Thanks to Mason and Horo for talking up the Pacific Championship and being the first podcasters/commentators to recognise the dark horse of Tonga for this tournament. There is a whole Polynesia community of rugby league fans out there waiting for the rest of the RL world to get as excited as they are about the potential of the Tongan and Samoan sides. These teams are a couple of injuries, available players and a few potential players away from Australia and New Zealand. If England toured the Pacific they would find it very tough to get a win over these countries with near their top squads. Exciting times are coming. Great work guys.
So true about the way the boys break down the game. I have been a lifelong Manly fan and watch their game every week. Since watching this podcast, I have watched the game differently, and now find myself a fan of footy in general, and will watch 3-4 games a week.
Man I feel the same way and I'm a storm fan. I find myself often cheering manly winning their games which I would have never done 10 years ago. I think im more of lover of nrl in general even though I still support the storm but i guess players are different now and more likeable across every team with the odd ass here and there
@@nga05 haha I hated Melbourne with the rivalry they had with Manly through the late 2000s, but I found myself actually respecting and enjoying watching them play due to the way I see the game now because of the pody.
@goooonnnn I feel the same the old days with hate for each other was great to see it alongside the players getting into it. Still I think those days somewhat gone but I think like u respecting most players now regardless of team well when they don't have a brain explosion.
The immortal bs was started as a wine promotion by the old rugby league week magazine. Same with the Dally M, a telegraph promotion to sell papers. RLPA needs to take over the awards, accolades from your peers has to be the most valued by the players.
The World Club Challenge lost a whole heap of it's credibility last year with it's appallingly one sided refereeing. I'm glad Penrith have turned their noses up at it.
Wouldn't the world club challenge be at penrith this year? So panthers could pay the English team back with how the game is run here. If anything doesn't help panthers going to Vegas so understandable they don't want to
L1 from Day 1. Shout out from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬. Another great poddy OGs. I reckon fan interaction through the comments section really sets you guys apart, as fans we feel like we’re a legit part of the levels family. One question, if you were to break it down, what is Ivan Cleary’s coaching philosophy that gets the best out of his players? And how, if it does, differ from other coaches like Bellamy, Robinson and Bennett ?
Hey Boys, am I crazy for thinking Jarome Luai has gone past Munster as the player with the “big game player” title? Don’t get me wrong Munster has had some crazy performances in big games but I can also remember big games where he hasn’t been at his best. Every time we doubt Jarome Luai he goes to another level as shown in origin this year. I think based on the last couple of years I would have Jarome ahead of him. Would love to hear your thoughts
Munster's groin is a MASSIVE reason that he's been unable to replicate his previous form. The dude is an absolute weapon when fully fit. Having had a hernia operation in the last 3 years, I know first hand how debilitating it is. I have no idea how the heck Munster has even made it through the season without surgery. Phenomenal effort
Love the show boys. Another one I only stumbled on last couple weeks was the RUN IT STR8 poddy with Adam Blair and Willie in. Has great breakdowns as well and loved their take on the Ponga drama only being really brought up cos it’s the Aussie team. Keep up the great work 👊🏽
The RUNITSTR8 boys mentioned they respected KPs choice but they believed the only reason the media and people etc were making a big deal about it is because of it’s the Kangaroos. They mentioned where was the blow up and the rules about making yourself available the year Joshua Schuster made himself unavailable for Samoa to get himself ready for the next season for manly? What’s the difference? Media was about good in him, etc etc. Samoa didn’t make a big deal about it. Next man up mentality. Definitely makes sense as to why. Thoughts boys on this pov.
Hey boys, just rewatched the panthers storm gf I remember triple OG talking on the review about the alamoti try breaking the storm. I think what broke the storm was in the 70th minute when the Storm had 3 sets on penriths line and getting dragged into touch. Interested to hear your takes on both of your experiences in terms of what broke you the most, having a try scored on you or missing scoring chances in those kind of situations. Love listening to the poddy while I work, keep it up lads 🙌🏼
Olivia higgins over Davis and kezie apps really isn't it they could litterally get away with putting another outside back on the bench at 17 like Chapman and Whitfield on the wing
@@Aka_Luthy yeah I don't fully know each player properly even Ellie Johnston I'd give a crack or grace kemp. Kinda just ran outta names in the end. I'd deffs chuck Berry on the bench then for Kezie if that's the case
Hey boys love the pod. In regards to the World Club Challenge I have a proposal Imagine this - Round One Vegas 2026. You have your handful of games as usual but it ends with the World Club Challenge. The game counts as a Bye week for the Champions so there no points loss there. The poms get their crack at the Aussies. The NRL team can treat it as another preseason game if they want or can go balls to the wall and send the English back to where they came from. It's a win win if you ask me and would be the perfect way to wrap up a killer round in Vegas.
Sup lads love the poddy just an answer on why Bevan French won't come back to nrl. His mum passed away in 2021 and Wigan gave him basically the whole season off because he was injured to go back to Aus to be with his family and he really appreciated that and wants to repay them for giving him all the time he needed where other clubs would be forcing a player to come back before they're mentally ready
Sorry boys, the Storm have only won four premierships in their history. 1999, 2012, 2017, and 2020. Bellamy wasn't the coach in '99. 2007, 2009 stripped due to cheating the salary cap from 2006 -2010. All points stripped in 2010. The Panthers since '98 have won in 2003, 2021, 2022, 2023, and now 2024. More premierships in the NRL era than the Storm, and Ivan Cleary has won more than Bellamy. On top of that, 12 consecutive finals wins, the most in history.
Boys! Long time listener first time commenter! I reckon If it was 15-20 years ago as “Who needs a great tongue” was saying.. Luai would’ve chosen to play for kiwis. Remember the money was different then but it would’ve created a more competitive Aus V Nz landscape and potentially more NZ immortals …. Neh hahaha love the pod lads CONGRATS ON THE YEAR
thanks for the work this year. appreciate it. tried the bsc cans, fark, they serious? tastes fkn horrible! love the analysis tho, love the inspired chats. best to yas for the summer. lookn forward to next season.
Hey lads, quick one I love that ya showing Kenny so much love. I thought I was the crazy one during the year when I had him with Robson as 9 and 14 in the NSW Squad
Speaking of break downs, could you guys break down the fundamentals of footy? I'm relatively new to NRL (grew up in Melbourne and only started watching NRL when I moved to Sydney in 2010). I understand the main rules, but don't really know what are the fundamental and basic things that a team ***must*** get right to be competitive. E.g. why is the forward pack so important? Why are the halves so important? Why are the edges so important? What are their roles in offence and defence? etc
Hi boys, Love the poddy, Listen religiously every single episode! Recently was scrolling through some old highlight reels and on the back of the top 10 fullback chat. Where does Matty Bowen stack up against Billy Slater and the best full backs ever? Best Rugby League Podcast and Insight by far!
Boys got a question, when going to a new club are players giving away club secrets and how things run there e.g plays and calls and what weaknesses there are in a former team. Keen to hear what you’ve got to say.
Big Jason Taumalolo was an absolute freak at his peak. There’s never been someone so damaging to try and tackle against. His fall from peak came at the break between round 2-3 or was it round 3-4? Regardless the massive gap in 2020. He was making 300+ metres and then went quiet and never recovered. Heartbreaking as a cows fan.
The legendary Brad thorn.. I would say it quietly.. but better cross code player than SBW.. won premierships for Broncos and won origin series for QLD played for Australia.. went to union and won super rugby titles and played and won a world cup with the All blacks.. def should be included.
In the last five years Penrith have won one coach of the year in 2020, hooker of the year in 2022, Ivan and Api. I thought Nathan Jarome Dylan,Api and Mitch plus Ivan have been the best in the NRL have been the best coach and spine in the league since they won the last 4 yes 4 premierships in a row 🐈⬛
Hi boys- i am new to the poddy this year and have LOVED it. I am not your most typical listener- a female who is well into her 40’s ! but i am also a mum of 2 boys ( who both play RL) and i love watching games. ( i watch most in our family- more than the hubby!) I only let myself listen to the podcast when i am outside getting my steps, so i wait patiently on mondays and thursdays. i then use the content to have great chats with my sons ( love all the content re fitness is key when young) or to sound like an expert at work ( i work with mostly males) 2 quick questions…. 1. how did the weekly $160 bets end up for the year? 2 what pods ya do you recommend in the offseason ? might be too long to read out, but i already can’t wait for round one- which i am attending in Vegas!!! Willy- hope to meet you in person there!!
Hey boys. L1 from Day1. Being a Parra fan and with the news of Parra saying Gutho free to speak with other clubs. I feel like the clubs disrespected him with what he's put his body through for the club and how much he cares.. surely there's something they could do to keep him at the club until he retires. Would love to know your thoughts? Love the poddy
Wonder if Marky Mark is going to rep Australia or Fiji eventually? Cheers for the effort through the year always listen when I’m working out in Ireland.
Question: are Storm/Bellamy the biggest chokers in NRL history? With no club in the nrl era ever winning a comp outside the top 4 and Storm having the most top 4 finishes and only having 3 comps to show for it.
Hey lads , just listening to the names you’ve read out that are unavailable for international games I think goes to show how important it is to get these games moved into middle of the year , a fully fit Tonga vs Samoa is almost as exciting now as a fully fit aus vs nzl . Maybe bringing back World Cup nines is a good way to fill the void of missing a year of extra games for player health , only taking up 1 weekend opposed to 3/4
QUESTION FOR THE BOYS: Following on from the Pacifica Knockout chat earlier in the week, as if there is anyone better to get it off the ground than Oceana's own Jason Bourne, Wiremu Mason? Similar thoughts with Kiwi's not getting the notoriety they deserve because they don't have an Origin equivalent. How would a North Island v South Island look? Might also incentivise the Kiwi's representing NZ rather than AUS, since NZ would have its own origin. All well and good that NRL wants to expand to US, PNG etc. but why not really try and take over the territories where it already has a footprint, like NZ? Hoz - would love to know your thoughts on this and particularly those of your old man who has had so much influence on NZRL. Cheers for the season boys - glad you are gonna keep it rolling through the off season. Would love to see you keep it at two eps a week, maybe one with a guest? Could let us know who the guest is in advance so we can get out questions in via comments same way we do ep to ep?
Boys you have to scrap the “if there was no salary cap Penrith win more” argument. Don’t forget, that would mean that clubs much richer than them would be able to offer whatever they want to Cleary, Edwards etc. Arguably they don’t even win 4 in a non salary cap era as the richer clubs would circle quicker.
Could argue the ither way that bigger and better sponsors come to Panthers because of their success at all levels. Penrith keep their squad together for longer no?
@etiuateveamatahau3502 Ok if you want to find some way of arguing against an organization winning 4 in row. If you look for something wrong, I'm sure you'll find it. I digress
Hey boys yeah Blake broken nose Ferguson played in that Leigh leapards winning challenge cup side too ,fresh from that origin winning series with James Maloney when teddy scores the match winner in the corner 💙💙💙
Thoughts on Koula at 6 and Lehi at fullback? I reckon Soni Luke could do a job at 6 as well. I wouldn't pick Lolohea, he's past it unfortunately Thoughts on what club Mikey Lewis would suit in NRL? He's too good for SL and needs to come over
A dude on twitter suggested Iongi. I think he is a bit young to be taking on Aust and NZ but apparently he is a gun and killed it last year in the Tonga A at 5/8 though usually he is a fullback.
Hey gents loving the work keep it up. how about this idea for a calendar. have the challenge cup at vegas so it helps grow super league aswell as the NRL. change pacific cup to a 6 nation between KIWI, Tonga, Samoa, PNG, Fiji, kuki in a knock out played the same time as S,O,O. then the nrl rounds goes to 25. then after NRL finals the boys can rest. imagine how deep and scary the Kangaroo squad will be during world cup with guys all playing in that SOO standard and no one has played them so everyone will be nervous to play that unknown last big boss challenge.
Hey Terry Torres and Mudders horo, got an og yktr sports listener here. On the back of the GF, i was wondering in your time who was the WORST team or player to lose against to. Who did you really fkn hate loosing to because they let you knew about it or they carried on. For me as a spectator i hated storm because growing up they would never fkn loose and except for last sunday they still don’t. Seeing Cam Smith waddle around with a smirk on his face after dismantling my team really pissed me off. 😭🤣 Cheers boys ⬆️⬆️⬆️
Bellamy looked more broken than in any other grand final because he thought he had us (Penrith) beaten, beating us twice throughout the season. But this was the first time at full strength. He was shattered.
During Channel 9's game between Bulldogs v. Raiders at Belmore this year, I fully understood footy IQ. Because the field is smaller, the crowd so close and Channel 9's particularly good sound quality that day - I could hear all Critta's calls to his young chargers (most of them his age !) as he directed, encouraged them, schooled them. And physically showed them HOW to win. The full stretch while palming off two Raider players for a corner try, his impossible but successful short kick through for a try and, his flying run from right centre to take the high ball as a left centre, and a smart pass to the tryscorer. I hope WIllie talks with Critta before 2025 and asks this incredible young 24 year old who he should help. I think Willie could teach the young forwards how to score tries - Gus certainly has Sam Hughes' undivided attention. Oh I know - our new Tongan - Sitili. Teach him two things, generational wealth and scoring tries. He'll be made professionally and understand the value of money.
Hey uncle’s, been thinking about this for a while. What are your guys thoughts on the knights trying to get someone like Jai Field for their halves instead of a Will Pryce? Could see him complimenting Kalyn Ponga real well and having a nice young spine for their future. Let me know your thoughts? East to win!
To’o, Critta, Spencer, Hunt, Paulo, Utoikamanu, Talau (should be there), Haas, Leilua, Taulagi, Leota (Smokey for a defect from NZ). Way different side for Samoa
Thoughts on this Knights get weekes to play a dominant 6 role , cogger at the 7, crossland at the 9 and ponga at the 1 and reckon ponga will leave for roosters to play for a premiership and to play with watson again
L1 since day 1. Love the poddy. This might be a long one but would love your thoughts. This is coming from a die hard Penrith fan and listening to the GF review Q1. Off the back of the chat about immortal’s and kiwis being selected, what are your boys thoughts about JFH as a future immortal? If he goes on to win a couple more tournaments with NZ at international level currently as NZ captain. Goes to NZ warriors and becomes captain/Co captain with Harris, then he takes them to the GF and win. Where does he stand in the chat for Immortality in the future? Q2. How do we rate the rise of Dylan Edwards from a very poor season 2019 where he was dropped after a few rounds to where he is now? A bit of context about just how much Penrith fans were not big on him sticking around long term. I was born in the riff but have lived in QLD most my life. Dad and I attended a game at Redcliffe in 2021 (was a double header) when the comp got relocated to QLD. We were sitting next to a few other Penrith fans who were screaming abuse about Dyl should leave the club, “we don’t want you here, etc”. Seems like Dyl has blocked out the outside noise and built himself to where he is through hard work and effort Q3. Ivan deserves his flowers for the system and culture he’s built at Penrith. I believe the club wouldn’t be where it is today if it wasn’t for Gus. His 5 year plan may have been 10 years but as a Penrith fan he deserves credit. Seeing him at the GF after Penriths win, he looked very happy with how much success the team is having. Dogs for the next dynasty big Willie?
Think moving forward boys Tonga have a young Katoa & Fainu 6/7, Samoa have Luai with RTS at 1 like man these teams are looking way more complete than they ever have for the future
I love Mase's passion for the tongan team just a question for the big OG. If he was in his prime in this era would he turn down the kangaroos and play for MMT?
Vlandys is destroying the game. Insurance ruling out strong-hits. Gambling ruling out fair-play. Dresses like the Godfather. Something smells bad. Triple OG Willie Mason must be our Dick Tracy!
Boys, could the Pacific Nations have their own 9s tournament? The average wage is only $10k a year so a team wouldn't be expensive. It could include Vanuatu and Solomon Islands. If talent is an issue bring in some young guns or reserve graders.
Don’t agree with moving Martin to the middle with the reasoning being his “presence”. He does have it but it’s all because of him terrorising ball runners with heavy outside-in jamming defence and running harder lines than just about anyone, as well as his massive kick chase putting wingers under immediate pressure. He won’t be able to do any of those things from the middle of the field when he’s stuck in the washing machine. Back the younger guys in Smith and Henry to step up another level next year to takes Fishs place
on the Ponga not getting picked from Mal as a pay back for it, if Ponga doesn’t want to play for Australia and put his Knights team first again what if he does the same thing at the end of next season. says he’s unavailable and then backflips and says he’s available for selections. do you think it’ll piss Mal of again? 😂
I was thinking about Mitch Kenny not being a spot (compared to other Penrith forwards) unlike most hookers. All the other Penrith starting forwards bar Sorenson and Yeo hit hard. When you're pinned in Liam Martin's corner and can't run at Sorenson you pretty much have to run at Yeo if you want to avoid getting smashed but Yeo in my opinion is the best player at the Panthers or maybe in the NRL at turning players onto their back. So the players Penrith have chosen players that funnel opposition towards their best defender. I was thinking about this then I realised Storm used to do the same thing with Cam Smith at the Storm. Can Smith was so influential opposition teams had to run at him to try to tire him out when he was the best at slowing down the ruck down in his team.
Why not have the world club challenge in Vegas? If there’s gonna be super league teams there and so many uk fans aswell. Would be huge and there wouldn’t be extra work load. Could be classed as Penrith’s bye in the scheduling
i also thought they could have it as one of Penrith’s “trial” games( especially if in Syd) Surely they are going to have a few trials before heading to LV???
I love Origin, but it's undoubtedly coming at the expense of the international game, which is how the sport grows! I can understand Penriths reasoning but Wigan have played just as many games. Origin is tough yes, but the whole team doesn't play? Challenge Cup is a mid season tournament and the whole squad plays. How can you call yourself a rugby league fan and not want to see the best of the best?
i have a question for the boys and i really wanna know the take so i hope yous see this, my question is if you switch the halves in the gf do penrith still win ?, imagine a world where hughes and cleary switch do you think penrith win with hughes or cleary puts storm over and follow up aswell, do you think penrith would be this successful with one of the other big halves instead of cleary, like imagine swapping moses and cleary do you still think penrith go 4 in a row with moses in that 7 jersey, love the poddy boys, always get that like from me and hope to meet you boys one day, hope the triple og scope and lukey are all well and safe, up the wahs and up levels babyyyy
Hi guys. 1st up, Mason, you legend!! Too smart of a footy brain to not be coaching at some level. Where you guys say that Munster and Cleary would ve Aus halves if fit, and if Luai was able to play for Aus, i think he would get the nod over munster purely brcause of that natural combo they have. Its like sixth sense stuff, something that cant be replicated
We all understand that Penrith's system has done amazing to bring up young players and turn them into Stars. However even the lads who they've brought in, Sorensen and Alamoti most notably this year but also the likes of Burto and Api. Where do you guys see Talagi and Papalii not just next year but until they're no longer with the club?
Sorensen had been dropped by souths and the sharks x 2, he was working a job and keeping fit when the panthers picked him up. I love his story, now he has 4 rings .....
44:30 Hey Gents. If they bump Bizza up to 675, and add a year, he will probably still be the highest paid winger ever, that’ll be 6-7 years at 600-675. That’s a lot of $$$. Make him a one clubber and get him a role at the club for the next 10 years post footy. I hear ya, I think the whole league community would understand Bizza taking more money elsewhere but it’d still seem a bit reactive. Penrith have some money to play with, I think we could see an upgrade/extension soon to put it all to bed. Even though other clubs do crazy things, I can’t see 850+ for a winger, he is the highest paid and the best playing in the best team, that pretty much sets the market and doesn’t give managers much leverage or wiggle room.
Just a note on the cap space Penrith have.. Leo Thompson.. 500k-ish.. looks like the closest thing you can get to Big Fish. Big Fish is irreplaceable but Leo Thompson is that prototype of size and aggression. A young leader too. If he does sign, you would seriously have to consider that overall the forward pack has actually improved. You must consider the fresh hunger and competitiveness within the pack. They aren’t exactly lacking in leadership, Yeo, Sorenson, Marto, all leaders. Add Papalii and Thompson.. it’s gotta atleast be close.
Tongas team is gun. Agree with Tui Lolohea. Hes done the jearsy proud but based on the last world cup performance, forwards would get him in the oppositions 20 but he could not put anyone across the line ..
Thats the thing though in the world cup challenge Penrith keep on losing players so this next one Luai, Fish and Turuva cant play last year Critta , Lenui, Cogger and Salmon were not there plus as you realise they are all stuffed from Rep football.
Boys how come so much controversy over KP not electing to play for Australia. When in all honesty Edwards was going to be Fullback. But KP is hammered for it badly by the Media and everyone in the game. Yet Josh Schuster can elect to not play for Samoa? So he can focus on Manly and have a big offseason Saifiti was the same for Fiji but Schuster is celebrated and all is well. Doesn’t the Samoan jersey mean as much to the game PVL ect because this was only last year. Love to hear a chat on it
Penrith are easy favourites for 5 then chances are they go another 3 in the next 5-10 after it. Like Mase said most teams declining others lifting but not at that level yet. Also with their middles I can't see them going past Liam Henry exactly the kind of animal you want starting. Get through all the shit work tough hard working then you'd have a Lindsay Smith come on just think Papalii is waaaaay more effective on the edge.
Mase if the Polynesian teams was like it is now back when you were playing would you if considered playing a lot more games for your heritage or would you of still stuck with australia majority your career.
Bizza I believe is on $625 K the highest paid winger in the comp Alledgedly. Bizza will do what he wants to do. Penrith are not making him sign for unders and Im sure that if he gets an offer that Penrith wont match due to salary cap problems he is one that they will let go. It is a shame that the Fisher Harris descision wasnt made earlier they probably could have kept Critta or upgraded Toó. Unlike Melbourne over ? how many years? cheated the cap They were able to keep star players longer but then lost their record for those years as winner and still hold their heads up high when they robbed other teams of winning an actual premiership by the salary cap rules. With the storm going into this grandfinal 2024 as favourites I felt (IMO) that Ivan pissed all over him in the coaching arena that day
Question why are we not getting what the people want? Why must the only rival to origin be forgotten I can’t boast of a win that was 2 going on to 3 years ago give us Samoa vs Tonga let’s us islanders go to war
Thanks to Mason and Horo for talking up the Pacific Championship and being the first podcasters/commentators to recognise the dark horse of Tonga for this tournament. There is a whole Polynesia community of rugby league fans out there waiting for the rest of the RL world to get as excited as they are about the potential of the Tongan and Samoan sides. These teams are a couple of injuries, available players and a few potential players away from Australia and New Zealand. If England toured the Pacific they would find it very tough to get a win over these countries with near their top squads. Exciting times are coming.
Great work guys.
So true about the way the boys break down the game. I have been a lifelong Manly fan and watch their game every week. Since watching this podcast, I have watched the game differently, and now find myself a fan of footy in general, and will watch 3-4 games a week.
Man I feel the same way and I'm a storm fan. I find myself often cheering manly winning their games which I would have never done 10 years ago. I think im more of lover of nrl in general even though I still support the storm but i guess players are different now and more likeable across every team with the odd ass here and there
Nah mate ik you’re lying with This
@@williamparslow5060 ok.
@@nga05 haha I hated Melbourne with the rivalry they had with Manly through the late 2000s, but I found myself actually respecting and enjoying watching them play due to the way I see the game now because of the pody.
@goooonnnn I feel the same the old days with hate for each other was great to see it alongside the players getting into it. Still I think those days somewhat gone but I think like u respecting most players now regardless of team well when they don't have a brain explosion.
Tonga missing - Kotoni Staggs, David Fifita, DWZ, Moeaki Fotuaika, Junior Amone, Siosifa Talakai, Fainu Brothers & Tyson Frizell
The immortal bs was started as a wine promotion by the old rugby league week magazine. Same with the Dally M, a telegraph promotion to sell papers.
RLPA needs to take over the awards, accolades from your peers has to be the most valued by the players.
100 percent, the players know who is the best not journos
The World Club Challenge lost a whole heap of it's credibility last year with it's appallingly one sided refereeing. I'm glad Penrith have turned their noses up at it.
Wouldn't the world club challenge be at penrith this year? So panthers could pay the English team back with how the game is run here. If anything doesn't help panthers going to Vegas so understandable they don't want to
If I'm Penrith doing anything I can to compete in this only trophy they haven't won
@@OffloadRugbyLeague nah, the real prize for them will be played on the first Sunday of October 2025.
It was always bs 😂 it’s the same with aussies rules doing the matches against the Irish
@@coreyjohnston9195really? Last time I checked Super League was the same sport!
L1 from Day 1. Shout out from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬. Another great poddy OGs. I reckon fan interaction through the comments section really sets you guys apart, as fans we feel like we’re a legit part of the levels family.
One question, if you were to break it down, what is Ivan Cleary’s coaching philosophy that gets the best out of his players? And how, if it does, differ from other coaches like Bellamy, Robinson and Bennett ?
Love the input on the international teams fellas especially on the tongan team. Keep them coming, boys!
Hey Boys, am I crazy for thinking Jarome Luai has gone past Munster as the player with the “big game player” title? Don’t get me wrong Munster has had some crazy performances in big games but I can also remember big games where he hasn’t been at his best. Every time we doubt Jarome Luai he goes to another level as shown in origin this year. I think based on the last couple of years I would have Jarome ahead of him. Would love to hear your thoughts
Munster hasn't played good in a big game for a couple of years, ever since he stopped drinking
😂😂😂@@jaycee571
Munster's groin is a MASSIVE reason that he's been unable to replicate his previous form. The dude is an absolute weapon when fully fit. Having had a hernia operation in the last 3 years, I know first hand how debilitating it is. I have no idea how the heck Munster has even made it through the season without surgery. Phenomenal effort
Love the show boys. Another one I only stumbled on last couple weeks was the RUN IT STR8 poddy with Adam Blair and Willie in. Has great breakdowns as well and loved their take on the Ponga drama only being really brought up cos it’s the Aussie team. Keep up the great work 👊🏽
The RUNITSTR8 boys mentioned they respected KPs choice but they believed the only reason the media and people etc were making a big deal about it is because of it’s the Kangaroos. They mentioned where was the blow up and the rules about making yourself available the year Joshua Schuster made himself unavailable for Samoa to get himself ready for the next season for manly? What’s the difference? Media was about good in him, etc etc. Samoa didn’t make a big deal about it. Next man up mentality. Definitely makes sense as to why. Thoughts boys on this pov.
Hey boys, just rewatched the panthers storm gf I remember triple OG talking on the review about the alamoti try breaking the storm. I think what broke the storm was in the 70th minute when the Storm had 3 sets on penriths line and getting dragged into touch. Interested to hear your takes on both of your experiences in terms of what broke you the most, having a try scored on you or missing scoring chances in those kind of situations. Love listening to the poddy while I work, keep it up lads 🙌🏼
My Jillaroos team would've been
1. Tamika Upton
2. Julia Robinson
3. Tiana Penitani
4. Isabelle Kelly
5. Jaime Chapman
6. Tarryn Aiken
7. Lauren Brown
8. Millie Elliot
9. Quincy Dodd
10. Shannon Mato
11. Yasmin Clydesdale
12. Olivia Kernick
13. Simaima Taufa
14. Keilee Davis
15. Sarah Togatuki
16. Jessika Elliston
17. Kezie Apps
18. Tegan Berry
19. Ali Brigginshaw
Or something like that 😂
lol who cares
Olivia higgins over Davis and kezie apps really isn't it they could litterally get away with putting another outside back on the bench at 17 like Chapman and Whitfield on the wing
@@Aka_Luthy yeah I don't fully know each player properly even Ellie Johnston I'd give a crack or grace kemp. Kinda just ran outta names in the end. I'd deffs chuck Berry on the bench then for Kezie if that's the case
@@mitchelltownes6251 I care. Love the Jillaroos
Hey boys love the pod. In regards to the World Club Challenge I have a proposal
Imagine this - Round One Vegas 2026. You have your handful of games as usual but it ends with the World Club Challenge.
The game counts as a Bye week for the Champions so there no points loss there.
The poms get their crack at the Aussies. The NRL team can treat it as another preseason game if they want or can go balls to the wall and send the English back to where they came from.
It's a win win if you ask me and would be the perfect way to wrap up a killer round in Vegas.
The only problem I see with this is penrith have to use one of there byes up without getting a rest. The other clubs would like it though
Sup lads love the poddy just an answer on why Bevan French won't come back to nrl. His mum passed away in 2021 and Wigan gave him basically the whole season off because he was injured to go back to Aus to be with his family and he really appreciated that and wants to repay them for giving him all the time he needed where other clubs would be forcing a player to come back before they're mentally ready
They flew his brother and uncle over too for the Final and his post match interview he was in bits - it really means the world to him
Sorry boys, the Storm have only won four premierships in their history. 1999, 2012, 2017, and 2020.
Bellamy wasn't the coach in '99.
2007, 2009 stripped due to cheating the salary cap from 2006 -2010.
All points stripped in 2010.
The Panthers since '98 have won in 2003, 2021, 2022, 2023, and now 2024.
More premierships in the NRL era than the Storm, and Ivan Cleary has won more than Bellamy.
On top of that, 12 consecutive finals wins, the most in history.
Storm & Panthers have both won 6 grand finals
Where's Luke with the fact checks. Scope quick to jump storm train. No bias at all he reckons😂
@@WilliamPerese only won 4. 2 were taken away due to rorting the cap. Read the comment properly b4 u respond🤦🏽♂️😂
@gote88 Storm won 6 grand finals. Read the comment before you respond.
@gote88 it's still 6 just because nrl decided to take 2 trophies back due to cap cheating doesn't change they won 6
30:30 incorrect. Luke Lewis was the last forward to win Clive Churchill. 2016 Cronulla
And he was well deserving hard nosed forward with leg speed and ball playing abilities..
Boys! Long time listener first time commenter! I reckon If it was 15-20 years ago as “Who needs a great tongue” was saying.. Luai would’ve chosen to play for kiwis. Remember the money was different then but it would’ve created a more competitive Aus V Nz landscape and potentially more NZ immortals …. Neh hahaha love the pod lads CONGRATS ON THE YEAR
thanks for the work this year. appreciate it. tried the bsc cans, fark, they serious? tastes fkn horrible! love the analysis tho, love the inspired chats. best to yas for the summer. lookn forward to next season.
Hey lads, quick one I love that ya showing Kenny so much love. I thought I was the crazy one during the year when I had him with Robson as 9 and 14 in the NSW Squad
Hello Scope and Willie, does another coach win a 4 peat with the same squads or is this all Ivan??
LEVELS is still pumping post season. Phenomenal work all year lads. 220 comments is outrageous.
Speaking of break downs, could you guys break down the fundamentals of footy? I'm relatively new to NRL (grew up in Melbourne and only started watching NRL when I moved to Sydney in 2010). I understand the main rules, but don't really know what are the fundamental and basic things that a team ***must*** get right to be competitive. E.g. why is the forward pack so important? Why are the halves so important? Why are the edges so important? What are their roles in offence and defence? etc
Because without those positions mate there wouldn’t be a team 👍🏾
@@yklex7596 haha well yeah obviously :D A breakdown from Willie N would be really cool though. I'd love to see how he'd explain the basics.
thoughts on panthers having Laurie as the 6 with blaize in the backs. With papalii left back row, smith as there prop and soro as the super sub again?
I think jack Cole will step up this year but it’s exciting none the less
Cole is a great prospect. Definitely have him over Laurie.
Blaze at 6 papalii might even go front or possibly marto…
Hi boys, Love the poddy, Listen religiously every single episode! Recently was scrolling through some old highlight reels and on the back of the top 10 fullback chat. Where does Matty Bowen stack up against Billy Slater and the best full backs ever? Best Rugby League Podcast and Insight by far!
Boys got a question, when going to a new club are players giving away club secrets and how things run there e.g plays and calls and what weaknesses there are in a former team. Keen to hear what you’ve got to say.
Big Jason Taumalolo was an absolute freak at his peak. There’s never been someone so damaging to try and tackle against. His fall from peak came at the break between round 2-3 or was it round 3-4? Regardless the massive gap in 2020. He was making 300+ metres and then went quiet and never recovered. Heartbreaking as a cows fan.
Love It!! Can I throw Brad Thorn in there
He’s achieved so much
The legendary Brad thorn.. I would say it quietly.. but better cross code player than SBW.. won premierships for Broncos and won origin series for QLD played for Australia.. went to union and won super rugby titles and played and won a world cup with the All blacks.. def should be included.
@@jaymatta4810 very few have even half of what’s on that list.
In the last five years Penrith have won one coach of the year in 2020, hooker of the year in 2022, Ivan and Api. I thought Nathan Jarome Dylan,Api and Mitch plus Ivan have been the best in the NRL have been the best coach and spine in the league since they won the last 4 yes 4 premierships in a row 🐈⬛
The panthers are a champion team, team being the most important word.
Hi boys- i am new to the poddy this year and have LOVED it. I am not your most typical listener- a female who is well into her 40’s ! but i am also a mum of 2 boys ( who both play RL) and i love watching games. ( i watch most in our family- more than the hubby!) I only let myself listen to the podcast when i am outside getting my steps, so i wait patiently on mondays and thursdays. i then use the content to have great chats with my sons ( love all the content re fitness is key when young) or to sound like an expert at work ( i work with mostly males) 2 quick questions…. 1. how did the weekly $160 bets end up for the year? 2 what pods ya do you recommend in the offseason ? might be too long to read out, but i already can’t wait for round one- which i am attending in Vegas!!! Willy- hope to meet you in person there!!
Mr Del Horo and Mase,
You reckon the uk isn’t blowing up about the World Club challenge due to the English teams getting involved in Vegas?
Artie Beetson and Norm Provan are immortals and middles. Brian To'o is on a ratcheting contract, he finishes on $750k
Brad Thorne still dominates for cross code, check the resume
They never respect thorne
Izzy Folau, Lote Tuqiri, Wendell sailor, Matt Rogers, sleeping on some giants here 😂
@@doingadlayI know bro. Ridiculous resume he has.
@@cheypotier9199 oh they are giants just not Brad Thorne giant Mf played for the All blacks are proper global brand.
Hey boys. L1 from Day1.
Being a Parra fan and with the news of Parra saying Gutho free to speak with other clubs. I feel like the clubs disrespected him with what he's put his body through for the club and how much he cares.. surely there's something they could do to keep him at the club until he retires.
Would love to know your thoughts?
Love the poddy
Wonder if Marky Mark is going to rep Australia or Fiji eventually? Cheers for the effort through the year always listen when I’m working out in Ireland.
Question: are Storm/Bellamy the biggest chokers in NRL history? With no club in the nrl era ever winning a comp outside the top 4 and Storm having the most top 4 finishes and only having 3 comps to show for it.
Hey lads , just listening to the names you’ve read out that are unavailable for international games I think goes to show how important it is to get these games moved into middle of the year , a fully fit Tonga vs Samoa is almost as exciting now as a fully fit aus vs nzl . Maybe bringing back World Cup nines is a good way to fill the void of missing a year of extra games for player health , only taking up 1 weekend opposed to 3/4
QUESTION FOR THE BOYS:
Following on from the Pacifica Knockout chat earlier in the week, as if there is anyone better to get it off the ground than Oceana's own Jason Bourne, Wiremu Mason?
Similar thoughts with Kiwi's not getting the notoriety they deserve because they don't have an Origin equivalent. How would a North Island v South Island look? Might also incentivise the Kiwi's representing NZ rather than AUS, since NZ would have its own origin. All well and good that NRL wants to expand to US, PNG etc. but why not really try and take over the territories where it already has a footprint, like NZ? Hoz - would love to know your thoughts on this and particularly those of your old man who has had so much influence on NZRL.
Cheers for the season boys - glad you are gonna keep it rolling through the off season. Would love to see you keep it at two eps a week, maybe one with a guest? Could let us know who the guest is in advance so we can get out questions in via comments same way we do ep to ep?
Boys you have to scrap the “if there was no salary cap Penrith win more” argument. Don’t forget, that would mean that clubs much richer than them would be able to offer whatever they want to Cleary, Edwards etc. Arguably they don’t even win 4 in a non salary cap era as the richer clubs would circle quicker.
Could argue the ither way that bigger and better sponsors come to Panthers because of their success at all levels. Penrith keep their squad together for longer no?
And that’s what the ffp like other sports around the world so they can’t just put more money into just wages
@@rodwellchigome7567no salary cap era means Penrith don’t even start their dynasty lol
@etiuateveamatahau3502 Ok if you want to find some way of arguing against an organization winning 4 in row. If you look for something wrong, I'm sure you'll find it. I digress
Hey boys yeah Blake broken nose Ferguson played in that Leigh leapards winning challenge cup side too ,fresh from that origin winning series with James Maloney when teddy scores the match winner in the corner 💙💙💙
Thoughts on Koula at 6 and Lehi at fullback? I reckon Soni Luke could do a job at 6 as well. I wouldn't pick Lolohea, he's past it unfortunately
Thoughts on what club Mikey Lewis would suit in NRL? He's too good for SL and needs to come over
A dude on twitter suggested Iongi. I think he is a bit young to be taking on Aust and NZ but apparently he is a gun and killed it last year in the Tonga A at 5/8 though usually he is a fullback.
Hey gents loving the work keep it up. how about this idea for a calendar. have the challenge cup at vegas so it helps grow super league aswell as the NRL.
change pacific cup to a 6 nation between KIWI, Tonga, Samoa, PNG, Fiji, kuki in a knock out played the same time as S,O,O. then the nrl rounds goes to 25. then after NRL finals the boys can rest. imagine how deep and scary the Kangaroo squad will be during world cup with guys all playing in that SOO standard and no one has played them so everyone will be nervous to play that unknown last big boss challenge.
Hey Terry Torres and Mudders horo, got an og yktr sports listener here. On the back of the GF, i was wondering in your time who was the WORST team or player to lose against to. Who did you really fkn hate loosing to because they let you knew about it or they carried on. For me as a spectator i hated storm because growing up they would never fkn loose and except for last sunday they still don’t. Seeing Cam Smith waddle around with a smirk on his face after dismantling my team really pissed me off. 😭🤣
Cheers boys ⬆️⬆️⬆️
Willie saying Jason taumalolo is better than Arthur Beetson and frank burge who r both immortals is wild
Bellamy looked more broken than in any other grand final because he thought he had us (Penrith) beaten, beating us twice throughout the season. But this was the first time at full strength. He was shattered.
We won both those games under strength, and we were under strength in the grand final. Get your facts straight.
@@kevinknight1924 if having nas out is considered full strength I guess with nas storm become overpowered lol
Not full strength without NAS
Hey boys, would you be able to ask Scotty Drinkwater if he's related to the legendary Jack Drinkwater?
During Channel 9's game between Bulldogs v. Raiders at Belmore this year, I fully understood footy IQ. Because the field is smaller, the crowd so close and Channel 9's particularly good sound quality that day - I could hear all Critta's calls to his young chargers (most of them his age !) as he directed, encouraged them, schooled them.
And physically showed them HOW to win. The full stretch while palming off two Raider players for a corner try, his impossible but successful short kick through for a try and, his flying run from right centre to take the high ball as a left centre, and a smart pass to the tryscorer.
I hope WIllie talks with Critta before 2025 and asks this incredible young 24 year old who he should help. I think Willie could teach the young forwards how to score tries - Gus certainly has Sam Hughes' undivided attention. Oh I know - our new Tongan - Sitili. Teach him two things, generational wealth and scoring tries. He'll be made professionally and understand the value of money.
This Penrith team just too gangster for anyone. Animals. ❤
Hey uncle’s, been thinking about this for a while. What are your guys thoughts on the knights trying to get someone like Jai Field for their halves instead of a Will Pryce? Could see him complimenting Kalyn Ponga real well and having a nice young spine for their future. Let me know your thoughts?
East to win!
This is my ‘go to’ poddy for league. Has been for a while. Can’t wait for next season 🫡
Bizza is a top 5 prop and a top 5 winger at the same time 😭
I reckon JFH is peaking right now, I can't see him succeeding at the wahs due to their lack of line speed. Panthers are the GOAT of line speed
To’o, Critta, Spencer, Hunt, Paulo, Utoikamanu, Talau (should be there), Haas, Leilua, Taulagi, Leota (Smokey for a defect from NZ). Way different side for Samoa
Thoughts on this
Knights get weekes to play a dominant 6 role , cogger at the 7, crossland at the 9 and ponga at the 1 and reckon ponga will leave for roosters to play for a premiership and to play with watson again
Hey lads love the show!
Would you not include Sua Faalogo in the top 10? Or not seen enough?
Go the warriors and up the kiwis 🤝
L1 since day 1. Love the poddy. This might be a long one but would love your thoughts. This is coming from a die hard Penrith fan and listening to the GF review
Q1. Off the back of the chat about immortal’s and kiwis being selected, what are your boys thoughts about JFH as a future immortal? If he goes on to win a couple more tournaments with NZ at international level currently as NZ captain. Goes to NZ warriors and becomes captain/Co captain with Harris, then he takes them to the GF and win. Where does he stand in the chat for Immortality in the future?
Q2. How do we rate the rise of Dylan Edwards from a very poor season 2019 where he was dropped after a few rounds to where he is now? A bit of context about just how much Penrith fans were not big on him sticking around long term. I was born in the riff but have lived in QLD most my life. Dad and I attended a game at Redcliffe in 2021 (was a double header) when the comp got relocated to QLD. We were sitting next to a few other Penrith fans who were screaming abuse about Dyl should leave the club, “we don’t want you here, etc”. Seems like Dyl has blocked out the outside noise and built himself to where he is through hard work and effort
Q3. Ivan deserves his flowers for the system and culture he’s built at Penrith. I believe the club wouldn’t be where it is today if it wasn’t for Gus. His 5 year plan may have been 10 years but as a Penrith fan he deserves credit. Seeing him at the GF after Penriths win, he looked very happy with how much success the team is having. Dogs for the next dynasty big Willie?
Ignore Q1. I seen that you boys address Fish and immortality throughout the episode
Thoughts on Stacey jones era and his coaching capacity.
He's not a good coach and neither is Adam Blair..
Toa Samoa missing so many guns! Critta, Leniu, To’o to name a few
Think moving forward boys Tonga have a young Katoa & Fainu 6/7, Samoa have Luai with RTS at 1 like man these teams are looking way more complete than they ever have for the future
I love Mase's passion for the tongan team just a question for the big OG. If he was in his prime in this era would he turn down the kangaroos and play for MMT?
Last forward was Luke Lewis in 2016 to get the Clive
Also agree boys with Olivia and Jaime! It’s such BS they’re not in there. I’m hoping Olivia goes and picks the kiwi girls now to play for
Vlandys is destroying the game. Insurance ruling out strong-hits. Gambling ruling out fair-play. Dresses like the Godfather. Something smells bad. Triple OG Willie Mason must be our Dick Tracy!
Boys, could the Pacific Nations have their own 9s tournament? The average wage is only $10k a year so a team wouldn't be expensive. It could include Vanuatu and Solomon Islands. If talent is an issue bring in some young guns or reserve graders.
Don’t agree with moving Martin to the middle with the reasoning being his “presence”. He does have it but it’s all because of him terrorising ball runners with heavy outside-in jamming defence and running harder lines than just about anyone, as well as his massive kick chase putting wingers under immediate pressure. He won’t be able to do any of those things from the middle of the field when he’s stuck in the washing machine. Back the younger guys in Smith and Henry to step up another level next year to takes Fishs place
hey boys what about Wiki as a immortal?
Clarky deserves the golf day spot 😂😂😂
Hey that's my spot
😂😂😂
on the Ponga not getting picked from Mal as a pay back for it, if Ponga doesn’t want to play for Australia and put his Knights team first again what if he does the same thing at the end of next season. says he’s unavailable and then backflips and says he’s available for selections. do you think it’ll piss Mal of again? 😂
Next year top 4 storm,panthers,bulldogs,Rabbitohs
I was thinking about Mitch Kenny not being a spot (compared to other Penrith forwards) unlike most hookers. All the other Penrith starting forwards bar Sorenson and Yeo hit hard. When you're pinned in Liam Martin's corner and can't run at Sorenson you pretty much have to run at Yeo if you want to avoid getting smashed but Yeo in my opinion is the best player at the Panthers or maybe in the NRL at turning players onto their back. So the players Penrith have chosen players that funnel opposition towards their best defender.
I was thinking about this then I realised Storm used to do the same thing with Cam Smith at the Storm. Can Smith was so influential opposition teams had to run at him to try to tire him out when he was the best at slowing down the ruck down in his team.
SCOPE NAS PLAYED KIWIS LAST YEAR OFF THE BENCH ( sorry with the capitals just hope you’d see it 😂)
Why not have the world club challenge in Vegas? If there’s gonna be super league teams there and so many uk fans aswell. Would be huge and there wouldn’t be extra work load. Could be classed as Penrith’s bye in the scheduling
i also thought they could have it as one of Penrith’s “trial” games( especially if in Syd) Surely they are going to have a few trials before heading to LV???
I love Origin, but it's undoubtedly coming at the expense of the international game, which is how the sport grows!
I can understand Penriths reasoning but Wigan have played just as many games. Origin is tough yes, but the whole team doesn't play? Challenge Cup is a mid season tournament and the whole squad plays.
How can you call yourself a rugby league fan and not want to see the best of the best?
Matua wiremu's comment "you look like Tarzan but play like Jane😂😂😂 nga mihi brothers🤪🫡
i have a question for the boys and i really wanna know the take so i hope yous see this, my question is if you switch the halves in the gf do penrith still win ?, imagine a world where hughes and cleary switch do you think penrith win with hughes or cleary puts storm over and follow up aswell, do you think penrith would be this successful with one of the other big halves instead of cleary, like imagine swapping moses and cleary do you still think penrith go 4 in a row with moses in that 7 jersey, love the poddy boys, always get that like from me and hope to meet you boys one day, hope the triple og scope and lukey are all well and safe, up the wahs and up levels babyyyy
Hi guys.
1st up, Mason, you legend!!
Too smart of a footy brain to not be coaching at some level. Where you guys say that Munster and Cleary would ve Aus halves if fit, and if Luai was able to play for Aus, i think he would get the nod over munster purely brcause of that natural combo they have. Its like sixth sense stuff, something that cant be replicated
We all understand that Penrith's system has done amazing to bring up young players and turn them into Stars. However even the lads who they've brought in, Sorensen and Alamoti most notably this year but also the likes of Burto and Api.
Where do you guys see Talagi and Papalii not just next year but until they're no longer with the club?
Sorensen had been dropped by souths and the sharks x 2, he was working a job and keeping fit when the panthers picked him up.
I love his story, now he has 4 rings .....
Levels going the extra mile get dere Scope & OG Viliami!...😀😀😀👍
44:30 Hey Gents. If they bump Bizza up to 675, and add a year, he will probably still be the highest paid winger ever, that’ll be 6-7 years at 600-675. That’s a lot of $$$.
Make him a one clubber and get him a role at the club for the next 10 years post footy.
I hear ya, I think the whole league community would understand Bizza taking more money elsewhere but it’d still seem a bit reactive.
Penrith have some money to play with, I think we could see an upgrade/extension soon to put it all to bed.
Even though other clubs do crazy things, I can’t see 850+ for a winger, he is the highest paid and the best playing in the best team, that pretty much sets the market and doesn’t give managers much leverage or wiggle room.
Just a note on the cap space Penrith have.. Leo Thompson.. 500k-ish.. looks like the closest thing you can get to Big Fish. Big Fish is irreplaceable but Leo Thompson is that prototype of size and aggression. A young leader too.
If he does sign, you would seriously have to consider that overall the forward pack has actually improved. You must consider the fresh hunger and competitiveness within the pack. They aren’t exactly lacking in leadership, Yeo, Sorenson, Marto, all leaders.
Add Papalii and Thompson.. it’s gotta atleast be close.
Give penrith a bye for magic round and invite the winner of the Super league GF
I better start putting in some work, see u boys in 12 months. $50 a hole Hoz?😂
Tongas team is gun. Agree with Tui Lolohea. Hes done the jearsy proud but based on the last world cup performance, forwards would get him in the oppositions 20 but he could not put anyone across the line ..
ETA ON TIMESTAMP?
Whip smart Wille .. did Sonny Bill win a rugby World Cup …2011 2015 in a milli second impressive
If Ben Hunt manages to get picked for Australia!! Jerome For sure should get picked ahead of him for Australia is everyone is fit an available to play
Thats the thing though in the world cup challenge Penrith keep on losing players so this next one Luai, Fish and Turuva cant play last year Critta , Lenui, Cogger and Salmon were not there plus as you realise they are all stuffed from Rep football.
Dragons are coming back next year!
Tigers to jump past dragons
Tigers 4 peat wooden spoon incoming
Ponga and Walsh come kiwis ❤🤙🏼
Have them they aren’t Cleary and Edwards
I was thinking the same as it's there heritage
To the ledgends amazing work my question is to the lefgends how long till your both hall. Of fame and immortals
First hall of fame podcast😂
Boys how come so much controversy over KP not electing to play for Australia. When in all honesty Edwards was going to be Fullback. But KP is hammered for it badly by the Media and everyone in the game.
Yet Josh Schuster can elect to not play for Samoa? So he can focus on Manly and have a big offseason Saifiti was the same for Fiji but Schuster is celebrated and all is well. Doesn’t the Samoan jersey mean as much to the game PVL ect because this was only last year. Love to hear a chat on it
Penrith are easy favourites for 5 then chances are they go another 3 in the next 5-10 after it. Like Mase said most teams declining others lifting but not at that level yet.
Also with their middles I can't see them going past Liam Henry exactly the kind of animal you want starting. Get through all the shit work tough hard working then you'd have a Lindsay Smith come on just think Papalii is waaaaay more effective on the edge.
JFH has killer resumé but he’s a forward AND a kiwi, mans ain’t never seeing immortal status unfortunately lol
Mase if the Polynesian teams was like it is now back when you were playing would you if considered playing a lot more games for your heritage or would you of still stuck with australia majority your career.
I'd put Sam Burgess over Taumalolo all day every day
Bizza I believe is on $625 K the highest paid winger in the comp Alledgedly. Bizza will do what he wants to do. Penrith are not making him sign for unders and Im sure that if he gets an offer that Penrith wont match due to salary cap problems he is one that they will let go. It is a shame that the Fisher Harris descision wasnt made earlier they probably could have kept Critta or upgraded Toó. Unlike Melbourne over ? how many years? cheated the cap They were able to keep star players longer but then lost their record for those years as winner and still hold their heads up high when they robbed other teams of winning an actual premiership by the salary cap rules. With the storm going into this grandfinal 2024 as favourites I felt (IMO) that Ivan pissed all over him in the coaching arena that day
Kenny modern Steve Walters ❤
Not a fan but 100% agree
Horo still white anting the riff. To’o is on 625k and is contracted till 2027. He’s not going anywhere and confirmed publicly he’s not leaving.
Exactly pay the man what 850 from a bunnies fan
Question why are we not getting what the people want? Why must the only rival to origin be forgotten I can’t boast of a win that was 2 going on to 3 years ago give us Samoa vs Tonga let’s us islanders go to war
OG always be low key slipping the doggies team. In the convo🤣.
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