British Rail Network SouthEast+InterCity 1995-Ramsgate & Kensington Olympia Cl 37, 47, HST, DMU, EMU
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- It's August 1995 and a trip out to the seaside! Inter-City ran some summer Saturday specials from Birmingham to Ramsgate. They tended to use class 47/9 although odd locos did work (like a pair of class 31s & a Deltic) these trains. This one features a loco sponsered by Rail Magazine, 37 201 piloted an Inter-City 47/8 for the day. We start at Kensington Olympia where we see a couple of DMUs on the Willesdon-Clapham service before the Ramsgate service arrives. At Ramsgate we see the locos run round plus a couple of NSE EMUs. We finish back at Kenny O with the train departing and a Valanta powered Inter_City 125 HST passes through on one of the Eurostar feeder services from Manchester, these workings could only carry passengers booked on Eurostar so normally had more train crew on baord than fare paying passengers! If you liked the video please subscribe to my channel, there are lots more transport & quirky vids to upload!
Always loved travelling on these ‘slam doors’ units when I lived near Canterbury, and travelled from Herne Bay to Victoria.
I remember jumping off the train once as a kid off one of the slam doors, passing slowly through our station which wasn't stopping there. The guard shouting "OI!!!" I'd never do it again!
I too used these units between Sandwich and London and fondly remember them. I thought the seats were pretty comfortable in comparison with 423's with the high backed more upright seating.
@@stefcarolan7844 and the dust, dont forget the Dust !!
Lol. 😁👍
@@ianjones4116 ha ha indeed and the ashtray in the 411's that flipped over and emptied all over the seats
10:29 lovely valenta action! ❤
Just love the sound of those emus. The noisy track and the power units, the doors slamming. All so wonderfully familiar
Great video. Liveries are how I remember them and the old EMUs , I miss them . Awesome stuff
This is worth watching if only for the immense valenta action at 10:30!!!!
Haha,,,, never mess with a Trainspotter !!! I'll smack you in the mouth. Lol.
Wow, what a sick sounding Tractor,,, thank heaven (BR)
for the Mighty Sulzer.
Excellent Soi. Tickled me this one . 👍😂😎
I'm here to please..... lol
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus you always do,I've not seen a bad video yet. 😂👍😎
Happy days... Love the emu motors sound!
What a great little vid Cheers!
Thank you.... Not too much to film as i was out on the train to get the haulage in myself......
That 37 sounded pretty ropey departing from Kenny O. The 47 seemed to be giving it a helping hand
Yes, it sounded like it was mis-firing, and the 47 did indeed give it plenty of help most of the way back from Ramsgate, and probably all the way to Birmingham!
There were suggestions from many on board that the 37 failed north of Kensington Olympia, much to the dismay of the bashers (in particular the red pen merchants) waiting for it at Coventry and Birmingham International
Unusual to see a 37 and 47 pairing as the 47 is not fitted with blue star multiple working, so presumably these were worked in tandem. I have had 2 x 37 + 47 (triple headed) at Hereford Open Day.
The 4CEPs (and 4BEPs) were more tolerable as a southern region kart. I used to regularly get a 4CEP + 4VEP on the 21.00 Charing Cross to Dover, for the 02.00 sailing to Calais and the 05.25 Calais to Paris Nord which was a 2 x BB67400 and then the diagram changed to a single CC72000 to Amiens. I always sat in the 4CEP as it was more comfortable.
The 37 was supposed to be working the train on it's own, the class 47 crewed up and running only to provide ETH for the train. It was a Rail Magazine special to have the 37 on the front. But it was suffering from low power and the 47 was indeed helping out, tandem working as you say as they are not compatible for multiple working.....
Cheers Soi. At first glance people would think the 37 was the rescue loco as it is piloting. Whereas in fact, the 47'was doing the rescuing.
Great railway video again Soi Buakhao
Thank you very much!.....
Great video as always. Enjoyed the spat at Ramsgate. 🤣
Do miss the sound of the Valenta engines on the HSTs at the end.
Thank you..... I always had a good trip out on these workings, Deltic D9000, 47/9s, pair of 31s and very rarely a booked 47/8!.... lol
plushly replete with stories, this one here you're gracing us with 🍾 edit: and I'd quipped that before the squabble(?)!
Lol......
Ha great to see this! I 'photted' it with me 110 at Swanley and shared the snaps on farcebook groups couple years back. The bashers informed me of 201's problems and that it nearly went kaput at Bickley i think, but indeed managed the journey throughout with the aid of 47805. Happy days eh! Also i was in the background od M. Loaders (i think) phot from the A20 bridge at Swanley which was in next months Rail mag hehe :)
Interesting memories...... we could all hear that 201 wan't in the best of health, i'm surprised it made it back to BNS! I'll keep a look out for the pic in the next Beano......
Dialogue at7:10 😄
Violent hobby Trainspotting !! Dont f**k either a Spotter lol. 👍😂
@@ianjones4116 It fascinates me that no-one has actually thrown a punch at some of these railtour photoshoots. The behaviour of some so-called fans is incredibly poor. At Kenny O on the return trip you can see the guys immediately in front of the camera looking on in disbelief as another bad-mannered idiot slid into their field of shot, so he could get his own pic - and screw everyone else...
Good stuff and a good sound from the HST to finish off. 👍👍👍
I always had a soft spot for HST's and i think i caught them all with the proper engines.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbusdid you catch an mb190? Read about them but can't find audio
Wow. Me and Dad drove up to Ramsgate from Dover for this on a red hot summer Saturday. Now I’ve seen and heard your vid - I remember the nearly fight on the platform! I must have been stood next to you. Another great vid.
Any idea what the disagreement was about?
Think someone came and stood in front of the camera gallery at the end of the platform to get his own picture then got uppity when pulled up about it.
Sounds about right.....
Hellfire that’s some fast gear change @ 00:52
Not bad for an old manual box. My dad used to thrape these all the time. His train was very rarely late.😁👍
Another quick change at 01:06 too!
Yes
I don’t think a class 165 would pull off that quick lol
Pretty funny how some things never change: 7:07. Once again nice footage from the local trains and the special. As a Dutch driver it's pretty funny seeing ''our'' paintscheme on the 37 haha
When they Sectorised BR, the engineers department choose grey.... which was very drab. There were lots of enthusiasts on BR, so i'm sure that's why the Dutch colours were chosen!
D9000 regularly worked that train around the end of the decade. I took it from Reading to Oxford once
Yes, i seem to recall riding behind it from Birmingham International to Ramsgate. I'll hve to check, but i'm sure i videod it.....
D9000 was the booked motive power for the Ramsgate in 1998 and 1999
Great video 👍
Unfortunately there's always one that has to get in the way of everyone else. I noticed someone was doing the same at Kensington Olympia just before the 37+47 departed (at 8:47)
A busy day out due to it being well advertised by Rail magazine (aka 'The Beano'). So when lots of cranks are about trying to get pics it can get a bit raucus! Luckily video is easier rather than trying to get a one shot deal!
I noticed the shaking head 😂 of one with their view blocked
Kensington Olympia has to be the only “London terminal” not to be in zone 1
Also it’s a shame there are no more Kent to the North Cross Country trains I think in todays era they’d be popular
There's no "Franchise" with a remit for such services! Why not ? Because the Civil Servants (Gov't) who design, let & supervised the "Franchises" have NO knowledge or qualifications in rail management of the rail network. Which is dealt with by another Government department you will know as "Network Rail". Hence the left hand knows not what the right hand is doing. Just another absurd example of why the "Franchise" system never functioned as a "Railway", but cost the public purse three times more than BR did. And as a result, the Government has been slowly taking "Franchises" back under direct Government control. Or as a "Modern Railways" Editorial called it "Re-nationalisation by Stealth".
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Could the 37 control the 47 n vice versa, throttle wise when coupled up??.. They both throttled up when pulling off with the mk2 or mk3 coaches.
No, these classes could not work in multiple, they had a driver on each loco and worked in tandem.....
7:05 ooh some voices from the 90s and I'm just going to ignore the fact that that was the start of an argument
Sharfeastern accents 👍 like
What was that altercation at Ramsgate all about?
Someone standing in front of someone I expect (see8:50for another prize example 🙄)
Good old fashioned Kentish hospitality. Plebs are a plenty
@@iainmaturin8460 No, it was enthusiasts, people trying to get the best place for a photo, i have on occasions known plenty of verbal but have not seen any actual punch ups!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus didnt realise Spotting was so Physical. Or was he talking to his child,, parenting 101 😁👍
A bit of argie-bargie going on at Ramsgate I note!
Yes, a couple of photters getting riled with one another!
Choice comments @7.26. 😀
Too many people crowding about on a hot day......
watched to the end hoping to see soi punch someone... spoiler alert....
that didn't happen...
Lol..... It wasn't me arguing with anyone, it was two photographers that were getting rilled about positions and who was in who's way!.... Lots of noise but no actual punch up!
Within a few years Branston did away with all this having his own spat with Connex over access rights after the sell off. What a damn shame.
From what i could see, the trains were full of cranks, not many normal passengers......
I wonder what the arguing was all about. It kind of spoiled what is otherwise a fantastic clip Soi. But then again there's always someone to spoil things like that tall guy standing a bit too close to the edge of the platform.
All part & parcel of the day out...... These saturday workings used to get various non standard locos so had a following but this was sponsered by Rail magazine, so there were lots of extra bodies about.....
Who's moaning & who's going to get a smack in the mouth ? what was that all about ?
Two enthusiast's, both trying to get photos of the loco......lol