It really is! I still think the Pace 2 and now the Pace 3 are great value watches but the 265 provides a lot more functionality and that screen is brilliant! 👌🏻 Thanks Konstantin!
I have the 265 and 965, I am probably going to return the 965 simply because I am a runner (marathons and half marathons), not an ultra runner. Therefore I feel that 965 is a bit of overkill for me and I have a small wrist. Great video Matt
After purchasing both watch models, I conducted a thorough comparative analysis by wearing them at the same time with identical configurations. My findings indicate that while the model 265 outperforms in battery longevity, maintaining its charge commendably over extended periods, the model 965 excels in display quality. The screen of the 965 is notably more legible in outdoor conditions, thanks to its superior screen and glass composition, enhancing visibility even under bright sunlight.
Wait, you're getting longer battery life from the 265? I'm also doing the duel watches on each wrist but that hasn't been my experience when it comes to battery life. Either way, thanks for watching and posting this comment. 👌🏻
Wow, thank you Jason! I don't think there's a ton of us fitness watch enthusiasts out there. We need to stick together. Thanks for taking the time to watch this one. 👌
Smart to wait and see what kind of deals we’ll see on Black Friday. I’m planning to live stream something that day also. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Your review is detailed and awesome, probably the video which I was looking for my purchase decision. Thank you sooo much !👍👍👍👏👏👏special mention on the music, video edit is fantastic. very very impressive. Helps me in my upgrade of my 4 years old Garmin 245
Good video, both good watches. I was going to buy one of these but just feel garmin will be releasing a new version soon so was holding off incase I like that better if not the price will hopefully drop. Cheers for the review.
Good call! If you can wait, it's typically a good idea. You can see what's next and if it's not amazing, you'll be able to get this at a better price. Or there's always Holiday deals 🤷🏻♂️. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Oh no!!! I was having some trouble with that overlay animation when making this and I must have mixed it up while fixing it. Super frustrating because I can't fix it in post. Thanks for the pointing that out Marco. I'll try to be more careful in the next one.
Great and in depth video! The "RUN" text on one of the buttons makes sense for a watch called FORERUNNER, everyone can use the watch, but originally it was made for runners. Why they didnt go with "RUN" on some watches and not all is what bugs me.
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of that text oh there. This watch would probably be my top choice as a swim watch. The lap swim activity profile is really good. It's just not a design choice I would have made personally but it is called the ForeRunner. 🤷♂️
That'll be a great one. They're two very different price points but the feature set is surprisingly similar. And I've been meaning to reach out and check on you. Hope all is well! 👍
@@mlegrand been on hiatus because of "writers block" with a new set up or idea backdrop, but thankfully I feel like I may have that solved finally! And generally it has been hard to get back in the saddle with getting content produced
Thanks for the video and helping me decide. I’m upgrading from a 735xt and the screen cracked though the watch still works. Either watch would be leaps and bounds over what I have now but I’m gonna go with the 965 for the bigger screen, mapping, and longer battery life.
Nice choice Paul! I think you’ll really enjoy this one. They do make screen protectors for this 965 but they don’t fit perfectly because of this slight dome here. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thanks Matt, nice comparison. I was between the two and finally decided on the 965 for the better battery life, bigger screen and titanium bezel (which in the long run is important as the plastic bezel is very prone to scratches/accidental hits). Their price is a little close, I think the 265 should have been 50 dollars/euros cheaper, a 200 dollar/euro difference would be more optimal.
I agree. At the end of this video, I waver on the price a bit. At $150, I think I'd spring for the 965. But that's just me. Everyone is different and $450 might already be a stretch for some people. 🤷🏻♂️ Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thanks for the update. My 935 is dying after 8 faithful years. But having a look back. I’m really wondering whether it’s worth the extra money. I think your video clears shows to me who is a runner and hiker. For 90% of my tracking activity that the 265 is more than enough. 965 might be good if I was a triathlete or ultramarathoner. Thnaks. For the clear differences.
Great informative video. I am trying to decide between these two because after 5 years my 235 finally died. Love the addition of the Lego Mini-figs! lol
Hi Peter, The 265 would be a very nice upgrade. I’d probably only bump up to the 966 if you need maps or golf ⛳️? There could also be Black Friday deals if you’re willing to hold out a while. 🤷🏻♂️
Garmin has told me nothing so I guess I'm free to speculate. I'm guessing it'll be similar to the 265 but without training readiness. If so, I'd be right here close to the 255 or Coros Pace 3. It'd also be an easy recommendation for all of the runners I coach. Maybe we'll know something tomorrow or sometime in the next few weeks. 🤷♂️
Yes, it won't have Training Readiness score, only Recovery time tracking with morning report and will only feature GNSS. But AMOLED screen and 19h GPS will make it the best entry-level watch for 250£ @@mlegrand
After 5 years with the 235 I opted to treat myself to the 965 before CIM last year. I love the screen but it’s way too much watch. Serious overkill for just a runner. Hopefully if lasts 5 years and I can justify the money.
Good feedback for people to hear. It's a great watch. I used the 965 on my morning run today. I do wish I had put some sort of screen protector on mine as it now has two tiny scratches on the edge of the screen. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it James! 👍
Planning to walk across thailand, about 700km over 20-25 days... would you say the 265 is more than enough? if so ill buy using your link. The key for me is to be able to use the garmin connect, so I can connect to my insta360 x4 so it can do that cool speedo overlay thing. Ill have my phone with me, so i wont need those map things, just a decent way to track km, calories etc? Great review bud, thank you. I guess my question is, does it need the gps to track km, or would it still do it, but maybe not as accurate etc?
No pressure on using any specific link. I would say that the main thing would be the fact that the 265 doesn't have true mapping but you mentioned that. I'm guessing you'll want the GPS from the watch to overlay that data on top of the insta360 camera. There's probably a lot of ways to do this and you could even do it with your cell phone's gps if you wanted. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hi! Have been watching some of your videos but still don't know which one would be best. I need a watch that tracks sleep, energy level/training readiness (I'm a flight attendant so insights in this would help me) and for sports I mostly run, hike, swim and do road cycling (for which I need a gps too). 🤔 Have been doubting between 265, 955, 965 or Venu3 🤔 I have a Fitbit Versa 2 now but I have to put my phone's strava app on for runs and bike rides and for swimming I need to count myself as Versa doesn't do it on the watch. 😅🙈
The Venu 3 is missing some swim features that help with kick sets and drill sets. If you don't do those when you swim than it's not a huge deal. The 265 would be excellent for all of the activities that you tend to do. The 955 and 965 would have mapping and golf. I'm not sure if either of those would be of interest?
what should i go for?? i am out for a watch that helps me with insight on my sleep. i usealy want a wach that is accurate, i am leaning on going to 265 cuz its small and nice. but i dont hate 965. i do bodybuilding and want more out of my health. plis help what should i chose.
I’ve had my trusty 245 for a few years and it covered all my regular activities quite well (road, trail, gym, HIIT) I’m looking to upgrade and the choice between 265 and 965 is much tougher than I thought 😅 I’m looking to get more into Ultras. Is the price difference truly worth it long term? If so, it’s 965
It's hard to say on the price difference. I guess that depends on how price sensitive you are. Don't sell off any kids to get this bumped up new watch. But the 965 has mapping and golf. If that's not super interesting to you, the 265 is a fantastic option. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I have the apex 2, just in the 30 day return window. I am not satisfied with it the screen is small and I love love the materials used which is half of the decision on purchasing the watch. I am thinking of returning it and getting apex 2 pro, 255, 955. Reason is I’m not getting 965 and 265 is don’t see much of a difference plus I like the MIP screens more. Would you recommend me getting the apex 2 pro or 955. Im afraid that i might be not aware of something and that the 955 could be too old or something like that. The 955 is made entirely of plastic so am I willing to sacrifice looks and durability over satisfaction 🤷🏻♂️
The materials are pretty similar for the Apex 2 and Apex 2 Pro so the bigger screen might be all you need. I'd personally probably go with the 955 but the materials are actually nicer in some ways on the Apex series. The AMOLED screens are the major changes coming to the newer devices. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@ thank you for replying back! I agree the apex series has nice materials but the watch is due for an upgrade, I love coros but I feel it’s super heavy training watch, but on the other than I feel like garmin is more well rounded in a way. The 255 is on sale where I live and putting the 955 on double the price of the 255. Would recommend waiting for a discount and getting the 955 or get the 255 right away. Thank and I appreciate you creating those amazing videos and putting in the effort, truly outstanding!
Great vid. And . You saved me.. just doing the dishes while watching this when you started talking about battery life.. "omg. I need to charge my watch!!".. phew.. I can quickly charge and head out for my run still
Hello there. One question. If I have my Garmin Edge 530 and I want to upload the data from the sensors of my bike to my smartwatch can I do it with Garmin Foreunner 965 or 265? Garmin Edge 530 works with Garmin Connect app in my phone, so I guess that a Garmin smartwatch has to have this functionality as well? I mean I want to upload this data to Strava and also my smartwatch as well. Thank you so much
Typically you’ll connect your bike sensor data to either your edge unit or watch but not both. If your bike sensor is connecting over ANT+ you can pair it to multiple devices. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great comparison video! I’m leaning towards the 965 since I golf. They’re on sale right now, $100 off, do you think there will better deals on Black Friday?
I have no idea if you'll see better Black Friday deals. I think I'd make the purchase on Black Friday just in case. I'm also planning to do a live stream on that day, looking at deals. Should be fun. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great review! Are you using these watches in freshwater or the ocean? I am wondering how they would hold up with ocean use and am concerned about salt water corrosion - mostly on stuff like the charging port.
When I open water swim it's typically in fresh water conditions here. Salt water might give the metal parts or charging ports some difficulty but Garmin does test for that. Rinsing it off after each swim would be a good idea.
I think the 265 is fantastic but because you are a hiker you might want the maps that are on the 965. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I’m Really struggling to decide I wanted to get the 955 but it’s nowhere available in my country So the choice is between 265 vs 965 but I’m unsure if the 150$ more is worth it for me
@@mlegrand I do running and swimming and plan to do cycling in the future. I don’t think I will do crazy distances in the near future but it’s definitely on my to do list for one day. I do trekking sometimes so maps would be interesting but I always got my phone with me on treks so I don’t necessarily need the maps on the watch. And I don’t Golf or do indoor climbing.
@@oliverbui2662 - The 265 is a fantastic watch. That's what I recommended for my older brother who does up to 1/2 ironman distances and he's enjoying that watch so far.
My wrists are tiny and I’ve gotten used to the 965. It’s a beautiful watch but there’s nothing wrong with the 265 if you prefer that watch instead. They’re both pretty similar in size.
Great video Matt Battery life I will pay extra for the stamina and training readiness are key for my next watch. Once my Felix 3 dies or I am doing a long distance tri
Hey Matt, cheers from Colombia, great content as always. I really can't understand Garmin's watch lineup. As an ironman Myself, I normally change my watch every time a new one comes (always use the Forerunner), but when I got the 965, it really was a disappointment, the battery is a bummer, and I never liked the wrist move to get the screen on, so having it on all the time, kills it every 6 to 7 days. It was so bad, that I trained last year with an Apple Watch Ultra, and never went back to my FR965. The 955 is a way better watch IMO.
I think the 955 is a phenomenal option. It's also at a better price point. I haven't done an Ironman in a few years but I don't know if I'd choose the Apple Watch Ultra for it if I needed a watch. Other than that, it's great. It's a very smart smart watch. 👌🏻
@@mlegrand Yep, I agree. The 955 its great! And I started using the Ultra last year, because I focussed my training on running through the whole year; having my Audible app, credit cards, and music on the same watch, is amazing. For an Ironman, I'll choose my Forerunner in a heartbeat.
As someone who has a forerunner 745 and is planning to do some ultras (100m at most and Ironmans) would you suggest one of the new watches or the forerunner 965?
I might take a look at the new Enduro 3. It's a great watch at a good price. I'm still finishing up my review but it should be out this week. Are you ok with bigger watches? Any of the 51mm devices have bigger batteries.
good review. i think $150 for maps, titanium bezel, and longer battery is a bit steep. not sure why anyone would go anywhere without their phone. if you're going somewhere you could get lost and need directions back or need to find a finish line or food, you shouldn't be going on that journey with just a gps watch 😂
Yeah, that's a pretty big price difference, I agree. 🤔 Thank you for watching this one Brian! And thanks for taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Ok so I have a question… as a forensic scientist I need a watch that will accurately pin point my location and confirm that I was in that location at that specific time.. will this watch do that for me ?
Ok, this is an awesome question. Garmin devices allow you to save your location at any time. It's an option within their quick menu system which could be a nice quick way to do this. It could have issues locating satellites or it could be slow to load satellites if you're inside. By default the "waypoint" has lat/long and elevation. It also names the waypoint by date and time. That name is editable so I'm not sure if that would cover what you're looking to do. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
They both have optical heart rate sensors built into the back of the watches. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
😂 - Why Garmin why!!! This is when you know you review too many Garmin watches and you get annoyed that they moved the charging port on one and only one Garmin model series. 🤦♂️
The last three here are pretty durable. I also have a video about the Suunto Race coming up. Anything with a sapphire lens seems to hold up well. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Neither of these have the sapphire lens tho correct? I’d assume the 965 might be a bit more durable with the titanium bezel? My only other concern is how the screen of these is pretty in line with the bezel while some other models seem to be “sunk in” a bit to protect the lens. Thanks again for your videos. They’re very good!
@@jeffhallman676 - right. Both of these have the same Gorilla Glass but I typically recommend a lens protector just in case. The Fenix is the one that has a sapphire lens.
I just found your videos and it’s being great bc my boyfriend is falling in love with running and I want to support him as I’m a monster that dislike running 💀 He is planning on doing a Triathlon in a couple years and I want to give him something that will stay with him for a long time. There’s a sale going on and I don’t know what go get him fr 265 or fr 955. What do you recommend?
That's a hard call. Those are both awesome options. He'd be perfectly fine with either. The trade off is maps and longer battery life on the 955 vs the very nice bright beautiful screen on the 265. If he works outdoors or something like that, I'd go for the 955 because the screen does well in that scenario, otherwise I think I'd go for the 265. You're a very kind monster to be buying a nice watch for your boyfriend 😂 but you should try walk/jogging. 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking. I bet you would be very surprised to see how well you would do in your small local 5k (3 mile) fun run. Best of luck to you both!
@@mlegrand thank you so much!! I went for the 955, I’ll let you know if he likes it. I’ll try jogging and I’ll be back at the end of the year 😂 thank you for your help
I can add those in post. TH-cam will actually do it automatically after a few days. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@mlegrand thank you. For runners, do you think it's worth considering any other watches? You also didn't mention display differences in terms of glass, so is the glare a non-issue? Leaning towards 265 for price but I'd love the 965.
@@MonticArckeys - I'd be confident with the 265. It's a great option. I do have a full video about that specific watch if you want to check it out. th-cam.com/video/yS7y6j1tWUc/w-d-xo.html Another watch to consider would be the more affordable new Forerunner 165. It actually came out 2 days after this video and I've yet to review it. It should be a great option for runners but it is missing a few things. Triathlon, Training Readiness Score, etc. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Iv'e had a 645 for like 5-6 years now and i want to change... Im between these 2... But I still don't know what to choose. Im a marathoner... but i do like the occasional hike on marked roads. That large screen and maps are telling me yes... but the $200(canadian) extra have me thinking. Help.. what do i do? lol!
Ok, I've got you. I suggest waiting until black friday and seeing if that $200 gap is still too much to cover. If so, the 265 is an excellent option and still has breadcrumb style navigation. It won't be as good for hiking but there's always the maps on your phone. 🤷♂️ Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@mlegrand it is already balckfriday sales in canada so the difference isn't going down. thanks for the tips.... now I'm leaning 265.... also having read the other comments from people who had both and returned the 965. Thanks for the help!!!
I use a screen protector on this watch but the issue is that bezel is slightly curved. So you basically have to have a screen protector that is too small to fit just the face of the watch and not the edge. It's not great 😬
Thanks for the video Matt! Just wondering which would you choose between 955 solar and 265. I At the moment they are selling at the same price in my city. I don’t do extreme sports, I only run and swim regularly. Cheers! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I’d go for the 265 at this point. Solar wasn’t super helpful on this watch in my opinion. The 955 would have maps and golf if that is any interest to you?
the monster says : it's not about hating running....it's about runners :D :D :D. joke aside. Thanks a lot for your video mate. it's helping a lot that focus on the differences and what's right for who. thanks.
Great video man! As casual runner and do gym workout side by side 6x a week, 265 is more than enough. 965 have huge price difference unless there's sale ongoing then get it. But also as someone just few months bought 955 for $430 and recent just switch to Fenix 7s PRO SS because of steal price $530, just buy what makes you happy (think later your sad wallet haha) 😁
Good point Jervin! I always mention suggested retail prices in these videos but you can some times find amazing deals on the high end options. 🙌 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@jaemylez Its not brand new but only bought last December with 2yrs warranty. I get lucky that some rich dude selling it for bargain price, he has collection of watches. Try to look at your local markets, there are people especially rich one that impulsely buy things and sell it when they get enough of it 😁.
@@jaemylez But from my Exp, there's not much change from 955 (which I own prior) going to 7 Pro series. You are definitely just paying for Premium build and material. But metrics its all the same and even the HR sensor I dont see much difference. Buuut what I definitely notice is how Heavy it is and that for 7s Pro (42mm) only, probably regular 7 Pro would weight more. I suggest keep your 955 if there's no issue and wait for discounted price or good deal for 7 Pro to come out.
Yes. And I think it's a really good option for people who don't need triathlon and training readiness. Hopefully I'll review it in the next few months. 🤷♂️
I love my 965 , I choose it after quite a few of your videos! At first try in the store I thought it was too large but after going shopping a few times (my family was going crazy with my tergiversations 🤣) I went for it and I have zero regrets! It keeps me so motivated loving the badges and the levels and the Garmin coach etc! Thanks for your informative videos!
She's worn both of these a lot and she likes them both. Her eyes aren't great so she might go for the bigger 965 but she's currently using the 265 the most. Tricky call for her but I love having a woman's opinion on these watches. I need to get her on camera and giving her opinion a bit more in the future. I think that'd improve this channel a lot. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Lol. I love hiking and biking and tech. I was never a runner. I preferred sprinting and team sports. Im 6 foot 3 and even in college was 220 pounds. Just not a long distance runner.
265 it’s amazing! I bought it and compared to my previous Coros Pace 2 watch, it's just a different level!
It really is! I still think the Pace 2 and now the Pace 3 are great value watches but the 265 provides a lot more functionality and that screen is brilliant! 👌🏻 Thanks Konstantin!
I have the 265 and 965, I am probably going to return the 965 simply because I am a runner (marathons and half marathons), not an ultra runner. Therefore I feel that 965 is a bit of overkill for me and I have a small wrist. Great video Matt
Thanks Brian! Cool that you have had both. It's good to hear your perspective. 👌
i got the 265, was struggling getting a 965, your experience really help me determine
After purchasing both watch models, I conducted a thorough comparative analysis by wearing them at the same time with identical configurations. My findings indicate that while the model 265 outperforms in battery longevity, maintaining its charge commendably over extended periods, the model 965 excels in display quality. The screen of the 965 is notably more legible in outdoor conditions, thanks to its superior screen and glass composition, enhancing visibility even under bright sunlight.
Wait, you're getting longer battery life from the 265? I'm also doing the duel watches on each wrist but that hasn't been my experience when it comes to battery life. Either way, thanks for watching and posting this comment. 👌🏻
Are both using amoled screens?
@@Harrythehun - yes
Your intros, thumbnails, and content keep improving ~ well done! I have the Forerunner 955 Solar and now I want another :)
You'd like the 965. It's a really nice watch! Thanks for the kind words Peter!!!
@@PeterHerget birthday gift!!!
Your videos are awesome! Beautifully shot B roll, and great commentary and reviews. Thanks for what you do!
Wow, thank you Drew. Super nice of you to take the time to say that. 🙏
Incredible video! So well made. Great job and thank you!
You are very welcome Tyler. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Seriously look forward to your reviews and comparisons as an evergreen fitness watch enthusiast. Well done.
Wow, thank you Jason! I don't think there's a ton of us fitness watch enthusiasts out there. We need to stick together. Thanks for taking the time to watch this one. 👌
Thank you dude! I’ve been back and forth for a week now but after watching this video I’m going to pull the trigger on the 265 on Black Friday 👍
Smart to wait and see what kind of deals we’ll see on Black Friday. I’m planning to live stream something that day also. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I'm also here to get ideas for black Friday!
Your review is detailed and awesome, probably the video which I was looking for my purchase decision. Thank you sooo much !👍👍👍👏👏👏special mention on the music, video edit is fantastic. very very impressive. Helps me in my upgrade of my 4 years old Garmin 245
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thank you, great production! I’m sure your channel will continue growing
Slowly growing. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
As my eyesight is not getting any better (I'm into my 60s), I'm considering the FR965 for the display size
You’ll also appreciate how much sharper these AMOLED displays. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Good video, both good watches.
I was going to buy one of these but just feel garmin will be releasing a new version soon so was holding off incase I like that better if not the price will hopefully drop.
Cheers for the review.
Good call! If you can wait, it's typically a good idea. You can see what's next and if it's not amazing, you'll be able to get this at a better price. Or there's always Holiday deals 🤷🏻♂️. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Awesome video again!
By the way:
wrong display sizes shown in the video at 1:48. he tells the right but the text is wrong in the picture
Oh no!!! I was having some trouble with that overlay animation when making this and I must have mixed it up while fixing it. Super frustrating because I can't fix it in post. Thanks for the pointing that out Marco. I'll try to be more careful in the next one.
What a great and in depth comparison, but did you ever compared 965 vs fenix 7. If no, I can't wait about it
I don’t currently have a Fenix 7. Otherwise I’d love to compare those two watches. But my watch habit is going to break my wallet. 😬
Great and in depth video! The "RUN" text on one of the buttons makes sense for a watch called FORERUNNER, everyone can use the watch, but originally it was made for runners. Why they didnt go with "RUN" on some watches and not all is what bugs me.
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of that text oh there. This watch would probably be my top choice as a swim watch. The lap swim activity profile is really good. It's just not a design choice I would have made personally but it is called the ForeRunner. 🤷♂️
Love this! Funny enough I'm gonna do a review of the 265 versus the Epix watch soon!
That'll be a great one. They're two very different price points but the feature set is surprisingly similar. And I've been meaning to reach out and check on you. Hope all is well! 👍
@@mlegrand been on hiatus because of "writers block" with a new set up or idea backdrop, but thankfully I feel like I may have that solved finally! And generally it has been hard to get back in the saddle with getting content produced
Coming from an Apple watch Ultra user, I love my Garmin 965.
Awesome!!! 👏
really a complete video. made my mind! thx!
Glad it helped in some small way! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thanks for the video and helping me decide. I’m upgrading from a 735xt and the screen cracked though the watch still works. Either watch would be leaps and bounds over what I have now but I’m gonna go with the 965 for the bigger screen, mapping, and longer battery life.
Nice choice Paul! I think you’ll really enjoy this one. They do make screen protectors for this 965 but they don’t fit perfectly because of this slight dome here. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great video as always
Thanks so much Yevinn!!!
Thanks Matt, nice comparison. I was between the two and finally decided on the 965 for the better battery life, bigger screen and titanium bezel (which in the long run is important as the plastic bezel is very prone to scratches/accidental hits).
Their price is a little close, I think the 265 should have been 50 dollars/euros cheaper, a 200 dollar/euro difference would be more optimal.
I agree. At the end of this video, I waver on the price a bit. At $150, I think I'd spring for the 965. But that's just me. Everyone is different and $450 might already be a stretch for some people. 🤷🏻♂️ Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thanks for the update. My 935 is dying after 8 faithful years. But having a look back. I’m really wondering whether it’s worth the extra money. I think your video clears shows to me who is a runner and hiker. For 90% of my tracking activity that the 265 is more than enough. 965 might be good if I was a triathlete or ultramarathoner. Thnaks. For the clear differences.
You’re very welcome! Hope you enjoy your new watch!
Great informative video. I am trying to decide between these two because after 5 years my 235 finally died. Love the addition of the Lego Mini-figs! lol
Hi Peter,
The 265 would be a very nice upgrade. I’d probably only bump up to the 966 if you need maps or golf ⛳️?
There could also be Black Friday deals if you’re willing to hold out a while. 🤷🏻♂️
It'd cool to see Forerunner 165 in this comparison when it comes out.
Garmin has told me nothing so I guess I'm free to speculate. I'm guessing it'll be similar to the 265 but without training readiness. If so, I'd be right here close to the 255 or Coros Pace 3. It'd also be an easy recommendation for all of the runners I coach. Maybe we'll know something tomorrow or sometime in the next few weeks. 🤷♂️
Yes, it won't have Training Readiness score, only Recovery time tracking with morning report and will only feature GNSS. But AMOLED screen and 19h GPS will make it the best entry-level watch for 250£ @@mlegrand
Great video Matt. 965 for me.
Nice call Troy! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
After 5 years with the 235 I opted to treat myself to the 965 before CIM last year. I love the screen but it’s way too much watch. Serious overkill for just a runner. Hopefully if lasts 5 years and I can justify the money.
Good feedback for people to hear. It's a great watch. I used the 965 on my morning run today. I do wish I had put some sort of screen protector on mine as it now has two tiny scratches on the edge of the screen. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it James! 👍
@@mlegrand sure thing!! With my history, a screen protector was immediate.
Planning to walk across thailand, about 700km over 20-25 days... would you say the 265 is more than enough? if so ill buy using your link. The key for me is to be able to use the garmin connect, so I can connect to my insta360 x4 so it can do that cool speedo overlay thing. Ill have my phone with me, so i wont need those map things, just a decent way to track km, calories etc? Great review bud, thank you. I guess my question is, does it need the gps to track km, or would it still do it, but maybe not as accurate etc?
No pressure on using any specific link. I would say that the main thing would be the fact that the 265 doesn't have true mapping but you mentioned that. I'm guessing you'll want the GPS from the watch to overlay that data on top of the insta360 camera. There's probably a lot of ways to do this and you could even do it with your cell phone's gps if you wanted. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hi! Have been watching some of your videos but still don't know which one would be best. I need a watch that tracks sleep, energy level/training readiness (I'm a flight attendant so insights in this would help me) and for sports I mostly run, hike, swim and do road cycling (for which I need a gps too). 🤔
Have been doubting between 265, 955, 965 or Venu3 🤔
I have a Fitbit Versa 2 now but I have to put my phone's strava app on for runs and bike rides and for swimming I need to count myself as Versa doesn't do it on the watch. 😅🙈
The Venu 3 is missing some swim features that help with kick sets and drill sets. If you don't do those when you swim than it's not a huge deal. The 265 would be excellent for all of the activities that you tend to do. The 955 and 965 would have mapping and golf. I'm not sure if either of those would be of interest?
what should i go for?? i am out for a watch that helps me with insight on my sleep. i usealy want a wach that is accurate, i am leaning on going to 265 cuz its small and nice. but i dont hate 965. i do bodybuilding and want more out of my health. plis help what should i chose.
265. Look for a Black Friday deal. 👌 965 has maps and Golf. ⛳️. If you need that, great. Otherwise skip it. 👍
I’ve had my trusty 245 for a few years and it covered all my regular activities quite well (road, trail, gym, HIIT)
I’m looking to upgrade and the choice between 265 and 965 is much tougher than I thought 😅 I’m looking to get more into Ultras. Is the price difference truly worth it long term? If so, it’s 965
It's hard to say on the price difference. I guess that depends on how price sensitive you are. Don't sell off any kids to get this bumped up new watch. But the 965 has mapping and golf. If that's not super interesting to you, the 265 is a fantastic option. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I have the apex 2, just in the 30 day return window. I am not satisfied with it the screen is small and I love love the materials used which is half of the decision on purchasing the watch. I am thinking of returning it and getting apex 2 pro, 255, 955. Reason is I’m not getting 965 and 265 is don’t see much of a difference plus I like the MIP screens more. Would you recommend me getting the apex 2 pro or 955. Im afraid that i might be not aware of something and that the 955 could be too old or something like that. The 955 is made entirely of plastic so am I willing to sacrifice looks and durability over satisfaction 🤷🏻♂️
The materials are pretty similar for the Apex 2 and Apex 2 Pro so the bigger screen might be all you need. I'd personally probably go with the 955 but the materials are actually nicer in some ways on the Apex series. The AMOLED screens are the major changes coming to the newer devices. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@ thank you for replying back! I agree the apex series has nice materials but the watch is due for an upgrade, I love coros but I feel it’s super heavy training watch, but on the other than I feel like garmin is more well rounded in a way. The 255 is on sale where I live and putting the 955 on double the price of the 255. Would recommend waiting for a discount and getting the 955 or get the 255 right away. Thank and I appreciate you creating those amazing videos and putting in the effort, truly outstanding!
@ the 255 would be an excellent option as long as you’re ok with missing mapping and golf. ⛳️
So useful, thank you Matt !
You are very welcome. Glad it was helpful in some small way. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great vid. And . You saved me.. just doing the dishes while watching this when you started talking about battery life.. "omg. I need to charge my watch!!".. phew.. I can quickly charge and head out for my run still
Awesome! Glad this video can serve as a small reminder. Hope you had a good run!
Hello there. One question. If I have my Garmin Edge 530 and I want to upload the data from the sensors of my bike to my smartwatch can I do it with Garmin Foreunner 965 or 265? Garmin Edge 530 works with Garmin Connect app in my phone, so I guess that a Garmin smartwatch has to have this functionality as well? I mean I want to upload this data to Strava and also my smartwatch as well. Thank you so much
Typically you’ll connect your bike sensor data to either your edge unit or watch but not both. If your bike sensor is connecting over ANT+ you can pair it to multiple devices. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Ya it works exactly the same in regards to the watch uploading to Strava.
Great comparison video! I’m leaning towards the 965 since I golf. They’re on sale right now, $100 off, do you think there will better deals on Black Friday?
I have no idea if you'll see better Black Friday deals. I think I'd make the purchase on Black Friday just in case. I'm also planning to do a live stream on that day, looking at deals. Should be fun. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great review! Are you using these watches in freshwater or the ocean? I am wondering how they would hold up with ocean use and am concerned about salt water corrosion - mostly on stuff like the charging port.
When I open water swim it's typically in fresh water conditions here. Salt water might give the metal parts or charging ports some difficulty but Garmin does test for that. Rinsing it off after each swim would be a good idea.
I just started to run a few times a week and but I’m also a hiker. I currently own a Garmin Instinct 2 Solar. Which would you recommend?
I think the 265 is fantastic but because you are a hiker you might want the maps that are on the 965. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I’m
Really struggling to decide
I wanted to get the 955 but it’s nowhere available in my country
So the choice is between 265 vs 965 but I’m unsure if the 150$ more is worth it for me
Hey Oliver, what stuff do you like to do? Do you like to golf or need maps?
@@mlegrand I do running and swimming and plan to do cycling in the future.
I don’t think I will do crazy distances in the near future but it’s definitely on my to do list for one day.
I do trekking sometimes so maps would be interesting but I always got my phone with me on treks so I don’t necessarily need the maps on the watch.
And I don’t Golf or do indoor climbing.
@@oliverbui2662 - The 265 is a fantastic watch. That's what I recommended for my older brother who does up to 1/2 ironman distances and he's enjoying that watch so far.
amazing video! thank you!!!!
Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Planning on buying the 965 but the size might be too big for my wrist. So thinking of getting a 265 instead. What do you think?
My wrists are tiny and I’ve gotten used to the 965. It’s a beautiful watch but there’s nothing wrong with the 265 if you prefer that watch instead. They’re both pretty similar in size.
As much as my 965 is big on my wrist. I quite enjoy the big screen. I will never go small.
Great video Matt
Battery life I will pay extra for
the stamina and training readiness are key for my next watch. Once my Felix 3 dies or I am doing a long distance tri
That Fenix 3 has done well over the years. 🙌
Hey Matt, cheers from Colombia, great content as always. I really can't understand Garmin's watch lineup. As an ironman Myself, I normally change my watch every time a new one comes (always use the Forerunner), but when I got the 965, it really was a disappointment, the battery is a bummer, and I never liked the wrist move to get the screen on, so having it on all the time, kills it every 6 to 7 days. It was so bad, that I trained last year with an Apple Watch Ultra, and never went back to my FR965. The 955 is a way better watch IMO.
I think the 955 is a phenomenal option. It's also at a better price point. I haven't done an Ironman in a few years but I don't know if I'd choose the Apple Watch Ultra for it if I needed a watch. Other than that, it's great. It's a very smart smart watch. 👌🏻
@@mlegrand Yep, I agree. The 955 its great! And I started using the Ultra last year, because I focussed my training on running through the whole year; having my Audible app, credit cards, and music on the same watch, is amazing. For an Ironman, I'll choose my Forerunner in a heartbeat.
As someone who has a forerunner 745 and is planning to do some ultras (100m at most and Ironmans) would you suggest one of the new watches or the forerunner 965?
I might take a look at the new Enduro 3. It's a great watch at a good price. I'm still finishing up my review but it should be out this week. Are you ok with bigger watches? Any of the 51mm devices have bigger batteries.
Not too much difference in price, so definitely 965 for a bit more
Nice call Exa! Thanks for watching this one!
good review. i think $150 for maps, titanium bezel, and longer battery is a bit steep. not sure why anyone would go anywhere without their phone. if you're going somewhere you could get lost and need directions back or need to find a finish line or food, you shouldn't be going on that journey with just a gps watch 😂
Yeah, that's a pretty big price difference, I agree. 🤔 Thank you for watching this one Brian! And thanks for taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Love the titanium bezel of the 965.
Me too. It’s small but it looks really nice. 👍
@@lhzsdgsfbvv that’s why I bought it
Ok so I have a question… as a forensic scientist I need a watch that will accurately pin point my location and confirm that I was in that location at that specific time.. will this watch do that for me ?
Ok, this is an awesome question. Garmin devices allow you to save your location at any time. It's an option within their quick menu system which could be a nice quick way to do this. It could have issues locating satellites or it could be slow to load satellites if you're inside. By default the "waypoint" has lat/long and elevation. It also names the waypoint by date and time. That name is editable so I'm not sure if that would cover what you're looking to do. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great video!
Thank you!!!
Do you need to wear a chest heart rate monitor for these 2 watches??
They both have optical heart rate sensors built into the back of the watches. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
What? the charging port on the 265 is on the opposite side? Gosh, definitely a deal breaker for me. Thanks for that.
😂 - Why Garmin why!!! This is when you know you review too many Garmin watches and you get annoyed that they moved the charging port on one and only one Garmin model series. 🤦♂️
@@mlegrand ;-D
How rugged do you feel
These watches are? Most of my running is on trails and I’m a bit clumsy. 😂 I like the Fenix but the cost keeps me away. Thanks!
The last three here are pretty durable. I also have a video about the Suunto Race coming up. Anything with a sapphire lens seems to hold up well. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Neither of these have the sapphire lens tho correct? I’d assume the 965 might be a bit more durable with the titanium bezel? My only other concern is how the screen of these is pretty in line with the bezel while some other models seem to be “sunk in” a bit to protect the lens. Thanks again for your videos. They’re very good!
@@jeffhallman676 - right. Both of these have the same Gorilla Glass but I typically recommend a lens protector just in case. The Fenix is the one that has a sapphire lens.
@@mlegrand Thx!
How about if you are a cyclist? What model recommended? 265 or 965?
I just found your videos and it’s being great bc my boyfriend is falling in love with running and I want to support him as I’m a monster that dislike running 💀 He is planning on doing a Triathlon in a couple years and I want to give him something that will stay with him for a long time.
There’s a sale going on and I don’t know what go get him fr 265 or fr 955. What do you recommend?
That's a hard call. Those are both awesome options. He'd be perfectly fine with either. The trade off is maps and longer battery life on the 955 vs the very nice bright beautiful screen on the 265. If he works outdoors or something like that, I'd go for the 955 because the screen does well in that scenario, otherwise I think I'd go for the 265. You're a very kind monster to be buying a nice watch for your boyfriend 😂 but you should try walk/jogging. 3 minutes running, 2 minutes walking. I bet you would be very surprised to see how well you would do in your small local 5k (3 mile) fun run.
Best of luck to you both!
@@mlegrand thank you so much!! I went for the 955, I’ll let you know if he likes it. I’ll try jogging and I’ll be back at the end of the year 😂 thank you for your help
I wonder if you could flash 265 sw to 965 sw... :D
Now we're talking! I'd love to see some hack like this work
I'd take 955 with a huge discount instead of both.Great Vid Matt !
Good call Ryan! Thanks for checking this one out!
Would love to see chapters on your videos.
I can add those in post. TH-cam will actually do it automatically after a few days. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@mlegrand thank you. For runners, do you think it's worth considering any other watches? You also didn't mention display differences in terms of glass, so is the glare a non-issue?
Leaning towards 265 for price but I'd love the 965.
@@MonticArckeys - I'd be confident with the 265. It's a great option. I do have a full video about that specific watch if you want to check it out. th-cam.com/video/yS7y6j1tWUc/w-d-xo.html
Another watch to consider would be the more affordable new Forerunner 165. It actually came out 2 days after this video and I've yet to review it. It should be a great option for runners but it is missing a few things. Triathlon, Training Readiness Score, etc. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
What would you gain jumping to the Fenix 7 pro models?
Nicer material and an excellent flashlight built into the watch body! 👌 🔦
I'm thinking about it..coming from 955
can you change the watchface without the button?
Not that I know of. You can't swipe between Watchfaces like you can in some other devices.
Iv'e had a 645 for like 5-6 years now and i want to change... Im between these 2... But I still don't know what to choose. Im a marathoner... but i do like the occasional hike on marked roads. That large screen and maps are telling me yes... but the $200(canadian) extra have me thinking.
Help.. what do i do? lol!
Ok, I've got you. I suggest waiting until black friday and seeing if that $200 gap is still too much to cover. If so, the 265 is an excellent option and still has breadcrumb style navigation. It won't be as good for hiking but there's always the maps on your phone. 🤷♂️
Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@mlegrand it is already balckfriday sales in canada so the difference isn't going down. thanks for the tips.... now I'm leaning 265.... also having read the other comments from people who had both and returned the 965.
Thanks for the help!!!
By the way... ordered the 265😅
@@juncaarle - Nice! Hope you enjoy it buddy!
This video helped me a lot. Thank you!
You are very welcome. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Any recommendations on a screen protector for the 965? When swimming will a screen protector trap water or moisture on the watch face? Thanks
I use a screen protector on this watch but the issue is that bezel is slightly curved. So you basically have to have a screen protector that is too small to fit just the face of the watch and not the edge. It's not great 😬
Thanks for the video Matt!
Just wondering which would you choose between 955 solar and 265. I At the moment they are selling at the same price in my city.
I don’t do extreme sports, I only run and swim regularly. Cheers! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I’d go for the 265 at this point. Solar wasn’t super helpful on this watch in my opinion. The 955 would have maps and golf if that is any interest to you?
@@mlegrand thanks for your kind reply! Helps a lot!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
the monster says : it's not about hating running....it's about runners :D :D :D. joke aside. Thanks a lot for your video mate. it's helping a lot that focus on the differences and what's right for who. thanks.
😆 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great video man! As casual runner and do gym workout side by side 6x a week, 265 is more than enough. 965 have huge price difference unless there's sale ongoing then get it.
But also as someone just few months bought 955 for $430 and recent just switch to Fenix 7s PRO SS because of steal price $530, just buy what makes you happy (think later your sad wallet haha) 😁
Good point Jervin! I always mention suggested retail prices in these videos but you can some times find amazing deals on the high end options. 🙌 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Wow..where did you find a fenix 7 pro at that price. I have a 955 and I am contemplating on getting the fenix 7 pro myself.
@@jaemylez Its not brand new but only bought last December with 2yrs warranty. I get lucky that some rich dude selling it for bargain price, he has collection of watches.
Try to look at your local markets, there are people especially rich one that impulsely buy things and sell it when they get enough of it 😁.
@@jaemylez But from my Exp, there's not much change from 955 (which I own prior) going to 7 Pro series. You are definitely just paying for Premium build and material. But metrics its all the same and even the HR sensor I dont see much difference. Buuut what I definitely notice is how Heavy it is and that for 7s Pro (42mm) only, probably regular 7 Pro would weight more. I suggest keep your 955 if there's no issue and wait for discounted price or good deal for 7 Pro to come out.
@@jervinreyes21 Thanks for the response. Makes alot of sense. I definitely prefer the size and weight of my 955.
Put on some romantic music so that the Venu 3 and 265 can make a baby 😂
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And now they have a 165. 😮
Yes. And I think it's a really good option for people who don't need triathlon and training readiness. Hopefully I'll review it in the next few months. 🤷♂️
I love my 965 , I choose it after quite a few of your videos! At first try in the store I thought it was too large but after going shopping a few times (my family was going crazy with my tergiversations 🤣) I went for it and I have zero regrets! It keeps me so motivated loving the badges and the levels and the Garmin coach etc! Thanks for your informative videos!
Which one your wife choose. Its nice to know woman opinion
She's worn both of these a lot and she likes them both. Her eyes aren't great so she might go for the bigger 965 but she's currently using the 265 the most. Tricky call for her but I love having a woman's opinion on these watches. I need to get her on camera and giving her opinion a bit more in the future. I think that'd improve this channel a lot. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thank you. It will be great having her. Good chanell❤
Not a monster thank you
👹 - Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment David! I really appreciate it. 👍
Lol. I love hiking and biking and tech. I was never a runner. I preferred sprinting and team sports. Im 6 foot 3 and even in college was 220 pounds. Just not a long distance runner.
Camas
Correct 👍