How that $315,000 Datsun 240Z filled a hole in someone’s heart - The Carmudgeon Show - Ep. 14
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- In this episode, Jason and Derek contemplate a recent BringATrailer auction where a 1971 Datsun 240Z sold for $315,000 ($310,000 plus fees.)
It’s a well-known thing in the collector car world that rarity is often a multiplier for any inherently desirable car’s value. It’s simple supply and demand. It follows, then, that cars produced in extremely limited numbers, like the Toyota 2000GT, would be expensive, but mass-produced common cars like the Datsun 240Z wouldn’t.
Except for one factor; cars that were once common and cheap often suffer from high attrition rates; and when they reach collectible age, nostalgia puts a big price premium. In the case of this 240Z, Derek Tam-Scott postulates that the difference between this car’s rational value (at max, $150,000) and its actual sale price (double that) is due to that effect.
Additionally, as Hagerty pointed out in a recent meeting, Japanese cars were largely ignored by Baby Boomers, and as Gen X and Millennials gradually begin to drive collector-car prices, Japanese cars are poised to do well. Jason Cammisa agrees, and adds that cars prevalent in video games (like the Cosworth Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evo II and Nissan Skyline) will experience huge values because of their presence there.
The boys also discuss cars similar to the 240Z, such as the Nissan Fairlady Z432, a Japanese-market Z with the Prince S20 racing engine from the original Hakosuka Skyline GT-R, the Jaguar E-Type and its Lightweight variants. And Jason recounts a recent story of his Scirocco 16V gathering attention on the streets because it once was such a common shape but disappeared so slowly that people don’t realize the hole in the heart - until they see one and the flood of memories come back.
Long story short: despite this unexpected auction result, a car’s value is still related to rarity. But we can add “scarcity” to that for cars that were once common but are now rare.
The Carmudgeon Show is a comedic, information-filled conversation with Jason Cammisa and Derek Tam-Scott, two car enthusiasts who are curmudgeonly beyond their years. Proving you don’t have to be old to be grumpy, they spend each episode talking about what’s wrong with various parts of the automotive universe. Despite their best efforts to keep it negative, they usually wind up laughing, happy, and extolling their love for cars. Which just makes them angrier and more bitter.
Jason Cammisa is an automotive journalist, social-media figure, and TV host with over 250 million views on TH-cam alone. Jason’s deeply technical understanding, made possible by a lifelong obsession with cars, allows him to fully digest what’s going on within an automobile - and then put it into simple terms for others to understand. Also, a Master’s Degree in Law trained him to be impossible to argue with.
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I own every Car and Driver since 1987, write about cars for a living, and Derek blows my mind with his knowledge. Unreal.
He looks so young, it blows my mind how he has amassed that much knowledge
@@shidous I think he's 30-ish? not a baby, but certainly younger than 99% of folks who can rattle-off E-type history!
@@oldcarproblems3332 etypes were beautiful cars but overhyped. Extremely unreliable and temperamental when driven normally.
They normally talk about stuff they know
@@xeong5 The modern take of them (Eagle E-Type, with BMW engine, six-speed manual transmission and a perfect 50/50 weight distribution) is a wild ride, I can only imagine the real E-Types
Like RegularCarReviews sad 'my corvette is best corvette'
I still don't know how Jason and Derek manage to pump out these amazing episodes with a warehouse full of amazing cars. Keep it up boys, cheers.
Thanks!
Is that a Fiesta ST in your profile pic???
@@johnbacon4997 Yes sir!
I'd like to see somebody on bring a trailer claim: 1 of 12 cars that has never been farted in.
haha
I’d fart in an expensive car simply on principle.
DTS has wayyyyyy too much car knowledge knocking around in that head of his. It's borderline insane.
This is exactly what TH-cam needed!
True passionate and knowledgeable car people having interesting conversations.
I learn something new every single episode!
That’s a big change from the rich kid showing off downtown driven supercars or the arguably knowledgeable reviewer pampered by the manufacturers..
*Me:* "Dang, I just watched the last video in my playlist and I have some time to kill. Whatever shall I do?"
*_refreshes youtube_*
*_new Carmudgeon podcast has just been posted_*
*Me:* Yesssssssssssss!!!
As for the 240Z, I think DT'-/S is spot on: the 240Z's appeal comes with younger car culture; despite its age, it came packaged to us alongside AE86s, Skyline GT-Rs, and Supras in Initial D and Midnight Club. The 2000GT went with the "baby boomer market" because the 2000GT aped the european sports cars of the 60s; that's how the 2000GT was allowed in with the old crowd, but the 240Z wasn't.
The exact same reaction I had to seeing this on my home page
"metricfucktonnes of money". My new favourite saying.
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This is my favorite show currently on any format.
Agree, what do you drive Hee?
@@johnbacon4997 W212 E350 daily. Gen 6 Camaro ZL1 and R129 SL500 fun combo. I have an odd combination of cars. Lol.
@@heekim3373 Awesome dude. I'm a broke college kid so I drove a Tiguan. It's on a golf platform so it's more fun than a lot of SUVs.
that 240 was only sold at that price for cause money laundering, same with like all modern art
Bad pickup line, Is DTS DTF?
Though on 2000GT, could being a Bond car be a reason why it boomed by the boomers?
240z 's are in every racing game that I play, and I really want one
If this trend continues for the 240z, I can easily see the 240sx in the same territory in 20 years. They are dropping like flies and even now finding a clean one is next to impossible. They hold the same place in young people's heart as the z did in it's day.
Totally agree. They were everywhere when I was in my late teens, early 20's. Everything from nice ones to clapped out ones. Now they are a very uncommon sight.
Not sure I agree with this as they were fairly uninspiring to drive without mods.
Clean ones are definitely hard to find though. I'm in Japan and they are all either rotting or have been given "nissaids" by their 11ty billion former owners.
Often both.
240Z (Fairlady Z) was the hero car in the Wangan Midnight anime and Maxi Tune arcade games
Finally a man of culture
DEVIL Z
@@johnbacon4997 AKUMA NO ZETTO
You've forgotten to say how much TH-cam can affect car values (pronounced journalism) now and especially in the future... just saying .. trust me it is happening...
"Troy and Abed in the morning."
240Z have been in multiple racing games and sims since they have such historical racing background.
I do find it peculiar that two knowledgeable men have a hard time coming to grips with basic economics though. I do believe you finally came to the correct conclusion that they are more popular with the Y,X and Millennial generation, some due to games others because our parents owned them. The fact being there is also a question of need! When the 2000GT and E-types of this world are too expensive to own or drive people will turn to other options. So rising demand since these 3 generations are slowly gaining greater economical potential and a declining offer due to Z rusting out, getting bent over a telephone pole, etc. = rising value in the future. Is 315 000 fucking stupid yes. At the end of the day you could rebuild one from scratch for that price. And don't give me that crap that it wouldn't be factory built, 70's construction is not that glorious to start with.
Then you start seeing people doing cool restorations and modifications and all of a sudden you start a small following which grows and grows and grows. If you look at the available cars in the US market from the 70's that are considered sports cars and that were still easily purchasable a decade ago, what are the options. I mean you can forget the muscle or pony cars; a stupid rusted out mustang frame had a higher asking price then most small modern subcompacts. European sports cars, well the Italians are inabordable, the E-types are covered, Austins and MGs, well unreliable one and still overly expensive. The Germans...
Then we get you idiots, I love you guys, but I do believe you are 100% part of the problem! "The analog feel! Nothing today feels like this! Above 5000 rpm it's like wasabi and cocaine!" And then I have to go and drive my Hyundai Elantra... Yeah I'm fuckin' feelin' alive here! Woopy fuckin' do! You get what I mean, you think I don't want some of that pasty green dynamite for breakfast? You guys create hype; you're hype machines; you make these desirable! And for that I am forever greatful! I wouldn't want these to be forgotten, I believe you are right, they are little jewels of the past, they are some of the best set back memory buttons. For those who enjoy cars for the noisy simple yet complicated things they are, for the love of the hassle of maintaining them, for the sheer pleasure of listening to another tuned engine passing you by, for the enjoyment of spending a nice weekend wrenching on your engine or cleaning your baby, thank you for carmudgeoning on and on.
240Z is sought after and desirable because of Wangan Midnight. And also because they are simply beautiful cars.
Double clutching like he should 👌🏾
And double revmatching like a BOSS
Loving this discussion, it's super interesting. And it engenders a question: I recently bought an '09 Aston V8 Vantage 6MT coupe because 1) Jason recommended it a few years ago, and 2) it's a fantastic sports car. Not for any rarity factor. After I bought it, though, someone told me it's one of only 30 Vantages made in Speed Yellow (of which I have no idea how many were coupes with manual transmissions). Do you think that'll affect its value?
I don't want to own a car I'm afraid to drive because of its value.
Kalepsis drive it an enjoy it. If it ends up being valuable, cool. V8Vs in general are pretty easy to find so I don’t anticipate any short term value spike. Maybe someday but I wouldn’t bet the farm on it and certainly wouldn’t deprive myself of motoring joy on the off chance that someday transpires.
@@Dtamscott Thanks, DThyphenS. I always get good advice from you guys.
Does your Vantage has a 4.7V8 or a 4.3V8?
@@subarnosinha8042 I've got the more powerful and more reliable 4.7L. That's the main reason I bought a 2009 instead of an earlier model. And what an engine it is, too; it sounds glorious, especially with fuse 22 removed.
@@Kalepsis bigger engine, better engine 👍 Does the removal of fuse 22 frees up any extra horses?
I own a very sweet 240Z restomod. Just the way I like it, very similar to the Devil Z. I get people in their 20's telling me it's their dream car. I'm just glad I can still drive it. Not too worried about the future value. The present value is there's nothing else like driving a nicely setup S30.
Master Plan: Bring worldwide recognition to myself or my dealership. How? 'Sell' a pristine, vintage collector car for three times what it was worth, so far out of the realm of reality that it creates a constant buzz of interest. Exactly how? Take advantage of the BAT format of no paper transaction paper trail and line up your schill bidders to manipulate the sale. So it didn't sell for anything close to that amount? Um bingo Wait! Who bought it? A friend,a relative, or anyone with an interest for down the road. What about the BAT commission? $5,000 cap. Very inexpensive way to market yourself or your business and get maximum exposure. In some sales, the buyer is actually the seller. Remember, NO paper trail. If it smells like a rat.....
I'm 31. All the cars I grew up wanting are way out of my price range now. However, I am hoping as the boomers die off pre-war cars become worthless again and I can buy them all. Where is my goddamn Talbot-Lago?
In 30yrs people will consider pontiac azteks collectable.... the Walter White generation.
I love this show and listen to it as soon as it drops but for the LOVE of God please fix your sound mixing, the sound is way too low so I turn the volume way up and when you shout or raise your voices in anyway I damn near get a heart attack and blows my ears out. Please fix it our beloved discount Adam Sandler
JDM culture is blowing up like never before.... I think it has to do with the fact they are so customable and very little computer set controls.
i still maintain a worked L28 with a big cam, tripple webbers and a nice exhaust is a fantastic sounding engine.
Also, I never thought about the video game angle for Japanese cars but for me, what stands out most as the thing that drives the value of Japanese cars now is tuner culture. Tuner culture was way more pervasive with Japanese cars and magazines like Super Street, Speedhunters, Option etc that drove cult followings. We couldn’t afford German cars so we bought Japanese cars and modified them to perform like German cars. Anyone could buy a Japanese shitbox and modify it so my entire generation has a major affinity for Japanese cars that led them to learn more about the history of Japanese cars.
I'm still waiting for my "rare" Dodge Aspen to rise in value 🤣
Enjoy your show and I owned a 240Z in the early eighties a great car , in the seventies they were called a Japanese copy of an E-Type .
All the 90s Japanese classics have seen huge attrition rates due to low prices but also due to overmodification. The tragic irony is there are almost certainly less good FD RX-7s and JZA80 Supras left than Ferrari F355s, even though the Ferraris were produced in much lower numbers. NSXs were spared somewhat since they never became truly cheap and weren't viewed as a modification platform as much, but Z32 300ZXs, forget about it. 75,000+ were imported to North America alone and there are very few around in good condition.
I bet there are less good Z32s, FDs, and Supras left combined than there are 993 911s.
It was a buyer for whom $315K means nothing.
I also think the 2000GT is an exception because it was Bond car.
I bought my '73 240Z in 2007 for $5500 (not original color, not matching #'s); couldn't hope to pay less than 2-3x that now! Big regret selling that car. Even crappy 280ZX's are riding the coattails of the 240Z price surge >:-(
It's 00:45 here in the UK. And, I'm staying up to watch this.
Sorry, not sorry? :)
It was a totally interesting topic and I happily stayed up!
I farted in my cobalt this morning just lost half its value
Derek: ハコスカ
Jason: Hako-cyka
Bring this comment up, boys!
Did you guys see that Z432R that went for USD800k in Japan a few weeks ago?
I was just about to say the same thing. I was waiting for them to bring it up while watching.
What would you think the modern equivalent of the “poster on the wall” is right now? Is it still video games?
Took you long enough to upload.... This show is the Shit
No idea how these videos dont do crazy numbers, maybe they should wear shorts and make aweful videos about quirks and features of the amazing machines in the background
The 2 of you have such car knowledge it's crazy. Great content. I will say 315k is closer to 458 Speciale money not quite there but close and no way I would take the 240Z over that. I would also choose a 458 Italia for 170k now and a RS6 for 125k over this 240Z. They are great cars and I love the 240Z, 300Z and many more nissan cars. Just don't think they are worth that much.
Jason Camissa seems to have a PhD in cars. Amazing knowledge.
Currently restoring a 240z. Cant wait to drive it again. That straight 6 is just so pure. Bought in 2019.
Great for 240Z coverage, i owned a 77 280Z that was silky-smooth with white interior & factory a/c 5spd even back then (1978) people loved the Z so much so it was stolen and was found parted out.
I have watched the prices and 30 to 60 Grand has been the stratosphere "WTF".
Paul Newman in a "Z" is still an awsome picture.
By the way speaking of 4dr sedans the 500E is still a sleeper.
Hello. I'm late to this but wanted to share my take: In 1992 at age 20 I returned home from the Navy and purchased my first car ever: A 1978 Datsun 280Z. I learned to work on it, raced in it, nearly killed myself in it; all that said, I was just a young man with no $ and after a run of engine repairs I sold it. - FAST FORWARD 5 years and I found a lime yellow 1972 240z in a back yard with MINT INTERIOR. I missed my 280 and snatched it up. Rebuilt it, new paint job etc over 5 years and a kid ran a red light and T-boned it; insurance gave me a pittance check and I could NEVER afford to get into another Z after that. 4 Years later I became a Merchant Marine and sailed for 15 years, building a home, family etc and JUST THIS MONTH I recalled my fathers sad story about the Austin Healey he sold and never was able to purchase, so I looked at 240Z's and fell off of my chair! "I'm going to be like my father and never get back my childhood car!" I thought (especially after seeing one on Ebay for 99,500.00) - Desperate, I looked all night online and found a 1971 Datsun 240Z in 90% restoration for 19,000.00 !!! I grabbed it up! I CAN'T WAIT TO SIT INSIDE AND SMELL IT!
Although, my heart is with the lime yellow 1972 240z (I was born in 72 so it's a weird thing) I am happy to get another 240z, and I MUST SAY, if I had a GRIP OF MONEY and found a PERFECT LIME YELLOW 1972 240Z The price wouldn't matter! This car is a part of me!
You forgot to tell Japanese Anime is the motor of the JDM and the drift tax in the american market. So the 240Z is the protagonist called "Devil-Z" in "Wangan Midnight club", the toyota AE86 is the protagonist of the drift anime "Initial Z" inspired by the story of Keichii Tsuchiya.
Maybe the nerdy kids who were into anime during high-school, later became tech-money milionnaires. Why not just import them from japan?
The video game influence was bigger than a lot of people think. The video game popularity is what drove Subaru and then Mitsubishi to bring the WRX/STi and Evo to the US, and Nissan with the GT-R, etc. The MkIV Supra values are inflated because of the popularity spike from The Fast and Furious franchise (🤮), the R34 GT-R value is inflated because of the Gran Turismo video game series. (And I know R34 and MkIV have much lower production numbers than previous generations, but the prices of those two aren't correlated to the increased rarity; the film/game popularity is what causes the differential... look at FD3S and Mitsu 3000GT VR-4 prices in comparison).
thigs that i belive will go up in value:
Smart roadster (a lot have been trashed or make into trackday convertions)
2009-2010 Pontiac Solstice coupe GPX
370Z if the analogueness of the next gen disapears
M2 CS, not sure if the comp but is pretty good car
wingless 911 gt3s and the 911 touring
Alfa Gulia QV
the wagons (specailly the sporty ones)
The factor about the 240z, which they are missing, is that even though American Boomers don't generally take Japanese cars seriously as collectables, the 240z and it's brother, the 510, are exceptions, because they had a serious racing heritage in the United States in their day. Actor Paul Newman was a very successful race driver of these cars during the 1970's. No other Japanese cars were raced in the American market back then. The Skyline was not available in the US, and although cool & sporty, the Toyota Celica of the 1970's, didn't really lend itself to being a race car and the other Japanese makes, didn't realy have anything to offer, as far as racing, until Mazda a me out with it's RX-7 in the late '70's/early '80's.
Another factor is, that both the 510 & 240z were popular in their day in America with hot rodders and customizers, a generation before there was massive interest in many different Japanese cars, as far as customizing and hot rodding, etc go.
The fact, that the economy in America has picked up so much in the last couple of years, along with the fact, that there are 3 generations interested in 240z's, Boomers, X-Generation, and Millennials came together with a little bit of luck and pushed the price of 240z's up. The racing heritage to the Boomers, is kind of like the video game factor is for Gen X & Millennial. I do remember an early arcade racing game from around 1975, which was a "Z" ar themed game. It was in the days, when video game arcades were getting to be a big thing, before the home video games got more advanced, than just Pong or Odyssey.
Plot twist; the person who bought this 240z owns multiple of them in similar shape, and bought them in the "low" five fugure range. Why? You invest 200k overprice on one example and BOOM; your whole inventory just went up in value.
Rare DOES NOT equal valuable, there's A LOT of rare cars that are not valued very high. For rarity to contribute to value it must first be desired by more buyers then there are cars. To be desired by enough people it has to first be known about by enough people. There's a lot of very rare cool cars that people with money to spend just don't know exist, are good etc. This is why the rare versions of popular models are so valuable. But rare models and vehicles from unusual makers are rarely valuable do to their rarity. The rarity works against them as they are too rare to be known.
For example just about any Studebaker, even a super rare, cool, fast etc version like a R2 Avanti or Goldenhawk, not that valuable. I own a one of a kind version of a popular model, super expensive new, less were made then Boss 9s, of those very few survive, and it was owned by a famous actress, not very valuable at all, and frankly very hard to sell. Why, not enough people know what it is to know they want it. Every time I drive it I don't get "OMG it's a _____" I get "that's cool, what is it".
They make it look so easy: two men seated round a table, talking about cars, surrounded by cars... yeah, well, you could watch a lifetime of Top Gear, learn less, and be less entertained (okay, except when Chris Harris drives...).
Never got to drive a 240Z, but back in the early 70s I did beat one out for first place at the local autocross (driving a friend’s 3.8 E-Type). Thems was the days.
The 240z was made to race against the Toyota 2000GT . Look at the Light weight body and Large fuel filler.
Add some engine work , Triples carbs , Big cam and good pipes and you have a monster.
Gran Turismo was the only way for many people to see or experience many of the JDM cars. Skyline became a household name after that, and fawned over like the Porsche, Lamborghini and Ferrari that we had on our walls and in, say, Test Drive 2 or Outrun
It's worth what someone, anyone is willing to pay for it at a given point in time. It's a snapshot of the collector car world. Cars get "hot" and cars "cool off" with demand. The SAME cars before, during and after.
I typed "240z 432" in the TH-cam search bar and the 4th result is "$253,000! 1970 Nissan Fairlady Z 432
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240Z as beautiful as 2000GT? No way Jasin. Check your eyes. Classic, maybe. Beautiful, not.
the only other z I can see getting that price is mr. k's car, but I would be really shocked if 432 prices don't go up now. As much as I would like the value of my two s30s to go up I think it was just a fluke
7 figures, more than 1000 - F40...
Ģirts Bērziņš great call. I knew there was another but couldn’t recall it.
29:22 I agree that video games are a big reason why they liked jdm cars. But I think in general in that time period the Japanese where having a all out assault on western kids to sell them video games, toys and Anime. Pokemon is the biggest intellectual property money wise in the world for example. I think this is caused kids to really like stuff from Japan in general whatever it is.
I'm a huge gear head (have my owned my share of gear head cars) but I'm also someone who can see that this is an example of wealthy people having a pissing contest over a car that is clearly not worth $315K. Couldn't that money be put to better use or maybe spread the wealth a little?
Do you have the contact info for that Z buyer? I have a 1983 Celica with a brush-painted hood that I will part with for a low $250,000.
Bring a Trailer brings stupid money for lots of cars. Clean decent mileage mid 90s F series pickups regularly go for the price of a new one.
i get all of jason's points, but damn, you gotta be crazy to take a very very nice z over a 458... you just got to be crazy,,,
“My car is one of only 326 made in this color that came with dealer-installed wheel locks”- Every Corvette Owner Ever
E46 M3 GTR (Need For Speed Most Wanted hero car) R34 Skyline/Supra (Fast N Furious)
If there's one car as kid I was taught to lust after in the classifieds of the early 2000s it's a 240 but Jason is right they could have a had a 240 gt3rs for that money
i dont know shi!t, but the 240 kinda fills some kind of muscle car gap for the younger generation.
The difference is Jason's or Derek's dad didn't lease this exact same car when they were a kid. Ok, minus the rocker stripe, but I think that was a dealer installed option.
I love the chat and debate and all but please god make some videos with all the cars that are in the background...!!!! Please!!!
When I hear something that sold for way to much sounds like the art world where it's some kind of tax invasion, laundry or store of value.
I don't really agree with the 30 to 50 year window. There are definitely cars older than that worth a lot because of the story they carry. Like this is the fastest car in the 20s that was the first time shown in a color movie.
Look no further than the Devil Z from Wangan Midnight. That Anime series is the sole reason I want a 240z
If rarity is such a factor, shouldn't the 260Zs have the highest value?
We are in not only a collector car bubble but an automotive bubble due to supply chain issues. It's going to come tumbling down and a lot of people are going to lose their shirts.
Cool fact. First video game to be based on a actual car was the darsun 280z Zzap .
When did the prices start heating up? 6 yrs ago? Like when this video came out th-cam.com/video/EO2y_-vpolA/w-d-xo.html
Pacer amazing? Maybe amazingly ugly. Sure that angle was nice, but the car is pretty ugly.
If Jason can compare to Clarkson.... DTS .... is like James May
Though there were millons made, I suspect mint condition Datsun 510s will go up in value because so few have survived. And they have a racing history.
That'd be great, but I doubt it, they aren't sexy and cool. It's not that cool if you have to constantly explain why it's cool.
So my take away is that 1 mft (metric fuck ton) = 315,000 USD?
Jason, I so hope you're wrong about the Pacer. That thing is hideous.
This was an auction right? The stranger part is somebody was bidding against him?
Great episode! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
DTS- I think that the phrase is, "I know fuck all".
F40 prob the only other 1000+ production 7 figure car
My God the sound of that E Type. I can't not smile listening to it.
It’s so funny, I thought old 240s were junk when I was a kid because of Bruce Almighty. Now they have ones on BaT going for a large portion of Saleen S7 money
240z wasnt a video game icon but it was huge in JDM anime.
DT-S is a bank of knowledge. Good to have him on the show!
That Jaguar E-type sounds heavenly.
That e type. Oh my fucking God.❤❤
Come on Jason.... U are playing GT like all of us
Camisa and I are only 1 year apart in age. However, the only 2 cars from the 80s that I aspire to own are 1986-87 S7 Turbo and an F40. That’s it! I am very heavy on the 90s cars, which consequently I have been buying for the last 5 years by now.
That time of week again 😍
Somebody called somebody this morning and said " Let's wear our hoodies!!!!" Re that Datsun, there no NO WAY that was an arms length transaction. Someone is trying to pump the market. Re: the Gt, The GT-R, The 432 Z : Millennials are NOT chasing RHD Japanese market cars that were never imported into the US when they were in their youth. Cars gaining value due to attrition: BMW 535i/is Series between 1985 and 1988; BMW 318ti 5 speed 1995-1999; Mercedes 190e/300e 1987-1993 and w126 S Class Series II 1989-1991. Nobody saved these cars.....until now.
Option 1: The buyer had $100M in diamonds / heroin / bearer bonds stashed in the car.
Option 2: the VIN contains the coordinates of the secret Mayan / Inca / Nazi gold treasure.
Option 3: it's actually a Transformer and Optimus Prime bought it
.... please, do continue
CELICA GT4!!! In the 90’s I saw them flying through the woods in WRC with Castrol and Marlboro liveries on them, and now they’re SO rare. Dream car for sure.