I think with the delay between interview and publication it might be that he got the feedback from the musk interview for example. JP is a man that can still learn and improve - after all the fame, thats great to see! Hope i can still do that when im old ❤
Dr. Peterson has always taken peoples criticisms to heart I believe. He said that '12 Rules' didn't come from making commandments but rather giving succinct answers that people proved to respond to when he wrote articles in the 90s. 🙏
And I bet it takes a lot of effort. Although he knows how to listen better than most, you tell he has a lot to say and wants to get out. I think it depends on the guest too. This topic is new to a.lot of people so you're not going assume what she's going to say next.
Great interview. Very happy she left satanism. I would like to point out something regarding Tantric Buddhism, based on 14 years of immersive practice, before being pulled to Christ a year ago. Buddhism is a very common path to fall into when one is dissatisfied with Abrahamic religion, as I was. My dissatisfaction was based on a very surface level understanding and falling for anti Christian propaganda. In my experience of practicing hard, meditating 2 hours a day, reading texts for another hour a day, going on retreats, receiving teachings from famous Tibetan teachers, I got good at visualizing, sitting still for long periods, quieting my mind and controlling my emotions better. What I did not get was an “enlightenment experience” or any amazing revelations or sudden transformation. I never met anyone, including these high level teachers, who claimed to either. What Zeena said about compassion being the centerpiece of all the practices is true, however it’s very abstract. The main thrust is to become enlightened so you can bring others to enlightenment. What I found to be very unsatisfying and unnerving was the level of dedication one must have to one’s teacher or teachers, literally offering prostrations to them, and being taught over and over to see them as an enlightened Buddha, ignoring anything in their behavior that contradicts this. Another observation of westerners who practice Tibetan Buddhism is the disrespect for Abrahamic religions, especially Christianity. In addition to that, almost everyone (everyone I knew) had the same political beliefs, which fall to the left. Conservatives, like Christians, were clearly not respected. Once I answered the pull of Christ, which came out of nowhere, I found that I was greatly misinformed and under informed of the incredibly deep and profound truths found in the Christian traditions. Within weeks of feeling that strange pull to Christianity, I accepted Christ and my life has changed dramatically for the better. My marriage is better, my friendships are better, my health is better, my self discipline is better. In a few weeks, my life changed more than in 14 years of “practice”. I thank Jordan Peterson for part of my waking up to the depth of what I used to think of as a silly collection of myths. Just to be clear, my transformation came when I repented, thanked Christ for his sacrifice, admitted out loud that I need Him in my life and asked for the grace of faith.
Incredible testimony! I am also a Christian Theist, but I've always seen the immense value in meditation. Do you still practice it today as a Christian?
Damn, as a former CoS member and LeVayen Satanist It's crazy seeing an appearance by Zeena.. JBP is the reason I stepped away from the Occult almost 8yrs ago. It's a long difficult road back to God, but I'm headed down the path the best I can.
I was born into a generational occult family and just read an AMAZING book called “You Are Mine” by Sister Anastasia. She was both a Tibetan Buddhist and a witch, and it’s about her path out
Christ can be incorporated into any witches pagan pantheon. It's not juxtaposed, though many people tend to think so. You find Christian mysticism in much occultism.
Zeena strikes me as a soft spoken intelligent woman who found her path. She is a Buddhist which is her choice of religion: not everyone chooses Christ. And if you don’t you shouldn’t be ostracized. Religion is a choice for everyone as long as you harm no one. We all have a right to our own beliefs
I will tell you that there’s a difference between following a religion and having a personal relationship with Jesus. I don’t think there’s any ostracizing here; trust me, when The Lord grabs a hold of you…you won’t ever want to go back to life before knowing Him
@@MsTaebogirl amen. I am going to non stop pray for Zeena, until she has a: The Good Lord Jesus, encounter and indeed, never looks back...and is completely healed of her past in the perfect name of Jesus Christ ✝️🕊✝️.
God does not like religion. You're either his child and have a personal relationship with him or you don't. Remember Heaven is his kingdom. It is for his family.
When I was an atheist and young man, I read Anton Zander LaVey’s Satanic Bible, which purported to be the opposite of Christianity, and it made sense to me. Then I read part 2, which was Satanic Rituals and I realized it was sick & problematic. I never believed in Satan until I became a Messianic Jew/Biblical Christian. A mentor told me Satan’s greatest deception was to make people believe he didn’t exist. After serious reflection and ‘Coming To Believe’; I realized she was right. Praise Jesus Christ, Lord & Savior of the world.
I pray she comes clean about how her dad rly died... And the 6 yrs of torture her sister endured. And the demonic evil she went thru in the 7th and final yr of completing the ritual of attempting to impregnate her by being raped by the devil himself in the hopes of the anti christ being born and what she had to endure to get away of it all. She knows what really happened. I hope she doesn't lie about anything.
About 20 years back, I met her older sister, Karla at a church of Satan event. I wasn't a Satanist per se, but had an interest in the Occult. Anyways, she was very friendly and intelligent, and we had a great conversation. I've since returned to Christianity, and sincerely hope she gets saved, along with every other Satanist. I pray for their salvation.
Yes, I agree. This was sad to listen to . The poor woman sounded like she’s still deluded with claims that “religion” and “ Abrahamic beliefs” were the problem with her Father. “Abrahamic religious people “ include all Christians which, apparently, she sees as being just as bad as her Father ?? This was hard to listen to.
@@EvonRomano-ge2ogfrom what I'm hearing, early in interview, I agree. My first impression of her was uncomfortable. She has a darkness yet to her. Deliverance would help her greatly I believe. As it did me.
It's quite clear she's still struggling with much of this. I hope she comes to understand true Christianity and the unmatched love, acceptance, and freedom found there. 🙏
Americanized versions of Buddhism and Hinduism are just alternate ways to attack Christianity. She literally blamed “Abrahamic religion “ for her father’s narcissistic behavior and then went on to explain that Christians are part of the “abrahamic religion “ but that she is above all that……very sad. Very dark
This made me cry… this woman is so loved…. ✝️ I hope she will get to experience Christs real love for her. Buddhism helped me in life.. but it wasn’t until I experienced Christ’s love that everything finally made sense. I’ll be offering prayers up for her.. let’s storm heaven for her guys.. ❤
@hedonismbot3274 sincerely ask and pray for Jesus to show himself to you and to ask him to come into your heart and life. It sounds a little funny but please try it your life will be transformed. God Bless you and never forget Jesus loves you and has a plan for your life.
This was an unbelievably good episode! Peterson really flexed his listening ears, and gave Zeena a chance to unpack her thoughts while gently drawing parallels to Christian theology.
@@GirlWithnail I've never seen Peterson so quiet before lol the look on his face was great too, he was so deeply engaged with what she was saying, like a proper therapy session 😆
As a Christian this discussion was very informative and important. Mrs LaVey and everyone that is in the occult take their religion seriously and as Christian we should too .We are not fighting against flesh and blood. Wake up Christians stop sleeping (Matthew 26:36-46) thank you Jordan for this conversation 🙏🏾👍🏾
oh nvm 50 others feel the same way, ah that's how the pastor got you all to abide by his commands, you don't want to be the odd man out I understand, ok you're accepted in the group , the group that you randomly region specific was born
"Oh, I see you're the only one who thinks differently, and that's what makes you special. The pastor's commands are irrelevant, and you're not afraid to stand out from the crowd. You don't need to be accepted by the group, and you're not bound by regional specifics. You're a free thinker, and your uniqueness is what makes you valuable."
Of course there's real authentic Christians on the Earth because God's grace is real and authentic and h He's left a remnant. Just read the comments in the chat and see how Jesus has restored so many people's lives. Praise God! That's what he does! He restores and He renews, among other things. There is no one that is out of his reach.
Fascinating lady. My sister and I were born in the 60's to preoccupied, driven, hedonistic parents who abandoned their parental obligations in order to further their respective careers and also chase their rampant sex lives. It's interesting to hear her take on that period of time in society and to hear how she began to recognize toxic patterns of behavior. Great interview!
I was born 1965, i know how you feel, my parents fled their religious parents and community, to pursue their own hedonistic, hippy lifestyle in another part of the country far away from view. I have spent most of my life trying to fix and correct myself from the terrible habits, values and ideals that i was exposed to. Mr. Peterson has been my personal enlightenment and probably savior. I have matured and am coming back to the lord every day. my deepest thanks Mr. Peterson
I pray 🙏🙏🙏 you can forgive your parents... I also had a crazy up bring ling and my real dad done inappropriate. Things to me and it was a while before I forgave them both... It wasn't me allow to forgive I kept 🙏 and I felt a hot bucket of what felt like warm oil run down my head to my toes and it was forgiveness after this incident happened it was gone. I felt love again for him... I hope this helps you
@@user-su5db5mb7x oh I and my sister have forgiven them, both are in perfect health and will each probably live to be 98 years old. They will probably outlive both me and my sister at this rate. We are respectful and cordial to them but it's not easy to forget the 10,000 times they could have done the right thing but didn't. Most of what people deem evil is just selfishness and an "eff you" given to the basic rules of humanity. There are levels of it, from the terrible parent all the way down to the serial killer. But selfishness is at the root of all of it.
@@duderinoification ouch, why the hatred of comparison? I find it best to simply relate and pray for others that can relate ! I am so grateful I was spared as I too was born in the 80s however my parents were born in the 40's - so me and my 7 older siblings were spared and really we were protected because my parents found it beyond obvious the idiocrasy that took over in the 60's and 70's. I pray your heart heals and that you have found the light.
When I went through my agnostic phase in younger years I remembering researching what satanism was really about, and of course I came across Zeena, so it’s definitely great to see her now talking about all of that so we can absolutely have more understanding, and how who the man was behind all of it and her experience. Today I am a believer in Christ, we can always learn from everything.
I pray Zeena will be protected and blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ Coming out of this darkness and what it represents takes a lot of courage and boldness
Perhaps we should pray to Our God Lord Jesus that she comes to repentance and Salvation through the Only Savior. She cannot receive His Protection until she submits to Him. It is the same for everyone.
She's Buddhist which is way older than Christianity. Please respect her philosophy. One could argue that Jesus was Buddhist. Christians should really study philosophy and other religions before bashing someone else's. You'll find there are many similarities.
I can’t describe the pain I felt listening to her and hearing what she has been through. I had a crazy childhood myself and very disturbing relationship with my dad. I understand her desire to go towards Buddhism. I just pray she looks into Jesus. I so want to send her my love and pray for her healing.
@@A1trizzy I thank God I wasn’t brought up by the head of the satanic church being taught since I could understand words that this was their god. I can’t imagine a child seeing the wicked things she saw and the coldness of what her father called love. I pray God opens her eyes and she sees the Truth.
She having hard time talking complete thoughts n wanders off topic in choppy kind of way. 60s alot of drugs Hard to believe her father not doping while writing for Satans evil to destroy the Holy before their time so evil lives longer.
@A1trizzy she didn't run to the devil, bro 😂 she was raised in a Satanic household, very different. And she eventually broke free from the toxic family that taught her that.
It breaks my heart to hear how much the Church of Satan has caused her to hold disdain for all “Abrahamic Religions” including Christianity. When God commanded us to love our enemies, that includes those that are lost, even those practicing Satanism or esotericism. Christians should NEVER threaten the lives of ANYONE regardless how twisted their worldview may be. Truth without Love is mean. Love without Truth is meaningless.
You make a valid point albeit I see many self righteous people even in this comments section praising the Lord etc, many of which probably proclaim to follow Jesus's teaching but are intolerant towards others religions, atheists etc or simply those who hold another world view. I grew up in a very toxic Christian household where emotional abuse was committed in the name of Jesus & saw irreligious children who had a wholesome upbringing. Toxicity is not confined to irreligious sects alone 😊
@@divine.defined.sthetics9876Who said Christians aren’t allowed to judge? Then how does a Christian discern sin-if they are not allowed to judge? If you’re talking about Matthew 7:1 then you need context and include all of Matthew chapter 7 where Jesus goes on to talk about being a hypocrite. Don’t take the sawdust out of your brother’s eye without first taking the plank out of your own eye. Many people throw out Matthew 7:1 as a “gotcha” scripture without putting it into context. It is absolutely okay for a Christian to condemn the behavior of another Christian that uses violence to destroy their enemies. That’s why in Matthew 18 Jesus gives instruction about how to kick an evildoer out of the church (which takes judgment and action). I would argue that the baseball bat offenders were not “Christians” in the first place because that’s not what Christ teaches.
And now she worships another false satanic god (buddha) she is reaping up Gods anger and she does need prayer cause she knows Jesus is real and still after everything she has seen rejects God. 🤔
To me scripture were created by philosophers who anthropomorphised a spiritual realm so humans of those times could relate to their literature of 'good', offering hope and codes of ethics to live by. They need nurturing as where the 'good' fades evil will replace it. Pray for world peace as war is being planned
I pay to my Father in heaven , the king of kings and Lord of lords , in the name of Jesus Christ , my saviour , that Zeena is touched by God and set free from the deception of any fouls religions . Amen
In agreement with your prayer. Only Christ can save. Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
Hi from El Paso, TX, where Richard Ramirez was born, btw. Just wanted to tell Zeena that it hurts to hear that she was mistreated by supposed Christians. Believe me, that's not a true believers heart! Praying for you for a real encounter w Jesus. He is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. Mankind will always fail and disappoint, but Jesus never will! ❤
Praise God brother or sister in Christ!!! I am so happy (and smiled so big when reading your comment)that you are saved and welted Jesus as your Savior!! God bless you!!
Jordan saying her mother sacrificed Her is right on the mark. Her family dynamic is unbelievably similar to mine. My mother Also did not know her father who also was a stumbling alcoholic on the streets. I definitely was raised in a web of lies which I was constantly trying to decipher and punished sometimes for asking questions as young as 7 years old.
Many of us who had very hard childhoods,,,are very strong people today, I can certainly say this, and I pray you can also. Thank you for sharing your story, I send you blessings of love
Thank you for posting this. Zeena is on quite a journey of faith. So glad for her that she escaped the trauma that almost took her life. This was very enlightening. I wish her well. May this journey lead her to a profound relationship with Jesus Christ. ❤❤❤
So, beautifully said. And I completely agree with you. Zeena's destiny is in Heaven with The God of our universe and His perfect Son,, Who paid the price for all of us to get to live in bliss, eternally. ✝️🕊
I remember an old interview of hers before I really committed to Christ and she had said that there are not as many Christians in the world as we think. I was too young to understand what she meant but I get it now. With the gospel being as watered as it is there really are not as many as we think.
This is a thing. I have a hard time even classifying myself as a christian because there are so many different teachings (40,000+ denominations at this point), most of which claim that the Law of God was nailed to the cross so we don't need it. If we don't have His Law, then we are forced to follow our own or someone else's instead. It's always been significant in my mind that the satanic bible says to do as you will, and that's the entirety of the law. In both the old and new testaments, it says very clearly that those who love Him will keep His commands. Those who hate Him don't. The falling away has been going on for quite some time now..there truly are very few who actually follow Him anymore. It's heartbreaking to witness, and very difficult to live through. People who are to be my brothers and sisters look down on me for keeping the Sabbath and His Feasts..but they will celebrate festivals rooted in paganism as if they were about Jesus, and have trunk or treat on halloween..there's a church in my area teaching yoga and having beer worship nights. I stay in prayer for them all across the earth..may the Truth be spoken and His Light shine over this world of darkness 😞🙌
@@AimeeHope89 Please search for the Orthodox Church, not because I am in it and I want converts but because it sounds like what you are looking for: a church with continuity with the Old and New Testaments, history, which preserves the traditions while remembering the spirit which should accompany them, without innovating like the Catholic Church or becoming rigid like the Pharisees. I am in the Coptic Orthodox Church and my priest observes the Sabbath from Friday to Saturday night. Pray for us because we have problems, but I hope you find what you are looking for.
Ms. Schreck is a talented artist and musician and an unbelievably empathetic woman-I’m glad she’s found a measure of peace and clarity after such an uncanny and gaslit childhood
Zeena is a beautiful woman. I’m Christian faith but I have heard stories from ex Satanists. Zeena has lived a full life and I find it sweet she’s protecting animals too. We can’t help what family we are born into or what our parents do. We can only choose our own path
Yes. With all due respect with Dr. Peterson, I would have appreciated a discussion of what LaVey actually believed- or at least of what Zeena believed Anton actually believed- front loaded into this discussion to properly contextualize what comes afterwards. She describes it as a psuedo-religion, a carnival act, and a high-society cocktail party, which are true but inadequate descriptors. It’s worth noting that membership in fraternal orders and “secret societies” was also common for men of the time, even if all they conspired to do was to go bowling on the weekends (even Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble were members of a secret society!) What I’ve read from Zeena in the past is that she believes _her father believed_ he was merely pantomiming Satanism- he was a LARPer, to use the modern parlance- when in fact he was messing with very real and very dark forces. What this means in the context of Zeena’s present beliefs- and peeling back the onion layers of what was believed to be hokum, what was believed to be real, and what is actually real- would have been the prerequisite discussion for me.
Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life. Without The Way there is no going, without The Truth there is no knowing, without The Life there is no living 🙏🙏🙏
One of the most fascinating conversations I've watched in years. I remember Zeena from many years ago when she was still active in her father's church. I'm so happy to see her liberated and joyful. ♥️♥️♥️
These minion level 'breaking free' satanists who obviosuly still work for the land stealing highest order of satanists(seeds of perdition/war-like, multitrillionaires), will never say 'Creator of all creation and things true Son Tree of life's nature way is how Creator intended His human being children thru His Son way to live and love one another, under His real natural laws of love and kindness, sharing mother earth and all medicine she offers like family does together from good heart-mind connection up to Creator's way only(NOT $$$ false way). How come they don't ever say openly about TREE OF LIFE'S RETURN(Revelation22 the ending) is happening presently????????
Idk what it is exactly about Zeena, but she absolutely exudes intelligence and thoughtfulness in the way she speaks and recounts the history of the religion and her family. Her intellect combined with Dr. Peterson’s makes this a fascinating interview.
I feel like she is saying a lot without communicating much. I wanted to know about some of the stuff she knew as an insider. I learned she is a Buddhist and her parents were narcissists/psychos. Most of the whole interview is her repeating she was branded and cant escape her past. Yawn.
I was extremely disappointed as an analytical guy that she consistently stayed on the edge and Peterson didn't want to push her. I didn't like her aura.
@@UnknownUnknown-tu3be- Exactly. She was saying some kooky things too - at one point even said that her gma didn't divorce her g-father til after he was dead...what?? How do you and why would you - divorce someone if they're dead?? He is controlled opp for the far R puppet masters and few ppl are awake to this. He just let her take over his interview. He had no control and there was real friction and tension here in a talk that should have been a pro interview based on the exchange of Q and A in a dialogue-driven manner. But JP is owned by the idiot slaves who own them at Daily Wire - Conservative INC. Let's not forget these are controlled ppl trying to control a narrative that was really made to do damage control for the church of Satan - to whitewash them and make them not sound so 'evil', so the title was absolute BS click bait. They lazily satisfied the dumbed-down masses who don't do their own research or have any real curiosity. Can't believe how ppl didn't catch how they both referenced the McMartin preschool kids who were raped - and denied it! All b/c Satanists were to blame - and they were the ones who molested the kids! Anyone who researches that case for real knows this fact! But JP almost got sent to a 'deprogramming camp' in Canada for standing up for his freedom of speech, (which he should have done but that is not the point) so he plays along instead as a good lil shill and does what his puppet masters tell him to do online now. Ironically he speaks of LeVey as a circus performer but Peterson plays the role of 'fixer' and 'damage controller' for the elite Satanists who run this world. He performs as their dutiful puppet as he also at the same time, blames them for their narcissism. This way, no one will suspect he is an accomplice of sorts doing their dirty work for them in the media like this. But he too is a kind of narcissist who virtue signals to cover it up. He's very talented at covering up the cover up's! To me, he may as well be in a 're-education camp' as to be this kind of liar! Denying the events of when INNOCENT CHILDREN get raped is worse than denying the Holocaust! This is desperate, dastardly and spineless cowardice beyond belief and beyond acceptance!!!!! Anyone who follows or is a fan of JP after this is either insane or very naive -- or both.
Says who? who TAUGHT you that dumb idea you now repeat like some chatty parrot. What is truth? Please, enlight us, you sure have such profound thoughts. Can'tvwait to read you@@user-bg8cw8sp7w
Sometimes soft spoken person on the surface with sweet Demeanour can be the evil one. And the rough spoken brawlic person is actually the good guy. Don’t fall for surface level nonsense. It’s the content and character that matters. Always judge on actions, not words
Funny, I have watched almost all of his interviews and cannot place any one of them as particularly rude. Maybe some perspectives bristle you, but that is how you and I grow. Keep listening, I'll bet you will grow more if you remain open and seek truth over personal pride.
@@canUfeelMYface they are the literal definition of two very real, very prevalent forces enacting upon us in our daily lives incognito.These aren’t literary abstractions. All of us know the difference instinctively…. Assign any title you wish, but it all comes down to God and Satan What side are you on?
Please don’t judge. Some of us introverts just have that countenance, and it’s hurtful to be imposed upon that we don’t check all the inspection boxes.
For ALL four of you ...we simply do not know at this point. The certainty with which all of you hold your ground is on very shakey ground. The strongest link we have as to what is spiritually relevant on planet earth is near/actual death experiences. The average of ALL of those accounts ever told would be the strongest indicator of who God is , and what is expected of human beings spiritually
Notice the 45 degree angles of Zeena, there's a cross to her right out the window. Call it what you want but God is always with her, nudging her to his light.
I apologize for shattering your illusions, Slave, but Lord Jesus DIED a couple of millennia ago. 🙄 First of all, Mr. Deluded Religionist, there is no TANGIBLE evidence for the claim that Lord Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to some mythical place called “Heaven”. Words in a book can not prove anything that has occurred in the phenomenal sphere. Words, at best, can only prove abstract concepts. 🤓 Secondly, even if He did, in fact, rise after one and a half days, His body was not the same as the one He had at the time of death (assuming what was written in the Gospels is accurate). In fact, it was SO different, that at least some of His closest disciples were unable to recognize Lord Jesus, even after conversing with their master for several hours.🤔 “After this he appeared in ANOTHER form to two of them, as they were walking into the country.” Mark 16:12. And, obviously, a person IS the physical body (plus consciousness). There is absolutely no evidence of such a thing as a “soul” or a “spirit”.
As a person who suffers from PTSD, thank you for sharing your story. It must be so hard to talk about this trauma. We don’t choose our families. They didn’t deserve her. I can’t imagine having to find myself coming from this dark place. Praying for you 🙏
Demons are very deceptive. She doesn’t know she’s still being deceived.. without Jesus your soul will never be at peace regardless of the illusion Buddha has brought her. Rebuke those demons in Jesus name
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? Here you go create another fable, you wanted to Grab a brush and put a little make-up, you wanted to Hide the scars to fade away the shake-up, you wanted to Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to I don't think you trust In my self-righteous suicide I cry when angels deserve to die Wake up (wake up)
Even with Christian denominations each denomination tells each other they’re being deceived to join their club because it’s the truth there’s no winning ever
Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Kinda weird how accepting that 90+% of humanity will burn forever is something that brings you "rest." That burden is only "light" if you are a sociopath. Says something rather unflattering about your character if you are willing to accept such a horrific fantasy just to alleviate a petty existential crisis.
@@somexp12 That verse absolutely does not say that. I would suggest reading that in context for yourself. I am all for healthy debates but knocking down a strawman does no one any favour. What brings rest is Christ, not the acceptance of some idea of hell that you propose. The burden is light because of who is on the other end of the yoke, which is Christ, not because of, again, some conception of hell. You seem to have a distaste for a caricature of Christianity. If you're going to criticise, please do yourselves the dignity of criticising the genuine article.
@@somexp12 I agree with you that this is an evil thing and I DO NOT accept that lie from the devil. Our view of God and His character has been so warped that we are blinded when reading scripture. It’s not until we read the red letters of Jesus that we see love and who our Heavenly Father really is. He loved us since the beginning and His love for us has not changed . We did. Truth will set you free. God only wants to destroy the lies satan makes us believe about him and the old person we were when we believed satans Lies. Sin did not change God. Sin did not change Gods love for us. Sin changed us. Sin changed our belief, faith, love and trust in God. Jesus HEALS our hearts and leads us back to the Father by showing us his Love for us. The red letters in the story of Jesus will show you Our Father and his Love. We have forgotten how to Love because we have forgotten our Heavenly Father. Yet He still Loves us. It’s hard to believe and understand how can He still Loves us despite what we’ve done in our lives but that’s who he is. God is LOVE. We think others need to earn our love, deserve our love…and we think God is the same way, we have to earn/ deserve His Love, but he loved us since the beginning and His Love for us has NOT changed. No amount of Good works will make Him love us more. No amount of bad we HAVE done will make Him Love us LESS. The Good things we do, we do because we Love Him not because we think he will Love us more. 7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 2Co 3:14-16: “But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away”. 1 John 4:18 “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment/punishment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” 2 Timothy 1:7 “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” Hebrews 2:14-15 “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.” Romans 8:14-15 “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.” John 8:12 “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” 1 John 1:5 “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.” Proverbs 4:19 “The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.” Acts 26:18 “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.” 1 John 2:9 “He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.” 2 Corinthians 6:14 “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” Job 10:22 “A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness.” 1 John 1:6 “If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:” Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Paul what are your feelings about this? It feels very odd. In particular her mention early of love for her father, then correcting herself and fear of losing her child, yet very little was said of the child. I get why Jordan wouldn't go there, I assume its again an offspring of her spiritual molestation. But she avoided it entirely. And she still carries the wolf guy's name. (hope you cover the dailywire, won't watch it)
Yeah it’s pretty telling of our nature how quickly the “free love” thing turned into completely being slaves to our lust and we’re still suffering the consequences and probably always will, kind of a Pandora’s box situation
Mcmartin preschool case was legit, on the compassion point if you have more or even as much “compassion” and “love” for a complete stranger as you have for your own blood you’re a pretty shitty brother/father sister/mother, God comes first then family then community then nation in that order, that’s the proper order of things and if you’re putting strangers/foreigners above that order you’re priorities are messed up
I think this is the first time I’ve seen Dr Peterson just have to listen because Zeena knows herself so well. Her understanding of what has made her the woman she is, was so insightful. A truly remarkable individual, and a truly remarkable interview.
Seeing THIS woman, and remembering the girl with HEAVY makeup, oozing pride, confidemce, and defiance, even before she spoke a singke word, broke my heart, and it all became immediately obvious what was going on. He got me. I feel VERY sorry for her, and it would be a miracle if somehow she found Christianity. We will pray for her.
Gratitude to our host for creating the space for this discussion. Abundant gratitude to Zeena for courageously sharing her story. Having escaped a 70s-cult-soaked-family myself, my heart joins with Zeena in the message that one can choose to leave and live the life of one's choosing.
Dr. Peterson, you weren't kidding when you said at the end that you barely scratched the surface. I could have watched this for another 2 hours. Excellent interview!! Thanks to both of you. What an incredibly sad but interesting life story you had Ms Zeena Schreck. Thank you for sharing. God bless you. ❤🙏
@@Tropicalpisces well at least she finally came around. My parents and siblings are hardcore Christians and they treat me a bit differently because I chose my own path. It’s almost like they think they’re better than me or that they feel sorry for me or something lol
@@hieronymusx8111hmm. I am Ortodox Cristian. My kids and I are going to Church almost every Sunday. They take parts in Liturgy . I hold our four lents and i try to read my morning and evening prayrs. I do not see me or my kids better then my neighbors who doesnt go to Church. My mom , like me, is Ortodox, we are baptized like baby, she doesnt do all other things that Iam doing and one time she said the exact same thing. It feels like you are better then us, who dont do this. I was soo surprised by this statment. I told her, no mom, i am not. I know how Big sinner I am, and i felt Jesus love , i know how much he loves us unconditionaly. That is devillplaying with you. Belive me, no good Cristian, who truly belives in God snd Jesus Christ will think thst he is somehow better then others. Our role model should be Jesus, and compare to him….. well, we are …. I dont know, but durely not better then other persons . God bless you and sorry for my bed english, not my first lenguage. God loves us all.
@@marianmorleycan you give me more info on that!? Sincerely asking. I’m not a huge Peterson fan, but I don’t dislike him… I just have … questions. Would really love to follow up on your claim, I agree that’s a HUGE 🚩
Well there may have been few who have wrongfully been accused of things, however, the "satanic panic" was definitely a psy-op of the so called elite. SRA, human sacrifice and horrors overall of satanism are real and it was and is something to be very concerned about. Research the horrors of SRA survivors for starters.
If you look up the FBI files on "The Finders", there was a random map in the middle of 100's of pages of documents that was a blueprint of the schools underground tunnels. Hardly anyone saw it.
If Zeena knows full well Satan is a real being, it would be interesting to hear her have a conversation with Matt Dillahunty on that topic. She knows Satan is a real being, Matt Dillahunty says Satan never existed.
What a really genuine guy Peterson is, a great interview with a very strong woman who has had such a 'more than interesting' life. These sort of interviews are really making Peterson part of the normal daily diet of thought provoking discussions
I’m am admittedly a big fan of JBP but this was an excellent interview. He asked such compelling questions and Zeena did so well. She has clearly done a LOT of work since leaving that chapter of her life. Just look at the comments from this video!!!! Usually the comment section is to be avoided but my goodness!!!! This video has elicited such amazing thoughts and accounts from peoples lives. This is what we all need,… good examples of how to listen, respect, and acknowledge one another.
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? Here you go create another fable, you wanted to Grab a brush and put a little make-up, you wanted to Hide the scars to fade away the shake-up, you wanted to Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to I don't think you trust In my self-righteous suicide I cry when angels deserve to die Wake up (wake up)
@Nexionlink999 Science has failed our world, science has failed our mother earth. Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reins go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith. Spirit moves through all things.
Can I just say THANK YOU to Zeena and Dr. Peterson. There are many aspects of my upbringing, quite negative, directly related to the Satanic Panic. I was sent to a homeless shelter as a teen because I had an Ann Rice book and a heavy metal tape. Was letting demons in the house, you know. This interview is part of my journey and healing as well. THANK YOU both immensely.
It was evidence of her narcissistic personality. She would not let Jordan Peterson finish a thought without interjections and she refuted Peterson’s psychoanalysis because she wanted control of the conversation.
We have no idea what they each agreed to as far as negotiating this interview. She may be keeping him on a track they agreed to. Or, she may be somewhat of an inadvertent narc just because she was raised by some. It’s not for us to judge.
I met her once in Germany over 10+ year ago. Very kind, very genuine lady. She sounds very stressed in this interview discussing the past, and it reflects the trauma her parents both put upon her and their children. No wonder with two narcissistic and hedonistic parents. Very happy to hear that she is doing well and can reflect on her childhood now with wisdom and insight. Ironically, I also met her ex-husband Nick Shreck in London about 5 years ago at a speaking event. Very well spoken, kind and gracious. Both just lovely people.
Zeena comes from such a complicated family dynamic. It is so hurtful coming from this horribly toxic environment. So much of her upbringing resonates with me bc my family of origin is so similar.
She’s still doing the work of the enemy…denying the fact of the existence of the devil…and the worship of him being a religion….shutting it off at 20 mins…Christ is king and loves everyone. It is his will that none shall perish.
As a Catholic, I'm concerned for her. She has rejected the devil, but not accepted Christ. This is as Jesus said when he talked about a demon being cast out, wandering the land and then returning to find the house swept, clean and in order. He will return and invite seven more of his friends.
Imagine how traumatized she was, only to go to the inverse? She's probably trying to clear the slate... God will knock, lets hope she welcomes Him before its too late. So many Souls need to be prayed & fasted for these days Bl. Bartolo Longo Ora pro nobis❤️🔥
@@manasseh36Thank you for telling somebody that they may not profess their own beliefs becuase they may not, by your estimation, have more than one single concern. Very logical 😂 Yes everybody knows about all of the accusations about all the priests that have been dead for decades before these accusations came up, but hating on the Catholic Church is what the media does best. The predation rate of priests is still almost 10 times lower vs in the other professtions and 3 times lower than general population rate. It is literally the lowest of all categories, just so you understand how propaganda works. Imagine if you expressed concern about anything and I just responded with a generic reference of rate of predation in the specific industry you referenced, and told you to concern yourself with that first. Real critical thinking there. I think you owe this person a genuine apology.
@@manasseh36Funny, since CSA is slightly higher among non-Catholic denominations, and ironically, 80x - 100x higher in the secular teaching profession. Given that, is it Child Predators you hate, or is it actually that you just hate the Church. Because I’m guessing you’re not gonna put the same energy into trolling Teachers. And that says a lot.
I feel so much gratitude for this interview to be taken place in such a profound ethical way. Thank you Dr.Peterson thank you Zeena for the opportunity to experience such interactions. Blessings for both and for the rest of you supporting this platforms.
I have just finished the Daily Wire section and I ended up feeling so much better about Zeena. She has a found joy and peace and healing. She has a beautiful life now. Dr. Peterson so put her at her ease that she lightened up and relaxed and opened up to him. It was absolutely beautiful and I think it was healing for her.
@@dianamarie1652Don't speak on things you don't understand or people you don't know. Some of us found true peace through other religions/spiritualities.
@@melindaroop1346 she is speaking on things that she understands as a person who thought they found peace in other religions until you actually give Christ a try. You will continue to think that chaos and uncertainty is peace. Either that or your ignorance is bliss , I however, I have worked my way up in all types of theologies until I came back to Christ and gave him an actual try. Did I know that everything else was a lie Or part of the truth and not the truth.
I have to say that I am not a huge Peterson fan and that I find his style of interviewing to be self involved and egocentric. However, this interview was absolutely inspiring and engaging, mostly on Zeena's part, and it is wonderful that we got a chance to see and appreciate her interesting life. Although I found the interview to be interesting in it's entirety, the moment of the interview at the beginning where she states that she hopes that people who are indoctrinated into a certain belief system from a young age have the possibility to essentially reinvent themselves, really moved me. I think she genuinely wants people to heal themselves and that is why she had the strength to delve into her past in such a personal way. What a remarkable woman. She carries a quiet strength that I admire. She even tactfully put Peterson in his place with her observation that she does not like doing interviews where she is interrupted by the interviewer. I just love her.
This is one of the best interviews this year. Please interview Zeena again. There are almost no intelligent interviews of children of psychopaths. Thank you Zeena for sharing your story so honestly.
Agree, I would like to ask her why, although she says she have abandoned satanism, in her store she sells a t-shirt ('The Original') with a photo of herself with baphomet in the background. It seems as if she hasn't really left all the past behind, which I've generally seen people do when they leave satanism and no longer want to have anything to do with it by throwing away any photos, materials or references to it. So I was a little perplexed when I saw this shirt for sale on her website.
@@joeler1182 because she’s a liar, the progeny of the father of lies. Not her earth-bound pops… her everlasting one. So so many blatant lies and still diabolical utterings from this one. Dia (the Latin to ‘rend’) and boline (the Latin for ‘apart’)… so to be Diaboline, or diabolical means to literally tear apart all that good. That’s this chick to a gold-plated tee… I say ‘plated’, mind you… and I mean it. Brassy as that hair
That's when you're a true Satanist when you sacrifice a child all these other people saying they were in the satanic church but didn't see or do any of that were just larping pawns
I'm curious about that part of her last as well. Stanton became a druggy and he and his girlfriend were convicted of sexual assault against a woman from what I remember. Stanton died of an OD a few years back, a sad, wasted life. My suspicion though it would require Zeena speaking on it as well as corroborate from anyone still around who knew Anton, Stanton, and Zeena and can speak honestly, that Stanton was likely a product of incest. The clues are there if you read about Zeena. Doesn't excuse her decision, but the abandonment of her son is made understandable if these were the circumstances of his birth. Zeena wouldn't have needed to curse her son for him to be cursed in a way if that was his origin. RIP to Stanton.
@LivingInTheKaliYogurt I've wondered about that myself, but my gut tells me he was not. Somehow I think Zeena would have come out about something like this if it were true, especially after having separated herself from the family and COS. I wish her nothing but the best, but the Stanton issue is concerning and I'd like to hear her side of the story.
@@HiHoSilvey My eyes are already open my third is too I have found peace in witchcraft I'm proud to be a witch and if I have to burn at the stake then burn me
Smart that she went no contact from her father. She finally “got it” and disconnected. She had an undeserved loyalty to her father. A loyalty that he never deserved or earned. John Bradshaw called it a fantasy bond with a parent that needs to be broken. It is a bond based on what u think ur parent is when that is not who they really are.
She also abandoned her own son Stanton, to be raised by his grandparents, Anton and Diane.. she was a young mother, there was always gossip that Anton was the father of his grandson .. i knew Stanton, zeenas son.. she abused and abandoned her own son and left him to be raised by his grandparents.. the same people shes now accusing of abusing her!
@@izzydeadyet7336that’s normal everywhere when your young with child. “ it’s not just her case “ that’s all over the world. You call it abandonment. It’s more “ immature”. “ unprepared “. That’s normal all over the world. All over the world
@@izzydeadyet7336 In all fairness to her... Zeena was very young when she had Stanton and... tbh... she was never ready or prepared to be a mother. For all of his faults & deceptions as a Carni-showman and a huckster... Anton LeVey at least appears to have been a halfway decent grandfather to his grandson, Stanton (perhaps Anton saw, felt or otherwise knew of his shortcomings & failures as a father and at least tried to make up for it by being a good grandfather... or at least a better one). Correct me if I'm wrong... but didn't Stanton's grandmother (Zeena's mom, Diane Hegarty)... pass away not long after her grandson?? Also, and now that I think on it... who was Stanton's biological father?? Was it that police officer that Zeena mentions earlier in the interview?? Thanks in advance💯
This should be interesting ❤I just heard the most amazing story about her sister's redemption and something I never knew about her father's death. I hope Zeena also comes to know Yeshua🙏❤🙌🙌🙌God is amazing!
That interview that is floating around on many channels is false. I emailed Zeena and one of her assistants that schedules her interviews promised me this is not a true family member of Anton Levay. I also know that pastor and his family. And that woman DJ/Rey Rey Still practices magic. And her daughter is a satanic artist. There are some major lies coming out of that church Glad Tidings. Dave Bryan is a Freema$on.
If Zeena reads this, just know, you are being prayed for. Christ is calling you. Anton, your father, you know how he passed into eternity, you know that God cut his silver cord when he was astral projecting Halloween of 1997. You know that Jesus is real and He loves you. I pray that you come to Christ and become born again. He will give you life,.. and that is something satan will never give you.
I guess one day she will have a real story to tell. Because if what Pastor Dave Bryan said is true, then Zeena would of had to Astral Project from Germany to get into Deborah Joy's body as he claims that he encountered her thru Deborah after Anton died. I was a freshman in college at Oral Roberts University in 97 when i wrote a paper on Satanism and reached out to Zeena by email. She was living in Germany then. Pastor Dave makes it sound like Zeena was still in the picture. Im sorry but there are holes in his story. That story he gave about traveling 110 miles an hour on the highway before encountering a dark demon that controlled an Indian Reservation. He said that the Lord warned him of the demon but the Lord didn't warn him that he should probably slow down. So he is going 110 in a van full of people and the spirit makes all the doors fly open and NO wreck? What an Angel prevented a wreck at reckless speeds to begin with? He (PDB) also claims that Anton put a tendon into Deborah Joy to gain control over her. IF she was already blood of his blood and flesh of his flesh, WHY would he need to do that? She already had his DNA inside of her??? HOLES
The death of LaVey at the hands of a priest after saving her daughter is a made-up story with zero foundations. There exist no records of Anton LaVey having a third daughter anywhere, let alone any family members that converted to Christianity. Astral Projection is also simply not a practice in Satanism. Remember that anyone who has a mouth talks, and there are certain amounts of fame one could ride by claiming to end the life of the most notorious Satanist. I would suggest being more skeptical and doing more research
This is a very rude and typically “evangelical” empty comment. You have absolutely no idea how Our Lord’s rich mercy works nor do you understand anything about Christianity. Your statements are anything but Christian. Hopefully you come to understand true Orthodoxy if you know what that means. If you know, you know…if you don’t know then you don’t know. Our Lord loves and saved all men. However, theosis.
I'm very impressed with Ms. Schreck, a very intelligent person with a very observant mind. I liked what she brought to the table, an insight into the CofS that I never knew existed. Thank you to both of you for not just sitting down together, but for also allowing us to come along. I'll be praying for both of you!!
17:18 and I feel like she STILL lying and protecting her dad. I pray she will finally see the truth and face the truth.. Zeena - Jesus loves u so much. He is waiting to you. He is the only father u need. ✝️❤️ I’m sorry church people have hurt u before, it’s WRONG, but I know you know there are good fallowers of Christ who love u. You know Gods power is the greatest. Please humble yourself and surrender to him. ❤ love you!
I've watched '50 voices' first, with horrific testimonies. Now come across this video. Seems darkness is coming to light. No room for evil in this world anymore. Love and peace.
My heart breaks for Zeena. To have experienced rejection from her parents and hostility from the Christian church - the one place she should have found compassion - no wonder she's resorted to Buddhism. We can only pray the real Jesus reaches her in her journey towards enlightenment.
Me too, I strongly disagree with Peterson, most often than not, and I think I know why he is platforming her of all people. But nonetheless Zeena is such an interesting individual that you wonder what she is going to answer. I love how she gently and politely dismantles some of the assumptions Peterson tries to establish in the intro, beginning by Satanists are not all "let loose" hippie kinda people. And I've only begun watching. Glad Peterson's fandom gets exposed to her.
@@OpsReitiawhat would you possibly have to be opposed to Peterson ? He makes perfect logical sense about %98 of the time. His out look on most topics are observations that are based in fact anyone can see. He never goes off feelings or frivolous thoughts. You make no sense
@@OpsReitiawell don’t forget that she had a choice whether or not to be “platformed” by him. And if you’re so against so much of what he says, you’re only furthering his agenda by viewing and commenting … but I digress. Clearly you must watch him enough to know how much of his rhetoric you do and don’t agree with.
Wonderful woman. I'm going through the worst time of my life right now. And I'm lost, but as Zeena said, being lost can be a great blessing. It hurts, but it shows me the truth about myself. May God keep her in His care and our Holy Mother Mary protect her always 🙏🏻
Jesus said that he has come to seek and to save the lost! If you've repented of your sins to Jesus Christ and walk in relationship with him daily call Ma he has been forgiven your sins and you are on his path through the gates of heaven. Claim Jesus because he is the savior, he is yours and my savior.
@@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord It's not that simple, not so fast. There is also penance, compensation for evil and fasting. There is still purgatory and suffering. But its all for good.
I'm not even fifteen minutes into this and LeVays own daughter admits that he was anti hippie, anti occultist and very much part of the "establishment". Very interesting to say the least.
This morning, I fell asleep while watching this interview and had a spiritual attack during my sleep. It was a figure in black clothes approaching and tried hard to scream out the name of Jesus. When I finally managed to pronounce the name of Jesus, the scene disappeared in a flash like a television screen switching off, and I woke up and made a prayer to cast out evil spirits. The time was just after 4 am.
That’s a night terror. Hopefully that’s the only one you have. Jesus pulls people out of them guaranteed. There’s a group on FB where people who struggle with night terrors talk about this.
One can understand why you would have such an attack. While Zeena has gained understanding and some wisdom, she is still in darkness and great bondage, still hating the Creator and his Son. She has substituted the worship of one demon for another. May the Lord Jesus protect you and give you peace and joy.
I hate that she had such negative experiences with the church and I pray she understands that not all Christians are that way and she finds Christ. That would be a real miracle of God. ❤
@@wretchedrabbit if I ever met this woman, I would do more than pray for her. I would share the gospel with her. But since I’ll never come in contact with her, all I can do is pray that she will encounter someone who will share it with her.
This is a silly thing, but I can't stop looking at her hands. She makes so many different symbolic hand gestures. I don't think it is even intentional, and I'm not judging her. I am impressed with how well spoken she is. Thank you Dr.Peterson for brining her on.
@jonp3890 I will Def go re watch and time stamp. I noticed the thumb to index finger, making a circle with the other fingers extended. I also noticed the thumb under the index finger (it makes a cross ) Again, right off the top of my head, don't have a time stamp. Will try and snag one and put in down in the comments. Thank you for the suggestion!
@staceyjayneplatt9527 yes! He does! Very dramatic with his hand motions. I just felt like her hand motions contained symbolic gestures. I could be totally wrong. It was just an observation
Satan isn't going to present himself thru a clown act. It will come shiny and wonderful void of sound doctrine. Think Lakewood Church in Houston/Joel Osteen or Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis and other hucksters.. No talk of repentance, no talk of Christ's atoning death and lots of talk about self worth and prosperity.
@@1984isnotamanual satan is not, but the “ father of lies, devil” is. Satan is a bad characterization of the boogey man. But before humans could even exist, there already was present another entity (and cohorts) on these lands. Mamon, Father of Lies, Legion, Devil. Get to know the distinction, so many believe its the same thing.
@@Razzaq585 I know that Satan has different origins and means different things even within the Bible. It’s mythology. It’s humans trying to explain things before science. Like why do kids get cancer and why are people evil and all that.
She is still so broken and it must be hard to do these interviews. She has survived so much. Lavey was not just an author, he was an evil man to his core. I pray she finds the Lord and eternal peace 🙏 🙏
I respect your sentiments but I don't think you need to find the Lord to find peace. I was brought up in a toxic Christian environment & I've found much more peace in agnosticism & eastern religions. Toxicity can be found in many religious sects as well.
@@Tified967I respect your sentiments too but your opinion is not fact. The Bible is true and Jesus is real. You will either believe that or not, that is your choice, but there is an eternal price to pay if you reject Christ. Said in truth and love 🙏🏻
@@Tified967I guess that appeal of agnosticism and eastern religions is that there is no moral absolutes and no punishment for doing whatever you wish, that's basically Crowley's satanism. You can be all tatted up and pierced, have sex with whoever you want, feel special about yourself and be egotistical and celebrated instead of shamed for it, as you should be.
@@KJVkatie77 And considering Jordan refuses to even say he believes in the physical resurrection, he surely will be paying that price. Odd then that you're watching a channel of someone the church would have absolutely labelled a heretic not too long ago for his purely symbolic approach.
I honestly don’t think he was evil to the core. Just a flawed man. Had narcissism and was a manipulative egomaniac. His entire philosophy was there to justify his ego. He actually did have real human emotions. He really did love his family and close friends. His “fan club” was a means to an end. He didn’t care about anyone he didn’t personally know. His version of Satanism was if you took Ayn Rands philosophy and added Halloween ascetic to it. It’s all show. He liked the image. With a label like “satanism” it attracted all sorts of weirdos. The core philosophy was basically objectivism though.
Thank you Dr. Peterson for your time and dedication as well. I find your interviews exciting and expanding. Zeena Schreck thank you for this interview with Dr. Peterson. I didn't know who you were nor anything about the Satanism church until this interview. What i am trying to say Zeena is you did inspire hope in me. I appreciate both of you and all that you do. sincerely, Cal Hughes
Dr. Peterson, I’ve noticed you’re allowing more space for your guests to speak and I very much appreciate it. Excellent work, sir!
Hopefully Jordan has learned to let his guest speak more. He used to interrupt his guests way too often
I think with the delay between interview and publication it might be that he got the feedback from the musk interview for example.
JP is a man that can still learn and improve - after all the fame, thats great to see!
Hope i can still do that when im old ❤
Dr. Peterson has always taken peoples criticisms to heart I believe. He said that '12 Rules' didn't come from making commandments but rather giving succinct answers that people proved to respond to when he wrote articles in the 90s. 🙏
And I bet it takes a lot of effort. Although he knows how to listen better than most, you tell he has a lot to say and wants to get out.
I think it depends on the guest too. This topic is new to a.lot of people so you're not going assume what she's going to say next.
@@brianmeen2158 occupational habit
Great interview. Very happy she left satanism. I would like to point out something regarding Tantric Buddhism, based on 14 years of immersive practice, before being pulled to Christ a year ago.
Buddhism is a very common path to fall into when one is dissatisfied with Abrahamic religion, as I was. My dissatisfaction was based on a very surface level understanding and falling for anti Christian propaganda.
In my experience of practicing hard, meditating 2 hours a day, reading texts for another hour a day, going on retreats, receiving teachings from famous Tibetan teachers, I got good at visualizing, sitting still for long periods, quieting my mind and controlling my emotions better. What I did not get was an “enlightenment experience” or any amazing revelations or sudden transformation. I never met anyone, including these high level teachers, who claimed to either.
What Zeena said about compassion being the centerpiece of all the practices is true, however it’s very abstract. The main thrust is to become enlightened so you can bring others to enlightenment.
What I found to be very unsatisfying and unnerving was the level of dedication one must have to one’s teacher or teachers, literally offering prostrations to them, and being taught over and over to see them as an enlightened Buddha, ignoring anything in their behavior that contradicts this.
Another observation of westerners who practice Tibetan Buddhism is the disrespect for Abrahamic religions, especially Christianity. In addition to that, almost everyone (everyone I knew) had the same political beliefs, which fall to the left. Conservatives, like Christians, were clearly not respected.
Once I answered the pull of Christ, which came out of nowhere, I found that I was greatly misinformed and under informed of the incredibly deep and profound truths found in the Christian traditions. Within weeks of feeling that strange pull to Christianity, I accepted Christ and my life has changed dramatically for the better. My marriage is better, my friendships are better, my health is better, my self discipline is better. In a few weeks, my life changed more than in 14 years of “practice”.
I thank Jordan Peterson for part of my waking up to the depth of what I used to think of as a silly collection of myths.
Just to be clear, my transformation came when I repented, thanked Christ for his sacrifice, admitted out loud that I need Him in my life and asked for the grace of faith.
Amen!!! ❤ ✝️ ❤
Thanks for this message.
I'm glad that someone who is familiar with Buddhism spoke up about this.
Have you given your testimony anywhere on youtube? I'd love to hear more about your experience. You seem to have good insight
Incredible testimony! I am also a Christian Theist, but I've always seen the immense value in meditation. Do you still practice it today as a Christian?
Damn, as a former CoS member and LeVayen Satanist It's crazy seeing an appearance by Zeena.. JBP is the reason I stepped away from the Occult almost 8yrs ago. It's a long difficult road back to God, but I'm headed down the path the best I can.
I was born into a generational occult family and just read an AMAZING book called “You Are Mine” by Sister Anastasia. She was both a Tibetan Buddhist and a witch, and it’s about her path out
Congrats on breaking the chains.
Gets easier when you realise it's all just made up nonsense to make losers feel powerful and unique
Are you a THEIST? 🤔
If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓
❤ the devil won’t let you go without a fight, remember that when you feel down or angry.
You got this!
God bless you
I used to be a witch/new ager until I had an encounter with God and gave my life to Christ. I pray she has the same experience one day. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Christ can be incorporated into any witches pagan pantheon. It's not juxtaposed, though many people tend to think so. You find Christian mysticism in much occultism.
Zeena strikes me as a soft spoken intelligent woman who found her path. She is a Buddhist which is her choice of religion: not everyone chooses Christ. And if you don’t you shouldn’t be ostracized. Religion is a choice for everyone as long as you harm no one. We all have a right to our own beliefs
I will tell you that there’s a difference between following a religion and having a personal relationship with Jesus. I don’t think there’s any ostracizing here; trust me, when The Lord grabs a hold of you…you won’t ever want to go back to life before knowing Him
@@MsTaebogirl amen. I am going to non stop pray for Zeena, until she has a: The Good Lord Jesus, encounter and indeed, never looks back...and is completely healed of her past in the perfect name of Jesus Christ ✝️🕊✝️.
God does not like religion. You're either his child and have a personal relationship with him or you don't. Remember Heaven is his kingdom. It is for his family.
When I was an atheist and young man, I read Anton Zander LaVey’s Satanic Bible, which purported to be the opposite of Christianity, and it made sense to me. Then I read part 2, which was Satanic Rituals and I realized it was sick & problematic. I never believed in Satan until I became a Messianic Jew/Biblical Christian. A mentor told me Satan’s greatest deception was to make people believe he didn’t exist. After serious reflection and ‘Coming To Believe’; I realized she was right. Praise Jesus Christ, Lord & Savior of the world.
I pray she comes clean about how her dad rly died...
And the 6 yrs of torture her sister endured. And the demonic evil she went thru in the 7th and final yr of completing the ritual of attempting to impregnate her by being raped by the devil himself in the hopes of the anti christ being born and what she had to endure to get away of it all.
She knows what really happened. I hope she doesn't lie about anything.
I did the same thing. It made my faith stronger
Amen!!!❤
Praise God for people like you! Don’t ever stop giving your testimony
Wow. Thank you for sharing that. I’m glad you are a believer today.
I was heavily into Satanism in my early 20s. Lead me down a very dark path. JBP helped bring me into the light 6 years ago today.
Praise God 🙌
Just a disillusioned Christian.
What did You find appealing about satanismo?
May God bless and guide you jn all things dear one.
You jumped on a trend and failed. As Lavey said "A sucker is born every minute". You never where a Satanist.
About 20 years back, I met her older sister, Karla at a church of Satan event. I wasn't a Satanist per se, but had an interest in the Occult. Anyways, she was very friendly and intelligent, and we had a great conversation. I've since returned to Christianity, and sincerely hope she gets saved, along with every other Satanist. I pray for their salvation.
Is Karla,'rae rae'?!!!!
@@oldredbeard1446 I pray the same
We have all fallen short of the Glory
All
Amen. I believe her sister has been saved. Anton did horrible things to her I understand
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That’s what I was wondering 🤔
@@kerryalfaro9437I heard there was another sister named Raven.
For Mr. JBP and Zeena, and everyone else......the only path to true peace (and sanity), is through JESUS CHRIST.
Yes, I agree. This was sad to listen to . The poor woman sounded like she’s still deluded with claims that “religion” and “ Abrahamic beliefs” were the problem with her Father. “Abrahamic religious people “ include all Christians which, apparently, she sees as being just as bad as her Father ?? This was hard to listen to.
@@EvonRomano-ge2ogfrom what I'm hearing, early in interview, I agree. My first impression of her was uncomfortable. She has a darkness yet to her. Deliverance would help her greatly I believe. As it did me.
It's quite clear she's still struggling with much of this. I hope she comes to understand true Christianity and the unmatched love, acceptance, and freedom found there. 🙏
Americanized versions of Buddhism and Hinduism are just alternate ways to attack Christianity. She literally blamed “Abrahamic religion “ for her father’s narcissistic behavior and then went on to explain that Christians are part of the “abrahamic religion “ but that she is above all that……very sad. Very dark
Absolutely not. Grow up.
This made me cry… this woman is so loved…. ✝️ I hope she will get to experience Christs real love for her. Buddhism helped me in life.. but it wasn’t until I experienced Christ’s love that everything finally made sense. I’ll be offering prayers up for her.. let’s storm heaven for her guys.. ❤
We should
Amen
How does one experience christs love ?
Invite Jesus Christ into your life and tell Him you want to experience His love.@@hedonismbot3274
@hedonismbot3274 sincerely ask and pray for Jesus to show himself to you and to ask him to come into your heart and life. It sounds a little funny but please try it your life will be transformed. God Bless you and never forget Jesus loves you and has a plan for your life.
This was an unbelievably good episode! Peterson really flexed his listening ears, and gave Zeena a chance to unpack her thoughts while gently drawing parallels to Christian theology.
Hahahaha. Totally. Noticed it especially after his last interview
@@GirlWithnail I've never seen Peterson so quiet before lol the look on his face was great too, he was so deeply engaged with what she was saying, like a proper therapy session 😆
@@Aerojuanas hahahaha. Yeah!
Yesss such a great episode!!
A true therapists lets you do the talking and walking through your situation to discover things for yourself.
As a Christian this discussion was very informative and important. Mrs LaVey and everyone that is in the occult take their religion seriously and as Christian we should too .We are not fighting against flesh and blood. Wake up Christians stop sleeping (Matthew 26:36-46) thank you Jordan for this conversation 🙏🏾👍🏾
Nobody cares about your attention seeking
oh nvm 50 others feel the same way, ah that's how the pastor got you all to abide by his commands, you don't want to be the odd man out I understand, ok you're accepted in the group , the group that you randomly region specific was born
@@PuppetMasterdaath144 is this even english dude?
@@cyber1nix dude check my page im extremely intelligent I can write however I want you're not my boss
"Oh, I see you're the only one who thinks differently, and that's what makes you special. The pastor's commands are irrelevant, and you're not afraid to stand out from the crowd. You don't need to be accepted by the group, and you're not bound by regional specifics. You're a free thinker, and your uniqueness is what makes you valuable."
I had no idea there would be so many people profesing their Christianity in the comments. Fascinating interview.
Yep, fear of the devil makes them flash gheir crosses. Fear is a hell of thing.
@BuddhatheRockstar
I think the same. But that does not impress me, just words! Not too many real 100% Christians on Earth, if any!
Of course there's real authentic Christians on the Earth because God's grace is real and authentic and h
He's left a remnant. Just read the comments in the chat and see how Jesus has restored so many people's lives. Praise God! That's what he does! He restores and He renews, among other things. There is no one that is out of his reach.
Fascinating lady. My sister and I were born in the 60's to preoccupied, driven, hedonistic parents who abandoned their parental obligations in order to further their respective careers and also chase their rampant sex lives. It's interesting to hear her take on that period of time in society and to hear how she began to recognize toxic patterns of behavior. Great interview!
I was born 1965, i know how you feel, my parents fled their religious parents and community, to pursue their own hedonistic, hippy lifestyle in another part of the country far away from view. I have spent most of my life trying to fix and correct myself from the terrible habits, values and ideals that i was exposed to. Mr. Peterson has been my personal enlightenment and probably savior. I have matured and am coming back to the lord every day. my deepest thanks Mr. Peterson
i was born in the 80's to parents who were the same. your generation is not unique
I pray 🙏🙏🙏 you can forgive your parents... I also had a crazy up bring ling and my real dad done inappropriate. Things to me and it was a while before I forgave them both... It wasn't me allow to forgive I kept 🙏 and I felt a hot bucket of what felt like warm oil run down my head to my toes and it was forgiveness after this incident happened it was gone. I felt love again for him... I hope this helps you
@@user-su5db5mb7x oh I and my sister have forgiven them, both are in perfect health and will each probably live to be 98 years old. They will probably outlive both me and my sister at this rate. We are respectful and cordial to them but it's not easy to forget the 10,000 times they could have done the right thing but didn't. Most of what people deem evil is just selfishness and an "eff you" given to the basic rules of humanity. There are levels of it, from the terrible parent all the way down to the serial killer. But selfishness is at the root of all of it.
@@duderinoification ouch, why the hatred of comparison? I find it best to simply relate and pray for others that can relate ! I am so grateful I was spared as I too was born in the 80s however my parents were born in the 40's - so me and my 7 older siblings were spared and really we were protected because my parents found it beyond obvious the idiocrasy that took over in the 60's and 70's. I pray your heart heals and that you have found the light.
When I went through my agnostic phase in younger years I remembering researching what satanism was really about, and of course I came across Zeena, so it’s definitely great to see her now talking about all of that so we can absolutely have more understanding, and how who the man was behind all of it and her experience. Today I am a believer in Christ, we can always learn from everything.
I pray Zeena will be protected and blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ
Coming out of this darkness and what it represents takes a lot of courage and boldness
Perhaps we should pray to Our God Lord Jesus that she comes to repentance and Salvation through the Only Savior. She cannot receive His Protection until she submits to Him. It is the same for everyone.
It's insane to realize that this is, from what I hear, Taylor Swift's grandmother?😮😮😮
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Notice The Cross in the background at 10:27…. GOD IS THERE LOOKING AFTER THIS WOMAN!!!
Forget superstition of all kinds, including Jewish zombie spirits.
She's Buddhist which is way older than Christianity. Please respect her philosophy. One could argue that Jesus was Buddhist. Christians should really study philosophy and other religions before bashing someone else's. You'll find there are many similarities.
I can’t describe the pain I felt listening to her and hearing what she has been through. I had a crazy childhood myself and very disturbing relationship with my dad.
I understand her desire to go towards Buddhism. I just pray she looks into Jesus. I so want to send her my love and pray for her healing.
I had a hard life also but I didn't run to the devil it's backwards
@@A1trizzy I thank God I wasn’t brought up by the head of the satanic church being taught since I could understand words that this was their god. I can’t imagine a child seeing the wicked things she saw and the coldness of what her father called love.
I pray God opens her eyes and she sees the Truth.
Amen. Very nice comment and God bless you and cover you in the blood of Jesus❤
She having hard time talking complete thoughts n wanders off topic in choppy kind of way. 60s alot of drugs Hard to believe her father not doping while writing for Satans evil to destroy the Holy before their time so evil lives longer.
@A1trizzy she didn't run to the devil, bro 😂 she was raised in a Satanic household, very different. And she eventually broke free from the toxic family that taught her that.
It breaks my heart to hear how much the Church of Satan has caused her to hold disdain for all “Abrahamic Religions” including Christianity. When God commanded us to love our enemies, that includes those that are lost, even those practicing Satanism or esotericism. Christians should NEVER threaten the lives of ANYONE regardless how twisted their worldview may be. Truth without Love is mean. Love without Truth is meaningless.
I live the last sentence you wrote. I understand why she feels that way. Many self proclaimed Christians do truly horrible things.
You make a valid point albeit I see many self righteous people even in this comments section praising the Lord etc, many of which probably proclaim to follow Jesus's teaching but are intolerant towards others religions, atheists etc or simply those who hold another world view. I grew up in a very toxic Christian household where emotional abuse was committed in the name of Jesus & saw irreligious children who had a wholesome upbringing. Toxicity is not confined to irreligious sects alone 😊
So you turn yourself to a judge how Christian should behave. What do you know ? Everyone knows which values Christian hold to …
This woman is a liar and from the father of lies.
@@divine.defined.sthetics9876Who said Christians aren’t allowed to judge? Then how does a Christian discern sin-if they are not allowed to judge? If you’re talking about Matthew 7:1 then you need context and include all of Matthew chapter 7 where Jesus goes on to talk about being a hypocrite. Don’t take the sawdust out of your brother’s eye without first taking the plank out of your own eye. Many people throw out Matthew 7:1 as a “gotcha” scripture without putting it into context. It is absolutely okay for a Christian to condemn the behavior of another Christian that uses violence to destroy their enemies. That’s why in Matthew 18 Jesus gives instruction about how to kick an evildoer out of the church (which takes judgment and action). I would argue that the baseball bat offenders were not “Christians” in the first place because that’s not what Christ teaches.
I can’t help but think how much the true God of scripture LOVES this dear woman and He knows everything she had to endure … praying for her sweet soul
And now she worships another false satanic god (buddha) she is reaping up Gods anger and she does need prayer cause she knows Jesus is real and still after everything she has seen rejects God. 🤔
❤❤❤
Amen
Amen me too ill pray for her too she needs Jesus
To me scripture were created by philosophers who anthropomorphised a spiritual realm so humans of those times could relate to their literature of 'good', offering hope and codes of ethics to live by. They need nurturing as where the 'good' fades evil will replace it. Pray for world peace as war is being planned
I pay to my Father in heaven , the king of kings and Lord of lords , in the name of Jesus Christ , my saviour , that Zeena is touched by God and set free from the deception of any fouls religions . Amen
Amen! I just send this link to my sister and said great she's gotten out of Witchcraft but into another form of witchcraft. Praying for her salvation❤
Yes, please let's pray and agree that she would see this loving Savior that can truly set her free. In Jesus' name.
Amen 🙏🏻.
In agreement praying 🙏
In agreement with your prayer. Only Christ can save.
Matthew 18:20
“For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.”
Romans 10:9
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
Hi from El Paso, TX, where Richard Ramirez was born, btw. Just wanted to tell Zeena that it hurts to hear that she was mistreated by supposed Christians. Believe me, that's not a true believers heart! Praying for you for a real encounter w Jesus. He is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. Mankind will always fail and disappoint, but Jesus never will! ❤
I thought the same thing. As a follower of Jesus I would never attack her. I would pray for her.
I have never heard Jordan speak so little. I'm impressed with you allowing her to speak and let it flow. Your interview skills are improving
About f*cking time he shut up and let someone smarter than him speak
Because he knows he’s talking to a natural born narcissist
@@Topsy6892 that's why I thought they had so much in common
Thank G-d for The Doc!
@@RebelPrintMediamy thoughts exactly. Thank goodness there is someone else that can see right through the bullshit. Oh well. He's only Human 😂❤
Ex buddhist turned believer in Jesus Christ! I pray she encounters the true God amen God bless her
Amen!!!
Amen
Praise God brother or sister in Christ!!! I am so happy (and smiled so big when reading your comment)that you are saved and welted Jesus as your Savior!! God bless you!!
Amen.
Yes, amen!
Jordan saying her mother sacrificed Her is right on the mark. Her family dynamic is unbelievably similar to mine. My mother Also did not know her father who also was a stumbling alcoholic on the streets. I definitely was raised in a web of lies which I was constantly trying to decipher and punished sometimes for asking questions as young as 7 years old.
I have a similar story too. One day it came crumbling down when my biological granddaughter contacted me.
Many of us who had very hard childhoods,,,are very strong people today, I can certainly say this, and I pray you can also. Thank you for sharing your story, I send you blessings of love
Thank you for posting this. Zeena is on quite a journey of faith. So glad for her that she escaped the trauma that almost took her life. This was very enlightening. I wish her well. May this journey lead her to a profound relationship with Jesus Christ. ❤❤❤
So, beautifully said. And I completely agree with you. Zeena's destiny is in Heaven with The God of our universe and His perfect Son,, Who paid the price for all of us to get to live in bliss, eternally. ✝️🕊
I remember an old interview of hers before I really committed to Christ and she had said that there are not as many Christians in the world as we think. I was too young to understand what she meant but I get it now. With the gospel being as watered as it is there really are not as many as we think.
This is a thing. I have a hard time even classifying myself as a christian because there are so many different teachings (40,000+ denominations at this point), most of which claim that the Law of God was nailed to the cross so we don't need it. If we don't have His Law, then we are forced to follow our own or someone else's instead. It's always been significant in my mind that the satanic bible says to do as you will, and that's the entirety of the law. In both the old and new testaments, it says very clearly that those who love Him will keep His commands. Those who hate Him don't. The falling away has been going on for quite some time now..there truly are very few who actually follow Him anymore. It's heartbreaking to witness, and very difficult to live through. People who are to be my brothers and sisters look down on me for keeping the Sabbath and His Feasts..but they will celebrate festivals rooted in paganism as if they were about Jesus, and have trunk or treat on halloween..there's a church in my area teaching yoga and having beer worship nights. I stay in prayer for them all across the earth..may the Truth be spoken and His Light shine over this world of darkness 😞🙌
Agreed.
@@AimeeHope89 Please search for the Orthodox Church, not because I am in it and I want converts but because it sounds like what you are looking for: a church with continuity with the Old and New Testaments, history, which preserves the traditions while remembering the spirit which should accompany them, without innovating like the Catholic Church or becoming rigid like the Pharisees. I am in the Coptic Orthodox Church and my priest observes the Sabbath from Friday to Saturday night. Pray for us because we have problems, but I hope you find what you are looking for.
The scriptures existed for 300 years before orthodox Roman Catholicism. That’s where the truth of Christianity is. Sola scriptura.
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Amen🎉
Ms. Schreck is a talented artist and musician and an unbelievably empathetic woman-I’m glad she’s found a measure of peace and clarity after such an uncanny and gaslit childhood
Please, she’s as narcissistic as her dear old daddy and mommy!
@@hauntedireland9237 Wow, a compelling argument you made there. 👏
@@richlisola1 I can grow a brain for, you infernal scourge!
100 percent
She does not use Schreck at all anymore, she just goes by Zeena.
Zeena is a beautiful woman. I’m Christian faith but I have heard stories from ex Satanists. Zeena has lived a full life and I find it sweet she’s protecting animals too. We can’t help what family we are born into or what our parents do. We can only choose our own path
She is a vixen! Be very careful.
So true 😔
Yes. With all due respect with Dr. Peterson, I would have appreciated a discussion of what LaVey actually believed- or at least of what Zeena believed Anton actually believed- front loaded into this discussion to properly contextualize what comes afterwards. She describes it as a psuedo-religion, a carnival act, and a high-society cocktail party, which are true but inadequate descriptors. It’s worth noting that membership in fraternal orders and “secret societies” was also common for men of the time, even if all they conspired to do was to go bowling on the weekends (even Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble were members of a secret society!) What I’ve read from Zeena in the past is that she believes _her father believed_ he was merely pantomiming Satanism- he was a LARPer, to use the modern parlance- when in fact he was messing with very real and very dark forces. What this means in the context of Zeena’s present beliefs- and peeling back the onion layers of what was believed to be hokum, what was believed to be real, and what is actually real- would have been the prerequisite discussion for me.
Sounds like the sons of satan, no?
Yes..this is word salad...saying nothing of truth
Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life. Without The Way there is no going, without The Truth there is no knowing, without The Life there is no living 🙏🙏🙏
Amen I just gave this scripture as well ❤
Amen!!! 👏👏👏
sounds like a statement without evidence. Ok.
Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1.
No man cometh to the FATHER, BUT By ME John 14:6
I personally knew Anton and Zeena. I'm glad she has found some path that is peaceful. Life changes us all whether we want it to or not.
One of the most fascinating conversations I've watched in years. I remember Zeena from many years ago when she was still active in her father's church. I'm so happy to see her liberated and joyful. ♥️♥️♥️
These minion level 'breaking free' satanists who obviosuly still work for the land stealing highest order of satanists(seeds of perdition/war-like, multitrillionaires), will never say 'Creator of all creation and things true Son Tree of life's nature way is how Creator intended His human being children thru His Son way to live and love one another, under His real natural laws of love and kindness, sharing mother earth and all medicine she offers like family does together from good heart-mind connection up to Creator's way only(NOT $$$ false way). How come they don't ever say openly about TREE OF LIFE'S RETURN(Revelation22 the ending) is happening presently????????
Idk what it is exactly about Zeena, but she absolutely exudes intelligence and thoughtfulness in the way she speaks and recounts the history of the religion and her family. Her intellect combined with Dr. Peterson’s makes this a fascinating interview.
She was already intelligent and then she had to rebuild herself from the ground up. Those two things together would do it.
I feel like she is saying a lot without communicating much. I wanted to know about some of the stuff she knew as an insider. I learned she is a Buddhist and her parents were narcissists/psychos. Most of the whole interview is her repeating she was branded and cant escape her past. Yawn.
She didnt say much
I was extremely disappointed as an analytical guy that she consistently stayed on the edge and Peterson didn't want to push her. I didn't like her aura.
@@UnknownUnknown-tu3be- Exactly. She was saying some kooky things too - at one point even said that her gma didn't divorce her g-father til after he was dead...what?? How do you and why would you - divorce someone if they're dead?? He is controlled opp for the far R puppet masters and few ppl are awake to this. He just let her take over his interview. He had no control and there was real friction and tension here in a talk that should have been a pro interview based on the exchange of Q and A in a dialogue-driven manner. But JP is owned by the idiot slaves who own them at Daily Wire - Conservative INC.
Let's not forget these are controlled ppl trying to control a narrative that was really made to do damage control for the church of Satan - to whitewash them and make them not sound so 'evil', so the title was absolute BS click bait. They lazily satisfied the dumbed-down masses who don't do their own research or have any real curiosity. Can't believe how ppl didn't catch how they both referenced the McMartin preschool kids who were raped - and denied it!
All b/c Satanists were to blame - and they were the ones who molested the kids! Anyone who researches that case for real knows this fact! But JP almost got sent to a 'deprogramming camp' in Canada for standing up for his freedom of speech, (which he should have done but that is not the point) so he plays along instead as a good lil shill and does what his puppet masters tell him to do online now. Ironically he speaks of LeVey as a circus performer but Peterson plays the role of 'fixer' and 'damage controller' for the elite Satanists who run this world. He performs as their dutiful puppet as he also at the same time, blames them for their narcissism. This way, no one will suspect he is an accomplice of sorts doing their dirty work for them in the media like this.
But he too is a kind of narcissist who virtue signals to cover it up. He's very talented at covering up the cover up's! To me, he may as well be in a 're-education camp' as to be this kind of liar! Denying the events of when INNOCENT CHILDREN get raped is worse than denying the Holocaust! This is desperate, dastardly and spineless cowardice beyond belief and beyond acceptance!!!!! Anyone who follows or is a fan of JP after this is either insane or very naive -- or both.
Zeena if you happen to read this,It is a blessing to see you and see how beautiful you have flourished ❤ Thank you for your bravery 🙏🏻
I love how she actually tells us about her life so nicely some people are so rude on your show and it makes me mad.
Grow up miss nicey nice..
Its truth thats important..not being nice.
Says who? who TAUGHT you that dumb idea you now repeat like some chatty parrot. What is truth? Please, enlight us, you sure have such profound thoughts. Can'tvwait to read you@@user-bg8cw8sp7w
Sometimes soft spoken person on the surface with sweet Demeanour can be the evil one. And the rough spoken brawlic person is actually the good guy. Don’t fall for surface level nonsense. It’s the content and character that matters. Always judge on actions, not words
Funny, I have watched almost all of his interviews and cannot place any one of them as particularly rude. Maybe some perspectives bristle you, but that is how you and I grow. Keep listening, I'll bet you will grow more if you remain open and seek truth over personal pride.
I like how he’s actually letting her talk. 🤷♀️
We are not all there is, Evil and Good are not concepts, prayer works, Christ is King.
Not concepts? Then what are they?
@@canUfeelMYfaceThey are physical realities. Objective reality
@@deathbeforeslavery3582 I don't know why you thought I was asking you.
@@canUfeelMYface they are the literal definition of two very real, very prevalent forces enacting upon us in our daily lives incognito.These aren’t literary abstractions. All of us know the difference instinctively….
Assign any title you wish, but it all comes down to
God and Satan
What side are you on?
@@darthnihilus511 Thank you for explaining.
Zeena’s eyes do not have the peace and joy that only Christ can give. Thanks for presenting this.
Very astute. I agree. The only (true) peace a person can have in life, is the person who knows Christ and has a personal relationship with Him.
Oh, you mean like Dr. Peterson's eyes?
Are they full of "peace" and "joy"? 🙄
Little does she know that she's still worshipping Satan, just via a different route.
I agree fuck Buddha
Please don’t judge. Some of us introverts just have that countenance, and it’s hurtful to be imposed upon that we don’t check all the inspection boxes.
Holy shit Jordan and Zeena? Am I in a simulation? This is unbelievable. I’m speechless. Thank god I’m alive.
Really shocked by this myself!
Absolutely fascinating
I'm also very happy to listen to this.
The Hemet-Neter Tepi Seth speaks!
David Tibet and Diamanda Galas are contributors, also.
May God bless JP with strength and continuous wisdom, the world needs him.
Christ is the King of Kings. He is The Truth The Light and The Way. I will pray for her that she finds Him..
No christ has ever existed.
Npc , zombie, troll army
@@W45P.😂 whatever helps you sleep at night buddy
For ALL four of you ...we simply do not know at this point. The certainty with which all of you hold your ground is on very shakey ground. The strongest link we have as to what is spiritually relevant on planet earth is near/actual death experiences. The average of ALL of those accounts ever told would be the strongest indicator of who God is , and what is expected of human beings spiritually
@@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457
A nervoussystem collapsing and nothing at all then.
Notice the 45 degree angles of Zeena, there's a cross to her right out the window. Call it what you want but God is always with her, nudging her to his light.
"The catastrophic underbelly of immature hedonism"
Perfectly stated, JP
And boatloads of infantile grandiosity and selfishness.
Describes Kamala Harris
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
John 14:6
Amen. ❤ praying for her
I apologize for shattering your illusions, Slave, but Lord Jesus DIED a couple of millennia ago. 🙄
First of all, Mr. Deluded Religionist, there is no TANGIBLE evidence for the claim that Lord Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to some mythical place called “Heaven”.
Words in a book can not prove anything that has occurred in the phenomenal sphere.
Words, at best, can only prove abstract concepts. 🤓
Secondly, even if He did, in fact, rise after one and a half days, His body was not the same as the one He had at the time of death (assuming what was written in the Gospels is accurate).
In fact, it was SO different, that at least some of His closest disciples were unable to recognize Lord Jesus, even after conversing with their master for several hours.🤔
“After this he appeared in ANOTHER form to two of them, as they were walking into the country.”
Mark 16:12.
And, obviously, a person IS the physical body (plus consciousness).
There is absolutely no evidence of such a thing as a “soul” or a “spirit”.
Amen and Amen!
Amen 🙏
What a survivor! May she come to know Jesus.
why would she wish to re-engage with Christianity, when she has found Buddhism?
@@jockmccormick8573 Because Jesus is the way, the truth and the light.
@@SMacCuUladhNot for everyone.
@@melindaroop1346 - Truth is for everyone.
@@KimSavageand the truth is not Christianity
As a person who suffers from PTSD, thank you for sharing your story. It must be so hard to talk about this trauma. We don’t choose our families. They didn’t deserve her. I can’t imagine having to find myself coming from this dark place. Praying for you 🙏
I am praying for Zeena, also. All things work together for good for The Good Lord and His people. ✝️
Demons are very deceptive. She doesn’t know she’s still being deceived.. without Jesus your soul will never be at peace regardless of the illusion Buddha has brought her. Rebuke those demons in Jesus name
@@danerasmussen6468 take a look at my comment toward the top. I was a Buddhist for 14 years before Jesus called me back.
Absolutely!! Your comment resonates with mine.
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?
Here you go create another fable, you wanted to
Grab a brush and put a little make-up, you wanted to
Hide the scars to fade away the shake-up, you wanted to
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to
I don't think you trust
In my self-righteous suicide
I cry when angels deserve to die
Wake up (wake up)
What a load of tosh.
Even with Christian denominations each denomination tells each other they’re being deceived to join their club because it’s the truth there’s no winning ever
Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Matthew 11:28
Good Girl! 👌
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
Kinda weird how accepting that 90+% of humanity will burn forever is something that brings you "rest." That burden is only "light" if you are a sociopath. Says something rather unflattering about your character if you are willing to accept such a horrific fantasy just to alleviate a petty existential crisis.
@@somexp12 That verse absolutely does not say that. I would suggest reading that in context for yourself. I am all for healthy debates but knocking down a strawman does no one any favour. What brings rest is Christ, not the acceptance of some idea of hell that you propose. The burden is light because of who is on the other end of the yoke, which is Christ, not because of, again, some conception of hell. You seem to have a distaste for a caricature of Christianity. If you're going to criticise, please do yourselves the dignity of criticising the genuine article.
@@somexp12 I agree with you that this is an evil thing and I DO NOT accept that lie from the devil. Our view of God and His character has been so warped that we are blinded when reading scripture. It’s not until we read the red letters of Jesus that we see love and who our Heavenly Father really is. He loved us since the beginning and His love for us has not changed . We did. Truth will set you free.
God only wants to destroy the lies satan makes us believe about him and the old person we were when we believed satans
Lies.
Sin did not change God.
Sin did not change Gods love for us.
Sin changed us.
Sin changed our belief, faith, love and trust in God.
Jesus HEALS our hearts and leads us back to the Father by showing us his Love for us.
The red letters in the story of Jesus will show you Our Father and his Love.
We have forgotten how to Love because we have forgotten our Heavenly Father.
Yet He still Loves us. It’s hard to believe and understand how can He still Loves us despite what we’ve done in our lives but that’s who he is. God is LOVE.
We think others need to earn our love, deserve our love…and we think God is the same way, we have to earn/ deserve His Love, but he loved us since the beginning and His Love for us has NOT changed.
No amount of Good works will make Him love us more.
No amount of bad we HAVE done will make Him Love us LESS.
The Good things we do, we do because we Love Him not because we think he will Love us more.
7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
1 Corinthians 13:4-7
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
2Co 3:14-16: “But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away”.
1 John 4:18
“There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment/punishment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.”
2 Timothy 1:7
“For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.”
Hebrews 2:14-15
“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.”
Romans 8:14-15
“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.”
John 8:12
“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
1 John 1:5
“This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.”
Proverbs 4:19
“The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.”
Acts 26:18
“To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”
1 John 2:9
“He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.”
2 Corinthians 6:14
“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”
Job 10:22
“A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness.”
1 John 1:6
“If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:”
Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
"The 70s were where the 60s went to die." Great line. :)
Also not original
True
Paul what are your feelings about this? It feels very odd. In particular her mention early of love for her father, then correcting herself and fear of losing her child, yet very little was said of the child. I get why Jordan wouldn't go there, I assume its again an offspring of her spiritual molestation. But she avoided it entirely. And she still carries the wolf guy's name. (hope you cover the dailywire, won't watch it)
Yeah it’s pretty telling of our nature how quickly the “free love” thing turned into completely being slaves to our lust and we’re still suffering the consequences and probably always will, kind of a Pandora’s box situation
I love you🩷I love you🩷I love you🩷
Mcmartin preschool case was legit, on the compassion point if you have more or even as much “compassion” and “love” for a complete stranger as you have for your own blood you’re a pretty shitty brother/father sister/mother, God comes first then family then community then nation in that order, that’s the proper order of things and if you’re putting strangers/foreigners above that order you’re priorities are messed up
"I'm not shy. I have nothing to say to you."
As an introverted male, that is how I felt all the time growing up. Haha.
That’s how I am today. I have a lot to say to certain people. Other people, not much at all.
I think this is the first time I’ve seen Dr Peterson just have to listen because Zeena knows herself so well. Her understanding of what has made her the woman she is, was so insightful. A truly remarkable individual, and a truly remarkable interview.
Check out his interview with Mary Harrington too.
Seeing THIS woman, and remembering the girl with HEAVY makeup, oozing pride, confidemce, and defiance, even before she spoke a singke word, broke my heart, and it all became immediately obvious what was going on. He got me. I feel VERY sorry for her, and it would be a miracle if somehow she found Christianity. We will pray for her.
Oh Lord Jesus... help Zeena find you in this cold and dark world! AMEN!!!!
Pray for her deliverance. We are all sinners
Would be unfortunate if she jumped from one abusive cult to one that's even worse.
❤❤❤🙏
@@somexp12?
@@jrr570 What do you think "deliverance" means? You don't get "delivered" without joining a certain highly destructive cult.
She's Buddhist, she doesn't have to convert
Gratitude to our host for creating the space for this discussion. Abundant gratitude to Zeena for courageously sharing her story. Having escaped a 70s-cult-soaked-family myself, my heart joins with Zeena in the message that one can choose to leave and live the life of one's choosing.
Dr. Peterson, you weren't kidding when you said at the end that you barely scratched the surface. I could have watched this for another 2 hours. Excellent interview!! Thanks to both of you. What an incredibly sad but interesting life story you had Ms Zeena Schreck. Thank you for sharing. God bless you. ❤🙏
I felt the same
Moral of the story: Your PARENT’S religion is not YOUR religion.
My mom baptized us when we were babies and now that we're grown,she doesn't even believe in Christ or the existence of good and evil anymore. 😑😔😭
@@Tropicalpisces well at least she finally came around. My parents and siblings are hardcore Christians and they treat me a bit differently because I chose my own path. It’s almost like they think they’re better than me or that they feel sorry for me or something lol
@@hieronymusx8111hmm. I am Ortodox Cristian. My kids and I are going to Church almost every Sunday. They take parts in Liturgy . I hold our four lents and i try to read my morning and evening prayrs. I do not see me or my kids better then my neighbors who doesnt go to Church. My mom , like me, is Ortodox, we are baptized like baby, she doesnt do all other things that Iam doing and one time she said the exact same thing. It feels like you are better then us, who dont do this. I was soo surprised by this statment. I told her, no mom, i am not. I know how Big sinner I am, and i felt Jesus love , i know how much he loves us unconditionaly. That is devillplaying with you. Belive me, no good Cristian, who truly belives in God snd Jesus Christ will think thst he is somehow better then others. Our role model should be Jesus, and compare to him….. well, we are …. I dont know, but durely not better then other persons . God bless you and sorry for my bed english, not my first lenguage. God loves us all.
I feel
Like she’s downplaying the seriousness of what her father did. I’m not all the way through it yet
Both of them are down playing it. And Peterson dismissed the SA at mcmartin preschool. 🚩 🚩s
@@marianmorleycan you give me more info on that!? Sincerely asking. I’m not a huge Peterson fan, but I don’t dislike him… I just have … questions. Would really love to follow up on your claim, I agree that’s a HUGE 🚩
Well there may have been few who have wrongfully been accused of things, however, the "satanic panic" was definitely a psy-op of the so called elite. SRA, human sacrifice and horrors overall of satanism are real and it was and is something to be very concerned about. Research the horrors of SRA survivors for starters.
If you look up the FBI files on "The Finders", there was a random map in the middle of 100's of pages of documents that was a blueprint of the schools underground tunnels. Hardly anyone saw it.
@Mojojojo85757 please research the deep investigations of Ted Gunderson
Zeena knows full-well that Satan is a real being. There’s testimony’s of seeing her at rituals and practicing these things
Exactly 💯
Knows 'full well'
This is just a whitewash of her father. She is still doing PR for them.
@@annab8312 typo autocorrect
If Zeena knows full well Satan is a real being, it would be interesting to hear her have a conversation with Matt Dillahunty on that topic.
She knows Satan is a real being, Matt Dillahunty says Satan never existed.
What a really genuine guy Peterson is, a great interview with a very strong woman who has had such a 'more than interesting' life. These sort of interviews are really making Peterson part of the normal daily diet of thought provoking discussions
I’m am admittedly a big fan of JBP but this was an excellent interview. He asked such compelling questions and Zeena did so well. She has clearly done a LOT of work since leaving that chapter of her life. Just look at the comments from this video!!!! Usually the comment section is to be avoided but my goodness!!!! This video has elicited such amazing thoughts and accounts from peoples lives. This is what we all need,… good examples of how to listen, respect, and acknowledge one another.
Zeena - I will pray for your continual growth toward God. God bless you, and thank you for sharing your journey. I will pray for your soul. 🙏
@@Web3WondersUS I pray for her, she has fallen for one of the devils oldest trick. She has chosen a gentle and peaceful path to eternal death in hell.
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?
Here you go create another fable, you wanted to
Grab a brush and put a little make-up, you wanted to
Hide the scars to fade away the shake-up, you wanted to
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to
I don't think you trust
In my self-righteous suicide
I cry when angels deserve to die
Wake up (wake up)
@Nexionlink999 Science has failed our world, science has failed our mother earth. Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reins go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith. Spirit moves through all things.
@@Nexionlink999terrible song lol. imagine thinking system of a down is profound.
@@tiffanyjones892🤣🤣🤣🤣
Zeena articulates herself very well. Thankyou for this. Much more relevant than people would like to admit.
Can I just say THANK YOU to Zeena and Dr. Peterson. There are many aspects of my upbringing, quite negative, directly related to the Satanic Panic. I was sent to a homeless shelter as a teen because I had an Ann Rice book and a heavy metal tape. Was letting demons in the house, you know. This interview is part of my journey and healing as well. THANK YOU both immensely.
“And what’s your relationship to Taylor Swift?” “Do you happen to use gematria to code significant events in your life?”
I love how much she is willing to interject and keep things framed in her experience.
It was evidence of her narcissistic personality. She would not let Jordan Peterson finish a thought without interjections and she refuted Peterson’s psychoanalysis because she wanted control of the conversation.
We have no idea what they each agreed to as far as negotiating this interview. She may be keeping him on a track they agreed to. Or, she may be somewhat of an inadvertent narc just because she was raised by some. It’s not for us to judge.
Just enjoy the conversation guys, that's all it is. Don't try to psychoanalyze either participant.
@@charliedaniels1No lol she wasn't letting him talk over her and define her own experiences. She was making herself clear.
@@charliedaniels1 my impression of her wasn't good either. There's a word or two for her type. I would not want to know her
I met her once in Germany over 10+ year ago. Very kind, very genuine lady. She sounds very stressed in this interview discussing the past, and it reflects the trauma her parents both put upon her and their children. No wonder with two narcissistic and hedonistic parents. Very happy to hear that she is doing well and can reflect on her childhood now with wisdom and insight.
Ironically, I also met her ex-husband Nick Shreck in London about 5 years ago at a speaking event. Very well spoken, kind and gracious. Both just lovely people.
These newspeak modernist cover up terms is not gonna help the people gripped by satan. They need help expelling him, only through Jesus Christ.
Are we sure this is a woman? If I'm wrong I'm sorry, but Zeena looks very much the man trying to be a woman.
That's incredible I always wanted to meet any of them..lol.and veryshocked to hear how negative it was on her,,never would of known
Zeena comes from such a complicated family dynamic. It is so hurtful coming from this horribly toxic environment. So much of her upbringing resonates with me bc my family of origin is so similar.
I’m sorry to hear that. Find peace in Jesus. His yoke is easy and his burden is light.
I highly doubt that.
She’s still doing the work of the enemy…denying the fact of the existence of the devil…and the worship of him being a religion….shutting it off at 20 mins…Christ is king and loves everyone. It is his will that none shall perish.
As a Catholic, I'm concerned for her. She has rejected the devil, but not accepted Christ. This is as Jesus said when he talked about a demon being cast out, wandering the land and then returning to find the house swept, clean and in order. He will return and invite seven more of his friends.
Imagine how traumatized she was, only to go to the inverse? She's probably trying to clear the slate...
God will knock, lets hope she welcomes Him before its too late. So many Souls need to be prayed & fasted for these days
Bl. Bartolo Longo Ora pro nobis❤️🔥
What a good Catholic you are. You should be more concerned about your priest(s) and some allegations you might have heard of.
@@manasseh36Thank you for telling somebody that they may not profess their own beliefs becuase they may not, by your estimation, have more than one single concern. Very logical 😂
Yes everybody knows about all of the accusations about all the priests that have been dead for decades before these accusations came up, but hating on the Catholic Church is what the media does best. The predation rate of priests is still almost 10 times lower vs in the other professtions and 3 times lower than general population rate. It is literally the lowest of all categories, just so you understand how propaganda works.
Imagine if you expressed concern about anything and I just responded with a generic reference of rate of predation in the specific industry you referenced, and told you to concern yourself with that first. Real critical thinking there.
I think you owe this person a genuine apology.
She has accepted a different version of Satan through Buddhism.
All man made religions are anti Yeshua. All of them
@@manasseh36Funny, since CSA is slightly higher among non-Catholic denominations, and ironically, 80x - 100x higher in the secular teaching profession.
Given that, is it Child Predators you hate, or is it actually that you just hate the Church. Because I’m guessing you’re not gonna put the same energy into trolling Teachers. And that says a lot.
I feel so much gratitude for this interview to be taken place in such a profound ethical way. Thank you Dr.Peterson thank you Zeena for the opportunity to experience such interactions. Blessings for both and for the rest of you supporting this platforms.
I have just finished the Daily Wire section and I ended up feeling so much better about Zeena. She has a found joy and peace and healing. She has a beautiful life now. Dr. Peterson so put her at her ease that she lightened up and relaxed and opened up to him. It was absolutely beautiful and I think it was healing for her.
There is only peace through Jesus
@@dianamarie1652Don't speak on things you don't understand or people you don't know. Some of us found true peace through other religions/spiritualities.
@@melindaroop1346 but Iam speaking truth
Her message, her opening statement, is one of hope.
@@melindaroop1346 she is speaking on things that she understands as a person who thought they found peace in other religions until you actually give Christ a try. You will continue to think that chaos and uncertainty is peace.
Either that or your ignorance is bliss , I however, I have worked my way up in all types of theologies until I came back to Christ and gave him an actual try. Did I know that everything else was a lie Or part of the truth and not the truth.
I have to say that I am not a huge Peterson fan and that I find his style of interviewing to be self involved and egocentric. However, this interview was absolutely inspiring and engaging, mostly on Zeena's part, and it is wonderful that we got a chance to see and appreciate her interesting life. Although I found the interview to be interesting in it's entirety, the moment of the interview at the beginning where she states that she hopes that people who are indoctrinated into a certain belief system from a young age have the possibility to essentially reinvent themselves, really moved me. I think she genuinely wants people to heal themselves and that is why she had the strength to delve into her past in such a personal way. What a remarkable woman. She carries a quiet strength that I admire. She even tactfully put Peterson in his place with her observation that she does not like doing interviews where she is interrupted by the interviewer. I just love her.
Really ....not an interview at all....he never shuts up
@@frankesposito2182well he has thoughts too.
I get the distinct feeling she's not telling the whole truth. There are things she's leaving out that dramatically alter her story.
"Reformed" satanists rarely tell the whole truth. They're either scared or they still worship Satan.
Could be.
Not really. That’s just your ego’s need to feel smart talking. You don’t have to be like that
"Reformed" satanists rarely tell the whole truth of their past. Either that are scared or they still worship Satan.
Controlled opposition because of her Taylor Swift connection
Come to the Lord, Zeena. He is waiting.
Amen 🙏🏻 in Jesus Name
☝🏼☝🏼❤
Amen....she is a truth seeker. She will know the truth soon.
This is one of the best interviews this year. Please interview Zeena again. There are almost no intelligent interviews of children of psychopaths. Thank you Zeena for sharing your story so honestly.
She has great emotional intelligence as well.
Agreed, this felt almost too short
She’s a psychopath herself you’re just too idiotic to realise!
Agree, I would like to ask her why, although she says she have abandoned satanism, in her store she sells a t-shirt ('The Original') with a photo of herself with baphomet in the background. It seems as if she hasn't really left all the past behind, which I've generally seen people do when they leave satanism and no longer want to have anything to do with it by throwing away any photos, materials or references to it. So I was a little perplexed when I saw this shirt for sale on her website.
@@joeler1182 because she’s a liar, the progeny of the father of lies. Not her earth-bound pops… her everlasting one. So so many blatant lies and still diabolical utterings from this one. Dia (the Latin to ‘rend’) and boline (the Latin for ‘apart’)… so to be Diaboline, or diabolical means to literally tear apart all that good. That’s this chick to a gold-plated tee… I say ‘plated’, mind you… and I mean it. Brassy as that hair
She sacrificed her son. Cursed the name Lavey, which he carried, then abandoned him. Not great. He was 13-14 years old. Stanton died young.
That's when you're a true Satanist when you sacrifice a child all these other people saying they were in the satanic church but didn't see or do any of that were just larping pawns
I'm curious about that part of her last as well. Stanton became a druggy and he and his girlfriend were convicted of sexual assault against a woman from what I remember. Stanton died of an OD a few years back, a sad, wasted life.
My suspicion though it would require Zeena speaking on it as well as corroborate from anyone still around who knew Anton, Stanton, and Zeena and can speak honestly, that Stanton was likely a product of incest.
The clues are there if you read about Zeena. Doesn't excuse her decision, but the abandonment of her son is made understandable if these were the circumstances of his birth. Zeena wouldn't have needed to curse her son for him to be cursed in a way if that was his origin.
RIP to Stanton.
@LivingInTheKaliYogurt I've wondered about that myself, but my gut tells me he was not. Somehow I think Zeena would have come out about something like this if it were true, especially after having separated herself from the family and COS. I wish her nothing but the best, but the Stanton issue is concerning and I'd like to hear her side of the story.
I never expected Zeena to be interviewed by Peterson!
Controlled opposition
@@katjay3125 No need to introduce yourself.
Unlike zeena I will walk with Lucifer until the day that I die
@@Candylady-jb6md ... which is fast approaching. Open your eyes before it's too late.
@@HiHoSilvey My eyes are already open my third is too I have found peace in witchcraft I'm proud to be a witch and if I have to burn at the stake then burn me
Smart that she went no contact from her father. She finally “got it” and disconnected. She had an undeserved loyalty to her father. A loyalty that he never deserved or earned. John Bradshaw called it a fantasy bond with a parent that needs to be broken. It is a bond based on what u think ur parent is when that is not who they really are.
She also abandoned her own son Stanton, to be raised by his grandparents, Anton and Diane.. she was a young mother, there was always gossip that Anton was the father of his grandson .. i knew Stanton, zeenas son.. she abused and abandoned her own son and left him to be raised by his grandparents.. the same people shes now accusing of abusing her!
@@izzydeadyet7336that’s normal everywhere when your young with child. “ it’s not just her case “ that’s all over the world. You call it abandonment. It’s more “ immature”. “ unprepared “. That’s normal all over the world. All over the world
@@izzydeadyet7336 No he passed away
@@izzydeadyet7336
In all fairness to her...
Zeena was very young
when she had Stanton
and... tbh... she was never ready
or prepared to be a mother.
For all of his faults & deceptions
as a Carni-showman and a huckster...
Anton LeVey at least appears
to have been a halfway decent
grandfather to his grandson, Stanton
(perhaps Anton saw, felt or otherwise
knew of his shortcomings & failures
as a father and at least tried to
make up for it by being a good
grandfather... or at least a better one).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
but didn't Stanton's grandmother
(Zeena's mom, Diane Hegarty)...
pass away not long after her grandson??
Also, and now that I think on it...
who was Stanton's biological father??
Was it that police officer that
Zeena mentions earlier in
the interview??
Thanks in advance💯
Well spoken. I think the same is true about an abusive ex.
This should be interesting ❤I just heard the most amazing story about her sister's redemption and something I never knew about her father's death. I hope Zeena also comes to know Yeshua🙏❤🙌🙌🙌God is amazing!
haven't heard about Karla, Karla saved?
That interview that is floating around on many channels is false. I emailed Zeena and one of her assistants that schedules her interviews promised me this is not a true family member of Anton Levay. I also know that pastor and his family. And that woman DJ/Rey Rey Still practices magic. And her daughter is a satanic artist. There are some major lies coming out of that church Glad Tidings. Dave Bryan is a Freema$on.
Karla gave an talk supporting satanism in oct 2023. Where you hear she christian now. I not think it true
@@HiddenInPlainSight386Ray Ray. She now goes by Debra Joy Bryan.
🔥🔥🔥 JESUS CHRIST IS KING OF KINGS!!! REPENT FROM SATANISM!!! I REBUKE AND RENOUNCE SATANISM IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!! 💯💯
Wow. Thirty years ago I carried the Satanic Bible with me everywhere went. Now, I go to Christian church. Things change. Shift. Life is fascinating.
Welcome back to the side of life, love, and hope. Genuinely, congrats to you!
I've never gotten into Satanism. Even when I was an atheist, it always seemed like a community of weirdos, freaks, and psychopaths.
@@juanangelmontemayor7889 Thank you so much. I'm grateful to be here.
Absolutely, I had a time where I was agnostic and I heard of zeena and it made me change how I seen everything, but I have went back to Christ ❤
You must have an incredible testimony. Praise Jesus ❤
If Zeena reads this, just know, you are being prayed for. Christ is calling you. Anton, your father, you know how he passed into eternity, you know that God cut his silver cord when he was astral projecting Halloween of 1997. You know that Jesus is real and He loves you. I pray that you come to Christ and become born again. He will give you life,.. and that is something satan will never give you.
I guess one day she will have a real story to tell. Because if what Pastor Dave Bryan said is true, then Zeena would of had to Astral Project from Germany to get into Deborah Joy's body as he claims that he encountered her thru Deborah after Anton died. I was a freshman in college at Oral Roberts University in 97 when i wrote a paper on Satanism and reached out to Zeena by email. She was living in Germany then. Pastor Dave makes it sound like Zeena was still in the picture. Im sorry but there are holes in his story. That story he gave about traveling 110 miles an hour on the highway before encountering a dark demon that controlled an Indian Reservation. He said that the Lord warned him of the demon but the Lord didn't warn him that he should probably slow down. So he is going 110 in a van full of people and the spirit makes all the doors fly open and NO wreck? What an Angel prevented a wreck at reckless speeds to begin with?
He (PDB) also claims that Anton put a tendon into Deborah Joy to gain control over her. IF she was already blood of his blood and flesh of his flesh, WHY would he need to do that? She already had his DNA inside of her???
HOLES
AMEN!!!! 😢🙏🏾 ♥️
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The death of LaVey at the hands of a priest after saving her daughter is a made-up story with zero foundations. There exist no records of Anton LaVey having a third daughter anywhere, let alone any family members that converted to Christianity. Astral Projection is also simply not a practice in Satanism.
Remember that anyone who has a mouth talks, and there are certain amounts of fame one could ride by claiming to end the life of the most notorious Satanist. I would suggest being more skeptical and doing more research
This is a very rude and typically “evangelical” empty comment. You have absolutely no idea how Our Lord’s rich mercy works nor do you understand anything about Christianity. Your statements are anything but Christian. Hopefully you come to understand true Orthodoxy if you know what that means. If you know, you know…if you don’t know then you don’t know. Our Lord loves and saved all men. However, theosis.
I'm a Christian, but I have really enjoyed this discussion. I look forward to the follow up. Zeena, you are very courageous!
she has a hard time staying on-topic
lol many of us are Christians and enjoy this discussion. Nothing to shy about
so did I hope she has clurage to speak more
@@robertgallagher2226 I suspect it is because she has so much to share and a short amount of time to say it.
I'm very impressed with Ms. Schreck, a very intelligent person with a very observant mind. I liked what she brought to the table, an insight into the CofS that I never knew existed. Thank you to both of you for not just sitting down together, but for also allowing us to come along. I'll be praying for both of you!!
17:18 and I feel like she STILL lying and protecting her dad. I pray she will finally see the truth and face the truth.. Zeena - Jesus loves u so much. He is waiting to you. He is the only father u need. ✝️❤️ I’m sorry church people have hurt u before, it’s WRONG, but I know you know there are good fallowers of Christ who love u. You know Gods power is the greatest. Please humble yourself and surrender to him. ❤ love you!
judgmentcallpodcast covers this. Satanism: Fear, Manipulation, Suffering explained.
I've watched '50 voices' first, with horrific testimonies. Now come across this video. Seems darkness is coming to light. No room for evil in this world anymore. Love and peace.
Zeena seems like a genuine and clear person. Very interesting discussion.
My heart breaks for Zeena. To have experienced rejection from her parents and hostility from the Christian church - the one place she should have found compassion - no wonder she's resorted to Buddhism.
We can only pray the real Jesus reaches her in her journey towards enlightenment.
THE Zeena Schreck? I dont usually dabble in JP content but I will be sitting down to watch this. Im so excited to hear from Zeena.
Me too, I strongly disagree with Peterson, most often than not, and I think I know why he is platforming her of all people. But nonetheless Zeena is such an interesting individual that you wonder what she is going to answer. I love how she gently and politely dismantles some of the assumptions Peterson tries to establish in the intro, beginning by Satanists are not all "let loose" hippie kinda people. And I've only begun watching. Glad Peterson's fandom gets exposed to her.
The average woman doesn’t have the intelligence to comprehend most JP content. It’s up to you to change that going forward.
@@OpsReitiawhat would you possibly have to be opposed to Peterson ? He makes perfect logical sense about %98 of the time. His out look on most topics are observations that are based in fact anyone can see. He never goes off feelings or frivolous thoughts. You make no sense
@@OpsReitiawell don’t forget that she had a choice whether or not to be “platformed” by him. And if you’re so against so much of what he says, you’re only furthering his agenda by viewing and commenting … but I digress. Clearly you must watch him enough to know how much of his rhetoric you do and don’t agree with.
Wonderful woman. I'm going through the worst time of my life right now. And I'm lost, but as Zeena said, being lost can be a great blessing. It hurts, but it shows me the truth about myself. May God keep her in His care and our Holy Mother Mary protect her always 🙏🏻
Jesus said that he has come to seek and to save the lost! If you've repented of your sins to Jesus Christ and walk in relationship with him daily call Ma he has been forgiven your sins and you are on his path through the gates of heaven. Claim Jesus because he is the savior, he is yours and my savior.
@@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord It's not that simple, not so fast. There is also penance, compensation for evil and fasting. There is still purgatory and suffering. But its all for good.
CATHOLICS talk to dead spirits,read ur bible, about talking to the the dead ,rebellion is witchcraft 😮
@@user-rd1nu3fz5n Sure, but what does this have to do with what I wrote?
@user-rd1nu3fz5n WRONG!!! Catholics create a circle of prayer with people who live forever in heaven and are alive in Christ!
Fascinating conversation. Fascinating what was said and what was left unsaid. Dr. Peterson asked open ended questions skillfully. 1:50:41
I'm not even fifteen minutes into this and LeVays own daughter admits that he was anti hippie, anti occultist and very much part of the "establishment". Very interesting to say the least.
A friend of the police and a con-artist. Yeah, this checks out.
This morning, I fell asleep while watching this interview and had a spiritual attack during my sleep. It was a figure in black clothes approaching and tried hard to scream out the name of Jesus. When I finally managed to pronounce the name of Jesus, the scene disappeared in a flash like a television screen switching off, and I woke up and made a prayer to cast out evil spirits. The time was just after 4 am.
Jesus Christ name is powerful!!! ❤️
The name of Jesus IS ALL POWER. ✝️❤
That’s a night terror. Hopefully that’s the only one you have. Jesus pulls people out of them guaranteed. There’s a group on FB where people who struggle with night terrors talk about this.
One can understand why you would have such an attack. While Zeena has gained understanding and some wisdom, she is still in darkness and great bondage, still hating the Creator and his Son. She has substituted the worship of one demon for another. May the Lord Jesus protect you and give you peace and joy.
So glad I didn’t watched the whole interview, because my husband and I didn’t feel right when we listened to them.
I hate that she had such negative experiences with the church and I pray she understands that not all Christians are that way and she finds Christ. That would be a real miracle of God. ❤
simply saying you hope she finds christ is part of the reason people hate religious people.
@@wretchedrabbit that’s fine. I hope you find Christ as well. ❤️
@@wretchedrabbit if I ever met this woman, I would do more than pray for her. I would share the gospel with her. But since I’ll never come in contact with her, all I can do is pray that she will encounter someone who will share it with her.
@@heathergreenakers she probably knows more about your religion than you do
@@wretchedrabbit perhaps she does….
This is a silly thing, but I can't stop looking at her hands. She makes so many different symbolic hand gestures. I don't think it is even intentional, and I'm not judging her.
I am impressed with how well spoken she is.
Thank you Dr.Peterson for brining her on.
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So does Peterson 👍👍
Can you give me one example and a time stamp?
@jonp3890 I will Def go re watch and time stamp.
I noticed the thumb to index finger, making a circle with the other fingers extended.
I also noticed the thumb under the index finger (it makes a cross )
Again, right off the top of my head, don't have a time stamp. Will try and snag one and put in down in the comments. Thank you for the suggestion!
@staceyjayneplatt9527 yes! He does! Very dramatic with his hand motions. I just felt like her hand motions contained symbolic gestures.
I could be totally wrong. It was just an observation
I'd like to see John Remirez and Zeena have a sit down
Satan isn't going to present himself thru a clown act. It will come shiny and wonderful void of sound doctrine. Think Lakewood Church in Houston/Joel Osteen or Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis and other hucksters.. No talk of repentance, no talk of Christ's atoning death and lots of talk about self worth and prosperity.
He isn’t real dude
@@1984isnotamanualKenneth Copeland is.
@@1984isnotamanual satan is not, but the “ father of lies, devil” is.
Satan is a bad characterization of the boogey man.
But before humans could even exist, there already was present another entity (and cohorts) on these lands. Mamon, Father of Lies, Legion, Devil.
Get to know the distinction, so many believe its the same thing.
@@Razzaq585 I know that Satan has different origins and means different things even within the Bible. It’s mythology. It’s humans trying to explain things before science. Like why do kids get cancer and why are people evil and all that.
Think Donald Trump? All these reverse TDS tards acting like he's the savior.
She is still so broken and it must be hard to do these interviews. She has survived so much. Lavey was not just an author, he was an evil man to his core.
I pray she finds the Lord and eternal peace 🙏 🙏
I respect your sentiments but I don't think you need to find the Lord to find peace. I was brought up in a toxic Christian environment & I've found much more peace in agnosticism & eastern religions. Toxicity can be found in many religious sects as well.
@@Tified967I respect your sentiments too but your opinion is not fact. The Bible is true and Jesus is real. You will either believe that or not, that is your choice, but there is an eternal price to pay if you reject Christ. Said in truth and love 🙏🏻
@@Tified967I guess that appeal of agnosticism and eastern religions is that there is no moral absolutes and no punishment for doing whatever you wish, that's basically Crowley's satanism.
You can be all tatted up and pierced, have sex with whoever you want, feel special about yourself and be egotistical and celebrated instead of shamed for it, as you should be.
@@KJVkatie77 And considering Jordan refuses to even say he believes in the physical resurrection, he surely will be paying that price. Odd then that you're watching a channel of someone the church would have absolutely labelled a heretic not too long ago for his purely symbolic approach.
I honestly don’t think he was evil to the core. Just a flawed man. Had narcissism and was a manipulative egomaniac. His entire philosophy was there to justify his ego.
He actually did have real human emotions. He really did love his family and close friends.
His “fan club” was a means to an end. He didn’t care about anyone he didn’t personally know.
His version of Satanism was if you took Ayn Rands philosophy and added Halloween ascetic to it. It’s all show. He liked the image.
With a label like “satanism” it attracted all sorts of weirdos. The core philosophy was basically objectivism though.
What darkness she has been immersed in since childhood. Wow. How difficult to rise from that with hope.
Thank you Dr. Peterson for your time and dedication as well. I find your interviews exciting and expanding. Zeena Schreck thank you for this interview with Dr. Peterson. I didn't know who you were nor anything about the Satanism church until this interview. What i am trying to say Zeena is you did inspire hope in me. I appreciate both of you and all that you do.
sincerely,
Cal Hughes