Thanks for your quick response. Unfortunately it doesn't. I have the Bilstein adjustable front shocks. I cut the sides off, got longer bolts, added spacers over the bolts so the TRD skid plate would sit lower and the KDSS knuckle would still hit the plate, even when I would go over a speed bump. I actually had a friend fabricate a box ,on the plate, under the knuckle to give it room so it wouldn't hit. That, so far, seems to have helped. Am I correct in saying that there is NO aftermarket skid plate that will work?
A lot of things play a factor in how your 4runner sits. How many miles, how worn out your springs are. The front was probably 1/8th to 1/4 higher in the front than the rear. But it also has to be driven around a little bit to settle in.
Do you guys sell the KDSS spacer and 3,2 ready lift for 5th gen 4Runner ORP? It is impressive how meticulous, careful and clean you guys are. I so wish you were here in Cali.
Hello there just curious if you guys did any recalibration for the ADAS after installing leveling kit. I just heard I’m not sure if it’s true but others are having issues with ADAS due to the change in height with sensors
The KDSS spacer is from Treaty Oak. Yes that is correct, the spacer is only installed on the passenger side. The driver side moves up and down using hydraulic fluid where the passenger side is stationary.
Do the kdss spacer and diff drop kit come separate? On your online store its says that leveling kit is meant for without kdss. Is it still ok to use as long as you have the other kit?
The Maxtrac kit comes with the diff drop. The Icon kit does not. We contacted Maxtrac and they said their kit will work with KDSS (we need to update our page). And obviously the icon kit works as well since we installed it. Diff drop is not really necessary in my opinion.
Yeah. Dr KDSS recommends against a front spacer. If adjustment is needed, the KDSS relocation brackets should be used instead. This spacer they used can cause the KDSS strut to overextend.
Why did u guys do a similar video installing a leveling kit and you used swaybar brackets to adjust mounting but no spacer. Then this video u used the spacer but no brackets? Which is it? Do I need both? 1 over the other?
There is a couple different ways of doing it. As of recently we use the parts from DR.KDSS. Depending on how much your 4runner is lift determines which style you get from them.
I just grabbed a 2023 Limited with 6 miles on it 2 weeks ago. I don’t want to do a bunch of hacking on it. But I’m curious about what size wheels and tires I can run with just a leveling kit. I want to fill out those wheel wells a little more. Diameter, width and offset limits. I’m willing to go with a smaller sidewall.
What kind of tire are you trying to run? A/T or M/T? With a leveling kit I think you can get away with 275/70. I would suggest like a 17x8.5 with a 0 offset.
@@yotaxpedition my Limited running 285/70R17 on 17x7.5 +15 offset TRD ORP wheels with 2.25 front (reduced 1/4in from factory adjusted 2.5 setting) and 1.5in rear.
A little late on watching this video, but how do you guys personally think the level looks with those 265/70/17's? My biggest drawback with doing a front end level is that I'm running brand new 265/70/17 AT tires and don't want to invest in 285's at this point. Will my 265's look overly bad with this level (of course, in your opinion)? Thanks!
how tall is the lift and is it affecting the sensore in the front? I just won a 2023 SR5 from an auction and it`ll arrive in aprile to me. I want to do a lift but I read everywhere that even a 1 inch lift ruins the sensor readings and it has to be reprogrammed or something???
We have had no issues with any lifted 4Runners and the TSS sensor. Could the sensor use a recalibration? Probably. But we have had no reason to look into it.
@@yotaxpedition I hope it does not need recal, because from where I am no one has ever worked on a 4runner 5th gen. and issues like these will be a big problem for me in the future. No garage have software for the truck.
So i just bought this leveling kit from you guys and installed it the other day. However i didn’t mess with any of those bolts for the alignment, should i have? I’ll be getting larger tires and an alignment within the next few weeks
Only one spacer is needed on the passenger (static side) bc the driver side articulates up and down depending on suspension travel .. the static side does not and if it’s not at a level position bc the vehicle has been lifted then the kdss does not work properly. In short driver side will fluctuate regardless but passenger will be off bc the kdss link is higher up without a spacer to push it back down to original (level ) position
Hey this is somewhat related to this video. I have the OME BP51 kit. I have not installed it. But I didn’t get one of those spacers that you highlighted at 3:20. Is that something I should look into before installing it? Did anyone else with this lift get one those spacers in their kit? Sorry for the potentially noob question but this is ALL new to me.
I’m not finding the spacer for the KDSS on the site. Is that needed for a 2023 4runner TRS Off-Road Premium? I just bought it like two days ago and I’m learning about all the systems.
I have KDSS and installed a Eibach Stage 2 Pro truck lift with SPC UCA's. I was told that I wouldn't have issues but I am getting lots of binding noises when turning on angles mostly. Do I need KDSS Spacers in front and rear or just the front?
@@Keydet1992 bilstein 5100 are high adjustable and budget friendly. They won’t give you a crappy ride like spacers and are literally just all around better. You also have many more options but are more expensive and more intended for those are serious off readers.
Nice I have a rig with KDSS good to see the content
Thanks!
Thank you for this video, good job guys 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for your quick response. Unfortunately it doesn't. I have the Bilstein adjustable front shocks. I cut the sides off, got longer bolts, added spacers over the bolts so the TRD skid plate would sit lower and the KDSS knuckle would still hit the plate, even when I would go over a speed bump. I actually had a friend fabricate a box ,on the plate, under the knuckle to give it room so it wouldn't hit. That, so far, seems to have helped.
Am I correct in saying that there is NO aftermarket skid plate that will work?
check out Car Trim Home skid plate
How big of a tire can you run with this spacer?
You say almost perfectly level. Does that mean the front sits a little higher or lower than the rear? Thanks.
A lot of things play a factor in how your 4runner sits. How many miles, how worn out your springs are. The front was probably 1/8th to 1/4 higher in the front than the rear. But it also has to be driven around a little bit to settle in.
would this spacer fit 33 inch tires?
Do you guys sell the KDSS spacer and 3,2 ready lift for 5th gen 4Runner ORP? It is impressive how meticulous, careful and clean you guys are. I so wish you were here in Cali.
We currently don't have the KDSS spacer on our site. Thank you for the compliment!
I like the running boards what are those?
Does the 2" level make the front a little higher than the rear? I've seen leveled 4Runners that the front looks a little too high .Thx
This leveling kit we installed made it almost perfect.
I did the exact same thing to my TRD skid plate and the rear bolt on the KDSS knuckle still hit the plate
Trd skid plate will fit as long as the sides are cut off. On the KDSS model you have to also remove the factory skid plate reinforcement brackets.
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Thanks! Appreciate it!
Hello there just curious if you guys did any recalibration for the ADAS after installing leveling kit.
I just heard I’m not sure if it’s true but others are having issues with ADAS due to the change in height with sensors
We never did anything with the TSS sensors and we never had any issues.
@ thank you!
What kdss spacer did you use in the video?
Also, is seams like you only install a spacer on the passager side, is that correct?
The KDSS spacer is from Treaty Oak. Yes that is correct, the spacer is only installed on the passenger side. The driver side moves up and down using hydraulic fluid where the passenger side is stationary.
Do the kdss spacer and diff drop kit come separate? On your online store its says that leveling kit is meant for without kdss. Is it still ok to use as long as you have the other kit?
The Maxtrac kit comes with the diff drop. The Icon kit does not. We contacted Maxtrac and they said their kit will work with KDSS (we need to update our page). And obviously the icon kit works as well since we installed it. Diff drop is not really necessary in my opinion.
@@yotaxpedition so should I get the kdss spacer with the maxtrac kit?! Please help, this has been a nightmare getting a solid answer.
Perfect...thx guys
I didn’t loosen my alignment cams.
What kdss spacer are you using?
Went to Cali raised to get adjustable 5100 on my kdss 4Runner I don’t think they needed spacer.
Yeah. Dr KDSS recommends against a front spacer. If adjustment is needed, the KDSS relocation brackets should be used instead. This spacer they used can cause the KDSS strut to overextend.
Why did u guys do a similar video installing a leveling kit and you used swaybar brackets to adjust mounting but no spacer. Then this video u used the spacer but no brackets? Which is it? Do I need both? 1 over the other?
There is a couple different ways of doing it. As of recently we use the parts from DR.KDSS. Depending on how much your 4runner is lift determines which style you get from them.
I have yet to find a skid plate that works with the front KDS System. Do you know if there is one?
yes Car Trim Home has one
I just grabbed a 2023 Limited with 6 miles on it 2 weeks ago. I don’t want to do a bunch of hacking on it. But I’m curious about what size wheels and tires I can run with just a leveling kit. I want to fill out those wheel wells a little more. Diameter, width and offset limits. I’m willing to go with a smaller sidewall.
What kind of tire are you trying to run? A/T or M/T? With a leveling kit I think you can get away with 275/70. I would suggest like a 17x8.5 with a 0 offset.
@@yotaxpedition my Limited running 285/70R17 on 17x7.5 +15 offset TRD ORP wheels with 2.25 front (reduced 1/4in from factory adjusted 2.5 setting) and 1.5in rear.
@@LionRunnerthank you for this comment! I’ve been running 275’s on stock off roads. I like the wheels, might be time for the 33’s.
A little late on watching this video, but how do you guys personally think the level looks with those 265/70/17's? My biggest drawback with doing a front end level is that I'm running brand new 265/70/17 AT tires and don't want to invest in 285's at this point. Will my 265's look overly bad with this level (of course, in your opinion)? Thanks!
Keep the 265s until you need new tires, they will still look great!
Where is the best place to get a kdss spacer also what about the bushings?
how tall is the lift and is it affecting the sensore in the front? I just won a 2023 SR5 from an auction and it`ll arrive in aprile to me. I want to do a lift but I read everywhere that even a 1 inch lift ruins the sensor readings and it has to be reprogrammed or something???
We have had no issues with any lifted 4Runners and the TSS sensor. Could the sensor use a recalibration? Probably. But we have had no reason to look into it.
@@yotaxpedition I hope it does not need recal, because from where I am no one has ever worked on a 4runner 5th gen. and issues like these will be a big problem for me in the future. No garage have software for the truck.
So i just bought this leveling kit from you guys and installed it the other day. However i didn’t mess with any of those bolts for the alignment, should i have? I’ll be getting larger tires and an alignment within the next few weeks
If you are getting new tires and an alignment in a few weeks then you should be ok. As long as your 4Runner currently drives safely down the road.
@@yotaxpedition ok cool. Yup i can take my hands off the wheel and it tracks straight
Why wouldn’t a spacer be installed on both sides?
Only one spacer is needed on the passenger (static side) bc the driver side articulates up and down depending on suspension travel .. the static side does not and if it’s not at a level position bc the vehicle has been lifted then the kdss does not work properly. In short driver side will fluctuate regardless but passenger will be off bc the kdss link is higher up without a spacer to push it back down to original (level ) position
is the rear lifted or leveled to fit the 275/70 or is it stock hieght? thank you.
Those fit stock height. I have the original OFF Road wheels.
Link to the kdss spacer?
Hey this is somewhat related to this video. I have the OME BP51 kit. I have not installed it. But I didn’t get one of those spacers that you highlighted at 3:20. Is that something I should look into before installing it? Did anyone else with this lift get one those spacers in their kit? Sorry for the potentially noob question but this is ALL new to me.
Some people after lifting their KDSS 4runner will have a lean. This spacer helps correct that and let the sway bar operate correctly.
I’m not finding the spacer for the KDSS on the site. Is that needed for a 2023 4runner TRS Off-Road Premium? I just bought it like two days ago and I’m learning about all the systems.
We do not have the KDSS spacer listed on the site at this time. The customer we did the install for bought it from Treaty Oak
@@yotaxpedition thank you! What is the best way to do a level for these?? I cannot seem to find a straight answer, anywhere.
I have KDSS with a 3” Fox 2.5 system with no spacer
@@ZacTexCsame here. Dr KDSS sells everything you need.
spacers? why?
Because that's what the customer wanted.
Is this a 2inch leveling kit?
Yes, leveling kit from Icon
can yall update the website for the kdss spacer?
Yes, sorry we are very busy.
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I have KDSS and installed a Eibach Stage 2 Pro truck lift with SPC UCA's. I was told that I wouldn't have issues but I am getting lots of binding noises when turning on angles mostly. Do I need KDSS Spacers in front and rear or just the front?
If you lifted the front and rear then I would get spacers for both.
Sooooo many better options than a spacer. Spacers are crap.
What options are better if one wants to ONLY eliminate the forward rake on a kdss 4Runner? Why are they better?
@@Keydet1992 bilstein 5100 are high adjustable and budget friendly. They won’t give you a crappy ride like spacers and are literally just all around better. You also have many more options but are more expensive and more intended for those are serious off readers.
@@djw5415 Not looking to tinker with KDSS suspension, just level out the front for aesthetic purposes only.
@@djw5415I think you might struggle with math and experience. Spacers don’t affect ride quality and 5100s cost much more