@@BulletProofBrain this goes for EU politics as well. Poland forced to close coal mines at home but it's ok to import coal from outside Europe. Germany and other countries in EU doing the same.
I'm not advocating for Labour to be in power, but how come they managed to get into power? All of those people who voted 'Green' were idiots - look at the mullahs that took seats in their name. Give Britain back to the British!
Wind farms require factories yo produce them. They're partly PLASTIC, NONBIODEGRADABLE, and will cover land and seas and possibly riun wild life habitats and good arable land or land that farming tunnels coukd be erected on. Solar production and location should be monitored, every house could have a solar panel, not goid food producing land. Solar also has plastic in it and needs huge factories to produce them, plus both items transportation globally is a huge eco boob, as I hear China grabbed the market. Yeah, the money and eventual mess will be owned by the big boys.
Any body want to guess who the next cabinet minister to stand and declare how much money they can get away with, the one who gives away the most looks the rixhest for us?
@@ianfraser6161 Don't think you'll get an answer, Ian. These people use childish insults to cover for the fact that they've lost the scientific argument and the economic one.
'climate' 'scientist'. Person who ignores the sun, cosmic rays, the position of the solar system in the galaxy and clouds and points to a simple solution as long as they get paid.
Yes, for you and me, but not for the filthy rich 1%.They want it all... and my gutfeeling says: THEY WILL GET IT ALL! Maybe trump can postpone it a few years. In Dutch: Wie betaald, bepaald... Translated: The one with the money is the king. He only have to get rid of democracy And that's what they are working on..... And that's why they choose the left to arrange it.... Those lowlifes believe in communism. Congratulation, you have almost reached it! Choosing Labour. Look at Canada.... Disgusting
So, why *are* we buying them from China? Why don’t we make our own? Could it possibly be utter failure on the part of the Brit Govts concerned to see what was happening in front of their eyes? Don’t blame the clever Chinese for exploiting opportunities caused by Tory incompetence.
You think!? The Tory front bench had been seriously lacking in talent since 2019 when anyone who didn't shout 'Get Brexit Done!' was booted out. Decent Tories such as Rory Stewart are sadly few in number
The Globalists love a failure . All the cheaper to buy . Entertainers , newspapers , TV stations , politicians , etc . " Here's your money , say this " .
£3 Trillion just for the infrastructure! Energy bills already double the USA green tax already £6billion a year. Wind turbines only repay their green cost after 20 years but of course they don't last 20 years.
@@Danzkaz The whole Net Zero agenda will cost £Trillions , You will constantly be rebuilding the infrastructure. No one even knows the impact of wind turbines on the weather/climate... Not to mention the fact you remove wealth from your own Country whilst enriching others... Destruction of the environment around the world or did you not know about the open cast mining? There is vastly more to this than people realise. They are being lied to effectively by the politicians , U.N. , MSM etc. etc. (eco loons too!) The problem is that the people that matter do not choose to think... You can not remove carbon from wind turbines by the way... it is impossible! The people pushing Net Zero are morons!
@@simonjones2240 Hence the need for more grid scale batteries to smooth out the peaks and troughs of renewables. And why EV owners get such a cheap overnight rate. At £0.075/kWh we can drive 200 miles for £5...You can't do that in a fossil fuel car.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Hah! Grid scale batteries! You clearly have no idea of the implausibility of building such batteries or of the environmental devastation it would cause if it could be done.
@@BrainfromSpain The Ministry of Energy Security to go along with the Ministry of Truth, the Ministry of Peace, the Ministry of Plenty, and the Ministry of Love
House holds have never got any 'savings' from Green energy. If anything the bills have got up and more added on with your Green tax Ed. The only people making money of 'green' energy are the companies who get a large chuck of this tax payer money.
@peterholden3672 Energy from "fossil" fuel production is cheaper if you use your own! North sea oil had always been sold abroad and then oil products are bought back from foreign companies! It is and always has been a scam to line the pockets of the wealthy!
As much as I think his policy is wrong and bad for the country as things stand at the moment, calling him w⚓️…. Just shows how you lack respect for others Milliband. has kids how would your kids feel if he were to call you by the same infantile derivative phraseology
@@KM-zm2kd wind speed below 12mph and above 55mph they have to be switched off. Under 12 there isn’t the wind power to rotate the blades, above 55mph the transfer box Will basically explode and destroy the whole turbine.
Because when there is oversupply power companies bid to get paid not to produce. You can put he brake on a turbine, you can't just switch of a powerstation. That's why you often see turbines not spinning Perhaps you should divert your energy I to stopping that system than spouting unresearched nonsense on TH-cam?
We've always had that, the difference now is that they're implementing policies on behalf of the WEF, who have a very miserable and sinister future in mind for us "useless eaters"
Ed has been around long enough to know the truth. So the question is, whose payroll is he on that pays enough to impoverish the people of his own country?
Communism is a long journey. We’re at the business end of it now where the aims are to impoverish the common man and enrich the very, very few. Ed gains untold power and riches from the trillion dollar climate industry whilst pretending he’s our saviour.
Labour has a lot of experience in Blackouts in the UK, they know how to cause it so be happy that we have them and their infinite knowledge of keeping us in the dark and cold.
@@paulgilliland2992 Yes, Hitchens makes this argument. The issue I have with this way of thinking is that unless people start voting for new parties (e.g. SDP or Reform) we end up where we are currently at. I agree in many regards to your assessment but flip-flopping between Lab and Con is how we are in this situation.
It's BS, the Cons were doing exactly the same things just slower, ultimately every bit as bad as Lab, voting for them is just more of the same, voting for someone else like the SDP or Reform is the only reasonable thing to do, just because enough people haven't come to the realisation ConLab are the same party on a policy basis to get both of them out this time is not an argument for voting for one of these pieces of festering BS.
When I was a kid in Britain we used to have milk delivered in bottles and those bottles would be returned to be cleaned and reused. It only stopped because it was cheaper to use a plastic bottle. Maybe it's time to rethink that decision.
Yes and pop and beer came in bottles and we used to get money back on bottles returned to shops. Surprising how much money we made on bottles found in hedges etc. Plastic in disposable nappies is my bug bear. Use terry nappies. I bought 3 dozen when my first child was born. They lasted through two chdren and were used as floor cloths before being thrown away. Only problem is they need washing. What a hard job that is!!!
Solar panels and wind turbines = manufacturing products that at some point have a product end and need to be disposed of. Recycling/scrapping requires energy as well as the manufacturing. Calculating all this against the energy produced, is it worth it? Compared to small nuclear reactors, it’s not at all competitive. North Sea oil should be used to maintain the current system while we figure out something as significant as nuclear fission.
Solar panels , when they are not any use are sent tom 3d world countries to be put into landfill, not green at all. it is all a massive lie to make more money for the richest people on earth and also to control the populations of the world.
They keep telling us renewable energy is cheap' but its not it's a lot more expensive' it would be nice see someone explain how much electricity will cost us when they've built all these wind farms' because no one ever does' plus everything is made in China so where's all these jobs.
There are lots of study’s on the cost of electricity from various sources. Google it and pick your own, every one will say land based wind generation is the cheapest.
@@jedjones9047 they include the cost of grid storage to store the power. Gas peaker plants are paid to sit idle unless they are needed anyway. There is a path to a much cleaner smarter grid that doesn’t include gas but that’s years off.
The first thing a government should do for their populous is ensuring energy security. We should have expected the lefties to stroke the egos of the eco protestors, but to shut down our gas and oil production only ensures that we will be buying energy from foreign parties, and the consumers will foot the bill. "Save The Planet" they say, but still want to use their electrical and electronic devices. The rich politicians can absorb the higher annual costs, but every winter we pensioners have to risk death because of rising gas and electricity prices.
There is only one profit in what you sell then it's gone. Electric ,sold ,gas sold ,water sold, Railways sold, Next to be sold solar panel farms, windmill farms, To Who?????
In 1945/46 my mother,along with her fellow soldiers was bussed to Harwell near her camp. They were given a lecture on how marvelous atomic was and here we are almost eighty years later not much to show for it.
@peterholden3672 52% of those that voted on a 72% turnout equates to 37% (35% voted “remain and, WORST OF ALL, 28% of the electorate couldn’t be bothered.). The non-voters were to blame (as those who wanted to leave made the effort to express their opinion).
weeks ago i was sailing off the south east and south coast and i can tell you that i was a number of super massive wind farms, not many were turning from the Thames to Dungeness and across to the Dutch wind farm. Billions spent not a single watt of power for days on end. The UK’s battery farms will have been exhausted within two hours suppling their catchment areas
I voted Reform, fully aware of the risk of letting Labour in, but out of frustration that the Labour/Conservative model was in effect a mono-party, pursuing very similar policies, and we needed a shake up in politics. We'll no doubt see a dreadful few years under these leftie clowns, but maybe that's what it will take to finally get a government 'for the people'.
@peterholden3672 Well for one, they're against the self-destructive 'net-zero' policy being pushed by Lab/Con; for another they are against the country being swamped by immigrants. But I expect that you're one of those clowns, who think that these policies are in your best interests, because they told you so.
@peterholden3672 In the sense that many of its members are patriotic nationalists. The other parties are all full of virtue-signalling, metropolitan elites, who see themselves as 'citizens of the world'. Politics tends to attract self-serving, sociopathic types. Nevertheless, their impact will be less amongst people who don't despise Britain and its peoples.
@peterholden3672 Well for one, they're against the self-destructive 'net-zero' policy being pushed by Lab/Con; for another they are against the country being swamped by immigrants. But I expect that you're one of those, who think that these policies are in your best interests, because they told you so. To say that we're all immigrants, is a facile argument. Those who are now entering the country, are doing so in unprecedented numbers putting enormous strain on our infra-structure and services. Furthermore they are hostile to our values, refuse to integrate, and bring no skills that might benefit the country.
Renewables are NOT 40% of energy used. They are 40% of Electricity generated. What is more the about half of that renewable is generated by burning rubbish and wood pellets from north American forests. About 17% of energy in the UK is electricity. That means that we will need six times the generating capacity we currently have (but it's not growing it's shrinking). We will also need six times the distribution, so six times the aluminium and at least six times the copper currently in use (put in use over many decades not just a few years). Note: according to the BBC wind and solar require seven times the copper of traditional generating methods so NetZero may require up to 42 times that currently in use. Energy requirements are set to increase. EVs are heavier, so require more energy than ICEVs but also are run on Apps, charging requires WiFi, the apps require data centres which use hinge amounts of energy. CBDCs require an ever increasing set of data centres, ever more energy.
I agree with Lionel that renewables will never be able to 'cut the mustard' when it comes to supplying reliable energy. We've already had a 20% increase in our UK energy bills due to this cult of Netzero, etc.
Ms Shriver's observations that net zero targets/aspirations are little more than a sham together with her concerns for pollution and poor recycling practises are extremely prescient and correct.
Meanwhile in Asia (China specifically) where I work, they are building 90-120 Cities of between 5-10 million people. They've recently constructed a railway in inner Mongolia to move 777 million tons of coal a year to power plants. Politicians are elected to do what's in the interests of their people, not introduce damaging virtue signalling policies under the spurious belief that they're 'saving the planet'.
China deployed more renewable energy than the rest of the world combined last year. Also The government are acutely aware of the pollution problems and encroaching desertification
Yeh but China are big on Nuclear too?, and also use green energy?... guessing the coal is to produce the solar panels and wind turbines our green loons think are made by magic pixies out of fairy dust.
So good to the Spectator is taking the side of common sense and at least, discussing the stupidity of so called ' Climate ' policies. Natural cycles will do what it will, regardless of man's ' intervention '.
We survived during the Edward Heath government of three day working weeks and working by candle light ehen there were blackouts. We did not all die off. We just changed and adapted our behaviour.
The reason British energy bills are higher are because of millibands green tariffs that he introduced in the last labour govt and the tories did not remove them either. Also the wind farms produce a fraction of what a nuclear power station would and in the 14 years the tories were in power we could have at least 5 built meaning cheaper energy for the whole of the UK for at least 50 years. This interview is one of the most sensible and accurate regarding energy in the UK.
I’m ok with duplicating the power system to reduce pollution but get real about NetZero. A … UK emissions per year = 400 million tons (gov.uk) B … CO2 required to increase global temperature by one degree C = 1 million million tons (IPCC) Divide A by B to get the reduction in global temperature if UK achieved Net Zero. Answer; 0.0004 degrees Centigrade per year. That’s four ten-thousandths of one degree C per year. California is also 0.0004 … Australia 0.0005 degrees C per year. The idea that NetZero can achieve anything wrt climate is clearly false … delusional.
@@Hickalum - when the maths show what is a commonsensical result - anthropogenic climate change is a lie; it’s obvious the governments do not work for us or for the benefit of the Planet. They work for the benefit of the Billionaires who aim to own the Planet. They want to make ordinary people live much smaller lives, ideally using as little irreplaceable earth resources as possible. So global warming / climate change is the narrative designed to persuade ordinary people to accept higher taxes and lower standards of living.
It is not irrational or alarmist to warn of power outages if we pursue the insanity of nut-zero. It is not for nothing that my local power network company has taken it upon itself to deliver a leaflet to all homes called "Preparing for power cuts". So there you have it, the network itself is telling you it is going to happen.
Lionel is (as usual) absolutely spot on about the effects of Milibands ideological pursuit. You would have thought that Starmer by now would have stepped in - I was told Starmer is quite intelligent. No sign of that intelligence on overviewing Milibands policies. Miliband will wreck the economy - are you listening Kier? By the way, black outs also come from overloading the grid by having too much electricity being generated when the power is not needed. The grid becomes destabilised.
he got B,B,C in his A levels as a scholarship kid apparently, at a private schl (Reigate Grammar became private whilst he was there). I dunno how they choose but I know someone working high up in the crown prosecution service who got no A levels, and was academically pretty challenged. seems strange.
Lionel is the reason the world looks to the US for leadership and hope God bless you Lionel and all those who are trying to bring reason and sanity back.
Not a fan of renewable energy in general, for all the reasons the lady stated, but tidal should be reliable. As for glass bottles, this was always done in the 1970's with milk and soda bottles in the UK.
When gas prices surged because Russia restricted supply, the only true reliable & useful renewable energy - nuclear, was in short supply because Britain built no new power stations. In 2010 Nick Clegg ruled out doing so as they wouldn’t be operational until the early 2020s - exactly when they would have been very handy. Politicians do not do forward planning competently.
Correct. You don't just turn nuclear on. You don't easily decomission them either. Nor do you easily find somewhere to store nuclear waste which is dangerous for hundreds of years.
When it comes to climate change, net zero, fossil fuels, and all that malarky, this is the most sensible discourse I've heard for a very long time. Lionel Shriver's opening remarks scored a bullseye at the outset: Shutting down North Sea exploration tackles the supply side of the equation, not the demand side. Doing away with our own capacity to supply has no effect on demand, it merely means that we have to import a lot more oil, gas etc. On a slightly different tack, I don't think politicians should be allowed to dabble in things in which they have no expertise, let alone be made Secretary of State. In Milliband's case, these include self-accompanied singing and making decisions that should be left to scientists and engineers. How many MPs on either side of the House are qualified in science and/or engineering? No doubt there are a handful, but the last one I can recall, who I knew was qualified in a scientific field, was Margaret Thatcher. She was the last one I KNEW about - as I say, there have been, and probably still are, a few others; Milliband is not one of them.
@@NorfolkSceptic True. And if a project requires scientific/engineering expertise, the Secretary of State must be qualified to assess his/her advisors, otherwise nobody gets anywhere. We don't expect the Sec of State to design the whole project himself (assuming it's a man, which Ed Milliband is), but he must be capable of vetting his would-be advisors and support staff. That's the way it works in industry, but not (so it appears) in government.
Does Milliband think wind turbines lubricate them selves. The existing 11000 turbines require over 10 million litres of oil every time the oil is changed, which will likely happen three times during their 20 year life. Building more turbines while stopping more oil exploration is pure lunacy.
@malcky630 Exxon Mobil website state between 200 and 1400 litres depending on the size of turbine. A lot of the modern turbines being installed are now 5kW the largest ever made, and will require the most oil. Some will argue that they use synthetic oil, but that still requires mineral oil as a base lubricant, and to distill the synthetic additives needed to make the oil.
Net Zero is not an accident or virtue signalling Follow the money Who is making/going to make huge profits from the madness Its not stupidity, its corruption
The grid needs to be powered up at all times, so, for the small amount of electricity the wind and solar supply, if there wasn't a constant 50 hertz in those cables above you, nothing, absolutely nothing would work. That is, no conventional power stations no electricity, it's as simple as that.
I’m pro nuclear and in Shriver’s side, but gotta say in this interview she’s very hesitant and doesn’t make a robust case. On nuclear it’s not “pretty safe”, Lionel! It’s THE SAFEST. On per unit electricity generated, even safer than solar and wind.
70% of the grid in France is nuclear. Energy bill price hikes were capped at 5% - so the French homeonwver has been protected from the market by a semi nationalised electric supply.
These turbine will never pay for themselves. As they cost to much they only last 20 year they will be standing all over the country as the cost to take down ,is not he costing like sole panal farms will be left to rot wait and see left standing
The worst of politicians at the worst of times.
In a strong field - it must be said.
The only eyesore I saw was ed millipede.
@@DavidEdwards-uf5lg Such astute political commentary. Bravo.
A HOC without the likes of Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson and Liz Truss in it is a much better place.
So far all they've done so far is take it in turns at playing Father Christmas (one bad example after another)!
The level of stupidity by our leaders is mind boggling.
Just think, we've got 650 of these clowns in Westminster.
@@BulletProofBrain this goes for EU politics as well. Poland forced to close coal mines at home but it's ok to import coal from outside Europe. Germany and other countries in EU doing the same.
Politics has turned into playschool. How did it get so bad.
By voting for starmer and his bunch of clowns, that's how.
I'm not advocating for Labour to be in power, but how come they managed to get into power? All of those people who voted 'Green' were idiots - look at the mullahs that took seats in their name. Give Britain back to the British!
People can argue about net zero all day, but the one thing it isn't about is climate. As always, follow the money.
its going to cost money to help the climate dude
@@Dacheerio what a silly f##king statement why? whos money? are the elites going to give up their private jets? ......no thought not
Wind farms require factories yo produce them. They're partly PLASTIC, NONBIODEGRADABLE, and will cover land and seas and possibly riun wild life habitats and good arable land or land that farming tunnels coukd be erected on.
Solar production and location should be monitored, every house could have a solar panel, not goid food producing land.
Solar also has plastic in it and needs huge factories to produce them, plus both items transportation globally is a huge eco boob, as I hear China grabbed the market.
Yeah, the money and eventual mess will be owned by the big boys.
@@Dacheerio going to cost money to wreck the economy is more like it.
Managed decline!
The 'bad' money....
Dear lord, the lack of genuine capability in that Labour cabinet is seriously dangerous!
And moronic is an understatement.
What a mess.
And you thought it was looked better with the likes of Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Braverman and Truss in there!?..😂😂😂😂
This man was and is a mistake and an embarrassment
Why?
Any body want to guess who the next cabinet minister to stand and declare how much money they can get away with, the one who gives away the most looks the rixhest for us?
@@DarrenJamiesonJamieson In English?
@@ianfraser6161 Don't think you'll get an answer, Ian. These people use childish insults to cover for the fact that they've lost the scientific argument and the economic one.
Childish insults are all you have. You lost the intellectual argument a long time ago.
this is the most foolish time in human history
Or the most malevolent.
Labour are now in power...you ain't seen nothing yet, kid!
It is, just ask any climate scientist. ‘The age fools’.
'climate' 'scientist'. Person who ignores the sun, cosmic rays, the position of the solar system in the galaxy and clouds and points to a simple solution as long as they get paid.
Yes, for you and me, but not for the filthy rich 1%.They want it all... and my gutfeeling says: THEY WILL GET IT ALL! Maybe trump can postpone it a few years. In Dutch: Wie betaald, bepaald... Translated: The one with the money is the king. He only have to get rid of democracy And that's what they are working on..... And that's why they choose the left to arrange it.... Those lowlifes believe in communism. Congratulation, you have almost reached it! Choosing Labour. Look at Canada.... Disgusting
“Moronic” was the exact word in my head before she said it.
Meanwhile, the adults have to deal with scientific facts. Grown-up government returns at last.
Green jobs? What green jobs come from importing Chinese wind turbines?
@@jdg9999 at best, there's probably a job for every wind turbine (maintenance, asmin, etc) that will not pay too much.
So, why *are* we buying them from China? Why don’t we make our own? Could it possibly be utter failure on the part of the Brit Govts concerned to see what was happening in front of their eyes?
Don’t blame the clever Chinese for exploiting opportunities caused by Tory incompetence.
Green jobs is one of the biggest lies of this nonsense. Jobs for non-UK manufacturing as with solar panels.
Chinese green jobs
Delivery drivers
Milliband is a failed politician and a dangerous fool. The mediocrity in the Labour front bench is frightening.
Have you seen the others? It's no wonder Labour won by a landslide.
You think!? The Tory front bench had been seriously lacking in talent since 2019 when anyone who didn't shout 'Get Brexit Done!' was booted out. Decent Tories such as Rory Stewart are sadly few in number
Compared to the Tories the lowest of them is like Einstein.
The Globalists love a failure . All the cheaper to buy . Entertainers , newspapers , TV stations , politicians , etc . " Here's your money , say this " .
Miliband
£3 Trillion just for the infrastructure! Energy bills already double the USA green tax already £6billion a year. Wind turbines only repay their green cost after 20 years but of course they don't last 20 years.
@@marumaru6084 interesting, you got a link to that data?
@@Danzkaz Just get out of your chamber and read widely. You could start with Steve Koonin's "Unsettled".
@@Danzkaz The whole Net Zero agenda will cost £Trillions , You will constantly be rebuilding the infrastructure. No one even knows the impact of wind turbines on the weather/climate... Not to mention the fact you remove wealth from your own Country whilst enriching others... Destruction of the environment around the world or did you not know about the open cast mining? There is vastly more to this than people realise. They are being lied to effectively by the politicians , U.N. , MSM etc. etc. (eco loons too!) The problem is that the people that matter do not choose to think... You can not remove carbon from wind turbines by the way... it is impossible! The people pushing Net Zero are morons!
@peterholden3672 Woe -- you really put me in my place. Great response. I take that reading the work of a renowned scientist is too tough for you?
@peterholden3672 Give examples of the "appalling" bits. Your opinion is just that. An opinion.
It is always refreshing to hear someone talking common sense and someone who actually knows what she is talking about, thank you
Natasha is wrong when she says renewables make up 40% of our energy needs; it is 40% of our electricity. Electricity is 20% of our energy needs.
So true - so 40% of our electricity needs equates to 8% of total energy requirement!
And it's 40% when the wind is blowing. There have been times when wind has contributed as little as 2%.
And we pay the windfarms to shut down when the grid is overpowered!
@@simonjones2240 Hence the need for more grid scale batteries to smooth out the peaks and troughs of renewables. And why EV owners get such a cheap overnight rate. At £0.075/kWh we can drive 200 miles for £5...You can't do that in a fossil fuel car.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Hah! Grid scale batteries! You clearly have no idea of the implausibility of building such batteries or of the environmental devastation it would cause if it could be done.
It’s like a never ending nightmare with these clowns in charge.
Don't forget those at the ballot box.
Even Miliband's job title "Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero" is an oxymoron !
@@BrainfromSpain The Tories created this Ministry and gave it this title.
@@bluemagician5164 and ? just shows the agenda is the same
We were always at war with Oceania!
@@BrainfromSpain The Ministry of Energy Security to go along with the Ministry of Truth, the Ministry of Peace, the Ministry of Plenty, and the Ministry of Love
@ilikethiskindatube What about the Ministry of Silly Walks ?
we are nowhere near ready to stop oil production.
Yes, too much too soon.
Exploration is over.
House holds have never got any 'savings' from Green energy. If anything the bills have got up and more added on with your Green tax Ed. The only people making money of 'green' energy are the companies who get a large chuck of this tax payer money.
…and don’t forget the owners of the land,often big corporations or hedge funds, pension funds etc
@peterholden3672
Energy from "fossil" fuel production is cheaper if you use your own!
North sea oil had always been sold abroad and then oil products are bought back from foreign companies!
It is and always has been a scam to line the pockets of the wealthy!
@@derek6579 One must not forget the fact that the biggest land owners and surrounding seas is The Crown.
Ed Millipede is a W⚓
Accurate on all levels
Yep ! A total bell end …
As much as I think his policy is wrong and bad for the country as things stand at the moment, calling him w⚓️…. Just shows how you lack respect for others Milliband. has kids how would your kids feel if he were to call you by the same infantile derivative phraseology
I couldn’t agree more. Guy hasn’t a clue.
Ah, incisive political comment.
Milliband was a joke but who's laughing now Starmers has given him Carte Blanche to take Britain back to the (literally) dark ages
No it is not out of the question we may have blackouts...i wouldnt trust milliband to look after a puppy let alone our energy needs
Tosh.
Yup same. He’s a child.
He is corrupt, either that or he is an ignoramus. He must be in the pockets of the Climate Inquisition masters.
Bollicks. In Northumberland we have lots of wind farms but if you drive passed them only half of these wind mills work at the same time!
@@KM-zm2kd wind speed below 12mph and above 55mph they have to be switched off. Under 12 there isn’t the wind power to rotate the blades, above 55mph the transfer box Will basically explode and destroy the whole turbine.
Because when there is oversupply power companies bid to get paid not to produce. You can put he brake on a turbine, you can't just switch of a powerstation. That's why you often see turbines not spinning
Perhaps you should divert your energy I to stopping that system than spouting unresearched nonsense on TH-cam?
@@davzer3773Then maybe they need to create a better transfer box, that can be okay within 120mph speeds ?
The problem we have is that we have politicians who are completely out of touch with reality.
That's never been any different. Above all when the country is largely run by moronic ex etonian toffs....look where that got us????
Politicians aren't alone in being out of touch with reality, what is a woman?
No they are making money from it milliband has 75% of the shares in a major green energy company in the name of the goverment and who is in goverment
We've always had that, the difference now is that they're implementing policies on behalf of the WEF, who have a very miserable and sinister future in mind for us "useless eaters"
I would like to see him Velcroed to one of those blades playing his guitar
With Blinken playing his???? :)
Ed has been around long enough to know the truth. So the question is, whose payroll is he on that pays enough to impoverish the people of his own country?
No doubt getting a nice bung into an off-shore account, from the CCP.
George Soros.
WEF.
Communism is a long journey. We’re at the business end of it now where the aims are to impoverish the common man and enrich the very, very few. Ed gains untold power and riches from the trillion dollar climate industry whilst pretending he’s our saviour.
His own country???😂
Well, I didn’t think anyone could be as inept and downright stupid as Lammy and Abbott, but then comes back stabbing Millipede.
I completely agree with this lady, she really talks sense.
Why is no one with any sense taking her seriously then?
@ianfraser6161 Because the left are in government, don't expect any sense from them!
@@ianfraser6161 A lot of sensible people actually are. You just aren't included in that.
Ed Miliband still failing upwards!
This Lady Lionel Shriver is so right. thank you.
Known as the Miliband Blackout Programme in this household
Labour has a lot of experience in Blackouts in the UK, they know how to cause it so be happy that we have them and their infinite knowledge of keeping us in the dark and cold.
Milliband in charge of energy, is almost as bad as Ed Davey in charge of the post office, we are truly fu#ked.
".. you can't elect a nobody ..." I think we already did!
The tories did it repeatedly though....
A great lady full of common sense backed up by real facts ..
Voting in a state of spite will get the last thing in the world you wanted. This is a spot on assessment of the current mood in the country.
Spite is the only vote you are allowed.
hi lady shriver you are so right fair play girl
@@paulgilliland2992 Well after just a few days in power the chickens are home to roost. The real lunatics are now running the asylum.
@@paulgilliland2992 Yes, Hitchens makes this argument. The issue I have with this way of thinking is that unless people start voting for new parties (e.g. SDP or Reform) we end up where we are currently at. I agree in many regards to your assessment but flip-flopping between Lab and Con is how we are in this situation.
It's BS, the Cons were doing exactly the same things just slower, ultimately every bit as bad as Lab, voting for them is just more of the same, voting for someone else like the SDP or Reform is the only reasonable thing to do, just because enough people haven't come to the realisation ConLab are the same party on a policy basis to get both of them out this time is not an argument for voting for one of these pieces of festering BS.
Firstly they are an eyesore and secondly stop pi**ing in our pockets and telling us it's raining!
Let's cover all fields with solar, wind farms and houses. Why do we need to grow food? This their policy is ridiculous.
They didn't start it tho. 😮
When I was a kid in Britain we used to have milk delivered in bottles and those bottles would be returned to be cleaned and reused. It only stopped because it was cheaper to use a plastic bottle. Maybe it's time to rethink that decision.
Delivered in electric vehicles!
Yes and pop and beer came in bottles and we used to get money back on bottles returned to shops. Surprising how much money we made on bottles found in hedges etc. Plastic in disposable nappies is my bug bear. Use terry nappies. I bought 3 dozen when my first child was born. They lasted through two chdren and were used as floor cloths before being thrown away. Only problem is they need washing. What a hard job that is!!!
We still have milk delivered in bottles and I believe it's on the increase. But unfortunately very few people do this.
Solar panels and wind turbines = manufacturing products that at some point have a product end and need to be disposed of. Recycling/scrapping requires energy as well as the manufacturing. Calculating all this against the energy produced, is it worth it? Compared to small nuclear reactors, it’s not at all competitive. North Sea oil should be used to maintain the current system while we figure out something as significant as nuclear fission.
Solar panels , when they are not any use are sent tom 3d world countries to be put into landfill, not green at all. it is all a massive lie to make more money for the richest people on earth and also to control the populations of the world.
That's the same as saying let's carry on and do nothing.
@@jonescrusher1 Oh right, lets carry on doing something wrong then
@@marcjames3487 Nothing wrong is being done. These are all the usual baseless arguements against renewable energy that have been spouted for years.
They keep telling us renewable energy is cheap' but its not it's a lot more expensive' it would be nice see someone explain how much electricity will cost us when they've built all these wind farms' because no one ever does' plus everything is made in China so where's all these jobs.
There are lots of study’s on the cost of electricity from various sources. Google it and pick your own, every one will say land based wind generation is the cheapest.
@@scottwills4698 they don't add the cost of the back up gas powered power station running continuously in the background.
@@jedjones9047 they include the cost of grid storage to store the power. Gas peaker plants are paid to sit idle unless they are needed anyway. There is a path to a much cleaner smarter grid that doesn’t include gas but that’s years off.
The green fanatics are just that, like religious zealots.
Milliband is such a goon
ahem, excuse me, Labour did not have a massive majority. They've had the lowest majority to get them in on record, is what I heard.
@@vizveebee they have a huge majority
Tell me the last time the winning party got the majority of votes?
You heard wrong. Biggest majority in smallest turnout. It demonstrates exactly how bad the tories became.
20% of the total electorate voted for them.
The lowest number of votes but the biggest majority in parliament.
Sunak was too soft -and apologetic for being conservative. Too many conservatives adopted woke opinions!!!
Nah. We just rejected sunak. He was by far the biggest factor in their election defeat. Just for being Sunak.
No the conservatives were rejected because they became woke, stupid and completely ignored the electorate.
He pushed back net zero, making it essentially a non-issue.
They believed in conserving nothing at all.
oil isnt just for fuel
The first thing a government should do for their populous is ensuring energy security. We should have expected the lefties to stroke the egos of the eco protestors, but to shut down our gas and oil production only ensures that we will be buying energy from foreign parties, and the consumers will foot the bill. "Save The Planet" they say, but still want to use their electrical and electronic devices. The rich politicians can absorb the higher annual costs, but every winter we pensioners have to risk death because of rising gas and electricity prices.
* their populace (they may also be populous, but that is a separate matter)
@@DieFlabbergast Yes, I realised my mistake (damned auto spell-check).
There is only one profit in what you sell then it's gone.
Electric ,sold ,gas sold ,water sold,
Railways sold,
Next to be sold solar panel farms, windmill farms,
To Who?????
Dead Ed needs to tilt his lance like
Don Quixote at windmills.reknaw
@beachcomberbob3496 we got scammed into selling gas and electric.
You never sell your power needs
If only the electorate had had the courage to back Reform UK we would already be in a much better place. Now we have to wait another five years.
I just cannot believe Ed Miliband is back. What are they thinking?
Nobody IS thinking. Therein lies the problem.
Plastics bad enough but what about billions of expensive to recycle ev batteries leaching into the ground it'll be a nightmare.
@@jedjones9047 if one were cynical, one might suggest that they know they're talking bull💩, and they're scamming and terrorising tye public
Labour are going to cost us a fortune
In 1945/46 my mother,along with her fellow soldiers was bussed to Harwell near her camp. They were given a lecture on how marvelous atomic was and here we are almost eighty years later not much to show for it.
Nuclear!
No one wanted labor in. Only 34% oh dear labor is horrid.
How can you say no-one wanted Labour in…the say 34% of voters did?
& only 20% of the electorate!
Counting those who didn't vote, only 20% voted for Labour.
@peterholden3672 52% of those that voted on a 72% turnout equates to 37% (35% voted “remain and, WORST OF ALL, 28% of the electorate couldn’t be bothered.). The non-voters were to blame (as those who wanted to leave made the effort to express their opinion).
@peterholden3672 no, the electorate. “far right”?
Hahahahaha netzero. Lunatics. It will haunt them till their horrible end...
It will haunt us as well
No it won't because they don't care.
No it won't, they'll have their own personal generators and diesel tanks just like the BBC.
Net zero is being dumped by everyone.. just goes to show how bloody ignorant he is.
How many will die because of this?
weeks ago i was sailing off the south east and south coast and i can tell you that i was a number of super massive wind farms, not many were turning from the Thames to Dungeness and across to the Dutch wind farm. Billions spent not a single watt of power for days on end. The UK’s battery farms will have been exhausted within two hours suppling their catchment areas
I voted Reform, fully aware of the risk of letting Labour in, but out of frustration that the Labour/Conservative model was in effect a mono-party, pursuing very similar policies, and we needed a shake up in politics.
We'll no doubt see a dreadful few years under these leftie clowns, but maybe that's what it will take to finally get a government 'for the people'.
Me too.
And so did I, like you I don't reward arrogance, contempt and failure.
@peterholden3672 Well for one, they're against the self-destructive 'net-zero' policy being pushed by Lab/Con; for another they are against the country being swamped by immigrants.
But I expect that you're one of those clowns, who think that these policies are in your best interests, because they told you so.
@peterholden3672 In the sense that many of its members are patriotic nationalists. The other parties are all full of virtue-signalling, metropolitan elites, who see themselves as 'citizens of the world'. Politics tends to attract self-serving, sociopathic types. Nevertheless, their impact will be less amongst people who don't despise Britain and its peoples.
@peterholden3672 Well for one, they're against the self-destructive 'net-zero' policy being pushed by Lab/Con; for another they are against the country being swamped by immigrants.
But I expect that you're one of those, who think that these policies are in your best interests, because they told you so.
To say that we're all immigrants, is a facile argument. Those who are now entering the country, are doing so in unprecedented numbers putting enormous strain on our infra-structure and services. Furthermore they are hostile to our values, refuse to integrate, and bring no skills that might benefit the country.
Milliband reports to the WEF, not to the citizenry.
Renewables are NOT 40% of energy used. They are 40% of Electricity generated. What is more the about half of that renewable is generated by burning rubbish and wood pellets from north American forests.
About 17% of energy in the UK is electricity. That means that we will need six times the generating capacity we currently have (but it's not growing it's shrinking). We will also need six times the distribution, so six times the aluminium and at least six times the copper currently in use (put in use over many decades not just a few years). Note: according to the BBC wind and solar require seven times the copper of traditional generating methods so NetZero may require up to 42 times that currently in use.
Energy requirements are set to increase. EVs are heavier, so require more energy than ICEVs but also are run on Apps, charging requires WiFi, the apps require data centres which use hinge amounts of energy. CBDCs require an ever increasing set of data centres, ever more energy.
We need more people like Lionel Shriver to speak about the said issues.
What a prat
His mum must like him🤣
@@michaelbeavis6634 yeah but not his brother!
@@michaelbeavis6634 Hmmm, the jury's out on that.
I agree with Lionel that renewables will never be able to 'cut the mustard' when it comes to supplying reliable energy. We've already had a 20% increase in our UK energy bills due to this cult of Netzero, etc.
Shriver talks a lot of sense, hopefully the labour politicians will listen to this article 👍🏻
Ms Shriver's observations that net zero targets/aspirations are little more than a sham together with her concerns for pollution and poor recycling practises are extremely prescient and correct.
Meanwhile in Asia (China specifically) where I work, they are building 90-120 Cities of between 5-10 million people. They've recently constructed a railway in inner Mongolia to move 777 million tons of coal a year to power plants. Politicians are elected to do what's in the interests of their people, not introduce damaging virtue signalling policies under the spurious belief that they're 'saving the planet'.
China deployed more renewable energy than the rest of the world combined last year.
Also
The government are acutely aware of the pollution problems and encroaching desertification
Yeh but China are big on Nuclear too?, and also use green energy?... guessing the coal is to produce the solar panels and wind turbines our green loons think are made by magic pixies out of fairy dust.
So good to the Spectator is taking the side of common sense and at least, discussing the stupidity of so called ' Climate ' policies. Natural cycles will do what it will, regardless of man's ' intervention '.
Yawn. Really this could be the most risible comment ever.....😂😂
Lionel Shriver understands these issues in depth. Impressive.
We are told that Net Zero refers to carbon emissions, what it really refers to is economic activity.
The politicians on all sides did this with power stations, shunting down stations leaving the UK needing to import energy and huge cost.
We survived during the Edward Heath government of three day working weeks and working by candle light ehen there were blackouts.
We did not all die off. We just changed and adapted our behaviour.
I have no problem with Milliband ensuring Labour loose the next election.
I worry that their funeral procession will be walking over the bones of frozen pensioners. I hope not ,but these net zero morons have no common sense.
Sheer lunacy - Milliband should be sectioned under the Mental Health Acts
Who voted labour.
they are on a 4 year trial period
@@c.c.8841 NO they are on a 4yr wrecking period. They are handing the UK over to the corrupt WEF they will destroy the UK with immigration. Get real
Only 20% of the total electorate.
No thanks!
@@lmg7503 34% of the electorate, the usual gimmi your money brigade!
The reason British energy bills are higher are because of millibands green tariffs that he introduced in the last labour govt and the tories did not remove them either. Also the wind farms produce a fraction of what a nuclear power station would and in the 14 years the tories were in power we could have at least 5 built meaning cheaper energy for the whole of the UK for at least 50 years.
This interview is one of the most sensible and accurate regarding energy in the UK.
I’m ok with duplicating the power system to reduce pollution but get real about NetZero.
A … UK emissions per year = 400 million tons (gov.uk)
B … CO2 required to increase global temperature by one degree C = 1 million million tons (IPCC)
Divide A by B to get the reduction in global temperature if UK achieved Net Zero.
Answer; 0.0004 degrees Centigrade per year.
That’s four ten-thousandths of one degree C per year.
California is also 0.0004 … Australia 0.0005 degrees C per year.
The idea that NetZero can achieve anything wrt climate is clearly false … delusional.
Plus the whole idea is a lie. I have researched it 1000s of hours. It's total bs.
@@Hickalum - when the maths show what is a commonsensical result - anthropogenic climate change is a lie; it’s obvious the governments do not work for us or for the benefit of the Planet. They work for the benefit of the Billionaires who aim to own the Planet. They want to make ordinary people live much smaller lives, ideally using as little irreplaceable earth resources as possible. So global warming / climate change is the narrative designed to persuade ordinary people to accept higher taxes and lower standards of living.
It is not irrational or alarmist to warn of power outages if we pursue the insanity of nut-zero. It is not for nothing that my local power network company has taken it upon itself to deliver a leaflet to all homes called "Preparing for power cuts". So there you have it, the network itself is telling you it is going to happen.
That clip with the guitar is like a sketch from Brass Eye. What that!
What a fantastic interview . We need people like her in government.
Lionel is (as usual) absolutely spot on about the effects of Milibands ideological pursuit. You would have thought that Starmer by now would have stepped in - I was told Starmer is quite intelligent. No sign of that intelligence on overviewing Milibands policies. Miliband will wreck the economy - are you listening Kier?
By the way, black outs also come from overloading the grid by having too much electricity being generated when the power is not needed. The grid becomes destabilised.
he got B,B,C in his A levels as a scholarship kid apparently, at a private schl (Reigate Grammar became private whilst he was there).
I dunno how they choose but I know someone working high up in the crown prosecution service who got no A levels, and was academically pretty challenged.
seems strange.
The Mad professor Ed Miliband is absolutely bonkers lock him up before it is too late.
Who dug up Milliband ?
Lionel is the reason the world looks to the US for leadership and hope God bless you Lionel and all those who are trying to bring reason and sanity back.
He really is a pratt! We need referenda
on all these changes.
Has anyone in that area seen a reduction in energy charges?
Thought not..
Managed decline, is that all that's left?
Except we're not managing the decline.
Not a fan of renewable energy in general, for all the reasons the lady stated, but tidal should be reliable. As for glass bottles, this was always done in the 1970's with milk and soda bottles in the UK.
And 50s and 60s!
When its windy, but when it isn't you pay anyway. Offshore wind speeds are far higher on shore its costly unreliable dreamstime
It does kill more birds though!
God save us from politicians.
When gas prices surged because Russia restricted supply, the only true reliable & useful renewable energy - nuclear, was in short supply because Britain built no new power stations. In 2010 Nick Clegg ruled out doing so as they wouldn’t be operational until the early 2020s - exactly when they would have been very handy. Politicians do not do forward planning competently.
Gas prices soared when the USA blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline
Wow, because what the UK needs is less energy and less industry
Omg how great are things going to get now. Energy bills are going to go up x x4. No one knows how bad its going to get now for normal people.
Correct. You don't just turn nuclear on. You don't easily decomission them either. Nor do you easily find somewhere to store nuclear waste which is dangerous for hundreds of years.
What about the people who will loose their jobs, they don't seem to matter to politicians, they don't care about the people!
there is no mandate for this, over 60% voted for parties other than Labour
When it comes to climate change, net zero, fossil fuels, and all that malarky, this is the most sensible discourse I've heard for a very long time. Lionel Shriver's opening remarks scored a bullseye at the outset: Shutting down North Sea exploration tackles the supply side of the equation, not the demand side. Doing away with our own capacity to supply has no effect on demand, it merely means that we have to import a lot more oil, gas etc.
On a slightly different tack, I don't think politicians should be allowed to dabble in things in which they have no expertise, let alone be made Secretary of State. In Milliband's case, these include self-accompanied singing and making decisions that should be left to scientists and engineers. How many MPs on either side of the House are qualified in science and/or engineering? No doubt there are a handful, but the last one I can recall, who I knew was qualified in a scientific field, was Margaret Thatcher. She was the last one I KNEW about - as I say, there have been, and probably still are, a few others; Milliband is not one of them.
And their advisors are STEM deficient.
@@NorfolkSceptic True. And if a project requires scientific/engineering expertise, the Secretary of State must be qualified to assess his/her advisors, otherwise nobody gets anywhere. We don't expect the Sec of State to design the whole project himself (assuming it's a man, which Ed Milliband is), but he must be capable of vetting his would-be advisors and support staff. That's the way it works in industry, but not (so it appears) in government.
Why would he stop oil and gas. It will cost british people more. As we will have to import it. Does he not care about british people
Does Milliband think wind turbines lubricate them selves. The existing 11000 turbines require over 10 million litres of oil every time the oil is changed, which will likely happen three times during their 20 year life. Building more turbines while stopping more oil exploration is pure lunacy.
@malcky630 Exxon Mobil website state between 200 and 1400 litres depending on the size of turbine. A lot of the modern turbines being installed are now 5kW the largest ever made, and will require the most oil. Some will argue that they use synthetic oil, but that still requires mineral oil as a base lubricant, and to distill the synthetic additives needed to make the oil.
@malcky630 It is also used to cool the generators!
Net Zero is not an accident or virtue signalling
Follow the money
Who is making/going to make huge profits from the madness
Its not stupidity, its corruption
The grid needs to be powered up at all times, so, for the small amount of electricity the wind and solar supply, if there wasn't a constant 50 hertz in those cables above you, nothing, absolutely nothing would work. That is, no conventional power stations no electricity, it's as simple as that.
"...for the fossilable future".
I also left my heating off this winter. I couldn't afford to run it.
People will soon start to starve and freeze as a result of NetZero.
I’m pro nuclear and in Shriver’s side, but gotta say in this interview she’s very hesitant and doesn’t make a robust case.
On nuclear it’s not “pretty safe”, Lionel! It’s THE SAFEST. On per unit electricity generated, even safer than solar and wind.
70% of the grid in France is nuclear. Energy bill price hikes were capped at 5% - so the French homeonwver has been protected from the market by a semi nationalised electric supply.
These turbine will never pay for themselves. As they cost to much they only last 20 year they will be standing all over the country as the cost to take down ,is not he costing like sole panal farms will be left to rot wait and see left standing