Every time I see Pebbles’ name, it always take me to the TLC situation. TLC easily had one of the worst recording contracts ever just to think about it.
Looking back at the 90s, it's probably the decade with the worst possible record contracts. So many big names from the 90s and even early 00s got screwed out of everything because of their contracts.
I'm not saying this is what happened, but I'm tired of people getting screwed over by the industry, making it, and then screwing over someone else. Break the cycle already!
TRUTH! I'm glad Vanessa Williams redeemed herself in so many ways. Regardless of her issues with L.A. Reid, at least Vanessa created some great music with Babyface! ❤️
We have to get comfortable calling mean, selfish, or even evil people exactly what they are without offering excuses for them. They are what they are until they choose to be different.
Pebbles was beautiful but cold blooded. What she did to Vanessa Williams was a trip. The record changed her life but thankfully Williams was able to bounce back. The thing with TLC wasn't their deal it was the fact that Pebbles didn't wanna renegotiate the deal. Those kinds of deal are standard after a successful debut you're supposed to renegotiate Pebbles didn't wanna do that thus led to them not making as money as they should've. TLC made money but if you make 75 mil and only see 300 thousand after its all said and done something ain't right.
Well karma is a bitch because Vanessa Williams career and fame went waaaaaaay further then Pebbles and she got way more hits.Then became a real good actress in hit movies.
My lord!!! my sweet pea Pebbles. i remember reading that LA times article back then and was going to reach out. I wrote a letter to her but never mailed it. Soon after i was sitting behind Ms. V. Williams at a Soul train Music awards show. I had to tell her to turn her ass back around for the way she spoke to me. The person making these docu video things if you ever come across Ms. McKissack ask her what does she think about Cam'ron Giles? lol
I love this series! Now I’m DEFINITELY gonna need one on Vanessa Williams after hearing that tidbit about here. Pebbles has some good hits! “Giving You The Benefit” is a BANGER.
i never really looked into what went wrong between TLC and Perri "pebbles at the time but one thing is for sure TLC was really special not only were they creative they could sing and they were beautiful in a natural way !
Alot of people don't know the whole story about what went wrong with Pebbles & TLC..Pebbles was only with TLC for ONE albulm..When TLC went broke and filed for bankruptcy ..Pebbles wasn't managing them.anymore . The higher source was the main one who stole money from TLC ...that main source was CLIVE DAVIS .
That happens a lot in the music industry. Music producers or executives will promise a song to one artist and then go behind their back and give it to someone else without telling the original artist it was promised to. It’s usually done in a very dirty underhanded shady way. Take for instance Leona Lewis. Calvin Harris offered the song “We Found Love”to her but then ditched her for Rihanna. The fucked up part about it is that Leona already recorded the song and was expecting to release it. Neither Calvin nor Rihanna felt any shame in taking it because they deemed her as beneath Rihanna in terms of star power. Another good example is Jennifer Lopez and Chante’ Moore. Rodney Jerkins gave Chante’ a song called “ If I Gave You Love”. Diddy heard it and demanded that the song be given to Jennifer. Jennifer had such a machine around her so much so that Chante’ couldn’t fight it. That’s how we ended up with “ If You Had My Love”.
Doggone shame no matter how talented some artists are, their personal drama always overshadows their music. Speaking of Cherelle, hopefully we get a video on her next.
Let's point out that Charlie Wilson produced Mercedes Boy and providing backing vocals (listen close in the chorus and you can hear him).....Yeah, I had time during quarantine two years ago!
While I have mixed feelings about Perri "Pebbles" Reid, I won't deny her talent as a singer. Her hits Girlfriend and Mercedes Boy are STILL classics. Let's not forget Charlie Wilson's stellar background vocals on her debut album! ❣️
@@TheDetroitblack Wait a minute now. I was only referring to the FEW hits she had. Otherwise, she and L.A. Reid were ruthless in how they treated TLC. I've ALWAYS stood by them.
@@danavixen6274 many artists had those horrible contracts back then that situation was unfortunate but that was happening to artists before tlc as well .
Pebbles is born hustler from hustle-town USA, Oakland CA. Folks around her taught her that her looks and game could get her far and that's wha she did, used her game to get in the music biz (snatching Vanessa Williams song), getting $$$ and paying to produce her own work and edit her videos and basically making her own way. She became successful through her hustle obvious not her decent but limited singing talent. She wasn't trying to be Whitney or ther pro vocalists, she was trying to get paid.
@@reimourrpower9357 YES, this is the response I was looking for! You understand the game. Pebbles was smart I'll give her that and wasn't trying to be America's sweetheart or whatever.
Yes and he was a hot mess. He thought he was hot and arrogant boy you just come from a wealthy family that helps cover a multitude of non attractive looks and faults lol
@@kevinpayton2664 exactly these industry kids grow up entitled half of the time they don't have any real talents of their own in some cases so they live through others and expect everybody to bow down to them I hated all of those kids acting like ungrateful spoiled brats I remember the Timbaland episode where his son was upset over a car he just thought his dad would buy him the one he wanted and he had to do nothing for it a lot of the celebrity children do grow up entitled spoiled and don't work for anything but their parents did so they feel some sense of entitlement smh .
@@kevinpayton2664 they don't know how to be grateful I bet that tune would change real quick if they had to earn anything that's given instead of it being handed to them on a silver platter I never got a car at 16 at all .
There’s something very narcissistic and mean-spirited about that woman. She’s a beautiful woman, but the issue is.. she knows it and I think it caused her to always feel very entitled. I know biopics aren’t always 100 percent true… some things are tweaked, left out or thrown in for creative liberties. However, that scene where Pebbles is instantly jealous of Chilli’s beauty and accuses chilli of being “threatened by her” when pebbles was the one who was threatened… I believe that happened. Pebbles does seem like the type who cannot stand any type of competition.
agreed...that why she bullshitted vanessa out that song and she went out her way to get close to la reid so she could marry him which she new would give her power in the industry so she could move forward and be be blackhearted and bullshit people....
I Heard Very Little About The Issue With TLC But I Know Every Recording Artist Gets SCREWED In Their 1st Contract. This Broad Is Crazy And I Do Believe She Is A Narcissist. Narcissist Are INCAPABLE Of ❤️ Anyone BEYOND Themselves
Well one thing YOU can say for sure is that she believed in herself if she spent $18,000 and 2 cars for one song. She had a lot of great collaborations. It's too bad what happened to TLC. As a woman she should have done those girls right. That left a sour taste in everyone's mouth.
As a kid I loved Pebbles! My mom let me have her "Always" CD and I played it till I couldn't play it anymore lol 🤣 32 years later and it still jams! I hate what happened Between her and TLC tho..😒
@@Team90sBABE exactly the artists should read what they sign in fine print if they don't understand then they should have someone present to break down the contract to them before the ink dries.
@@Team90sBABE they aren't the only people that it happened to either many older artists had it way worse from stolen publishing to fake writer credits even En vogue had a terrible contract.
Pebbles reminds me of when my mother once said, "Don't let your talent take you somewhere your character can't keep you." A talented, beautiful, ambitious woman yet... Eh, at the end of the day, I can bump Always and Love Makes You Do Some Crazy Things all night 'cause as trifling as she was, she put out some good music. lol
T-Boz and Left Eye were not responsible for tryna kick Chilli out. If you’re a real TLC fan, you remember a special they did years ago when Lisa first passed called What It’s Like on VH1. T-Boz wasn’t even at the auditions for the replacement girl because her mother drop a bed on her foot that same day and cut her toe off. I’ll never forget the special. Chilli had braids in, they were in Atlanta visiting all their old spots like the skating rink, Kandi was on it in the studio with them because she wrote “Girl Talk” from the 3D album. They even visited their old jobs like the salon and the restaurant.
It may have not been about the girls trying to kick Chilli out. Chilli was recording a solo album with Babyface as a producer before their last album with Lisa (alive) came out. I think that was 3D. I remember Babyface talking about how he was recording with Chilli for her solo project which she dropped as soon as this TLC project started.
@@brownin329 Pebbles wanted Chilli outta the group during their first era because she was with Dallas Austin. She says it was Left Eye & T-Boz, but that’s not true.
@EricRebelChild Even Dallas confirmed that the other girls didn’t want Chilli out of the group, it was Pebbles. At one point, Pebbles was holding auditions to find a replacement for Chilli
This channel gives sooooo much tea…and I’m here for all of it. “Giving you the benefit” is still a great song that has held up really well. SN: Looks like her 5th marriage was the charm. If at first you don’t succeed 🤷🏾♂️🤣
I don't ever remember Pebbles being a stand-out back in the day but I do associate her with TLC ❤️❤️❤️. Those 3 young sisters were railroaded because nothing really was broken down(fine print)for them to understand. As far as the movie, I believe that was a hands-on thing with T-boz and Chilli sooo I bet it was actual & factual.
This was good, I was just getting started and then it ended lol. We need a movie after seeing this. I can't believe she packed up his girlfriends stuff! She sounds like a determined woman........
She won her defamation suit against that movie!I don’t think she did them dirty.They let other people get into their heads and that’s when things feel apart.She claims that she spent money on them and groom them for a year before we even heard of them.She put them together!Even in that movie they depicted a scene to where Pebbles was trying to renegotiate their second album and they declined.Left Eye came back and spoke highly of her.
I think, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, the defamation suit was more about some of the dramatic parts added into the TLC movie. Either way, I don't think she'll own up to it soon unless she wants some attention. I know this because she blocked me on Twitter just a few months ago for resharing an old meme about her in the TLC movie😂 Pebbles can't face reality because she was so used to getting her way fron her looks. Even now, her and her false doctrine just lying on God and His word will get her in trouble. Pride comes before the fall, and her fall was and is great and mighty just like her pride.
@@Cocoarunway I snort laughed 😂🤣😂🤣 we'll have to wait and see if she gets on her Facebook live sermons saying "it's God's will" for her to have more Chanel bags🤣🤣🤣
Because there is ALWAYS money in Christianity. Always. They are always willing to forgive not matter what as long as you are stronghold on professing your faith. I think majority of the time it’s disingenuous it’s just the only route they can take…
Babyface wanted Girlfriend for Vanessa Williams but LA Reid wanted nothing to do with Vanessa Williams so Peebles got to record the song But Vanessa Williams had many hit records tv shows and movies
What I notice about all these stories is these men LOVE chaos! They say they want an easy breezy girl, just go with the flow, but they really want ladies destroying furniture and fighting other ladies or doing more crazy things. The ladies who don’t do that are “boring” or last resort. How backwards
Well I have a cousin that used to work in the industry & she also worked with Pebbles & TLC. The producers of the TLC documentary contacted my cousin & asked her if she wanted to participate in the documentary she said NO. This is one of the reasons she left the industry. She didn’t like Pebbles either. Hmmm that’s all I can say.
Those stories that came from the TLC camp and other people about her were never nice but Mercedes Boy.. Always.. And Love makes things happen takes me right back to my childhood.... This is r&b music. Period. Whatever has happened (there are alot of old school drama beefs lol) you can't take her moment in time.
Drama/ tea aside, Pebbles had a really great album I played over and over back in the day. "Girlfriend" and "Mercedes Boy" are still jams. And she gave us TLC - an incredible gift to music.
Great video as always! I really didn't know that much about Peebles other than TLC stuff, absolutely had no idea on the Vanessa Williams stuff. Have you ever thought about covering Mel B from the Spice Girls? She's had a wild life that's a great story to tell.
Yup but I blame the simps,that still wanna marry her. She has trophy looks . This left a lot out but it was good for what could fit in a ten minute spin, Lol
🎶Backyard was playing in my head the other day, then this showed up in my feed. Good job on telling her full (yet compressed) story with objectivity! It highlights how petty the people are who only focus on one part and "ignore" the redemptive part. God bless!
I love her songs “Mercedes Boy”,”Girlfriend” & “Giving You The Benefit” 🎶🎶 ❤️ “do you wanna ride in my Mercedes? Riiide”.. Pebbles is beautiful but she’s a looney toon 4 real. For years she believed Chilli was involved w/ her ex husband when that wasn’t true & that was her jealousy talking..& TLC wouldn’t lie on Pebbles like that. She was very controlling..& I always hated that she went on Wendy & instead of setting the record straight she just lied some more & even had her own daughter in the mix smh
Kids were horrible to me. They'd call my hair "peter rican" and put pencils in my waves. I never could bring myself to sit with the black kids at the bus stop because they talked so much shit about me. I remember the last day of 6th grade and I was so disappointed that I never had the courage to sit down with them. Disappointed and relieved. 😂 They would call me poor because I didn't press my hair or wear Filas but yet they were the ones with the free lunch tickets. 🥴
Correction: Pebbles is not the product of two black parents. She’s the product of two biracial parents, which would also make her biracial, a second-generation biracial, more specifically. Other than that, it was a good video.
Great 80s/early 90s pop/R&B artist but that TLC thing was messy! Lol according to L.A., when Whitney Houston was over his house (with Robyn in tow lol) as the work on WH’s I’m Your Baby Tonight was underway, she thought he was messing with her. However, when she went to confront Whitney, it was said Nippy politely got her together. The next thing that happened, Whitney and Pebbles became BFFs. True story. 😅
@0:43 you said " pebble is the product of two blaque parents who each had a white parent" Seems to me that her parents were biracial, not blaque; which is why she looks biracial.
0:37 _"Pebbles, who is light-skinned, and the product of two Black parents who each have one White parent-"_ No disrespect intended, but if both of her parents "each have one White parent", then wouldn't that make her parents _bi-racial?_ So Pebbles herself would be mixed.
She had a few a great songs I loved as a child BUT I'm a firm believer of the industry life shining a light on people's ugly ways which already existed. Just saying.
Love your series so much, found the channel last month and already watched all the videos 💜 I don't know if anyone else ever recommended this for an upcoming video, but it would be really interesting to see one about Sugababes and their history (they had like five line-up changes)
I think she already did. Once she lost TLC, her relationship with L.A. went south, and her life started to crumble from that point till she went back to YAH.
I'm REALLY GLAD, Pebbles got it RIGHT in The End, Though. 💯💯👏🏾👏🏾 And I 'Humbly' 🙏🏾🙏🏾 PRAY while She is Living her Life Now, that She 'TRULY' asked for Repentance, and Salvation From Our LORD, ✝️✝️🕊️🕊️ Jesus Christ Of Nazareth. AMEN. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💯💯
Same here! I definitely enjoyed her music, but Pebbles sounds extremely shady. If you listen to this documentary, it sounds like she didn't care who she hurt to get what SHE wanted!
I think I missed who here second husband was. She got married to her child’s father, which lasted a year, but when the video got to the part about her getting with LA, it says she was still married to her second husband. I paused the video to make this comment so if it’s explained later, please disregard lol
They didn’t expand on it, but I read other comments over the years that said that she was married to an older, successful Oakland contractor *George L. Smith* between the time she was with her first husband and L.A. He was the one who helped her finance her career with demos and such. I’m guessing he was the one that help her pay to get “Girlfriend.” She left him after she started seeing L.A.
Peebles was and still is pretty. She definitely had some bops my fav Love Makes things Happen with Babyface. Pastor Peebles mmmm🤔 yeah okay we haven't forgot about TLC and Toni Braxton.
Her song “Always” one of my favorite song. I’m glad she found Religion. If she did TLC wrong or Con there Contract back in the day. She needs to make peace with TLC. That I hope she did.
My mother loved her some Pebbles. She loved Mercedes Boy & Girlfriend. Like listened to it when I was a little kid years after it ever came out! Lol she’s a beautiful woman but man she has (had) some character flaws big times!
When it comes to the light skin "complaints"...Children in the community play the dozens and it is not always pretty. However, "the dozens" (teasing and other struggles) with fair complexion Children ends and they become pedestalized. With dark children who become adults, especially dark women, "the dozens" never end!!! 😐
I don't know about that. Pedestalized usually includes some type of abuse. Build you up to knock you down. Pedestalize yourself, don't wait on someone to tell you, you're worthy. You got to know it regardless of what they think❤❤❤❤.
Every time I see Pebbles’ name, it always take me to the TLC situation. TLC easily had one of the worst recording contracts ever just to think about it.
Agree
Facts #riplefteye❤️
Their contracts were no different than most of the industry acts.
Looking back at the 90s, it's probably the decade with the worst possible record contracts. So many big names from the 90s and even early 00s got screwed out of everything because of their contracts.
Them and bad boy artists 🤷♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏿♀️
I'm not saying this is what happened, but I'm tired of people getting screwed over by the industry, making it, and then screwing over someone else. Break the cycle already!
Hurt people hurt people no matter the environment, circumstance or tax bracket. I would love to see the cycle end too.
TRUTH! I'm glad Vanessa Williams redeemed herself in so many ways. Regardless of her issues with L.A. Reid, at least Vanessa created some great music with Babyface! ❤️
We have to get comfortable calling mean, selfish, or even evil people exactly what they are without offering excuses for them. They are what they are until they choose to be different.
@@MPPG663 Yes
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Pebbles was beautiful but cold blooded. What she did to Vanessa Williams was a trip. The record changed her life but thankfully Williams was able to bounce back. The thing with TLC wasn't their deal it was the fact that Pebbles didn't wanna renegotiate the deal. Those kinds of deal are standard after a successful debut you're supposed to renegotiate Pebbles didn't wanna do that thus led to them not making as money as they should've. TLC made money but if you make 75 mil and only see 300 thousand after its all said and done something ain't right.
What did pebbles do to Vanessa Williams? From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Hell naw, something ain't right.... They could've did waaay better than that! TF
Well karma is a bitch because Vanessa Williams career and fame went waaaaaaay further then Pebbles and she got way more hits.Then became a real good actress in hit movies.
My lord!!! my sweet pea Pebbles. i remember reading that LA times article back then and was going to reach out. I wrote a letter to her but never mailed it. Soon after i was sitting behind Ms. V. Williams at a Soul train Music awards show. I had to tell her to turn her ass back around for the way she spoke to me. The person making these docu video things if you ever come across Ms. McKissack ask her what does she think about Cam'ron Giles? lol
What happened with Vanessa? I wasn't aware. I knew about tlc though
The fact pebbles called chili “Loose” && hustled TLC outta money. She was Diddy before Diddy tbh
Chili called herself loose too she admitted to being wild back then.
Pebbles was amoral and lower than a snakes belly. Don’t be fooled by the pretty face.
I love this series! Now I’m DEFINITELY gonna need one on Vanessa Williams after hearing that tidbit about here. Pebbles has some good hits! “Giving You The Benefit” is a BANGER.
Me too!
Her debut album is good too.
I can’t lie giving you the benefit is always one of my favs from her
@@christines1821 Yes!!!!!
And always
i never really looked into what went wrong between TLC and Perri "pebbles at the time but one thing is for sure TLC was really special not only were they creative they could sing and they were beautiful in a natural way !
One word..GREED
Alot of people don't know the whole story about what went wrong with Pebbles & TLC..Pebbles was only with TLC for ONE albulm..When TLC went broke and filed for bankruptcy ..Pebbles wasn't managing them.anymore . The higher source was the main one who stole money from TLC ...that main source was CLIVE DAVIS .
Just watch the movie. They were involved with making that movie about their life. It will tell you exactly what happened
She robbed tlc.
@@Ladyharlem Clive Davis robbed TLC.
The late '80s and early '90s R&B will always be a great period of time in music.
YAASS!! FACTS!!🔥🔥🔥
💯🙌🏽🔥🔥❤️Yes!
I would never leave my purse unattended around Pebbles.
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
😆😆😆😆
Damn now that’s good shade.
@gray chips *Judgment
@gray chips *You
Five marriages, that is a Lifetime movie right there. Somebody needs to make that happen. I would watch.
She must have been cheating on them with my dad in 89' cuz we went skiing and hella stuff. This is crazy!
That happens a lot in the music industry. Music producers or executives will promise a song to one artist and then go behind their back and give it to someone else without telling the original artist it was promised to. It’s usually done in a very dirty underhanded shady way. Take for instance Leona Lewis. Calvin Harris offered the song “We Found Love”to her but then ditched her for Rihanna. The fucked up part about it is that Leona already recorded the song and was expecting to release it. Neither Calvin nor Rihanna felt any shame in taking it because they deemed her as beneath Rihanna in terms of star power. Another good example is Jennifer Lopez and Chante’ Moore. Rodney Jerkins gave Chante’ a song called “ If I Gave You Love”. Diddy heard it and demanded that the song be given to Jennifer. Jennifer had such a machine around her so much so that Chante’ couldn’t fight it. That’s how we ended up with “ If You Had My Love”.
Doggone shame no matter how talented some artists are, their personal drama always overshadows their music.
Speaking of Cherelle, hopefully we get a video on her next.
you think pebbles was talented?
@@jakemiles1427 😭😭😭😭She had hits though.
@@lynej2011 True 🤣🤣🤣
@@jakemiles1427 I mean she wrote her biggest hit! 🤷🏾♂️😂
Cherelle was a little ahead of her time. Everything Janet was able to accomplish was originally gonna be Cherelle lol least she has Saturday Love.
Let's point out that Charlie Wilson produced Mercedes Boy and providing backing vocals (listen close in the chorus and you can hear him).....Yeah, I had time during quarantine two years ago!
Yes Uncle Charlie sounds good on the backing vocals
“Tell me what ya gonna do…”
While I have mixed feelings about Perri "Pebbles" Reid, I won't deny her talent as a singer. Her hits Girlfriend and Mercedes Boy are STILL classics. Let's not forget Charlie Wilson's stellar background vocals on her debut album! ❣️
What talent, stealing money from TLC,Naw I can pass on that type of talent 😂😂😂😂🤣🤨
@@TheDetroitblack Wait a minute now. I was only referring to the FEW hits she had. Otherwise, she and L.A. Reid were ruthless in how they treated TLC. I've ALWAYS stood by them.
I loved ALWAYS
@@deniseburt3332 Another good one! Johnny Gill sounded so sexy in the background too. 😍
@@danavixen6274 many artists had those horrible contracts back then that situation was unfortunate but that was happening to artists before tlc as well .
She’s a pure opportunist. She does not care if she hurts others as long as she succeeds. She would be more successful if she was not so shady.
She used pretty looks to be shady to others that is horrible she is doing what the industry has been doing stepping on others.
@@musiclover-cn7tb she refers to TLC as property that was stolen from her.
Pebbles is born hustler from hustle-town USA, Oakland CA. Folks around her taught her that her looks and game could get her far and that's wha she did, used her game to get in the music biz (snatching Vanessa Williams song), getting $$$ and paying to produce her own work and edit her videos and basically making her own way. She became successful through her hustle obvious not her decent but limited singing talent. She wasn't trying to be Whitney or ther pro vocalists, she was trying to get paid.
@@angelalove_ I can see that she was influential in getting them noticed.
@@reimourrpower9357 YES, this is the response I was looking for! You understand the game. Pebbles was smart I'll give her that and wasn't trying to be America's sweetheart or whatever.
Never forget when Pebbles was on My Super Sweet 16 for her and LA Reid's son Aaron's birthday
I remember how conceited her son was. He had to tell people to give him compliments. lmfaooo.
Yes and he was a hot mess.
He thought he was hot and arrogant boy you just come from a wealthy family that helps cover a multitude of non attractive looks and faults lol
I remember that. The kid was arrogant. I was getting sick of him.
@@kevinpayton2664 exactly these industry kids grow up entitled half of the time they don't have any real talents of their own in some cases so they live through others and expect everybody to bow down to them I hated all of those kids acting like ungrateful spoiled brats I remember the Timbaland episode where his son was upset over a car he just thought his dad would buy him the one he wanted and he had to do nothing for it a lot of the celebrity children do grow up entitled spoiled and don't work for anything but their parents did so they feel some sense of entitlement smh .
@@kevinpayton2664 they don't know how to be grateful I bet that tune would change real quick if they had to earn anything that's given instead of it being handed to them on a silver platter I never got a car at 16 at all .
5 Marriages speaks volumes!
Lmao
you know 😂
Especially the last one that is ENDURING for 10+ years. #strongfinish
@@jdfodio He's a Morehouse Man!
That Otis Nixon marriage was a Big Mistake!
There’s something very narcissistic and mean-spirited about that woman. She’s a beautiful woman, but the issue is.. she knows it and I think it caused her to always feel very entitled.
I know biopics aren’t always 100 percent true… some things are tweaked, left out or thrown in for creative liberties. However, that scene where Pebbles is instantly jealous of Chilli’s beauty and accuses chilli of being “threatened by her” when pebbles was the one who was threatened… I believe that happened. Pebbles does seem like the type who cannot stand any type of competition.
Narcissist always runs her religion
agreed...that why she bullshitted vanessa out that song and she went out her way to get close to la reid so she could marry him which she new would give her power in the industry so she could move forward and be be blackhearted and bullshit people....
@@vashtikelly6837 Yep! Again, beautiful woman… but she’s very self-centered. If another pretty woman is in the room, she can’t handle It.
I Heard Very Little About The Issue With TLC But I Know Every Recording Artist Gets SCREWED In Their 1st Contract.
This Broad Is Crazy And I Do Believe She Is A Narcissist.
Narcissist Are INCAPABLE Of ❤️ Anyone BEYOND Themselves
Those young girls felt entitled to her money bag and her man lol😭
Well one thing YOU can say for sure is that she believed in herself if she spent $18,000 and 2 cars for one song. She had a lot of great collaborations. It's too bad what happened to TLC. As a woman she should have done those girls right. That left a sour taste in everyone's mouth.
As a kid I loved Pebbles! My mom let me have her "Always" CD and I played it till I couldn't play it anymore lol 🤣 32 years later and it still jams! I hate what happened Between her and TLC tho..😒
What happened to all the money that TLC made? From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@harperstacey9604 alot of things honestly. But It all falls back on them signing a horrible contract! The story of so many entertainers lives...
@@harperstacey9604 Clive Davis had it they held him at gunpoint demanding their money.
@@Team90sBABE exactly the artists should read what they sign in fine print if they don't understand then they should have someone present to break down the contract to them before the ink dries.
@@Team90sBABE they aren't the only people that it happened to either many older artists had it way worse from stolen publishing to fake writer credits even En vogue had a terrible contract.
Pebbles reminds me of when my mother once said, "Don't let your talent take you somewhere your character can't keep you." A talented, beautiful, ambitious woman yet...
Eh, at the end of the day, I can bump Always and Love Makes You Do Some Crazy Things all night 'cause as trifling as she was, she put out some good music. lol
T-Boz and Left Eye were not responsible for tryna kick Chilli out. If you’re a real TLC fan, you remember a special they did years ago when Lisa first passed called What It’s Like on VH1. T-Boz wasn’t even at the auditions for the replacement girl because her mother drop a bed on her foot that same day and cut her toe off. I’ll never forget the special. Chilli had braids in, they were in Atlanta visiting all their old spots like the skating rink, Kandi was on it in the studio with them because she wrote “Girl Talk” from the 3D album. They even visited their old jobs like the salon and the restaurant.
It may have not been about the girls trying to kick Chilli out. Chilli was recording a solo album with Babyface as a producer before their last album with Lisa (alive) came out. I think that was 3D. I remember Babyface talking about how he was recording with Chilli for her solo project which she dropped as soon as this TLC project started.
@@brownin329 Pebbles wanted Chilli outta the group during their first era because she was with Dallas Austin. She says it was Left Eye & T-Boz, but that’s not true.
@EricRebelChild Even Dallas confirmed that the other girls didn’t want Chilli out of the group, it was Pebbles. At one point, Pebbles was holding auditions to find a replacement for Chilli
This channel gives sooooo much tea…and I’m here for all of it. “Giving you the benefit” is still a great song that has held up really well. SN: Looks like her 5th marriage was the charm. If at first you don’t succeed 🤷🏾♂️🤣
Try 4 more times 🤦🏾♀️
It’s my favorite song by her!
Pebbles knew those young girls didn’t know anything about contracts that was so cruel every time I see or hear Them my heart hurts for them
She and her husband for found guilty on all charges.
That's ok Vanessa.... You secured your own place in history with FAR better albums! 👍
"Do you wanna ride I'm my Mercedes boy, tell me what you wanna do" 💅
She did TLC so dirty but Mercedes Boy and girlfriend are still amazing. Thank you, as always, for the great content.
I don't ever remember Pebbles being a stand-out back in the day but I do associate her with TLC ❤️❤️❤️. Those 3 young sisters were railroaded because nothing really was broken down(fine print)for them to understand.
As far as the movie, I believe that was a hands-on thing with T-boz and Chilli sooo I bet it was actual & factual.
Nobody breaks things down for you when they are going to rob you with a contract signed by you. They legally rob you of your money without a gun.
One of my 80's favorites , beautiful music but unfortunately many will remember her in a negative sense
Her smile never reaches her eyes!
TLC is my all time FAVORITE girl group. I still love them AND their biopic. I sure do miss Lisa "Left Eye" 'Get Ready to do your math." Lopes. 😔🙏🏾❤️🕊️
I would love to see a story on Keri Hilson
Mee too.
Check out Real Reality Gossip here on TH-cam. They have an episode on Keri Hilson that is quite good.
This was good, I was just getting started and then it ended lol. We need a movie after seeing this. I can't believe she packed up his girlfriends stuff! She sounds like a determined woman........
Pebbles is doing her own movie to combat the assault and lies she says
Oh I am looking forward to this upload!
Now that she's a woman of God, will she finally come clean about TLC? I don't think they're lying.
😆😆😆 Don't HOLD Your Breathe.
She's A Narcissist IMO. They DESPISE The Truth And DONT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SHIT.
If only being a woman of god meant anything
She won her defamation suit against that movie!I don’t think she did them dirty.They let other people get into their heads and that’s when things feel apart.She claims that she spent money on them and groom them for a year before we even heard of them.She put them together!Even in that movie they depicted a scene to where Pebbles was trying to renegotiate their second album and they declined.Left Eye came back and spoke highly of her.
@@michaelwilliams7822 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
I think, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, the defamation suit was more about some of the dramatic parts added into the TLC movie. Either way, I don't think she'll own up to it soon unless she wants some attention. I know this because she blocked me on Twitter just a few months ago for resharing an old meme about her in the TLC movie😂 Pebbles can't face reality because she was so used to getting her way fron her looks. Even now, her and her false doctrine just lying on God and His word will get her in trouble. Pride comes before the fall, and her fall was and is great and mighty just like her pride.
“Sister Perri” sounds like a new hustle after the previous one started to dry up.
😂😂😂
After year of cheating people out of millions. Now all of a sudden they find jesus...ok..but we ain't gonna judge, that's up to the lord!!!
Sister “Creflo Dolla” Perri
@@Cocoarunway lol 😆 😂
@@Cocoarunway I snort laughed 😂🤣😂🤣 we'll have to wait and see if she gets on her Facebook live sermons saying "it's God's will" for her to have more Chanel bags🤣🤣🤣
5 marriages? Damn girl, you tryna compete with Liz Taylor?
Lol, right. I would not be surprised if most of them were specifically used as stepping stones for her career.
SHE COULDN'T EVEN HOLD THAT CANDLE. LIZ TAYLOR HAD EIGHT MARRIAGES W/7 MEN, (MARRIED HUSBAND NUMBER FIVE TWICE, IN A 12-YEAR SPAN).
You ain't lying!!! You learn something new every day!!!
Men only married her because of her looks. Couldn’t keep them because of her stern attitude.
Isn't it funny how these artists always turn to the lord when they know they've wronged one too many people? 😭😭
I noticed that lol Al Green is another one. 👀
😄
Because there is ALWAYS money in Christianity. Always. They are always willing to forgive not matter what as long as you are stronghold on professing your faith. I think majority of the time it’s disingenuous it’s just the only route they can take…
Can't detect one lie here... Trying to outrun karma..
Yes, a BS move to stay relevant somehow, someway.
I can see Vanessa singing Girlfriend 🤔
Me too. Actually, they have the same voice...
Me too!
Funny enough when I was younger I thought it was Vanessa Williams until I saw the video lol.
Babyface wanted Girlfriend for Vanessa Williams but LA Reid wanted nothing to do with Vanessa Williams so Peebles got to record the song
But Vanessa Williams had many hit records tv shows and movies
I can’t, it’s not her song…
What I notice about all these stories is these men LOVE chaos! They say they want an easy breezy girl, just go with the flow, but they really want ladies destroying furniture and fighting other ladies or doing more crazy things. The ladies who don’t do that are “boring” or last resort. How backwards
They like & tolerate those “crazy” type of women if they look a certain way. They’d never tolerate that kind of behavior from a full black woman.
@@ascribecalledtess7439 & she already had a child by some1 else & LA🦴 let that slide also probably because she was such an attractive🐦
@@ascribecalledtess7439 very true
Pretty-crazy gets old after they meet the one that's above their pray/play grade. 😁
@@ascribecalledtess7439 Preach!! 💯 Men contradict themselves so much. Pretty women get away with a lot of shit.
My favourite song from Pebbles in my childhood in 1990 was "Giving you the Benefit of the Dought".
Well I have a cousin that used to work in the industry & she also worked with Pebbles & TLC. The producers of the TLC documentary contacted my cousin & asked her if she wanted to participate in the documentary she said NO. This is one of the reasons she left the industry. She didn’t like Pebbles either. Hmmm that’s all I can say.
😒 🧢
Please say more. I live for behind the scenes tea, no matter when it happened.
Damn
wow
wowwww.
That pic of her looks like Halle berry, Mariah Carey and Beyoncé all combined into one person 😹😹😹
I literally only saw the Halle Berry in her there.
She’s prettier than all of them.
@@Dollicakes her attitude and actions make me disagree.. she is a pretty woman but when you ugly on the inside lolol
Those stories that came from the TLC camp and other people about her were never nice but Mercedes Boy.. Always.. And Love makes things happen takes me right back to my childhood....
This is r&b music. Period. Whatever has happened (there are alot of old school drama beefs lol) you can't take her moment in time.
I never knew about her and TLC. I do recall her songs.
Drama/ tea aside, Pebbles had a really great album I played over and over back in the day. "Girlfriend" and "Mercedes Boy" are still jams. And she gave us TLC - an incredible gift to music.
God bless you!
I Believe everything that TLC said about pebbles. Saying that she learned from the best LA Reid. 🤷🏽♀️
Speaks volumes. 👀
LA makes my Skin crawl. He must sleep with both eyes open.
LA was a low down dirty bastard
@@MPPG663 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@MPPG663
😂😂😂😂😂
Always and Love Makes Things Happen are still two of my favorites 🥰
I thought of her yesterday when I re-watched the TLC movie. The last time I seen Pebbles, she was preaching on TBN years ago. Thanks for sharing :)
2:50 “F THE FAMILY!!! The Family F my Husband” -Soul Food 😂
😂 😂 😂
Thank you so much for another great video! I didn’t know that Vanessa Williams was dooped out of a deal because of Pebbles. Wow!
Pebbles was threatened by Vanessa.
@@aavalestormiconicperformer I believe it
Hey,congrats on 100K + subscribers!!! Proud to say I was here from the jump!…almost 😉😎 lol
Yay! Thank you!
Great video as always! I really didn't know that much about Peebles other than TLC stuff, absolutely had no idea on the Vanessa Williams stuff. Have you ever thought about covering Mel B from the Spice Girls? She's had a wild life that's a great story to tell.
Her Autobiography is Good, too
She did My Girl Vanessa Lynn Williams DURRRTY.
All ova a SONG!!
Damn! 5 Marriages??!
SHE'S Da problem!!
Yup but I blame the simps,that still wanna marry her. She has trophy looks . This left a lot out but it was good for what could fit in a ten minute spin, Lol
I used to have her debut album on vinyl nearly 34 years ago
I still do and it still sounds good.
🎶Backyard was playing in my head the other day, then this showed up in my feed. Good job on telling her full (yet compressed) story with objectivity! It highlights how petty the people are who only focus on one part and "ignore" the redemptive part. God bless!
Pebbles was ruthless!!
That's the word, ruthless!
Ooooh chile! That doggone Virgo woman energy... (Jada P. Smith, my own mama- love you mama LOL)!!
I love her songs “Mercedes Boy”,”Girlfriend” & “Giving You The Benefit” 🎶🎶 ❤️ “do you wanna ride in my Mercedes? Riiide”..
Pebbles is beautiful but she’s a looney toon 4 real. For years she believed Chilli was involved w/ her ex husband when that wasn’t true & that was her jealousy talking..& TLC wouldn’t lie on Pebbles like that. She was very controlling..& I always hated that she went on Wendy & instead of setting the record straight she just lied some more & even had her own daughter in the mix smh
“Always” is one of my favorite songs of all time.
Love these stories so much
Pebbles looks like a “Knowles” family member. Tell me I’m lying lol 😂
You ain't!
@@portraitofalady1598 🤣🤣🤣
You lying.
I ALWAYS think that when I watch the "Mercedes Boy" video especially 👏🏿👄💯
Wellp- she’s prettier…
Not Pebbles doing the "people were mean to me because I was pretty (not because my personality was horrible)" thing re her early childhood
But it does happen. Jealousy is why a lot of kids get bullied.
I'm sure her childhood is what hardened her into the person she's become. It happens all the time.
Kids were horrible to me. They'd call my hair "peter rican" and put pencils in my waves. I never could bring myself to sit with the black kids at the bus stop because they talked so much shit about me. I remember the last day of 6th grade and I was so disappointed that I never had the courage to sit down with them. Disappointed and relieved. 😂 They would call me poor because I didn't press my hair or wear Filas but yet they were the ones with the free lunch tickets. 🥴
I always look forward to your short bios you and your channel on mazing keep up the good work can I wait till next one
Correction: Pebbles is not the product of two black parents. She’s the product of two biracial parents, which would also make her biracial, a second-generation biracial, more specifically. Other than that, it was a good video.
exactly what I said. She’s just like Zoe Kravits who identifies as biracial with 2 biracial parents
I use to like her a lot until I found out how she did TLC. Use to love Mercedes and Always.
Pebbles was a scapegoat. LA FACE and ARISTA stole all of TLC's money. They did the same thing to TONI BRAXTON. You can't believe everything you read.
Wow 😣😣😳😳.
Great 80s/early 90s pop/R&B artist but that TLC thing was messy! Lol according to L.A., when Whitney Houston was over his house (with Robyn in tow lol) as the work on WH’s I’m Your Baby Tonight was underway, she thought he was messing with her. However, when she went to confront Whitney, it was said Nippy politely got her together. The next thing that happened, Whitney and Pebbles became BFFs. True story. 😅
It's that Newark energy.
Whitney always been with the shit.
I read that story on twitter years ago...it was funny how Pebbles started to make a scene before confronting Whitney 😅😅😅
@@TititoDeBologay Right. Newark AND East Orange. Deadly combo. 😅
@@Thegazelle1000 Right. 🤣🤣🤣
When you've been married as many times as she has, you're the problem.
Exactly
She has always been such a beauty.
She was ok with a lot of weave.
On the outside, not the inside
@@aavalestormiconicperformershe doesn’t wear weave
Love Makes Things Happen was my favorite song by her. I loved Girlfriend and Mercedes when I was a little girl too.
@0:43 you said " pebble is the product of two blaque parents who each had a white parent"
Seems to me that her parents were biracial, not blaque; which is why she looks biracial.
Right, when 2 biracial people have children, their children are biracial as well
@@melanintingz6555 That's what i thought
Pebbles or anyone else can claim African/Black American if they have black in them. Nothing you can do about it
She probably does not consider biracial nor her parents
Facts! I Hate When People, Especially Black's Call Biracials Black.
Idc nothing about her childhood nothing‼️ She a thief. She ruined TLC. Case closed next case!
0:37
_"Pebbles, who is light-skinned, and the product of two Black parents who each have one White parent-"_
No disrespect intended, but if both of her parents "each have one White parent", then wouldn't that make her parents _bi-racial?_ So Pebbles herself would be mixed.
True ❤️🤗🫂😁💡😂🤣🌍🚭😴✅🛑🚏😊🙂 also.
She's a mixed child of mixed parents
FACTS💯
So are my nieces. Both parents are Caucasian and Cuban mix. It crazy because they are blonde haired blue eyed but have Cuban features
The intro🥰 makes me long for the 90s like a mug!!
this is the one i been waiting
Oh God! Watch it. She may see this and want to sue you to get her cut for this documentary...lol
Anything is possible. 😂
This lady did her a favor. She left out a lot of juicy scandalous facts about this so called,' woman of God'😏😑
Vanessa & Pebbles performed on the same bill at the Apollo! I wondered did they speak !
She had a few a great songs I loved as a child BUT I'm a firm believer of the industry life shining a light on people's ugly ways which already existed. Just saying.
She was a very underrated singer but she had some pretty good songs
It’s giving the female Diddy 😂
I wonder if the incident where Paula Abdul was present was before or after Pebbles sang back for Paula's song "Knocked Out"?
Love your series so much, found the channel last month and already watched all the videos 💜
I don't know if anyone else ever recommended this for an upcoming video, but it would be really interesting to see one about Sugababes and their history (they had like five line-up changes)
this is an incredible woman. give everyone their flowers before its too late.
Pebbles has a lot to atone for.
I think she already did. Once she lost TLC, her relationship with L.A. went south, and her life started to crumble from that point till she went back to YAH.
She conned TLC from the start and it came to light in court were she was found guilty on all charges and had to pay out millions plus royalties.
And so do you! Better start now because Jesus is on His way back! 😁
My favorite artist ever! Literally, Everybody who knew me as a child knew that about me.
So much talent and ambition...if only she would have used her powers for good instead of evil.
...and now she is, but y'all still running your mouths about decades-old "tea." Go pray for someone!
I'm REALLY GLAD, Pebbles got it RIGHT in The End, Though.
💯💯👏🏾👏🏾
And I 'Humbly' 🙏🏾🙏🏾 PRAY while She is Living her Life Now, that She 'TRULY' asked for Repentance, and Salvation From
Our LORD, ✝️✝️🕊️🕊️
Jesus Christ Of Nazareth.
AMEN.
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💯💯
both parents half white , ummmm that means shes half white not light skinned
Same like Lisa bonet and Lenny kravitz daughter.
For some reason, I believe TLC.😊
Same here! I definitely enjoyed her music, but Pebbles sounds extremely shady. If you listen to this documentary, it sounds like she didn't care who she hurt to get what SHE wanted!
@@trinityqueen2461 Well Said
You believe them because they're telling the truth.
A story on rap group US3 best known for their hit Cantaloop (Flip Fantasia) would be very interesting
Beautiful woman but yeah that TLC story will always be 😬😬😬
I think I missed who here second husband was. She got married to her child’s father, which lasted a year, but when the video got to the part about her getting with LA, it says she was still married to her second husband. I paused the video to make this comment so if it’s explained later, please disregard lol
We all missed it lol.
They didn’t expand on it, but I read other comments over the years that said that she was married to an older, successful Oakland contractor *George L. Smith* between the time she was with her first husband and L.A. He was the one who helped her finance her career with demos and such. I’m guessing he was the one that help her pay to get “Girlfriend.” She left him after she started seeing L.A.
Peebles was and still is pretty.
She definitely had some bops my fav Love Makes things Happen with Babyface.
Pastor Peebles mmmm🤔 yeah okay we haven't forgot about TLC and Toni Braxton.
Her song “Always” one of my favorite song. I’m glad she found Religion. If she did TLC wrong or Con there Contract back in the day. She needs to make peace with TLC. That I hope she did.
I click so fast on your videos ❤️
My mother loved her some Pebbles. She loved Mercedes Boy & Girlfriend. Like listened to it when I was a little kid years after it ever came out! Lol she’s a beautiful woman but man she has (had) some character flaws big times!
When it comes to the light skin "complaints"...Children in the community play the dozens and it is not always pretty. However, "the dozens" (teasing and other struggles) with fair complexion Children ends and they become pedestalized. With dark children who become adults, especially dark women, "the dozens" never end!!! 😐
Exactly 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
I don't know about that. Pedestalized usually includes some type of abuse. Build you up to knock you down. Pedestalize yourself, don't wait on someone to tell you, you're worthy. You got to know it regardless of what they think❤❤❤❤.
I’ve seen it goes on both ends. Some dark skin saying horrible things to light skin. And light skin doing the same.
@@JassminaVellucci thank you
@@JassminaVellucci 👏🏻👏🏻
Those were my jams all of them!!
She didn’t style TLC. She wanted them
To wear dresses and heels and they said no we want to wear baggy clothes
Wow. 5 marriages. I married once, divorced once. It's doubtful that I would trust enough to marry again & I don't hook up or shack up.
Umm, if her parents each had one white parent they weren't black. They were both BIRACIAL!!
So what…
Pebbles might have been a villain in music business but I still enjoy her solo music