The Story of OceanGate
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- OceanGate, Founded by Stockton Rush and Guillermo Söhnlein, was a company looking to bring you to the depth of the ocean. Starting with Antipodes, then Cylops 1, and finally Titan, the company used submersibles to conduct research on coral reefs and map shipwrecks. In 2021 they began using their first fully custom built submersible, complete with never before seen carbon fiber pressure chamber, to take mission specialists down to the Titanic for a whopping $250,000. However, the mission quickly went wrong. Imploding on its 1st dive of its 3rd season. Join me as we review the full story of OceanGate.
The Story of OceanGate
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All the cut corners aside, what's truly the most captivating and sad aspect of this is the utter insanity of Rush to continue operating the Titan at those depths even as he himself constantly experienced all the reported and documented failures on board before his final dive.
Mostly every dive on all subs had regular issues, usually multiple issues. He didn't care
@@ikajakonia8009wrong. He had a 3 strikes policy where they would cancel dives if 3 different things went wrong. That did happen, there were times 3 things went wrong and they called it after starting. There are multiple specific reported incidents where 1 or 2 significant things went wrong and they continued. There are too many examples for me to list here right now. Just bc the prior dives didn't implode yet did Not mean that their dives weren't regularly plagued with major issues. The fact you call "not imploding until you implode" a success shows you are just as inept as Stockton and ought not be taken seriously
@@ikajakonia8009ps. It's pretentious to refer to OP post as "your statement". And CF used was not taken off a boeing plane. CF is fused with epoxy which hardens it. Again you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
One of my favorite quotes is “when you see the world through rose colored glasses all the red flags just look like flags” (or something like that)
He may have overlooked tiny things that added up to something big.
I remember hearing Stockton Rush saying something like “it won’t matter because you’ll be dead so quickly” to a question about safety. He was fine with dying for his cause but that doesn’t mean others were. And it’s hard to read a waver you have to sign while the silver tongued CEO is constantly telling you that its “safer than flying in a helicopter”
He truly lucked out by dying because if he was alive to see this mess I believe he would have ended up offing himself seeing his company go down in ruins and the world seeing all his interviews downing safety.
But according to Rush, “it doesnt matter because he’s dead”. That’s pretty selfish. Ruin so many people’s lives and careers and not being able to give a shit about it. Leaving others to pick up the pieces of his greed.
His colleague Karl Stanley thinks he always knew he’d go out the way he did and didn’t care
I love how the internet already gave Stockton Rush the collective nickname "Captain Crunch"
Too soon?
Mr snap crackle and pop?
@@Radiata_Lionfish A little
oceangrave
@@Ebstarrunnerno, not too soon. he would be convicted of manslaughter from his negligence if he didn't kill himself too
Rush was the perfect name for the smug fool,he rushed everything, cutting corners along the way
"The OceanGate Titanic experience. There's truly nothing else like it!" Well, one must admit that the advertisement sales pitch was honest. I mean, how often does someone get a chance to implode themselves?
To use a material that’s better suited for tension stress instead of a material that’s better used for compression stress, you basically ask for trouble.
The deep sea exploration industry is a relatively small industry with very passionate and knowledgeable people.
Stockton Rush prided himself of having challenged this group of what he believed to be traditionalists. Stockton Rush considered it innovative to build a deep sea exploration vessel from a material the rest of this community warned him against using.
Unfortunately, in this field of exploration, you’re pretty much dead if you’re wrong, and Stockton Rush proved to be as wrong as possible.
You have a way with words! Bravo!
If you watch interviews he's obviously just like carbon fiber=*STRONG* to the point of obsessive. It's the reason so many plastic doo-dads have fake carbon fiber prints on them...cuz it's tough and it is. In one direction. As you obviously are aware. It's a little nuts. Honestly I think the metal tube, being a tube, and the resin itself were pretty much the only reason it didn't implode on attempt #1, which speaks more for the resin manufacturer and...the tube, more than Mr Rush.
@@DoublePlus-Ungood there was a scale model test of a complete carbon fiber submersible that Rush watched. The endcaps imploded before it even hit the pressure they were supposed to go to.
How can they advertise it's safe but then on waiver say it's not. This makes waiver not hold up. "Dont worry it's safe, we just have to say all that"
"If you engineer and build a bridge that collapses, you'd better be under it when it does"
Rush was. And now he doesn't have to answer for 4 deaths that are near entirely his fault.
Funny how his retrofitting of antipodes caused major safety issues. He added battery packs to it then ended up filling with water and causing it to descend too quickly. They had to shut down his use of antipodes bc his retrofits made it too unsafe (unable to surface with extra weight brought on by his attachments filling with water)
your right
This was a great recap! The only part you forgot was when the media reported banging sounds on day 3 which fueled hope.
If the Coast Guard realized it imploded on Sunday, June 18, this would not have been the major story we’ve come to know . The idea that 5 men were trapped in a sealed tube below the water and running out of oxygen caused massive press interest.
That's like driving on highway without seatbelt cause u don't need it until u do
Small correction, the 23,000 pound submersible is not equivalent to 21 tons. 19:40
Actually, everything in that opening promo was true except the "safely" part. They did dive to Titanic, they were made a part of history, and Oceangate is 100% the only place to get this once in a lifetime experience. All in all, they weren't lying😂
When you try to dive 4000 meter deep with one dollar store equipment in an untested build to be cheap. You get the experience.........
“The opportunity to BECOME HIstory” 0:22
Like San Francisco, Rush went downhill fast.
I saw a breakdown of the Alvin. In contrast, this is like a pinewood derby car made without dad’s help.
"Sorry, our CEO can't come to the phone right now. He's under a lot of pressure at the moment".
I'm sorry, but Stockon takes the cake on Stupidity. The fact that he didn't care about safety makes him a psychopath. Only killers have that mentality. The fact that he had people sign their death certificate and had teenagers making the sub is horrible. The fact that he didn't care about safety makes him a psychopath. And the winner of utter stupidity.
Excactly
Someone must not give up for the ocean gate CEO' s legacy of coffin design for deep sea coffin.
Well the once in a lifetime statement was correct.
Whats the deal with the use of a game controller? The military has been using xbox controllers for drones 15, 20 years?
Bc it was wireless
If the ocean didn't take Rush, the Justice Department would.
@@JimRex-vv4qsThe parent company he was a CEO of is american, so they would have gotten him somehow. There is loads of evidence he was trying to dodge any existing American regulations on the seas.
“Don’t miss the opportunity to be a part of history” that in itself is a red flag for me
Everyone likes to focus on the game controller....military uses this stuff in their applications and isn't a big deal. This RTM system however tells you there are issues 5 mins before the hull fails was just a waste of time and money. How he thought the RTM system was a good reliable system is just reckless. Dude didn't even "bake" the carbon fiber to cure it to help remove imperfections. I thought carbon fiber got its strength from being woven not laid in strips but that might not be as important due to the hull compressing not expanding. Crazy some would pay 250k per person to climb into a hole, be bolted inside, rely on a looking glass only rated to half the depth and rely on a glued experimental hull design. You couldn't have paid me 250k to do it.....noooooo ty.
Yes military uses controls based on game controllers. But these are still specialised equipment that went through rigorous testing. The military and navy aren't going out there and just buying any common Logictech video game controller off your local store shelf like OceanGate supposedly did.
One is much more reliable than the other.
I think that's the point people are trying to make. Not that it's video game styled controls, but that Rush was literally using a video game controller.
@@justinlynch3 But the controller never was a critical item. It is just for fun, to move the sub around when having reached the target (Titanic).
To just go up to the surface, the controller would not be required.
@@justinlynch3 There is a huge difference between having a game controller with the redundancy of physical controls if the wireless controller fails. Or simply fully relying on a wireless game controller without any redundancy when the bluetooth or wifi fails.
IT WAS TO HEAVY. SOMEONE MISCALCULATED THE WEIGHT. They were %80 throught their decent in just %40 of the time. It takes two and a half hours for the decent. They were almost there in just an hour and a half. After crackling sounds at the aft, they decided to abort and drop ballast however, after ballast and the sled was dropped, it was only ascending at 3 mph. You can walk faster. The sub was at crush depth when the RTM was all RED, and could not ascend out of the area fast enough. Its possible they slammed into the ocean floor also seeing how they were ascending to fast. Its said at one point the sub went horizontal l, throwing all the passengers on top of eachother on the window end.
I think it might have been due to the one man's son because from what I have heard and read the ticket was originally for his wife.
3mph would mean they surfaced faster than an hour.
If it's 2-1/2 mil down.
@wispa1a 3 Mph was a guesstimate. In 15 minutes they hsd only traveled 60ft or so. Everything is in meters so Im not sure the actual distance traveled. It wasn't fast enough thats for sure. Either they took on water or someone on the boat miscalculated the weight. I think it was because the Wife was originally supposed to rltake the dive however, gave her seat to her son at the last minute.
@@georgekandalepas404
Miscalculated weight?
Naaa someone told lies .
Also could have been trapped by a net.
Lots of could be(s)
I don't think there neeeds to be more regulations. There are existing regulations, which they dodged, for example by calling their passangers mission specialists. It has to be exposed, that they where lieing, and avoiding regulations, and they must be punished for it, and thats that.
they take "be part of the history" too literally......
Thank you for this excellent video which is 100% factual and leaves out all of the vicious accusations against the late Stockton Rush. I also appreciate his desire to show the world what’s beneath the waves. It takes a LOT of wherewithal to actually build a manned submersible. I’m not saying his design is one to admire - but an investigation will find out exactly where the point of failure was. At least 4 of the men on that sub loved to explore and gave their lives doing what they loved.
What bullshit. They didn't give their lives for a particular love of the deep. Their lives were taken from them by calculating, cynical conman.
oh wow.. just what I needed.. another Oceangate video..
Well put together with nice editing and narration. SUB'D
when it comes to safety, it doesn't matter about what colour they are, but how many times they survived going below the ocean and lived to tell.
They do use certain colors... marine subs are dark for not being seen... tourist subs are generally white or yellow for visual reasons under the water
Glass bottom boats are good enough for me.😊
stockton CRUSHED 😂
I see what ya did there 😂. Your going to hell……. In a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine🎶
@@firewalker1372 hopefully its not made of carbon fiber 🤣
Well played.
We all know the ending unfortunately.
It sure was once in a lifetime...
Today is the *1* year anniversary of when "The Story of OceanGate" was uploaded! The company is out of business but it's technically still in operation due to active investigations. I wouldn't be surprised if they got sued before they fully shut down. 😒
12:28 Unsinkable? More like uncrushable. I do get the point and that this false statement ironically was the hubris that would play a significant role in both disasters, but unsinkable seems to not be a good term in terms of a submarine. Basically, submarines and submersibles are meant to be sunk and travel underwater. So if it was unsinkable, it would just be a cylindrical boat, but thanks to the resulting implosions, uncrushable would be a better false claim.
MATT DAMON AS STOCKTON RUSH...
I was thinking bimbo Brad Pitt from "Burn after reading" ...
One word . Hubris.
Wow! (Cough, cough) never heard that one.
One thing is for sure, the OceanGate infomercial and many of Stockton’s comments about thinking outside the box and breaking the rules did not age well!
Most accidents are preventable.
Did he just say “GLUED”?
I can’t believe he thought glue can withstand that much pressure.
A carbon fiber sub, so innovative. What will they do nex….. wait. Back to the drawing board boys. And the military isn’t buying gaming controllers on amazon to operate their drones 😂 🤣. I keep hearing that in every one of these videos. Yeah, some of their equipment is operated via controller…. A controller that costs them thousands of dollars to build.
maybe those solar subs kamala was talking about will be next?
exactly there’s no way military will use off the shelf stuff
They are only used for periscopes
They don't drive it with controller. They've used it for periscopes and things like that
The controller wasn't really an issue. He said they had backup controllers on board. Controlling the sub is the easy part of everything anyway.
They made more substantial mistakes than using a cheap controller, even in the control part. One time the external propellors were mis-wired and the controls were crossed, like it went left when moving the stick forward.
My guess is that the Titan's viewport blew in. It was certified to a pressure of only 1,300 meters below sea level. Sea water then shot in, compressing the air and all five passengers into a tiny area in the opposite titanium cap which remained intact. I assume that this is the location where "presumed human remains" have been recovered. At the same time the extreme and rapid compression of air into that titanium cap would cause tremendous heat. After that the carbon fiber hull would explode. The result would be one titanium cap without the viewport, one cap with about a half ton of compressed, cooked human mush in it, the landing frame, the outer metal hull which had that fin shape and thousands of tiny carbon fiber shards scattered on the sea floor, which I believe is what has been found.
All the metal parts of the sub have been publicly displayed except that rear cap for understandable reasons. The landing frame appears to be intact and straight. An implosion of the carbon fiber hull would have pulled the titanium caps inward and bent the landing frame. An implosion of the carbon fiber hull would have chopped the passengers into countless tiny shreds which could not be recovered.
In a TH-cam video with Mexican actor Alan Estrada Rush explained regarding the viewport: “It's acrylic - plexiglass. It is seven inches thick and weighs about 80lbs. And when we go to the Titanic, it will squeeze in about three-quarters of an inch and just deforms. And acrylic is great because before it cracks or fails, it starts to crackle so you get a huge warning if it's going to fail.”
Rush talked a 19 year old boy into entering this death trap and charged him $250,000 for the “privilege”.
The reason the landing frame is intact is that it was jettisoned shortly before the implosion. So it fell to the bottom independently.
The sub was descending too quickly, and ballast including the frame was jettisoned to get it back to the surface, which happened only slowly.
So it looks like there had been a leak somewhere, if not in the main cabin then in some externally mounted component.
Of course it could still be that in parallel to all that trouble, the viewport failed. But it can just as well be that it failed when the hull collapsed and suddenly the inward pressure turned around into outward pressure from compression of the air inside the sub.
@@Rob2 Are you referring to the "transcript" that came out online? Because I think that has been debunked. Looking at all the diagrams I can find of the landing frame, I can't see anyway it could be blown off. They could only drop ballast.
@@JacobStein1960 Well, aside from the transcript, one thing is for sure: they could drop the landing frame.
@@Rob2 Are you sure? I’m really surprised. Of course they could drop the ballast (although I heard that even that was once a problem) but I’m surprised that there was a mechanism to get rid of the landing frame. How much would that even help? And generally the Titan was built with a philosophy of being as cheap as possible. They didn’t seem to spend an extra penny.
@@JacobStein1960 It was one of the "7 redundant methods" that Rush boasted for the safety of his sub
Oceanbait is what they should of called it. 😢
Damn!
Arrogance and carelessness caused the Titanic to sink, Arrogance and carelessness caused the Titan to sink.
You're the first one that didn't mention all the corners cut by Rush/OceanGate.... While this was a great video, and I enjoyed watching, it's weird that you're pretty much making a puff story and minimizing his horrible decisions honestly.....
He’s just being non biased and just telling the story, I actually appreciate it instead of all the other typical videos, I realize rush is in the wrong but you have to admit that it’s pretty crazy how a simple craft made it that far that many times, when military grade craft can’t even go to that depth in the first place
Man this is being more milked than Peter North
I got that reference. I think Stockton was the bigger di*k.
Rumor has it they're still searching for the sub they knew imploded on Day 1
@@JimRex-vv4qs So why did James Cameron and others know on Monday?
@@JimRex-vv4qs The navy did not know, but the people on the support ship knew. They had a microphone as well, and being just above the sub they could hear it more easily than the Navy with their ocean-covering microphone network.
@@tk20channel they didnt KNOW, but they had a good idea what happened. yes the navy heard the implosion but they didnt know what it was then and didnt just want to give up hope they were lost.
@@tk20channel Cameron didn't know in Monday. He took an educated guess given the info provided. And he was confident of that guess to say he knew.
We've learned alot about Oceangate, Stockton Rush and how Titan was manufactured since the implosion. With the knowledge that we now have, I certainly wouldn't pay a dime to go down in that submersible. The question is, if the people that went down on this last dive, knowing what we all know now, in regards to how it was made, and the arrogance of Stockton Rush, do you think they would still go? Unfortunately we'll never know.
A case study
Antepodes is currently for sale for $759.000
No it paid passenger not crew not on the pay roll? So it class as a paid passenger and they got dam right to take them to court 👍👍 what ocean Gate? Gate are open now
Yo Rip but they was dumb for going in that tthing fr
...and this year's Darwin Award goes to....
One might say RIP, but there certainly was no peace in their passing but a shocking terrifying tragedy.
And if there is an afterlife, and accountability to God for our lives, there is anything but a - "rest in peace".
Life is fragile and fleeting at the best of times. Reckless adventurism displayed here somehow seems to be arrogantly snubbing the nose at these very real possibilities. Such a deep and profound tragedy.
Someone wisely said:
"Behold, you have made my days a few handbreadths, and my lifetime is as nothing before you. Surely all mankind stands as a mere breath!"
Another:
"Those of low estate are but a breath; those of high estate are a delusion; in the balances they go up; they are together lighter than a breath."
Somehow the fact that billionaires allowed themselves to be bolted into a dubious carbon fibre coffin for some kind of ethereal bragging rights, is more than tragic - it is a life lesson for us.
Just about right off the bat you stated what an Innovative company this was.
SUBstitute "innovative" with cheap
If 1000 Ways to Die was still on air world call this death Stockton Rushed It
Why anyone beloved these people is amazing. Carbon fiber sub. Nope.
Dude come on.... they weren't "handles" from camping world they were lights. There is an often shown video of Stockton saying just that.
yea it's annoying, a light going would be the least of your problems.
Farewell and adieu to the real world 😂
Farewell and adieu, you rush CEO
For you have received orders for to dive back to titanic
And so nevermore shall we see you again lol 😂
youtube recommended this to me
Thousands of videos about this repeating all
The same information 😂
Next expedition or last expedition?
_A Rush from OceanGate to the PearlyGate...._
Oceangate Expendables
"once in a lifetime" is right
Just out of curiosity: The guy responsible is already dead so who's going to be the fall guy here?
I somehow doubt that use of game controllers is common practice in military applications. For prototyping, sure.
wired yes and for drones, periscopes, cameras. they also have standard backup control systems that are as independent as possible so one control system going out doesn't affect the others.
Wireless is a deathtrap and there was no backup control systems on the Titan. A number of dives were canceled due to the wireless game controller system not functioning. The decision to use a 30 dollar game controller cost them millions of dollars in revenue.
If I was ridiculously wealthy and owned a company with sufficient technology to bring the Titanic back to the surface and repair it, could I claim the Titanic under Salvage law? I mean it is in international waters and the original owners are dead, so could I simply claim it for my own? Imagine James Cameron diving down to get another look at it, only to find the entire ship is just gone.
@@jamesw.6931 I am well aware that the Titanic can't be saved and if I were rich enough, I could just recreate the Titanic if I cared enough. This is more of a hypothetical situation where my company develops a way to make it possible for some reason.
Theoretically u can, but can’t bring it to USA though. In USA any artifacts from titanic belongs to some company
He was so charismatic he could sell you anything
He had a charisma of a wet paper napkin
Ocean gate meets heavens gate
I wouldn't call oceangate "innovative"
Nor that used car salesman charismatic.
Alot of the noise was me pinching a loaf on my own sub the el dukie’
I heard a rumor that they had sent a message saying that they wanted to resurface.
/watch?v=4Dj8IJbP41c&t=795s&ab_channel=jeffostroff
messages between sub and mothership and some analysis
Rush is still making fatal mistake even at the last hour in his life
How did they send it? Through paper notes? I mean a gaming controller what the fuck?
@@anneblubaugh58 sound like u dont know much about the Titan except the game controller.....
OceanGate: Heaven's Gate but underwater
The same basic problem as Damascus steel.
Stop trying to boost your channel off of an incident.
南無阿彌陀佛🙏
Hubris++
I guess a lot of engineering literature have to be re-written after this incident. Most engineers think the strength of carbon can hold to everything and now it seems the material just failed even before the u-boat came down to the depth of Titanik. I dont think it is true that Rush Stockton had no respect for safety. He has been a test pilot for jet fighter so do doubt safety awarness must have been in his dna. It most have been a horrible experience to be trapped in that small chamber and suddenly it started to deflect and pressed them. Peehaps their lungs and stomac was pressed out it must have been a horrific view when it happed.
No it's used for tensile strength and weight to strength for how much it weighs to can hold...not to pressure resistance there's a difference...it's awesome for what it's ment for
@@colinsunday9149 I wonder if the uboat had been slammed against the launch barge due to wave movements during transport etc. it could have damaged the hull and that was the reason it cracked open when the submarine came down where the water is much more heavy that at the surface.
No, engineers know not to use it on deep sea submersibles. He thumbed his nose up and dismissed engineering standards
Also it was instantaneous
Why re-write what was already known. That is why OceanGate received numerous warnings.
Don't waste your time. Better info out there.
Viral video soon?
Such an honorable family lineage...then along comes this goober trying to be the Elon Musk of the ocean and got himself and 4 other people killed. Bet this not how your ego pictured it huh Stocko?
Anyone who would pay $250,000 to go on this tour must have brain damage....I don't care how wealthy one is, it's totally insane.$250,000 to die.Can we say cray cray?
Cash grab, negligence to the Nth degree. Ka-ching
Innovative company?
yes only a few successful dives out of 90 planned. most dives were canceled because parts were damaged or knocked off by the Rush innovation of towing the submersible instead of having it on the deck of a support ship. than you have the wireless controller system failing to start up.
@@toomanyaccounts I guess you could say that Rush inovadead.
innovative company?, yeah nah it wasn't
Oceangate is gone, bankrupted
You play stupid games. Your win, stupid prizes
Honestly, I understand the hubris of Rush. I don't understand why he'd try to go used car salesman on paying passengers when a better person would know he's working with a downright awful platform. What I really, really dont understand is why people paid to go down there in the first place. If i was a paying passenger with the means to spend 250k on a trip...well I'd do my due diligence. Before I'd even get to that stage, well the history has already been made. Bob Ballard did it in 1985. I've gotten better views of Titanic on my computer than they'd get down there. I'd better understand the decision making and risks taken if it was a new wreck never before seen/discovered. I dont mean to speak ill of the dead but they overpaid for an experience that's recreatable with any smartphone or computer AND failed to do their due diligence assuming the experience was that important to them. The small, niche market place should have put Stockton Rush out of business before he ever started. Especially with a customer base that should be sophisticated enough to figure that out on their own.
Sorry for my lengthy response. I do understand if u don’t read my whole response. If u do, I am certainly grateful:)
I agree with you. Why pay $250,000 for something you can get better, clearer views of on your iPhone or laptop? The only thing I can think of is when you’re actually down there at the wreckage site (assuming the vessel you’re in is going to keep you safe), one thing that you don’t get to see on land on your iPhone or laptop is the ginormous size and immensity of the Titanic as she is in real life and being so up close and personal with the most famous shipwreck in world history is, probably to these guys, a uniquely different experience than looking at the wreckage (1/100,000 of its actual size) on one’s iPhone or laptop.
The other thing is that to billionaires like Dawood and Hamish Harding, $250,000 is a drop in the bucket to them. It’s like a person making $60,000 a year paying $150 to go see their favorite band play their last ever show. They normally wouldn’t pay that much for a concert ticket, but this is a very special concert to that person (who is a lifetime fan of that band) to where even though $150 is getting a bit “pricey” for the guy that makes $60,000 a year, for THIS particular occasion, he doesn’t mind spending the extra $50 - $75 he normally wouldn’t spend on a concert ticket. So I think that was another reason these billionaires chose to go down.
Cost was no issue for them whatsoever.
And probably the biggest reason these billionaires (and millionaire, PH Nargeolet) went down in spite of knowing there were concerns about Titan’s safety is that these “extreme explorers” like Hamish, PH, and to an extent, Stockton himself, had this perception of themselves as being invincible when it came to doing these risky extreme adventures, as they managed to survive every single previous “extreme journey” that they went on to the top of Mt. Everest, into outer space, on previous numerous dives to the Titanic, on journeys to the geographic South Pole, and what have you.
They survived them all. And here they are getting ready to do their umpteenth dive down to the Titanic wreckage in an industry that has literally not suffered more than 2 or 3 casualties since the submersible industry began in the 1950s or early 1960s, and with zero deaths being caused by a catastrophic hull failure. We tend to form a perception of our degree of safety based on how successful we’ve been previously at escaping any harm or peril on our previous excursions to that same place. The more trips we took where we returned “in one piece” without harm being done to us, the stronger our sense of safety would be for our NEXT scheduled excursion to that same Uber-remote location.
Lastly, of course, we can’t ignore the effect of Stockton’s “Salesman of the Month” charisma on persuading these gentleman (with that overly confident grin of his), that if the darn vessel wasn’t safe, why would Stockton himself be going down, too??
@rickbrenner6079 all good and fair points. My only thought would be...ok if it's that important to you to see in person that's fine...but you have to do your due diligence. I am by no means trying to be hateful of the dead like some people out their who hate billionaires for being billionaires. Or trying to lessen the culpability of rush who really should take the bulk of the blame here. But I have been lucky enough to know a few very successful businessmen. All have been very ethical and good people...but if for instance they need to have a surgery done....they do an incredible amount of research to make sure it's with the right doctor and to know the success rate of the procedure itself. Given that there was that father/son who were able to research this and say no to this trip, and that they all had the means to research the risk reward here, i do think that they should have made a wiser decision.
sad
There will be more of these explorations in the future.Time to regulate this Industry or there will be more losses of life.Fines, repossessions and lawsuits are required for further progress.This is just the beginning of a new era not the end.
It is regulated. He went to international waters to skirt regulations
These explorations have been going on for 60 years and there has never been a death. Stockton chose not to follow laws and rules
He had so much money why didnt he putit togood causes the titanic is an erie grave he was very arogant and his sub was unsafe.
He didn't have that much money. Oceangate was deep in debt. There is a reason why others who have submersibles that can go that deep charge a million per person or 15-19 million to do an expedition to the Titanic.
Innovative? 😂😂😂no
he did invented a fastest coffin to end someone lives
OceanGate now could provide suicide service, this is very persausive
@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7mthat's one of reasons one of passengers wanted to go on. He was depressed old widower and said if it went it would be the best way to go (instantly)
🎪🎭By saying that this craft imploded, it keeps us from asking any questions about the bodies or if there were any bodies...I havent seen ONE video or image of Those five men boarding That craft...Show us that they got on that craft!!...I dont believe they did...js
I relate to rush with his anti regulation stance. I also feel the same way. Too many people want to put their hands in the pot to get some 💰 and it does stifle innovation. But the carbon fiber idea was just DUMB. That being said, I pray this doesn’t make it become near impossible to explore the depths of the ocean. No outside entity should have the authority to prevent you from exploring the free world.
May they all rest in peace....all the pieces.
You mean the human puree?
How does being stuck in a tin can at the bottom of the ocean give anyone “access to vast untapped resources”
it doesn't. you need rovs to extract or underwater facilities. research is being done on how to access those resources but so far the costs outweigh the benefits. no company was interested in Oceangate.
Everyone is dumping on Rush but he had enough faith in it to but his life on the l8ne as well. Titanic tours seems like a smart idea but you cant be cheap. He believed in himself and his design enough to do it himself so idk its a horrible situation
He only wanted to do tours to make enough money to then make and sell subs for off shore oil drilling companies
Am sure that after this many people will think again and again about making this trip as passenger/tourist. It's a shame that he did not wanted to listen to the advices. Because the submersible was pretty cute to the eye and could take more passengers. If he would have listen, he would have been one to look out for. But I hope he serve as a lesson for all future submesible owners to listen to advices and never look at the money that can not buy life. I also advice to make it a regulation that all passengers do a medical test to see if their heart is in shape to resist the trip. ( medical certificate) Even so 🤔....to me it's a heck no way. Bottom line, he made a fatal mistake that must be taken as a lesson that brings PLENTY of regulations with it. Like: 21+ only, medical proof that certify that at the moment of take off your heart is strong enough. Are advices, take them please??? Greetings from Rose here in Netherland EU🫡
it can be done safely. the problem is you need like 50 million to do both the submersible and support ship. than spend a million dollars to cover the support ship costs for a week. this is why the Russians charged a million dollars a person when they running expeditions on the Mir submersibles when James Cameron was filming Titanic and tended to charge 15-20 million for private expeditions to the Titanic.