So from this review, my takeaway is that for any piece of lumber wide enough to fit the track on and to long of a cut to make with the miter saw is easiest done with a maki track saw, unless it's thicker than 4 inches, then you need a cabinetry saw or a bandsaw. If there's that much of a performance difference from 4ah to 8ah, and from 235 to 270mm, then the 270mm saw is using close to the maximum potential of the 8ah battery, which is 2160 watts, or 2 and 15/16th's hp. In other words, this saw, with 375$ in accessories (makita tracks, knock off parallel guides, aws chip) can do 99% of the work of a 4k SawStop (3hp, 52 inch rip fence) and barely squeak in over 1k after tax, with comparable dust extraction and the Makita having anti-kick back tech and the sawstop having hand detection. Sawstop is still the safest, but not by much. I'm disappointed more people don't buy these, I wish Makita made a cabinetry blade for these saws but they won't until there's demand, presumably.
How does the HS009G compare to the 36v version (dhs900)? I know from your testing generally the XGT stuff performs slightly better than the 36v equivalents, but it is not clear if that is just due to the XGT tools being slightly newer designs (e.g. updated motors), or if it is due to the XGT platform being more powerful than the 36v. However, interestingly Makita Japan and UK list both higher power (1800w vs 1600w) and higher rpm (4500rpm vs 4000rpm) for the 36v dhs900 compared to the XGT HS009G. Have you done any comparisons on these two saws? Any thoughts?
If only they made a good 40v table saw.... It's totally missing from the range... Make DeWalt make a very good 60v one, but I have bought into the 40 volt xgt system now...
I think Hikoki/Metabo and Milwaukee have both proven that 18V is plenty for a framing nailer. perhaps higher voltage will reduce wear or something 🤷♂️
Another great review sir, I so so want the xgt 125mm circular saw but it’s not out in the uk yet and it’s out of my price range to import one from Japan 😢
If they sold a corded version I'd be all in. The track compatibility is a no brainer for me. I just don't have the time, patience, or money dealing with the battery entanglement.
Desperately want to know if the 40v 9 1/4 track compatible base will fit on the 36v 9 1/4 saw, any insight would be greatly appreciated! Help a tight arse chippy who doesn’t want to switch platforms out 😂
This track saw will work with half of all track saw manufacturers tracks. Makita, Festool, PowerTec, Wen, Milwaukee, and probably at least 1 more I'm forgetting compatible. If I were getting an XGT track saw I'd get the 10 inch one, it works with the same tracks as well, all makita track saws use this same standard track. Dewalt, Kraig and a couple others use proprietary tracks. These are also compatible with parallel guide rails, which makes this more of a cabinetry tool if you're into that. The 10 inch saw also cuts through 4x4 lumber completely, while the 9 inch doesn't quite make it through as you know if you have it. The 10 inch saw also has more power, which is also nice. It's almost a table saw.
Great videos and really insightful. Currently I'm 18V Makita and have a track. Currently doing some cabinetry etc but like the circular saw option you speak of as they're cheaper and more flexibility. Looking at the 185, am I missing out on anything significant versus the newer 235, or also the more expensive plunge saw? (although 36v plunge also an option). Do Makita plunge saws have less blade play or anything for more precise cuts? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Makita makes a 36v (lxt) 235mm track saw, but according to another commenter the LXT version has a more powerful motor than the XGT 235mm equivalent, but I don't think you'd notice unless you have 4ah batteries on the LXT saw. It's almost a table saw, it can do some things a table saw can't too. (60 degree bevel, ability to cut longer pieces, safer than any table saw except a sawstop). With a track and parallel guide rails for it, this saw is almost a table saw. It can't make cuts on pieces narrower than the track, which is the only time a table saw would make a cut more easily than a the LXT track saw, or if you need that last quarter inch of depth a table saw offers. But you'll also need a plunge cut saw regardless to make plunge cuts that don't have tearout.
Using a left blade saw on a guide rail is awkward as hell. I have the 6-1/2" saw with the guide rail adapter and it's awkward to use especially if you have a guide rail square attached
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Ive only seen the 36v rear handle in person, theres no dust port! No where to extract. But the 40v looks the same over here, no dust port to plug an extractor in. This wouldn't be good for track use.
When we are gonna see review of the impact wrenches? You have them almost a year now and keep teasing them 🙂. Also, is that true that if you remove battery from a tool that is paired with a hoover via aws, it looses connection and you have to pair it again after replacing the battery? Like when battery goes flat and you change it with a charged one, the aws won't work and need pairing again? Seems silly hence asking.
price of the gsh03 $589 and gsh04 $600 here in the states makes the pick easy for $11 more but $600 for circular saw is a bit much. Also note Makita makes a universal adapter to use any vacuum with the AWS
Unfortunately it doesn't work as a relay, so you can't use just any old vacuum. Has to be one with an external trigger lead for a corded tool. It's also stupidly expensive for what it is. The better solution for now is to use a remote control relay system if you intend to use it with a standard shop vac.
I see one obvious reason for releasing them at the same time - being customer friendly company which, in practice, looks like a real thing. I don't know about the customer policy and service they do tho, so it might be funny contravercy.
235mm is , atleast in Belgium, a very very very common size saw that you'll find from every brand over here. It's just a ' known' size that tradespeople know and will have many blades for :) 270mm in comparison is a very rare size over here
Can you do a 40V 165mm vs 184mm video? I've always liked the compactness of 165s and the 40V 165mm has the same depth of cut as the 185mm, so are there any downsides to the 40V 165mm apart from having to import it from Japan?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL hmm not sure, I watched 165 and 185mm reviews again yesterday and I don't remember direct comparison but I might be wrong. It would be nice to see them tested in split screen ripping wood like in this video. Sorry if you have already done that though!
Is it possible to adjust the base plates over slightly to line up with the plunge saws on the guide rail? Plunge saws have that option so no matter what brand of saw you use on a guide rail you can set them all to the same cut line
You’re one of the worst TH-camrs ever, I’m trying to spend my money on Jeep mods and you just keep showing me these tools I want, like that 10 1/4 saw. Keep up the videos man my wallet would be getting heavy without you 😂
So from this review, my takeaway is that for any piece of lumber wide enough to fit the track on and to long of a cut to make with the miter saw is easiest done with a maki track saw, unless it's thicker than 4 inches, then you need a cabinetry saw or a bandsaw. If there's that much of a performance difference from 4ah to 8ah, and from 235 to 270mm, then the 270mm saw is using close to the maximum potential of the 8ah battery, which is 2160 watts, or 2 and 15/16th's hp. In other words, this saw, with 375$ in accessories (makita tracks, knock off parallel guides, aws chip) can do 99% of the work of a 4k SawStop (3hp, 52 inch rip fence) and barely squeak in over 1k after tax, with comparable dust extraction and the Makita having anti-kick back tech and the sawstop having hand detection. Sawstop is still the safest, but not by much. I'm disappointed more people don't buy these, I wish Makita made a cabinetry blade for these saws but they won't until there's demand, presumably.
You are my TH-cam role model for tools you know your s*** thank you for all your information you need a pat on the back
Cheers dude.
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5:50 The camera definitely focuses better on the 270mm, so clear win for the 270mm 😎
How does the HS009G compare to the 36v version (dhs900)?
I know from your testing generally the XGT stuff performs slightly better than the 36v equivalents, but it is not clear if that is just due to the XGT tools being slightly newer designs (e.g. updated motors), or if it is due to the XGT platform being more powerful than the 36v.
However, interestingly Makita Japan and UK list both higher power (1800w vs 1600w) and higher rpm (4500rpm vs 4000rpm) for the 36v dhs900 compared to the XGT HS009G.
Have you done any comparisons on these two saws? Any thoughts?
Yaay, new makita circ saw review :)
Now I've done them all!
Finally :D now we are waiting for the jigsaw right?
And a ton of other stuff...
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL oh yeah :)
If only they made a good 40v table saw....
It's totally missing from the range... Make DeWalt make a very good 60v one, but I have bought into the 40 volt xgt system now...
it's coming.
The 270mm is $600, but the 235mm is $470 in the US... As much as I want the bigger size, that cost difference hurts.
40v framing nailer 90mm
Come on Makita this will swap everyone to the platform
I think Hikoki/Metabo and Milwaukee have both proven that 18V is plenty for a framing nailer. perhaps higher voltage will reduce wear or something 🤷♂️
Is it possible to put a different base on the DRS780/XSR01 to use with a track?
I was wondering can you see the cut line from the left when cutting like normal 7 1/4 saw to follow line Or does 10 1/4 blade interfere.
Another great review sir, I so so want the xgt 125mm circular saw but it’s not out in the uk yet and it’s out of my price range to import one from Japan 😢
I ordered one was free international shipping really didn't cost me much more then I would pay from tool store.
It's an awesome saw.
If they sold a corded version I'd be all in. The track compatibility is a no brainer for me. I just don't have the time, patience, or money dealing with the battery entanglement.
No it's cords that get entangled...
Unmatched value for features. This is future of circ saws
Great review, testing! Hi from Romania, land of Dracula! 😉
Ryobi 40v Earth Auger vs the Makita.
Desperately want to know if the 40v 9 1/4 track compatible base will fit on the 36v 9 1/4 saw, any insight would be greatly appreciated! Help a tight arse chippy who doesn’t want to switch platforms out 😂
This track saw will work with half of all track saw manufacturers tracks. Makita, Festool, PowerTec, Wen, Milwaukee, and probably at least 1 more I'm forgetting compatible. If I were getting an XGT track saw I'd get the 10 inch one, it works with the same tracks as well, all makita track saws use this same standard track. Dewalt, Kraig and a couple others use proprietary tracks. These are also compatible with parallel guide rails, which makes this more of a cabinetry tool if you're into that. The 10 inch saw also cuts through 4x4 lumber completely, while the 9 inch doesn't quite make it through as you know if you have it. The 10 inch saw also has more power, which is also nice. It's almost a table saw.
Great videos and really insightful. Currently I'm 18V Makita and have a track. Currently doing some cabinetry etc but like the circular saw option you speak of as they're cheaper and more flexibility. Looking at the 185, am I missing out on anything significant versus the newer 235, or also the more expensive plunge saw? (although 36v plunge also an option). Do Makita plunge saws have less blade play or anything for more precise cuts? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Makita makes a 36v (lxt) 235mm track saw, but according to another commenter the LXT version has a more powerful motor than the XGT 235mm equivalent, but I don't think you'd notice unless you have 4ah batteries on the LXT saw. It's almost a table saw, it can do some things a table saw can't too. (60 degree bevel, ability to cut longer pieces, safer than any table saw except a sawstop). With a track and parallel guide rails for it, this saw is almost a table saw. It can't make cuts on pieces narrower than the track, which is the only time a table saw would make a cut more easily than a the LXT track saw, or if you need that last quarter inch of depth a table saw offers. But you'll also need a plunge cut saw regardless to make plunge cuts that don't have tearout.
If only they would make one with the handle on the wrong side for us Americans 😊
Using a left blade saw on a guide rail is awkward as hell. I have the 6-1/2" saw with the guide rail adapter and it's awkward to use especially if you have a guide rail square attached
@@a-carpenter9229 I think it's just the adapter that's awkward I have little 5 inch or 125mm saw and it's blade right still awkward with adapter
They make a 10 1/4" rear handle blade left beam saw. Worth buying if you work with beams alot I have the 270mm saw it's awesome.
Похоже ни одна циркулярка серии XGT не осталась у Вас без внимания.
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Is the 7 1/4 rear handle track compatable?
Haven't you watched my review bro?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL looks like it is time for a re-watch !
Those rear handles don't have so much as a dust port, it just shits its load allover whats been cut, be useless on a track.
The rear handle saws have dust ports in this part of the world.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
Ive only seen the 36v rear handle in person, theres no dust port! No where to extract. But the 40v looks the same over here, no dust port to plug an extractor in.
This wouldn't be good for track use.
Another great video mate! I was wondering what microphone you use to record everything?
Sometimes camera mics, this one mostly recorded with a Joby.
When we are gonna see review of the impact wrenches? You have them almost a year now and keep teasing them 🙂. Also, is that true that if you remove battery from a tool that is paired with a hoover via aws, it looses connection and you have to pair it again after replacing the battery? Like when battery goes flat and you change it with a charged one, the aws won't work and need pairing again? Seems silly hence asking.
No it's saved on the AWS chip
You have to turn the chip on, on the tool when you change the battery. Takes 2 seconds.
They need to put the blade on the other side like the dhs680. Why did they move it. So annoying.
Left side 165mm daw almost identical to the 680 is in production and will be released soon.
price of the gsh03 $589 and gsh04 $600 here in the states makes the pick easy for $11 more but $600 for circular saw is a bit much. Also note Makita makes a universal adapter to use any vacuum with the AWS
Any corded vac with an external power socket outlet.
Unfortunately it doesn't work as a relay, so you can't use just any old vacuum. Has to be one with an external trigger lead for a corded tool. It's also stupidly expensive for what it is. The better solution for now is to use a remote control relay system if you intend to use it with a standard shop vac.
I see one obvious reason for releasing them at the same time - being customer friendly company which, in practice, looks like a real thing. I don't know about the customer policy and service they do tho, so it might be funny contravercy.
235mm is , atleast in Belgium, a very very very common size saw that you'll find from every brand over here. It's just a ' known' size that tradespeople know and will have many blades for :) 270mm in comparison is a very rare size over here
That bad boy shoots out that saw dust like a snowblower!
Have you heard anymore news of the DMC300 release date? 🌝
Pretty Cool 😎
Can you do a 40V 165mm vs 184mm video? I've always liked the compactness of 165s and the 40V 165mm has the same depth of cut as the 185mm, so are there any downsides to the 40V 165mm apart from having to import it from Japan?
+1
Haven't I already done that?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL hmm not sure, I watched 165 and 185mm reviews again yesterday and I don't remember direct comparison but I might be wrong. It would be nice to see them tested in split screen ripping wood like in this video. Sorry if you have already done that though!
I'll look into it.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL awesome, you are a true chad!
You can get an adapter for aws to use with other vacuums.
Dml816 came out not to long ago u could put it against dml801, would love to see if it's worth upgrading
816 is twice as bright as the 801.
Is it possible to adjust the base plates over slightly to line up with the plunge saws on the guide rail? Plunge saws have that option so no matter what brand of saw you use on a guide rail you can set them all to the same cut line
Yes you can
This saw is designed for formworkers who cut 95×65mm and 150×80mm on a regular basis
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You’re one of the worst TH-camrs ever, I’m trying to spend my money on Jeep mods and you just keep showing me these tools I want, like that 10 1/4 saw. Keep up the videos man my wallet would be getting heavy without you 😂
Sorry to hear that. ;)
Millimeters? C’mon man…
That's what most of the world uses, time to catch up dude.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL you know America is the only one that matters bud!
And that's why everyone loves Americans.
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