It is sad for sure, but it had more to do with it than that. Bud had already been on the hot seat in 21’ prior to them winning the chip, and certainly would’ve been fired if they had lost to the nets. I do wish bud had had a season with Lillard there, as I think things could’ve been different, but the window with players of this age is so small they had to make a change.
@@jacobdonnelly27 Jrue got eaten up by Jimmy against the heat in 23 and also shot terribly from 3 that series. His only postseason run with them that can be considered “good” was 21’
@@LeadHandMedia They have no assets left. They only can trade Giannis and go into a rebuild. Nobody wants Middleton, Lopez or Dame. The best they could do at the deadline is swap out some role players. But that won't move the needle.
08 championship, tenure in the league, knowing how to say the right things for interviews especially for a team desperate for a new head coach. Doc should be the coach of like the pistons or in other words a bad team who's floor he can raise, that's what he's been good at. He doesn't know how to make the most out of superstar players. The bucks are completely lost and listless on defense. They're getting killed on hustle stats. Dame and Giannis, they're just relying on sheer talent rather than anything to get them to gel together on plays and make the most out of each of their talents. Doc can't do big, high expectation teams.
You know how players somehow keep fucking the same 6 or 7 women ? Teams keep hiring the same 6 or 7 coaches. The NBA is the World ambassador when it comes to recycling shit.
DLillard has never been a good defender and now that hes lost a step or 2 teams are just going straight at him. He is the target on offense and it doesnt help they also have gary “no defense” trent jr who also is no help to dame. It is a very unfortunate situation on defense because its a 3v5/ 2v5 since their defense is so poor. It also doesnt help that they have doc rivers and darvin ham that are completely over their heads with this one.
Sure. But that’s far from their biggest issue. Against the grizzlies Dame was ragged. Otherwise, his defense has been above par (for his standard). As a blazers fan I am going to kill myself.
@ really wasn’t it after they got rid of kyrie and Hayward that they really started winning. I wouldn’t consider jrue and porzingis chasing the big shiny names
For every case of it not working there are cases of it working out, Donovan Mitchell to the Cavs, Kyrie to the Mavs, Gobert to the Timberwolves, all of those teams are competitors because of those trades. It can work, it's just when it fails, it really fails.
@@willemdaho3 Denver was up 20 in an elimination game and blew it. Almost certainly would’ve beaten the Mavs and would’ve been 50/50 to beat Boston. Bucks haven’t been in a position to get back nearly as much since then
@@johnathoncuratolo4573They would not have beaten tbe Mavs. They couldn't even hold a 20 point lead against the team the Mavs handled easily. Cope however you need to.
@ I’m not a fan of either team bruh I do not care 😂 it’s almost like matchups matter and while the Mavs can well enough guard Ant and Kat who are jacking up 3s, Jokic would’ve averaged 40 15 and 10 against them.
As a bucks fan since I was 6 in 2005 (Australian hopped on board with bogut) this is probably the worst time since I supported them. At least when they were bad it was exciting to see them do well- but the experience of seeing them have 2 mvp caliber players but play soulless, no chemistry basketball and playing well under expectations is so much worse than when they just had a bad team for ages. 2015 playoffs were one of my favourites because they came off a 15-67 season and managed to have a bounce back 41-41 year and took a good bulls team to 6 where it kindve looked like maybe they could make a run at a 3-0 comeback. Gimme that year over this shitshow any day- yeah they’ll probably finish in the mid to high 40s in wins but they should be so much better
Honestly they should have just let him go to Miami. You have to account for chemistry in trades like that, they are both really different guys culturally and I know they are trying to make it work.
All I heard from Bucks fans this off-season: "Dame & Giannis weren't healthy!" "Doc actually started winning near the end of the yr, Adrian Griffins 30-13 doesn't count, he won against bad teams." "Dame's offense this season being healthy will be the difference!" 😂😂🤣😂
Dame and Giannis can't play together. Giannis sucks at setting picks and doesn't move well without the ball. Dame clearly is on the way down, his shot has become very inconsistent, he's also doesn't look as crisp on drives like he used to. So their offense boils down to them taking turns with some random 3s by the others. Their defense... sucks. Ja exposed them yesterday. Brook isn't fast enough anymore. Giannis will always be a plus defender, but he's not a rim protector. Playing drop requires elite perimeter defense. So unless Middleton somehow returns and stays on the court, they're cooked.
I think dame and giannis can match, I just don’t understand how there hasn’t been any progress or improvement with them matching. Like idk if it’s coaches holding them back or stubbornness from one or the other but like fuck man work it out, change how you play and I promise you it’ll be for the best. Giannis sucks at setting screens if he can get that down I think there will be some immediate improvement, he just needs to work on that.
@@xtravagancy7023 Let's be realistic: Giannis turns 30 soon. He won't turn into a different player, just look at his FT shooting. He is who he is, and honestly, that's totally ok. Some of the issues definitely are related to coaching. I know, Bud sucked at making adjustments during the playoffs. But he also built this team from scratch and led them to a title. Since they've fired him, they kinda lost their identity.
@ I think something like setting a screen more effectively can be learned. Look at Brook Lopez, he was known as a paint player and defender now he’s evolved into a deep shooter (hasn’t seemed like it this year but) around the same age as giannis if not even a few years later. Same thing with a superstar duo like Shaq and Kobe, Shaq was the man in Orlando, paired up with Kobe and changed how he played to more effectively use their duality and look what it led to. Players can absolutely change but I do agree that firing Bud and resorting to inferior coaches is the root of the problem and was the start of what we see now.
Giannis passive-aggressively requesting a trade after he got what he wanted the last time he explicitly requested a trade (a susperstar to prove the Bucks were serious about winning another championship).
Player empowerment. When you let the players run the front office and pick the coach this is what happens. Let the players play, coaches coach, and GM's GM.
Yes and no. Because the reason the players have this much power is because for decades countless all time greats or even just great players spent prime years with an organization that wants to be cheap and don’t want to win. There needs to be a balance
But players choosing their coach is not a new thing, Magic Johnson was the big decider in firing Paul Westhead and that move ended up being the right one.
Giannis does this a lot. Putting pressure on the front office to make a move. Getting Dame made sense but firing Adrian Griffin and hiring Doc Rivers was the worst decision the front office could have ever made.
Dame hasn't been the same since his Ab injury 2 seasons ago. I know he had surgery to repair that abdominal muscle that put him in a shooting slump but ever since then he's fallen off from being a clear top 3 PG in the league. Sad to see. 😢
Bro he bounced back and had the best season of his career and averaged 30ppg before getting traded to the bucks. Hes just getting older and he’s a smaller guard that relied on athleticism. It’s a tale as old as time. Stop spewing nonsense 😂
He was never THAT good. He was empty stats on bad teams as a heliocentric shotchucker that relies on awful officiating to get half his points. He couldn't defend ME and he's not a great floor general either.
@@SantiagoSanchez-hb4js Getting older doesn't affect shooting ability tho, if anything shooters normally age like fine wine in the NBA since that's pretty much all they can do when they're out of their prime and lose the athleticism. Klay and Dame are the only snipers i've ever seen in the NBA get worse with age and it's hard to believe that two top 5 shooters in history just all of a sudden become bad shooters late in their careers where it's supposed to be at it's most polished. It has to be some nagging injury or post-surgical pain, scar tissue, it's gotta be something besides just flat out being washed.
@@ou8428 Empty stats on a bad team 🤣 go rewarch those series' he was having against superior teams where he solo carried the Blazers to deep playoff runs no other PG in the league could've gotten them to
What Dame needs to understand is Giannis is Giannis every night. The offense shouldn't be Giannis and Dame, it should be Giannis and Dame accepts his role as a supporting team member. Dame can still have his nights, have runs, and have his moments, but let it happen, don't look for it. The Bucks won because it was Giannis and everybody else, and Dame needs to be an everybody else. He should have spent the summer watching film, seeing how Bledsoe, and Holiday played with Giannis and to do those things and take that approach. He don't want to win. The Bucks won consistently for 5 seasons because Giannis is the most consistent player in the league. He's 25 to 50, 10 to 15 and 5 to 10, every night. Still the best player in the league. Nobody would join MJ and think they're going 50/50 on offense. Giannis is the team and Dame needs to work towards that. Giannis doesn't go 1 for 12 4 points, 2 rebounds 6 assists on 30 plus minutes.
Doc rivers and darvin ham together what did they expect. Should’ve never fired bud and kept holiday. But part of this is also Giannis fault superstars often overreact to loses leading to their organization to make drastic moves to keep them happy that ultimately hurt in the long run.
The day they traded for dame was when it was time to worry. They were a defensive team and you brought in THAT at the point of attack. It was a joke and reeked of desperation then and is worse now
Dame has clearly lost a step and his up and down shooting is magnified now that he is on a team with expectations. This is kinda who he has always been. Giannis still can't shoot. The defense has lot their identity since they lost Jrue and all their role/bench guys are not very good.
Is a team owner or front office or whoever that is responsible for hiring coaches ever in NBA history admitted that they were wrong about a certain coach? to the public I mean.
Hope bucks fans realize this It’s was all a mirage The hype The expectations Your supposed Greek god was supposed to turn this team into something that is feared when in reality, ain’t nobody losing sleep over this team And him being in all of these lofty positions that all of y’all put him in is truly showing to be complete and utter nonsense kind of like the all of the other wannabe dynasty teams
Whats the deal wit ham n prince. How they always on the same squad, especially after he called prince the kris middleton of the lakers, shit starting to look weird
Ironically, if you trade Dame for James Harden and fire Doc then Bucks get much better. Zubac is playing like Tim Duncan right now. Claxton, MVP Embiid, every big has looked great alongside Harden.
I don’t agree that the Jrue trade ot the Bud stacking were bad. At the time it was required and obvious. The issues are, a lack of depth, Middleton falling of a cliff and not having a lockdown two guard
That trade will go down in history of one of the worst trades ever. Even if Bucks needed to make changes it should have been trading Middleton. Also get something better than Lillard. Lillard was always just your average stat-padder in bad/mediocre team. His play-style was never about winning. He is essentially a premium version of players like Kevin Martin and Rudy Gay.
@@conanmccurry3392 Mann & Powell should be enough to replace Giannis' scoring and Zubac can grab the rebounds. If anything it's a steal for Milwaukee in all honesty, they get a young starter in Mann, veteran leadership, one of the best Centers in L.A. and Norman Powell
Bucks are running out of time if they continue on like this boys only a matter is time before Giannis asks out via trade. Honestly that’s probably what they need right now they can’t play defense and some of their best players are in their mid 30s and Giannis is starting the back end of his prime He going to eventually see that this team is no where close to being a championship level team and it’s worse because Doc Rivers is doing an awful job coaching this team
Jrue is one of the best perimeter defenders of his generation. Dame is willing to hustle, but that's about it. Giving up Jrue has completely destroyed their defensive identity. Jrue also didn't need the ball in his hands on offense all the time. Dame is ball dominant which creates problems with Giannis who also benefits from a high usage rate. It's simply a bad fit.
@ true but that’s like “pride before the fall” for the bucks players. Last year that roster constructively wasn’t a good defensive team so Adrian made them a really good offensive team. They’re not looking good with doc rivers than with Adrian Griffin
@tommartyn524 the thunder would have to give up so much of their title prospects that it wouldn't move the needle like you think. Plus, the Thunder are already contenders so making that move is really a sidestep. Plus Giannis wouldn't really want to play there which makes it a net loss.
Giannis one of the most overrated sportist ever. He had luck in 2021 because the Denver was injury and almost all teams were injured He is so bad in clutch Terrible 3 pts Terrible free throws Very average bb iq Atrocity midrange Overrated defender He doesnt makes other better
its 60 degrees in november
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guessing your from east coast. 60 in November is a regular California fall day.
Firing Coach Bud was a massive blunder. Imagine firing a guy who still went to work even after the death of his brother, sad.
Not to mention losing Jrue left a massive hole in there defense.
Bucks should've never fire coach Bud along with trading Jrue Holiday
It is sad for sure, but it had more to do with it than that. Bud had already been on the hot seat in 21’ prior to them winning the chip, and certainly would’ve been fired if they had lost to the nets. I do wish bud had had a season with Lillard there, as I think things could’ve been different, but the window with players of this age is so small they had to make a change.
I agree with you it’s a bad firing but the brother death means nothing. It’s a business at the end of the day.
@@jacobdonnelly27 Jrue got eaten up by Jimmy against the heat in 23 and also shot terribly from 3 that series. His only postseason run with them that can be considered “good” was 21’
I hate doc rivers
Who doesn't
@@mattjones6323austin rivers
hope so at least @@thatfatguy7591
Bucks need to make some trades
@@LeadHandMedia They have no assets left. They only can trade Giannis and go into a rebuild. Nobody wants Middleton, Lopez or Dame. The best they could do at the deadline is swap out some role players. But that won't move the needle.
How does Doc Rivers keep getting jobs
Because in business people only care about reputation and word of mouth
He’s the devil they know. The NBA is really cautious about new faces in the head coach position, probably to the detriment of a lot of teams.
08 championship, tenure in the league, knowing how to say the right things for interviews especially for a team desperate for a new head coach.
Doc should be the coach of like the pistons or in other words a bad team who's floor he can raise, that's what he's been good at. He doesn't know how to make the most out of superstar players.
The bucks are completely lost and listless on defense. They're getting killed on hustle stats. Dame and Giannis, they're just relying on sheer talent rather than anything to get them to gel together on plays and make the most out of each of their talents. Doc can't do big, high expectation teams.
You know how players somehow keep fucking the same 6 or 7 women ? Teams keep hiring the same 6 or 7 coaches.
The NBA is the World ambassador when it comes to recycling shit.
I never understood why they traded Jrue. That was the downfall of the Bucks
jrue and a few smaller pieces are better than Dame but hindsight is a bitch
That and firing coach bud. This definitely stents from losing to Miami in 2023
Would've been better if we could ever find a solid sg
DLillard has never been a good defender and now that hes lost a step or 2 teams are just going straight at him. He is the target on offense and it doesnt help they also have gary “no defense” trent jr who also is no help to dame. It is a very unfortunate situation on defense because its a 3v5/ 2v5 since their defense is so poor. It also doesnt help that they have doc rivers and darvin ham that are completely over their heads with this one.
also my perspective from a rockets fan who regularly keeps up with the NBA not a bucks fan
Sure. But that’s far from their biggest issue. Against the grizzlies Dame was ragged. Otherwise, his defense has been above par (for his standard).
As a blazers fan I am going to kill myself.
@@holdencooper5558 id much rather be in limbo with young talent than watch a team with aging vets thatll end up middle of the eastern conference
If you're the Bucks, what can you do though? NOLA owns their picks from 25-27 and Portland owns their picks from 28-30. Yikes.
Damn
Trade Giannis for 3-4 picks back and some young players. Don't let it end up like PG and Kawhi where clippers will get nothing back
@@hoboIoveokc got all the picks
Only chance they have is trading the house but we all know they aren't trading Gianni's unless he requests a trade
Why do the nets have their picks
Seen this shit happen too many time. Nets trading for harden suns getting Beal. Teams keep getting rid of their core chasing the new shinny player
Especially bad when they trade for players past their prime who are still valued by their peak
That's what got the Celtics over the hump though
@ really wasn’t it after they got rid of kyrie and Hayward that they really started winning. I wouldn’t consider jrue and porzingis chasing the big shiny names
True dat
For every case of it not working there are cases of it working out, Donovan Mitchell to the Cavs, Kyrie to the Mavs, Gobert to the Timberwolves, all of those teams are competitors because of those trades.
It can work, it's just when it fails, it really fails.
love how all that "nuggets washed" talk quickly shifted towards the bucks (who've been in the post-chip hangover longer than Denver btw)
Very similar spot. Giannis And Jokic both have one ring and haven't been back to the finals since winning.
@@willemdaho3 Denver was up 20 in an elimination game and blew it. Almost certainly would’ve beaten the Mavs and would’ve been 50/50 to beat Boston. Bucks haven’t been in a position to get back nearly as much since then
“Quickly shifted” yea no, it’s not good that all need a Jokic masterclass to win in OT, both these teams are washed rn
@@johnathoncuratolo4573They would not have beaten tbe Mavs. They couldn't even hold a 20 point lead against the team the Mavs handled easily. Cope however you need to.
@ I’m not a fan of either team bruh I do not care 😂 it’s almost like matchups matter and while the Mavs can well enough guard Ant and Kat who are jacking up 3s, Jokic would’ve averaged 40 15 and 10 against them.
As a bucks fan since I was 6 in 2005 (Australian hopped on board with bogut) this is probably the worst time since I supported them. At least when they were bad it was exciting to see them do well- but the experience of seeing them have 2 mvp caliber players but play soulless, no chemistry basketball and playing well under expectations is so much worse than when they just had a bad team for ages. 2015 playoffs were one of my favourites because they came off a 15-67 season and managed to have a bounce back 41-41 year and took a good bulls team to 6 where it kindve looked like maybe they could make a run at a 3-0 comeback. Gimme that year over this shitshow any day- yeah they’ll probably finish in the mid to high 40s in wins but they should be so much better
If they lose next 2 games against the Cavs all hope will be lost. I bet they will blow out the undefeated cavs tomorrow.
dame and giannis clearly disliking each other is some of the funniest shit I’ve ever seen
elaborate? (not being sarcastic)
What happened with them im lost
Honestly they should have just let him go to Miami. You have to account for chemistry in trades like that, they are both really different guys culturally and I know they are trying to make it work.
Has there been any real indication of this?
Speak about real evidence of this or go away
Time for darvin ham to head coach
🤣🤣🤣
All I heard from Bucks fans this off-season:
"Dame & Giannis weren't healthy!"
"Doc actually started winning near the end of the yr, Adrian Griffins 30-13 doesn't count, he won against bad teams."
"Dame's offense this season being healthy will be the difference!" 😂😂🤣😂
It’s always excuses and goalposts moving
Dame just wanted to be a Miami Heat with his friend Bam! That sucks for him.
Should have stayed "loyal" 😂
Pour hundred millionaire he only gets generational money and not fan brownie points 😭😭😭
Bam must be Dame's NBA boo. Dame playing for the Heat would be comedy every game😂😂😂
@@geordiejones5618 ur weird
@@JW-1089 ur weird
Dame and Giannis can't play together. Giannis sucks at setting picks and doesn't move well without the ball. Dame clearly is on the way down, his shot has become very inconsistent, he's also doesn't look as crisp on drives like he used to. So their offense boils down to them taking turns with some random 3s by the others.
Their defense... sucks. Ja exposed them yesterday. Brook isn't fast enough anymore. Giannis will always be a plus defender, but he's not a rim protector. Playing drop requires elite perimeter defense. So unless Middleton somehow returns and stays on the court, they're cooked.
I think dame and giannis can match, I just don’t understand how there hasn’t been any progress or improvement with them matching. Like idk if it’s coaches holding them back or stubbornness from one or the other but like fuck man work it out, change how you play and I promise you it’ll be for the best.
Giannis sucks at setting screens if he can get that down I think there will be some immediate improvement, he just needs to work on that.
@@xtravagancy7023 Let's be realistic: Giannis turns 30 soon. He won't turn into a different player, just look at his FT shooting. He is who he is, and honestly, that's totally ok. Some of the issues definitely are related to coaching. I know, Bud sucked at making adjustments during the playoffs. But he also built this team from scratch and led them to a title. Since they've fired him, they kinda lost their identity.
@ I think something like setting a screen more effectively can be learned. Look at Brook Lopez, he was known as a paint player and defender now he’s evolved into a deep shooter (hasn’t seemed like it this year but) around the same age as giannis if not even a few years later. Same thing with a superstar duo like Shaq and Kobe, Shaq was the man in Orlando, paired up with Kobe and changed how he played to more effectively use their duality and look what it led to. Players can absolutely change but I do agree that firing Bud and resorting to inferior coaches is the root of the problem and was the start of what we see now.
Raptors won the GTJ trade.
Giannis passive-aggressively requesting a trade after he got what he wanted the last time he explicitly requested a trade (a susperstar to prove the Bucks were serious about winning another championship).
Player empowerment. When you let the players run the front office and pick the coach this is what happens.
Let the players play, coaches coach, and GM's GM.
Yep should've gotten Nurse anyway despite Giannis not endorsing him.
Yes and no. Because the reason the players have this much power is because for decades countless all time greats or even just great players spent prime years with an organization that wants to be cheap and don’t want to win. There needs to be a balance
But players choosing their coach is not a new thing, Magic Johnson was the big decider in firing Paul Westhead and that move ended up being the right one.
As a Suns fan this feels so vindictive: Bucks fired their one of their top assets and now he is back at home in Arizona.
I looked at the box score. How does your leader perform so well the entire game and no one help him out even a little bit
Giannis does this a lot. Putting pressure on the front office to make a move. Getting Dame made sense but firing Adrian Griffin and hiring Doc Rivers was the worst decision the front office could have ever made.
you’re always sick brother 🙏🏾❤️
NBA rotates coaches like the players rotate girls
Dame hasn't been the same since his Ab injury 2 seasons ago. I know he had surgery to repair that abdominal muscle that put him in a shooting slump but ever since then he's fallen off from being a clear top 3 PG in the league. Sad to see. 😢
Bro he bounced back and had the best season of his career and averaged 30ppg before getting traded to the bucks. Hes just getting older and he’s a smaller guard that relied on athleticism. It’s a tale as old as time. Stop spewing nonsense 😂
@@SantiagoSanchez-hb4js ur slow
He was never THAT good. He was empty stats on bad teams as a heliocentric shotchucker that relies on awful officiating to get half his points. He couldn't defend ME and he's not a great floor general either.
@@SantiagoSanchez-hb4js Getting older doesn't affect shooting ability tho, if anything shooters normally age like fine wine in the NBA since that's pretty much all they can do when they're out of their prime and lose the athleticism. Klay and Dame are the only snipers i've ever seen in the NBA get worse with age and it's hard to believe that two top 5 shooters in history just all of a sudden become bad shooters late in their careers where it's supposed to be at it's most polished. It has to be some nagging injury or post-surgical pain, scar tissue, it's gotta be something besides just flat out being washed.
@@ou8428 Empty stats on a bad team 🤣 go rewarch those series' he was having against superior teams where he solo carried the Blazers to deep playoff runs no other PG in the league could've gotten them to
What Dame needs to understand is Giannis is Giannis every night. The offense shouldn't be Giannis and Dame, it should be Giannis and Dame accepts his role as a supporting team member. Dame can still have his nights, have runs, and have his moments, but let it happen, don't look for it. The Bucks won because it was Giannis and everybody else, and Dame needs to be an everybody else. He should have spent the summer watching film, seeing how Bledsoe, and Holiday played with Giannis and to do those things and take that approach. He don't want to win. The Bucks won consistently for 5 seasons because Giannis is the most consistent player in the league. He's 25 to 50, 10 to 15 and 5 to 10, every night. Still the best player in the league. Nobody would join MJ and think they're going 50/50 on offense. Giannis is the team and Dame needs to work towards that. Giannis doesn't go 1 for 12 4 points, 2 rebounds 6 assists on 30 plus minutes.
It might be time for Giannis to play center full time.
Giannis needs to get out of there
This is idiotic. Any situation he goes to AFTER losing all the pieces they’d have to give up for him would be considerably worse.
Yup, unless he actually gets a midrange his offensive peak is closing fairly quickly as well.
Maaan stop trying to turn Giannis into KD bro.
Giannis brought this on himself. He's calling the shots now
You are the worst type of nba fans. Always wanting players to move to make super teams.
The doc rivers effect
who would have thought hiring doc and then trading your best defender for a shot chucker would have ended badly?
You and amhoops posting the same thumbnail is funny
Doc rivers and darvin ham together what did they expect. Should’ve never fired bud and kept holiday. But part of this is also Giannis fault superstars often overreact to loses leading to their organization to make drastic moves to keep them happy that ultimately hurt in the long run.
I was worried about the Bucks when they traded for Lillard.
Giannis and the GM are the ones to blame for this.
A team who can literally run a warriors like offense with a super Draymond but runs isos and leaves Giannis in the dunker spot
Trading jrue and firing bud was a huge mistake
The day they traded for dame was when it was time to worry. They were a defensive team and you brought in THAT at the point of attack. It was a joke and reeked of desperation then and is worse now
They’re finished. Doc as a coach and Khris Middleton in 2024
TRADE
BUCKS GET: Herro - Tre Jones - Josh Richardson - Thomas Bryant
HEAT GET: Lillard - Keldon Johnson - Harrison Barnes
SPURS GET: Butler - Alec Burks
Doc Rivers is an absolutely terrible coach and how is Darvin Ham allowed to even be an assistant after his Lakers tenure
Coaches who fail as head coaches go back to being assistants all the time. Or college if that's were they came from.
So when are we getting a rockets video GOAT
All they had to do was keep BUD.
Milwaukee fans you got a chip and that aint bad
And they added Ham lmao they actually trying not to win
Just like everybody else.
Dame has clearly lost a step and his up and down shooting is magnified now that he is on a team with expectations. This is kinda who he has always been. Giannis still can't shoot. The defense has lot their identity since they lost Jrue and all their role/bench guys are not very good.
Is a team owner or front office or whoever that is responsible for hiring coaches ever in NBA history admitted that they were wrong about a certain coach? to the public I mean.
Dame is poor man's steph, there i said it
No bro trust me bro Adrian griffin was horrible bro trust me real bad bro needed to fire him doc has experience
If Embiid is hurt for the playoffs again, I would entertain a Giannis for Joel conversation
The bucks wouldn’t 😭
Please stop
The Bucks don’t want that injury prone loser
Hope bucks fans realize this
It’s was all a mirage
The hype
The expectations
Your supposed Greek god was supposed to turn this team into something that is feared when in reality, ain’t nobody losing sleep over this team
And him being in all of these lofty positions that all of y’all put him in is truly showing to be complete and utter nonsense kind of like the all of the other wannabe dynasty teams
Whats the deal wit ham n prince. How they always on the same squad, especially after he called prince the kris middleton of the lakers, shit starting to look weird
Giannis trade?
Who will Doc Rivers throw under the bus next?
Ironically, if you trade Dame for James Harden and fire Doc then Bucks get much better. Zubac is playing like Tim Duncan right now. Claxton, MVP Embiid, every big has looked great alongside Harden.
They’re just not a good team
I don’t agree that the Jrue trade ot the Bud stacking were bad. At the time it was required and obvious.
The issues are, a lack of depth, Middleton falling of a cliff and not having a lockdown two guard
That trade will go down in history of one of the worst trades ever. Even if Bucks needed to make changes it should have been trading Middleton. Also get something better than Lillard. Lillard was always just your average stat-padder in bad/mediocre team. His play-style was never about winning. He is essentially a premium version of players like Kevin Martin and Rudy Gay.
@ the trade was fine, it just ended with boston which was the worst case scenario
Giving away Jrue Holiday was lunacy. He is literally what every winning team wants in a guard.
The Bucks have done everything Giannis has wished and it got them here
Hello
Karma
Doc Rivera and Darvin Ham is an all time awful coaching duo
Should’ve kept Budenholzer and NEVER traded for Dame
Does 1-4 matter that much tho? All due respect. They'll beat the pistons tonight.
To start the season, yes. Wouldn’t put it past Doc to lose to the Pistons
@IK-yb5rn I'm a pistons fan lol. Funky was right with the bud firing. But I believe the bucks can bounce back.
nah the bucks are fine with the two goats of coaching
1 dame washed
2 doc rivers
Bucks cooked 😢 Dame trash 🗑️ wouldn’t be surprised Greek freak is gone but will be hard for our eyes to see him with a different jersey
GET DOC RIVERS OUT OF THE LEAGUE‼️
Glen Rivers & Lame Dolla are a disgrace
Trade Giannis for Mann, Powell, PJ Tucker, and Zubac
😂😂😂😂
Yeah, sure.. And 50 first round picks from like 10 teams.
U must be a clippers fan
@@conanmccurry3392 Mann & Powell should be enough to replace Giannis' scoring and Zubac can grab the rebounds. If anything it's a steal for Milwaukee in all honesty, they get a young starter in Mann, veteran leadership, one of the best Centers in L.A. and Norman Powell
@@ishand.7728 the delusion is actually crazy 💀
Giannis to the warriors sounds about right lol 🤣
I seriously hope so. That's probably the best way this saga could end tbh.
Would love to see him on the Warriors or OKC, if they trade him.
Bucks are running out of time if they continue on like this boys only a matter is time before Giannis asks out via trade.
Honestly that’s probably what they need right now they can’t play defense and some of their best players are in their mid 30s and Giannis is starting the back end of his prime
He going to eventually see that this team is no where close to being a championship level team and it’s worse because Doc Rivers is doing an awful job coaching this team
Or Giannis for Paul George
Lol never
Hot take, and I said this as the trade was being finalized: Jrue is better than Dame. And way better for the Bucks’ roster construction.
Right now yeah he’s better. Not even really a hot take as for who’s the better fit coz Bucks essentially have no perimeter defence
Jrue is one of the best perimeter defenders of his generation. Dame is willing to hustle, but that's about it. Giving up Jrue has completely destroyed their defensive identity. Jrue also didn't need the ball in his hands on offense all the time. Dame is ball dominant which creates problems with Giannis who also benefits from a high usage rate. It's simply a bad fit.
“If i sound a little weird its cause im sick” you always sound weird you sound like your trying to make your voice sound deeper
I’m still trying to understand why they fired Adrian Griffin when he was on a 30-13 record and hire Doc rivers
Lost the locker room. There's no way they fired him less than a year into his tenure without the players wanting him gone.
@ true but that’s like “pride before the fall” for the bucks players. Last year that roster constructively wasn’t a good defensive team so Adrian made them a really good offensive team. They’re not looking good with doc rivers than with Adrian Griffin
I hope Giannis goes to Golden State. Seriously, nothing would make me happier. He deserves it, the league deserves it, Steph deserves it.
He should go to the thunder. Instant title favorites
@tommartyn524 the thunder would have to give up so much of their title prospects that it wouldn't move the needle like you think. Plus, the Thunder are already contenders so making that move is really a sidestep. Plus Giannis wouldn't really want to play there which makes it a net loss.
@ you’re making a lot of assumptions. What makes you think Gianni’s wouldn’t want to play there. It’s not like the bucks are a big market
Y’all bandwagon golden state fans are the worst
@@tommartyn524 according to every report about giannis wanting a trade, OKC has never been a point of interest.
Giannis one of the most overrated sportist ever. He had luck in 2021 because the Denver was injury and almost all teams were injured
He is so bad in clutch
Terrible 3 pts
Terrible free throws
Very average bb iq
Atrocity midrange
Overrated defender
He doesnt makes other better
Facts
The doc rivers effect