I am interested in both the Vanguard and the Vamp. I am really hoping the Vamp does not blow past the one hondo price range, especially given the features and estimated price of the Vanguard. I think the best thing about the Vamp is Hasbro is showing it is willing to put out things bigger than motorcycles and flight pods without resorting to HasLab. Like, maybe one day I will actually get a Classified Thunder Machine
All truth as usual from you man and I gotta say I agree I think it will be over or at the 100 price minimum but we ll see hopefully not but there greed will most likely get the best of them. Thanks for the continued support shad 🙏🏽🔥
Vamp has to be under £70... otherwise makes their Haslabs look like what they are. But why do people want vehicles in this scale... got alot of space lol.
I had a bad experience with the original haul of Valaverse figures from the kickstarter and sold them off and now i just stick with Classified BUT I think its amazing that Valaverse is doing great and has some great ambassadors (AnalogToys and Ninja to name a few) helping to get the word out. Competition is great for any market and with both companies pushing out great product even if you only collect one you should be happy the other side is doing great as well. Think of the Monday Night Wars in wrestling back in the late 90s as it was some of the best wrestling content put out.
The first vamp that originally came out didn’t have doors or a top. The second one and the cobra versions were the ones that had doors. I’m sure the next versions of this will have them. I will most likely pick this up.
The competition between Classified and Action Force is great for us collectors. Your 💯 correct it’s a great time for toy collecting. I hope nothing but the best for both.
I'm guessing the Vamp and Clutch will be around $80-$100. Serpentor was $75 and The Vamp is a bit bigger but a lot of open space since it only has the roll cage. Can't wait to get it.
@@anthonyramey7917the Serpentor set was upcharged cause of it being a convention exclusive, if anything that was actually closer to the $55 Pulse exclusive tele viper and trouble bubble in my opinion
@@_Kimberlin Possible. It's a little more Beefy than a trouble bubble and Serpentor is a big guy. But I can see your point. I'm hoping that can keep the Vamp close to $60-80 but we are dealing with Hasbro suits.
The two lines complement each other. If vala didnt present his truck its probably we havent got renders of the Vamp. I dont care to compare, if i like it i buy it. Vala make hasbro open his close eyes Vala need to be support as well they do a fantastic job.
So long as the price is right, and hasbro feels more confident releasing decent mid sized vehicles frequently, I'll be happy. Personally, I'm getting both the Vamp and Vanguard. They'll look great together.
when i saw this my first reaction was lead scout vehicle (vamp) and support transport (vanguard) they would look together with the right figures so im getting both hoping the vamp's price does not exceed the vanguards price range and crossing fingers whos going to put out a tank and please not crowd funded and nice video waiting for the next one
I gotta watch that soapbox man I watch em regularly you know I support ya content man with a view and a like all the time it's great. Thanks for showing some love. 🙏🏽
The VAMP was my first G.I. Joe toy as a kid - a 1982 version new in box with straight-arm Clutch. So nostalgia for that vehicle for me is very high, but even then, the eventual price for this from Hasbro is something I don't trust at the moment. They GOUGE us for everything now, and they seem to revel in that. I'm backing into the hedge on this VAMP until I see a price.
Totally understand and that makes sense, though it would be nice to see sitting next to you on your table as you talk about it so I might have to send you mine lol ( assuming their price doesn't run me off as well ) 😂 hope all is well bro.
Between the price,which we can only speculate with the vamp,and the fact that my toy collection is beginning to take up more room than my wife would like,I will be going with the Vanguard.I can see a nice manageable display with it and my desert rat and troops.
I'm getting a Vanguard and most likely also getting a VAMP. I think both vehicles have space in my collection. Now, thinking about the pricing for the VAMP and looking at what Hasbro has charged in the past for Star Wars vehicles, I would bet the price will be between 115 and 120, which is not really good but also not terrible. Keep the great work Ninja!
To me, $115-120 is unreasonable, especially for the bare-bones MkI. (In shops like Target, you can get a really nice quality diecast car of that size for about $40.) I'd have to seriously consider my options if it was that much. I'd probably pass and wait for the Stinger. That's a must buy even if it's overpriced.
The Vamp doesn't need doors because in the cartoons no one ever gets shot. Might as well enjoy the fresh air and breeze while you're out cruising for Cobras! 😉
OMG you had to bring up price! I just remember having the Vamp as a kid when it first came out. I was never to big into Joe vehicles since I was more into Transformers which I wanted more, but I had the Vamp. I played with that so much till it broke and was tossed out. I would love to have one again with my current Joe figures. Most likely even if it is over priced, I'll still get it. I had fun with the one I had as a kid.
Hopefully, it's less than $100. Clutch and the Vamp was my very 1st joe my moms could afford. Vamp is like recon vec or mule. You take her at best to VDOP, better not take her straight into a fight, lmao. Chill video as always. My Joe's and Vala are always standing tall together.
Vanguard will be my main troop transport and the Vamp will be my scout/recon vehicle will definitely have 1 for my sniper squad when Valaverse's gear pack releases
$100 would be perfect for the vamp. 2 -3 vamps on the Frontline wit the motorbikes with the vanguard bringing up the rear with the heavy artillery squad.
"Action figure politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low. Fuck McFarlane though" -Henry Kissinger I want both. Really like the idea of a Vanguard and two Vamps working as a unit together.
If I'm not mistaken, they are going to put this in retail. that said, I hope they don't charge an arm and a leg because I don't see retail stores wanting to sell high priced toys. $89.99-$99.99 tops. Serpentor was high priced because of the fancy box and being an exclusive. Time will tell and I do plan on getting at least 1. og 13 for the win
The Vanguard is an automatic cop for me. The Vamp looks dope and I’ll probably pick one up. I always have love for GI JOE , but MY collecting and world building is more modern military.
I need both though the Vamp will probably be my preferred choice due to the convertible look it has. Hopefully we get a convertible Vanguard eventually.
The doors come off on the Vanguard. I also love both but I can see myself getting three vamps. I want to get two vanguards but that will be dependent on the price as well as colors you’re allowed to pick from.
I abused my Vamp M1 as a kid LOL. It was a must have, I love it. But Hasbro 2020 has been great at loosing my trust. The Vangaurd is honestly twice the vehicle. Consider this. The Fortnite boat came out at $60. Its about 4" inches lthan my 1:10thscale (bigger than 1:12 scale up) Vamps I printed, and it's got a lot more plastic etc. I think $75 would be a successful price point for the Vamp M1, and consider this will be a retail release so they will be able to make a lot more. at >75 I would get it. I think $100+ would be a greedy Hasbro grab. It does look groovy, I would love to have it. It's held a place in my heart since 82. But we'll see how greedy Hasblow gets LOL.
Very true good points and I agree the vanguard is twice the size and comes with more but we will see what price hasbro set I doubt they will be under 100 if that boat was what it was.
I have to go with the VAMP because it has one of my most favorite character, "Clutch". I need him in my collection. Nostalgia also hits me as the VAMP is my first vehicle in my childhood. I will buy the VAMP set.
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Yo my Man it's like you reached into my brain and took out everything I was wanting to say about all this and you said it so I could not agree more with everything you just said That's exactly I mean exactly what I've been thinking thank you so much for the video and thanks for always saying what I'm thinking out loud I love your channel keep it up man 🙏🙌🙌
Original 3 & 3/4 Vamp had no doors. Vamp in my opinion should come in at around $79-$89. The original retail price Hasbro put the Fortnite boat out at was $89 and the boat is much bigger. I know Vamp will be in higher demand than the Fortnite boat but if they keep it at around that price you'll have folks buying more than one.
Do not HOPE for a low price from Hasbro. DEMAND a low price from Hasbro. Hasbro does not deserve any leeway considering the shenanigans they pulled on us. Hasbro increased prices while reducing quality. Valaverse seems to be lowering prices while increasing quality.
I get ragged by a chat group I am in cause I like Valaverse and use them with my Joes. I just laugh and keep doing me cause I buy what I like, regardless. Thanks for another great video.
I'll be getting both. I'm excited for the vamp it was my first joe vehicle. They're both different vehicles like you said. I'm 100% with you ninja there's nothing wrong with liking both. I'm always catching flak for defending valaverse. I don't get the whole fight I'm with you about building a cool as looking military display. When you were a kid didn't you mash up all your toys and just play that's how I see it now. Give .e all the military figures so I can have a better play experience.
So much to unpack here. While I'm not a fanboy for either manufacturer, in this case, Hasbro vs Valaverse, I have a bunch of figures from both manufacturers and love them both. I think my choice (if I even get it) would be the Vamp. For me, I would have to decide on one over the other for financial reasons. Aside from the financial portion, I have the Hiss tank coming, and another big concern I have is how the Vanguard would scale with the Hiss and I suspect it's going to be huge. Lastly, depending on the price of the Vamp, I would choose it over the Vanguard for nostalgic reasons. I had the Vamp as a kid and nostalgia is like 90% of why I collect this stuff.
Ninja you're out there putting the assassination on them haters!! Keep it up 💯 💯 💯 Vehicles are something the community has been asking for. The Vamp looks cool but I'm betting the Vanguard will be a better overall offer. I'm likely going to get both unless the price ends up being crazy on the Vamp.
The one thing that the VAMP has over the Vanguard is that it is the VAMP. Oh, and it comes with Clutch. If I had to choose one, I'd take the VAMP and Clutch because if I was collecting Classified it would be to rebuild my 80s Joe collection. The VAMP scratches that itch, the Vanguard doesn't. I really don't understand why you emphasize so much the vehicle capacity of the Vanguard; holding more figures isn't inherently better. As you said, these are two very different vehicles with two different jobs. The VAMP is what it has always been. If I want a FANG copter, I don't care if a competing helicopter holds 7 figures, but if I am looking for a troop carrier that would be a factor. Both vehicles look great. If you have the space and money, there's no reason you can't or shouldn't buy both.
I have a feeling Hasbro will surprise us with the price of the VAMP. I'm going to guess 89.99. The Trouble bubble at $54.99 and Serpentor at $79.99 would be decent comps. Considering Serpentor was some con exclusive, I'd say this vehicle is near that price.
The Vanguard is like a damn Escalade and the Vamp is a Jeep Wrangler. Hopefully, the Vamp is priced accordingly. Either way, I will get both. Gen. Hawk's convoy will need both!! Keep it up Ninja.
On a side note. I'm stacking up on these Polaris remote control jeeps that Articulated Ninja made a video about. I found seven of them for $3 each at a thrift store. I wish I can find a Canon instead of using these small guns from final faction. But they're going to look real good next to my hiss tanks and crimson army.
Good review. The Vamp will be the one i choose. I don't have a lot of space for a Vanguard. The Vamp has huge nostalgic vibes for me. I still have a 1/18 scale Vamp on my shelf. I can't see this jeep being over $100. For sure people will be buying multiples.
If I’m getting one it’ll probably be classified series, for me it’s not about putting figures inside the car but having an open space to view the figures, that said if the price is too high for what it is I’ll probably go valaverse
Just let me live in this head space for a moment. HASBRO delivers a VAMP for $75 similar in content to the MacFarlane Batmobile. No bells, no whistles. Just a basic VAMP like in the 80's, but with doors. It will absolutely sell! If they cross $100, say in the $125 range, and it's gonna be a peg warming disaster.
My biggest pet peeve with VAMP is the fact there is no room for a figure to sit and operate the machinegun. One does not simply puts a machine gun in a vehicle without putting a place for him to sit down. I hope I can get a Vanguard in the future.
The Vamp is the right move for Hasbro's first foray into mainline vehicles (Aside from motorbikes). It has served on both sides in the GI Joe conflict, its chassis has had multiple configurations and colour schemes for reissue and it's small enough that it won't be a space hog. That being said I hope that the price does not go above $120 and in an ideal world it will be $90 for a bare bones offering. If Hasbro goes the extra mile and adds in some bells and whistles like rubber tires, an accessible engine area with detailed engine, turning front wheels with working suspension and the like, then we can start looking at $120. Regardless, we can only look and speculate at the moment. Here's hoping they make a wise choice for themselves and all collectors alike. Thank you very much for your video Articulated Ninja 👍
Plastic is plastic - so I’ll most likely purchase the Vamp - but I’m happy for those who purchase the Vanguard - I’m thinking 80$ to 100$ for the Vamp, plus Clutch
Yeah that’s my guesstimate as well. I’d be shocked if it went over $120. Im hoping they make an announcement soon which would mean Vala will have to bring that car down to the lowest of the price range.
Thank you for addressing the stupid way. People are thinking about these vehicles and hating on Valaverse. I like both of the vehicles I think they are two completely different products though.
I can’t wait for these. The vanguard with like 2 - 3 vamps along side it. Add that to my modded halo warthog and I’m good to go. Can not wait!!! If the Vamp is $75 or less I’m getting two minimum. More if it’s cheaper. The vanguard is a must for sure. Also. F that noise. Like what you like and mix and match as to see fit. Enjoy your hobby.
I'm estimating a price of around $90-95, and even that would be overcharging a bit. It's not as large or as complex as the Black Series Snowspeeder, which was $115. It's quite simplistic. Just a basic chassis, two seats and some accessories. It doesn't have much more mass than two Ram Cycles. If they don't get greedy with the price, they could sell fifty thousand of these.
Interested in both but price will ultimately be the main factor for me. Depends on when and what my finances are for both. I can’t say until they drop. It’s entirely possible one could drop at a time I can handle it and the other doesn’t. I’ve not got my heart settled on either because of that.
dude, you are an artist, I love your dioramas and that glorious lighting you use...beautiful, they look like still shots taken from a movie. love your content, and yes that is true, you can love many different things in life, those crybabies just need to get one and stop worrying about others' opinions so much. awesome vid as always.
I know his videos are like nothing we have seen before & those crybabies just keep making comparison videos on vehicles that arent even out yet! Crazy world we live in!
It’s starting to get kinda culty with the Vala only club. Everybody should be buying ANYTHING they find appealing. Buy one, buy both, buy what you like. But this cult like behavior from very obvious people is getting old, and it’s childish. Stop the division, we gotta stick together in this community of grown mofos that buy toys. Great video as always Ninja. Keep life plastic ❤
Don’t forget the Classified Only club too. Plenty of YT content makers hate on Vala and his company. They refuse to see how the Action Force line has made Classified better. Good points made by both Ninja and you. The division is pointless.
They will have the doors and roof on the vamp markII and the stinger, you know they will use it for everything they can. With this release they are going pure classic look down to the shovel in the front, that will come off now. I'm getting both
Honestly, if the Vamp comes at a reasonable price ($75-$125) it's a cop from me. But I'm also getting the Vanguard, there's no way imma pass on that. But knowing Haslow's track record, the Vamp is probably gonna be overpriced, j/s
You know I am all in on the vanguards, hoping for multiple colors. But I will definitely get the vamp. it will lead to all the variants, the stinger and so on. I really wish they had done the 4 seater Vamp 2 with the doors.
Yeah the four seater with the removal doors. I’m happy with this offering I just don’t know if comparing the two makes sense at this point. You know. What if it comes under $100. Does that mean Vala should drop his price? It’s a dangerous thing to play that game I feel.
Dang, I didn't even know that Hasbro in planning to release the vamp, no notice from their channel at all geez. Still, Val seems to be more for the buck, and if they can keep it under $200.00, that will force Haslab to do the same and maybe offer more? That troll bit had me laughing hard...good one ^_^
Hasbro probably won't do this but they could do this, but imagine them selling this for 99.99 and then retooling to a Stinger version with figure. for the same price. Then, it's "off to the races" driverless vehicle 2 pack, a Lifeline and Medi-Vamp with extra hands for GIJC figures so you could actually have the Joe's throwing up the Joe Fist, giving a thumbs up\down, saluting. Yeah I know, they'd have to know the difference between ambition and greed.. .... it's fun to imagine I guess
That’s exactly what they will do. We will get the Vamp in that desert color and the stinger. Someone here mentioned the four door version. I hope that comes out too. Plus they should have the smiling to swap out the gun turret for the missles.
Will get them both. Used to drive my First Sgt around when I was in the service. When I get my Valaverse figure I’m going to make a personalized Hasbro figure and drive around General Hawk
In for the Vamp strictly for nostalgic reasons. Was one of the first Joe toys I had as a kid. The Vanguard is a maybe. Space is always a problem when it comes to bigger vehicles and playsets. Considering that Serpentor was $80, I'm placing my bet on $125 for the Vamp. Love that last shot at the end of the video.
There's room for both. I think the competition is actually healthy for both sides. The vamp is total nostalgia for collectors while the Valajeep is something new and exciting for collectors. Both are loaded with accessories and a figure. Both can be used for either Joe or Vala figure lines. And regardless of prices there is people out there who will pay for one or both. I wish both companies luck with these vehicles. (I don't collect vehicles too often) I think Hasbro may be noticing Vala...the quality on the Joe figures really seem to be stepping up... But as I said there's room for both for a healthy competition in the action figure market. If someone told me to pick one whether marvel or DC...Vala or Joe...I'd just tell em to stick it. I'll spend my $$$ on what I want...it's my collection. I like to mix it up. 😜 Great video ninja! Keep up the good words and even making people think sometimes too.
@@ArticulatedNinja both look tight. The closer they can keep the cost to $100/$150 the better! I like both lines so I'm good. But I can't help laughing at the tantrums being thrown!😆😆😆
Compared to the bikes they have put out, I'll be surprised if the vamp isn't closer to 60 or 80. It's great two have two options, and two different types of vehicle. But if that vamp is 120, that's just not worth it when the vanguard is an option if you are only getting one or building a group vehicles.
I completely agree with you!! You have to be a very simple-minded person to believe you can't appreciate both vehicles. Fan-boys just refuse to understand that there is Classified and then there is Hasbro. Yes, Hasbro makes classified. But that doesn't mean you have to bow down. We all love Classified!! And at the same time, we have all question the decision making done at Hasbro. Having an opinion does not equate to hate. I guess a family can't purchase a Honda Odyssey to tote their family around since they already have a Tacoma. They gotta stick with a Toyota Sienna. That $hit is so childish and ignorant. The $hit I find laughable is immature people claiming Vala copied this, and Vala copied that. New flash Hasbro does not own the patent on army men with guns, nor military vehicles. Using that asinine argument, every automotive company copied Benz. Being that it was the first gas powered automobile, every other company should have not tried to duplicate and / or approve on that invention, right??
I’m excited for both….. I just need them both to be in black… also anyone that says you can’t like both needs to get the f out of your life. I hate that so much.
I think you're right about the Vamp being around $120 USD. Serpentor with his Chariot was £80 GBP (~$90 USD?) so while it'd be great for it to be less than £100 I can't see that happening.
Serpentor was an exclusive for Pulsecon in a special fancy display box. It had the convention exclusive tax added to it. That's what drove up the cost so much. If you were to take away the fancy packaging and just base it off the amount of plastic and doodads inside as compared to the flight pod which is priced $55 you'd probably see it's value sitting more around $65.
I just see this as the Vamp being like a infiltration Jeep in the jungle (kinda like the capture vehicles in The Lost World) lol and the Vanguard like a city armored SUV ( like something off of F&F ) or something that brings the rain I’m definitely getting both 2 vanguards and 4 vamps. But I agree I do hope the Vamp and driver is less than 100$
I don't listen to Small-Stax anymore. His negativity has become the entire charter of his channel. I like what I like and I am not required to hate anything I don't. Things I don't buy haven't done anything to hurt me and no one who buys what I don't hasn't hurt me either. That said, I buy both Vala and Hasbro. Heck, I JUST got Covert Ops Condor in today...and if Chuckles goes up for pre-order and he's not sold out...I will get him too. :D My two cents, is the Vamp will be $89-$99. Serpentor with the chariot was $79. A friend of mine has stated that price has a tendency to be dictated by the amount of plastic. That said, I am definitely getting this. It was my first vehicle back in the early 80s.
I agree I just doubt it will be less then 100 Hasbro is greedy the Fortnite boat was over 60 or 80 so a truck from them will be pricey as well it comes with more than the boat they did.
@@ArticulatedNinja True....🤔 But we are talking retail and I think this is what Emily and Vinny said it at sdcc. Is it possible stores like Walmart & target will carry a vehicle for over $100?
I think the vamp set will come in around the $80-$90 mark, and then each repaint release will increase in price (whether they blame inflation or exclusivity or something else). My reasoning is because that fortnite boat was MSRP'd around the $70-$75 mark and that's when hasbro had to pay a cut. This vamp is no licensing fee to someone else, and includes a figure.
I am interested in both the Vanguard and the Vamp. I am really hoping the Vamp does not blow past the one hondo price range, especially given the features and estimated price of the Vanguard. I think the best thing about the Vamp is Hasbro is showing it is willing to put out things bigger than motorcycles and flight pods without resorting to HasLab. Like, maybe one day I will actually get a Classified Thunder Machine
All truth as usual from you man and I gotta say I agree I think it will be over or at the 100 price minimum but we ll see hopefully not but there greed will most likely get the best of them. Thanks for the continued support shad 🙏🏽🔥
Vamp has to be under £70... otherwise makes their Haslabs look like what they are. But why do people want vehicles in this scale... got alot of space lol.
I had a bad experience with the original haul of Valaverse figures from the kickstarter and sold them off and now i just stick with Classified BUT I think its amazing that Valaverse is doing great and has some great ambassadors (AnalogToys and Ninja to name a few) helping to get the word out.
Competition is great for any market and with both companies pushing out great product even if you only collect one you should be happy the other side is doing great as well. Think of the Monday Night Wars in wrestling back in the late 90s as it was some of the best wrestling content put out.
Hell yeah buddy, inhale both my friend and I'll prolly be getting the new classified figs anyways bc Hasbro is giving me two cops
Bobby is a dope ass dude, but he took an L vs the Vamp
Have you tried Valverse again get some new ones they are OK
The first vamp that originally came out didn’t have doors or a top. The second one and the cobra versions were the ones that had doors.
I’m sure the next versions of this will have them. I will most likely pick this up.
The competition between Classified and Action Force is great for us collectors. Your 💯 correct it’s a great time for toy collecting. I hope nothing but the best for both.
I'm guessing the Vamp and Clutch will be around $80-$100. Serpentor was $75 and The Vamp is a bit bigger but a lot of open space since it only has the roll cage. Can't wait to get it.
Comparing it to Serpentor and the Chariot is a good call. Probably close to that range because it may not be an exclusive and the demand isn't as high
@@anthonyramey7917the Serpentor set was upcharged cause of it being a convention exclusive, if anything that was actually closer to the $55 Pulse exclusive tele viper and trouble bubble in my opinion
@@_Kimberlin Possible. It's a little more Beefy than a trouble bubble and Serpentor is a big guy. But I can see your point. I'm hoping that can keep the Vamp close to $60-80 but we are dealing with Hasbro suits.
The two lines complement each other. If vala didnt present his truck its probably we havent got renders of the Vamp. I dont care to compare, if i like it i buy it. Vala make hasbro open his close eyes Vala need to be support as well they do a fantastic job.
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So long as the price is right, and hasbro feels more confident releasing decent mid sized vehicles frequently, I'll be happy. Personally, I'm getting both the Vamp and Vanguard. They'll look great together.
Come on bro, the 'vanguard' looks like a soccer mom's sports car 😂
when i saw this my first reaction was lead scout vehicle (vamp) and support transport (vanguard) they would look together with the right figures so im getting both hoping the vamp's price does not exceed the vanguards price range and crossing fingers whos going to put out a tank and please not crowd funded and nice video waiting for the next one
Thank you 🙏🏽
Good, well-rounded review fam, both are good for what they are. Everything in this review i literally just said on soapbox keep doing your thing fam.
I gotta watch that soapbox man I watch em regularly you know I support ya content man with a view and a like all the time it's great. Thanks for showing some love. 🙏🏽
The VAMP was my first G.I. Joe toy as a kid - a 1982 version new in box with straight-arm Clutch. So nostalgia for that vehicle for me is very high, but even then, the eventual price for this from Hasbro is something I don't trust at the moment. They GOUGE us for everything now, and they seem to revel in that. I'm backing into the hedge on this VAMP until I see a price.
Totally understand and that makes sense, though it would be nice to see sitting next to you on your table as you talk about it so I might have to send you mine lol ( assuming their price doesn't run me off as well ) 😂 hope all is well bro.
Between the price,which we can only speculate with the vamp,and the fact that my toy collection is beginning to take up more room than my wife would like,I will be going with the Vanguard.I can see a nice manageable display with it and my desert rat and troops.
I am honestly considering leaving figure collecting. These prices are freaking wild and they’re getting wilder by the year.
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I'm getting a Vanguard and most likely also getting a VAMP. I think both vehicles have space in my collection. Now, thinking about the pricing for the VAMP and looking at what Hasbro has charged in the past for Star Wars vehicles, I would bet the price will be between 115 and 120, which is not really good but also not terrible.
Keep the great work Ninja!
Thanks and I agree
To me, $115-120 is unreasonable, especially for the bare-bones MkI. (In shops like Target, you can get a really nice quality diecast car of that size for about $40.) I'd have to seriously consider my options if it was that much. I'd probably pass and wait for the Stinger. That's a must buy even if it's overpriced.
The Vamp doesn't need doors because in the cartoons no one ever gets shot. Might as well enjoy the fresh air and breeze while you're out cruising for Cobras! 😉
Really want both, Valaverse's truck is higher on my list for its realism.
I agree
OMG you had to bring up price! I just remember having the Vamp as a kid when it first came out. I was never to big into Joe vehicles since I was more into Transformers which I wanted more, but I had the Vamp. I played with that so much till it broke and was tossed out. I would love to have one again with my current Joe figures. Most likely even if it is over priced, I'll still get it. I had fun with the one I had as a kid.
if you want an “armored vamp” looks at the Vamp MKII, Cobra Stinger, or the Dreadnok Ground Assault. I am sure all these “decos” will come in time :)
Hopefully, it's less than $100. Clutch and the Vamp was my very 1st joe my moms could afford. Vamp is like recon vec or mule. You take her at best to VDOP, better not take her straight into a fight, lmao. Chill video as always. My Joe's and Vala are always standing tall together.
Vanguard will be my main troop transport and the Vamp will be my scout/recon vehicle will definitely have 1 for my sniper squad when Valaverse's gear pack releases
$100 would be perfect for the vamp. 2 -3 vamps on the Frontline wit the motorbikes with the vanguard bringing up the rear with the heavy artillery squad.
I'm planning to get both of these! Well said about the offerings between the two vehicles also!
"Action figure politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low. Fuck McFarlane though" -Henry Kissinger
I want both. Really like the idea of a Vanguard and two Vamps working as a unit together.
If I'm not mistaken, they are going to put this in retail. that said, I hope they don't charge an arm and a leg because I don't see retail stores wanting to sell high priced toys. $89.99-$99.99 tops. Serpentor was high priced because of the fancy box and being an exclusive. Time will tell and I do plan on getting at least 1. og 13 for the win
The Vanguard is an automatic cop for me. The Vamp looks dope and I’ll probably pick one up. I always have love for GI JOE , but MY collecting and world building is more modern military.
I need both though the Vamp will probably be my preferred choice due to the convertible look it has. Hopefully we get a convertible Vanguard eventually.
The doors come off on the Vanguard. I also love both but I can see myself getting three vamps. I want to get two vanguards but that will be dependent on the price as well as colors you’re allowed to pick from.
@@raypaz2947 if we get a gunmetal colored Vanguard then I might get 3. 😅
@@ShinyToyRobots yeah I want to see the color options first. As of now this pea soup color is not working for me
I abused my Vamp M1 as a kid LOL. It was a must have, I love it. But Hasbro 2020 has been great at loosing my trust.
The Vangaurd is honestly twice the vehicle.
Consider this. The Fortnite boat came out at $60. Its about 4" inches lthan my 1:10thscale (bigger than 1:12 scale up) Vamps I printed, and it's got a lot more plastic etc.
I think $75 would be a successful price point for the Vamp M1, and consider this will be a retail release so they will be able to make a lot more.
at >75 I would get it. I think $100+ would be a greedy Hasbro grab.
It does look groovy, I would love to have it. It's held a place in my heart since 82. But we'll see how greedy Hasblow gets LOL.
Very true good points and I agree the vanguard is twice the size and comes with more but we will see what price hasbro set I doubt they will be under 100 if that boat was what it was.
I would rather get the Vamp because its Joes but both look fine.
I have to go with the VAMP because it has one of my most favorite character, "Clutch". I need him in my collection. Nostalgia also hits me as the VAMP is my first vehicle in my childhood. I will buy the VAMP set.
Good point. I am low key putting together the Original 13 in Classified, so Clutch and the upcoming Retro Scarlett bring me two steps closer
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Yo my Man it's like you reached into my brain and took out everything I was wanting to say about all this and you said it so I could not agree more with everything you just said That's exactly I mean exactly what I've been thinking thank you so much for the video and thanks for always saying what I'm thinking out loud I love your channel keep it up man 🙏🙌🙌
I'm more interested in the vanguard, I like the bulk and protection. I might get the vamp and do a mad max build.
Post what it looks like when you get that done. I’d be interested in that
Valaverse and Classified are the Brady Bunch of my collection, the perfect blended family
Original 3 & 3/4 Vamp had no doors. Vamp in my opinion should come in at around $79-$89. The original retail price Hasbro put the Fortnite boat out at was $89 and the boat is much bigger. I know Vamp will be in higher demand than the Fortnite boat but if they keep it at around that price you'll have folks buying more than one.
Do not HOPE for a low price from Hasbro.
DEMAND a low price from Hasbro.
Hasbro does not deserve any leeway considering the shenanigans they pulled on us.
Hasbro increased prices while reducing quality.
Valaverse seems to be lowering prices while increasing quality.
Very true
I get ragged by a chat group I am in cause I like Valaverse and use them with my Joes. I just laugh and keep doing me cause I buy what I like, regardless. Thanks for another great video.
🙏🏽 thanks and you got "ragged" by small minded individuals
I'll be getting both. I'm excited for the vamp it was my first joe vehicle. They're both different vehicles like you said. I'm 100% with you ninja there's nothing wrong with liking both. I'm always catching flak for defending valaverse. I don't get the whole fight I'm with you about building a cool as looking military display. When you were a kid didn't you mash up all your toys and just play that's how I see it now. Give .e all the military figures so I can have a better play experience.
So much to unpack here. While I'm not a fanboy for either manufacturer, in this case, Hasbro vs Valaverse, I have a bunch of figures from both manufacturers and love them both. I think my choice (if I even get it) would be the Vamp. For me, I would have to decide on one over the other for financial reasons.
Aside from the financial portion, I have the Hiss tank coming, and another big concern I have is how the Vanguard would scale with the Hiss and I suspect it's going to be huge.
Lastly, depending on the price of the Vamp, I would choose it over the Vanguard for nostalgic reasons. I had the Vamp as a kid and nostalgia is like 90% of why I collect this stuff.
Ninja you're out there putting the assassination on them haters!! Keep it up 💯 💯 💯 Vehicles are something the community has been asking for. The Vamp looks cool but I'm betting the Vanguard will be a better overall offer. I'm likely going to get both unless the price ends up being crazy on the Vamp.
Nothing against Bobby. He is making amazing products! I am just a G.I. Joe nastolga 80s kid.
The Vamp has always basically been a Jeep, and Vamp Mark I never had doors. It's doing precisely what it's supposed to do.
The one thing that the VAMP has over the Vanguard is that it is the VAMP. Oh, and it comes with Clutch. If I had to choose one, I'd take the VAMP and Clutch because if I was collecting Classified it would be to rebuild my 80s Joe collection. The VAMP scratches that itch, the Vanguard doesn't.
I really don't understand why you emphasize so much the vehicle capacity of the Vanguard; holding more figures isn't inherently better. As you said, these are two very different vehicles with two different jobs. The VAMP is what it has always been. If I want a FANG copter, I don't care if a competing helicopter holds 7 figures, but if I am looking for a troop carrier that would be a factor.
Both vehicles look great. If you have the space and money, there's no reason you can't or shouldn't buy both.
I emphasized size and storage for price projection comparisons ones way bigger than the other that's all.
Great job as always Ninja! 👍👍
I have a feeling Hasbro will surprise us with the price of the VAMP. I'm going to guess 89.99. The Trouble bubble at $54.99 and Serpentor at $79.99 would be decent comps. Considering Serpentor was some con exclusive, I'd say this vehicle is near that price.
It's about 3x the size of the air chariot so has more plastic and accessories I doubt it will be less than 100 but ofcourse I'd want it to be as well.
The Vanguard is like a damn Escalade and the Vamp is a Jeep Wrangler. Hopefully, the Vamp is priced accordingly.
Either way, I will get both. Gen. Hawk's convoy will need both!!
Keep it up Ninja.
On a side note. I'm stacking up on these Polaris remote control jeeps that Articulated Ninja made a video about. I found seven of them for $3 each at a thrift store. I wish I can find a Canon instead of using these small guns from final faction. But they're going to look real good next to my hiss tanks and crimson army.
I've not gotten any of those yet, but even online at full price they are hard to beat, and can be customized
Nice score man that price is a crazy good deal.
Good review. The Vamp will be the one i choose. I don't have a lot of space for a Vanguard.
The Vamp has huge nostalgic vibes for me. I still have a 1/18 scale Vamp on my shelf. I can't see this jeep being over $100. For sure people will be buying multiples.
If I’m getting one it’ll probably be classified series, for me it’s not about putting figures inside the car but having an open space to view the figures, that said if the price is too high for what it is I’ll probably go valaverse
Just let me live in this head space for a moment. HASBRO delivers a VAMP for $75 similar in content to the MacFarlane Batmobile. No bells, no whistles. Just a basic VAMP like in the 80's, but with doors. It will absolutely sell! If they cross $100, say in the $125 range, and it's gonna be a peg warming disaster.
Again you bring valuable information and points i am going to get both of them great video
🙏🏽 thanks for hearing me out
My biggest pet peeve with VAMP is the fact there is no room for a figure to sit and operate the machinegun. One does not simply puts a machine gun in a vehicle without putting a place for him to sit down.
I hope I can get a Vanguard in the future.
Thanks for the video.
The Vamp is the right move for Hasbro's first foray into mainline vehicles (Aside from motorbikes). It has served on both sides in the GI Joe conflict, its chassis has had multiple configurations and colour schemes for reissue and it's small enough that it won't be a space hog. That being said I hope that the price does not go above $120 and in an ideal world it will be $90 for a bare bones offering.
If Hasbro goes the extra mile and adds in some bells and whistles like rubber tires, an accessible engine area with detailed engine, turning front wheels with working suspension and the like, then we can start looking at $120.
Regardless, we can only look and speculate at the moment. Here's hoping they make a wise choice for themselves and all collectors alike.
Thank you very much for your video Articulated Ninja 👍
Glad i subbed to this channel
Plastic is plastic - so I’ll most likely purchase the Vamp - but I’m happy for those who purchase the Vanguard - I’m thinking 80$ to 100$ for the Vamp, plus Clutch
Yeah that’s my guesstimate as well. I’d be shocked if it went over $120. Im hoping they make an announcement soon which would mean Vala will have to bring that car down to the lowest of the price range.
The Vanguard looks way better but the vamp is a good addition as well, as long as it's not to expensive.
No doubt the Hasbro product will cost more and be smaller, however a lot of people will be buying the Vamp because we had it when we were kids.
True it's all about nostalgia for many
Thank you for addressing the stupid way. People are thinking about these vehicles and hating on Valaverse. I like both of the vehicles I think they are two completely different products though.
I guess you didn’t hear but I only collect Funko Pops now. You with me? Or against me???
You need to choose a side 😡
I'm with you till death do us part ♥️ pops for life.
I can’t wait for these. The vanguard with like 2 - 3 vamps along side it. Add that to my modded halo warthog and I’m good to go. Can not wait!!!
If the Vamp is $75 or less I’m getting two minimum. More if it’s cheaper. The vanguard is a must for sure. Also. F that noise. Like what you like and mix and match as to see fit. Enjoy your hobby.
I'm estimating a price of around $90-95, and even that would be overcharging a bit. It's not as large or as complex as the Black Series Snowspeeder, which was $115. It's quite simplistic. Just a basic chassis, two seats and some accessories. It doesn't have much more mass than two Ram Cycles. If they don't get greedy with the price, they could sell fifty thousand of these.
Interested in both but price will ultimately be the main factor for me. Depends on when and what my finances are for both. I can’t say until they drop. It’s entirely possible one could drop at a time I can handle it and the other doesn’t. I’ve not got my heart settled on either because of that.
dude, you are an artist, I love your dioramas and that glorious lighting you use...beautiful, they look like still shots taken from a movie. love your content, and yes that is true, you can love many different things in life, those crybabies just need to get one and stop worrying about others' opinions so much. awesome vid as always.
I know his videos are like nothing we have seen before & those crybabies just keep making comparison videos on vehicles that arent even out yet! Crazy world we live in!
@@patientmental875 agreed
right on bro !guys lets just enjoy this ride! great time to be an action figure collector! woooo!
Facts ninja! Idk why “they” get butt hurt 😅 but u doing great work filling us in!
The VAMP needs to be less than $80.
The VAMP is less than half the size of the Valaverse truck.
It’s starting to get kinda culty with the Vala only club. Everybody should be buying ANYTHING they find appealing. Buy one, buy both, buy what you like.
But this cult like behavior from very obvious people is getting old, and it’s childish. Stop the division, we gotta stick together in this community of grown mofos that buy toys. Great video as always Ninja. Keep life plastic ❤
Don’t forget the Classified Only club too. Plenty of YT content makers hate on Vala and his company. They refuse to see how the Action Force line has made Classified better. Good points made by both Ninja and you. The division is pointless.
Thank you 🙏🏽
They will have the doors and roof on the vamp markII and the stinger, you know they will use it for everything they can. With this release they are going pure classic look down to the shovel in the front, that will come off now. I'm getting both
Good point
i know its dreaming but if they could somehow compete with todd and sell it for 80-100$ that would break the toy world.
Absolutely no contest, the vamp wins hands down. That said I think the Vanguard is cool and I have no problem with others who are not me wanting one
One is a jeep the other is an assault SUV. I'm looking forward to the Mad max/Zombie customs of these.
I cannot wait to mod em 🤣
Honestly, if the Vamp comes at a reasonable price ($75-$125) it's a cop from me. But I'm also getting the Vanguard, there's no way imma pass on that. But knowing Haslow's track record, the Vamp is probably gonna be overpriced, j/s
True
Dude I'm so glad you said "stupid ninja" because I thought you were gonna go somewhere else with that one lol.
You know I am all in on the vanguards, hoping for multiple colors. But I will definitely get the vamp. it will lead to all the variants, the stinger and so on. I really wish they had done the 4 seater Vamp 2 with the doors.
Yeah the four seater with the removal doors. I’m happy with this offering I just don’t know if comparing the two makes sense at this point. You know. What if it comes under $100. Does that mean Vala should drop his price? It’s a dangerous thing to play that game I feel.
I respect you sir 💯
Dang, I didn't even know that Hasbro in planning to release the vamp, no notice from their channel at all geez.
Still, Val seems to be more for the buck, and if they can keep it under $200.00, that will force Haslab to do the same and maybe offer more?
That troll bit had me laughing hard...good one ^_^
🙏🏽 thanks and i agree
A Vamp with doors exists, its called the Cobra Stinger.
Hasbro probably won't do this but they could do this, but imagine them selling this for 99.99 and then retooling to a Stinger version with figure. for the same price. Then, it's "off to the races" driverless vehicle 2 pack, a Lifeline and Medi-Vamp with extra hands for GIJC figures so you could actually have the Joe's throwing up the Joe Fist, giving a thumbs up\down, saluting. Yeah I know, they'd have to know the difference between ambition and greed.. .... it's fun to imagine I guess
That’s exactly what they will do. We will get the Vamp in that desert color and the stinger. Someone here mentioned the four door version. I hope that comes out too. Plus they should have the smiling to swap out the gun turret for the missles.
Will get them both. Used to drive my First Sgt around when I was in the service. When I get my Valaverse figure I’m going to make a personalized Hasbro figure and drive around General Hawk
In for the Vamp strictly for nostalgic reasons. Was one of the first Joe toys I had as a kid. The Vanguard is a maybe. Space is always a problem when it comes to bigger vehicles and playsets. Considering that Serpentor was $80, I'm placing my bet on $125 for the Vamp. Love that last shot at the end of the video.
I’m so excited to be collecting both these lines. It’s a great time to be collecting AF and Joes!
Think $175 for any vehicle is nuts
As a comic guy anyone over 30 I actually don’t personally know anyone who picks sides . That’s just dumb that’s a new thing I’m seeing
There's room for both. I think the competition is actually healthy for both sides. The vamp is total nostalgia for collectors while the Valajeep is something new and exciting for collectors. Both are loaded with accessories and a figure. Both can be used for either Joe or Vala figure lines. And regardless of prices there is people out there who will pay for one or both. I wish both companies luck with these vehicles. (I don't collect vehicles too often)
I think Hasbro may be noticing Vala...the quality on the Joe figures really seem to be stepping up... But as I said there's room for both for a healthy competition in the action figure market.
If someone told me to pick one whether marvel or DC...Vala or Joe...I'd just tell em to stick it. I'll spend my $$$ on what I want...it's my collection. I like to mix it up. 😜
Great video ninja! Keep up the good words and even making people think sometimes too.
Haters can pick all the sides they want, I'm buying what I can afford and have space for. . .
Just glad it isn't a crowdfund item.
Very true I'm glad either are not crowdfunds.
@@ArticulatedNinja both look tight.
The closer they can keep the cost to $100/$150 the better! I like both lines so I'm good. But I can't help laughing at the tantrums being thrown!😆😆😆
Competition…FINALLY! This drives quality and a desire for the consumers money 🔥🙌😁
Compared to the bikes they have put out, I'll be surprised if the vamp isn't closer to 60 or 80.
It's great two have two options, and two different types of vehicle. But if that vamp is 120, that's just not worth it when the vanguard is an option if you are only getting one or building a group vehicles.
Serpentor was 80 so this will be more most likely
I completely agree with you!! You have to be a very simple-minded person to believe you can't appreciate both vehicles.
Fan-boys just refuse to understand that there is Classified and then there is Hasbro. Yes, Hasbro makes classified. But that doesn't mean you have to bow down.
We all love Classified!! And at the same time, we have all question the decision making done at Hasbro. Having an opinion does not equate to hate.
I guess a family can't purchase a Honda Odyssey to tote their family around since they already have a Tacoma. They gotta stick with a Toyota Sienna.
That $hit is so childish and ignorant. The $hit I find laughable is immature people claiming Vala copied this, and Vala copied that. New flash Hasbro does not own the patent on army men with guns, nor military vehicles.
Using that asinine argument, every automotive company copied Benz. Being that it was the first gas powered automobile, every other company should have not tried to duplicate and / or approve on that invention, right??
Good point
I’m excited for both….. I just need them both to be in black… also anyone that says you can’t like both needs to get the f out of your life. I hate that so much.
I think you're right about the Vamp being around $120 USD. Serpentor with his Chariot was £80 GBP (~$90 USD?) so while it'd be great for it to be less than £100 I can't see that happening.
Good points I hope they don't go more than 130
Serpentor release 3 cost me 72$ US
Serpentor was an exclusive for Pulsecon in a special fancy display box. It had the convention exclusive tax added to it. That's what drove up the cost so much. If you were to take away the fancy packaging and just base it off the amount of plastic and doodads inside as compared to the flight pod which is priced $55 you'd probably see it's value sitting more around $65.
@@Marneus28 it got released two more times on pulse 72$
I just see this as the Vamp being like a infiltration Jeep in the jungle (kinda like the capture vehicles in The Lost World) lol and the Vanguard like a city armored SUV ( like something off of F&F ) or something that brings the rain I’m definitely getting both 2 vanguards and 4 vamps. But I agree I do hope the Vamp and driver is less than 100$
Im hoping $79.99
Cool this is the first I'm seeing this Vamp. Knowing Corporate greed I think it will probably be between $150.00 - $175.00
Unfortunately I think you may be right smh that's gonna suck
Great thoughts Sir 👍
Thanks hunt master 🙏🏽 hope all is well with you bro
I don't listen to Small-Stax anymore. His negativity has become the entire charter of his channel. I like what I like and I am not required to hate anything I don't. Things I don't buy haven't done anything to hurt me and no one who buys what I don't hasn't hurt me either. That said, I buy both Vala and Hasbro. Heck, I JUST got Covert Ops Condor in today...and if Chuckles goes up for pre-order and he's not sold out...I will get him too. :D
My two cents, is the Vamp will be $89-$99. Serpentor with the chariot was $79. A friend of mine has stated that price has a tendency to be dictated by the amount of plastic. That said, I am definitely getting this. It was my first vehicle back in the early 80s.
🤣 small stax 😂🤣 but yea good points though I don't see it being cheaper than 100 I can sure hope it will be as well
This is also good, because it will encourage a lower price for both vehicles.
Hell yea! Damn right!!!!
I hope $80 to $100 I would get two of them. I can't wait to see vala paint his because I think they will coexist well yeah😃✨
I agree I just doubt it will be less then 100 Hasbro is greedy the Fortnite boat was over 60 or 80 so a truck from them will be pricey as well it comes with more than the boat they did.
@@ArticulatedNinja True....🤔
But we are talking retail and I think this is what Emily and Vinny said it at sdcc. Is it possible stores like Walmart & target will carry a vehicle for over $100?
when and where are u able to get it?
I missed the VAMP nice to see its coming.
I think the vamp set will come in around the $80-$90 mark, and then each repaint release will increase in price (whether they blame inflation or exclusivity or something else).
My reasoning is because that fortnite boat was MSRP'd around the $70-$75 mark and that's when hasbro had to pay a cut. This vamp is no licensing fee to someone else, and includes a figure.
The Vamp is supposed to be coming out in retail so I can’t think it’ll be over $100