After shopping anywhere and everywhere for a new drumset and looking at everything I just couldnt make up my mind about anything. I never owned a vistalite but wanted one bad as a kid. So after much indecisiveness I saw something that made me think I might as well get a kit that represents just that...A jellybean Ludwig 50th anniversary
That's awesome Greg. As drummers we are often led by things that impressed us as kids or teenagers (call it nostalgia or even marketing) but my experience is that playing drums that have meaning or sentiment to us make all the difference. Congrats mate, enjoy! - Tony
Isn’t buying a new drum nowadays the most indecisive thing that you can possibly do with all the videos out shell size type of wood and don’t even get me started on finishes you can change your mind every single day of the week especially since I love DW. I hope you love yours as much as the one I decided on.
I like these versalites and acrylic drums in general, I currently have the dw sea glass acrylic set and they have a warm punchy tone after I put some Evans G2 on the top.
I have 2 22 inch kick drums. 2 24 inch kicks, and 2 26 inch kicks. Throw your 22’s away. 24’s go thump. 26’s go booom. I have a clear vistalite kit with 2 26’s. They sound great. The harder the drum material, the longer it sustains. Get the vistalites. Trust me.
Yeah I understand, but a snare stand sucks the tone out of your Tom unless you’re using a snare stand Tom resonance system of sorts or tuning the drum to a resonate pitch. The Tama HTS108W Single Tom Stand is our preferred way.
Yeah, I get it. There is a sound difference between DW and the Ludwig's mostly due to do the extra weight and size of DW lugs etc. but essentially acrylic drums are all very similar, so if price is king. Long live the king.
i had the vistalite and the pearl crystal beat , and a $1200 natal they all sound the same with the same heads on them and the same person tuning them i sold the ludwig for $4g the pearl for $2 g and kept the Natal the only difference was the lug shape and badges
Hey Tim, thanks for your comment. Phasing is a complex reality. On my show, I don't follow any other prescription, set up or engineering rules other than does it sound the best that it can. Some people say I use a Glyn Johns style of set up, but I had never heard of him at the time. I simply use the room mic on the floor as my main body of sound, move the left OH to capture primarily small toms and LH cymbals, the right OH for floor Tom primarily and RH cymbals balancing the two based on the player; the snare has it own mic for clarity; I move them each around individually until they make the kit sound it's best. Regarding "perfect" phasing, the truth is that with any more than one microphone on more than one sound source, you simply can't avoid phasing, so it's not about in or out of phase for me, like all things drums, it's about how does it sound. There was a time studio engineers used two mics on toms, one top and one bottom out of phase to capture the "best sound". The simple fact is that you can't have all mics in phase to each drum and cymbal on your kit, the physical reality that every drum and cymbal is at a different distance to all others (and there for microphone) makes that a fool's errand and impossible task and more so - chasing in phase with multipack mics and drums a best case scenario for me. As such we just do our best on the day (as we are on location, using headphones only, shoot three or four kit set ups and recording in the same room as the drums are being played) and simply found it's best just to listen with your ears. To be clear, I never measure distance away from snare or anything really, we just listen for balance, low end and fullness and if it's position is good for that and it works for that drum/cymbal setup and player, that's where it goes. Thanks for your comment, if you rewatch and look closely, I do believe you'll see that the mic went back to where it was anyways. Have a great day, Tim, thanks for your thoughts. Tony M
Vistalites have always been extremely alive feeling and sounding to me! I love their tone, my favorite Ludwigs!
Yeah so true, they have a lot of energy coming out of them from the drum seat.
That bass drums sounds amazing
Sure does.
Just as I was decided on a 22" kick for my next kit... dayum this kit sounds good.
A 24" is like immersing yourself in a hot bath as compared to wading in water up to your knees.
@@KillerDrumsTV What's a 20" then? Getting your feet wet in a puddle? hehe
Don’t get 22 inch bass drums. Get 26’s
I play a 1976 ludwig vistalite clear kit. Very punchy and LOUD!!!!
Yeah, great gear. Thanks for the comment.
This is ah phantastic Drumkit. And the Cymbals are Amazing. Top Drummer 👍🏼😉
Thanks a lot!
After shopping anywhere and everywhere for a new drumset and looking at everything I just couldnt make up my mind about anything. I never owned a vistalite but wanted one bad as a kid. So after much indecisiveness I saw something that made me think I might as well get a kit that represents just that...A jellybean Ludwig 50th anniversary
That's awesome Greg. As drummers we are often led by things that impressed us as kids or teenagers (call it nostalgia or even marketing) but my experience is that playing drums that have meaning or sentiment to us make all the difference. Congrats mate, enjoy! - Tony
Isn’t buying a new drum nowadays the most indecisive thing that you can possibly do with all the videos out shell size type of wood and don’t even get me started on finishes you can change your mind every single day of the week especially since I love DW. I hope you love yours as much as the one I decided on.
I like these versalites and acrylic drums in general, I currently have the dw sea glass acrylic set and they have a warm punchy tone after I put some Evans G2 on the top.
Sounds great Leonard.
Geya, Geya, Geya!! Love it! ❤
Thanks mate
Ringo played 12 14 20 then 13 16 22.
Correct
I have 2 22 inch kick drums. 2 24 inch kicks, and 2 26 inch kicks. Throw your 22’s away. 24’s go thump. 26’s go booom. I have a clear vistalite kit with 2 26’s. They sound great. The harder the drum material, the longer it sustains. Get the vistalites. Trust me.
Yeah! I’m a 24” main kick man, and 26 or 28 side kick (if room allows).
I prefer the Tom on a snare stand so it frees up the space for a straight cymbal stand for the crash
Yeah I understand, but a snare stand sucks the tone out of your Tom unless you’re using a snare stand Tom resonance system of sorts or tuning the drum to a resonate pitch.
The Tama HTS108W Single Tom Stand is our preferred way.
Great drumming.
Jackie would be great playing The Who music, ala Keith Moon.
Jackie, is great playing for anyone and on anything.
I’ve never seen the logic in the price point when DW Acrylics are about half the price of Ludwig’s.
Yeah, I get it. There is a sound difference between DW and the Ludwig's mostly due to do the extra weight and size of DW lugs etc. but essentially acrylic drums are all very similar, so if price is king. Long live the king.
You can’t get a 26x14 with dw. You can with ludwig
i had the vistalite and the pearl crystal beat , and a $1200 natal they all sound the same with the same heads on them and the same person tuning them i sold the ludwig for $4g the pearl for $2 g and kept the Natal the only difference was the lug shape and badges
to bad your friend put the far mic closer, so that it is not perfectly in phase anymore
Hey Tim, thanks for your comment. Phasing is a complex reality. On my show, I don't follow any other prescription, set up or engineering rules other than does it sound the best that it can. Some people say I use a Glyn Johns style of set up, but I had never heard of him at the time. I simply use the room mic on the floor as my main body of sound, move the left OH to capture primarily small toms and LH cymbals, the right OH for floor Tom primarily and RH cymbals balancing the two based on the player; the snare has it own mic for clarity; I move them each around individually until they make the kit sound it's best.
Regarding "perfect" phasing, the truth is that with any more than one microphone on more than one sound source, you simply can't avoid phasing, so it's not about in or out of phase for me, like all things drums, it's about how does it sound. There was a time studio engineers used two mics on toms, one top and one bottom out of phase to capture the "best sound". The simple fact is that you can't have all mics in phase to each drum and cymbal on your kit, the physical reality that every drum and cymbal is at a different distance to all others (and there for microphone) makes that a fool's errand and impossible task and more so - chasing in phase with multipack mics and drums a best case scenario for me.
As such we just do our best on the day (as we are on location, using headphones only, shoot three or four kit set ups and recording in the same room as the drums are being played) and simply found it's best just to listen with your ears.
To be clear, I never measure distance away from snare or anything really, we just listen for balance, low end and fullness and if it's position is good for that and it works for that drum/cymbal setup and player, that's where it goes.
Thanks for your comment, if you rewatch and look closely, I do believe you'll see that the mic went back to where it was anyways.
Have a great day, Tim, thanks for your thoughts. Tony M
Maybe get a better drummer to demo the drums. I take it you're trying to sell them.
Thanks for your comment, we're pretty stoked to have Jackie Barnes on our show as a regular guest... th-cam.com/users/JackieJamesBarnesOfficialvideos
@@KillerDrumsTV Agree. Nothing wrong with his drumming. Prefer this to some guy mindlessly doing blast beat lol !