You can set the car to remember E-Pedal status ;) Concerning fuel consumption - we are currently on a road trip of well over 1500km. The majority of it is in the alps, with climbs from 900m to 1500m above sea level and more on a daily basis. My 4x4 X-Trail Diesel was averaging ca. 10L/100km in the same scenario. The X-Trail e-4orce does it in under 8 liters per 100km, while having (subjectively) twice the power and souverinity and half the noise. In the lowlands on rural roads, we were averaging around 6 liters. So day to day fuel consumption actually is pretty awesome for a for a car that feels like it has a 3.5L V6 under the hood. Plus the exhaust gases are about as clean as it gets with an ICE car. All in all, its an awesome ride! 👍 [It was at 7.6 in the end. During the 850Km Autobahn ride back it only took 6.6 Liters]
@@bustertruman8444 In the menu within the instrument cluster display (controlled from the steering wheel), under EV settings I think it was...it is possible 100%!
I drive this car mostly to school about 1 hour mostly highway im often on 7.1 to 7.5. for off road its certainly capable but the car comes as standard with economy tires they dont really work but moment keeps everything rolling easily you slide a bit here and there when its wet off road but not anything dangerous or concerning. Overal its very easy to drive only downside i can think of is the size it is and feels like an enormous vehicle so keep that in mind
I don’t really understand where the consumption rates are coming from. I have a 2WD, 5 seater e-power in top spec version. Driving 90km to work on the highway (100km/h) every day gives me number of 5.7l/100km and got even 5.3l/100km. This is NH summer so I expect to be around 6l/100km in winter. So pretty close to a RaV4 😊. Drive in B-mode and in economy setting, combined with the e-pedal function you will get very acceptable consumption rates
Truly enjoyed driving the X Trail which kept me safe in Kyushu island over a week with torrential rains, poor visibility of 50m for mountainous roads with mist and also country roads that were muddy and narrow. Would recommend this car anytime!
Thanks for the review Marek. I've seen a lot of other car reviewers struggle with the fuel consumption on the Nissan hybrid system as well, but the results you got in cold weather are crazy! I was really hoping for better economy from this drivetrain as it seems like an interesting concept. The interior looks like a big step forward though, good to see that Nissan is making improvements.
Wow, that's dam good going. I've had mine since July 2023 (Ireland) and would get at average 6.8 - 7.0 - best I've gotten over a weekend was 5.4. I drove a front wheel drive 2018 xtrail diesel for 5 years and would get around 6.7l per 100km and from 940km to 1100km on a tank. What version of xtrail epower are you driving.?
This last fall I took an evening trip around Bucharest, Romania, and for that trip I got an average fuel consumption of just 4 l/100km (5 seat 2023 Tekna e-4orce). My previous best was 4.9 l/100km. On both occasions I used the normal mode (not the eco), with B (regenerative braking), but without the e-pedal. All in all, it has average fuel consumption rates, but I'll trade that every day for it's dynamics in the city and on the highway, on and off roads.
I have just received my X-Trail E-power e4orce. 525 Nm of torque, 7.0 s to 100 kmh, really joful to drive and only 6.5l (Eco mode 4.8l) in city with dynamic driving ... Steers well, nothing rattles like in VAG cars (VW, Audi, even Bentley and Porsche), suspension handles well. Very dynamic car and economical at the same time! I love B mode (braking while generating func-tion, but I don’t use e-pedal, which brakes for me in addition to B mode). It is also very quiet. Love at first sight (and my job gives me opportunity to drive almost everything).
I've found the Eco mode really poor on my Xtrail (e4orce SVE) and the fuel consumption no better than standard mode or B mode? I do a lot of short 5k school runs twice a day and at least 2 80-100km trips a week, weekends can be anything from 40/50km to 200km. Best range I've gotten is 700km on a tank with an estimate range of 40km left. I was getting 1000km + on my diesel xtrail.
I am with you, an intelligent product, clever, well packaged and also adding a bit of fun to a fulfilled remit. Consumption with petrol engine and that front section are just reasonable. Well done as usual Marek and Ana.
Nice review. I got mine a couple of months ago and I've already taken it on a 3 country family camping trip through the Alps as well as german autobahn. Could not be more happy with it. Rest of the family love it too :)
It's interesting seeing in the comments that all this car's owners are happy with it but for all the others the car sucks because of this or because of that (they never being in the proximity, not saying driving it).
Fuel consumption is disappointing. A 2013 Honda CR-V with a 2 litre non-turbo engine gets the same figures. So what use is a Hybrid if it does not excel in fuel economy??
previous generation x-trail with 1.6 diesel actually has better fuel economy, especially on highway where it can go as low as official 4.6l per kilometer or 50 MPG. and it's much cheaper, and has range about 1000km
Great video. I'm considering both the X-Trail and the Sorento - I like the look of the X-Trail but compared to the Sorento it's rather thirsty. A long lead-time on the Sorento, is making me think more seriously about the X-Trail, despite the relatively poor economy.
I'd have to test them side by side in the same weather conditions, but I get the impression X-Trail could be better in the city, while the Sorento would do better on the motorway (at moderate speeds of course). And the X-Trail is surprisingly capable off road. I'd never take the Sorento up there. Meanwhile Nissan insisted I try it off road, and it performed brilliantly.
I drove the 4wd e Force in tekna us 7 seater today…regarding consumption, I drove gently rolling country roads, highway and city, used the epedal function a bit and got an average 6.5l/100km so not too bad I think for that size car. Lovely very comfortable car and excellent proPilot function. Downside…it seems to have service intervals every 15000km, that is a lot more than the 30k in my Bmw. It was a test drive but considering one to buy
Regarding service intervals, 30k for BMW or VAG is the absolute maximum, and is reserved mainly for cars with mostly highway miles. Driving the car in regular traffic the computer will tell you to do a service in no more than 2 years, and probably much less miles. I had my first Countryman service after about 15k km, and that was 2 years, and the next one will be 12 months after the first one, with probably about 26-27k km on the clock. So 15k (or 1 year I assume) is prudent, especially if you're planning to keep the car for longer.
Hi Mark, one of the most genuine car review i have ever seen so far! Congrats. I Have a question, which of course is really personal and will appreciate your feedback: As far as off-road capacity and dynamic of drive which would you prefer nissan xtrail 4-eforce or Subaru Forester 2.0l boxer 4adventure? thanks for your comment. Kindest regards
I'm not familiar with the 4Adventure trim, but assuming you're not looking for a 7-seater I'd pick the Subaru. Why not the Outback? It's more of the X-Trail competitor than the Forester.
@@MarekDrivesENG Hi Marek, and thanks for your insight i'll look at your review of the Outback and will think about it. Thanks a lot, have a nice day.Tommaso
How do I like it? I like it! It is an interesting alternative to Volvo XC60 in my opinion. X trail was always an understated option, especially the one from 2010s that had beautiful leather beige interior, cup holders directly in front of front vents and huge lights in roof rails. Good car this!
Has Anna ever considered entering the Paris Dakar? LOL. Good job in that sand!! You go girl!! Nissan... I just never liked most of the Nissans I've driven except the first one when I was 17. That was a Datsun 280z. Having said this, maybe I'll go check out the Ariya since I haven't been at a Nissan dealership in 2 decades. Thanks Marek !
Oddly Nissan does not offer this drivetrain in the North American Rogue, but Mitsubishi (niche brand, here) sells the same car (rebadged) with the PHEV drivetrain. A missed opportunity.
@@MarekDrivesENG Haha. Yes. Somehow Mitsubishi is still alive here. Apparently Nissan holds a minority stake and so for this model they share a platform. Only minor styling differences between the two… and the unique-to-Mitsubishi PHEV.
@@MarekDrivesENG Mitsubishi also said they'd leave the European market, then they said they'd only sell the Renault based models, now they're bringing the Outlander (X-Trail PHEV restyles) back here after all. They're not very consistent with their word.
Hi Marek. Nice test, thanks! Tough question: Does X-Trail have any advantages over CX-60 Diesel? I'm trying to balance it over the fuel consumption loss.
What about a 1.5 motor problems? "The federal entity is opening an investigation involving over 450,000 Nissan Rogue, Nissan Altima, and Infiniti QX50 models, which use those two engines. According to the NHTSA, owners are reporting knocking sounds, loss of power, metal bits in their oil pans, and even total failures. Nissan has made changes to the engines' main bearings and L-links since they've been on sale to address potential engine damage; however, a recall hasn't been issued yet."
@@gatisdzervens3618 I always thought it was mainly to save fuel compared to the much cheaper regular engine. In that aspect, Nissan failed. I am not saying it doesn't drive well.
I've owned a few Nissans, first the Nissan Cherry all those years ago. Finished off with the 2.2D Turbo range topper X-Trail. Good amount of torque but couldn't get good miles/gallon. Cannot go back after owning a Mazda.
@Marek Drives in English ...I started with the MX-5, which I had 3, Mazda 3, Mazda 6 GT 2.5, CX-5 2.2D. Wife drives the CX-5 petrol. I'm now driving the CX-60. Even though the CX-60 has some quirks, its my favourite.
@@AHarker100 I had MPS3 last gen, now I have Mazda 6 Wagon 2.5i Rev-Top.. I switch to Nissan, I do not want Mazda interior again even in Takumi in CX-60 - not impressed, I falled in love with brown leather in Nissan Xtrail Tekna+ in champagne. Too many years with Mazda, imho not fancy interior leads me to this Nissan (but I would never pick it in black interior)
Did you mention that the hybrid has no spare tyre. Not important ? You may change your mind when you get a.flat on thd highway away from the city or in the bush. Pack food and drink as you may be waiting several hours before help gets to you. Good luck.
In some markets spares are not offered for either weight or packaging reasons. The general assumption is a mobile tire repair or flatbed truck will get you to safety sooner, than you'll change the tire yourself. Having said that, I appreciate the frustration, when it's the middle of the night, and help is unavailable.
@@MarekDrivesENG . I live in Australia where we.commonly drive.long distances. My wife and me.just arrived home in Brisbane from our property in the country some 300kms away The trip is mostly on country highways. There is no way I or any of my friends would buy a car without a spare.
@@MarekDrivesENG . No spare in the"hybrid" x trail in Australia . That's why my wife has just bought a Ti with the 2500 petrol engine. It has a spare. My family has owned 5 x trail over the years. This will be our 6th. The hybrid is not worth the money.
Yes it's horrible but more interestingly, despite the high price problem in general, the sales numbers are high and there is also the car-availability problem in the market.
I already drived 9000 km and average consumption is 6.9l/100. Town/highway - about 50/50 and the same consumption. On highway I drive at average 130kmh speed. Before xtrail I was driving Tiguan 2020 diesel and the average consumption was 8l/100 on 75000km.
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So basically they could've put 2 gears for the electric motor like Renault did with its multi mode gearbox. Efficiency at higher speeds would be better.
Basically they could have put in a diesel, and it would have been fine for many years :)
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@@MarekDrivesENG you know that didn't happen. Also, it isn't only hybrid. I call this a electric car with range extender. But poorly imagined. Small battery with 55 liter fuel tank for the petrol engine. This would be great plug in.
True. I think the Outlander, on which this is based, is a PHEV.
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@@MarekDrivesENG problem with this is that this is basically EV but half done. This range extender is not bad idea but with few changes could have been better. Bigger battery for day to day use with some 10 to 15 kwh would not make it that much heavier and petrol would br there for longer trips. Heat pump also could have been put in. Also, you can't escape physics. This is big ass vehicle no matter how you put it. And like i said, at least for the stronger motor they could have put one more set of cogs for higher speeds. Would have for sure made a difference at speeds over 100km/h. Or they could've put drive gear to 1.5 vct and have it to do higher speeds.
I thought that too, but just spilling whatever technology is around in a single car is not easy to do without it's problems. Phev sounds great but indeed is the most problematic car of them all because it's got all the checkmarks for every possible failure out there on every car type. Besides is super heavy.
MY son.bought this car a few months ago, and is not happy with the petrol consumption. My wife has the TI model with 2500 petrol engine. Fuel consumption is not much difference between both cars. And cost of fuel is close to being identical, as this car runs on premium fuel which is considerably more expensive than the standard fuel used by my wife's car. Begs the question. What's the point of this car. I guess you can drag off most other cars from the lights.
The high fuel consumption comes as no surprise to anyone vaguely familiar with the second law of thermodynamics. It probably is just another marketing bs to somehow smuggle an "e" into the car's name. Greenwashing all over.
There is one major flaw with this 'E-power / E-4orce' system. The engine is used purely to charge up the traction battery that feeds energy to the electric motors and that is fundamentally less efficient than just having the same engine sending tractive power directly to the wheels via a gearbox. The engine is less powerful than the electric motors are rated and the traction battery is very small, so if you want to use a lot of power, the traction battery will deplete very quickly even while the engine is running flat out. It may be clever, but maybe there's a reason why other manufacturers haven't already adopted such a system - it's pointless. Just get a conventional powertrain, save weight, save fuel and save money.
I personally would prefer the real Japanese hybrids, Toyota and Honda, that being said would evade Mazda as well. After Toyota and Honda only ones that are proven to be making usable hybrids are Germans with few premium brands and imo that's it for now. Nissan is still lacking and good luck using brakes as a replacement for differencial Nissan...
Why do you call it a hybrid ? It seems not so. So it seems that the e-4orce is all about power, not economy. But the battery is so tiny I wonder how long it can keep up high power and torque before it runs out of oomph. Not long I suggest. And charging from the small engine seems to be thermodynamically insufficient/inefficient. The alternative petrol version is apparently slightly more fuel efficient but only comes in 2wd. Oops. If the X-trail is an SUV then why does it come in 2wd-only versions clearly for nothing off road, not even a muddy track? Is it then just a high roof station wagon ? So maybe test again to really push the limits of power and torque, and maybe see how the 2wd does in snow etc.
@@MarekDrivesENG I had a situation in Alpes this summer on high mountain road (Grossglockner - see Google). The battery gets empty and the power of engine was not enough to reach the top 🤬 So I had to turn back and go 180km around to reach hotel.
offroad with electric car are dangerous too because you can stuck easilly in the middle of nowhere and range on offroad are several times lower then on normal roads because of spinning wheels so around 50-80km and you can recharge electric SUV only in bear ass somewhere while with normal ICE you could bring 10-20.30 liters of gasoline with you
Actually is not "e-force" is "e four orce" which is dumb ! MyTalisman 1.6 Tce 200hp gasoline fuel consumption si better then this model both on city and highway.
Nissan staff seem to have very limited knowledge of the SOVAB built products and the dealership workshops are too small to service them. Latest email from Nissan suggests it's our fault!!
You can set the car to remember E-Pedal status ;) Concerning fuel consumption - we are currently on a road trip of well over 1500km. The majority of it is in the alps, with climbs from 900m to 1500m above sea level and more on a daily basis. My 4x4 X-Trail Diesel was averaging ca. 10L/100km in the same scenario. The X-Trail e-4orce does it in under 8 liters per 100km, while having (subjectively) twice the power and souverinity and half the noise. In the lowlands on rural roads, we were averaging around 6 liters. So day to day fuel consumption actually is pretty awesome for a for a car that feels like it has a 3.5L V6 under the hood. Plus the exhaust gases are about as clean as it gets with an ICE car. All in all, its an awesome ride! 👍 [It was at 7.6 in the end. During the 850Km Autobahn ride back it only took 6.6 Liters]
Hey mate, how do you do this? I have not been able to set it on my car for the e-pedal
@@bustertruman8444 In the menu within the instrument cluster display (controlled from the steering wheel), under EV settings I think it was...it is possible 100%!
Is that on all model ?@NameNaameNameeNaamee
I drive this car mostly to school about 1 hour mostly highway im often on 7.1 to 7.5. for off road its certainly capable but the car comes as standard with economy tires they dont really work but moment keeps everything rolling easily you slide a bit here and there when its wet off road but not anything dangerous or concerning. Overal its very easy to drive only downside i can think of is the size it is and feels like an enormous vehicle so keep that in mind
I don’t really understand where the consumption rates are coming from. I have a 2WD, 5 seater e-power in top spec version. Driving 90km to work on the highway (100km/h) every day gives me number of 5.7l/100km and got even 5.3l/100km. This is NH summer so I expect to be around 6l/100km in winter. So pretty close to a RaV4 😊. Drive in B-mode and in economy setting, combined with the e-pedal function you will get very acceptable consumption rates
Truly enjoyed driving the X Trail which kept me safe in Kyushu island over a week with torrential rains, poor visibility of 50m for mountainous roads with mist and also country roads that were muddy and narrow. Would recommend this car anytime!
Thanks for the review Marek. I've seen a lot of other car reviewers struggle with the fuel consumption on the Nissan hybrid system as well, but the results you got in cold weather are crazy! I was really hoping for better economy from this drivetrain as it seems like an interesting concept. The interior looks like a big step forward though, good to see that Nissan is making improvements.
Interesting point about consumption in cold weather. I’ve had mine since Jan 2023. In Australia, I’m consistently getting 5.9-6.0 litres per 100 km.
I imagine it's somewhat warmer in Australia, than in Central Europe this time of the year :)
Hi Murray,I've ordered one in SA arriving next month.What is your rating for the car on the scale of 10?
@@vikramattri1166 8 or 9. Very smooth & refined step up from the T31 X-Trail & a real pleasure to drive. Enjoy!
Is SA South Australia or South Africa?
Wow, that's dam good going. I've had mine since July 2023 (Ireland) and would get at average 6.8 - 7.0 - best I've gotten over a weekend was 5.4. I drove a front wheel drive 2018 xtrail diesel for 5 years and would get around 6.7l per 100km and from 940km to 1100km on a tank. What version of xtrail epower are you driving.?
This last fall I took an evening trip around Bucharest, Romania, and for that trip I got an average fuel consumption of just 4 l/100km (5 seat 2023 Tekna e-4orce). My previous best was 4.9 l/100km. On both occasions I used the normal mode (not the eco), with B (regenerative braking), but without the e-pedal.
All in all, it has average fuel consumption rates, but I'll trade that every day for it's dynamics in the city and on the highway, on and off roads.
I have just received my X-Trail E-power e4orce. 525 Nm of torque, 7.0 s to 100 kmh, really joful to drive and only 6.5l (Eco mode 4.8l) in city with dynamic driving ... Steers well, nothing rattles like in VAG cars (VW, Audi, even Bentley and Porsche), suspension handles well. Very dynamic car and economical at the same time! I love B mode (braking while generating func-tion, but I don’t use e-pedal, which brakes for me in addition to B mode). It is also very quiet. Love at first sight (and my job gives me opportunity to drive almost everything).
I've found the Eco mode really poor on my Xtrail (e4orce SVE) and the fuel consumption no better than standard mode or B mode? I do a lot of short 5k school runs twice a day and at least 2 80-100km trips a week, weekends can be anything from 40/50km to 200km. Best range I've gotten is 700km on a tank with an estimate range of 40km left. I was getting 1000km + on my diesel xtrail.
@@lunarpulse are you happy with performance of the new Xtrail ?
Dinamic driving in eco mode???
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I am with you, an intelligent product, clever, well packaged and also adding a bit of fun to a fulfilled remit. Consumption with petrol engine and that front section are just reasonable. Well done as usual Marek and Ana.
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Nice vid 👌. In Australia as its warmer, you can get 6 litres per 100km
I love mine! Epower Eforce but I am still learning! I went off road but not in the snow yet !
Nice review. I got mine a couple of months ago and I've already taken it on a 3 country family camping trip through the Alps as well as german autobahn. Could not be more happy with it. Rest of the family love it too :)
Thanks for sharing!
Do you also have e -4orce? Or 2wd?
@@porosenokify e4orce
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I think Nissan should offer this powertrain in the American/Canadian spec Rogue.
Excellent Car review 👌🏽
Just the way it is
That was a good review thanks!
Thanks for watching!
It's interesting seeing in the comments that all this car's owners are happy with it but for all the others the car sucks because of this or because of that (they never being in the proximity, not saying driving it).
Agree on your comment. I took it for a drive the other day and was totally impressed, now considering this vehicle.
X-trail remembers the e-pedal mode everytime i restart the van automatically.
thanks - good review
Thanks for watching!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Great Review. Always look forward to Fridays.
Thanks! Have a great weekend!
Fuel consumption is disappointing. A 2013 Honda CR-V with a 2 litre non-turbo engine gets the same figures. So what use is a Hybrid if it does not excel in fuel economy??
Hybrid is not always only for fuel consumption.
previous generation x-trail with 1.6 diesel actually has better fuel economy, especially on highway where it can go as low as official 4.6l per kilometer or 50 MPG. and it's much cheaper, and has range about 1000km
It's not all about fuel consumption;comfort and driving experince(smooth,refined) matters more.And this hybrid set-up delivers this.
Nobody mentions this car has a very unique engine: the complex variable compression ratio (VCR).
Great video. I'm considering both the X-Trail and the Sorento - I like the look of the X-Trail but compared to the Sorento it's rather thirsty. A long lead-time on the Sorento, is making me think more seriously about the X-Trail, despite the relatively poor economy.
I'd have to test them side by side in the same weather conditions, but I get the impression X-Trail could be better in the city, while the Sorento would do better on the motorway (at moderate speeds of course). And the X-Trail is surprisingly capable off road. I'd never take the Sorento up there. Meanwhile Nissan insisted I try it off road, and it performed brilliantly.
I drove the 4wd e Force in tekna us 7 seater today…regarding consumption, I drove gently rolling country roads, highway and city, used the epedal function a bit and got an average 6.5l/100km so not too bad I think for that size car. Lovely very comfortable car and excellent proPilot function. Downside…it seems to have service intervals every 15000km, that is a lot more than the 30k in my Bmw. It was a test drive but considering one to buy
Regarding service intervals, 30k for BMW or VAG is the absolute maximum, and is reserved mainly for cars with mostly highway miles. Driving the car in regular traffic the computer will tell you to do a service in no more than 2 years, and probably much less miles. I had my first Countryman service after about 15k km, and that was 2 years, and the next one will be 12 months after the first one, with probably about 26-27k km on the clock.
So 15k (or 1 year I assume) is prudent, especially if you're planning to keep the car for longer.
@@MarekDrivesENG thank you Marek! I signed for a Tekna Plus today after watching your video several times 😀.Keep up the good video work 👍🏻
Thanks for the review, Marek!! When you say "Obtrusive drive raids", what does that mean, please?
Driver aids
Hi Mark, one of the most genuine car review i have ever seen so far! Congrats. I Have a question, which of course is really personal and will appreciate your feedback: As far as off-road capacity and dynamic of drive which would you prefer nissan xtrail 4-eforce or Subaru Forester 2.0l boxer 4adventure? thanks for your comment. Kindest regards
I'm not familiar with the 4Adventure trim, but assuming you're not looking for a 7-seater I'd pick the Subaru. Why not the Outback? It's more of the X-Trail competitor than the Forester.
@@MarekDrivesENG Hi Marek, and thanks for your insight i'll look at your review of the Outback and will think about it. Thanks a lot, have a nice day.Tommaso
A very interesting car.
is the A/C display color?!
How do I like it? I like it! It is an interesting alternative to Volvo XC60 in my opinion. X trail was always an understated option, especially the one from 2010s that had beautiful leather beige interior, cup holders directly in front of front vents and huge lights in roof rails. Good car this!
I like this car and sangyong Torres but I can’t choose between them
Could choose which one is better for your opinion PLZ
“Move torque with the brakes!” 🤣 same torque but use the brakes to throw different amounts away.
Has Anna ever considered entering the Paris Dakar? LOL. Good job in that sand!! You go girl!!
Nissan... I just never liked most of the Nissans I've driven except the first one when I was 17. That was a Datsun 280z. Having said this, maybe I'll go check out the Ariya since I haven't been at a Nissan dealership in 2 decades. Thanks Marek !
I'm trying to persuade her :-)
Oddly Nissan does not offer this drivetrain in the North American Rogue, but Mitsubishi (niche brand, here) sells the same car (rebadged) with the PHEV drivetrain. A missed opportunity.
A rebadged Nissan is a Mitsubishi? I thought they withdrew from the US.
@@MarekDrivesENG Haha. Yes. Somehow Mitsubishi is still alive here. Apparently Nissan holds a minority stake and so for this model they share a platform. Only minor styling differences between the two… and the unique-to-Mitsubishi PHEV.
@@MarekDrivesENG Mitsubishi also said they'd leave the European market, then they said they'd only sell the Renault based models, now they're bringing the Outlander (X-Trail PHEV restyles) back here after all. They're not very consistent with their word.
Marek is Crisp part of Nissan's subscription package? haha
can this tow? i am worrying about its low towing capacity.
1.8 or 2 tons (5/7 seater) FWD MHEV, while the full on e-4ORCE can tow 1.6/1.8 tons. The FWD e-Power is limited to 670 kg.
Hi Marek. Nice test, thanks! Tough question: Does X-Trail have any advantages over CX-60 Diesel? I'm trying to balance it over the fuel consumption loss.
It is 15 to 20k cheaper....
@@andrejkrusic372is it the are the same price here in sweden Mazda diesel is even cheaper then Nissan.
What about a 1.5 motor problems?
"The federal entity is opening an investigation involving over 450,000 Nissan Rogue, Nissan Altima, and Infiniti QX50 models, which use those two engines. According to the NHTSA, owners are reporting knocking sounds, loss of power, metal bits in their oil pans, and even total failures. Nissan has made changes to the engines' main bearings and L-links since they've been on sale to address potential engine damage; however, a recall hasn't been issued yet."
It's a relatively new issue. I don't think we had anything like that in Europe yet.
@@MarekDrivesENG The year 2024-25 will show after all these engines are not long in Europe.
Crazy that a Volvo V60 cross country wagon has 21 cm ground clearance, while most SUVs have less than that!
Nissan definitely stepped up their game in recent years in terms of design, but the hybrid system might need some tweaking for that price.
Hybrid sistem is for feeling that you drive EV, not a petrol car. X trail is very quick and silent.
@@gatisdzervens3618 I always thought it was mainly to save fuel compared to the much cheaper regular engine. In that aspect, Nissan failed. I am not saying it doesn't drive well.
@@emptyMan0 Yep, you looking wrong car. Fueel economy is diesel cars, Honda Jazz hybrid
So just to be clear, we are using an electric motor now, but need to carry our generator to power it with us, that seems so advanced…..
I've owned a few Nissans, first the Nissan Cherry all those years ago. Finished off with the 2.2D Turbo range topper X-Trail. Good amount of torque but couldn't get good miles/gallon. Cannot go back after owning a Mazda.
Which Mazda?
@Marek Drives in English ...I started with the MX-5, which I had 3, Mazda 3, Mazda 6 GT 2.5, CX-5 2.2D. Wife drives the CX-5 petrol. I'm now driving the CX-60. Even though the CX-60 has some quirks, its my favourite.
We have an MX-5 3rd gen. Lovely car.
@Marek Drives in English ...my last MX-5 was the 25TH Anniversary Limited Edition. I have a Facebook page if you search for it.
@@AHarker100 I had MPS3 last gen, now I have Mazda 6 Wagon 2.5i Rev-Top.. I switch to Nissan, I do not want Mazda interior again even in Takumi in CX-60 - not impressed, I falled in love with brown leather in Nissan Xtrail Tekna+ in champagne. Too many years with Mazda, imho not fancy interior leads me to this Nissan (but I would never pick it in black interior)
Qashqai on steroids. Would have liked those armrests in my Qashqai.
Did you mention that the hybrid has no spare tyre. Not important ? You may change your mind when you get a.flat on thd highway away from the city or in the bush. Pack food and drink as you may be waiting several hours before help gets to you. Good luck.
In some markets spares are not offered for either weight or packaging reasons. The general assumption is a mobile tire repair or flatbed truck will get you to safety sooner, than you'll change the tire yourself. Having said that, I appreciate the frustration, when it's the middle of the night, and help is unavailable.
@@MarekDrivesENG . I live in Australia where we.commonly drive.long distances. My wife and me.just arrived home in Brisbane from our property in the country some 300kms away
The trip is mostly on country highways. There is no way I or any of my friends would buy a car without a spare.
And does the Australian market spec X-Trail come without a spare? Not even as an option?
@@MarekDrivesENG . No spare in the"hybrid" x trail in Australia . That's why my wife has just bought a Ti with the 2500 petrol engine. It has a spare. My family has owned 5 x trail over the years. This will be our 6th. The hybrid is not worth the money.
Right, we don't get non-hybrid in Europe any longer. Emissions.
Great review interesting and comprehensive
Can’t say the same for the power train
It's a mixed bag :-\
I want to buy one but the problem is: the price. In Turkey İt's price starts From 100.000 euro...
HOW MUCH?!
Yes it's horrible but more interestingly, despite the high price problem in general, the sales numbers are high and there is also the car-availability problem in the market.
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so what real mpg?!
10-12 L/100 km.
I already drived 9000 km and average consumption is 6.9l/100. Town/highway - about 50/50 and the same consumption. On highway I drive at average 130kmh speed. Before xtrail I was driving Tiguan 2020 diesel and the average consumption was 8l/100 on 75000km.
The electric car with the highest fuel consumption.
Considering it's probably one of the heaviest EVs, I could live with that mpg.
Pasadzer Stanislav Paluch ,pasandzer Stanislav Paluch ...😂😂
So basically they could've put 2 gears for the electric motor like Renault did with its multi mode gearbox. Efficiency at higher speeds would be better.
Basically they could have put in a diesel, and it would have been fine for many years :)
@@MarekDrivesENG you know that didn't happen. Also, it isn't only hybrid. I call this a electric car with range extender. But poorly imagined. Small battery with 55 liter fuel tank for the petrol engine. This would be great plug in.
True. I think the Outlander, on which this is based, is a PHEV.
@@MarekDrivesENG problem with this is that this is basically EV but half done. This range extender is not bad idea but with few changes could have been better. Bigger battery for day to day use with some 10 to 15 kwh would not make it that much heavier and petrol would br there for longer trips. Heat pump also could have been put in. Also, you can't escape physics. This is big ass vehicle no matter how you put it. And like i said, at least for the stronger motor they could have put one more set of cogs for higher speeds. Would have for sure made a difference at speeds over 100km/h. Or they could've put drive gear to 1.5 vct and have it to do higher speeds.
I thought that too, but just spilling whatever technology is around in a single car is not easy to do without it's problems. Phev sounds great but indeed is the most problematic car of them all because it's got all the checkmarks for every possible failure out there on every car type. Besides is super heavy.
MY son.bought this car a few months ago, and is not happy with the petrol consumption. My wife has the TI model with 2500 petrol engine. Fuel consumption is not much difference between both cars. And cost of fuel is close to being identical, as this car runs on premium fuel which is considerably more expensive than the standard fuel used by my wife's car. Begs the question. What's the point of this car. I guess you can drag off most other cars from the lights.
WLTP
The high fuel consumption comes as no surprise to anyone vaguely familiar with the second law of thermodynamics. It probably is just another marketing bs to somehow smuggle an "e" into the car's name. Greenwashing all over.
Well, in the city, it recovers most of the energy as it decelarates so it is more economical and faster than a petrol-only engine oil car
You should show the US flag to represent US English. The UK never had the Rogue.
English is you know... English. Ain't nobody speakin' American.
@MarekDrivesENG You mentioned models that only went to the USA, not UK so your videos are for the US market.
Can't wait for the new Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
I will stick with mazda cx 60
Much more expensive!
@@yt-user7639 as a former owner of an x-trail I can tell you that is worth the difference!
@@andreaplesuvu635 OK thank you!
What X-Trail was is? The last one, T33? Could you maybe mention some points which make the difference?
There is one major flaw with this 'E-power / E-4orce' system. The engine is used purely to charge up the traction battery that feeds energy to the electric motors and that is fundamentally less efficient than just having the same engine sending tractive power directly to the wheels via a gearbox. The engine is less powerful than the electric motors are rated and the traction battery is very small, so if you want to use a lot of power, the traction battery will deplete very quickly even while the engine is running flat out.
It may be clever, but maybe there's a reason why other manufacturers haven't already adopted such a system - it's pointless. Just get a conventional powertrain, save weight, save fuel and save money.
something to bear in mind if you want to drive the car on a track. or once a year, being the fastest up a long country incline
I personally would prefer the real Japanese hybrids, Toyota and Honda, that being said would evade Mazda as well. After Toyota and Honda only ones that are proven to be making usable hybrids are Germans with few premium brands and imo that's it for now. Nissan is still lacking and good luck using brakes as a replacement for differencial Nissan...
This is actually like Honda's recent hybrid system.
Please make clear this is NOT a plug in. It wasn't obvious to me. As a plug in with a 25kwh battery it would have been more interesting to me.
New Mitsubishi Outlander is a same car and has Plugin. Soon in EU.
Why do you call it a hybrid ? It seems not so. So it seems that the e-4orce is all about power, not economy. But the battery is so tiny I wonder how long it can keep up high power and torque before it runs out of oomph. Not long I suggest. And charging from the small engine seems to be thermodynamically insufficient/inefficient. The alternative petrol version is apparently slightly more fuel efficient but only comes in 2wd. Oops. If the X-trail is an SUV then why does it come in 2wd-only versions clearly for nothing off road, not even a muddy track? Is it then just a high roof station wagon ? So maybe test again to really push the limits of power and torque, and maybe see how the 2wd does in snow etc.
Chances are you'd run out of road, before you deplete the battery below some limp mode level. Maybe in a track situation...
@@MarekDrivesENG I had a situation in Alpes this summer on high mountain road (Grossglockner - see Google). The battery gets empty and the power of engine was not enough to reach the top 🤬 So I had to turn back and go 180km around to reach hotel.
That braking too early and suddenly puts me right off
offroad with electric car are dangerous too because you can stuck easilly in the middle of nowhere and range on offroad are several times lower then on normal roads because of spinning wheels so around 50-80km and you can recharge electric SUV only in bear ass somewhere while with normal ICE you could bring 10-20.30 liters of gasoline with you
This is NOT wall-charging vehicle. It charges itself.
@@ArnesGurda pretty bad too,it use fuel snd you cannot use this el. for longer time
@@Mr11ESSE111 you can
@@Vitaliy2707 you can if you push with hands
Actually is not "e-force" is "e four orce" which is dumb ! MyTalisman 1.6 Tce 200hp gasoline fuel consumption si better then this model both on city and highway.
Nissan is a couldn't care less brand. They have been just nasty to us after spending £46000.
Please elaborate
Nissan staff seem to have very limited knowledge of the SOVAB built products and the dealership workshops are too small to service them. Latest email from Nissan suggests it's our fault!!
Well done nissan a full polluting EV......
How is it different from the hybrid RAV4?
Let's face it , it's like driving a Tesla with an electric generator strapped to it.excpet you can plug in the Tesla.