but with inconsistent vigor. In those eyes, her mother's, I did see a terrible reflection. Of a man that did not exist. A brave and principled man about to make history. In truth, he was a void himself. An outcast, a joke, a nothing. Driven by my humiliation. Failure had made me bitter and reckless. I would dive Into the depths myself to prove them all wrong. I gave the signal. My daughter grasped the lever. Kalymos, then, belted out a desperate, rasping growl. But it was too late. Vome - Order: The calipers yawed open the wall between worlds, stretching there a black, trapezoidal gap. A door. A mouth. It yawned in the light of the room, splintering it to mesmerizing, unearthly hues. And I, inside the Bell, dropping obliquely toward it from my gallows. Mass and time rippled as a sudden vortex jawed before me. My head was vapor, my feet, lodestone. The Bell around me, flexed like a rat paralyzed in a winding, gulping snake. I faltered in the awe of it, stumbling against the seriglass, and with that, shifted the Bell's path through the wall. It grazed the caliper membrane, the edge of the door. No worldly edge was as thin, as sharp as could split even light. As the Bell faintly grazed it, the seriglass was all at once rendered like strips of flesh by Dax blade. My enclosure was beheaded in an instant, but still, I fell... sideways... into the Void. Fass - Chaos: Death was on me; I was certain. I was face-down, eyes clenched. My heart pulsing the last of it's seconds, and my lungs burning the last of it's air. A sudden nostalgia gripped me. I grasped desperately, for memory, of a storm, just passed, the fumbling pitch of a child's song... yet all these thoughts seemed to steal away from my mind like smoke through a vent. I would die empty. I then became aware of another sensation. Physical. A web of pain, needles itching into my arm. At once I realized: I was alive! Laying in the Bell's shattered seriglass! I groped the ground. Warm stone. The floor of my laboratory. So: I had never left... and so: I had failed. Again. I heard a crunch alongside me. Someone stepping through the shattered glass. With great shame, I gasped and rose my head to face my daughter above me. But as I open my eyes, it wasn't her. It was me. Ris - Light: The senselessness of it, the paradoxic, the vague untime form. I was alone, but not. For I stood there confronted by myself. A twin, but no brother. A reflection but with dimension. Behind him, no horizon, but a vast broiling sea of caustic light pierced at random by black-pin stars. And closer, around me, a gale of flowing vapor. Profane in color, billowing relentlessly into the nascent lack, seeking all directions. I was standing on a precipice of familiar stone, jagged and unanchored, as though cleaved directly from the very floor of my laboratory. I wondered at the vapor's path, smoking outward more, leaving behind now, the walls, the filigree gold, the rare cuts of marble from my home. I knew at once the vapor's source. I turned away, back to the wall, the trapezoid I had yawed into it. Vapor erupted inward at the gap, but not just from there. For as I rolled my eyes back, I saw the same... a great-steam of scintillation, smoking out from my skull! Dumb in awe, I faced toward my chimerical twin. He spoke. Khra - Time: An old name, unspoken in the centuries since my mother reared me. A soft hiss, soothing as a viper's gaze. Little Bengel. The other me reached out, offering his hand, gliding toward me without moving, as though the distance between us was now collapsing. A confusion, most euphoric, filled my mind. With the shred of wit that remained, I decided that I should run for my life. At once, crazed and frantic, I fled. But I made no forward progress. Instead, the world compressed evermore around me, as though I were an anchor pulling the shore to reach. When I arrived at the door, or rather, the door arrived at me, I howled, hurling myself inside. Out. And then and there, I was. Lost and unlost. Howling on the floor in harmony with my wretched Kalymos. Lacerated in flesh and heart. Scattered as the Bell glass. Spilling blood and stomach on the cold, stone floor. But I sensed the other there, at the wall's breach behind me, reaching still. I screamed, but my voice was gone. Forever. I looked, but my eyes would never see again. I swept my fist across the floor, snatching broken shards. And in gripping tightly, I filled my hands with ink. Close it! I wrote. Netra - Decay: Time, to us, is all but conquered. Our sacred Kuva moves us on to new skin. We numb to our daily, yearly, trifles... and remedy those memories that bring lasting misery. With all our misdeeds, our excess, our indignity... we are haunted by nothing. But not for me. For with each passing day, there grew within a tumorous idea. It was minute in those early days: The pale reaching digits severed on the floor... studied with reverence, with greed. And it swelled larger in the latter days: the regal domes, the Rail dedications, the unholy Zariman parade. I had put the stars within reach, but at what cost? I never spoke of him, that man, trapped in the wall. And while there have been countless souls who have followed me through, with their light-skippers, and field-wave skins, and vari-eyed instruments... not a single one ever saw him. Me. And so it is that I will not take the Kuva now. Or ever again. This is the last skin I'm In. Because of this idea: that I cannot be sure. That in all that smoked commotion, in all that panic and fear, in the bending light and blinding dark... was it I who escaped? Or the other? Lohk - Void: From brooding golfs are we beheld by that which bears no name. Its heralds are the stars it fells. The sky and Earth aflame. Corporeal laws are unwrit. As suns and love retreat. To cosmic madness, laws submit. Though stalwart minds entreat. In luminous space, blackened stars. They gaze, accuse, deny. Roiling, moaning, this realm of ours. In madness, lost shall die. Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans. To cosmic forms from tangent planes. We end as we began.
since you transcribed this into text i have only just noticed, the last monologue "Lohk - Void" the entire speech is the flavor texts of the Requiem mods put in order "lohk, xata, jahu, vome, ris, fass, netra, khra" maybe there's more to this speech than just words
@@AndrewConlan it may have something to do with Xaku or Xaku may have something to do with it. It mentions gaze accuse deny and the lost that shall die. Xakus first ability is called Xata's whisper - Truth's whisper and it covers the warframe in infested bits as if revealing that all warframes are still infested inside and also gives you void damage. The entry is called Lohk and Xaku's second ability is Grasp of Lohk - Grasp of the Void. Not sure if The Vast Untime has something to do with it all tho
Haven't seen anyone mention it here, so wanted to point out, for Khra - Time, as he talks about escaping and writing "Close it" in his own blood onto the floor, look to the bottom left, where it would normally say "Close" to close the entry, its says "Close it."
Same! I've been waiting for his return to the lore since War Within quest. Every time he shows up in my ship I'm so curious! Now with this link to him and upcoming Duvari just makes me so happy with DE
@@masterking905 Not quite. In the Netra entry Albrecht mentions the fingers increased in size over time. Given how the Man In The Wall seems to be formed from the impressions of the individual's consciousness, "he" can probably take any form. The fingers were just the part that got solidified into the material realm. Their size increase might signify the Void's connection to the waking world getting stronger though.
The beginning to me is incredibly similar to Carl Sagan's "Wanders". Even the how he speaks is similar in pauses that Carl would make in the audiologs. Words like "Nomads" "Wanderlust" "Unseen shores" are almost perfect pairs to the work. The more I listen to this the more certain I am that there was a direct influence.
In my years as a Warframe player this was the lore that got me to come back once again. there was something different about this content update, wherein I wasn't focused on getting a weapon, a warframe, a railjack. I found myself grinding through the Entrati faction for the lore and the family members naming each other alone. and I love it Duviri paradox I can't wait
0:00 Xata - Truth 1:21 Jahu - Form 3:08 Vome - Order 4:28 Fass - Chaos 5:52 Ris - Light 7:21 Khra - Time 9:05 Netra - Decay 10:51 Lohk - Void In order: Lohk - Void: From Brooding Gulfs are we beheld by that which bears no name. Xata - Truth Its Heralds are the stars it fells, the sky and earth aflame. Jahu - Form Corporeal Laws are unwrit, as suns and love retreat Vome - Order To Cosmic Madness, laws submit, though stalwart minds entreat. Ris - Light In Luminous space blackened stars; They gaze, accuse, deny. Fass - Chaos Roiling, moaning, this realm of ours, in madness lost shall die. Netra - Decay Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans. Khra - Time To cosmic forms from tangent planes, we end as we began.
@@aravinds3846 Oull could be basically what The Divine Comedy is to The Bible in that it was unofficially written by some other person who was obsessed with the source material (Like, say, Dante for the former and either Mother or Grandmother for the latter) yet still is heavily associated with the real thing.
I absolutely love the parallel in which in the beginning he goes on to detail his failures, how he hadn’t amounted to much regarding the void, to how his chance encounter ended up changing every little thing they knew about the universe itself. It’s why I think the idea that he wasn’t the real Albrecht became stronger in the later years. Not only had they never seen “the man trapped in the wall” again, but they had done so many previously unimaginable advances in science and the void. He was so different from himself when he began his research he didn’t believe himself to be really him anymore. I could be wrong, but I hope it makes sense :)
Now we know that Albrecht was the inadvertent creator of Wally according to an NPC in Duviri. When he stumbled into the void, his fear converged with void energy and that manifested a physical embodiment of his fear, The Man In The Wall.
as far as i can tell he didnt create it but he was the 1st creature to become aware of the MitW and unknowingly made IT aware of our realm and eventually take an interest in it when the orokin started ot utlize the Void as their means of FTL.
It sounds like the Void itself in quantum in nature, it can morph into something physical by conscious observation. Albretch Entrati went full in into the deeps of the void and the void itself manifested his fear into Wally. On a similar note, I think the Tenno did the complete opposite, their courage manifested a second incarnation of the man in the wall that was willing to gave them power, but in nature Wally it’s still fear, two sides of the same coin Edit: this also gets in line with how Duviri came to be, and how it morphs according to Dominus Thrax mood swings
he didnt kill himself, he refused to mantian his pseudo immortality because what he experienced there made him fear if he truly got away or the MitW did and if it was the latter he didnt want ot give it immortality.
More like he wasn't a 100% that he actually escaped or if the man in the wall was really the one who escaped the void that and he was afraid of ever meeting him again to the point that he decided to let himself die of old age both so he wouldn't ever meet the man in the wall again but also so that if the man in the wall was really the one who escaped he'd be denied an immortal physical body.
Time shenanigans and 1999 make more sense now. “The oil and the smoke”, there is no way for an orokin to know of the era that humanity depended on fossil fuel without going that far back as I suspect warframe is a few thousand years from now.
@@Sam_Graves true, but a quiet nebula of atomized matter seems more peaceful then the void nightmares would allow to happen. Something more like Magnus Archive eyemageddon is what i picture.
I never took the time to listen to these before, but lately I've really been getting into the lore of the game. It's so fucking dark, and I love it so much
"The Door of Lohk was before us, I had my profs, and my father's...I could hear him tapping at the untime door, but he wasn't there...my husband congratulated me...sarcastic halfwit...but it doesn't matter, it was all a dream" Dude, what the fuck has mother being doing ? Or even better, what HAPPENED to Albrech ? In the Cosmic Clock he expecifies that he does not want to take the Kuva anymore, but by what Mother says, by what Father implies, Albrech didn't "die", he disappeared...
Perhaps, she thinks Albrecht remained in the Void and returned from it both. In that case, it is possible for him to have died in reality and lived in unreality.
I would guess that Mother has tried to replicate Albrech's experiment, but she failed (or the door only opened "partially") since the seriglass can't be restored (when Mother wakes confused Loid awnsers her saying "that wasn't a dream, Mother, it really happened", although i didn't pay too much attention at first, so i might be a bit off)
You probably got to r5 by now, but Mother is holding a random seriglass shard and forgot her Dad is dead. Like they all forgot things like their own names.
@@justicegutierrez6847 If anything these are our biggest hints are Duuviri Paradox which canonically should come next in the story. It's crazy that they hinted at 2 operators before the New War even released.
Its beginning to make some sense now. I do believe that our operators are like Alberect's void twin and the adult tenno we see in the Duviri Paradox cinematic are the true tenno.
@@necrogenisis Wasn't it in the Limbo Profile video? I don't remember where its mentioned but whenever people mistake the rift from the void, the general reply is the rift is between the void and material plane. Its also why he was named Limbo. The inbetweener of planes.
@@ixiahj Neither the original, nor revisited profile say that. As far I understand it, and given how Limbo's abilities operate, the Rift is a plane/dimension overlaying our own. That's why being in the Rift allows limited interaction with the physical world.
Yeah, also, how many fingers did the entity have? Assuming (and there's no reason not to) ever Railjack has a Reliquery drive. Or, what, did Orkoin have only 10 Railjacks?
Something tells me that possibly our tenno who we are in the game are these twin reflections from the void and the adult tenno in the duviri paradox are our real selves? Just speculation but Albrechts info kinda sounds like its possible. We somehow got replaced by them and our real selves are in the void, unable to use void powers?
I'm almost inclined to think that the Zariman Ten-0 really hadn't any other children besides Rell as the manifest accuses. The Tenno could be the extrapolation of the tripulation in the age Rell had.
I consider it more like this, when the Zariman entered the void it split into 2 identical copies of itself people within it exactly the same, only that one Zariman was able to exit the Void.
@Bump thrust I'm still confused about what the man in the wall is, if it is the Void itself or not, but I strongly believe that the man in the wall is just a manifestation of the Shadow archetype of the psyche, our choices in the quests reflects on how much that inner demon is controlled by ourselves. The best choice is always the neutral (controlled). We are our man in the wall.
This man chose death over MAYBE seeing the man in the wall again now that just sheds a hole new light on the man in the wall as some demon creature that even a man with such smart and straight chose to die then see him again
@@TheDoomclaw True, no one is appreciating the story..... Even the "Content Creator" are sulking, cuz the story is given more thought than to their Insatiable hunger of virtual Genocide...
BRO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BRO IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY BRO PLEASE BRO JUST PICK A NUKEFRAME BRO I SWEAR BRO IT'S FUN BRO IT'S NOT CHEESE BRO PLEASE BRO GOD YOU'RE SO STUBBORN AND SHORT-SIGHTED BRO WHY DON'T YOU PICK SARYN, MESA OR ANYTHING "GOOD" BRO????!!!!!?!?!??!?!!??!/1/1/1
@DX Stxnly Alien as in originated from different worlds if humans lived on another world for millenia and adapted to the enviroment so that they physically different they would be truly alien since we share an origin world.
I have attempted to break down the poem/prophecy at the end of these logs, line by line, in order to grasp its meaning. This is what I have come up with... From brooding gulfs are we beheld, by that which bears no name... --This line speaks of the man in the wall, the being that bears no name, and describes how he broods/sulks as he watches the Tenno (and the inhabitants of the real world) from the gulf/coastline/edge of the world between worlds. Its heralds are the stars it fells, the sky and earth aflame... --This line tells the reader that the destruction of the known universe, in any capacity, serves as a herald for the man in the wall (I.E. - falling stars and/or dying planets); the being who will ultimately destroy all of reality (foreshadowing) Corporeal laws are unwrit as sons, and love, retreat; to cosmic madness, laws submit, though stalwart minds entreat... --This line speaks of the power of the man in the wall, and how the laws of the universe, as well as the things within said universe, submit to that power; all except for the members of mankind, who, in their perceived intelligence, try to ingratiate themselves to the void through scientific formulas, in order to learn its secrets. In luminous space, blackened stars, they gaze, accuse, deny... --This line describes the physical appearance of the world between worlds (white space with black stars), the dwelling place of the man in the wall, and through the personification of this space, informs the reader what the man in the wall does in the world between worlds. He gazes upon the Tenno, and the inhabitants of the real world. He watches them, accuses them of sin, and denies them any form of mercy. Roiling, moaning, this realm of ours, in madness, lost, shall die... --This line speaks of the deterioration of reality at the hands of the man in the wall, here identified as "madness." In addition, this line talks about how the Tenno's present reality is lost, both literally (as it is doomed to die) and figuratively (as the inhabitants of reality have no idea that they're headed to a sure destruction), and how it is ultimately doomed to be destroyed by the man in the wall (in madness, lost, shall die). Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans... --This line talks about the Orokin, and how they, in their dying and decaying bodies (their carrion), practically parade their sick and twisted means of achieving immortality across the cosmos (trilling their profane accord, as they brag about the continuity); all so that they can accomplish the evil schemes they have cooked up in their minds, their eldritch plans, if you will (like sending out the Sentients to find new worlds to exploit and destroy). To cosmic forms, from tangent planes, we end, as we, began. --This line talks about how all physical/ tangible things in the Tenno's present reality, including the Tenno themselves (and all other forms of life), are destined to transition into more cosmic/ethereal forms. What's more, this line tells the reader that all of the physical/tangible things in the Tenno's present reality, first started out as cosmic/ethereal constructs (to cosmic forms, from tangent planes, we end, as we, began).
This makes me consider a possibility that The Indifference is not sentient or intelligent in any meaningful sense, and is instead a manifestation of jumbled thoughts and memories pulled out of the individual upon direct contact with the Void. Don't get me wrong - that would not make it any less dangerous or terrifying. Imagine everything you can think of attempting to interact with you all at once with no clear goal or order while simultaneously putting your mind in a chaotic state, all the while incorporating this inner chaos into reality all around you. A completely tangible psychedelic trip. Extremely volatile.
There is something about that last segment, i think it hints at direction the story will go. The "that which bares no name" is the man in the wall. "it's heralds" are the Tenno. "the sky and earth aflame" War against the sentients ravaging the system, or generally the factions waging war against each other? "Corporeal laws are unwrit" clearly revering to the void/the Tennos abilities From here on out, alot of future predictions: "as suns an love retreat" Love as in Lotus, the "loving mother" of the Tenno, and reflection of Margulis, the lover of Ballas has effectively retreated. "suns" could either refer to the inhabitants of the Tau, the Sentients or refer to the Star of Sol being destroyed (perhaps a conclusion to the new war, that it just disappears into the Void or is engulved by the sentients?) "To cosmic madness, laws submit" the Void being unleashed at or sucking in the entire Origin system? "In luminous space, blackend stars" Again, another line generally refering to the void "they gaze, accuse, deny." Whose "they"? The Tenno? The Orokin definitly acted as Judge, Jury and Executioner back in the day. Maybe the Duviri? As with that one concept art of this guy sitting in a throne that kinda looks like it was grown by sentient technology... "Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans." Idk, this could be teasing some eldritch void related faction for the future, or possibly the Infested get buffed once the Void sucks in the Origin System. "To cosmic forms from tangent planes" Refering to the Tennos void shadow form? Or is the Man in the Wall trying to physically manifest itself, whatever it may be, in the non-void realm... "we end as we began" Just a wild quess, but given the recent time related shenanigans with void, perhaps the story is set to end in a timeloop? Or that could refer to the Duviri Paradox, our Tenno, ending up where they began, and eventually growing older.
Me when I first got the game: "WOO! FREE SPACE NINJA GAME" Me, now, five years later: "Oh, I'm an eldritch abomination approximation of a possibly living person, neat."
At around 4:30 ...the auto-generated subtitles display the word "void" strongly delayed...as if even they, unthinking code, nothing but unfeeling, unbeing automations...knew to fear the very concept. I know of course that that is just how I perceive it, but...it nonetheless feels strangely poetic.
Hah. This whole ordeal just proves that Nef has NEVER really been to the Void or back. He just sells all that Void mumbo-jumbo to make money. No one returns the same from the other side, as seeing the light changes your whole perception of time, space, and existence.
DE nailed it in this whole eldritch horror thing about the man in the wall. Imagine a man, scientist, preferer not to continue imortal, because he does not know if was him or the thing that escape the void through the trapezoid. Or a autistic boy with void powers (Rell) that was cast out and denied of the cryosleep, (maybe because the orokins deeming rell unfit for the combat againts the sentients) choose willingly to sacrifice his body to put his spirit in his warframe to prevent the man in the wall to cross to our plane. And neither the two of them knows how to describe entirely the man in the wall. Bro this is pure HP lovecraft shit.
Rell didn't heed the call of the Lotus to return to the Dream because he was the only one at the time to see the threat and the scope of it, bound to Harrow as he was he founded the Red Veil and kept The Man back for as long as he could. just wanted to clarify that.
Fun fact: only Euleria, Albrecht’s daughter, believe he was still alive somewhere in the Void. She still held a shard of his seriglass bell, believing she would found a way to find him once again. Yet It is unknown whether she have access to his secret research of the Void The same seriglass shard she mutilated Vilcor, the same seriglass shard Dagath - the grandmother - kept secret from the family
Since reuniting the family as Ayatan things have mellowed down a little... but I confess, keeping the truth from Gomaitru now makes me uneasy, knowing what she did last time with Vilcor when it concerns Albrecht.
Stopping to think on it. What if there indeed were no kids on the Zariman? That the grownup we saw in the Duviri Paradox teaser was neither some quantum duplicate or a future self, but instead our original selves, the original Zariman crew members, that never escaped the void, while the tenno we think of are in fact the strange reflections that left the void with us still technically trapped within?
Exactly. After Ember Prime codex entry and the entire operator arc, it will be the biggest plot twist of all to time in warframe lore. DE is definitely doing it.
I need a version of these with visualizations. How poingant would "Our radiation wars, our oil, our smoke" be to the back drop of a nuclear bomb, an oil mining field and a factory bellowing smoke...
The man in the wall in the lote is some kinda eldrich being that makes your entire existence go funky mode meanwhile his current presence in game is just “hEy KiDdO” every once in a while
Virgin Lore Theorists: "The man in the wall’s name is just an allegory, he's an all-seeing entity that is constantly watching. A physical manifestation of the Tenno's guilt, created by the void to haunt them."
The Chad Literal Man in the Wall: OULL RIS XATA. VOME KHRA LOHK.
Rell said its literally a man in the wall but we didn't believe him
@@maniestranger4329 Like in the real world, nobody believes an autistic person even when they turn out to be right
@@maniestranger4329 That boy didn't lie; that man sure can wall.
Man that man surely was a wall
Man that wall was surely manly
This man has such a perfect voice that even the auto generated subtitles are listening to him perfectly.
Only things I found was it said 'sagacious coward ' instead of 'sagacious Kavat ' and it said wrists instead of Ris(name of one of the parazon mods)
@Regicide Still it was pretty interesting to see how it interpreted them.
I know right he fits the the character so well and we didn’t even see his face but he just works
Ayatans is showed as Items
And Seriglass is Sarah glass lol
whatever they're paying the VA, it's not enough
It's sad to me so many gamers only know Warframe as an action looter, and not as a deeper, darker tragedy of errors and ambitions failed or even worse, realized.
Jesus chris these are fucked up
The best things about warframe are hidden under hundreds hours of gameplay
Same thing with the music most know it for the "We all Lift Together, This is Who You Are, Smiles of Juran" yet amazing tracks of HoD, Deadlock protocol, Your Creator exist
i mean it's not exactly their fault when most of the non-quest lore is hard to find in the first place. locking Sigor Savah's lore behind the occasional Ghoul bounties will only make it read by a handful
@@Raikeran never done a ghoul bounty xD
"...the rare cuts of marble from my home." He just had to sneak in that flex okay
He's an Orokin- privilege personified. marble and gold are to him what brick and mortar are to us.
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 there was definitely some amount of flexing in that line, however subconscious
It’s a reference to “The Mask” from “The King in Yellow”, which is also where the black stars in a light filled sky comes from.
@@calebsmith4530 it's good sci Fi when the pee king's around
"Was it I who escaped? or... *the other...?* "
This is it, this is the Duviri Paradox.
I believe the adult Tenno we saw in the trailer were actually the *real* Tenno, aging into adults as natural, meanwhile the void copies that escaped is what we are controlling in-game, we are reflections on a mirror, but unlike the real thing, we are eternal, we don't age, we are forever children.
Maybe this is what the void does, it creates a copy of the person at that specific moment of exposure and superimposes that onto their timeline, all the while, The Man In The Wall may be the *void itself* , the Lovecraftian entity that is beyond our perception and tricks us, manipulates our life threads as if we were puppets.
Something to think about.
reminds me of the movie annihliation, with the themes of copies, and who is the real person and who is the copy
All I can say to this is FUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK.
It could also be the reverse. The adult Tenno are reflections of what would happen if they never left the void
But then again, why does the Man in the wall say that we owe him something, and "There is something out there kiddo; watching us". These are not the words that you would expect from the Void incarnate, are they?
@@ghostnest3042 Someome else in this comment section, the Albrecht lore (and the Rell comics i think) indicate that the man in the wall repeats (for some reason) what the parents of the person he's mimicking said. "Kiddo" was a nickname used by the tenno's parents just like "Little Bengel" was used by Albrecht's mother, he is simply repeating what they said to us and therefore those phrases make perfect sense. " Someone is watching" that someone is the man in the wall and that was our parents, scared, telling us this.
This major content update has the Infestation on center stage, and yet they manage to be the least unsettling thing about the update.
Yeah the orokin are fuuucked up
@1010010111001010 No the daughter mentions that they are too far gone because the infestation taking over them is changing and mutating too quick. All they can do is delay the effects.
1010010111001010 only way I can think of is getting a new body through Kuva
True. Nothing in WF history has ever been as unsettling as Scintillant drop rate.
@@monkeywage The only reason Thaumica isint as bad is because of the requim obelisks, mining them is just a waste of time.
"Little Bengel". As in the german "Bengel"? It means brat. But in a more endearing way. It's Albrechts "Hey Kiddo". Just as his parents called him, and as our father on the Ten-Zero called us.
Might also be a reference to Johann Albrecht Bengel
LOL "Little Brat"
Pretty sure it's a reference to Bengal Tigers considering we play as SpaceWeebs
The interesting part of that is how it fits the overarching "family" thematics of Warframe, you know, how our "maternal figure" keeps on getting ripped away from us, how the sentients treat each other as members of one giant family, how we got "adopted" by the Entrati, The Void is playing a role game, trying to pull the emotional strings of people who venture into it's dimension
I always thought he was being called a fucking cat lmao
Notice how Albrecht states all the sections of this with names that correspond to Requiems, ending with Lohk. Once he gets to Lohk, he recites a poem, with verses that correlate with the Requiems, as well, in the same order, except for one; Lohk. The poem starts with Lohk, void, and the entries end with it.
We end as we began.
So it may imply that TMITW is the creator-god or at least the void was what began it all?
@@lucasbrav131
Well, I suppose we know now, lmao.
@@lucasbrav131the void is what made this all possible it seems, without Wally breaching into our system from Albrecht's void research, there wouldn't be Orokin, and without Orokin there wouldn't be a Wally.
It's a bootstrap paradox, none of the two parts can exist without the other, and in Warframe: 1999, it seems that Wally is trying to make it so he exists in every single timeline by setting the universe in motion to create the Orokin, and by virtue of that, Albrecht.
Which tells me that Wally is vulnerable to being stopped and created, but only if he attempts it in another universe.
He may be killable in that moment, but only then, and only for that universe.
Which may be a hint that we are not going back in time, but to another universe before Wally creates himself there. What comes after that battle in response in our universe by his reaction to our actions in the parallel one, is anyone's guess. @@DakkaSolae
"Immortal as we are... we die with the Sun..."
This quote really gives me the chills don't know why tho
Because the sun will explode then generate a black hole, which will destroy a lot of planets that orbit it
@@dredvax No, the glory of singularity is not the fate that awaits at the end. First the sun, spent of fuel and yet ever thirsting, expands. Engulfing those that dwell inside the belt, perhaps save red Mars. Then contracting begins. Shells of gas are spat out into entrancing nebulae. Those not consumed by the expansion will be bombarded by these ejections. A cycle of expansion and begins only ending when after it's last materials cast off, the core of our once noble lies naked, cooling inthe vastness of eternity as a white dwarf.
@@dredvax our son doesn't has the mass to do so
Hmm, doesn't exploiter also specifically mention the sun in relation to death?
Edit: I checked and while it doesn't seem to be related to this, The exploiter does mention the sun in it's death dialogue
"And... so I turn, from the tumult of the world... toward home... that sweetest spot... 'neath the circuit... of the sun..."
I think in a lot of ways this sort of times up with us. And where we are going in the future.. it’s chilling because it can be applied to us
You are late.
It's concerning isn't it
Next time we won't be
I hope we get more y2k combat stuff
We end as we began
Meh
Lesson learned; be careful when you try to get a deeper understanding of the very concept of nothing, because you may not be mentally or emotionally ready for when that nothing decides on a whim to be _something..._
The real void madness is getting the avichea tags to rank up
As all flying animals in warframe's open worlds, they spawn way up in the sky and away from the "nest"
@@Bergensape or they spawn inside the terrain....
@@anceptor1955 yes :c
@@anceptor1955 Or they just don't spawn at all.
I got lucky and bought them for 15 plat ez helminth 4 me
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It was at this point that I realised that the exit prompt is labelled 'Close it'.
I noticed that as well, nice touch DE
Very nice touch, and pretty creepy
Creepy detail! I love/hate it!
I don’t get it :/
@@killerinstinct9954 When going through the individual journal entries, the exit prompt on each one is labelled 'close'. Only on Ris, where the story culminates in a message written in blood, as Albrecht begs his daughter to close the wall of Lohk ('Close it') is the prompt replaced with 'Close it'.
Me getting blueballsed by warframe lore again for the 4th year
Give it up for day 969!
For those wondering about the label with which Albrecht is addressed with by the hissing voice, " little Bengel''. Bengel is a german word, a teasing label for a misbehaving boy.
"little bengel" Somewhat, Similar to "hey kiddo" which our "FATHER" from the zariman calls us that manifest through the void entities dialogue.. we have 2 moms now, infested mom & space mom,, could the void be the "father" figure? Lol
@@japzy76 the man in the wall calls us that wqy because he is the one that gave us the transference power
Remember the war within? "Hey, kiddo! Dont forget, you are nothing without me"
"You owe me" etc
I thought perhaps a personal nickname from childhood, in reference to bengal cats perhaps from a time long past
"I heard a crunch alongside me, someone stepping through the shattered glass...
With great shame, I gasped and raised my head to face my daughter above me,
but as I oppened my eyes... It wasn't her...
I - It was ME..."
Tell me that this didn't give you the chills...
Even Albrecht himself stumbled recording this PROBABLY DACADES AFTER THE EXPERIMENT, judging from what he says about thinking and doing extensive experimentation. He even mentioned the Zariman 10-0, meaning he had already built the Reliquary Drive...
So incredible! So as I understand this, Albrecht developed void travel but never told anyone who he saw in the void. A lurking monster under the waves, yet he delivered ships to the Orokin. Then he doesn't take the Kuva, chosing to end his journey never to sail in that sea that he sent his fellow Orokin into. For beneath those waves lurked something he could never fathom.
DE is just fantastic with their writing!
His wager seemed to have almost worked. We have no reason to assume that other ships met a fate remotely similar to the Zariman 10-0, before or after.
@@Psyfux Wasn't Granum's ship lost in the Void during his attempted assassination by the Corpus Board?
@@Arcantropolo Yes but he seemed to somehow have created his own realm within the void. He also as far we know hasn't encountered the man in the wall. Though it may be that protea saved and protected him from the void, and her specter did after she passed.
"We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far."
No Albercht seems to have asked void travelers about seeing a clone/him there, but nobody said they did.
"Its heralds, are the stars it fells" = Ayatan = Tenno = Starchild
Oh...
_oh no_
Also fallen star -> fallen angel -> Lucifer, I.e. "Void Devils" -> upcoming content crawling our way back to the Zariman, from whence we fell, wherein now lurk 'angels'
Granted, the parallels to Christian symbolism are probably as significant as they are in Evangelion: looks cool, that's all
oh I was thinking about the line "I brought the stars within reach"
the stars that were unreachable high in the sky were brought within reach - "felled" by the development of FTL/space travel
The murmers and the fragmented ones ✅
So, he met the Man, and chose to truly die so he wouldn't chance another meeting
I think I get why we, the Tenno are sorta like Albrech. While he was in relative terms, directly exposed to the void for a 'short' time, it was able to react and form from his memories and the ambient thoughts pouring in from the gate. We, were stranded in a ship with untold numbers of people for what was years in realspace, could've been centuries or millennia, potentially a great many hull breaches gave the Void plenty of connection to react to the us and the rest of the occupants.
We might not have even returned from the Void in the first place but merely materialized void constructs, ship and all. The Duviri Paradox might just be us returning to our "source", our real bodies.
Oh man that would be such a great development! It'll be like second dream all over again, us waking up again. I wouldn't even be mad, that would be great writing
The Third Dream
@@MrPF The true dream.
Your idea is much better than any stoner from DE could ever imagine.
@@echostarling84 Adult operators as the main operators is something I would like a lot.
"Ruin has come to our family"
Again old Man? How many times we need to teach you not to mess witch eldritch abominations?
oh wow i just noticed it now... his voice is really similar to the old man in darkest dungeon...
This guy is up there with Wayne June for this to me.
Fun fact: Heart of Deimos was supposed to launch AFTER the New War quest, after seeing Mr. Entrati story this “continuity” makes so much sense, finding out there was another person that also experimented having a “twin” just like us, it’s a shame that Deimos had to be put in before, the Entrati family will play a huge role in the future im sure about it
Edit: I CALLED IT!!! WHISPERS IN THE WALL BABY
I doubt that, where did you hear it was supposed to come after new war?
Clues are dropped that are not supposed to make sense until a grand reveal at the climax. Its less interesting if it merely tells us things we already know. From a story telling perspective it makes more sense that this was supposed to be first. Do you have a source where it was said this was supposed to be released after new war.
My man is full of drip looking like Jotaro and Aiden Pierce
I love how with each of them it obviously says ‘Close’ in the corner
But Khra? With him wanting to close the gate?
‘Close It’
Such a nice little detail
Dang, good catch!
“Immortal as we are, we die with the sun” prophetic.
I really like learning about the men and women who shaped the Warframe universe. Silvana, Margulis, Ballas, Parvos Granum, and now Albrecht. I've always liked history, and this lore makes the universe of Warframe seem so much more, I don't know, real?
The lore to Warframe is so goddamn amazing. Especially this. Warframe was always awesome to me, but I only recently realised that it's one of my favorite games of all time.
I've never played a game on and off for over 6 YEARS. And the lore is one of the key reasons. I cannot wait for the Duviri Paradox.
So far, we've never been IN the Void. Sure we've gone through gates and piloted frames in towers inside the Void space. But we ourselves? Out IN the madness? Not yet. I think once we take that irreversible step, we'll see the darkest storyline DE has to offer. I for one, can't wait to see it.
Didn't Lotus hide lua/reservoir in the void, with us in it?
@@itsVilu That is "domesticated" void, so to speak. Orokin void towers really are in the void, but it's different. You can see it like this: imagine you are an alien and you visit Manhattan. You can't really say that you know what planet Earth is like because you've only seen the subjugated part of it. The weather doesn't matter, the temperatures are adjustable, no predator animals out to kill us, all life sustaining resources are available for money. You rarely ever have to leave the safety of your home. An alien wouldn't know what Earth really is like until you put it into a dense rainforest, for example.
@@itsVilu Yeah, buy we were protected in the reservoir, and not directly exposed to the void
@@itsVilu but we were sleeping in the moon
@@operatorverona Fair enough, if that's what the lore says.
I gotta say, these entries really did well on building around the Duviri Paradox and the threat the man in the wall possesses.
The orokin are known as immortals, they can and have died a hundred deaths to the point they forgot the meaning of fear because they would just come back from it.
And yet Albrecht in his void travelling experiment, came across something that made him swear off the immortality forever, something that made him choose death over witnessing whatever entity was in that voidspace ever again.
Could be a Lovecraftian short story. Love it.
Without all the xenophobia, racism, and ignorance of air conditioning
@@catnerdadrian7601 Oh Lovecraft. He had some really weird ideas.
He pioneered cosmic horror lol so ofc its all
If you want the voice actor for this reads short stories for a podcast called the Nightmare Magazine.
@@FlyingDoveExScopress Ambrose Bierce. Ambrose Bierce is who your thinking of, Lovecraft just happened to get popular.
After watching this i'm pretty sure there's a philosopher working at DE
I dunno how many hours I've spent listening to this. I'm so goddamn ready for 1999
Damn, the voice acting and the writing i love it! Gave me actual chills, i hope there's more at some point!
Right?!? Stefan Rudnicki (va) just crushed this reading, hope this isn't the last we hear from the Albrecht Entrati character
@@MartyOsuna weeeeelll
Holy crap I'm so glad they brought this voice actor back for him in warframe1999!! I love this voice so much.
"Was it I who escaped? Or..The other...?" Immediate chills down my body.
Where
@@BenevolentBloodhound 10:20
@@MadameBitch King 👑
Whoever voiced this did an amazing job. So much feeling.
That last one, Lohk, isn't just a poem. That's a description of the Void not just as a place, but an entity. And it sounds like its giving hints as to what its motives are.
some people say is a prophecy for deimos and how it got infested
A story told through a poem, still a poem. One we already had. You really aren't as smart as you think you are.
@@ZRo69 You're malding pretty bad right now huh? Sorry I pointed out stuff you missed buddy. Try practicing non-literal thinking, you won't have to be hand held through every piece of lore then.
@@summanus4437 No "buddy" I didn't miss anything. Try practicing not being a dick and thinking yourself so special and above everyone else.
@@ZRo69 Holy shit How are you seething over lore, calm down buddy, let people especulate instead of Being a pain in The ass
This man's voice sounds a lot like Wayne June, the (imo) best Lovecraft audio book narrator. Fitting, as this story does sound rather Lovecraftian in some ways.
So when we use the requiem mods on the liches, we literally hit em with a localized void-disconnect chant salvaged from bits of Albrecht's research
I wonder if we are banishing them to something? Or is it just death?
@@whatisthisgaming4467 we hit em with the "Close it." command, localized to their own void access. It's like cutting off their crack supply except instead of crack it's void powers.
Their ability to keep using powers if converted kinda spits in the face of this, tho
@@quantumblauthor7300 could handwave it as conversion subverting this connection to yourself instead of cutting it off hence causing the Lich to now be bound to you.
@@quantumblauthor7300 Cuz it could be interpreted as something else. "Switch Off" as it could be a void-connected mechanism, you always need to have a shutdown button if you're gonna make an immortal soldier, but ofcourse the void demons have the higher ground and have better control with this so y'know you can't really shut them down (for good)
As a traitor primarch chicken once said: "We are litteraly MADE of void stuff"
If grinner given kuva could become somewhat a Tenno ripoff with void power and resurrection, but weak to 3 void keywords, does that mean you could permanently kill a tenno with same requiem words?
Duviri paradox: Door, Time, Void, The twin paradox.
Heart of Deimos: Mirror door, Void, void twin / man in the wall, “to enter”
Yeah, I smell Duviri!
I’m actually really excited I feel like this is really going to connect us to The New War/ Plains of Duviri with everything I’ve seen so far
I personally believe Heart of Deimos is a prologue of sorts to Duviri
@@nplt8263 Same. There's too much for it to not be.
for "time", at Deimos, you have the Cosmic Clock
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(the things at Necraloid)
Remember Tenno, overformaing is a slow and insidious killer!
*snorts kuva and headbashes into the table*
DiD yOu SaY fOrMa?
darkest dungeon reference :P
say that to the certain Vauban main.
@@themirror8994 fuuuuck thiss made me shit laughing
@@themirror8994 yeeeees
*FEAR THE OLD BLOOD*
Fear the old blood...
Fear the old blood
Umbasa
If the void is the dream, then the Man in the Wall is the one dreaming.
Would be wild if we're the man in the wall: the person behind the screen. The game is our dream, the void is our reality, connected to the game's world but incomprehensible to their residents. Something akin to the Minecraft ending monologue/poem.
*Don't Mind Me... Just Relaxing Myself Listening to Albrich after Seeing the Man in the Wall in the New War*
This was exceptional to listen to all the way through, thank you for compiling this. I was hoping for a much bigger reveal in the last entry to answer more questions, however what the whole thing reveals about the Void, and how, in ONE update, this lore ties together the Lich Requiems, Railjack, the Man in the Wall, the Orokin...I know people were hoping for gameplay stuff like boss battles or big powerful weapons as rewards for maxing standing, but THIS, to me, is far better a reward than any of those things that just get treated like chores or toys to get thrown in the closet.
This yields discussion, analysis, THOUGHT...far more important for a repetitive looter game to have that type of carrot as motivation than just trinkets and physical stuff. Hell, even the comments below, from the looks of it, are absolutely tickled to be discussing these aspects of the story more finally. It's great to see. :-D
Well. Like Vox Solaris this one is missing a few ranks and we still don't have acess to the others necramech they shown on tennocon's relay. I bet we'll have a boss fight to (be forced) use it.
@@chicomaroto I'm not sure it's missing ranks. I think DE wanted to coordinate the proofs we unlock with the amount of Requiem words exist, which was a good decision. Less ranks to grind to max, but also making the 8 Requiems a significant number rather than padding it out with two additional Necraloid ranks just to make it an even 5 for no reason.
That said yes, we will be getting new mechs or mech parts, and I believe weapons. Boss fights specifically using the mechs probably, that would be awesome, though I think we'll be able to use the mechs in the other open world areas, so bare minimum against existing open world bosses. Apparently some people are already doing it to incredible effect.
Even though it only makes up maybe 5% of my time in Warframe, the story and especially the exposition and character interaction scenes to me are the most compelling parts of this universe. I hope in the future they will focus more on these aspects - more psychological dialogue and interesting exposition, less climactic action à la new War "devouring the sun".
0:01 Xata - Truth
1:21 Jahu - Form
3:08 Vome - Order
4:28 Fass - Chaos
5:52 Ris - Light
7:18 Khra - Time
9:05 Netra - Decay
10:51 Lohk - Void
Xata - Truth: It began long before us, we who now live our perfect and dull, endless lives. It began long before these moon-palaces and body-markets hurling around our golden sun. It began long before our light-coil thinkers, our radiation wars, our oil, smoke. It began with us. The continuity and it's twin wanderlust. The need for unseen shores deep in our marrow. No judge, jester, queen, or king can escape this old blood. We are nomads, eternal. And when no ocean, mountain, or sky could contain us... our gaze hungered star-ward. Afar, they mocked us with their brittle light. Winking and jeering like dangling Ayatans forever out of reach, illuminating the truth: immortal as we are - we die with the sun. That's where I come in.
Jahu - Form: My departure was a day less than any other. When I stepped inside the Bell, I saw no crowd through it's seriglass. No skeptical onlookers. No regal sendoff. They all have given up on me and my paradoxical formulations. The wasted years had all shown the Void to be just that. Nothing. No energy. No entanglement. No form. To space-faring ambitions, a dead end. On the day, my laboratory was mostly vacant of witnesses, most of all, of expectation. Only my sluggish attendants, my sagacious Kavat, Kalymos, and of course my daughter. I had raised her alone but with inconsistent vigor. In those eyes, her mother's, I did see a terrible reflection. Of a man that did not exist. A brave and principled man about to make history. In truth, he was a void himself. An outcast, a joke, a nothing. Driven by my humiliation. Failure had made me bitter and reckless. I would dive Into the depths myself to prove them all wrong. I gave the signal. My daughter grasped the lever. Kalymos, then, belted out a desperate, rasping growl. But it was too late.
Vome - Order: The calipers yawed open the wall between worlds, stretching there a black, trapezoidal gap. A door. A mouth. It yawned in the light of the room, splintering it to mesmerizing, unearthly hues. And I, inside the Bell, dropping obliquely toward it from my gallows. Mass and time rippled as a sudden vortex jawed before me. My head was vapor, my feet, lodestone. The Bell around me, flexed like a rat paralyzed in a winding, gulping snake. I faltered in the awe of it, stumbling against the seriglass, and with that, shifted the Bell's path through the wall. It grazed the caliper membrane, the edge of the door. No worldly edge was as thin, as sharp as could split even light. As the Bell faintly grazed it, the seriglass was all at once rendered like strips of flesh by Dax blade. My enclosure was beheaded in an instant, but still, I fell... sideways... into the Void.
Fass - Chaos: Death was on me; I was certain. I was face-down, eyes clenched. My heart pulsing the last of it's seconds, and my lungs burning the last of it's air. A sudden nostalgia gripped me. I grasped desperately, for memory, of a storm, just passed, the fumbling pitch of a child's song... yet all these thoughts seemed to steal away from my mind like smoke through a vent. I would die empty. I then became aware of another sensation. Physical. A web of pain, needles itching into my arm. At once I realized: I was alive! Laying in the Bell's shattered seriglass! I groped the ground. Warm stone. The floor of my laboratory. So: I had never left... and so: I had failed. Again. I heard a crunch alongside me. Someone stepping through the shattered glass. With great shame, I gasped and rose my head to face my daughter above me. But as I open my eyes, it wasn't her. It was me.
Ris - Light: The senselessness of it, the paradoxic, the vague untime form. I was alone, but not. For I stood there confronted by myself. A twin, but no brother. A reflection but with dimension. Behind him, no horizon, but a vast broiling sea of caustic light pierced at random by black-pin stars. And closer, around me, a gale of flowing vapor. Profane in color, billowing relentlessly into the nascent lack, seeking all directions. I was standing on a precipice of familiar stone, jagged and unanchored, as though cleaved directly from the very floor of my laboratory. I wondered at the vapor's path, smoking outward more, leaving behind now, the walls, the filigree gold, the rare cuts of marble from my home. I knew at once the vapor's source. I turned away, back to the wall, the trapezoid I had yawed into it. Vapor erupted inward at the gap, but not just from there. For as I rolled my eyes back, I saw the same... a great-steam of scintillation, smoking out from my skull! Dumb in awe, I faced toward my chimerical twin. He spoke.
Khra - Time: An old name, unspoken in the centuries since my mother reared me. A soft hiss, soothing as a viper's gaze. Little Bengel. The other me reached out, offering his hand, gliding toward me without moving, as though the distance between us was now collapsing. A confusion, most euphoric, filled my mind. With the shred of wit that remained, I decided that I should run for my life. At once, crazed and frantic, I fled. But I made no forward progress. Instead, the world compressed evermore around me, as though I were an anchor pulling the shore to reach. When I arrived at the door, or rather, the door arrived at me, I howled, hurling myself inside. Out. And then and there, I was. Lost and unlost. Howling on the floor in harmony with my wretched Kalymos. Lacerated in flesh and heart. Scattered as the Bell glass. Spilling blood and stomach on the cold, stone floor. But I sensed the other there, at the wall's breach behind me, reaching still. I screamed, but my voice was gone. Forever. I looked, but my eyes would never see again. I swept my fist across the floor, snatching broken shards. And in gripping tightly, I filled my hands with ink. Close it! I wrote.
Netra - Decay: Time, to us, is all but conquered. Our sacred Kuva moves us on to new skin. We numb to our daily, yearly, trifles... and remedy those memories that bring lasting misery. With all our misdeeds, our excess, our indignity... we are haunted by nothing. But not for me. For with each passing day, there grew within a tumorous idea. It was minute in those early days: The pale reaching digits severed on the floor... studied with reverence, with greed. And it swelled larger in the latter days: the regal domes, the Rail dedications, the unholy Zariman parade. I had put the stars within reach, but at what cost? I never spoke of him, that man, trapped in the wall. And while there have been countless souls who have followed me through, with their light-skippers, and field-wave skins, and vari-eyed instruments... not a single one ever saw him. Me. And so it is that I will not take the Kuva now. Or ever again. This is the last skin I'm In. Because of this idea: that I cannot be sure. That in all that smoked commotion, in all that panic and fear, in the bending light and blinding dark... was it I who escaped? Or the other?
Lohk - Void: From brooding golfs are we beheld by that which bears no name. Its heralds are the stars it fells. The sky and Earth aflame. Corporeal laws are unwrit. As suns and love retreat. To cosmic madness, laws submit. Though stalwart minds entreat. In luminous space, blackened stars. They gaze, accuse, deny. Roiling, moaning, this realm of ours. In madness, lost shall die. Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans. To cosmic forms from tangent planes. We end as we began.
since you transcribed this into text i have only just noticed, the last monologue "Lohk - Void" the entire speech is the flavor texts of the Requiem mods put in order "lohk, xata, jahu, vome, ris, fass, netra, khra" maybe there's more to this speech than just words
@@AndrewConlan it may have something to do with Xaku or Xaku may have something to do with it. It mentions gaze accuse deny and the lost that shall die. Xakus first ability is called Xata's whisper - Truth's whisper and it covers the warframe in infested bits as if revealing that all warframes are still infested inside and also gives you void damage. The entry is called Lohk and Xaku's second ability is Grasp of Lohk - Grasp of the Void. Not sure if The Vast Untime has something to do with it all tho
How much time did it take to make this
@@whatislife1337 I'm pretty sure we'll learn what "The Vast Untime" means in the Duviri Paradox
@@Ynoita fingers crossed! I love space-time fuckery and it seems like we will finally be getting more of that
Haven't seen anyone mention it here, so wanted to point out, for Khra - Time, as he talks about escaping and writing "Close it" in his own blood onto the floor, look to the bottom left, where it would normally say "Close" to close the entry, its says "Close it."
interesting
Thats a nice detail
amazing catch
I heard “man in the wall” and got chills
Same! I've been waiting for his return to the lore since War Within quest. Every time he shows up in my ship I'm so curious! Now with this link to him and upcoming Duvari just makes me so happy with DE
@@echostarling84 he did appear again briefly during rising tides
Where he say
He kinda sounds like Wayne June who voices the Ancestor in Darkest Dungeon. Especially with those verbose sentences and talk of eldritch things.
VA -Stefan Rudnicki
@@ledf2012 thanks. I thought that was him. was about to look it up.
I love how Albrecht's helmet looks exactly like the corruption drones that all the void enemies have on their heads
“Immortal as we are, we die with the sun. THATS WHERE I COME IN”. Bro who tf wrote this it gives me goosebumps.
So it's pretty much confirmed that the railjack fingers belonged to the man in the wall.
Thats a big finger, does that mean the man in the wall is a giant?
@@masterking905 Maybe. Maybe size is just relativistic to him
@@masterking905 Not quite. In the Netra entry Albrecht mentions the fingers increased in size over time. Given how the Man In The Wall seems to be formed from the impressions of the individual's consciousness, "he" can probably take any form. The fingers were just the part that got solidified into the material realm.
Their size increase might signify the Void's connection to the waking world getting stronger though.
@@summanus4437 What if the narrator (albrecht?) Cut off his finger to order the door closed. And it has something to do with that?
Olivier from my understanding of the dialogue he just slit his palm
Now that's how you read a script. You can feel every word. The man in the wall is by far my favorite piece of lore from the Warframe universe.
Gorgeous, beautiful poetry. This is what I love about warframe’s lore.
Agreed. :D
very much agreed!
The beginning to me is incredibly similar to Carl Sagan's "Wanders". Even the how he speaks is similar in pauses that Carl would make in the audiologs.
Words like "Nomads" "Wanderlust" "Unseen shores" are almost perfect pairs to the work. The more I listen to this the more certain I am that there was a direct influence.
And his first wife was Lynn Margulis... Coincidence? I think not
@@yukimarutoshiro1018 I just checked this.
Well done.
I was thinking the same, they both speak about space exploration as a need to preserve our species too.
In my years as a Warframe player this was the lore that got me to come back once again. there was something different about this content update, wherein I wasn't focused on getting a weapon, a warframe, a railjack. I found myself grinding through the Entrati faction for the lore and the family members naming each other alone. and I love it
Duviri paradox I can't wait
Well, you are in luck!
0:00 Xata - Truth
1:21 Jahu - Form
3:08 Vome - Order
4:28 Fass - Chaos
5:52 Ris - Light
7:21 Khra - Time
9:05 Netra - Decay
10:51 Lohk - Void
In order:
Lohk - Void:
From Brooding Gulfs are we beheld by that which bears no name.
Xata - Truth
Its Heralds are the stars it fells, the sky and earth aflame.
Jahu - Form
Corporeal Laws are unwrit, as suns and love retreat
Vome - Order
To Cosmic Madness, laws submit, though stalwart minds entreat.
Ris - Light
In Luminous space blackened stars; They gaze, accuse, deny.
Fass - Chaos
Roiling, moaning, this realm of ours, in madness lost shall die.
Netra - Decay
Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans.
Khra - Time
To cosmic forms from tangent planes, we end as we began.
But why is the order different in the story and the poem?
Also just noticed, "gaze, accuse, deny" are the variations of Xaku's "The Lost".
@@LordMardur Makes sense. Xaku is from the Entrati family's home.
Where does Oull fit into this?
Don't know, it Oull isn't in the videos
@@aravinds3846 Oull could be basically what The Divine Comedy is to The Bible in that it was unofficially written by some other person who was obsessed with the source material (Like, say, Dante for the former and either Mother or Grandmother for the latter) yet still is heavily associated with the real thing.
The voice actor for Albrect is so good it gives me chills.
I'm still 2 days away from the last entry. Glad that it's the "correct order" for the "Requiem Elegy" :)
I absolutely love the parallel in which in the beginning he goes on to detail his failures, how he hadn’t amounted to much regarding the void, to how his chance encounter ended up changing every little thing they knew about the universe itself.
It’s why I think the idea that he wasn’t the real Albrecht became stronger in the later years. Not only had they never seen “the man trapped in the wall” again, but they had done so many previously unimaginable advances in science and the void. He was so different from himself when he began his research he didn’t believe himself to be really him anymore.
I could be wrong, but I hope it makes sense :)
Now we know that Albrecht was the inadvertent creator of Wally according to an NPC in Duviri. When he stumbled into the void, his fear converged with void energy and that manifested a physical embodiment of his fear, The Man In The Wall.
His fear was because of the man
as far as i can tell he didnt create it but he was the 1st creature to become aware of the MitW and unknowingly made IT aware of our realm and eventually take an interest in it when the orokin started ot utlize the Void as their means of FTL.
It sounds like the Void itself in quantum in nature, it can morph into something physical by conscious observation.
Albretch Entrati went full in into the deeps of the void and the void itself manifested his fear into Wally.
On a similar note, I think the Tenno did the complete opposite, their courage manifested a second incarnation of the man in the wall that was willing to gave them power, but in nature Wally it’s still fear, two sides of the same coin
Edit: this also gets in line with how Duviri came to be, and how it morphs according to Dominus Thrax mood swings
We end as we began.....
now on new war quest, i'm pretty sure i see his photo inside the classroom on the zariman ship... don't now why but i think it was hin.
it is him ^^
I swear this is the voice of one of my favorite Voice actors and audiobook narrators. Stephan Rudnicki, but I can't find any credits for him at all
Nice ear, warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Albrecht_Entrati
Who before tennocon? :P
Who's here after the teaser?
After.
So bassically my man had a bad trip from the void and killed himself because he reached apotheosis and obtained enlightenment.
Didn’t kill himself, rather feared he was allowing TMitW to escape via himself
he didnt kill himself, he refused to mantian his pseudo immortality because what he experienced there made him fear if he truly got away or the MitW did and if it was the latter he didnt want ot give it immortality.
More like he wasn't a 100% that he actually escaped or if the man in the wall was really the one who escaped the void that and he was afraid of ever meeting him again to the point that he decided to let himself die of old age both so he wouldn't ever meet the man in the wall again but also so that if the man in the wall was really the one who escaped he'd be denied an immortal physical body.
Time shenanigans and 1999 make more sense now. “The oil and the smoke”, there is no way for an orokin to know of the era that humanity depended on fossil fuel without going that far back as I suspect warframe is a few thousand years from now.
“We end as we began”
Naked, ignorant and screaming in pain.
Maybe, or maybe mankind as a whole: Dust.
@@Sam_Graves true, but a quiet nebula of atomized matter seems more peaceful then the void nightmares would allow to happen. Something more like Magnus Archive eyemageddon is what i picture.
I never took the time to listen to these before, but lately I've really been getting into the lore of the game. It's so fucking dark, and I love it so much
"The Door of Lohk was before us, I had my profs, and my father's...I could hear him tapping at the untime door, but he wasn't there...my husband congratulated me...sarcastic halfwit...but it doesn't matter, it was all a dream"
Dude, what the fuck has mother being doing ? Or even better, what HAPPENED to Albrech ? In the Cosmic Clock he expecifies that he does not want to take the Kuva anymore, but by what Mother says, by what Father implies, Albrech didn't "die", he disappeared...
Perhaps, she thinks Albrecht remained in the Void and returned from it both. In that case, it is possible for him to have died in reality and lived in unreality.
I would guess that Mother has tried to replicate Albrech's experiment, but she failed (or the door only opened "partially") since the seriglass can't be restored (when Mother wakes confused Loid awnsers her saying "that wasn't a dream, Mother, it really happened", although i didn't pay too much attention at first, so i might be a bit off)
You probably got to r5 by now, but Mother is holding a random seriglass shard and forgot her Dad is dead. Like they all forgot things like their own names.
@@DracoHouston yeah but that exactly line of dialogue, about she being in front of the door, Loid confirms to be true
@@_12k70 wouldn't be the first time "Albrech" was (rap tap) taping at the door. That probably wasn't him.
Gotta put this video in my favorites...I have a feeling those audio logs will be important in the years after The New War
They’re important now, I think tbh
@@justicegutierrez6847 If anything these are our biggest hints are Duuviri Paradox which canonically should come next in the story. It's crazy that they hinted at 2 operators before the New War even released.
Its beginning to make some sense now. I do believe that our operators are like Alberect's void twin and the adult tenno we see in the Duviri Paradox cinematic are the true tenno.
waoh man what makes you think that
That'd be an interesting reveal
This is how you handle storytelling! It'll be like experiencing second dream all over again!
@@echostarling84 I agree. I really enjoyed this little lore snippet. Makes my mind wonder. :D
It would explain why we never try to make allies..
First off, this soundtrack is SICK!!!! What is it called?
And secondly, SO much lore added about the Void! Can't wait to see what Duviri adds to it.
Seems it might be a reprise of the first half of Ghosts of Void by Keith Power, who did Warframe's soundrack
th-cam.com/video/xgk1VR12C3Y/w-d-xo.html This is the soundtrack you hear here, all the Deimos ones are really nice imo
You say that as if duviri will ever come, knowing DE
These are the new soundtracks of heart of deimos
@@baseddrugdealer5086aged like milk my friend
Can I just say how beautiful this voice is and wow the voice actor did a bang up job
So the man in the wall - is literally IN THE WALL between the void and spacetime? And his rap tap tap is him trying to get out?
That can't be right. That's Limbo's thing. Between the void and material plane is the rift.
@@ixiahj Iirc, it is never stated that the Rift is between the Void and our universe.
@@necrogenisis Wasn't it in the Limbo Profile video? I don't remember where its mentioned but whenever people mistake the rift from the void, the general reply is the rift is between the void and material plane.
Its also why he was named Limbo. The inbetweener of planes.
@@ixiahj Neither the original, nor revisited profile say that. As far I understand it, and given how Limbo's abilities operate, the Rift is a plane/dimension overlaying our own. That's why being in the Rift allows limited interaction with the physical world.
the void portal is projected on to the wall in the lab when the portal is activated it looks like it's "opening" the wall to reveal the void.
Kalymos Sequence Has begun!
FINALLY we know whose finger the reliquary drive is from
Whos is it?
Yeah, also, how many fingers did the entity have? Assuming (and there's no reason not to) ever Railjack has a Reliquery drive. Or, what, did Orkoin have only 10 Railjacks?
@@karcistvahlae1207 Perhaps they tasked the duviri to clone the entities like they swap bodies endlesly
@@nikolamilosevic7024 Ah, yes. Duviri. Or, you know, perhaps they didn''t, mainly cause who the shit are Duviri?
@@nikolamilosevic7024 or maybe it had a regenertive property similar to the sentients
Man in the Wall with Entrati: Hey Old Man
Man In The Wall with us: Hey kiddo.
That is some Lovecraftian horror level stuff there sir
Something tells me that possibly our tenno who we are in the game are these twin reflections from the void and the adult tenno in the duviri paradox are our real selves? Just speculation but Albrechts info kinda sounds like its possible. We somehow got replaced by them and our real selves are in the void, unable to use void powers?
I'm almost inclined to think that the Zariman Ten-0 really hadn't any other children besides Rell as the manifest accuses. The Tenno could be the extrapolation of the tripulation in the age Rell had.
I consider it more like this, when the Zariman entered the void it split into 2 identical copies of itself people within it exactly the same, only that one Zariman was able to exit the Void.
@@Optimusj1975 its confirmed that kids were in the ship, in an official warframe comic you see teens same age as rell gaining void powers
@@Optimusj1975 rell's comics show that other children were onboard, they even bullied him
@Bump thrust I'm still confused about what the man in the wall is, if it is the Void itself or not, but I strongly believe that the man in the wall is just a manifestation of the Shadow archetype of the psyche, our choices in the quests reflects on how much that inner demon is controlled by ourselves. The best choice is always the neutral (controlled). We are our man in the wall.
This man chose death over MAYBE seeing the man in the wall again now that just sheds a hole new light on the man in the wall as some demon creature that even a man with such smart and straight chose to die then see him again
This is far too complex for the average warframe "spam 4" player. They really outdid themselves on this one!
Except the average spam 4 player will be the ones crying that there isnt any content since they blitz through it all at the speed of 4-button macro
@@louiesatterwhite3885 boy if THAT isn't the truth! So sick of the crybabies lol
@@TheDoomclaw True, no one is appreciating the story..... Even the "Content Creator" are sulking, cuz the story is given more thought than to their Insatiable hunger of virtual Genocide...
BRO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BRO IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY BRO PLEASE BRO JUST PICK A NUKEFRAME BRO I SWEAR BRO IT'S FUN BRO IT'S NOT CHEESE BRO PLEASE BRO GOD YOU'RE SO STUBBORN AND SHORT-SIGHTED BRO WHY DON'T YOU PICK SARYN, MESA OR ANYTHING "GOOD" BRO????!!!!!?!?!??!?!!??!/1/1/1
@@SankoshSaha_01 tbf the story is full of retcons too. And it is very disjoint. And some plot lines have no set end and are just abandoned
The void is the only alien in the whole universe of warframe
@DX Stxnly Alien as in originated from different worlds if humans lived on another world for millenia and adapted to the enviroment so that they physically different they would be truly alien since we share an origin world.
@DX Stxnly You do know that the sentients were made by Ballis and sent to tou right?
an Orokin estate owner takes a stroll through the void..
I never noticed during the quest, but going back to the Deimos Heart Captura Scene, the portal at 3:11 is immediately familiar. 🤔
I have attempted to break down the poem/prophecy at the end of these logs, line by line, in order to grasp its meaning. This is what I have come up with...
From brooding gulfs are we beheld, by that which bears no name...
--This line speaks of the man in the wall, the being that bears no name, and describes how he broods/sulks as he watches the Tenno (and the inhabitants of the real world) from the gulf/coastline/edge of the world between worlds.
Its heralds are the stars it fells, the sky and earth aflame...
--This line tells the reader that the destruction of the known universe, in any capacity, serves as a herald for the man in the wall (I.E. - falling stars and/or dying planets); the being who will ultimately destroy all of reality (foreshadowing)
Corporeal laws are unwrit as sons, and love, retreat; to cosmic madness, laws submit, though stalwart minds entreat...
--This line speaks of the power of the man in the wall, and how the laws of the universe, as well as the things within said universe, submit to that power; all except for the members of mankind, who, in their perceived intelligence, try to ingratiate themselves to the void through scientific formulas, in order to learn its secrets.
In luminous space, blackened stars, they gaze, accuse, deny...
--This line describes the physical appearance of the world between worlds (white space with black stars), the dwelling place of the man in the wall, and through the personification of this space, informs the reader what the man in the wall does in the world between worlds. He gazes upon the Tenno, and the inhabitants of the real world. He watches them, accuses them of sin, and denies them any form of mercy.
Roiling, moaning, this realm of ours, in madness, lost, shall die...
--This line speaks of the deterioration of reality at the hands of the man in the wall, here identified as "madness." In addition, this line talks about how the Tenno's present reality is lost, both literally (as it is doomed to die) and figuratively (as the inhabitants of reality have no idea that they're headed to a sure destruction), and how it is ultimately doomed to be destroyed by the man in the wall (in madness, lost, shall die).
Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans...
--This line talks about the Orokin, and how they, in their dying and decaying bodies (their carrion), practically parade their sick and twisted means of achieving immortality across the cosmos (trilling their profane accord, as they brag about the continuity); all so that they can accomplish the evil schemes they have cooked up in their minds, their eldritch plans, if you will (like sending out the Sentients to find new worlds to exploit and destroy).
To cosmic forms, from tangent planes, we end, as we, began.
--This line talks about how all physical/ tangible things in the Tenno's present reality, including the Tenno themselves (and all other forms of life), are destined to transition into more cosmic/ethereal forms. What's more, this line tells the reader that all of the physical/tangible things in the Tenno's present reality, first started out as cosmic/ethereal constructs (to cosmic forms, from tangent planes, we end, as we, began).
The mad lad wrote his own requiem.
This makes me consider a possibility that The Indifference is not sentient or intelligent in any meaningful sense, and is instead a manifestation of jumbled thoughts and memories pulled out of the individual upon direct contact with the Void.
Don't get me wrong - that would not make it any less dangerous or terrifying. Imagine everything you can think of attempting to interact with you all at once with no clear goal or order while simultaneously putting your mind in a chaotic state, all the while incorporating this inner chaos into reality all around you. A completely tangible psychedelic trip. Extremely volatile.
I'm trying to understand everything before 1999
There is something about that last segment, i think it hints at direction the story will go.
The "that which bares no name" is the man in the wall.
"it's heralds" are the Tenno.
"the sky and earth aflame" War against the sentients ravaging the system, or generally the factions waging war against each other?
"Corporeal laws are unwrit" clearly revering to the void/the Tennos abilities
From here on out, alot of future predictions:
"as suns an love retreat" Love as in Lotus, the "loving mother" of the Tenno, and reflection of Margulis, the lover of Ballas has effectively retreated. "suns" could either refer to the inhabitants of the Tau, the Sentients or refer to the Star of Sol being destroyed (perhaps a conclusion to the new war, that it just disappears into the Void or is engulved by the sentients?)
"To cosmic madness, laws submit" the Void being unleashed at or sucking in the entire Origin system?
"In luminous space, blackend stars" Again, another line generally refering to the void
"they gaze, accuse, deny." Whose "they"? The Tenno? The Orokin definitly acted as Judge, Jury and Executioner back in the day. Maybe the Duviri? As with that one concept art of this guy sitting in a throne that kinda looks like it was grown by sentient technology...
"Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans." Idk, this could be teasing some eldritch void related faction for the future, or possibly the Infested get buffed once the Void sucks in the Origin System.
"To cosmic forms from tangent planes" Refering to the Tennos void shadow form? Or is the Man in the Wall trying to physically manifest itself, whatever it may be, in the non-void realm...
"we end as we began" Just a wild quess, but given the recent time related shenanigans with void, perhaps the story is set to end in a timeloop? Or that could refer to the Duviri Paradox, our Tenno, ending up where they began, and eventually growing older.
Me when I first got the game:
"WOO! FREE SPACE NINJA GAME"
Me, now, five years later:
"Oh, I'm an eldritch abomination approximation of a possibly living person, neat."
At around 4:30 ...the auto-generated subtitles display the word "void" strongly delayed...as if even they, unthinking code, nothing but unfeeling, unbeing automations...knew to fear the very concept.
I know of course that that is just how I perceive it, but...it nonetheless feels strangely poetic.
Hah. This whole ordeal just proves that Nef has NEVER really been to the Void or back. He just sells all that Void mumbo-jumbo to make money.
No one returns the same from the other side, as seeing the light changes your whole perception of time, space, and existence.
you can go into the void and be just fine its only when you go in unprotected that it starts tearing your mind and body apart baro goes all the time
DE nailed it in this whole eldritch horror thing about the man in the wall. Imagine a man, scientist, preferer not to continue imortal, because he does not know if was him or the thing that escape the void through the trapezoid. Or a autistic boy with void powers (Rell) that was cast out and denied of the cryosleep, (maybe because the orokins deeming rell unfit for the combat againts the sentients) choose willingly to sacrifice his body to put his spirit in his warframe to prevent the man in the wall to cross to our plane. And neither the two of them knows how to describe entirely the man in the wall. Bro this is pure HP lovecraft shit.
Rell didn't heed the call of the Lotus to return to the Dream because he was the only one at the time to see the threat and the scope of it, bound to Harrow as he was he founded the Red Veil and kept The Man back for as long as he could. just wanted to clarify that.
Holy shit the writing is sublime, esp the poem at the end. Riviting. Chilling.
The voice acting, perfect.
Cant. Stop. Watching.
Fun fact: only Euleria, Albrecht’s daughter, believe he was still alive somewhere in the Void. She still held a shard of his seriglass bell, believing she would found a way to find him once again.
Yet It is unknown whether she have access to his secret research of the Void
The same seriglass shard she mutilated Vilcor, the same seriglass shard Dagath - the grandmother - kept secret from the family
Since reuniting the family as Ayatan things have mellowed down a little... but I confess, keeping the truth from Gomaitru now makes me uneasy, knowing what she did last time with Vilcor when it concerns Albrecht.
Well the Void sounds as unpleasant as I imagined. No wonder everyone went insane in there, imagine what they went through.
Stopping to think on it. What if there indeed were no kids on the Zariman? That the grownup we saw in the Duviri Paradox teaser was neither some quantum duplicate or a future self, but instead our original selves, the original Zariman crew members, that never escaped the void, while the tenno we think of are in fact the strange reflections that left the void with us still technically trapped within?
Exactly. After Ember Prime codex entry and the entire operator arc, it will be the biggest plot twist of all to time in warframe lore. DE is definitely doing it.
This voice actor and musical support is actually perfect
I need a version of these with visualizations. How poingant would "Our radiation wars, our oil, our smoke" be to the back drop of a nuclear bomb, an oil mining field and a factory bellowing smoke...
The man in the wall in the lote is some kinda eldrich being that makes your entire existence go funky mode meanwhile his current presence in game is just “hEy KiDdO” every once in a while
Did you finish "The Sacrifice"? He does a bit more from this moment on...
caav56 yeah but not much from what I remember
@@plate_fox He manages to drag our ass to Ballas to get Paracesis, as well as create shadowy copies of Lotus, which are hostile to us.