And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of a genuine apology. So strange to see in a way. The music industry isn’t really the kind of place you think of when you think of genuine, honest people. He was a titan. Rest well Mr. Albini
It's polite and verbose, but he still starts it off with his reasoning for why he trashed them. A real apology does not validate the apologizer. The last few sentences that explain what he said and that he was ashamed would have been a solid apology. That beginning part seeks to absolve his actions in some way.
So happy to have been shown this, it always made me sad how viciously he talked about Pixies and how little he seemed to care about Surfer Rosa, one of the best characteristics he had was his ability to change and his maturity. RIP Steve
Respect brother. When someone uses the word ‘ashamed’ over the word ‘guilty’ that means you truly are taking accountability. We lost a truly talented and interesting storyteller. RIP Steve
Ah well. We all grow up and get a wiser persepective and regret some of our choices from our youth. What a tragedy the world doesnt get more years with the older and wiser albini.
Underground was suspicious.. yeah because they didn’t have a “look” or some obvious “edge” they were going for. Overweight, balding, a woman on bass, tucked in button downs.. I personally find that appealing and lets you get into the music more.
Great record. Great job engineering/producing. Part of the appeal of SR is that it has a current of pop appeal, something Charles never denied having in his own musical tastes. They weren’t Big Black. Both were great bands. Vive la difference!
I've never head this before but, this one hit hard, especially after Steve's passing. So much humanity here. Definitely the way apologies should be done.
I always figured Albini was being a punk when he slammed bands or he was jealous of their success. Albino should be as much of a household name as Kurt Cobain for what he was doing in the early 80’s.
The problem I had with his comments back then was that they were made after Doolittle came out, and he sounded quite bitter that the great Gil Norton had been chosen to do that record instead of him, and naturally, it sounded way different than Albini’s documentary style. When he said “I’ve never seen four cows more willing to be led around by their noses…” and whatever other snide comments, that sounded BITTER. Pixies have always seen their producers as key collaborators, and their histories with Gil Norton (four albums) and now Tom Dalgety (the last three albums) show that they are selective and do have particular opinions on which producers they like.
When did he say this? Because he shat on his Pixies album in his interview with Marc Maron in 2016. I'm pretty sure I know why he did it. He's very close to Kim, who always had a difficult relationship with Charles (who wrote all the songs), and needed to devalue the Pixies to big her, and her Breeders project, up. Not to suggest Albini was not one of the greats.
Steve Albini never had to address his self-admitted attraction to children (proof: his Big Black tour diaries) because he was considered part of the punk rock cultural intelligentsia. The media just never called him out on it.
Sensational writings in zines he did in his 20s prove nothing. There is an endless supply of proof that he liked to rile people up, in his teens and 20s. He grew out of it. The question is, will you flag my post because it goes against your narrative or will you step off the internet and actually do something that benefits the safety of children
The only comment I wonder about was that one about wanting to watch videos of kids doing, uh, questionable things to their backsides. Great engineer, but not sure if I want to know what’s up with that.
Well, fair enough but really he should've expressed a little more regret over working with Peter Sotos, contributing to his magazine "Pure" and writing about child porn in an overly enthusiastic way in the Big Black tour diary.....
In the same diary he wrote disparagingly of Asians, then worked with Japanese band Zeni Geva as engineer and collaborator over several albums. The singer's mother and grandmother stayed at Albini's house. Unfortunately those of us who weren't there can't ascertain the intent of the writing, but those who were can, to get a rise out of people who already hated him or with whom he wanted no association
Surfa Rosa is the most important album in rock music history. I'm not saying it's the best or greatest or even the most original, but how unpredictable some parts are is amazing to me. Steve Albini found a good balance for them.
@@chrisknight3734 go read the Big Black european tour diary, specifically the Germany entry. Then go read his musings about PURE magazine and Peter Sotos. Stomach-turning stuff to be sure.
@@jd-jy8lu Did you not read my comment? He wrote "Jordan Minnesota" literally exposing a sex ring. The Pure article is meant to lampoon the 80s daycare scandal and if you read all of it, it mostly praises serial killers (another subject grossly appropriated by mass media to this day). I read the tour diary 20 years ago, it is also bs. If you don't think so, read the entire thing, lots of stuff that reads like pure sensationalism. Albini was a journalism major, his entire schtick in the 80s was writing about vile things to piss his peers off. It's all been out in the open for decades, people commenting on it now weren't even born and should just stay out of the conversation
You obviously can never take back anything you said about anybody… But did you intentionally say it because it needed to be set out loud to figure out something deeper? The number of ways to look at opportunities… Think about it like that. I don’t regret anything I’ve ever ever said about anybody or to anybody.
I get what he is saying. Their sound is anomalous. If your a musician you appreciate it. But they also are this funny kind of litmus test for people who listen to music because they are told its good. Makes me sad i want to tell them but i know its too much. Another thing kurt would regret had he lived to see it, as he was the reason they got big.
I remember in the early 90s listening to them and being kinda meh about it. I was into heavier things I guess. It wasn't until sitting with a girlfriend once utterly blissed out on some ....... things one might not admit to in older age (it was the 90s and what happened in the 90s stays in the 90s lol)..... and it all just made sense and a lightbulb went on and I fucking got it. I still think Trompe Le Monde is waaaaay underrated an album.
Three out of the four original Pixies albums were top 10 hits on the mainstream charts in the UK before Nirvana had a hit. When Teen Spirit came out, it was widely understood and acknowledged to be very much in their style. Pixies were pretty much a household name in the UK from 1989 onwards for anyone young enough to be into 'Indie' music, which was becoming massive by the late 80s. The idea that Pixies are famous now because Kurt Cobain liked them is a ridiculous opinion. They were essentially semi-legendary by the time the Seattle scene became box office in 1992 - as were Janes Addiction to some extent - because they were seen as the torch-bearers of the underground scene and laid the groundwork for the bands that changed the face of popular music by going overground. I'm a massive Nirvana fan by the way and was then but you couldn't be more wrong if you believe that Kurt Cobain's patronage turned the world on to Pixies. It was just much harder for bands to break into the US mainstream and the UK was more open to Indie music and had a long tradition of Indie bands becoming mainstream acts. Pixies would have been very well known to 'College Music' crowds in 1989, without question.
There is always one person who *just has* to make this comment when someone dies. Today, that person was you. The truth is, you have *no idea* what led to his heart attack. Given that that is the case, you *could* have chosen not to speculate. Someone always does though. Some people just can't seem to show even a few days of respect for the deceased. They *have* to speculate.
neil young is even more 'pro-vaxx' than albini was and i just saw him stand on a stage at the ripe old age of 78 last night for two hours in the cold, clammy, new jersey weather and he somehow avoided a heart attack, so perhaps your assessment of the avilable data is a bit off. Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan both seem to be doing okay as well.
@SaviorMoney there is no such thing as being “almost certain”. You are either certain of something or you are not. And in this case, you are as equally “certain” that a vaccine caused his heart attack as you are that it was caused by the “fact”that he did an eight ball of blow off a stripper’s ass an hour before he had that heart attack. In other words, you lack certainty as to the cause of his heart attack.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of a genuine apology. So strange to see in a way. The music industry isn’t really the kind of place you think of when you think of genuine, honest people. He was a titan. Rest well Mr. Albini
exactly. This kind of plain, sincere apology without any excuses is so rare, not just in music, but in our society as a whole. 😢
Also a lover of the 🍼 👶....🤮
@@abstractwater nailed it
Class! Honor!
It's polite and verbose, but he still starts it off with his reasoning for why he trashed them. A real apology does not validate the apologizer. The last few sentences that explain what he said and that he was ashamed would have been a solid apology. That beginning part seeks to absolve his actions in some way.
This is what maturity sounds like.
He's a paedo. Rest in spit
Kim Deal said it best, "The human being he's become...I could just cry!" RIP to a legend, we lost him way too soon. Thanks for everything Mr. Albini.
That’s good to hear. I’m surprised someone didn’t hospitalize him for his mouth back in those days.
He's dead?
@@cd3949 Yeah, passed on Tuesday of a heart attack.
@@cd3949yea he died of a heart attack 5 days ago
@@cd3949yeah like yesterday
We all have regrettable moments. The trick is to own up to it. He owned up here. As others have said. Respect.
So happy to have been shown this, it always made me sad how viciously he talked about Pixies and how little he seemed to care about Surfer Rosa, one of the best characteristics he had was his ability to change and his maturity. RIP Steve
Respect brother. When someone uses the word ‘ashamed’ over the word ‘guilty’ that means you truly are taking accountability.
We lost a truly talented and interesting storyteller.
RIP Steve
RIP Albini, Surfer Rosa is a tremendous album.
Ah well. We all grow up and get a wiser persepective and regret some of our choices from our youth. What a tragedy the world doesnt get more years with the older and wiser albini.
Underground was suspicious.. yeah because they didn’t have a “look” or some obvious “edge” they were going for. Overweight, balding, a woman on bass, tucked in button downs.. I personally find that appealing and lets you get into the music more.
RIP to a legend.
Great record. Great job engineering/producing.
Part of the appeal of SR is that it has a current of pop appeal, something Charles never denied having in his own musical tastes. They weren’t Big Black. Both were great bands. Vive la difference!
I've never head this before but, this one hit hard, especially after Steve's passing. So much humanity here. Definitely the way apologies should be done.
Surfer Rosa is the best Pixies album.
It’s good to admit when you were wrong and apologize
I always figured Albini was being a punk when he slammed bands or he was jealous of their success. Albino should be as much of a household name as Kurt Cobain for what he was doing in the early 80’s.
Target should be selling rapeman tshirts alongside the nirvana
The problem I had with his comments back then was that they were made after Doolittle came out, and he sounded quite bitter that the great Gil Norton had been chosen to do that record instead of him, and naturally, it sounded way different than Albini’s documentary style. When he said “I’ve never seen four cows more willing to be led around by their noses…” and whatever other snide comments, that sounded BITTER. Pixies have always seen their producers as key collaborators, and their histories with Gil Norton (four albums) and now Tom Dalgety (the last three albums) show that they are selective and do have particular opinions on which producers they like.
When did he say this? Because he shat on his Pixies album in his interview with Marc Maron in 2016. I'm pretty sure I know why he did it. He's very close to Kim, who always had a difficult relationship with Charles (who wrote all the songs), and needed to devalue the Pixies to big her, and her Breeders project, up.
Not to suggest Albini was not one of the greats.
Why do I get the feeling that no one involved in the interview has any idea what he said and in which fanzine
Forced Exposure.
It's pretty famous. Something about cows being led around by their nose rings.
did he apologise about all the CP stuff ?
Albini's voice sounds like Rick Beato
Both Olive Oil Americans
@@HeavyOnTheLeroy Extra Virgin
what did he s say
The Replacements Rock! RIP Steve
Steve Albini never had to address his self-admitted attraction to children (proof: his Big Black tour diaries) because he was considered part of the punk rock cultural intelligentsia. The media just never called him out on it.
Sensational writings in zines he did in his 20s prove nothing. There is an endless supply of proof that he liked to rile people up, in his teens and 20s. He grew out of it. The question is, will you flag my post because it goes against your narrative or will you step off the internet and actually do something that benefits the safety of children
RIP Prince of punk
Steve Albini on regret over comments he made about Steely Dan and Aja
People are entitled to an opinion.
The only comment I wonder about was that one about wanting to watch videos of kids doing, uh, questionable things to their backsides. Great engineer, but not sure if I want to know what’s up with that.
Well, fair enough but really he should've expressed a little more regret over working with Peter Sotos, contributing to his magazine "Pure" and writing about child porn in an overly enthusiastic way in the Big Black tour diary.....
nah
hey everyone check it out this guy claims to have the Big Black tour diary in earnest
In the same diary he wrote disparagingly of Asians, then worked with Japanese band Zeni Geva as engineer and collaborator over several albums. The singer's mother and grandmother stayed at Albini's house. Unfortunately those of us who weren't there can't ascertain the intent of the writing, but those who were can, to get a rise out of people who already hated him or with whom he wanted no association
@@aelitaurick5553seek help
Stop, I already love the guy. You don't have to try to convince me to love him even more.
He's the reason why I left the band in New Jersey that he was producing
*engineering
What happened? Which band?
Yeah tell us more
Tell us your made up story, vague man
They listened to my advice so they suck.
His original criticism was dead on.
Where’s the video? 80’s hipster politics such a drag. It least he apologized. But geez
Surfa Rosa is the most important album in rock music history. I'm not saying it's the best or greatest or even the most original, but how unpredictable some parts are is amazing to me. Steve Albini found a good balance for them.
It's not. But certainly a nice thing to say.
2nd greatest album of all time.
Nah, OK Computer is the most important album in modern rock history.
It's probably Nirvana's nevermind
@@GigoloAunt It's likely that Nevermind doesn't exist without Surfer Rosa.
why are rock guys obsessed with giving their opinion on everything
he worked on the damn album
What about his comments on underage girls
Those girls are all grown up by now
Nothing screams "I've never heard a note of this guy's music" more than calling him out for something he violently protested against in a song
@@chrisknight3734 go read the Big Black european tour diary, specifically the Germany entry. Then go read his musings about PURE magazine and Peter Sotos. Stomach-turning stuff to be sure.
@@jd-jy8lu Did you not read my comment? He wrote "Jordan Minnesota" literally exposing a sex ring. The Pure article is meant to lampoon the 80s daycare scandal and if you read all of it, it mostly praises serial killers (another subject grossly appropriated by mass media to this day). I read the tour diary 20 years ago, it is also bs. If you don't think so, read the entire thing, lots of stuff that reads like pure sensationalism. Albini was a journalism major, his entire schtick in the 80s was writing about vile things to piss his peers off. It's all been out in the open for decades, people commenting on it now weren't even born and should just stay out of the conversation
You obviously can never take back anything you said about anybody… But did you intentionally say it because it needed to be set out loud to figure out something deeper? The number of ways to look at opportunities… Think about it like that. I don’t regret anything I’ve ever ever said about anybody or to anybody.
idk u might regret something if said in public
It’s my least favorite album of theirs pre break up. The album is much better live though
I get what he is saying. Their sound is anomalous. If your a musician you appreciate it. But they also are this funny kind of litmus test for people who listen to music because they are told its good. Makes me sad i want to tell them but i know its too much. Another thing kurt would regret had he lived to see it, as he was the reason they got big.
@@ericjune81 I said the reason the pixies are a household name is because he told nirvana fans about them.
NAH you don't have to know how to play an instrument to get the Pixies, lol, if that was the case no one would have heard of them
I remember in the early 90s listening to them and being kinda meh about it. I was into heavier things I guess. It wasn't until sitting with a girlfriend once utterly blissed out on some ....... things one might not admit to in older age (it was the 90s and what happened in the 90s stays in the 90s lol)..... and it all just made sense and a lightbulb went on and I fucking got it. I still think Trompe Le Monde is waaaaay underrated an album.
@@shayneoneill1506 bossanova is my favorite
Three out of the four original Pixies albums were top 10 hits on the mainstream charts in the UK before Nirvana had a hit. When Teen Spirit came out, it was widely understood and acknowledged to be very much in their style. Pixies were pretty much a household name in the UK from 1989 onwards for anyone young enough to be into 'Indie' music, which was becoming massive by the late 80s. The idea that Pixies are famous now because Kurt Cobain liked them is a ridiculous opinion. They were essentially semi-legendary by the time the Seattle scene became box office in 1992 - as were Janes Addiction to some extent - because they were seen as the torch-bearers of the underground scene and laid the groundwork for the bands that changed the face of popular music by going overground. I'm a massive Nirvana fan by the way and was then but you couldn't be more wrong if you believe that Kurt Cobain's patronage turned the world on to Pixies. It was just much harder for bands to break into the US mainstream and the UK was more open to Indie music and had a long tradition of Indie bands becoming mainstream acts. Pixies would have been very well known to 'College Music' crowds in 1989, without question.
"AHHHHHHHH! OH MY GOD THE PAIN! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
- Steve Albini right now, in Hell.
We do not know whether or not he believed in Christ and His salvation.
some of you christians do love to imagine others in pain. curious.
@@lsimmo78"believing" makes no difference
@@Lnch4ALionaww, little guy has to justify his belief system online to strangers. How cute.
aint no gawd aint no hell
I thought he was regretting being so pro vaxxx pro big Ph…. Heart exploded. Clot shot
There is always one person who *just has* to make this comment when someone dies. Today, that person was you. The truth is, you have *no idea* what led to his heart attack. Given that that is the case, you *could* have chosen not to speculate. Someone always does though. Some people just can't seem to show even a few days of respect for the deceased. They *have* to speculate.
Looking forward to your report, Mr armchair coroner.
neil young is even more 'pro-vaxx' than albini was and i just saw him stand on a stage at the ripe old age of 78 last night for two hours in the cold, clammy, new jersey weather and he somehow avoided a heart attack, so perhaps your assessment of the avilable data is a bit off. Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan both seem to be doing okay as well.
@SaviorMoney “it almost certainly caused his heart attack” lol.
@SaviorMoney there is no such thing as being “almost certain”. You are either certain of something or you are not. And in this case, you are as equally “certain” that a vaccine caused his heart attack as you are that it was caused by the “fact”that he did an eight ball of blow off a stripper’s ass an hour before he had that heart attack. In other words, you lack certainty as to the cause of his heart attack.
Nah they suck
lol what a dumbass. Listen to Jason aldean there sweets. The adults are talking