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Turbo Diesel Crate Engine for your Overland Rig - Cummins R2.8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2017
- At Expo West we had a chance to talk to Steve with Cummins Diesel Repower about the long awaited R2.8 Crate engine. Around the world overlanders rely on the low and torque, efficiency, and mileage of these durable engines, now available in North America!
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I have a winter home in the Philippines.
I just bought a Chinese-made pickup truck there called a Foton thunder (4-door 4x4) brand new, 2019, for USD $20,000......It has - from the factory - a Cummins 2.8 turbo-diesel, Gertrag 5-speed manual transmission, a Borg-Warner transfer case, and Dana axles.
It is Great !!
Used to own some semi's, always loved Cummins....
Brat Cafe i bought a honda pioneeer with a plow for 18k i got a better deal and u cant even take that 4x4 in the sand without sinking and getting stuck
Brat Cafe
Post a video of your truck.
The Diesel Revolution is here
The federal gov't is here.... to screw the diesel world by having raised the prices of diesel fuel years ago and by screwing it with DEF system that make the MPG go to shit along with the hp numbers and reliability.
Proven Overland Magazine in the United States of America! It’s been everywhere else in the world because because who knows why.... but it wants to play here now.
This crate engine is a big deal. It will spawn aftermarket to the likes we have not seen since the fox body mustang. Just my opinion
Love it when a ford power stroke ad plays before a cummins video
Right on Cummins! About time! This product line is going to change the world of motorsports!!!
I have a 05 liberty crd with a 2.8, and i am sure the numbers are comparable to the cummins in this video. This would be a great conversion, we just got back from a trip from VA to Alabama and we passed all the gassers on the uphill grades without even falling out of overdrive, no drop in speed no freewheeling down the grades, 30mpg loaded with luggage and equipment. I would say this is worth the money if you travel.
My 5.7 Oldsmobile diesel gets 35 mpg.
I LOVE diesel! I got a 2012 Mercedes, V6 Turbodiesel but the emission controls are killing me and the engine. The EGR and the PCV are clogging up the intake and the adblue system is constantly needing repair. I do hope that Cummins can stay within the EPA rules without compromising longevity of the engine. Great to see more diesel options in the USA! :-)
Really cool idea and our hats off to the guys at Cummins for the attempt. These will make many TJ owners happy. The issue with putting these into anything remotely modern (anything newer than 2000 Jeeps etc) is integrating these custom powertrains into vehicles that are almost entirely computer controlled. Transmission controls, onboard instrumentation, cruise control and safety systems, etc. will all need to talk to each other and be custom-programmed. This amounts to a ton of electrical wiring and programming. As such, this will be costly to implement on many levels. Guys hoping for a sub $10k diesel swap will be sorely disappointed. Secondly, emissions compliance. For those hoping to install one of these into a 2005+ Tacoma etc. I'm afraid you wont have a Cummins certificate of compliance anytime soon. In order to be compliant, these engines will need to have treatment systems and Cummins would need to certify the installation for each vehicle. This is both ridiculously expensive and complicated. Cummins can sell these for TJ Jeeps and older Landcruisers because these vehicles are grandfathered in due to age. We actually prototyped these engines a few years ago in a 2008 Tacoma and they performed really well.
Jeeps are junk anyways
These should be made available for smaller SUVs and trucks. Not everyone needs a big badass Ford F350 with a 6.7 Powerstroke, or a Chevy/GMC truck with a 6.6 Duramax Diesel. Most of us simply need smaller truck to haul things to a job we have, or to tow a small trailer, a travel trailer or a utility trailer.
This one will fit smaller rigs
I agree. If your Jeep XJ Cherokee originally had a 4.0 litre gasoline six engine, this could fit comfortably under the hood.
I would love this in my Tacoma!
This motor needs to be an option for wranglers. They are putting the ecodiesel in the wrangler eventually but only in the 4 door because of its size of transmission and def tank. It would be nice to have a diesel like this in the 2 door.
Nissan xd
"Shut up and take my money!"
Will def be looking into one of these for my next swap!
Looks like an excellent package.. well done.
now I just need some money
and trans adapters
And lots of time
A lot of money
How much
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 $9,000 just for the crate motor
Things are getting better. More options to choose from when comes time for my WK2s swap
Here in Australia, I have a Nissan 4x4 ute (pick up) with a 2.3 litre common rail, 4 cylinder, twin turbo. Puts out 188hp/450nm.
Popular motors here.
Can tow up to 3.5 tonnes and I can get 6.4 litres per 100km on the freeway. Pretty remarkable engines.
One year later..... how's the Navara going ?
Yes but we can't get those in the us
That is one badass ambulance in the background!
1951 Dodge M37... would love that engine
I have a list of about 15 cars and trucks this would be a godsend for. holy crap, I have a great need...
Finally a bolt in option, I have been looking at diesel engine swaps for my XJ for sometime. Now I have a new option that looks very promising.
I love my 4.0 in my XJ but it's lacking power and gets such shitty mileage. And I want to keep everything mopar but Hemi's are huge and expensive. I think I'll have to start saving for this cummins
Nomad-76 Yup but it won't be a budget option at all, you'll have to shell out the bucks.
I have contacted Cummins for a price but haven't heard back yet. I expecting some major sticker shock however, I prefer to keep older rigs. Furthermore, if you compare it to buying a new diesel vehicle it's probably a more sensible option for those that enjoy maintaining their older vehicles.
Agreed, I have look at some of the V8 option as well and not only are they costly, they also require a lot custom work to install.
Someone on Pirate 4x4 was saying $8500, who knows if that's correct though..
I like this. Crate engines have been popular in the hot rodding world bringing new life to old rides and to see Cummins enter the off road world with a diesel may only be just the beginning. Should this thing fly, just as in the hot rodding world with diverse options to choose from, so too could the future be for the diesel and off roading. For those wanting more power options, it may just come about.
Good video Overland Bound.
This would be really awesome in my JKU.
I have seen some do an ISF3.8 swap on their jeep. It's more efficient, powerful, and torquey than it's older cousin which is the 4bt. There should be a 3 engine line of Repower engines in addition to the 2.8l I4 diesel, a 215 hp 3.8L I4 based of the ISF3.8L, and a 5.0L V8 based off the ISV5.0. A Repower for everyone.
Making this 4 cylinder into a inline 6 cylinder would be 4.2 liter .
Great video, I think I'm going to get my hands on one of these :-)
Nice.... Welcome to rest of the overlanding world
I have one of these in my Foton Van and its okay, lacks power but does the job
Nice motor! btw; love the lil kids in the back ground!
Congratulations y’all successfully created a UNREALIABLE 4Bt
Man this is going to change the overland hobby. I was lucky enough to get engine #25 and had planned on using it on a personal fj55 project but a old hot rod customer wanted it worst so a cj8 scrambler it will go all with the jku Rubicon chassis it was to be installed in. my stipulation was if the next one isn't here by november I get to overland up on hull mtn/mendo pass a week before christmas to find that perfect tree in his jeep. can't wait for the 5.0 rollout as its destined for dad's 78 e-van that we rolled in as a kid, who knew 4wd was better when the van could bounce and be come alonged every 6ft.
P.S. Engine cost $8000.00- 80 nickels and a penny
Such a sweet engine. i want one!
I could finally have a diesel Land Rover in the US.
Aaron Maughan, yes! Too bad we can’t get that wonderful 5 cylinder.
nsatoday it is probably the best small displacement diesel ever. I daily one over here in the uk! 😁
Aaron Maughan man o man whata dream disco 2 needs a new heart
Way cheaper to re-engine than buy a new rig. I re-engined my 2000 GMC Sierra 1500 for 10% of what a new one costs. This will be my LR4's next motor.
Need one of these in my 98 Tacoma 4x4 sr5 😍😍 along with a 115L diesel tank which is about 30 gallons. Twice as much as the stock 15 gallon tank in my Tacoma. 25mpg multiplied by 30 gallons = 750 miles before I have to fuel up again 💆🏻♂️ it would cost me about 20k for all that though! One can dream. One can dream
I'm glad cummins is doing this and I'm glad it's causing excitement.
The Rep is right the numbers don't tell the full story, but I feel as if this is more of a niche product than most commentators are making this out to be.
It makes 160hp, and 250 ftlbs
I'm sure it gets good fuel mileage and a flat diesel power curve is great.
but still...I won't be rushing out buying one of these.
ok now its time to fit this in my jetta!
I’m so excited about this! I thought I’d have to move back to England to off-road in a TD engine smaller than 3L giving me plenty of power to do what I want, and provide a decent fuel economy simultaneously. Thank you Cummins!
The D4D Toyota is a pretty sick little modern diesel engine. I got to ride in a few Toyota Fortuners in Asia with them and they pull hard. Recently I got a std dodge with the 24v diesel and that low end tq and mileage increase is crazy coming from a gas truck similar. But with diesel the parts are allot of money and servicing costs more.
Damn I want one for my XJ!
Holy crap the best engine for land cruiser 80 series!
A 3.0 v6 turbo diesel with 240 hp and 420 lbs ft of torque similar in output to the jeep and ram offerings would be acceptable
Sticking one in my 99 dodge dakota. Baby Ram
Just watched the video of the bronco with the #1 beta engine over at TFLC on youtube, unreal! these engines will change 4wd market in the U.S. The same Cummings rep was interviewed and said to expect it to be in the LS3 price range once it is on the open market.
this would be sweet in my '81 CJ7
Exelente videos de informacion quisiera como sicronizar el motor ajuste de bancada biela y culata
I'd love to put one these in a 2000 or so Dodge Dakota pickup!!!
I cannot WAIT to get one if these into my 3rd Gen 4Runner!
Larry Queen some companies import them diesel 6 speed
Larry Queen why not just but the 3.0 turbo diesel that comes in them?
Kevin Smith the JDM engine? It never came to America, and this will be 50 State emissions legal. Plus, this one will be brand new.
Its not a jdm engine. They sell them in hiluxs here in Australia. There not as good as the 4.2 straight 6 turbo diesel we get in the 70 series landcruisers. Those engine would pull this cummins in half 😂 last longer to haha
Kevin Smith yeah! They're illegal here. This will not be though
I worked around that engine in early durability testing. Pretty cool... would love to know what the cost will be.
That'd be DOPE in my Land Cruiser!
YES!!! I've been wanting to find a 4bt to put in my jeep grand! this is even lighter than the 4.0!! awesome
Would i be able to put this 2.8 Cummins in a 2018 Chevy 1500 Silverado
Everyone is so worried about out put numbers. It's known that it isn't hard to 'wake' up a diesel and get more power out of them. I'm sure the low starting numbers are a result of this being emission compliment with a broad number of vehicles. It will be interesting when companies like efi live release tuning options for this and people start deleting and tuning them. Then I'm sure compound will surely follow quickly afterwards.
So don't worry about spending alot of money for no power cause you can always spend more! and um, they were talking about fuel costs like this would save money lol.
Matt Lane tuning and deleting is fairly basic practice with diesels now a days. And as much as it would cost to swap it would not out way the fuel savings, but going on a trip or off road trip the amount of miles you get on a trip can be a big space saver and very convenient when going for longer trips. Along with the power to turn the larger tires when highway driving is a benefit as well. Also, this program is targeting a very wide market, but the immediate people they are after are the ones who are doing build and are yet to have a power plant. This Cummins directly competes with the ls crate options on the market.
Matt Lane if you're only getting 10 mpg and struggle to go 70 down the highway, this is a good option.
I'm planning on buying an XJ with a better body next year and really thinking about doing this swap
They have an article about how they put this motor in a half ton truck and it was making over 200 hp and almost 400 ft lbs of torque but they stopped pursuing that for some reason
that would be PERFECT in my 1991 MJ!!!!
Now I want to put one in a Tacoma!
I agree with you. Chevy is using a 2.8 Duramax in their Colorado ZR2. This would level the playing field immensely.
Claus Vlogs
partially its our falut( the consumer) that toyota hasnt entered the diesel scene because we still buy millions of tacos instead of the diesel twins. but once yota realizes demand for small diesels theyll have either enter for a slice of the pie or be willing to miss sales
Dude, that is my dream engine swap. One of my goals in life is to put a cummins in a 1st gen Tacoma, maybe an '04, with a manual drive train... oh my gosh I would fall in love
Diesel Tacoma coming out in 2018
SnorryHobo looking forward to it.
You think you could shove one of these in a suzuki samurai?
Never worked with diesels. This vid makes me want to get one. And I don't even own a car at the moment.
This is just the engine for those with something like a Ford Expedition--like me--who want better mileage and a more reliable engine than the Triton 5.4L.
pancudowny I have an 08 XLT and couldn't agree more.
pancudowny i think it’s like 10 grand without being adapted to your transmission or with the engine mounts or anything. Better to just save yourself the pain, sell the expedition, and buy a ford wit a 7.3 or an older suv and swap in an older 4bt to pass emissions for way cheaper
I don't think the 2.8 would work very well for a vehicle of the weight of your Expedition however all is not lost shop.bankspower.com/i-2556-13110-engine-gale-banks-630t-v6-3-0l-diesel.html
pancudowny I have a 2006 f350 with the 5.4 and it is the worst motor I have ever dealt with. I don’t know why every car and truck in North America does not come with diesel.
This is a strong option for my 2000 ranger
Wow...A 2,8 Liter turbo diesel in an equivalent Ford 350 [Brazilian] pick up truck? You are right? That bogles the mind. LOL.
Great video.
Now I want one in my Ford Ranger!
That is so getting in my ranger.
Thank you Cummins!!
I’ll put one of these into my focus st when the motor blows
Great idea, can we used it in new it vehicles or is a limited on the age of the vehicle also can be install in any kind of vehicle not only off road.
At nearly $10k, I think most will stick to 4bt/6bt's.
hell even a mercedes 3.0 5cyl is a better choice
That’s including all of the auxiliaries pedal and ECM/wiring. Not a crazy price for a brand new product.
Actually a pretty solid price, considering everything is new and it’s a complete package. If you’re keeping something for the long term, this would be a great option.
Ryan Jenkins restored 4bts go for near enough 10k and they are a worse motor in every singe way, and they don’t come with a wiring harness.
@@Aron-ru5zk If you buy a restored 4bt rather than a used one and going thru it yourself, you deserve to be paying 10k lol
I want one so bad in my 97’ XJ, probably going to use a Mercedes om617 or TDI
Cummins should consider adding another repowwr engine to the lineup in the 3.8L to 3.9L range with 300hp and 500 foot pounds of torque would be a nice place to start.
Low end torque is the most important feature. Added benefit: effective exhaust brake for vehicles in this weight range.
Kevin Hornbuckle unless it was a Cummins day one designed Jake brake I wouldn't use it. the new Colorado diesel has a engine brake but it uses the variable vanes in the turbo to do so. I've seen many failures in the dealer due to it.
Cat fan but now I want one for my 1999 jeep cant wait
Great job Cummins!!
Any idea which vehicles this would fit in? You would need to make sure it matches up with the x-mission and ensure the rest of the drive train will be able to handle te extra torque.
Great engine.
That engine is great for a 1995 Chevy Caprice as long it needs an automatic diesel transmission as an option.
I think this would be perfect in my bronco 2
Never thought of that combination, that sounds awesome.
I want to put one in my 79 f150. What are the trans. options to keep np205 transfer case?
Cummins has a survey on the interest in offering the straight 6 and the V-8 on their site.. that’s the offerings I’d like...
damn that's awesome I wanna swap my tj now.
would really like this in my 2000 4runner
Well this is interesting.....but how will it bolt up on different auto transmissions or a stick shift box (bell housing)....??
I would love this for my '94 4x4 Toyota truck, but I just put a new v6 in it because the other crapped out and now I'm out of money aside from the fact that I just moved. In a couple years, in a couple years...
That is sweet!
it has the same torque numbers as my v6. I would hope going to diesel to pull more
what would be the max size truck or suv for this engine swap if u just want to be able to get that higher mpg.
Putting one of these in my 240
Really sweet. Check out Diesel Toys out of San Antonio, Texas.
Can't wait to see this in the Land Cruiser in the future!
the f engine is still solid
ClassicRocker 81 just buy 4.5 turbo diesel v8 that comes in them 😂
Kevin Smith I wish lol. I'd import the whole truck from Japan just for the powertrain
These where made in Rocky Mount, NC!!!! RMEP!!!!!
would i need to change my transmission? does that motor work with any gear ratios
I have a 1984 Ranger diesel 2.2 Perkins and its really low power but gets me really good mileage but if that engine dies this is the engine that I'm putting it in
Would it fit in a 96 Jeep with a stock axles
Hi, i would like to put the 2.8 turbo in my 2005 TJ Rubicon with and automatic trans. but i also want my A/C and Cruise control.. is that an option??
You should put one in my 98 Jeep tj and we can see how it holds up to New England weather lol
How is the Toyota 4.5L V8 turbo diesel used all 2007 and newer Australian market 70 series Land Cruisers small displacement compared to this?
price and was it completely rweady to run once adapted to the vehicle? I know it has a loom and a ecm but does it come with its own fuel pump ect ect. Also did they do away with the plastic oil pan? Instant failure with that pan.
If your Jeep has Air Conditioner, is there a place on the Cummins for the compressor
feel sorry for you in the States not drove a petrol 4x4 in ten years would have to learn how to drive one again
You put gasoline in it instead of diesel, duh....
Noob question. I have a 3rd gen 4Runner with the 3.4 would you be able to use the original transmission and swap this motor in? Does it just adapt to whatever trans your vehicle has?
Super cool program. I'll have to check if they offer a 6 cylinder or plan to. For me I couldn't spend motor swap money for the same stock power my 80 came with even with the awesome mpg
Alex Stern If you want a larger diesel then go take a 6bt or 4bt out of a junkyard, id bet you will have to give a left nut to get one of these.
Truth be told I would rather LS swap my 80
This is awesome
Need to take it on the trail and sand to see how it performs
So can we only use these in 99 or older your vehicles? Note on newer?
I want one in my Crown Vic.
Me too.
Me too
So would I be able to put it into a Jeep Wrangler LJ
I wonder, does it use mechanical or electronic fuel injection? Got to worry about EMP and getting the thing up and running if we are hit by one. Is it capable of being converted to biodiesel?
How do these motors hook up to our existing transmissions? I have the R150 transmission hooked up to a 1994 4Runner 3VZE. I would love to get one of these guys one day but how will the tranny motor work out?
Hmmm - Would this be good for a 69 GMC ( the one pictured) I think it would! My rational is the 286 this truck had an option for was rated right around 120 with much less tourqe, this would be perfect I think!