In this amazing special, we see all the surviving Classic Doctors and most all of the companions, we see the 6th Doctor and the Brigadier on screen for the only time ever, we see Liz Shaw rush the Rani to save the 3rd Doctor!! This special is like a theme park live action show, don't ruin it by asking questions on whether it's good or not, just watch the awesome!
Despite the "uneveness"" of this special. It is just soo good to see what was to be the last appearence of many of these performers as their Doctor Who incarantions. I wish somehow some of the footage could be used in an offical adventure.
Thus far, it’s proven itself to be the last official performances of Jon Pertwee as The Third Doctor Deborah Watling As Victoria Waterfield Caroline John As Liz Shaw And Kate O’Mara As The Rani
5:00 im more concerned this scene doesn't make sense since the doctors granddaughter is a timelord herself and some how she she doesn't recognise her own grandfather or the fact that timelords can regenerate considering she already met the doctors future selves in "the five doctors" episode ?? 🤷🏾♂
Remember watching this at 7 years old wishing that they'd bring back Doctor who for the 50th anniversary, my dreams were made true, thankfully the standard is much better these days.
Diamond Song Yeah, to make the Pulfrich effect work, everything has to be in motion. Therefore everyone was constantly running or was standing in front of some ridiculously colourful and spinning background and why there are flying heads. xD
It was part of a 3D experiment.. had to keep the camera moving to create the effect.. the best line .. "well I've seen them thrown out of The Vic......"..cheers
The Rani's assistant Cyrian is played by Samuel West, who played King Caspian of Narnia in the T.V. version of "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" and Victor Frankenstein in the movie "Van Helsing."
This one makes me think... I can't wait to see what that have planed for the 50th anniversary doctor who, just to see how many of the past doctors will be in it. Hope to see Tom Baker and Peter Davison
Probably THE ONLY special i wish was available on home media (whether it's here in the states or over there in the uk) also, I hope they make a sequel of sorts to this someday. Could you imagine doctors four, five,six, seven, eight,ten, eleven, thirteen, and even the fifteenth doctor appearing on the small screen together for the first time along with their respective companions? (Although thinking about it now I'm not sure if christopher eccelston or peter capaldi would want to return as doctors nine and twelve......but,hey a fan can dream can't he?)
Oh, the documentary is real enough, and a lot of Classic Series fans are looking forward to that more than to the actual 50th anniversary show. Having said that, it would indeed be cool to have David Bradley turn up on the show as the First Doctor!
that's what I thought, but I know in the Five Doctor's special Susan only refer's to the 1st Doctor as Grandfather and doesn't call 5th, 3rd or 2nd Doctor's grandfather, she refers to them as Doctor like any other companion would
Shows with less than perfect FX, yes, because the fans are drawn in by the writing and the performances, thus obviating the daft notion that such shows are taken off T.V. for a stretch of decades until they can "do it better." No, I heard the truth, as you can hear it from the lips of JNT, Sylv, and Sophie if you watch "More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS," available on disc 3 of the 3-DVD set of "Shada." There's also the special "Endgame" on the DVD of "Survival."
From what I can remember the 3D effect was pretty good. Unfortunately you literally have to have one of the original pairs of 3D glasses to make it work because they weren't the typical red and green 3D glasses
Camille Coduri's credits didn't include this, so, no, the woman at 4:27 didn't play Rosé Tyler's mum. Jackie Tyler was evidently a caricature of a specific type in London, though
Actually it is. This wouldn't show up in her credits because this wasn't "Doctor Who" this was a cross over with a show called "EastEnders" So, Camile Coduri's credit for "EastEnders" counts as this. Thought she's playing a completely different character. But headcanon's and all that.
I think the main reason the BBC did this was because they had some new tech they wanted to play with. I remember that this was filmed in 3D and you got the specs as a free gift in that week's Radio Times. The swirling camera action was to take advantage of the added depth that movement in a certain direction gave the film. This is what happens when effects and tech have a priority over script and acting.
I myself acknowledged that the BBC never dug too terribly deep into its pocket; it shows in other programs they put on, sci-fi examples of which include "Blake's 7" and "Red Dwarf." This did not stop those shows from having cult followings just like DW. You are the one trollishly insisting upon something that simply is not true. DW was not on hiatus when "Dimensions in Time" was made. It had been canceled, axed, given the boot, and chucked.
As a long time who fan, that was painful to watch back then. Its not better now, such a great chance wasted. Great to see people who aren't with us anymore. It always good to watch and realise how much the BBC didn't care about doctor who back then. Its terrible but I can't help watching it once in a while. So bad it might be good
"It's laughable and other movies and shows are making us look worse than a puppet show." That could be construed as an attack. I didn't say anything that the folks at DW haven't said; I also said many of them were very innovative. A lot of them were impressive when you take into account the budget, or lack of. I advise you to find the three-DVD set of "Shada." It contains the special "More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS," in which Sylv and Sophie share their memories of the cancellation.
Trust me, nobody would care, and a hand-waving explanation would be more than satisfactory. I mean, folks looked at Pat Troughton's grey hair in "The Two Doctors" and just shrugged. Now, they could have the Doctor visit realities where his counterparts never regenerated. As for digital rejuventation, I don't know if even the FX department as it is now could afford to do that.
I never attacked the original series. What I meant was it's been said the decision was made to "rest" the show until it could be done with good special effects on their budget (like other productions were being done with). Notice when it got to the point even people with home computers could do videos with really good special effects that DW returned? (Which was an excellent choice on the part of the Beeb.) As for the writing... I dunno. I take what I can get. I like Doctor Who.
I remember that too, To experience the depth effect, get yourself a cheap pair of sunglasses, pop out one of the lenses and wear them whilst watching this.
It was the original series with its expert writing and superlative performances that kept the fans watching for twenty-six years. The effects were, in many cases, very innovative, and fans did not obsess over them. I was referring to the classic series, obviously. As for the new series, there have been things less than 100% effective; the Raxacoricofallapatorians, for instance. But there's an inversion now: great effects and lousy writing.
I would love for this to be released on DVD. I would like real time, death comes to time and shada (animated version) to be released on DVD. also I would like for the crusade episodes 2 and 4 animated for a DVD release, mission to the unknown the whole episode animated and episode 3 of the web of fear with animation. hopefully the underwater menace in going to be released this year to.... the BBC said they would with episodes 1 and 4 animated. fingers crossed.
I meant "even the current series"? Because it was the earlier series and its bad effects (compared to what you'd see in productions with bigger budgets) that was said to have led to the hiatus. "We can't go on doing this the way we are. It's laughable and other movies and shows are making us look worse than a puppet show." Are you saying that the current version of Doctor Who is world-famous for "dodgy special effects"?
I want a follow up special that reveals that the origin of The Rani is really a human girl from Earth's early 21st century who accidentally transforms herself into a Time Lord and regenerates into an evil incarnation before being saved by her friends Clyde and Luke
Susan raises an interesting question in this charity special, when she tells Colin Baker's Doctor I want my Doctor where's grandfather. When the Doctor regenerates does he totally become a new person that past family ties are cut? For instance when River Song meets David Tennant's Doctor she doesn't refer to him as her husband. (the meeting is the 1st time that the Doctor meets River but the final time River is with the Doctor) She only refer's to Matt Smith's Doctor as her husband
@brandoman79 Actually, the only time she calls him "the Doctor" is when she asks Tegan if the Master is a friend of his, and in that instance I think it was just for clarification. Plus, I have a feeling she might have felt a bit weird calling this cricketer who looked younger than herself "Grandfather." I know Susan has been appearing alongside the Eighth Doctor in the Big Finish audios, but I haven't heard them, so I don't know how she addresses him in those stories.
We need to bring Rani back in the modern series, because if nothing else, I refuse to have this as her last on screen appearance. She is a better character then this.
I attacked nothing. You yourself said the effects weren't done well. Did YOU attack them? I, by the way, AM a "classic Whovian", having first "met" the third Doctor. I've been on board ever since. As for what the series being "cancelled" really was or what it meant, I know what I've been told. Surprised you hadn't heard the same things.
Then you need to start questioning your sources. Look up the recollections of Sylvester McCoy, Sophie Aldred, and John Nathan-Turner. The show was cancelled.
The series was ON HIATUS for very good reasons. I'll agree with you on the production values, special effects, sets, etc. Stories and characterizations? How do the current ones fail compared to the classic? Continuity... Could you tell me where they've failed on that count?
Funny about how people get worked up about the special effects. It was the 1970s and the budget was very small! My daughter (who's still only 15) used to be like "But I love the bubble wrap monsters, Mummy!" - when we watched old Jon Pertwee episodes on VHS. She then got scared of it because of the Ood, and only returned recently because she has a thing for Peter Capaldi. But in my mind, the rubbish special effects were what made Dr Who. That and the great acting. X to all.
5:00 this scene doesn't make sense since the doctors granddaughter is a timelord herself and she can't recognise her own grandfather OR the fact that timelords can regenerate considering she already met the doctors future selves in "the five doctors" episode ?? 🤷🏾♂
Hell no, Peri was the hotty back then. I remember being a little kid and watching that era of Doctor Who with my Dad and he used to say Peri had a nice pair. Didn't know what he meant then but I agree now ;)
In this amazing special, we see all the surviving Classic Doctors and most all of the companions, we see the 6th Doctor and the Brigadier on screen for the only time ever, we see Liz Shaw rush the Rani to save the 3rd Doctor!!
This special is like a theme park live action show, don't ruin it by asking questions on whether it's good or not, just watch the awesome!
"Amazing"....
This was done as a fund raiser, and made very quickly and very inexpensively and as a simple bit of fun. To attack it as bad is to miss the point.
Despite the "uneveness"" of this special. It is just soo good to see what was to be the last appearence of many of these performers as their Doctor Who incarantions. I wish somehow some of the footage could be used in an offical adventure.
Thus far, it’s proven itself to be the last official performances of
Jon Pertwee as The Third Doctor
Deborah Watling As Victoria Waterfield
Caroline John As Liz Shaw
And
Kate O’Mara As The Rani
And you rarely got to see 5 actually wearing his hat ! This really was an occasion !
This was Bonnie Langford’s first time visiting the Albert Square, several years later she would return to EastEnders as Carmel.
"You're not the Doctor!" "Yes I am."
"Allright then, take a look at this coat, ain't it nice?"
Fuck Off We're All Doctors
It’s awful but getting that many of the actors together was some achievement.
5:00 im more concerned this scene doesn't make sense since the doctors granddaughter is a timelord herself and some how she she doesn't recognise her own grandfather or the fact that timelords can regenerate considering she already met the doctors future selves in "the five doctors" episode ?? 🤷🏾♂
Anyone else watching from 1973
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Hartnell was only recast because he was dead. In cases like this, the fans don't care that the actors look older; it's awesome just to have them back.
You could called this "The Doctor Who Holiday Special"!
Remember watching this at 7 years old wishing that they'd bring back Doctor who for the 50th anniversary, my dreams were made true, thankfully the standard is much better these days.
The use of 3D in the recent one was also much better :D stupid Pulfrich effect...
Diamond Song
Yeah, to make the Pulfrich effect work, everything has to be in motion. Therefore everyone was constantly running or was standing in front of some ridiculously colourful and spinning background and why there are flying heads. xD
Did you watch any DW from before this? Just curious because you only compare this to New Who, nothing else.
EK Blackwell Classic Doctor Who is much, much better than this ... thing. You should definitly give it a go ;)
Still have the Radio times from 1993.. & the 3D specs. Hell yeh :D
It was part of a 3D experiment.. had to keep the camera moving to create the effect.. the best line .. "well I've seen them thrown out of The Vic......"..cheers
The Rani's assistant Cyrian is played by Samuel West, who played King Caspian of Narnia in the T.V. version of "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" and Victor Frankenstein in the movie "Van Helsing."
I've never seen this b4. I like it! Thanks 4 uploading! :-)
This special has a lack of dalek
I love the bit with Frank Butcher. This is totally worth a laugh every now and again. :)
This one makes me think... I can't wait to see what that have planed for the 50th anniversary doctor who, just to see how many of the past doctors will be in it. Hope to see Tom Baker and Peter Davison
"Bottomless bank account?" Nobody at the Beeb has ever had one of those!
Probably THE ONLY special i wish was available on home media (whether it's here in the states or over there in the uk) also, I hope they make a sequel of sorts to this someday. Could you imagine doctors four, five,six, seven, eight,ten, eleven, thirteen, and even the fifteenth doctor appearing on the small screen together for the first time along with their respective companions? (Although thinking about it now I'm not sure if christopher eccelston or peter capaldi would want to return as doctors nine and twelve......but,hey a fan can dream can't he?)
Is Tom in a computer screen saver!
Oh, the documentary is real enough, and a lot of Classic Series fans are looking forward to that more than to the actual 50th anniversary show.
Having said that, it would indeed be cool to have David Bradley turn up on the show as the First Doctor!
Nothing like unbiased commentary. "Notoriously bad," indeed! This is a delightful DW home movie.
that's what I thought, but I know in the Five Doctor's special Susan only refer's to the 1st Doctor as Grandfather and doesn't call 5th, 3rd or 2nd Doctor's grandfather, she refers to them as Doctor like any other companion would
You forgot to mention Lalla Ward, and she's the lynchpin of the bonkers climax!
wtf was she doing hiding in someone's garage?
I kinda like this version of the theme song. Makes me want to go club hopping with Daleks.
"MADAM... WHAT YEAR IS THITH?!?"
Yay, random overdramatizing! :-P
We all know this is what we really want for the 50th anniversary, a multi-Doctor, multi-companion story, but, well, better done :)
You must love the Chinball 60s aniversary?
@@mayotango1317 Every anniversary has been multi-doctor. Chibnall ain't bringing anything new
Shows with less than perfect FX, yes, because the fans are drawn in by the writing and the performances, thus obviating the daft notion that such shows are taken off T.V. for a stretch of decades until they can "do it better."
No, I heard the truth, as you can hear it from the lips of JNT, Sylv, and Sophie if you watch "More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS," available on disc 3 of the 3-DVD set of "Shada."
There's also the special "Endgame" on the DVD of "Survival."
Oh god... With the news today that the 50th Anniversary special will be in 3-D, I can only hope that the BBC learned from when they made this...
From what I can remember the 3D effect was pretty good. Unfortunately you literally have to have one of the original pairs of 3D glasses to make it work because they weren't the typical red and green 3D glasses
Camille Coduri's credits didn't include this, so, no, the woman at 4:27 didn't play Rosé Tyler's mum.
Jackie Tyler was evidently a caricature of a specific type in London, though
The late Wendy Richard playing Pauline Fowler from Eastenders.
Actually it is.
This wouldn't show up in her credits because this wasn't "Doctor Who" this was a cross over with a show called "EastEnders" So, Camile Coduri's credit for "EastEnders" counts as this. Thought she's playing a completely different character.
But headcanon's and all that.
Thank you for that information.
I think the main reason the BBC did this was because they had some new tech they wanted to play with. I remember that this was filmed in 3D and you got the specs as a free gift in that week's Radio Times. The swirling camera action was to take advantage of the added depth that movement in a certain direction gave the film. This is what happens when effects and tech have a priority over script and acting.
It was the first time I'd ever seen true moving 3D and it was really well done. I wish it hadn't been a one off.
A proud notch on Samuel West’s CV no doubt! Doctor 👩⚕️ Who and Kate O’Mara as well.
That whip is seen can never be unseen
That which is seen can never be unseen
thanks for this, just wish it was better quality pic
The Rani has a companion omg lol
I was dying to go to Albert Square
I myself acknowledged that the BBC never dug too terribly deep into its pocket; it shows in other programs they put on, sci-fi examples of which include "Blake's 7" and "Red Dwarf." This did not stop those shows from having cult followings just like DW.
You are the one trollishly insisting upon something that simply is not true. DW was not on hiatus when "Dimensions in Time" was made. It had been canceled, axed, given the boot, and chucked.
hey you got your Doctor who in my Eastenders ! Hey you got your Eastenders in my Doctor Who ! :D
quite enjoyed it as a historical artefact!!
If I recall well this was meant to be watched with 3d glasses for maximum effect :)
The whole point of this was the 3D effect.
As a long time who fan, that was painful to watch back then. Its not better now, such a great chance wasted. Great to see people who aren't with us anymore. It always good to watch and realise how much the BBC didn't care about doctor who back then. Its terrible but I can't help watching it once in a while. So bad it might be good
I still have my 3D glasses
Pointing out a mistake is scarcely being picky; on the contrary, it's educational. As for dodgy special effects, DW is world-famous for them.
"It's laughable and other movies and shows are making us look worse than a puppet show."
That could be construed as an attack. I didn't say anything that the folks at DW haven't said; I also said many of them were very innovative. A lot of them were impressive when you take into account the budget, or lack of.
I advise you to find the three-DVD set of "Shada." It contains the special "More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS," in which Sylv and Sophie share their memories of the cancellation.
Trust me, nobody would care, and a hand-waving explanation would be more than satisfactory. I mean, folks looked at Pat Troughton's grey hair in "The Two Doctors" and just shrugged.
Now, they could have the Doctor visit realities where his counterparts never regenerated.
As for digital rejuventation, I don't know if even the FX department as it is now could afford to do that.
Ah, nothing like a civilized comeback. And that was nothing like a civilized comeback.
Five if you count Paul McGann, as most do.
also the mind robber (special edition) and the two doctors (special edition)
I never attacked the original series. What I meant was it's been said the decision was made to "rest" the show until it could be done with good special effects on their budget (like other productions were being done with). Notice when it got to the point even people with home computers could do videos with really good special effects that DW returned? (Which was an excellent choice on the part of the Beeb.)
As for the writing... I dunno. I take what I can get. I like Doctor Who.
It wasn't amazing but it wasn't bad either
Even now; ask anyone who's seen the classic series.
I remember that too,
To experience the depth effect, get yourself a cheap pair of sunglasses, pop out one of the lenses and wear them whilst watching this.
It was the original series with its expert writing and superlative performances that kept the fans watching for twenty-six years. The effects were, in many cases, very innovative, and fans did not obsess over them.
I was referring to the classic series, obviously. As for the new series, there have been things less than 100% effective; the Raxacoricofallapatorians, for instance. But there's an inversion now: great effects and lousy writing.
Totally agree - would rather have good writing & rough around the edges effects than all flash & no substance.
@@Paul_1971 _Star Trek_ and _Lost in Space_ fit that description as well! Lots of great stories and memorable characters.
This was originally broadcast in an experimental 3D TV format hence all the flying computer graphic shapes
I would love for this to be released on DVD. I would like real time, death comes to time and shada (animated version) to be released on DVD. also I would like for the crusade episodes 2 and 4 animated for a DVD release, mission to the unknown the whole episode animated and episode 3 of the web of fear with animation. hopefully the underwater menace in going to be released this year to.... the BBC said they would with episodes 1 and 4 animated. fingers crossed.
And it never happened :/
+Imrathan yep and the underwater menace got crappy reconstruction
It's a shame because it's a really good story. Hopefully one day we get a special edition.
+Imrathan I don't think so unless episode 1 & 4 are found
In the days before the Cutty Sark disaster!
Doctor who and Eastenders what a masterpiece
Perfect Dr Who story line
With 1/6th the runtime in order prevent smoothing out of the plot!
@@ShamrockParticle Prevent smoothing out the plot? Someone call Chibnall, he'll love it.
to be fair it makes more sense than Ghost light, and even Resurrection of the daleks come to think of it.
I meant "even the current series"? Because it was the earlier series and its bad effects (compared to what you'd see in productions with bigger budgets) that was said to have led to the hiatus.
"We can't go on doing this the way we are. It's laughable and other movies and shows are making us look worse than a puppet show."
Are you saying that the current version of Doctor Who is world-famous for "dodgy special effects"?
Inspector Spacetime should do a special like this one.
10:26 Leela rocking the Shobogan threads!
Still more previous actors and doctors appearing than in the 50th.....
@Smallvillenerd I don;t understand your question. I know no-one who "hates" him, and I've been in DW fandom since 1978.
I didn't know Carmel Kazemi traveled with the Doctor 😂
I want a follow up special that reveals that the origin of The Rani is really a human girl from Earth's early 21st century who accidentally transforms herself into a Time Lord and regenerates into an evil incarnation before being saved by her friends Clyde and Luke
Susan raises an interesting question in this charity special, when she tells Colin Baker's Doctor I want my Doctor where's grandfather. When the Doctor regenerates does he totally become a new person that past family ties are cut? For instance when River Song meets David Tennant's Doctor she doesn't refer to him as her husband. (the meeting is the 1st time that the Doctor meets River but the final time River is with the Doctor) She only refer's to Matt Smith's Doctor as her husband
I mean it is flawed but still a whole lot of fun.
@brandoman79 Actually, the only time she calls him "the Doctor" is when she asks Tegan if the Master is a friend of his, and in that instance I think it was just for clarification. Plus, I have a feeling she might have felt a bit weird calling this cricketer who looked younger than herself "Grandfather."
I know Susan has been appearing alongside the Eighth Doctor in the Big Finish audios, but I haven't heard them, so I don't know how she addresses him in those stories.
11.32 the BBC disrespect Colin Baker
If you think about it this would be technically the seven doctors in a way.
It's impressive how little of this made sense, it's as if the scriptwriters tried extra hard to make it suck.
Put on your 3-D glasses!!!!
Love Eastenders. Love doctor who. How did I not know this video existed.
The execution was terrible, but I love the idea, sounds like something out of a fanfic though,
Cancelled as in "will never be seen again" or as in "until we can do it better"?
The series had been cancelled as of 1989; this was 1993.
You haven't answered my questions yet, so I'll wait to answer yours.
You do realize that even officially published stories can leave out details, don't you? Comments on a DVD?
Oh please...
8:26 same door close sound effect used in GoldenEye64 😂
It's Not Fucking Bad It's Awesome
2013? Wait, the doctor is watching himself?
How can what be?
Not sure about the disco dance 💃 theme?
Not a bad attempt at anything; it was a reference to the charity for which this raised money.
We need to bring Rani back in the modern series, because if nothing else, I refuse to have this as her last on screen appearance. She is a better character then this.
4:19
Don't act like this isn't exactly why you're here
I attacked nothing. You yourself said the effects weren't done well. Did YOU attack them?
I, by the way, AM a "classic Whovian", having first "met" the third Doctor.
I've been on board ever since.
As for what the series being "cancelled" really was or what it meant, I know what I've been told. Surprised you hadn't heard the same things.
Then you need to start questioning your sources. Look up the recollections of Sylvester McCoy, Sophie Aldred, and John Nathan-Turner. The show was cancelled.
Bite your typing fingers! The acting was great, because these people were and are great actors.
This is in 3-D, so get those 3-D glasses on!
The series was ON HIATUS for very good reasons.
I'll agree with you on the production values, special effects, sets, etc.
Stories and characterizations? How do the current ones fail compared to the classic?
Continuity...
Could you tell me where they've failed on that count?
Funny about how people get worked up about the special effects. It was the 1970s and the budget was very small! My daughter (who's still only 15) used to be like "But I love the bubble wrap monsters, Mummy!" - when we watched old Jon Pertwee episodes on VHS. She then got scared of it because of the Ood, and only returned recently because she has a thing for Peter Capaldi. But in my mind, the rubbish special effects were what made Dr Who. That and the great acting. X to all.
5:00 this scene doesn't make sense since the doctors granddaughter is a timelord herself and she can't recognise her own grandfather OR the fact that timelords can regenerate considering she already met the doctors future selves in "the five doctors" episode ?? 🤷🏾♂
How do you know there wasn't more to the story than what you heard?
@8:09: Ah, I was wondering if this was the "Ted" or "Mandy" version.
They should put this on one of the upcoming dr who dvds. Too bad the Master wasn't in this.
Even now?
Hell no, Peri was the hotty back then. I remember being a little kid and watching that era of Doctor Who with my Dad and he used to say Peri had a nice pair. Didn't know what he meant then but I agree now ;)
@Smallvillenerd As opposed to?
I know about Paul, I was only counting the ones in the TV show.