Just to confirm, Surface pro is a 2 in 1 laptop, we cant really compare with an Ipad, as we can run anything on a surface pro windows, and not on an Ipad. plus you said ssd is un removable...completely wrong. Ram is unremovable for sure, but ssd very easy to swap to another one. but thanks for the review.
I'm gonna switch from a Surface pro 8 to an iPad pro m4. I got the comparison due to a close friend of mine having an iPad and I'd say the iPad is better for a tablet usage (e.g. for students, taking notes, scanning documents etc.), since it has the better apps (GoodNotes, Procreate...) and the Surface is better for a more laptop like usage (e.g. for teachers creating presentations or doing that whole office stuff) since it runs on windows.
As both a Pro 5, iPad Pro (2020) and Pro 11 user, I guess I can support your statement. The iPad is great for note taking, watching videos and so on. It is not that great for more advanced productivity. iPad Pro is really held back by the software, as it in theory could run full on Mac software with great performance. For me the Pro 5 didn't have good enough performance and battery, and the iPad Pro had bad software. In the end I returned to the Pro 11 and I'm loving it. But I'm sure the iPad will be a good fit for the stuff you are using it for :)
Don't go with ipad pro. It's overkill for the tasks you said you're gonna do with ipad pro. M4 chip is a beast for sure, but ipad OS is a cage to leash the beast. You don't have such productivity with ipad os, just go with ipad air or just normal ipad.
I think the bezels are to allow you to hold the device in portrait without touching the display. My personal complaint about the device is the palm rejection. I am constantly getting accidental inputs when using it in landscape to watch videos.
Perfect ending, iPad will never be a MacBook 💻…. It’s an iPad first and foremost, regardless of the Magic Keyboard. I for one, am okay with the iPad Pro and what it is or intended for.
Here's the thing. I use IOS. Everything I work on is apple. So, how would one incorporate Windows? Is there a 'pick up' option? How would I continue work from Windows to Apple? Id like to have at least one Window's device but I don't want it to collect dust as everything is connected via Apple.
What's youtubers obsession with talking about drawing and video editing on laptop reviews? Normal people only care about web browsing, MS Office, media consumption, and maybe gaming
one would assume that in 2024 any laptop will be able to run MS Office and media consumption, would be like talking how a new iphone behaves during a phone call
@@CallMeKJOS Usually 2 in 1s are laptops that can also have tablet like functionality. But the iPad is 100 percent tablet that can use a keyboard. It’s not a computer. I’m hoping one day Apple makes a device like the surface. A 2 in 1 that runs macOS, that’d be phenomenal tbh
@@christianr.5868 true. But there are arguments that the M4 is better in terms of performance which it is but it’s still limited from its OS. My angle really is the windows can give tablet like functionality but it’s also a full computer
@@CallMeKJOS yeah the m4 is definitely better, but it’s held back by Apple unfortunately. They won’t allow programs like blender on it because it’s open source, you can’t run any of the major game engines on it. And let’s say you wanted to emulate older games. Well, even though the m4 is more powerful, its performance in emulators is nothing compared to the snapdragon because more powerful 3D emulators for systems like the Wii and ps2 need something called JiT to run efficiently. And Apple doesn’t allow the use of JiT because.. well they just don’t want to. It hurts virtualization badly too. So yeah, iPad has a lot of power, but only a handful of programs that take advantage of it
What are you talking about? Microsoft does not market Surface as an alternative to iPad at all. This is computer, iPad is tablet. Two very different machines. Learn something first, publish videos later 🙏
@@macmick I literally said this at the very beginning that people like YOU would say this. The surface pro is comparable to the iPad. There are tons of comparisons. It doesn’t take a genius to see that it’s market share they can capture.
@@macmickI think you're taking this literally, people compare the two all the time. Maxtech came out with a video and compared the two just recently. Microsoft did not outright market it as an ipad alternative but by default it still can exist in that space as well as a computer. So yes it is justified. The real problem lies with apple as they limit the software to run alternative apps from desktop despite the fact the m4 is powerful.
@@eds464 I have iPad and Surface, so I know very well what’s comparable, but that’s not the point. The author of this video doesn’t know facts and makes things up, that’s what I’m trying to point out.
Thanks for everyone pointing out the SSD is removable. My bad on that *
Major selling point of this over the ipad is the ability to have full sized desktop apps.
Yes!
major negative is it runs windows and terrible ms customer service.
operating system in general. however i dont view surface products as tablets. just detachable 2 in 1s
@@newfnshow031 ms customer service has been great for me, my rubber feet on my SL5 had issues and they sent a new pair for free in like a week or two
@@newfnshow031negative for you, plus for me
Just to confirm, Surface pro is a 2 in 1 laptop, we cant really compare with an Ipad, as we can run anything on a surface pro windows, and not on an Ipad.
plus you said ssd is un removable...completely wrong. Ram is unremovable for sure, but ssd very easy to swap to another one.
but thanks for the review.
In my opinion, the iPad is a great tablet but not a good laptop, and the surface pro is a great laptop but not a good tablet.
@@jayb8934 that’s one way to look at it.
I'm gonna switch from a Surface pro 8 to an iPad pro m4. I got the comparison due to a close friend of mine having an iPad and I'd say the iPad is better for a tablet usage (e.g. for students, taking notes, scanning documents etc.), since it has the better apps (GoodNotes, Procreate...) and the Surface is better for a more laptop like usage (e.g. for teachers creating presentations or doing that whole office stuff) since it runs on windows.
As both a Pro 5, iPad Pro (2020) and Pro 11 user, I guess I can support your statement. The iPad is great for note taking, watching videos and so on. It is not that great for more advanced productivity. iPad Pro is really held back by the software, as it in theory could run full on Mac software with great performance. For me the Pro 5 didn't have good enough performance and battery, and the iPad Pro had bad software. In the end I returned to the Pro 11 and I'm loving it. But I'm sure the iPad will be a good fit for the stuff you are using it for :)
Don't go with ipad pro. It's overkill for the tasks you said you're gonna do with ipad pro. M4 chip is a beast for sure, but ipad OS is a cage to leash the beast. You don't have such productivity with ipad os, just go with ipad air or just normal ipad.
I think the bezels are to allow you to hold the device in portrait without touching the display. My personal complaint about the device is the palm rejection. I am constantly getting accidental inputs when using it in landscape to watch videos.
yeah i guess so! I do get those accidental touches too!
Also because of the improved camera + Windows hello as well as the magnets to tilt/lift the keyboard.
I don't believe you can use this for 7 hours continuously on battery. I've heard people are struggling for 5 hours and now like 4 hours.
@@chee_wai probably have different uses. Maybe brighter screen etc.
Is 32GB RAM is possible in this model?
It is
Did he say only 500 nits?? 🤨🤨
The ssd on the surface pro 11 is replaceable view via the slot cover on the back of the device
Yup. My bad on that. Could have sworn I saw unremovable when doing my research.
@@CallMeKJOSYou were likely looking at articles about older models there
@@MrMisticZ probably.
Perfect ending, iPad will never be a MacBook 💻…. It’s an iPad first and foremost, regardless of the Magic Keyboard. I for one, am okay with the iPad Pro and what it is or intended for.
@@COR0NAD0 agreed! Thanks for watching!
Here's the thing. I use IOS. Everything I work on is apple. So, how would one incorporate Windows? Is there a 'pick up' option? How would I continue work from Windows to Apple? Id like to have at least one Window's device but I don't want it to collect dust as everything is connected via Apple.
Keep doing these reviews. Also I would like to see the differences in video with the hardware between the surface pro, ipad pro, and MacBook air.
Will do bro! I’ll keep them coming
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What's youtubers obsession with talking about drawing and video editing on laptop reviews? Normal people only care about web browsing, MS Office, media consumption, and maybe gaming
Hey man. I speak from my perspective and the average consumer. I literally talk about how this is good for the things you mentioned.
one would assume that in 2024 any laptop will be able to run MS Office and media consumption, would be like talking how a new iphone behaves during a phone call
Were you able to get your iPhone to connect to the surface and display your texts?
Unfortunately Apple doesn't allow that. Android can do that though
The Pixel does
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A $500 keyboard?!?
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The iPad is a tablet man, not a 2 in 1. Also the ssd can be changed very easily via a slot underneath the kickstand
If you add the keyboard no? It’s what I was going for.
@@CallMeKJOS Usually 2 in 1s are laptops that can also have tablet like functionality. But the iPad is 100 percent tablet that can use a keyboard. It’s not a computer. I’m hoping one day Apple makes a device like the surface. A 2 in 1 that runs macOS, that’d be phenomenal tbh
@@christianr.5868 true. But there are arguments that the M4 is better in terms of performance which it is but it’s still limited from its OS. My angle really is the windows can give tablet like functionality but it’s also a full computer
@@CallMeKJOS yeah the m4 is definitely better, but it’s held back by Apple unfortunately. They won’t allow programs like blender on it because it’s open source, you can’t run any of the major game engines on it. And let’s say you wanted to emulate older games. Well, even though the m4 is more powerful, its performance in emulators is nothing compared to the snapdragon because more powerful 3D emulators for systems like the Wii and ps2 need something called JiT to run efficiently. And Apple doesn’t allow the use of JiT because.. well they just don’t want to. It hurts virtualization badly too. So yeah, iPad has a lot of power, but only a handful of programs that take advantage of it
I really don't care how good Windows devices are, I hate Windows 11, that's enough for me to buy an Apple device
Realistically the majority of devices uses windows so yea. Apple is just restricting so much on their devices.
at this price I would just buy a MacBook. Far better product.
I'm not really fond of Apple but I agree with this
Wrong. To do half the stuff the windows can do on the macbook air, you'd need to buy The ipad. Then you've got 2 devices that cost nearly double.
@@newfnshow031 this isn't targeted to rival the Mac, it's the same logic as with the iPad. At the price of iPad why would anyone but it.
The MacBook doesn't have next gen cutting edge features like multiple monitor support or a touch screen.
@@willbuschmannyup, surface pro 11 is the best laptop for artists. Mac needs a whole cintiq to match it
Why would you call it a flap - didn't you research more about the device?
lol it’s called being funny. Of course it’s a kick stand. Smh
0/10 does not get a joke.
@@rowaystarco 😂😂
What are you talking about? Microsoft does not market Surface as an alternative to iPad at all. This is computer, iPad is tablet. Two very different machines. Learn something first, publish videos later 🙏
@@macmick I literally said this at the very beginning that people like YOU would say this. The surface pro is comparable to the iPad. There are tons of comparisons. It doesn’t take a genius to see that it’s market share they can capture.
@@CallMeKJOS So you literally lied because Microsoft never marketed Surface as iPad alternative.
@@macmickI think you're taking this literally, people compare the two all the time. Maxtech came out with a video and compared the two just recently.
Microsoft did not outright market it as an ipad alternative but by default it still can exist in that space as well as a computer. So yes it is justified.
The real problem lies with apple as they limit the software to run alternative apps from desktop despite the fact the m4 is powerful.
@@eds464 I have iPad and Surface, so I know very well what’s comparable, but that’s not the point. The author of this video doesn’t know facts and makes things up, that’s what I’m trying to point out.
iPad pro actually came after Surface Pro. But for pro use it can absolutely be an alternative to iPad Pro.