@@tintin6291 Lol you think the reason people aren't playing is because the game doesn't have player collision. What are you smoking bro? The reason people aren't playing is plain and simple: 1. Desync and shot reg are horrible. 2. Game is still in early access. 3. There has been almost no content added since release.
@@tintin6291 most people don't gaf about collision why are you pretending like they do- i'd be curious to know why you even care about something as nuanced as that lo
@@supernice_auto your not a halo player then. All real halo players don't play halo infinite. They all left so of course nobody complains because it won't change
@@tintin6291 that might be one of the dumbest things i've ever read LMAO yeah bro i'm not a 'real' halo player because i play halo and you don't- that makes a lot of sense lmaooo all the halo pros are also fake halo players but you're a real halo player, got it.
I fully believe that you, Shyway, are responsible for the lion share of Infinite's movement meta evolution. 343 would do well to pay attention. Happy you're back!
yes because most competitive people don't like halo ifniite. they liked halo 5. only a few are willing to drag themselves thru the mud to create content for this game and those who do create content have partnerships with halo in some form. if the game was as technical as he claims then many of the best fps players would be making videos on it.
@@tintin6291 Not true. A game can be technical and more competitive but less successful - see 2007 Shadowrun the most skill based FPS to ever exist. Infinite has no casual fans or audience and therefore isnt worth playing for most pros unless you just love the game or a top 4 team.
Honestly bro, your analysis is so top notch as always , your an asset for the halo community hands down. Great video . Max skills also. Also totally agree halo has always been much more skillful and unforgiving than all other fps shooters . Specifically halo 2 >all
I love this kind of videos, because it gives me a better understanding and insight of how these mechanics works so I can apply them into my Forge maps later this year, so thanks! 😄👍 It would be great if you could do a deep dive about all Equipments in the game, if there are more to them than expected 🤔
And perhaps how you/the player(s) could combine the Equipments together just like in Overwatch how you can combine the Ults together. If that's a thing in Halo with the Equipments that is, because I’ve never seen it🤔 Well kind of in Halo 3 though
I always wondered why I couldnt get some of these slides.. it is 100% that upward momentum for me, I don't think I would have noticed that on my own.. thanks Shyway!
This channel inspired me to get more competitive. Already going from 3:4/1:1 to 3:2/2:1 consistently in social games. Thank you!!!! Excited to level up some more
I really enjoy seeing you make this content. Please don't ever stop. Even if I never nail these mechanics, I'm closer to doing it with this information than I would ever be without it
At work now. But def watching tonight when I get home! Glad to see you back!! I hope you're doing well man and sorry that you had to deal with all the drama recently.
This is my favorite thing about Infinite.. compared to other halo games.. and I've been playing since CE all nighters on Lan with my big brother and his friends when I was 7
I love hitting the super slide off the cafe spawn next to the AR on streets (usually towards PD). You fly back to your team half the time and saves valuable seconds and lives.
Controller does have access to some beautiful movement not presently possible on keyboard widening the skill crevasse that is the input gap. Keyboards only have access to 8 way digital input, so you're going full speed in whichever direction you're inputting, which is why keyboard movement can be kinda speedy, but lacks the ability to manipulate directional velocity to do precise ledge line ups However this is only because the way the game currently registers game inputs, it does not allow for analog keyboards or mixed input peripherals. If the game allowed for analog key input, or like a keypad with a joystick on it, you could unlock some pretty insane movement technical skill ceiling.
Trying these movement techniques in campaign makes the gameplay more satisfying. Master Chief getting the drop on unsuspecting Brutes-and even Hunters, yes I said that right-is so much fun. Try it in the House of Reckoning portion. It’s still difficult, but it’s easier to bait a Hunter into charging you, drop sliding with rockets or a Skewer, and popping them in the back. I did this in H5 a lot by thrust sliding to get behind a screaming Knight without its armor and assassinating it.
Having to play against dysnc in itself makes this game the most difficult. Melees don’t work, grenades are broken, and getting shot through walls is a norm. My favorite of them all is getting one punched on full shields and having a 50/50 chance to trade with an enemy who is one shot not even facing you
Einfach nur krank man. Das ist zu wild für mich. Ein paar slides kann ich auch aber wen man dich beobachtet beim zocken dann denk ich mir wie krank ist das bitte. 🖖🤯
hey Shyway! I've been watching your videos for a while, thanks so much for your tips! Just wondering how you got your voice to change? In your older videos, you sound way different, and now your voice pitch is lower, how did you do that?
I'll tell you bro, you have a Nak for making the driest vids ever made!!, but I love every second of them, I'm clearly a halo junkie... thanks for all your effort, love your content
@Shyway If u posted videos of your connected curb slide routes, like you did on streets, for every map.. would be amazing!! I still practice that same route on streets.. it way very helpful!!
I'd argue that Halo 5 was more technical, but infinite has some good tech too. I'm not sure if Halo Infinite can take "most technical fps game that is still supported" (eg not h5). Despite all the movement tech, the aiming skill gap isn't as wide as other competitive titles partly because of aim assist. The sheer percent of kills in infinite that are either trades or are subsequently traded makes it more like "make sure you're full shield, shoot first and don't whiff horribly simulator" mid-gunfight. compare that to a game like cs or valorant where winning a fight with less health, while it's still a disadvantage, is possible if you aim better whereas br fights in infinite are drawn out and fights are usually (not always) decided with the first bullet meaning that the longer ttk doesn't actually add that much skill when following up is way too easy for pros in most cases. that being from a top level pov of course.
@@jeroddunn that's true and playing as a team should improve your probability of winning but the long ttk combined with relatively easy aiming can make it feel a tad boring, especially from a spectating pov, because every time you see 2 players fighting you know who's going to win within the first 0.25s and then the next 1-2 seconds feel expositional
Halos up there, but its not quake. No movement comes close or gives you the same skill ceiling. Curb sliding is the best thing to ever happen to halo in a long time. Its mechanics like this where momentum is actually affected and can make a real difference.
@@JoshingTV It's uses the Source physics engine. That's all that needs to be said. Ok quake doesn't the source engine, but there's still b hopping and air strafing.
Very nice video although it is extremely hard to do with a normal layout controler that i am use to playing and it has the Sprint on Pushing down the thumb button .
I'm here 4 all of it... Loved your movement in H5 and loving it in Infinite... Keep it up brother... (Halo 5 is King 👑) and yes, I'm still 47 years old.. That picture is about 20 years ago... Pretty damn Grey now
I still wouldn’t say Halo Infinite is the most technical FPS but I love your passion for the game and it’s movement, which I think is lacking in a lot of FPS games nowadays. Games like Unreal Tournament 4 and Quake still hold the most technical and nuanced movement mechanics when it comes to quake but there’s a level right underneath it that a few games inhabit and I think Halo for the most part is one of them
if anyone struggling timing the sprint and crouch for the full slide please try these key kinds that LB is sprint, and your left stick click is crouch, it’s a lot easier to direct the movement by just touching one side of the controller I know it’s a common setup but some players play differently and honestly sometimes your own style of play can limit you if not exploring options:)
If we’re not specifically talking about arena shooters here, I’d say CS:GO is more technical than halo infinite. Good movement takes a lot of practice, the mechanics of shooting since you’re not accurate when moving and every weapon has a spray pattern. Understanding angles, when to peek and when not to peek. Learning strategies, utility lineups, all of this can take thousands of hours to master. It’s a lot more slow paced and methodical, but I think it trumps halo in raw technicality.
Do you have videos about positioning? Not interested in rankeds, but I’ve been playing since ce and it’s always been a problem for me, it looks interesting to try and fix it
R.I.P. to the curb-sliding (snap sliding) again. 343i is removing this technique from the game. I will miss it because i practiced much... You've silently changed this video's BOLD title "Proof that Halo is the most technical FPS" to "Shyway’s Curb Slide Masterclass". Yeah, I agree. XD
Personally don't think any game has yet to come close to Gears. It's not just the individual moves, but also the fact that you can do combinations and blend techniques together almost like doing fighting game combos. Ex, in Gears 5, it's possible to slide to cover, mantle cancel/fakie, roadie strafe into a reaction shot. That input combination is *crazy* and you simply can't do that in any other game aside from maybe an Armored Core. Your character is essentially changing directions *and* momentum at the snap of a finger to pull off a skill-shot technique. All of this happens within 2-3 seconds at most.
Your content is so incredibly insightful. Really hope S3 does enough to bring the community back and your videos get the views they deserve.
it wont and you know it wont. i don't get why anyone thinks a halo without collision is ever going to "bring the community back"
@@tintin6291 Lol you think the reason people aren't playing is because the game doesn't have player collision. What are you smoking bro?
The reason people aren't playing is plain and simple: 1. Desync and shot reg are horrible. 2. Game is still in early access. 3. There has been almost no content added since release.
@@tintin6291 most people don't gaf about collision why are you pretending like they do- i'd be curious to know why you even care about something as nuanced as that lo
@@supernice_auto your not a halo player then. All real halo players don't play halo infinite. They all left so of course nobody complains because it won't change
@@tintin6291 that might be one of the dumbest things i've ever read LMAO yeah bro i'm not a 'real' halo player because i play halo and you don't- that makes a lot of sense lmaooo all the halo pros are also fake halo players but you're a real halo player, got it.
this game is so underrated its crazy. Its better than any Halo since H3. Just needs some love and some netcode/desync work.
completely agree
I fully believe that you, Shyway, are responsible for the lion share of Infinite's movement meta evolution. 343 would do well to pay attention. Happy you're back!
yes because most competitive people don't like halo ifniite. they liked halo 5. only a few are willing to drag themselves thru the mud to create content for this game and those who do create content have partnerships with halo in some form. if the game was as technical as he claims then many of the best fps players would be making videos on it.
@@tintin6291 Not true. A game can be technical and more competitive but less successful - see 2007 Shadowrun the most skill based FPS to ever exist. Infinite has no casual fans or audience and therefore isnt worth playing for most pros unless you just love the game or a top 4 team.
Shyways putting in more work than 343 to promote how cool this game is
How cool it could BE.
@@tacticalbt1023 It already is technically, just needs more stuff in it.
Too bad none of it reaches to SEA
@@eliaxxz5360 it needs to fix netcode and servers first. The game is too buggy.
its not cool at all hes grasping at straws to make content. look at his halo 5 vids compared to this
Hell yes, literally half an hour ago I was looking at your page hoping for new content. Great to see you back at it brother!
Your videos are the only reason I still pray for the game's success.
Need a grenade breakdown shyway. All nades and the ways to use them best. also how broken they can be, are they tracking
Honestly bro, your analysis is so top notch as always , your an asset for the halo community hands down. Great video . Max skills also. Also totally agree halo has always been much more skillful and unforgiving than all other fps shooters .
Specifically halo 2 >all
I love this kind of videos, because it gives me a better understanding and insight of how these mechanics works so I can apply them into my Forge maps later this year, so thanks! 😄👍
It would be great if you could do a deep dive about all Equipments in the game, if there are more to them than expected 🤔
And perhaps how you/the player(s) could combine the Equipments together just like in Overwatch how you can combine the Ults together. If that's a thing in Halo with the Equipments that is, because I’ve never seen it🤔 Well kind of in Halo 3 though
I always wondered why I couldnt get some of these slides.. it is 100% that upward momentum for me, I don't think I would have noticed that on my own.. thanks Shyway!
I played many fps games but something about halo fps feels way better and i keep going back
Thank you for all you do for this game.
This channel inspired me to get more competitive. Already going from 3:4/1:1 to 3:2/2:1 consistently in social games. Thank you!!!! Excited to level up some more
This is the ultimate video for sliding, with the in depth explanation I’ve been looking for. Time to practice!
sometimes, lol, I'm a very tough kill, and your videos a a big part of that. But this week, I've been zipping around like my name is Druk
Good to see you back in action
So happy to have a new video! Great work bro!
The best content in the scene by far.
I never knew Halo was this technical with movement.
there is so much skill in doing this smoothly, shooting at the same time.
I really enjoy seeing you make this content. Please don't ever stop. Even if I never nail these mechanics, I'm closer to doing it with this information than I would ever be without it
Yeah snap slide master class sounds dope
At work now. But def watching tonight when I get home! Glad to see you back!!
I hope you're doing well man and sorry that you had to deal with all the drama recently.
I'm still playing Halo like its 2008, I really need to work on my movement. 😅
Super content, great tutorial, and yet I still find it hard. I guess it's all about really grinding in custom games to eventually get it right...
This is my favorite thing about Infinite.. compared to other halo games.. and I've been playing since CE all nighters on Lan with my big brother and his friends when I was 7
I can't believe I saw multiple people at the beginning of the video that I've played against.
Thank for explaining how the tech works. I love how deep it does if you spend some time.
Proof that Shyway is 100% amazing 👏. Great video and well done Teacher 👏✔️👍 , very appreciated!
Yeah man I'd watch a snap slide tutorial. Great vid here, thank you
This was exactly what I needed .___. You're actually a god thank you so much
I love hitting the super slide off the cafe spawn next to the AR on streets (usually towards PD). You fly back to your team half the time and saves valuable seconds and lives.
Nice video man! 😀
Controller does have access to some beautiful movement not presently possible on keyboard widening the skill crevasse that is the input gap.
Keyboards only have access to 8 way digital input, so you're going full speed in whichever direction you're inputting, which is why keyboard movement can be kinda speedy, but lacks the ability to manipulate directional velocity to do precise ledge line ups
However this is only because the way the game currently registers game inputs, it does not allow for analog keyboards or mixed input peripherals.
If the game allowed for analog key input, or like a keypad with a joystick on it, you could unlock some pretty insane movement technical skill ceiling.
great stuff as always, this tech is the only thing holding me to this game. please do a snap slide video!
Great to see a new video man. Been a minute. Great stuff! Well thought out and presented. Per usual!
Typical excellent and informative shyway video!
I played over 1000 matches in Infinite and never tried this. sounds awesome!
I still fully believe that Halo 5 had the highest FPS skillgap of all time
Quake CPMA crushes it.
Noooooo way Halo 2 and H3. H5 was nice and all but wasn’t that hard to dominate
Thruster peeking on top lift on fissure. (Insane gameplay)
You can do this with the grapple as well when you grapple on the floor.
Dude, you are the best! Cannot WAIT for this snapslide Masterclass!
Super stoked to see a shy vid!
Trying these movement techniques in campaign makes the gameplay more satisfying. Master Chief getting the drop on unsuspecting Brutes-and even Hunters, yes I said that right-is so much fun. Try it in the House of Reckoning portion. It’s still difficult, but it’s easier to bait a Hunter into charging you, drop sliding with rockets or a Skewer, and popping them in the back.
I did this in H5 a lot by thrust sliding to get behind a screaming Knight without its armor and assassinating it.
Having to play against dysnc in itself makes this game the most difficult. Melees don’t work, grenades are broken, and getting shot through walls is a norm. My favorite of them all is getting one punched on full shields and having a 50/50 chance to trade with an enemy who is one shot not even facing you
Glad to know it's not just me. I swear grenades are either nuclear bombs or confetti poppers depending on the game's whim.
@@exparrow777 have we became new best friends on halo? Let’s play and a enjoy this awesome ride together 🤣
Thanks Master Sensei Shyway for the tips
Would you be willing to do a full callouts breakdown? Would be super useful.
You make this so easy to learn. Props and thanks!
Thanks for putting out such great content! Always fun to watch and easy to understand the concepts. Really good stuff.
@Shyway.. This real? Or a scam?
Goddamn. I was wondering why my consistency wasn't working at every ledge. Thank you.
Mastercheeks on a stick of butter lol
Einfach nur krank man. Das ist zu wild für mich. Ein paar slides kann ich auch aber wen man dich beobachtet beim zocken dann denk ich mir wie krank ist das bitte. 🖖🤯
hey Shyway! I've been watching your videos for a while, thanks so much for your tips! Just wondering how you got your voice to change? In your older videos, you sound way different, and now your voice pitch is lower, how did you do that?
Thank you for all the content man!
Love the video's Thank you for the indepth info
studying this for Sunday(aka tmrw), thank you king
Np! Good luck 🫡
I'll tell you bro, you have a Nak for making the driest vids ever made!!, but I love every second of them, I'm clearly a halo junkie... thanks for all your effort, love your content
@Shyway If u posted videos of your connected curb slide routes, like you did on streets, for every map.. would be amazing!! I still practice that same route on streets.. it way very helpful!!
Love your videos, keep them coming!
I'd argue that Halo 5 was more technical, but infinite has some good tech too. I'm not sure if Halo Infinite can take "most technical fps game that is still supported" (eg not h5). Despite all the movement tech, the aiming skill gap isn't as wide as other competitive titles partly because of aim assist. The sheer percent of kills in infinite that are either trades or are subsequently traded makes it more like "make sure you're full shield, shoot first and don't whiff horribly simulator" mid-gunfight. compare that to a game like cs or valorant where winning a fight with less health, while it's still a disadvantage, is possible if you aim better whereas br fights in infinite are drawn out and fights are usually (not always) decided with the first bullet meaning that the longer ttk doesn't actually add that much skill when following up is way too easy for pros in most cases. that being from a top level pov of course.
That’s the team aspect. If you’re not playing as a team you’re toast.
@@jeroddunn that's true and playing as a team should improve your probability of winning but the long ttk combined with relatively easy aiming can make it feel a tad boring, especially from a spectating pov, because every time you see 2 players fighting you know who's going to win within the first 0.25s and then the next 1-2 seconds feel expositional
The best 🎉
Halos up there, but its not quake. No movement comes close or gives you the same skill ceiling. Curb sliding is the best thing to ever happen to halo in a long time. Its mechanics like this where momentum is actually affected and can make a real difference.
Ive never played Quake before. What is it about Quake's movement that gives the high ceiling?
@@JoshingTV
It's uses the Source physics engine. That's all that needs to be said.
Ok quake doesn't the source engine, but there's still b hopping and air strafing.
@@jackcolson4745 😂 the backwards crouch bounce glitch
@@jackcolson4745 what? source is like 3 engines removed from quake
@@hydb801
Oh I'm thinking of a different game.
If you’re trying to convince me to play this dumpster fire again… I’m intrigued
halo movement meta papa strikes again!
Very nice video although it is extremely hard to do with a normal layout controler that i am use to playing and it has the Sprint on Pushing down the thumb button .
I'm here 4 all of it... Loved your movement in H5 and loving it in Infinite... Keep it up brother... (Halo 5 is King 👑) and yes, I'm still 47 years old.. That picture is about 20 years ago... Pretty damn Grey now
sheesh
disappointed you cant cast hcs anymore, love your stuff
I still wouldn’t say Halo Infinite is the most technical FPS but I love your passion for the game and it’s movement, which I think is lacking in a lot of FPS games nowadays. Games like Unreal Tournament 4 and Quake still hold the most technical and nuanced movement mechanics when it comes to quake but there’s a level right underneath it that a few games inhabit and I think Halo for the most part is one of them
Dude shyway thank you for sharing this. I watched your other vids on curb sliding but wasn’t understanding the nuances of sliding off bigger objects
You just on some other level with this sh*t. 😦
But thanks for sharing. 👍
Awww yeah! Shyway is back in the house!
After rewatching this I have a question: any specific tips for MnK players? I’ve been hitting slides more consistently but I’m still not at pro level.
Thank you 🐐
I’m gonna stick to playing H3 and Reach 🤷🏽♀️
I’m a scooter. I love to scoot. I’m Scooty puff jr
Sick! Time to practice. Thanks for the content gold. Subscribed.
For some reason no matter how much i try it, on mkb, u just crouch after falling. No sliding
Love the knowledge some good stuff here keep up the good work dude!
if anyone struggling timing the sprint and crouch for the full slide please try these key kinds that LB is sprint, and your left stick click is crouch, it’s a lot easier to direct the movement by just touching one side of the controller I know it’s a common setup but some players play differently and honestly sometimes your own style of play can limit you if not exploring options:)
Goat !
How do you get the locked on 40’ melee lunge
please put a video on snap sliding too im getting used to it but I wanna know just how good certain players can get with it
Goat video 👏
Dat Beard is perfect bruh
Thank you 😊
0:55 master cheeks 😂
I think this is true for console FPS but some PC FPS like quake probably have much more technical movement than halo
The PC release is still so scuffed. It's a joke
If we’re not specifically talking about arena shooters here, I’d say CS:GO is more technical than halo infinite. Good movement takes a lot of practice, the mechanics of shooting since you’re not accurate when moving and every weapon has a spray pattern. Understanding angles, when to peek and when not to peek. Learning strategies, utility lineups, all of this can take thousands of hours to master.
It’s a lot more slow paced and methodical, but I think it trumps halo in raw technicality.
told you i'd be here.
Respect
Need to practice this
Welcome back king. We learn from our mistakes and get better. I know you'll do big things!
This video has helped me a lot. Please do one like it for snap sliding!
You should put 'tutorial/class' somewhere in the title.. I am going to try this out soon, thanks for the awesome tips!
Do you have videos about positioning? Not interested in rankeds, but I’ve been playing since ce and it’s always been a problem for me, it looks interesting to try and fix it
R.I.P. to the curb-sliding (snap sliding) again. 343i is removing this technique from the game. I will miss it because i practiced much...
You've silently changed this video's BOLD title "Proof that Halo is the most technical FPS" to "Shyway’s Curb Slide Masterclass". Yeah, I agree. XD
You can also sprint, slide, then thruster... oh wait.
Personally don't think any game has yet to come close to Gears. It's not just the individual moves, but also the fact that you can do combinations and blend techniques together almost like doing fighting game combos.
Ex, in Gears 5, it's possible to slide to cover, mantle cancel/fakie, roadie strafe into a reaction shot. That input combination is *crazy* and you simply can't do that in any other game aside from maybe an Armored Core. Your character is essentially changing directions *and* momentum at the snap of a finger to pull off a skill-shot technique. All of this happens within 2-3 seconds at most.
Very useful, thank you!
I feel like there's too much to talk a single video about why Halo is the most deep and complex FPS
It ain't though. Its still bested by Quake
OMG! Missed you man!!!!!!