Gorgeous 69 Pontiac GTO, from 20 feet!!
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- Will it pass the acid test up on rack????
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They aren't all show pieces. I would take that one any day. Thats an example of a great driver !
Yes indeed!!!
As a mechanic myself , i believe that the front calipers should be swapped side to side because each were put on the wrong side of the car , as the bleeders should be at the upper point to let the air out, never downwards lile they are now. Aside from that it is a very solid car
A lot have people have picked on that not realizing that wilwood calipers have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be on the right or left sides. You just use the high bleeder and leave the lower one alone 😁
i just commented on that too i would think kiwi would have noticed that too,and commented on it.
A lot have people have picked up on that not realizing that wilwood calipers have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be on the right or left sides. You just use the high bleeder and leave the lower one alone 😁
I was apprehensive, but then relieved. Congratulations to the lucky owner.
Me too!!
This restores my faith that not every "restored" muscle car isn't a hatchet job that is going to take months/years and tens of thousands to fix/finish.
Good!!! There are good ones around but they ain't cheap !!!!
People mix up restored and refurbished. In my mind, restored means turning a car into as close to as it was factory built as possible. So many are just refurbished but advertised as restored.
Kiwi, if that is a real GTO it will have 242 in the VIN number. We missed you last night at Uncle Tony's Place. Just not the same without you there on Thursday night😂 !
Good to see a Nice One for a Change, Hate seeing people get screwed !
I agree completely
Those brackets on the rear end are aftermarket. I used to run them on my GM coil spring cars. They change rear suspension geometry for better tire hookup.
So what are they called
They had a GM stamp on them but it didn't seem like the kind of thing GM would market
@@shacklifecustoms8430 Hi. Different companies used to sell them. They were commonly called no hop traction bars. I have a set on my 71 Chevelle. I can't remember who made them. Mr. Gasket I think. I bought them in the 80's so it's been a while. Andrew
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 I wonder if GM sold them over the counter ( performance parts). They were probably made by someone else for them. If they have a GM stamp on them who know how rare they might be. Thanks for all your no nonsense videos You show the ugly under belly of the classic car hobby that not many talk about. Andrew
I believe people call them Anti-hop bars / brackets. Also GM added braces between the upper & lower control arms frame mounts, often called 4 speed braces, but the RAM AIR Automatics got them too
The owner is lucky to have a sweet ride & the Kiwi stamp of approval !!!! 👍👍
Cheers mate!!
Had a ‘68 with the same color scheme back in the early 80s when I was in HS. Car was a 400,4 speed posi car that came from western MA and for a NE car was surprisingly in about the same shape- frame and underside was almost new only rust spot was in rt front fender near the bottom of the panel probably from a plugged drain. Funny someone picked up on the upside down valve covers I had bought a set of M/T covers to put on and couldn’t get them to fit unless the logo was upside down- bothered me too, I ended up putting the old chrome ones back. Punched out the clock blank and put a Sun tach in there- fit perfect . Added sport mirrors . Put on air shocks to get the rear tires to fit - ya know typical high school kid upgrades . so if it’s survived all these years and someone finds red/black/vinyl top ‘68 4 speed Hurst shifter car with two holes drilled in the trunk for air shocks lines, living in the NE area - I still have a spare set of keys, pictures and some fond memories of her.....
Very cool story, thanks for sharing!!!!
All 69 GTOs had a 10 bolt rear end. The Chevrolet 12-bolt rear end is a nice upgrade. Bench seat was standard and bucket seats were optional. I think the best combo is a bucket seat, 4 Speed, no console.
The hood tach is not a standard GTO item, it is optional as well.
It would be nice to see the cowl tag to see what the original interior and exterior colors were.
10 bolt rear axles were the standard axle with most Pontiacs, but you could also get the type "C" 12 bolt axles in standard and locking rear axles.
Yes I should have shown the tag! Next time 😁 Thanks for info guys !!
What I found online about Buckets verse Bench Seat was that both were "standard", but original Bench Seat 69 GTOs are rare (except the "Judge" version, which as far as I can tell only came with a Bench Seat).
Bench seats were standard in the Tempest trim level and no charge substitutions in the GTOs. Not a common substitution in GTOs, but even rarer in the Judges, but then again most of my observations come from before the internet! @@sewing1243
12 bolt wasn't available in the GTO until 1970, where it came standard with the 455.
Sweet goat. Not a boring video, learned how it’s supposed to look.
First thought "Resale Red!"
I had that sinking feeling too but no. She really is a super solid car
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 No doubt! I made the comment before watching the vid... but it looks good.
@@clintonflynn815 I have to admit I did a bit of a bait and switch on the title. But for all the right reasons😁
I wonder what the original color was. Light green? Verduro Green?
it's good to see an old classic in such good condition
Yea it is!!
It's great to see a good resto and good that you share it. You gotta love the iconic Goat! Sorry to hear about your knee, hope it doesn't give you too much grief and cheers for a speedy recovery.
It really is good to see! I prefer the Pontiacs, Olds and Buicks to the Chevrolet personally. Thanks man!
Eldelbrock upside down valve covers, it works I guess.
You guys don't miss a thing!! It would bug me too!
I'm restoring a 69 GTO Judge for a client who's been screwed by two shops in this build,but after many hours of welding and installing a bunch of new metal..I already fit the parts,then painted all of them...Now the chassis will be painted next week!! Carousel Red,Muncie 4 speed 400 Ram Air With white interior!! Color is amazing!!
Hi Kiwi, nice content!
When you showed the drivers side brake fluid leak I noticed the blender is on the bottom of the caliper, that will never bleed. Maybe they swapped sides for the calipers, then the bleeders would be on top as intended.
A lot of people have caught that but it's a bit of a trap. Wilwood calipers have bleeders on the top and bottom so they can be used on the left or right. Quite clever really. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching😎
Those callipers are generic, and often have bleeders top and bottom
"The Kiwi stamp of approval" is not a phrase heard often! In my opinion it would be hard to overpay for one like this.. Appreciate you and all you do.
Sadly no, gotta make a fuss when ya come across a truly nice one!!
The best part of this Goat, is the "Hop-Stop" bars in the back. I'm sure everyone has chimed in about them.
I put a set on my 65 GTO mid 70s, (marketed by Genuine Suspension back then) and they cured the wheel hop from my Tri powered 389, Muncie, 3.55 12 bolt posi. We all know Pontiac only had a 12 bolt behind their 70 GTOs, and T/As. 70 only. This car didn't come from the factory with it, but it's a nice addition. Actually, the only thing I like about that car. The bench seat, column shifted automatic, and vinyl top should be on a Tempest. Is this a real 242 car? Doesn't matter, i'm sure you've already sold it. Thanks for the tour.
Hmmm, 12 bolt, 70 only birds and gto? Best dbl check your info. 455 powered gto,bird,gp blah blah and certainly not only 70. Cheers.
It's well worth paying someone who is an expert in whatever make or model of car you're looking at buying. Consider it an insurance policy against fraud and the headaches, heartaches and money you'll go through if you don't. What you'll pay someone is a drop in the bucket compared to what it might cost to fix all the problems afterwards, some if which may not be repairable.
Wise words!!!! Thanks for watching!
Another trick for the aluminum intake is to cut the water crossover off so there is a gap between the crossover and main intake. You can then bolt the water crossover down as normal, but align the intake manifold ports with the centerline of the head ports. With the crossover attached, tightening the front bolt can actually pull the manifold ports off center and create power robbing turbulence due to misalignment.
An old dude years ago showed me how to tighten up one of those Pontiac intakes ,and basically he said get all the bolts in but loose ,and tighten that small front one first and pull on the intake while laying across the rad support. Have the main bolts loose enough so it can slide but not lift and snug that front bolt and move on to the other intake bolts.
It's definitely a feel thing to get em snug enough so it'll slide a little and not lift,or be too tight and not move.
Nice to see one done right. Beautiful car.
I agree A breath of fresh air for me
The car looks super solid, + Its got a real frame under it, not like the crappy early Mustang unit construction. Minor detailing/repairs =great car. Izzy Strong,,,
She's a gem!!
Back in the 80’s and 90’s I had several 1970 GTO’s. If I remember correctly, 1966 and later had identifying numbers in the VIN for the GTO (3137?). Those upper control arm mount relocation brackets are aftermarket. Sold as “Hop Stop” mounts. Boxed lower arms and sway bar look correct to me. “Ram Air” terminology is generally reserved for cars the have functional air intakes and matching air filter housing that are open, on this car they are cosmetic but still correct for a base GTO.
The funky intake mounting is cool in that it eliminates the rubber hose from the water pomp housing but often results in port mis-match between the heads and manifold. A not insignificant of power can often be gained with a quick port match using thin cardboard to get an impression and grinding the intake ports to match, or better yet the heads if they are coming off.
The seats were overstuffed by the upholstery person but I have seen buckets and column shift before. I believe the instrument gauges (not dummy lights) were standard on the GTO but the dash tack was optional as was the hood tach.
It looks like the front calipers are on the wrong sides as the bleeders are pointing down.
Without the A/C compressor in the way the engine numbers should be easy to read on the front of the block, passengers side. As you would expect, having its original engine would add a lot of value to the car.
Very nice example! Thanks for showing it to us! 👍
Thanks for all the info! The calipers are wilwood and have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be used in the left or right sides. Pretty smart really.
I thought for sure here we go again but no nice looking car. Very nice
Yeah I kinda bait and switched ya there😬. But for all the right reasons😁😉
Weird science comes to mind with this car.😍😍
The title says it all...thanks for sharing Kiwi! Finally not one that's on the piss!
Your welcome, thanks for watching
Always nice to see one that’s actually what it appears to be ! For all of the reality hacker videos you’ve shown I appreciate that you’ve found one that gets the Kiwi stamp of approval ! Lol. Take care Chris
It's nice to work on one too!! Fixing other people's cock ups and/or deliberate corner cutting does start to wear on you after a while. It's also refreshing that this video is doing so well with the viewers, it's well on the way to being my most watched video! Thanks man😎👍
VIN number will start with 242 if it's a real GTO. Bench seat was available for both the GTO and Lemans.
Good to know. Thanks!!
Bench seat on a GTO would be an option as the GTO package option included buckets and console as standard.
@@skeptic3332 ya what kind of an oddball opts for the bench? lol
Someone who likes to get close to their date at a drive in. Duh
I've seen many 442s w a bench
Yes sir those are "no hopper bars" I bought those for a 69 El Camino way back in the mid seventies (of course also fits Chevelle). Set up with the factory sway bar they are supposed to work well for traction control. Of course I have not used them as with the El Camino one must have the rear end jacked up in order for the tops of the bars to clear the bed floor. I still have them on this car but will be removing them as they are not practical for the El Camino application. This car looks to be in good shape to begin with and it makes a good driver. Some people are not so concerned about being "correct" in every detail striving to be original. But one must be aware if one is going to purchase said vehicle as it of course has been modified to suit the owners taste and that should be stated if the car was ever to be sold. This does appear to be a good build.
It may seem like a minor thing to some people but that nose looks like it was replaced because when Kiwi is under the front and the camera is shooting up from out front you can see what appears to be areas under the "cross bars" where the paint missed. My Poncho never was like that. The original noses were not cheap if you busted them. That's why so many used ones sat on the used car lot with cracks in them. Also I think there is a lower chin or cover piece missing. That used to be one of the first casualties when you pulled up to park "nose-in" to a curb. But on the question of authenticity I would just add that by this year in the "Muscle Car Era" it was getting easier and easier on some cars to just swap a few parts and try to call one thing another thing. I know to many here I'm stating the obvious but you never know when someone who doesn't know might read this and get some benefit from the warning.
For the rear being different the engine/trans might be too and the tendency was strong among owners back in those years to just grab a high performance manifold and a 4 barrel and throw it on in place of the 2 barrel when you were just mainly running around on the street. It was a budget/ignorance thing and so the higher compression heads and different cam never made it onto the car many times. Then the car would get sold used and scrapped and the engine gets swapped around and people don't check numbers and they think it's the high performance 350/400 when it's not.
The coil springs could also be different. Wish I had my beautiful brown car back again.
So refreshing to see you check one out and it all looks good Kiwi. Thanks for doing this video, I' sure the GTO guys will tell you if that bench seat is correct or not..
It's refreshing a for me too! Nice to see it's getting a lot of views too😎
The front caliper bleeder should be facing up at the top.
Wilwood calipers have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be used on either side. Just use the top bleeder 😁
Looks like wheelie bars were welded on axle tubes at one time
This car looked like the gas tank had been dropped at some point, but often a copy of the build sheet can be found taped to the top of the gas tank. Leaky trunks can ruin the build sheet though and then you have to contact Pontiac Historic Services (PHS) for a copy. Bench seats weren't a common substitution, but they are out there. The interior trim code for a black bench seat should be 268, and for black bucket seats 258.
I'd say it would have been. I'm waiting for the day I uncover a build sheet. Someone's always been there before me so far.. thanks for the info and thanks for watching
Corvette Build Sheets are on top of the Gas Tank.
For the rest of GM cars they are either under the Carpet or tucked in between the rear seat springs.
The build sheet was taped to the gas tank of my 1969 GTO.@@malibuconv1968
My college room mate had a goat and we raced often from red light to red light . I remember an old fkr in a Commando beat us and beat us bad 🤣 . Gears baby , gears
Lovely car...thanks for sharing Kiwi and I hope you feel better soon!
Cheers mate👍
Thanks for the videos 👍
Your most welcome. Thanks for watching!!
Hood mounted tach is the coolest hottest forgotten unused addition ever.
I was just thinking the other day that there can't be any good ones out there any more. Then Kiwi restores my faith yet again.
They're out there, you have to look!! And pay😁
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Yes, I have seen what look like some amazing "looking" cars out there. From down under it is hard to judge. Seen a couple recently but watching your channel, I now know a few wee tricks to use to spot some of the bad ones. Even just looking at some auction photos I have seen cars where the frames are obviously bent because the bumpers are a couple of inches out from one side to the other yet the paint is brand new and of course the underside is thick coated with underseal.
Nice to see Kiwi show one that's actually not a flipper.. great learning tool for what to look for
Those are Lakewood anti hop bars. I don't think Lakewood makes them anymore but QA1 does now. I still have them on a Chevelle...They work.
Kiwi, thanks for the interesting content. It's Thursday night so you might be doing something with Tony? Always like the GTOs had a 65 389 single quad for speed. Fun car of my youth.
Glad you enjoyed it!! That does sound like a fun car!
Thats a sweet Pontiac
Yes indeed !!
Lakewood "no-hop" bars
Lakewood, the bellhousing manufacturers??
Bench seats could be had in GTO models. The VIN will show 242 for a real GTO in 1969. It breaks down as 2 for Pontiac, 42 for GTO, 37 for two door, 9 for 1969 model year, then an assembly plant code, and the rest is the production sequence.
Good info, thanks man and thanks for watching!!
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160Sure thing. You can always show the trim tag (under the hood, left side by the windshield) which will state the original paint color, Fisher Body style (in this case 24237 if it's a GTO), assembly plant code, seat type and color, build time frame, and other details. That does not have the VIN number on it, so you wouldn't be putting out any owner's information.
Think I'll start doing that!!
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 On Ford products, it's on the door, AMC products on the driver's door jamb, GM products, typically under the hood, etc. You can show the VIN, just cover up the last six digits which are the unique production sequence of that vehicle. The rest is not "confidential information".
Uncle Tony would be proud of this car
He would even though it's a bit too pretty for him.
ya you could get them that way VIN should start with 242 if so it's a GTO ,Those brackets on the top of the rear end are called "No Hop" bar's to stop wheel hop took place of the old Ladder Bar set up guys used to use back in the day they are not GM
one of the teachers in my elementary school in the 70s had as GTO judge..orange witthe decals..was a cool car! Personally i always wanted a boneville or a catalina..
The Judges were very cool!! Great era to be alive in!!
Top flight A number one GTO !!!!
I've owned one Pontiac in my life and it was quite the learning experience! Fun car though... Get Well soon Kiwi--I had surgery today and I'm the couch watching you!😎
Cheers mate. Get well soon, hope it wasn't too serious🤞
It's nice to see a good one like this. Great daily driver!
Those brackets on the rear, are called "hop-stop" bars......it relocates the instant center of the car, to help STOP whell hop during hard acceleration.. my '64 Tempest has 'em
I'm starting to feel like I was the only to not know what they were😁😎
Very nice ride!
It's one of the good ones
Nice!!!!!
Yes it is!! Thanks for watching
I like the upside down valve cover
A little time detailing the bottom and in a week of spare time puttering around that car could be really spectacular
"Underneath , where the story is told " indeed
Are the front calipers reversed? I thought the bleeder screws were supposed to be at the top. But I've never used Wilwood brakes so I could be wrong
Wilwood's have bleeders top and bottom so they can be used on the left Or right side. Always one at top
Those bleeders had me wondering for a sec also, an interesting detail I will hang onto. @@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
Good to see a GOOD CAR!
Thanks for featuring a clean machine! It's a breath of fresh air after the recent problem cars.
For you and me both man!!
its nice to see...!...that there r some honest people out there..!..?...see if it turns out to be a "real" GTO....let us know Kiwi...!..thank u good video as always...!..
Thanks bud glad you enjoyed it!
lakewood no hop brackets. relocate the upper control arm mounting point to change the instant center for more anti squat.
Thanks for the info and thanks for watching!
The added differential hardware is a traction stabilizer.
Anti hop bars I've been told
GTO's and Chevelle SS's could have bench seats. That looks like a Chevy rear end. Pontiac 12 bolt rears (they are really 10 bolt rears) have smooth covers. Chevy has the ridge. The brackets on the rear are after market no-hop bars. Do those front calipers have TWO bleeders on them? If not, then they are on the wrong side because bleeders should be on the top. Looks like a good car over all.
So glad you don't have to make 'that call' to the owner.
Yes!!! Making them feel proud is so much better than making them feel sick.....
Those brackets are anti-hop "bars" ....Vin should start with 242...
what a beaut kiwi nice example for references to what is acceptable
Love the early GTO’s - esp the front end grille. The video title should be changed to “…- from 3 feet”, not “20 feet “ ( which in itself is insinuating there’s something wrong with the car).
Bench seat was standard as was the column shift. GTO will have a VIN beginning with "242"
Strato bucket seats were standard equipment. Strato bench seat could be ordered only with black or parchment interior.
I had a 70 Chevelle SS 396 in 74 that had a standard bench seat and 4-speed with no striping. Red w red interior, awesome car.
Seems odd to special order a bench seat. 🤔👍
I think that was the only way to get a column shift, too. I bought a Strato bench seat from a guy who replaced it with Racing buckets. I installed it in a 59 Chevy Apache Shortbox Fleetline I was building into a street rod back in the mid 70's. The fold down armrest and Pontiac pleating gave it a great Custom look
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 The bench seat would be much lighter weight than two buckets and a console. Looks like this GTO may have been originally ordered purpose-built for street racing and/or drag strip racing. Especially since it was later modified with the hop bars and 12-bolt axle. The incredibly clean undercarriage sure makes it look like this GTO never saw any snow covered roads in the winter. Beautiful GTO!
1:48 was hoping he'd "test" that endura bumper like the old magazine (or was it tv) ad 😂😂
It was a pleasure for me as well.
Good!! Glad you enjoyed it!!
I was was for the but look what we have here nice car
It looks like the calipers are mounted on the wrong side. The bleeder is supposed to be at the top of the caliper, not the bottom.
Yes it does look like that. But the Wilwood calipers have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be used in the right or left side. You just use the bleeders at the top. Good spotting though!!
The lno-hop bars idea is to change the geometry of the rear suspension to plant the tires and stop wheel hop at the same time.
I've seen those [gold] brackets sold before - marketed as some kind of rear suspension improvement - axle wrap or wheel hop... I forget. Never owned a Pontiac or installed one of these, but geometry points to function based on altering instant center..
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ALL older cars have dirty secrets............!
A well looked after example for sure. Very nice. Umm, just a quick observation, was that leaking caliper on the correct side? Just looked from here like the bleed nipple is at the bottom.
Get that knee sorted soon too bud.
Wilwood's have bleeders top and bottom so they can be used on the left or right. Kinda clever really. I'm tryin to man, thanks
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Ahhh, smart thinking. I know nothing about Wilwoods, just something I automatically look at, as that's the biggest single brake issue with Valiants down here, calipers on the wrong side, as the nipple location is deceptive.
good to see a solid car . no shotty patch ups or bad welds.. lol
It makes for a pleasant change😁
good to see anice old car that not been fugged with
Those are aftermarket brackets on the rear axle that changes the pinion angle in order to get better traction.
Maybe invite Tony over to see some good news for a change?
He loves the bad news😁
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160, Only because they weren't MOPAR!
That's true😂
Thats a nice Pontiac must have spent it's hole life in a garage to be in that nice of shape.
Either that or somewhere like Nevada. Thanks for watching
That beauty seems more of a refreshed survivor than a restoration. It was probably stored in a controlled environment or it is from a dry area of America. The problem for me would be that it is too nice to actually use. For me a car that has been properly restored to say a level 7 or so out of 10 would be better because I would want to drive it ......... a lot!
This will be driven a lot. The owners in love it, as he should be!😁😎
I'll take the dull video, the dullness makes it great👍
I agree!!😁. Thanks for watching man!
Why don't auto makers remake the classics instead of re-imagining them? I, for one, would buy a, well any, 1960s remake. For instance my old 1967, 440 GTX. Just a plain and simple remake of the original. Only thing on that make and model would be better brakes.
Hello fellow kiwi 👋. I’m from Westport. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks man! Thanks for watching.
My El Camino looks great from a distance 🤣
Mopars of the era...a lot of bench seats and/or column shifter. That does appear to be a very nice, enjoyable driver you can enjoy
It's a higher end driver for sure!!
I had a 69 too, same kind of red, parchment interior though.
They are no hop traction control bars, they change the pinion angle to eliminate wheel hop on launch. Qa1.makes a set for around $225.
Gas, Tires, and Oil.
That's what we used to say.
That is a very nice car. I wouldn"t kick it out if my garage. All that numbers matching and oeriod correct shit is for investments not driven and bragging rights. A real tire peeler is a solud driver and NOT a trailer queen, it don't brag, it hustles with muscles!
Very well said sir!!!
Its a gm thay dont rust😊😊😊😊
Or breakdown right....😁
I will admit, what I am about to say, could end up being totally wrong. To me personally, that really does look like a le mans that someone added GTO Judge appointments to. The bench seat throws me off as does the automatic transmission. Then you combine that with the combination of vinyl top, the Judge style hood ( with tach ) and rear spoiler. Good on who ever built it to not try and totally make it a judge. Mind you, I don't mind restomods at all. I just am not a fan of those who would take a le mans and make it identical to a judge, and then try to pass it off as a legit judge. Where as a judge inspired restomod, I am a fan.
He needs to keep that garage kept and avoid salt roads,also undercoating wouldn't hurt I think
The caliper is leaking because they need swapped from side to side on the front. They are upside down, bleeder down. The Bleeder ALWAYS goes up. Not a big deal, swap em and rebleed the front brakes, all fixed.
This has caught a lot viewers out. The wilwood calipers have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be used on the left or right. You just use the top nipple for bleeding. Smart thinking by Wilwood !
I'm feeling like that bleeder shouldn't be on the bottom of the caliper, beautiful GTO, buddy of mine had one dark green metallic, really good looking, ran a little hot, couldn't have been due to his heavy foot.🤔😆😄👍
Wilwood brakes have bleeders on the top and bottom so they can be used on either the left or right. Nooo wouldn't think so🤔😉
Kia Ora bro from Waikato