Analysis of some Panasonic VCRs

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  • @probnotstech
    @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A couple of things I forgot to mention in the video:
    1- LP Speed? Yes, all 4 of these support LP!
    2- I missed a "V" in the PV-V4630-K (VCR #3) model number.
    3- Regarding Panasonic VCR model numbers:
    * From 1987 to 1996 they used the PV-[Heads][Year][Variant] scheme.
    * From 1997 to 1999 they used [Year][Heads][Variant]. So the PV-8200 is a 2head model from 1998, and a PV-7450 is a 4head model from 1997.
    * From 2000 and on they added a 'V' to the beginning of the number and went back to the first digit referring to number of heads, and the rest being whatever (I haven't found a pattern).

    • @gerrylouis5787
      @gerrylouis5787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a Quasar VHQ-40M from 2000. Seems like it means 4 head, 2000, Mono.
      Also have a Panasonic PV-S7670, from 1997. 4 head SVHS. I imagine the S means SVHS and the 7 1997, not sure about the rest.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fact that the PV-S7670 exists and I can't explain the '6' infuriates me lol. Make it make sense!

    • @tookeydookey
      @tookeydookey ปีที่แล้ว

      That's cool that they all support LP! I only had one Panasonic VCR, bought it at a Flea Market in late 2011 for $5, claimed it worked just fine. And it did, though it had power supply issues cuz it would make a whining noise every time I plugged it in and it just about shocked me one time! Can't remember what model it was but it did have the blue bar at the front. Even though playing the tapes worked incredibly well (especially on cheapy EP mode public domain tapes), I threw it away shortly afterwards just to be safe. Now I have a portable Panasonic VCR from 1983 and it works so much better!

    • @ayaseshinomiya6524
      @ayaseshinomiya6524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@probnotstech
      1- You have a SuperVHS-equipped VCR if your model number is one of the following (these models were universally 4-head Hi-Fi):
      * 1987-1988 PV-S4x64 or PV-S4x8x
      * 1989-1996 PV-S4x7x or PV-S4x8x
      * 1997-1999 PV-Sx67x or PV-Sx68x
      * 2000-end PV-VS48xx.
      2- Again regarding the model numbers:
      * 1987-1996 PV-[Heads][Year][Variant1][Variant2].
      * 1997-1999 PV-[Year][Heads][Variant1][Variant2].
      * 2000-end PV-V[Heads][Variant1][Variant2][Year] , or sometimes PV-V[Heads][Variant1][Year] as [Variant2] is sometimes omitted on models with no additional features.
      * 1997-1999 "PV-x66x" models were 4-head Hi-Fi VCRs with a full-size body, the intended idea being to match the width of fancy home theater machines at the time. If your VCR had the compact body but was a 4-head Hi-Fi, your model number was "PV-x45x". SuperVHS-equipped VCRs from 1997-1999 universally had a wide body, and so [Heads] was always 6, while [Variant1] could be a 7 or 8.

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The ones with the blue stripe on the door were among the last survivors you would commonly see at thrift stores until VCR's largely disappeared. Panasonic makes their own capacitors, and I think I've only had to ever re-cap one just due to hours.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Their late 80s models were known for capacitor problems, as were several brands.

    • @rwdplz1
      @rwdplz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@probnotstech Everybody has had bad batches from time to time, but the Panasonics seem to be far less common. I've always been shocked how frequently I see bad Nichicons, not nearly as bad as Chinese off-brands, but still.
      As far as VCR's, I've had zero luck with Panasonic's pro-sumer AG-19XX models.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny enough - brands don't exclusively use their own capacitors in their products. Panasonic is a huge company, and their components division and consumer electronics division operated independently. So the bad caps that were prevalent in their late 80s VCRs weren't necessarily Panasonic branded. They did have some known bad "purple" capacitors in the late 70s/early 80s and those were found in all sorts of brands (Sony, Toshiba, Hitachi etc).

  • @ryangramarosso6484
    @ryangramarosso6484 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the 4 head version of the 2 head deck you showed (PV-8450) and I’ve been very happy with it, the picture quality is good and I’ve had no issues with it except when I first got it it had a tape stuck in it! P.S thank you for these videos and keeping a focus on these things!

  • @shloopea
    @shloopea 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Panasonic VCRs are almost always guaranteed to be super reliable. I have two of them, one standalone Hi-Fi unit (PV-8451, 1998) and another built into a TV (PVQ-2012, 2002). They tend to have superior LP/SLP playback and are great for digitizing VHS tapes, with the assistance of a DVD recorder.
    Also, pretty much any Panasonic remote that has "Menu/Action" and/or "SAP/Hi-Fi" keys will work with any of these units. I can use the remote for my TV/VCR unit with my PV-8451 and it works flawlessly.

  • @tookeydookey
    @tookeydookey ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never have I ever seen someone showcase a buttload of Panasonic VCRs in one video! This'll be awesome!

  • @VSigma725
    @VSigma725 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On very rare occasions I've seen Panasonic S-VHS VCRs of this era but sadly have never had the chance to buy one. I didn't even know they existed until recently because they're so much less common than JVC or Mitsubishi S-VHS decks.

  • @retroryan838
    @retroryan838 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My family’s cottage also has a PV-V4630-K VCR that’s silver and it works much better than this. I guess you got unlucky with that one.

  • @lawrencejelsma8118
    @lawrencejelsma8118 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 2004 Panasonic silver casing working today VHS 4Head same VHS player. I'm running out of CRT TVs to play it on in my household. The bulky 75+ lb TVs that broke down are no longer in my household.

  • @simtitan1
    @simtitan1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had really good luck with Panasonic VCRs. I've owned quite a few over the years, and I've never had one not work. Sometimes if you don't use them for an extended period of time they get a bit hungry, but after one or two cycles of the mechanism they go back to working.

  • @MagnusPaul1976
    @MagnusPaul1976 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Panasonic VCR from 1994, isn't anything to write home about, but it is still working 30 years later. The Model Number is NV-SD3. 👍👌 Clean the Mode Switch, the heads, lubricate tape transports and check rubber belts regularly...

  • @GracielaBuenavida-dn1kz
    @GracielaBuenavida-dn1kz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sus videos me ayudan un monton pero muchas veces el angulo de la camara y la luz deficiente no me permite captar bien el praceso.(Sugerencia sin ofender un espejo por arriba de su cabeza y una luz blanca mejoraria mucho los videos,gracias).

  • @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265
    @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:06 the Japanese tape reels have time positions the numbers 20, 60 and 120. the 20 says you are at the first quarter point, the 60 says you are at the half point and the 120 means you are at the end/beginning.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got that, but I was more confused why the writing was in Japanese. I tried Google Translate and it confirms nothing special - "Standard (minutes)" with an arrow pointing left, and "3 times (hours)" pointing right.

  • @stereomann83
    @stereomann83 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Do you know where i can get a mode Switch for a Zenith (LG) VRC420 VCR? I thought i could clean it but broke it while trying to get it apart.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably damn near impossible. Maybe eBay if you can find a service manual that lists the part. Otherwise your best bet is to try and repair the switch or find a parts machine.

    • @stereomann83
      @stereomann83 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@probnotstech I was thinking the same thing of finding a parts unit. i looked on ebay but didn't see any yet so that vcr might be trash now but I'll save it in case i come across a parts one. another thing i was wondering could i use a different mode switch would it work if it has the same amount of pins?

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stereomann83 I doubt another mode switch would work. They have traces that match the positions in the mechanism, so it would have to be exactly the same.

  • @jasejj
    @jasejj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting that these were Japanese-made as late as 2000 - in Europe they were made in Germany in the '90s and by 2000 they were Malaysia. I never really got on with Panasonic gear of this era - they seemed even more plssticky and cheap than the like of Orion and less reliable as well. Even the "high-end" Technics CD and cassette decks were unduly fantastic plastic, they really mortgaged their reputation.

  • @betamaxuser1282
    @betamaxuser1282 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Panasonic PV-4466-K from 1994. It is truly an excellent machine with lots of cool features (including VU meters and adjustable audio recording levels!). But one problem is that the door can break easily -- the VCR uses a small, plastic tab on the door to open it when ejecting, and this tab can break after a few hundred uses. My VCR currently has no door 😥 and I had to tape a piece of cardboard over the opening to keep dust out. 😔
    As far as I know, all four machines support LP-mode recording. Review and cue on LP will exhibit bending and flagging effects, accompanied by video noise on the two-head machines. The four-head machines use 26 µm heads for LP and EP, so LP-mode recordings will look better than EP-mode recordings.
    I believe the "-K" in the model number is used to indicate a Canadian model. (You know -- 'K' for "Canada". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯) I think the only differences from the American models is that Canadian machines come packaged with bilingual manuals and may have CSA stickers on the back:
    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSA_Group

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, you're right about the K - as I mentioned in the description "The K stands for Kanada" 😁

  • @Duane-s7s
    @Duane-s7s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    None of them have a headphone jack or Adjustable VU meters. Even the cheapest cassette decks have them. It’s a shame VCR’s don’t.

  • @maximilianoquayat2323
    @maximilianoquayat2323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hola muy bueno tu canal, me podrás decir que característica o número de código es el cabezal de video que corresponde a la VCR SONY SLV 833 HF? GRACIAS

  • @waterup380
    @waterup380 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just found out any Panasonic remote will work if it has vcr dvd Laserdisc on it. Because I just had an old remote and it works for most functions of the vcr dvd player

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup! If I recall correctly, Panasonic used the same remote codes since the 1980s. My problem is the Panasonic remotes I have are so old they don't even have a menu button (just the basic transport controls).

    • @waterup380
      @waterup380 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@probnotstech oh that's a shame to here

  • @tambarskelfir
    @tambarskelfir 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "If you want to see more, let me know." - I want to see more! :D

  • @joshuapowell1868
    @joshuapowell1868 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vhs movies more free whiching in your house now days everything proven

  • @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265
    @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On that oldest vcr from 1992 There is a VERY COMMON FAULT with the PUA3228 Capstan Drive IC that causes the picture to shake and be all jittery and it misses a phase and when you eject it it will eat the tape. If you move the ic the soldered pins on the back will move. Resoldier them and that will fix it.

    • @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265
      @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When 12voltvids worked in the shop business in the 90s- early 2000s about 2003 he left he fixed HUNDREDS of these early 90s Panasonic's also Quasar, GE, Rca, maybe Optimus vcrs. He stated it on the video where he fixed a pv 4250 1992 vcr in feb 2017.

  • @williama29
    @williama29 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have seen a VCR shot a tape out almost like a toaster once

  • @timmturner
    @timmturner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could 3D print any of those gears easily assuming you can model them, a resin printer would be preferable but you could get away with FDM.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're probably right, but it's hardly worth the pain in the butt of modeling such a complicated part. Plus the piece that broke off is incredibly thin, so I doubt a 3D printed replacement would last very long. All it would take is someone being slightly forceful with the tape and it would break again.

  • @faulknik000
    @faulknik000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Panasonics with the power supply isolated in the metal box tend to have capacitor issues on the output side, I've found. I was working on a Panasonic-built Magnavox TV/VCR combo unit where the capacitor failure and leakage in the PSU was so bad it killed a zener diode on the output side and the main chopper transistor, and blew the fuse.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've found the same thing, but this one is fine. I spot tested some - low ESR, correct values. No visible issues either. Maybe this one was after the problem machines.

  • @Milky-Monkey
    @Milky-Monkey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how do I get my vcr connected to my mega watchman fd500?

  • @TTVEaGMXde
    @TTVEaGMXde ปีที่แล้ว

    When I, as a Hamburger (Germany), understand something from NTSC countries, it is usually related to the letter C. Canada or Cindy Crawford.😉As a television technician, I wouldn't voluntarily touch these cheap recorders that were available in Canada and the USA. However, unhooking the right Tape guide bolt inspired me to create a Tape cleaning machine. In Europe there are head drum units there the Drum Motor is wired from above and, when removed, can rotate somewhere else without the device switching to Stop.

  • @AmazedStoner
    @AmazedStoner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you could manage to find a Logitech harmony remote for a decent price I’d certainly recommend getting one as it would make a lot of sense for how many vcrs I’ve seen you look at. Sometimes it even grants access to service menus.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually do have some Harmony remotes and they're super handy for stuff like this... I was just too lazy to grab one

  • @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265
    @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another common thing in the Pv 4652 and Especially the Pv 2201 is the power supply capacitors because they can cause things to happen such as possibly the color tint becoming more green when put into pause.

  • @michaelethangross3395
    @michaelethangross3395 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265
    @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    all Panasonic VCRS from maybe 1997 to 1999 have the time stamp feature.

  • @joshuapowell1868
    @joshuapowell1868 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video everything proven vhs tapes don't stop playing at all everything proven people keep there mode switch clean out like they should in there VCR player people will never have playing problem's at all with there VCR players

  • @Breaky717
    @Breaky717 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try the rewind of the 4630. Some of newer Pana decks have super extremely fast winding.😅

  • @Toronado1986
    @Toronado1986 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really find it funny how the older ones had better features than the newer ones.

  • @tambarskelfir
    @tambarskelfir ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I for one approve of such positive and uplifting productions! One question, in a very general sense, if you were going to buy a used VCR right now for your personal use and it was in 100% working order, what brand and what era would you focus on?

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hard question. At this point any low hours VCR that works is a good find. I like the mid 90s models (Toshiba, Panasonic, Sony) as they were right at the point of simplification (less to go wrong) before the cost cutting started to impact quality.

    • @tambarskelfir
      @tambarskelfir ปีที่แล้ว

      @@probnotstech thanks bro, good advice. I was definitely looking at the mid 90s as it was in a way the peak of VCRs (and I do need one) but the real trick is to find one with low hours. Not easy to tell from a distance - like when buying from the web or ebay or similar. Not easy even if I had it in my hands tbqh

    • @LatitudeSky
      @LatitudeSky ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree with the earlier comment: Panasonic and Toshiba were very good VHS. Toshiba units tended to run hot especially late 90s models. Cooling was essential. Sony didn't get into VHS until late after their Beta feud ended. Very late Sony models tend to be very good in my experience, and that's what I own.

  • @jameswubbolt7787
    @jameswubbolt7787 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clean before you use.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I always like to see if it works doing nothing to it. It's why I use old test tapes I don't care about.

  • @RetroTVProjectNeedHelpOnthepro
    @RetroTVProjectNeedHelpOnthepro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    add ads to your tv station and a atsc 1 server there a 2 hours long on yt

  • @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265
    @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you still have the pv 4652? If so, the mode switch which is soldered onto the chassis on the bottom should be cleaned. Also if you turn the loading belt through the whole unloading and loading cycle, the front loader should be retimed. I don't think a piece broke. You would hear rattiling.

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's definitely a mechanical issue and not the mode switch (though I did clean the mode switches on the others after filming this). No matter how I align it, the gear will run out of travel and either go free/loose (no more teeth) or bind against the other end.
      I seem to recall something rattling around when I got these, but I didn't think much of it. Oh well.

  • @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265
    @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:55 i know what happened: the Front loader got misaligned and is not taking the tape. There is a metal cog that has to be turned back to its home position and to do that you have to take the cassette housing assembly off first, then take out the chassis and turn the loading belt back to retime it. There is a aligning mark on the cassette housing assembly that lines up with the cog. 12voltvids has done this to a RCA VR508 1996 Panasonic vcr.

    • @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265
      @austinthevhsvideogamelover5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I paused the video right away to tell you but it looks like you know what happened. I had a rca vr337 vcr and that happened when a tape got jammed and the filmstrip fit wrapped around the capstan pinch roller and the right reel gripper was loose causing the tape not to be down causing it not to turn the right reel causing the tape to spool out and it shuts off in 4 seconds.

  • @DudeClub07elevators
    @DudeClub07elevators ปีที่แล้ว

    Tape salad and whoa 4:03-4:07

  • @chickenfoundation9323
    @chickenfoundation9323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got a jvc hr-d470u which has audio but no video , could the head be dirty? Or should I check something else

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you see in the video? Just tracking noise, or a black screen?

    • @chickenfoundation9323
      @chickenfoundation9323 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@probnotstech actually I get bits of video, those bits are clear and audio is clear , I just think the heads are dirty

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chickenfoundation9323 What do the bits without video look like? Or is it being blanked by your TV? It could be many things, but cleaning the heads (video heads and audio/tracking head) is a good first step.

    • @chickenfoundation9323
      @chickenfoundation9323 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@probnotstech the bits without video look like static sometimes jump around

    • @probnotstech
      @probnotstech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the picture comes and goes in a fairly regular pattern then it could be the VCR is not seeing or syncing properly to the tracking pulse on the tape. Cleaning the tracking/audio head is a good first step.
      If the VCR can't lock onto the tracking pulse, it can't match playback speed with the speed at which the tape was recorded. Then the will run too fast or slow (depending on how close the VCR's internal clock is to the one that recorded), and you'll see the picture go in and out (like someone is slowly adjusting the tracking back and forth).

  • @joshuapowell1868
    @joshuapowell1868 ปีที่แล้ว

    People like myself are fixing break vhs movies with Scotch tape it starts playing again with out no problem's