True story, mine works for its intended purpose. I just wanted something to stand on my dresser and look nice. But, when 2 people... "entered" my car and saw me running and yelling with it at 2am, well, I got most of the dropped stuff back and never saw them again.
In my country a guy saw on CCTV couple people stealing his bike, he took the elvator down, got when he got out he unsheathed a full length katana and chase the robbers... It was pretty effective. This is why I keep a boken and a shinai in my room, its not metal, but I'm sure no one would want to stick around to find out its bamboo lol
I mean, it's a sharp piece of metal. A sword doesn't have to be good to be deadly, especially in the modern age where people don't wear armour or have training for a sword fight.
I petition that Little-Fang be fitted with a proper handle (or, at the very least, a nice leather-wrap) and be custom-designed into a proper short-sword! 😮😊
Personally, I'd love to watch Tyranth doing that then testing to see how much the black ronin is improved. Granted it's only stainless steel; but, it sounds like there was some tempering done to the blade from Shad's and Tyranth's remarks.
I wish a medieval fantasy game would have the starter sword as a cheaply made or less functional blade, with the upgrades being better made and more (functionally) extravagant. I've never seen a fantasy game do that in a believable way - except maybe KCD, which isn't particularly "fantasy".
Skyrim kind of does this. Only kind of, and without the "functional" part of functionally extravagant. Skyrim swords are like big paddles but they do get more interesting looking designs as you get to higher tiers. I think it's the same problem that video game guns often have, the developers don't know anything about them except what they personally think looks cool. So you end up with stuff that looks moronic to anyone who knows even the basic principles of the topic. They just don't know what would look "extravagant" without actively hindering the weapon.
I remember a game called slasher's keep that kinda has that mechanic, where you can forge your own weapons from collected pieces and combine them as you go through the levels such as sword hilts and blades, or hammer head and shafts
Chrono Trigger (kinda medieval, it includes time travel) and Thousand Arms are just two of many games. in minecraft the first weapon is a wooden sword, and 2nd best is diamond sword.
The ones in other countries are spying on those countries. Its actually that the ones in Japan are up against citizens who are better at countering a spy.
That black ronin isn't half bad. Even as stainless steel it still held up rather well and considering how well it cut with minimal sharpening. I'd have no qualms owning one of those though I'd put a proper hilt on it. Another cool thing that could be done is put it on a pole or better yet, a half sized pole.
it actually does pretty good. I broke the spear head on one of those aweful M48 spears, and stuck a similar short sword from united cutlery on it the shaft instead. makes for a nice cobbled together short spear.
I have one of those, the straight one. It's not actually that bad in the hand. I have other cheap blades with paracord wraps and have used them to cut down bushes that at points were over an inch diameter and a tree that was about a 3 inch diameter, years ago they were $20 and iv put them through real use and they are just fine, still have them.
Shad is enrolled in the Elder Scrolls school of sneaking about. He's so sneaky he can just crouch walk up to you in the middle of the street and you'll never see him coming. After all, it was only the wind, right? 😂
machine shop? for drilling a few holes? seriously? do you own zero tools? i could do that in any garage I've ever been in,including family and friends.
I was once a mall rebel but then I hit my 20s and searched for real information over magazine and MTV bs. As for blades and medieval stuff, I am staying in cosplay land with sharp blades being left to displays. As for gaming, that's where you guys come in.
No joke, I had one of those swords from the first segment, the chunky one with no curve. It was something my brother got in a mystery sword box. I brought it to Papua New Guinea and carried it around while I was on night watch. I lent it to someone and they took it home, lol.
This cuts me to the marrow. my honor is stained! bring me my forehead protector. (No, not the mouthguard. NO, not the rollerblading helmet either! You known the folding chair back I cut out with tin snips!. What? I didn't need THAT many stitches. Only 30. Ok, fine. 73. Bring it anyway!)
i'd love to see you guys make your own tacticool/mallninja weapons... you each make two... one to look cool and the other to function well... let's see what you guys come up with...
@@anderporascu5026 The Titan sword is a project that Shad and Tryranth have doing on this channel for a long time now. The Titan sword project is them trying to make a functional giant sword by their own design. You should look you their videos on it. They’re some pretty good/fun videos.
@@anderporascu5026 they have an ongoing project to build a sword of ridiculous proportions out of mostly carbon fiber and kevlar. I think they are working with some materials science folks from a nearby university or some such.
I fully admit I'm an owner of a $20 mall ninja Katana (that I've wanted since I was a kid) and I fully admit I *DID* swing it around my yard at night the day I bought it, just so I could finally feel what it's like to do so. Funnily enough, I have it sitting next to my mancave door and *every single male friend* I have *immediately* upon seeing it, picked it up, unsheathed it, and thought it was cool af lol. I'll get a functional one someday but until then, my little nephews and nieces are confident I'm not only one of the coolest dudes on Earth, I'm a ninja of some kind too lol. 😃
well, i bought a blunt show katana and bent it first day on a log. "Steel" was so soft, it bent like nothing. Good thing was, it was almost as easy to bend back. its now standing on my bedside in case someone wants to enter my flat un asked
@@GlitchedUtopia Yeah I gotta "man cave" and it kicks ass. What in the F makes you think I give a damn what you personally think of it? I love my toys and if you have a problem with it, you can go kick rocks Mr. I can't spell Utopia. 🙄
I broke/bent a mall Highlander sword(It was a Duncan model)once. The first little tiny sapling of a soft wood bent the blade to one side enough it was just goofy. I wasn't expecting much. Funny enough I sold it to a kid I worked with for 10 dollars more than I paid for it bend and all. ROFL.
I had some money and decided to buy a bunch of cheap shit like those, what i found was 440c is basically the minimum for a swing around the yard sword or machete. Holds up like you found suprisingly well, that being said yes the longer ones are problem usually because shit welds at handle that snap. Still have a few actually XD
Hahaha, I love the Mall Ninja series! 😊 I have always loved shopping at BudK and simply avoiding the lesser gear, and I usually was getting more operable blades (mostly Honshu ones), but I was like, “You know: some of this wouldn’t be bad for Shad’s Mall-Ninja series!”, and then zoom! Here we are! 😂😊
I've been waiting for a video like this for a long time! I (like most of us) started out with Mall Ninja Crap and always wondered if any of it would sort of perform. Also, the dynamic between Shad and Tyranth is just pure gold xD
I love how these two guys just duke it out with one another..... Tyranth is the superior technicality striker.... hands down... so its fun to see their skill levels and collaborative decisions on things, Nice job as always Shadiversity
I have something I've been wondering. So, I have an old machete. I've had it since I was like 14. I'm 41 now. It was a military surplus thingy, and the steel is very good. But the plastic handle was rubbish and at some point it fell apart. So I taped it up with electrical tape. It's still with me, still with that same fallen-apart handle and the same electrical tape wrap, which is like 20 years old now. I've never had a grip that felt as good in my hand, in the entire 20-something years since then. It's still perfect. Just a simple machete with a plastic handle, wrapped in electrical tape, and I can chop branches as thick as my wrist with it in one hit. So I'd like you to try wrapping your handle, hilt, whatever with electrical tape and tell me what you think. Cheap, simple, low-overhead subject for a video.
@8:48 you've got a curved blade and got that rotational momentum working for you this time Shad. A lot of people underestimate power of rotational momentum - part of the bonus is it tends to have less "push away" effect on the target's center of gravity.
So for the grips on my sword I removed the terrible nylon rope grip and instead glued wooden planks , YES I know stay with me, I would have attached those grips differently but It's cheap and I don't really care for it enough so yeah, I glued on flat wood planks and made it look like the grip of a kriegsmesser and to my surprise the thicker grip actually helped a lot, if y'all decide to revisit these swords I would suggest this Idea
I bought one of these back around 1999, I took the wrap off, made wood handle scales and attached them with 3M double sided automotive tape. (The kind that holds on vehicle emblems and body trim) Then I wrapped athletic grip tape around that. Used that thing as a machete, and beat on it for well over a decade. Doesn't hold an edge like modern super steels, but overall held up and worked great! Fun and effective bargain blade for sure!
Bought one (the one with the American tanto style tip) back in 1999. Sharpened it, made a more comfortable handle, and used it as a machete. Beat/ wailed on that thing like a maniac for well over a decade with great performance and success... before eventually learning from blade snobs that it's supposed to be junk. lol I can tell you it worked great, was really fun to use! I also carried it across my back, which also worked fantastic! I still have it, only found myself using it less once I started buying more expensive blades/toys, and making my own blades.
You should test the curved one against a thick modern jacket and then a gambeson to see how well it fairs! These are obviously not made with the expectation of facing armor or other weapons, but since it did so well in the cutting might as well see how good it really is.
You've done lots of sword fight autopsies, but I would like to see you react to scenes of sword masters training and giving advice in movies and shows. I was watching Avatar: The Last Airbender and wondering what you'd think of the training the sword master (not sure how to spell his name) gives Sokka. Just an idea!
I would be interested to see how Little Fang ranks if it gets a proper grip. Maybe not worth a whole separate video, but an improved Little Fang cameo would be nice to see
This is a fun video, very enjoyable. Also has Tyranth put on weight? As for the "Good" one, I could see it being potentially useful as a Larger Filet Knife. Would have to carefully remove the coating, sharpen it, and improve the handle. But as a Filet Knife for Sea Bass/large fish, could work well.
I actually used to own one of those straight ones and I used it for cutting through light brush and it actually worked great for that. I even used it to protect myself from a stray dog that tried to attack me in the woods once. It was light and held a decent edge, not great but decent. I did do a lot of work to make the handle better though by putting some wooden scales on it. It would bend sometimes but it was always easy to straighten out. All in all for a disposable tool its not all that bad. I always had something better in my pack just in case, but I treated that one with a bit more respect than the one you are showing. Also, the one I had wasnt made from stainless, it was something else. Or at least I think thats the case. In my experience stainless is very difficult to straighten once bent but the one I had wasn't very difficult to straighten and it didnt get that discoloration that stainless gets when heated either. I used it as a fire poker after I stopped using it in the trail.
I once broke a rather expensive machete on a camping trip and bought a $17 gas station replacement for the week. It’s about 20in overall, with a matte black blade and actual cardboard sheath. after rewrapping the handle with some proper paracord and touching up the edge it’s become my go- to for backpacking and has taken more abuse than it has any right to.
those 36 dollar short swords by united cutlery are abit of fun if you got the tools to put a better handle on em. I had one I really liked the blade on but hated the wrap. So I took some left over walnut from a desk build and got my drill out and put my own handle on it instead of that stupid mall rope.
Been watching too many of these videos. I had a dream I visited Australia and tested swords with Shad. It was a good dream, but that's how I know I've been running these videos in the background too much while I work. lol
My first Sword was 100% a mall ninja sword. It was a square tsuba, straight, black blade Ninjato wall hanger. Bought it on a school field trip back when you could buy wall hangers from souvenir shops in the UK (Which says how cheap of was since I could afford it with field trip money). Understandably got some grief off of the teachers when they found out.
Many years ago I had the same straight-bladed one that you have in this video, just because I thought it looked cool at the time, and never had any intention of finding a 'practical' application for it, but after extensive resharpening, I did find it useful for clearing brambles from the field where we kept our horses 😅. I did make some wood scales and re-wrapped the handle though, as the one it came with was utter dog crap (well, to be fair the entire blade is too, but as far as I'm concerned it was just a gardening tool 😁).
I've owned some j-2 stainless blades with good spring ng tempters to them. They came with a rat tail tang, and so I got rid of that and took my grinder and gave them a full tang. Truly good blades to this day and I cannot bend to break them, they always snap back into straight. I have torture tested them on a brinks home safe and hard woods back in the day, and they are still with me today. They started out as the no name brand of the strider ranger sword and the anduril that I got from eBay.
Ive haf the Tanto version of the Black Ronin for years. I've done some chopping with it and accidentally hit a nail in a board. No chips, minor glinting. Pretty good. There was a period of about a year or two when United Cutlery discontinued that particular design and relabled the other one as "black Ronin" but it didn't sell, so they brought back the original design.
@Shad 12:35 - 12:45 , Shad you're locking your wrist in the horizontal strikes, if you look at 12:45-ish you'll notice Tyranth is allowing his wrist to rotate at the last moment. This results in a significant blade speed increase, similar to the snap motion on a drop kick, or the end of a whip. It results in T- having two rational centers, one at the end and the other a multiplier, whereas the "from the shoulder" or "from the elbow" used by Shad has singular rotational point with no accelerating factor and a much further and clumsier striking motion that would need hydralic pressure levels of strength to get the same blade acceleration. It's not a difficult improvement to make once you've realised what it is.
I forgot my finger was on the screen and so it was playing at two times speed. I’m glad I forgot because watching Shad angrily swing at the pool noodle at two times speed was hilarious.
Still have a couple mall ninja weapons, the knockoff highlander sword is hanging in the den and a few others turned out to be pretty handy for clearing briars on the edges of my property so they just kinda hang in the shed year round, then I saw the links in description were Budk which is where I bought them
Knowing that short swords have a lot of faults, I actually like the little fang too. Drill and pin a nice handle to it and it would be a fun little cutter that you wouldn't be upset about abusing or damaging.
My buddy bought a mall ninja double headed single hand "battle" axe 14 years ago. First thing he did was throw it at a tree, it stuck and the metal through tang handle literally exploded from the force. He paid 80$ for it 🤣 the blade and tang were fine so I bought it from him for 10$ and attached it to a wooden two handed axe handle and it served me good for years lol just as a play thing
Story time. Had the straight version ninja style a couple of years ago let's say it was my least favourite sword I'd tell people that it was nore of a large knife. Wanted a straight katana sort of thing and saw one at a camping shop. Sharpened it to bring it to a decent edge really wanted it to be good so decided to reduce the length of the grip so that theres just room for one hand with a curve like a Chinese Dao and added weight at the grip for balance. Burnt through 6 hacksaw blades, 6 hi-speed steel drill bits as well as two cobalt drill bits using oil and care to avoid damaging them in an attempt to install the additional steel on the grip. Ended up taking it to a professional letting them know that whatever it is that they used to construct the grip is some insane steel, the guy was unable to accomplish the task and it has since become a failed project thats been left at the shop in the too hard basket for two years!
I'm thinking about taking a simple bar of mild from Home Depot, shaping it in a blade shape, and quenching it in used motor oil for the case hardening effect to see how good it would hold up.
The black Ronin, is a perfect option for what it is. A very cheap, easily replaced, beater blade that can cut well , take some reasonable abuse, and all it really needs is maybe some tennis tape to guve the handle more shape and cushion but for a short self defense blade or backpack camping fun blade its perfect
Hey Shad and Tyranth. I wonder if the fang (the Black Ronin) could be "modified" with a handguard, a pommel and a possibly better wooden grip, it could become a proper short sword of a dha variety. I wonder if you consider it. And possibly the other one, with the same modification and a proper sharpening. Have a nice time.
Am I the only person who wants to see Tyranth get another Black Ronin, give it a proper sharpening, and make some wood handle scales for it? I honestly think if he put a little effort into it he'd have a decent (not great) little blade.
My first sharp sword was a mall ninja sword my grandma got me on Christmas. It was also painted but the edge was not painted and it was really sharp. The only problems was grip was bad and the sword would cut through the sheath. Rewraped the handle and sewn the sheath and customize it.
-14:00.. keep it, sanitize it, and use it as a roast slicer..and large vegetable slicer/chopper. No really-! I did that once..for a while, with a solid steel hatchet. It was awesome.! ..and for the reactions..for a while.
There are at least 3 relevant types of stainless steel when it comes to knives/swords. Austenitic (300 series) stainless steel is the standard stainless steel that people think of when they think of stainless steel. It is soft and it's only function is corrosion resistance. The other two, on the other hand, are martensitic stainless steels and precipitation hardened stainless steels. Both of these stainless steels are hardenable up to the level of a carbon or low alloy 'spring' steel. Unless I am mistaken, martensitic stainless steels are commonly used in the kitchen knives, and can maintain magnetic properties (unlike austenitic stainless steel). Therefore, like all materials, it is all about 'the right tool for the job'.
if a blade is made of stainless, use it like a large knife, not a sword. itll cut fine but if it were to catch armor or a blade with any true force it wont be smooth. the curve one is definitely something i would buy for hone defense. i hide melee weapons all round the house and once i get the guns to do so id to the same with pistols. that sword is going in the umbrella rack for door breakers to quickly have large gashes on their arms to the bone
Well, since "Tameshigiri" simply refers to the act of practice cutting to test the quality of a blade your question makes no sense. They are performing tameshigiri with pool noodles. Traditionally, but not by definition, tameshigiri is done with tatami. Shad and Tyranth live in Australia, where acquiring tatami is rather expensive.
You can get about a dozen large noodles for the price of a small tatami mat. Plus, I don't think they'd want to embarrass the sponsor testing them properly?
As an owner of a couple blades like this, yeah they're really only good as like an emergency machete or emergency self defense tool. If there's nothing else available they'll do well enough
6:53 - my observation : these two blades might be nice as potato cutters... I hve been given a gift knife when my parents returned from Spain and i did a rough sharpening grind on an electric grindstone... It wasn't pretty but the resulting serrations on the edges made it a good potato cutter for my use... It was purely a wall hanger before or a mantle piece with the crossguard being shaped into dragon head and feet on the blade side...
😂Yeah, sorry I've been busy the last couple of weeks I'm catching up on old vids now, I would love to see you go through some of those terrible overly-spiked not-a-sword objects
If you do another video about swords from movies/shows/anime, my request is for both Trunks' Sword and Janemba's Dimension Sword from Dragon Ball Z. At least one of them seems like a reasonable design 🥺
Oh dear God, not the BudK- I used to get a sword from them every birthday and Christmas. All of them broke, but also I was chopping trees down with them and beating logs to pieces with them. By far their most durable one was the Chinese Barbarian Sword. Huge, clunky, and could be considered more of a hunk of iron than a sword... nah, but it was actually a great beater sword (beater swords are sword like objects that are typically short and can typically handle abuse.) Edit: YES, the tactical wrap ALWAYS comes off of these. To remedy this, I always used electrical tape and wrapped it around a bunch. Sometimes I even made small wooden shims or scales and wrapped them with electrical tape after, honestly, not that bad of a handle. Is there hand shock- with the wooden shims, not so much. Without them is a whole other story.
Day 2 of asking: Could you do a video on different blunt training swords? I know Honshu has some, but I trust your wisdom as experienced people. Perhaps even just a run through of edge alignment and other basic things to make sure people don't earn Darwin Awards.
Petition to have a video where fans submit their own fantasy sword designs and you rate them.
Holy that's brilliant
Would live to see that!
That would be brilliant!
Plot twist; steel stick wins.
Yeah that's great idea
True story, mine works for its intended purpose. I just wanted something to stand on my dresser and look nice. But, when 2 people... "entered" my car and saw me running and yelling with it at 2am, well, I got most of the dropped stuff back and never saw them again.
Might wanna go get an M&P, lol.
In my country a guy saw on CCTV couple people stealing his bike, he took the elvator down, got when he got out he unsheathed a full length katana and chase the robbers... It was pretty effective. This is why I keep a boken and a shinai in my room, its not metal, but I'm sure no one would want to stick around to find out its bamboo lol
What is scarier, a cheap dull sword or an oar with the word "Ecchi" carved into it?
@@Wearywastrel Aha, a fellow yaoi paddle enjoyer
I mean, it's a sharp piece of metal. A sword doesn't have to be good to be deadly, especially in the modern age where people don't wear armour or have training for a sword fight.
5:05 that "shut up" came from the depths of shad's soul
12:45 for another expletive from deep in his soul (When Tyranth got the horizontal cut)
A tiemstamp is more useful when it's before what you're talking about instead of after: 5:00
@@Fyrefrye/bastard///// 😂
I petition that Little-Fang be fitted with a proper handle (or, at the very least, a nice leather-wrap) and be custom-designed into a proper short-sword! 😮😊
Maybe some messer style handle scales could be nice
@@Ilzhain Yes! Add this to my petition! You, good fellow, are a man after my own heart!
Personally, I'd love to watch Tyranth doing that then testing to see how much the black ronin is improved. Granted it's only stainless steel; but, it sounds like there was some tempering done to the blade from Shad's and Tyranth's remarks.
@@brettpresta-valachovic3631 I do believe you’re onto something, with this! 😊
*Mall Ninja Vs Chopping Mall*
Coming soon to a theater near you!
Still better than Concord 😂
@@BowsettesFury couldn’t agree more. ^-^
I wish a medieval fantasy game would have the starter sword as a cheaply made or less functional blade, with the upgrades being better made and more (functionally) extravagant.
I've never seen a fantasy game do that in a believable way - except maybe KCD, which isn't particularly "fantasy".
Skyrim kind of does this. Only kind of, and without the "functional" part of functionally extravagant. Skyrim swords are like big paddles but they do get more interesting looking designs as you get to higher tiers. I think it's the same problem that video game guns often have, the developers don't know anything about them except what they personally think looks cool. So you end up with stuff that looks moronic to anyone who knows even the basic principles of the topic. They just don't know what would look "extravagant" without actively hindering the weapon.
I remember a game called slasher's keep that kinda has that mechanic, where you can forge your own weapons from collected pieces and combine them as you go through the levels such as sword hilts and blades, or hammer head and shafts
Chrono Trigger (kinda medieval, it includes time travel) and Thousand Arms are just two of many games.
in minecraft the first weapon is a wooden sword, and 2nd best is diamond sword.
KCD is a very low fantasy game, but it is in fact fantasy. Magic potions are not real.
@@benjadryl_7393"itsyaboybrandyboy" has a series on the terrible designs of the fallout series guns that i quite enjoy
Did you know that every country in the world has ninjas?
We only hear about the ones from Japan because they're not as good at their job.
The ones in other countries are spying on those countries. Its actually that the ones in Japan are up against citizens who are better at countering a spy.
OUCH
well, many places use other names for them.
It's called a spy
@@scottishwarrior3547 That's what I said in my only viewable in Newest First comment.
That black ronin isn't half bad. Even as stainless steel it still held up rather well and considering how well it cut with minimal sharpening. I'd have no qualms owning one of those though I'd put a proper hilt on it. Another cool thing that could be done is put it on a pole or better yet, a half sized pole.
it actually does pretty good. I broke the spear head on one of those aweful M48 spears, and stuck a similar short sword from united cutlery on it the shaft instead. makes for a nice cobbled together short spear.
I have one of those, the straight one. It's not actually that bad in the hand. I have other cheap blades with paracord wraps and have used them to cut down bushes that at points were over an inch diameter and a tree that was about a 3 inch diameter, years ago they were $20 and iv put them through real use and they are just fine, still have them.
What a great idea! Shadversity needs to explore that idea. "Can a mall ninja weapon be turned into a working weapon?"
OMG the banter. love you guys. keep up the great work.
2:48 That's a 'choil'. There's 'finger choil', and 'sharpening choil'.
Edit: I'm a Londoner, I know. 🇬🇧
Kind of hard to sneak up on people like a ninja with that clacking armor. 😂
Shad is enrolled in the Elder Scrolls school of sneaking about. He's so sneaky he can just crouch walk up to you in the middle of the street and you'll never see him coming. After all, it was only the wind, right? 😂
It would have been funny to see him wear a mall ninja outfit for this video
Just need to roll a 20 on your move silently skill.
This is not the video I wanted. It was the video I needed. thanks
"Doesn't count" "Barstard" I've been through that too many times.
"Sword-Like Object" (SLO). I like it!
I bet, if you took the fang to a machine shop, drilled 2-3 holes in it, you could fashion an easy full tang handle for it
Yeah. Heck, I'd bet you could even use it for clearing land like a machete afterwards.
machine shop?
for drilling a few holes? seriously? do you own zero tools?
i could do that in any garage I've ever been in,including family and friends.
I was once a mall rebel but then I hit my 20s and searched for real information over magazine and MTV bs. As for blades and medieval stuff, I am staying in cosplay land with sharp blades being left to displays. As for gaming, that's where you guys come in.
No joke, I had one of those swords from the first segment, the chunky one with no curve. It was something my brother got in a mystery sword box. I brought it to Papua New Guinea and carried it around while I was on night watch. I lent it to someone and they took it home, lol.
I'm all up for seeing more mall ninja shenanigans.
This cuts me to the marrow. my honor is stained!
bring me my forehead protector.
(No, not the mouthguard. NO, not the rollerblading helmet either! You known the folding chair back I cut out with tin snips!. What? I didn't need THAT many stitches. Only 30. Ok, fine. 73. Bring it anyway!)
Waaaaay too specific.
@@731tridentthat's a guy with a lot of experience.
i'd love to see you guys make your own tacticool/mallninja weapons... you each make two... one to look cool and the other to function well... let's see what you guys come up with...
Hey Shad is there any Titan Sword updates in the near future? I can’t wait for it to finally come to fruition. It’s going to be AWESOME!
By Titan you mean the oversized swords? I believe Brother Shad has proven how dumb they are. If something else then I'm clueless.
@@anderporascu5026 The Titan sword is a project that Shad and Tryranth have doing on this channel for a long time now. The Titan sword project is them trying to make a functional giant sword by their own design. You should look you their videos on it. They’re some pretty good/fun videos.
@@anderporascu5026 they have an ongoing project to build a sword of ridiculous proportions out of mostly carbon fiber and kevlar. I think they are working with some materials science folks from a nearby university or some such.
@@anderporascu5026they are working on trying to make a functional giant sword using carbon fiber and other modern materials.
I fully admit I'm an owner of a $20 mall ninja Katana (that I've wanted since I was a kid) and I fully admit I *DID* swing it around my yard at night the day I bought it, just so I could finally feel what it's like to do so. Funnily enough, I have it sitting next to my mancave door and *every single male friend* I have *immediately* upon seeing it, picked it up, unsheathed it, and thought it was cool af lol.
I'll get a functional one someday but until then, my little nephews and nieces are confident I'm not only one of the coolest dudes on Earth, I'm a ninja of some kind too lol. 😃
No pretension, no shame, you're enjoying what you enjoy and understand exactly what it is. 👍
well, i bought a blunt show katana and bent it first day on a log. "Steel" was so soft, it bent like nothing. Good thing was, it was almost as easy to bend back. its now standing on my bedside in case someone wants to enter my flat un asked
You unironically have a mancave?
@@GlitchedUtopia Yeah I gotta "man cave" and it kicks ass.
What in the F makes you think I give a damn what you personally think of it? I love my toys and if you have a problem with it, you can go kick rocks Mr. I can't spell Utopia. 🙄
@@GlitchedUtopia You don't?
I broke/bent a mall Highlander sword(It was a Duncan model)once. The first little tiny sapling of a soft wood bent the blade to one side enough it was just goofy. I wasn't expecting much. Funny enough I sold it to a kid I worked with for 10 dollars more than I paid for it bend and all. ROFL.
I’m surprised you didn’t snap the straight one against the metal - Coming from someone who accidentally broke one in half as a kid
7:43 Shad "I'm conflicted" | Tyranth "Ok, you haven't cut anything yet" 😂
I had some money and decided to buy a bunch of cheap shit like those, what i found was 440c is basically the minimum for a swing around the yard sword or machete. Holds up like you found suprisingly well, that being said yes the longer ones are problem usually because shit welds at handle that snap. Still have a few actually XD
Hahaha, I love the Mall Ninja series! 😊 I have always loved shopping at BudK and simply avoiding the lesser gear, and I usually was getting more operable blades (mostly Honshu ones), but I was like, “You know: some of this wouldn’t be bad for Shad’s Mall-Ninja series!”, and then zoom! Here we are! 😂😊
Yay! Shad being a kid in a candy store for 20 minutes, while Tyranth is just done with his crap. LOL I mean mall ninja store! lol
I've been waiting for a video like this for a long time! I (like most of us) started out with Mall Ninja Crap and always wondered if any of it would sort of perform. Also, the dynamic between Shad and Tyranth is just pure gold xD
I love how these two guys just duke it out with one another..... Tyranth is the superior technicality striker.... hands down... so its fun to see their skill levels and collaborative decisions on things, Nice job as always Shadiversity
I have something I've been wondering. So, I have an old machete. I've had it since I was like 14. I'm 41 now. It was a military surplus thingy, and the steel is very good. But the plastic handle was rubbish and at some point it fell apart. So I taped it up with electrical tape. It's still with me, still with that same fallen-apart handle and the same electrical tape wrap, which is like 20 years old now. I've never had a grip that felt as good in my hand, in the entire 20-something years since then. It's still perfect. Just a simple machete with a plastic handle, wrapped in electrical tape, and I can chop branches as thick as my wrist with it in one hit. So I'd like you to try wrapping your handle, hilt, whatever with electrical tape and tell me what you think. Cheap, simple, low-overhead subject for a video.
More mall ninja is always appreciated.
@8:48 you've got a curved blade and got that rotational momentum working for you this time Shad. A lot of people underestimate power of rotational momentum - part of the bonus is it tends to have less "push away" effect on the target's center of gravity.
Very cool. Surprised me how well it did. Keep it up, Shad.
Jump up, kick back, whip around and spin! Ninja! Go! Ninja! Go! Do the weekend whip!
So for the grips on my sword I removed the terrible nylon rope grip and instead glued wooden planks , YES I know stay with me, I would have attached those grips differently but It's cheap and I don't really care for it enough so yeah, I glued on flat wood planks and made it look like the grip of a kriegsmesser and to my surprise the thicker grip actually helped a lot, if y'all decide to revisit these swords I would suggest this Idea
I bought one of these back around 1999, I took the wrap off, made wood handle scales and attached them with 3M double sided automotive tape. (The kind that holds on vehicle emblems and body trim)
Then I wrapped athletic grip tape around that.
Used that thing as a machete, and beat on it for well over a decade. Doesn't hold an edge like modern super steels, but overall held up and worked great!
Fun and effective bargain blade for sure!
Bought one (the one with the American tanto style tip) back in 1999. Sharpened it, made a more comfortable handle, and used it as a machete. Beat/ wailed on that thing like a maniac for well over a decade with great performance and success... before eventually learning from blade snobs that it's supposed to be junk. lol
I can tell you it worked great, was really fun to use! I also carried it across my back, which also worked fantastic!
I still have it, only found myself using it less once I started buying more expensive blades/toys, and making my own blades.
If you guys haven’t already it would fun to see you test out the Zombie Tools range of weapons.
Great content! Keep up the good work
You should test the curved one against a thick modern jacket and then a gambeson to see how well it fairs! These are obviously not made with the expectation of facing armor or other weapons, but since it did so well in the cutting might as well see how good it really is.
You've done lots of sword fight autopsies, but I would like to see you react to scenes of sword masters training and giving advice in movies and shows. I was watching Avatar: The Last Airbender and wondering what you'd think of the training the sword master (not sure how to spell his name) gives Sokka. Just an idea!
I would be interested to see how Little Fang ranks if it gets a proper grip. Maybe not worth a whole separate video, but an improved Little Fang cameo would be nice to see
My first sword was a Paul Chen Arming Sword all the way back in 2006. 2 years later, I got a Baltimore Knife & Sword Hand and a Half.
This is a fun video, very enjoyable. Also has Tyranth put on weight?
As for the "Good" one, I could see it being potentially useful as a Larger Filet Knife. Would have to carefully remove the coating, sharpen it, and improve the handle. But as a Filet Knife for Sea Bass/large fish, could work well.
12:48 shad saying bastard is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
I actually used to own one of those straight ones and I used it for cutting through light brush and it actually worked great for that. I even used it to protect myself from a stray dog that tried to attack me in the woods once. It was light and held a decent edge, not great but decent. I did do a lot of work to make the handle better though by putting some wooden scales on it. It would bend sometimes but it was always easy to straighten out. All in all for a disposable tool its not all that bad. I always had something better in my pack just in case, but I treated that one with a bit more respect than the one you are showing. Also, the one I had wasnt made from stainless, it was something else. Or at least I think thats the case. In my experience stainless is very difficult to straighten once bent but the one I had wasn't very difficult to straighten and it didnt get that discoloration that stainless gets when heated either. I used it as a fire poker after I stopped using it in the trail.
I once broke a rather expensive machete on a camping trip and bought a $17 gas station replacement for the week. It’s about 20in overall, with a matte black blade and actual cardboard sheath. after rewrapping the handle with some proper paracord and touching up the edge it’s become my go- to for backpacking and has taken more abuse than it has any right to.
those 36 dollar short swords by united cutlery are abit of fun if you got the tools to put a better handle on em. I had one I really liked the blade on but hated the wrap. So I took some left over walnut from a desk build and got my drill out and put my own handle on it instead of that stupid mall rope.
This episode reminds me of "The Thirteenth Warrior": "when you d1e, can I give that to me daughter?" 😁
Daughter, actually.
"Give an Arab a sword, he makes a knife."
@@Myomer104 Fixed - thanks!
14:50 "TUUDUUUUUUU" AoE ptsd of enemy swordsman attacking your town center 😂
Your face on the thumbnail though...😂
Been watching too many of these videos. I had a dream I visited Australia and tested swords with Shad. It was a good dream, but that's how I know I've been running these videos in the background too much while I work. lol
My first Sword was 100% a mall ninja sword. It was a square tsuba, straight, black blade Ninjato wall hanger.
Bought it on a school field trip back when you could buy wall hangers from souvenir shops in the UK (Which says how cheap of was since I could afford it with field trip money). Understandably got some grief off of the teachers when they found out.
My first one was from Ebay. Not really sharp but it was heavy. More useful as a club than a cutting weapon.
Finally, I’ve been waiting so long for this one
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12:39 Those Shad reactions are so good! 😄
Many years ago I had the same straight-bladed one that you have in this video, just because I thought it looked cool at the time, and never had any intention of finding a 'practical' application for it, but after extensive resharpening, I did find it useful for clearing brambles from the field where we kept our horses 😅. I did make some wood scales and re-wrapped the handle though, as the one it came with was utter dog crap (well, to be fair the entire blade is too, but as far as I'm concerned it was just a gardening tool 😁).
I've owned some j-2 stainless blades with good spring ng tempters to them. They came with a rat tail tang, and so I got rid of that and took my grinder and gave them a full tang. Truly good blades to this day and I cannot bend to break them, they always snap back into straight. I have torture tested them on a brinks home safe and hard woods back in the day, and they are still with me today. They started out as the no name brand of the strider ranger sword and the anduril that I got from eBay.
12:03
Tyranth’s laugh was so good
12:37
Nice throw Shad!
Ive haf the Tanto version of the Black Ronin for years. I've done some chopping with it and accidentally hit a nail in a board. No chips, minor glinting. Pretty good. There was a period of about a year or two when United Cutlery discontinued that particular design and relabled the other one as "black Ronin" but it didn't sell, so they brought back the original design.
@Shad 12:35 - 12:45 , Shad you're locking your wrist in the horizontal strikes, if you look at 12:45-ish you'll notice Tyranth is allowing his wrist to rotate at the last moment. This results in a significant blade speed increase, similar to the snap motion on a drop kick, or the end of a whip. It results in T- having two rational centers, one at the end and the other a multiplier, whereas the "from the shoulder" or "from the elbow" used by Shad has singular rotational point with no accelerating factor and a much further and clumsier striking motion that would need hydralic pressure levels of strength to get the same blade acceleration. It's not a difficult improvement to make once you've realised what it is.
I forgot my finger was on the screen and so it was playing at two times speed. I’m glad I forgot because watching Shad angrily swing at the pool noodle at two times speed was hilarious.
I remember someone who had that straightened black one. He drilled holes into it and riveted in some ergo wood grips he made. Oddly way better.
Hope yall do a vid on the Flamberge one day. I wanna see what that wavey sword can do
So... Have y'all done sword canes yet, and what are some things to look out for if I'm buying one?
Still have a couple mall ninja weapons, the knockoff highlander sword is hanging in the den and a few others turned out to be pretty handy for clearing briars on the edges of my property so they just kinda hang in the shed year round, then I saw the links in description were Budk which is where I bought them
Very funny Enterance Shad 😂
Well, that was fun! The curved thin one has a vibe of Mordor orcs blades as they are described in the 3-rd book of LOTR, IMHO.
Knowing that short swords have a lot of faults, I actually like the little fang too. Drill and pin a nice handle to it and it would be a fun little cutter that you wouldn't be upset about abusing or damaging.
I love these mall ninja videos 🎉
Personally, Mall Ninja weapons are those you'd... well, buy in a mall. The wall hanging katanas, the replica swords from fantasy games, etc.
My buddy bought a mall ninja double headed single hand "battle" axe 14 years ago. First thing he did was throw it at a tree, it stuck and the metal through tang handle literally exploded from the force. He paid 80$ for it 🤣 the blade and tang were fine so I bought it from him for 10$ and attached it to a wooden two handed axe handle and it served me good for years lol just as a play thing
Story time. Had the straight version ninja style a couple of years ago let's say it was my least favourite sword I'd tell people that it was nore of a large knife. Wanted a straight katana sort of thing and saw one at a camping shop.
Sharpened it to bring it to a decent edge really wanted it to be good so decided to reduce the length of the grip so that theres just room for one hand with a curve like a Chinese Dao and added weight at the grip for balance.
Burnt through 6 hacksaw blades, 6 hi-speed steel drill bits as well as two cobalt drill bits using oil and care to avoid damaging them in an attempt to install the additional steel on the grip.
Ended up taking it to a professional letting them know that whatever it is that they used to construct the grip is some insane steel, the guy was unable to accomplish the task and it has since become a failed project thats been left at the shop in the too hard basket for two years!
t-man got the big W on the horizontal cut
Right!? He got TWO. Shad said the first one didn't count and the T-man said "OK, I'll do it again."
T- man's cutting abilities seems to trigger shad a lot
@@CRu1687 Can you blame him? I'm jelly of Tyranth's skills as well, dude is a true martial artist.
I love ALL Shadiversity videos!!!! ❤
I'm thinking about taking a simple bar of mild from Home Depot, shaping it in a blade shape, and quenching it in used motor oil for the case hardening effect to see how good it would hold up.
The black Ronin, is a perfect option for what it is. A very cheap, easily replaced, beater blade that can cut well , take some reasonable abuse, and all it really needs is maybe some tennis tape to guve the handle more shape and cushion but for a short self defense blade or backpack camping fun blade its perfect
Hey Shad and Tyranth. I wonder if the fang (the Black Ronin) could be "modified" with a handguard, a pommel and a possibly better wooden grip, it could become a proper short sword of a dha variety. I wonder if you consider it. And possibly the other one, with the same modification and a proper sharpening. Have a nice time.
Am I the only person who wants to see Tyranth get another Black Ronin, give it a proper sharpening, and make some wood handle scales for it? I honestly think if he put a little effort into it he'd have a decent (not great) little blade.
It's honestly sad that malls don't sell cheap swords/weapons anymore...
My first sharp sword was a mall ninja sword my grandma got me on Christmas. It was also painted but the edge was not painted and it was really sharp. The only problems was grip was bad and the sword would cut through the sheath. Rewraped the handle and sewn the sheath and customize it.
-14:00.. keep it, sanitize it, and use it as a roast slicer..and large vegetable slicer/chopper. No really-! I did that once..for a while, with a solid steel hatchet. It was awesome.! ..and for the reactions..for a while.
Those feel more like wall-hangers than mall-ninja. When I think mall-ninja, I see impractical spikes on every possible spot, lol.
Shad, are you planning into come to Spain someday? I would like you to make a videos about our medieval buildings. Saludos!
There are at least 3 relevant types of stainless steel when it comes to knives/swords. Austenitic (300 series) stainless steel is the standard stainless steel that people think of when they think of stainless steel. It is soft and it's only function is corrosion resistance. The other two, on the other hand, are martensitic stainless steels and precipitation hardened stainless steels. Both of these stainless steels are hardenable up to the level of a carbon or low alloy 'spring' steel. Unless I am mistaken, martensitic stainless steels are commonly used in the kitchen knives, and can maintain magnetic properties (unlike austenitic stainless steel). Therefore, like all materials, it is all about 'the right tool for the job'.
Always entertaining, great intro!
Would be interesting to have images of the blade geometry in cross section for the sword being tested.
if a blade is made of stainless, use it like a large knife, not a sword. itll cut fine but if it were to catch armor or a blade with any true force it wont be smooth. the curve one is definitely something i would buy for hone defense. i hide melee weapons all round the house and once i get the guns to do so id to the same with pistols. that sword is going in the umbrella rack for door breakers to quickly have large gashes on their arms to the bone
Are pool noodles the new Tameshigiri stand in?
yes
Well, since "Tameshigiri" simply refers to the act of practice cutting to test the quality of a blade your question makes no sense. They are performing tameshigiri with pool noodles. Traditionally, but not by definition, tameshigiri is done with tatami. Shad and Tyranth live in Australia, where acquiring tatami is rather expensive.
You can get about a dozen large noodles for the price of a small tatami mat. Plus, I don't think they'd want to embarrass the sponsor testing them properly?
The next mall ninja weapons you need to test are that scorpion knife thing, and the arm blades!
As an owner of a couple blades like this, yeah they're really only good as like an emergency machete or emergency self defense tool. If there's nothing else available they'll do well enough
6:53 - my observation : these two blades might be nice as potato cutters... I hve been given a gift knife when my parents returned from Spain and i did a rough sharpening grind on an electric grindstone... It wasn't pretty but the resulting serrations on the edges made it a good potato cutter for my use... It was purely a wall hanger before or a mantle piece with the crossguard being shaped into dragon head and feet on the blade side...
Im a mall Ninja in picking up girls.......... which means I'm terrible at it, lol 😆 LOVE the video.
😂Yeah, sorry I've been busy the last couple of weeks I'm catching up on old vids now, I would love to see you go through some of those terrible overly-spiked not-a-sword objects
Just the best thumb nail ever.
If you do another video about swords from movies/shows/anime, my request is for both Trunks' Sword and Janemba's Dimension Sword from Dragon Ball Z. At least one of them seems like a reasonable design 🥺
Feels like you guys should make your own "Tacticool rap" music video.
Their pool noodle budget must be massive
You don't just dismiss the back scabbard...
Oh dear God, not the BudK- I used to get a sword from them every birthday and Christmas. All of them broke, but also I was chopping trees down with them and beating logs to pieces with them. By far their most durable one was the Chinese Barbarian Sword. Huge, clunky, and could be considered more of a hunk of iron than a sword... nah, but it was actually a great beater sword (beater swords are sword like objects that are typically short and can typically handle abuse.)
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YES, the tactical wrap ALWAYS comes off of these. To remedy this, I always used electrical tape and wrapped it around a bunch. Sometimes I even made small wooden shims or scales and wrapped them with electrical tape after, honestly, not that bad of a handle. Is there hand shock- with the wooden shims, not so much. Without them is a whole other story.
Day 2 of asking: Could you do a video on different blunt training swords? I know Honshu has some, but I trust your wisdom as experienced people. Perhaps even just a run through of edge alignment and other basic things to make sure people don't earn Darwin Awards.