More solar production to charge our 44kWh battery. I really need it! 🌦️🌦️🌦️
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- Since we have finalised the Battery2.0, I'm having trouble charging the 44kWh beast with my tiny solar array. I was talking about the solar upgrade for a while and recently picked up a used 3kW solar system ( • S.P.A.T.-Testing used ... ).
As we are now in the cooler season, it's time to climb on top of the roof again and start upgrading our solar. This is again true DIY work with a lot of modifications needed.
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Andy, there’s a third reason to raise the panels. Heat. More space, more air flow, cooler panels, better efficiency.
Yes, that is true, too!
Great “Videographer" work that was fun. Thanks for all your work to make the videos fun and educational.
Thanks for recognising that. It always takes me twice as long if I have the camera running. But I like it and always think how to create different shots, away from the usual.
Andy, Thankyou so much, I don’t know where to start. You make my soul smile 😊
This is fast becoming one of my favourite channels 👍👍👍
You should have your twin helping you out more Andy, he seems helpful 🤣
He can be quite nasty at times, so I only ask him if I need to 😉
Uncle, I really like your style. Doing things Your way. Keep it up!
Here, in not so hot and sunny central Europe I need more panels and less batteries :-)
Nice job, hello✌️✌️✌️. Take care always ang God bless.
Thank you! You too!
Man you make living Fun my life sux but you somehow bring me lots of Joy, Thank You!
Thanks a lot, keep watching!
Andy, I'm so envious , not only for your enginuity but mostly of your home location, it looks like heaven to me. I don't suppose you fancy adopting me?😂😂😂😂. Another most enjoyable vid. Thank you.
Wow, thank you. If I adopt you, you have to clean the pool, mow the lawn and walk the dogs. There would be no time to enjoy the property😂 It's just too much work!
@@OffGridGarageAustralia That's a shame Andy, I suppose my dislike of swimming, my allergy to cut grass and my preference to cats rather than dogs would be a problem then, not to mention that my age of 60 plus might exclude me from being adopted. Keep up with your super informative and entertaining vids. All the best from NOT so Great Britain. The land of backward thinking government!
@@stephenmayers4033 Thanks Steven, we have a cat as well, so...
Thanks Andy
No worries
I just love the fact that you know how to create good vids while installing.. I have to follow your style when I'm installing.. Cheers
Thanks Daniel, much appreciated. I try to make as entertaining as possible. We have enough boring channels on YT.
22:02
Yep, but not so hot 🌧
Hoch die Hände, Wochenende XD
Haha, das kannte ich noch nicht!
Enfin à jour ! et merci pour le début de cette nouvelle saison d'épisode dans cette nouvelle installation de panneau solaire dont j'attends la suite et le suivi du rendement de la production. Merci à ANDY1 et ANDY2🤣
Hahaha, merci beaucoup par Andy et Andy2!
Keep up the good work Andy!!!!!!! Really enjoy your GREAT attitude! So many challenges met with a smile.
Thanks so much!
bombenfest sounds like a strong bond. thx
The strongest you can imagine 😁
@@OffGridGarageAustralia There is a german channel you might like or need soon who repairs inverters, mostly small mircroinverters but also a lot of other stuff viewers send to hiim and ask for a repair. Yes, the channel name to search is really hard, asthonishing and surprising or unbelieveable that that was available: simply 'Der Kanal'
Lots of different stuff and great to watch cause he explains a lot.
There is no substitute for PV except more PV 😉
Auf Dauer hilft nur Power ^^
Mehr ist mehr!
More nuts … count me in., I love your camera angles
Thank you. Doing something different for a boring topic, right?!
Funny stuff! I used the same method to hoist my panels to the barn roof. OK Andy, another one! Love it.
Thanks 👍
Thanks for that I was worried about putting holes in my shed roof you have inspired me to just crack on a just do it.
Yes, do it! I never had any issues with this method. This rubber sealings under the feed are what the manufacturer provides. Also, the roofing screws have rubber sealing to close the top of the feet. No problem.
Love all the time and effort you put into the videos. Thank you for the hard work :)
Hay Andy I love your projects but amazingly it's you and your acting and videography that puts a smile on my face every day thanks for that mate.
I'm struggling with the sun right now in Beenleigh iv only got 2 ground array's and a rented 2 story house I'm to scared to put a temporary non destructive solar panels up there it's so high and a old tile roof.
Thanks a lot Luke. Yeah, rented houses are quite difficult to install solar on. How's the ground mounted array holding against the wind?
Love your carefully thought out camera angles Andy!
Thanks, making a rather boring a bit more interesting, right. As you can tell, I'm not a tripod fan and steady camera shots 🤭
cant wait to load some panels on my roof with the help of panospapadimitriou like you did!!! lollll
Sei un grande Andy 🔝😁💪🏻⚙️
Amen, I peaked at 9 amps yesterday, this cloudy nonsense is for the birds. Summer is close n we can get back to the norm. Excellent work Andy, I'm glad you had another Andy there to help get them on the roof!
Yes, the clouds are insane. We get just half a day of sunshine at the moment, then nothing any more afterwards.
Yes, Andy is helping Andy. Sometimes...
Looking great Andy 👍
Thanks Dave!
Hi Andy. Been watching, learning and enjoying your output for quite a while now, from not so sunny Ireland. May thanks.
A small point. I was taught many moons ago that if you put a split ring (non shake ) washer on a bolt, do not use a mudguard /penny washer as well. This stops the non shake washer “digging in” and could reduce it ability to refrain from working loose.
Keep up the good work.
Regards.
Mark.
Thanks a lot Mark. That's a good point you're raising. The washer could just spin and loosen the flange nut as well. I will change that! Thanks heaps for pointing this out.
Thanks for the video, Andy. Another great video, as always. Very clever editing with your identical twin. Have a nice day.
Thanks a lot. It's good when you have someone to help you with that sort of work 😊
Hard work Andy , I feel the pain. You will be rewarded with the extra kw's.
Cheers my brother!
Thanks Joe. Yeah, I hope it makes a bit of a difference.
As great as you are at all things solar Andy, I think you are just as good with your editing and camera work. Tell your wife, thank you for your time!
I'll pass this on, thank you very much!
Ja! Hallo Andy, Liebe Grüße aus Namibia!
Sehr gute Videos lieben deinen Enthusiasmus und dein technisches "Know-how", Subbed! Und, immer bombenfest!😁😁😁😁 And I know, for a German 0.5mm Is A LOT!
Heya, more solar I like it
Nice Selfie-Stick :D & Great Project!
Hahaha, yeah, it's a heavy one though! 😂
Lololol, Andy you never cease to amaze me!!! Truly sir you are an anomaly! Moving forward, you sir are kickass by all means please continue to do what you do because my friend you're doing it extremely well!
Thanks a lot for your nice comment!
@@OffGridGarageAustralia you are very welcome Andy.
Rick Fort Worth Texas.
I must be psychic... you're jumping into adding the panels like I predicted last video. You made good progress and that camera work is epic.
Thank you very much. Yeah, there is still so much work to do, right? I feel it will never stop. And that's a good thing.
Yes solar panel sistema☀ 🔌⚡💡🔋👍
My issue is any shade thats casted on the panals. Haha i know solar so far is free. Thanks for the upload.
I compensate with more panels 😊
What a team, if only I lived a little closer I'd be your third Andy!
You'll notice your shed is much cooler in summer, especially with that extra air gap. Not sure about the warranty on the used rails with those extensions ;) but most wind damage is from suction, and that shouldn't be any weaker.
Great camera work.
Nice play on the half inch.
Thanks a lot Andrew. Also for your ongoing support. Two Andys are sometimes more than I can cope with 😂
I could already feel that last summer, it was a lot cooler already with 2/3 covered up.
SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!
Exactly that noise!!!!
Hey Andy, I just realized why youre not using hybrid system. Its because of its name of youre youtube channel "Off-grid garage" 😁😁😁
I made a whole series of why this is 😉 It's not just because of the channel name.
Hey, Andy! I have two little questions for you. First, ¿what's your job?, I mean, daily. And second, ¿what's your wife says when ear you speaking alone in your garage in front of you camera? Please, I want a POV video from her view! LOL ;) ... hugs from a cloudy winter Argentina!
Thanks Jacinto. I'm working in IT and my wife is an artist. She works in her own studio inside the house while I talk just to myself in my garage 😂
I find it funny to hear you talk about winter when your “winter” is nicer than the summers we have here.
It potentially is. I watch Gary Reed's channel from Northern Ontario sometimes and the summer seems... not so much summer up there...😂
I ended up not lifting my panels high, still worked. But it can be a pain with the tech screws.
I thought I was catching up to you... back to the Wholesaler for more panels ;)
Hahaha, the race is on!
Obviously you have a lot of unused roof space and use old panels to increase yields. Probably a good solution in your case, but isn't it a good idea to try using panel optimizers, especially with so many tree shades? I would be interested if in future videos I get information on how effective the optimizers are in your situation and which brand works best for you. Thanks for the videos so far.
I have shown the optimizers already in one of the last videos, not in action, just when I bought them. I will do some testing and see if they improve the situation. I doubt they will but let's see...
👍 Thanks :-) 🌞=⚡
Thank you too
Hey Andy great vid, you could make up some 6mm earth links instead of replacing the fibre extension pieces.
Not sure if this is necessary. The rails and panels are grounded with 4mm cable to the earth bar inside the garage. I was just thinking, the metal links would be a far better grounding method (as an addition) as the just the cables. I will probably replace the ones at the front and end of each rail as they are easy to reach.
To anyone considering adding mount extensions like Andy has, please consider your wind load where ever you are in the world. The extension introduces a fair amount of leverage against the roofing screws. Strong winds can and will wiggle and jiggle things until metal fatigue takes its toll. For Andy in particular, 4+ hours of 150km/h winds as a cyclone blows through is a real possibility now with the progress of global warming. Cyclones, out at sea, are already making it down to Sydney latitudes.
100%. Also be aware that you normally need to leave 2h (h is height of panels) gap between the edge of the panels and edge (or ridge) of the roof. So in Andy's case where panels are 150-200mm above roof. He should leave a 300-400mm gap from all edges of the roof
Ah, is this the installation rule for QLD? I could fit only a fraction of the panels on the roof then...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia that's the requirements based on the Clenergy installation manual and engineering certificate. I believe QLD requirements would say that you need to use an engineered panel racking solution (I.e comply with the Clenergy install manual and calculations).
I'm based in NZ and we use most of the same standards as Aus.
I've also used clenergy racking for my system, so I went through the manual in detail.
Hello Andi, this alloy (aluminum) debris you can easily remove with ceran cook top cleaner.
Like from Priva or Dr. Beckmann……
Can't ever have enough solar... or batteries... :)
Batteries are done for the next few weeks but solar is on the list all the way up!
wait... you replace the fiber type bars but insert the feet with the rubber and want to get a better grounding?
Yeah that's what I thought... rubber between bracket and roof, and rubber between bracket and screw head. If the screw runs with clearance in the center of bracket hole... that'll insulate.
Actually at 18:16 it looks like the screw rubber may often fall into the bracket. Somewhat losing the weather seal.
I didn't think about the rubber feet 🤦♂️🤷♂️
First time I see you not wearing flip flops during work 😄
It was cold 😏
Next video again, ok?
I noticed the Gazebo structure had no shading. A place for panels in the future. I would trim some trees. I'm guessing you want the shade for the buildings? Else than the pain of cutting down some trees. Nice video Andy.
Even trimming these trees would cost a fortune. The shading is a big relief in summer time.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia That Gazebo looks like a good place for panels.
@@ronwest7930 The one above the pool? That's not a structure where I can just add panels. It's a cloth shade so does not have any strength to withstand wind forces.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia It could be changed. Something to ponder. It seems to be the one area that gets sun without shade.
After you get the rest of the panels up and connected, could you go over the wiring schematic.. Which ones are parallel, which ones are series and how all of the wires mate up on there way to the main breakers. Maybe a white board schematic showing amps volts and watts as they as they are combined.This will give me an idea of how to configure my panels. Thank you in advance.
Absolutely. That is definitely part of the installation and upgrade process.
Naandsè van SA
Patrick, Andy is Bavarian FYI.
Nope, I'm not.
Oops my mistake. I was thinking of Oettinger. My profound apology mein Freund. Some times mind plays tricks. 73s…
Hola!
Hi!
I see you can do some cleaning on the roof and the solar panels. But i think you are short on water to do it or you are not in the mood, haha.
Definitely not short on water atm 😊
Thanks for the look and doing all the hard work while we sit back and enjoy a glass of water (many of us here can no longer afford a cold Spat now, not to mention gasoline). Btw, any thoughts on your local codes for structural requirements and ensuring proper anchoring for wind loads? In Hawaii and other parts of the world, I'm guessing what might be secure in Sunny Hot Queensland or Black Forrest might end up, up, up and away.
Thanks Jack. Gas is over $2 down here as well. Not that it bothers me, but...
The solar mounting is as per manufacturers recommendation, so, yeah, that's totally OK, as it is.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia And with higher energy costs across the board still to come, the off-grid garage might be considered an investment model more should consider.
Andy is currently likely in cyclone rating B where he is, but this is expected to move to rating C at some point due to global warming. Whilst his mounts are correctly screwed down to the roofing and the panels are correctly attached to the rails, those extensions are the problem. Being home made, and in at least half of them not even using a suitable material, they have no wind rating at all. If Andy were to contact the manufacturer of the roof mount and rails and explain what he's done they'd want no part of it. It's all on his shed, not his house, so that is a saving point. If the roof on his shed is damaged by the actions of the panels in a storm, insurance relating to storm damage on the shed is void. If a panel breaks loose during a storm and smashes into his house, well that would be an interesting discussion at the claims desk. Yes. I do know what I'm talking about. I spent 15 years in the insurance industry doing behind the scenes technical work and the things the assessors and claims staff would talk about ...
@@retrozmachine1189 Thanks, Just the information I was wondering about.
I wonder if the isolation of the panels was causing the phantom voltage at night time
The panel frames and rails were always grounded, same way as they are right now.
I think you're already done, but could you try the SRNE MPPT 250V 85A charging current instead of the Victron. Seems very similar.
I had not the best experience with the SRNE products...
here in the uk we have a problem with pigeons nesting under the panel they produce edging that goes long the panels to close them in maybe the same could be done to stop leaf's etc
We have this mesh as well to stop them nesting. Once you have this mesh in place, there is still leaf coming in and piling up, then you have an even larger problem as you cannot reach the area any more... I had this these gutter guards which supposably stop leaf getting in your gutter. Well, tehy somehow did the opposite and I could never clean them. I removed them quickly again...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia dont think ones we have are mesh they id say like plastic strim that lucks under the panel against the roof i had thoght my self of getting gutter cutting in half and moutning to the panels the problem is making them follow the rises and falls of corragated roof
Pigeons are a big problem here where I live too. (Brisbane, not all that far from Andy.)
Can't you prune the branches of the trees casting shadow on your panels? It appears you have a lot of shading.
That's in the next video. Not a solution... far too many trees. It would look terrible.
Andy, missing your steel-cap sandals 🤣 Was wondering, with 44 kWh worth of battery capacity, when you will increase your production. Well done!
I had to wait until it's cooler on the roof. But now, we're in full swing!
ASB (Australian Safety Boots) will come again 😉
What was that music/song. I loved it. @11:18 🤙🏻
Gee, got a twinbrother now?
Andy was helping Andy. That's what they sometimes do if they are not fighting each other. 😁
Very enjoyable again. Thx.
Btw i am about to install 2 panels and the instructions say to stay clear of the edges of the roof to reduce wind forces on the panel.
You don't care about that i see?
What does clear of the edge mean though? 10mm, 100mm, 500mm?
The wind which goes in on one side can freely escape on any other side of the panels, so, no, that's not of much concern. Maybe if you life very close to the coats and have high winds...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia 300mm. They are very generic install instructions for up to buildings to 15m high.
I got space, so I'll keep clear. Good to see different ways with sensible reasoning.
Btw The rails i got delivered from the shop are 30mm high.... Very low.
@@camielkotte different methods and material. It's always best to stick with the supplier's recommendations.
300mm is a lot, that would cost me full string...
I try to like , subscribe,. And leave a comment, even it it's something dumb and off the WALL, .
Or roof 😳
Thank you.🍺
G’day Andy, wouldn’t the rubber between the feet and roof limit grounding?
Yes, it does. Good point!
I know you have tested quite a few things to do with the LFP batteries such as the voltages you recommend, could you publish those on your site please as a quick reference please? Perhaps the settings you have chosen for your solar charge controllers and inverters?
Yes, Matt, this will come very soon!
88th!
You know the S-5! clamps for a metal roof are not that expensive. You can do that whole system for less than the cost of the BMS.
I don't know S-5 clamps for roofs.
Hi Andy, re the change of the existing risers to allow a grounding connection. Aren't they isolated anyway as they are mounted with a rubber seal between the roof and the foot?
Yeah, that's right, I didn't think about that. They are only connected through the screws really, aren't they?
Can you cut some tree branches to have more sun light reaching the panels, I notice my self that panels will loose a lot in the shade, i have 3 panels in the sun worth more then 30 in the shade.
Nope
#Ständerbohrmaschine would make life easier. Grüße aus not so sunny not so hot germany
I don't have space for one!
You should cut down all the trees around the garage instead of buying new solar panels. Ursachenbekämpfung as the German says
😴
Which part of Oz are you in, Andy?
Queensland, west of Brisbane.
Let's talk about the earth ?How, why and what is all about? Regards from Germany Marko
The earth in terms of grounding?
Everything fine and even without SPAT? How is this possible?
We will calibrate the solar panels when they are all installed. I have 12 SPATs already i the fridge, one for each panel 😂🍻
Sunny and hot? 4°and raining in Melbourne at the moment
My son is going to move to Melbourne next year. I said ' don't!' 😁
@@OffGridGarageAustralia One of the great things about Melbourne is this - If you don't like the weather, wait five minutes. It's four seasons in one day here. 😉
You don't need to caulk those brackets on the roof? Can't water leak in from the top where the bolt is?
Hence the rubber under the feet and the screws have a rubber seal as well. Also, the feet are usually under the panels. Never had any problems with that method.
You've got snakes
Yes. (Almost) every country has snakes.
Will the rubber pads reduce the grounding connectivity? (Rely on screw contact only...)
You don't need a bond between the roof and panels.
Yes, they will reduce it a bit. The main grounding is between the rails, the panels and the main ground point inside the garage.
Andy, do you do (or have considered) any kinda passive solar heating of water?
No I haven't. Is this something you can just add to your solar panels or are special panels needed? I read it's not worth it and better to keep both separate.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia you just make a box and put that cheap black plastic pex in. The sun heats the box (and the water) and you don't have to spend money to heat your pool or house water.
@@jondavidmcnabb if it just would be that simple...
Where did you get that METERSTAB from? :D
Grüße aus Bayern
It was in the container when we moved here in 2009. I had it for a long time back in Germany. I don't think you can get them down here...
It trips me out so mush that its winter down under...
Winter for solar is though, i wish i had more flexibility in panel positioning and room in general,
sadly here in Belgium(my region) Real estate is so expensive that large homes or large jards that lend themselfs to large solar installs
are no longer achivable for my genereation. only the older generation had the chance to buy properties like that, or you have to be a milionair...
I have every square cm of roof covered (South South-West) 9.6kW peak 30 panels total, and last winter was so bad i never topped my battery.
I am thinking about generator options but i think my neighbours would HATE me if i need to run it couple of hours every day.
Any ideas on alternatives for off grid future in a closely populated area Andy?
I'm really grateful of the space I have, also having this garage as my personal playground and I can just do whatever I want. I'm fully aware of this very lucky situation and think about everyone else who is not in such a position.
Have you tried adding solar on the other roofs of your house if possible if this is an option at all? Also, fences could be a good area to install more solar, especially good for winter.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia sure did, i even have the panels for the solar pool heating but my back neighbour decided to plant trees there.... Soo that plan is canceled, i do think i Could add a row of panels on the wall Just below the gutter, 12,5M long in landscape... Maybe if my wife allows it... Hahaha
@@bjornemmy Along the outside wall of the house does not look too bad. She will love it 😃Especially when you both can spend more money on other things with all the energy savings.
erdung macht man grundsetzlich mit kabel. aber mal eine andere frage wieviel solarpower kannst du an deine controller anschliessen ,da gibt es ein limit. Oder rüstest du noch einen controller nach?
Klar, alles ist mit Kabeln fein geerdet.
Die SCC hab ich aufgeruestet als ich die PowerWall gebaut habe. Die koennen jeder 4000W @48 dauerhaft verkraften. Das habe ich schon so geplant, das jeder SCC eine Dachhaelfte bedienen kann. Fuer das andere Dach gibt's dann extra Controller.
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6:19 1650mm x 1000mm panels?
similar to my 350w poly panels
Yes, they are 1650mm x 950mm at 250W. So you got the same size but 40% more production. Something to consider in the future.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia 350W is what the label says, but honestly, I am getting about half as much: 16 panels producing 3~4KW mid day.
Everytime I hear you saying bombenfest my brain wanders off asking if you speak German or bombenfest has made it in the Australian dictionary...
And now I see a German Meterstab
@@patrickweggler Er ist gebürtiger Deutscher...
Welcome to the channel, Patrick. Have a look in the video description, there are links to my German channels.
053022/1222h PST 🇺🇸 053122/0522h Brisbane 🇦🇺 Guten Tag mein Freund. Wie geht es lhnen? Danke schoen. I’m seeing you, once again, perched high up on top of the Garage roof. Good to see you are adding additional PV panel to boost charging current. Looking forward to the successful final assembly and commissioning the system. Take care and be safe. 73s…
Thanks, Sree. It will take a while until this is ready. But we have so many other things to do in the meanwhile...
Danke..
a little shade,and all the production goes brutally low,i dont know how u can afford any shade from trees on those panels...u would cut the trees down,u need full sunshine on those for good production...
How boring would that be. And so wrong!
You don't need to buy more solar panels, because you have overgrowing trees!! Just cut the trees.
Sag mal, bist du eigentlich mit dem vom Kanal „dieserdad“ verwand?😂
Nein.
As I have suspected since subscribing to your channel, you have a serious shading issue with your array, that's why on a cloudy day your yield is so poor.
I remember commenting that you have too much trees some time ago, and your reply was that you don't have enough 🤣 lol
We're still planting more tress, that's correct. It's essential in our world.
True, especially mango trees😆 We might need trees but solar panels need light!
@@martdaymo They get light, just not all of it. But exactly that makes the whole thing so interesting.
Imagine I would have a perfect north facing roof without any shading. It would just work and there would be nothing to show and learn...
warum schreiben die deutschen hier alle in seiner sprache 🙂 😛
er sagt ja auch immer bombenfest im video 😛
irgendwie kommt mir das so vor seitdem ich deine videos kucke (und auch nicht wusste das du mal in deutschland gelebt hast) (und ich genau danach gefragt hab 🙂)
das du jetzt mit absicht immer deutsche wörter nimmst 🙂
bin nur auf dich gestoßen (letztes jahr) als ich mal nach life4po gesucht hab....
bin ja in der Car Hifi szene sehr beschäftigt...
ps trink nicht soviel Öttinger das macht nur dumm im kopf und schmeckt sowieso nicht 🙂
LG aus Bayern Landkreis Dillingen (DIllingen direkt)
Na dann...