8:11 About this. That calendar is placed in an old classroom, which means that the calendar itself is probably old and was never updated. The classroom is abandoned probably because most people left the town and the og story says that the mill closed down 3 years prior to the events of itp, meaning that people began to leave around 3 years ago. 2018 (the old calendar) + 3 = 2021. 2021 also works better because it fits with the graphic novel, itpg website and the fact that vtubers are referenced in the game (and vtubers became really popular in 2019-2020, plus the vtuber that was referenced began streaming in late 2020).
Before watching the video Thank you sambar I was waiting for a video that fully went into return to the pits crazy craziness I love your channel and I’m glad you make videos. I hope you have a great Christmas and a happy new year
I really hope that people dont say this book isn’t canon. It’s been pissing me off lately that people are just gonna throw it away. If TWB and VIP and escape the pizzaplex are then this one would be too. I’ve seen ppl say confusing things to say that this book isn’t reliable…. if say ITP is canon then then so does RTTP
With the Into The Pit = Return To The Pit canon route, I've got to say that there are still some details that make Return To The Pit "contradict" Into The Pit
@ ya everyone knows that. But I rather believe a series of books that are more likely to be canon just like the other 2 than a spin-off game that was made for the fnaf anniversary and was never confirmed canon….. in every game in the timeline it states 5 MCI. Personally to me any other 6 victim that was mentioned I think it’s just Charlie. Even in the ITP mini game it’s more likely that the 6th victim is just Oswald and thw 7th hat is Charlie. This would make sense as in the grave scene in HW had Charlie the last one which lines up well with everything else
umm, cool analysis & breakdown & amazing video, by the way, i don't thinks this book happens in the same community as the other games, or rather to say, the mainline games, but!, anyways from that. still an-incredible video,
So basically this book confirms that there are only 5 kids, Eleanor is fully confirmed, Cassidy is the Happiest Day recipient (which is bull unless BV is Cassidy or its not actually *The* Happiest Day and it's like one that is just for the MCI), ITP is 100% confirmed to be in 2018 which means FNAF 3 isn't in 2015, and that the balloon order in Security Breach with the coloured balloons is the order for the MCI victims deconfirming the grave order in HW2.
@HappyFrogRender6502 the book confirms it takes place after 30 or more years with one on the paths have Oswald turn into an adult in their 40s. Oswald is 10 in the book so its 30 - 40 years and the calendar in the classroom in the game shows dates that only line up with the year 2018 within that timeframe which basically means adult Oswald is either 43 or 44
Yeah. I don’t see why people are complaining about it. I guess it’s because of CC not getting a happiest day is but who knows what happened to him. Maybe Fnaf world is his happiest day. (Though, I haven’t gotten to the clock ending)
@@captainet2457 The clock ending implies FNaF World is in deed CC's HD, and I couldn't be happier. He helped everyone by completing the clock mini games, and so got to move on; in turn, he enables the others to do so when his brother completes the FNaF 3 secret mini games.
The 8-bit route could say that the day of the MCI was Cassidy's birthday. Sure it is about giving cake to someone in an 8-bit world, but aside from that, there isn't really any more evidence at CassidyReceiver. Then there is also the "4 games 1 story" thing which could be retconed but the information in the first 4 games seems to be consistent with simple errors like there being a party room in the FNaF 1 building (Which could've just been cealed by the time of FNaF 1).
@@HappyFrogRender6502 One thing that party room in the FNaF 1 building part reminded me of was TWB description of the building; in fact if it is the same room it raising the question of whether said room was sealed off just before Mike started his first shift in FNaF 1.
If some of the game overs and new game + is anything to go by, then in this version Oswald himself is the sixth child; I mean we're shown two of the boys and Cassidy in a picture, the book describes Suzie (a girl with curly hair), and the rabbit drags in the third boy, leaving Oswald as the potential sixth victim.
I think that is a good idea. But I also really like the idea that maybe Oswald’s dad is one of Micheals friends (we’re all pretty sure Cassie’s dad is Bonnie bro) and so this new generation of games is about people who surrounded the Afton family.
@lucygarrett9785 Yeah, I also like that idea; it's a chance to see the possible ripple effects of the Afton story. In fact, I'm hoping the next/last book gives us a chance to learn more about Cassie's backstory, particularly with her dad.
Ik a lot of people are saying this book confirms Cassidy as being the HD receiver but we need to remember that this isn't the MCI, this is memories of the MCI and someone has to be the reciever in order for this ending to happen so they defaulted to Cassidy bc she is also a soul inside the Golden Freddy suit and the last MCI victim, plus, the real Happiest Day has already occurred after the FNAF 6 fire when William was sent into UCN by Andrew and the spirits are freed from Molten Freddy. If loop theory is true, then this means that Cassidy 100% has to still be alive because in the Fetch minigame we see that someone in the present day is still haunting the Golden Freddy suit as also seen in UCN which takes place after the HD as implied by the fact that the souls are no longer tied down by a suit as the Molten Freddy suit was destroyed and later on in Fazbear Fright's the Puppet's soul stays behind to defeat the Trash Afton Monster which is symbolic of the mask falling slower than the other HD kids as her spirit stays behind a little longer to finish the job and kill Afton before being freed. A lot of people are ignoring the fact that she literally shows up, unwilling to depart in UCN.
ITPLoop is pretty obviously canon. All these books seem to be loops in order to trap their protagonists. We never leave MOE in VIP, Ralph is trapped in a never ending remake of his final shift until he works with "Bronwyn" to set things right, and Oswald is trapped in a loop until he gets the coin and finally "SAVES THEM". EtP is almost 100% gonna be about cassie reliving her special day due to the neural implant
I wouldn’t say that Cassidy being the happiest day receiver was obvious. All signs pointed to it being crying child. The birthday imagery, the layout of the building matching perfectly to Fredbear’s, and the character masks all matched up perfectly with crying child and it would have been a satisfying end to his character after the tragedy he faced in fnaf 4. But no instead it was Cassidy all along, a character we know basically nothing about and a character who doesn’t have any reason to be as important as she is. Don’t get me wrong; from what I’ve heard from this book it sounds great, I just wish they gave the happiest day ending to cc. I think it would have been more satisfying.
Wym Cassidy is obviously the Happiest Day receiver. Than what was the point of FNAF 4 at all? I mean it's possible, but I'd really like to see an explanation on that stance
The point of FNaF 4 has always been to give Afton some back story by showing you the relationship between his kids. BV receiver has ALWAYS been a fan theory that started due to FNaF World's clock ending and the mirroring of HD to create the map of Fredbear's. The fact you could take FNaF 4 out of the equation and NOTHING about HD changes (then again, FNaF 4 was never supposed to exist in the first); not to mention Scott specifically showing Cassidy on the HD page of the logbook, not CC, proves that it was always for her.
@@flickyfkosstitcher8547The girl in The Logbook page isn't confirmed to be Cassidy. Sure it references Happiest Day with The Puppet giving cake to a kid, but that's the only reference. In The Fourth Closet she has *long* black hair, and in The Fourth Closet Graphic Novel she has *long brown* hair, and in Return To The Pit itself she has *curly* black hair and *not short black hair*. If you believe the new things presented in the multiple Return To The Pit endings are reliable, Cassidy's design don't really match up with the girl in the Logbook page. The 8-bit route could just imply that the day of the MCI was her birthday. Aside from giving cake to a kid in an 8-bit world, there are no more coincidences. And then there are the similarities between Happiest Day and the FNaF 4 minigames.
@@HappyFrogRender6502 I will agree the visual portrayal of Cassidy is inconsistent, and thus awkward to pin down exactly which one she is. Heck, I remember on the 10th of June 2018 the TH-cam channel Treesicle proposed Cassidy was potentially the Crying Child due to what's in the logbook, even though they proposed that Cassidy and Crying Child were two separate entities that both possess Golden Freddy on the 19th of May 2017.
If CassidyReciever is true, this changes it a bit. The events leading up to HD is as follows: FNaF World (Setting up breadcrumbs) > FNaF 3 (Mike putting the pieces in place) > FNaF 3 Minigames (Events are completed) > Happiest Day (nah, no way lad) FNaF World is kind of a UCN-flip, instead of a collage of: bad memories, vengeful spirits, dark emotions all in a bad dream. This is: happy memories, no spirits, happy emotions in a dream that vaguely hints at the real nature of reality just beneath the surface. As if one spirit is cradling another into this reality. As for which spirit is starting it The Puppet seems to now be the only answer, they have enough knowledge of what's happening as well as the compassion to actively help others achieve a happiest day. As for the informed, I'd assume Michael...after all, he's had his guts scooped out and his corpse is being puppeteered by a mass of Remnant, his spirit is gone. Thus either the trace amounts of Remnant or Michael's soul directly are the informed. However, this also likely informed the various spirits involved with FNaF 3's minigames. Note: FNaF World's cutscenes would inform the informees of: the phantoms' existence, the nightmares' existence, Shadow Bonnie, the crying spirit (likely Cassidy) and Springtrap being a murderer. This'd keep them all on the same wavelength and mostly inform the soulless Michael and the Golden Freddy-possessing CC of Afton's reputation for being a bit of an asshole. For FNaF 3, Mike's Remnant-puppetered body seems to put the pieces in place for the minigames to begin, meaning they were likely informed at least in some part. In the minigames, this seems to be a collaborative effort of various spirits: BB, Mangle, Toy Chica, Fredbear (Assumedly CC), Shadow Bonnie (Not a spirit, just a mass of Agony that protects spirits, but hey) and The Puppet. Cassidy would ascend as her once-trashed memory now becomes her happiest day. Once this is done and the cast arrives, Happiest Day ensues and the FNaF 1 cast ascends. Now for Pizza Simulator, this COULD leave Molten Freddy controlled by a mass of Remnant and possibly CC if you assume Golden Freddy's suit was shattered and stolen of it's remnant and then mix-and-matched around (which would explain his refurbishment). This'd also leave Lefty as a mass of Remnant from The Puppet ascending or perhaps she came back just to make sure all the Remnant is gone or to protect CC - so long as there's someone to protect, she'd have a reason to stay. If it doesn't though, it'd fit with the narrative of Afton's fucked up family: just hunks of metal controlled by the remains of dead children, gone not just in body, but now also in spirit. As for UCN, this leaves the following suspects: CC (assuming he never ascended during Happiest Day or Pizza Sim), Michael (His floating spirit is likely still pissed off at his dad for that whole SL thing) and an unnamed random third victim added in.
Also for the whole SoullesMichael^tm thing: The Scooper is stated to give trace amounts of Remnant - Remnant being anything from traces of a spirit post-ascension, or a spirit still attached to metal even when liquified. Either way, Michael would have died during the Scooper and his spirit would have been booted out before Ennard could enter and Michael joining it (but tbf, if it did, it'd mean Molten Freddy would have the entire Afton Family in it, barring William and likely Mrs Afton). Without a metal suit to latch on, Michael would just be an astral observer. No Happiest Day to ascend to, and no body to use. From here, he could pop in Golden Freddy with his younger bro (which'd make "It's Me" mean Michael is informing his own rotting corpse that it's his original soul (Holy shit, DSAF is canon)) and would further give credit to MichaelTOYSNHK. Or, he could simply be a passive observer only coming in at specific times, such as UCN when his father's spirit is finally losing some grip on reality, letting him worm into his soul and torment him. TL:DR: Michael's soul is either in Molten Freddy, Golden Freddy or is just wandering with no hope for ascension.
I'm going to ask you a few questions, after all you've read the book and I'd like to hear your thoughts. 1-Is cassady basically a botleg puppet in the surivival logbock? 2-Is cassady also a "vengeful spirit" in most of the story but in the moment that she realy needs it she just leaves the torture to Andrew for nothing? 3-If so why is golden freddy so present in UCN? 4-WHERE DA FUCK DOES ANDREW FITS IN?
The book doesn't tackle these questions. 1- no 2- all the five kids are vengeful spirits 3- Golden Freddy (Or at least Cassidy) isn't present in UCN. 4- that is up for you to decide. For me he is the one you should not have killed.
@sambar2772 Golden Fred is at the ending and we have the Fredbear Easter egg. He at least has to mean something thematically for UCN. The theory that I believe in is that Golden Freddy, Cassidy and BV are atleast linked to UCN by the OMC Easter egg, which itself connects to FNaF World and all the lore behind FNAF Happiest Day
Ok at this point scott and this franchise is starting to piss me off. We already have the debate of what books are in the games continuity and now this? We have like 3 versions of this story and the “what ifs” from the interactive book on top. This is mental fnaf is the only ip where creator doesn’t clarify continuities and timelines
Seriously, I’m just going to share a small opinion on this because if I do say what I believe and don’t believe, people are gonna riot over it and start dogpiling RTTP. I don’t think RTTP was necessary and it would’ve been better to have the ITP Game be the main focus instead. All RTTP did is made both sides of the community have a point, but now impossible to choose one another due to the massive “X theory is confirmed” & “Y theory is debunked” since all people are doing is finding answers to feel appreciated and win the conversation at all cost. This is why I gave up on the Vengeful Spirit and Book debate around the 10th anniversary, and I’m glad that this book is the point where I’m done with Frights and Vengeful Spirit debate. Trust me, I don’t wanna talk to people who are gonna get assholish and find a way to prove their opinions were right when, 1. They changed their minds and say they’ve been on that route 2. They act like their opinions matter to their own self And 3. They want to solve the lore because they’re tired over Scott’s vagueness. After reading the entire book for good, I end up making a rant post about it and it seems like I was dissatisfied with it since it was boring and it felt like 3 things were shoved into one when you could’ve done 2 Interactive Novels about the two unique routes and just call it good just so a retelling of ITP can fit well. I think the ITP Game had a far much better retelling of the story and I’m actually disappointed that RTTP didn’t do anything unique at all. And with Andrew, I just don’t give a living care about that kid since he’s the reason the Frights debate is nonsensical and a Tom Foolery to debate about. In my mind, I just picture Cassidy and Andrew to be twins due to them having curly hair and associated with William and UCN in general. It’s just that I want to ignore theorizing on Andrew until Scott has the balls of steel to clarify a thing or two. So personally, RTTP is the Bane of FNAF. But I’m accepting it despite my savage guts, hope people keeps things sane with what’s going on with this book.
Yes and no. The ball pit allows you to travel into an agony recreation of the day of the MCI, and even though it isn’t fully accurate to that day, you’re still able to make changes to the memory that affect the real world.
@@berniebare371 In a more thorough explanation: It's similar to a mass illusion. People who go in seem to be transported into a UCN-type realm where memories, emotions, dreams, etc all related to the MCI coalesce into an "exaggerated" replication of it. Which is why William is seen as a rabbitoid monster mimicking both a traditional rabid animal yet also a calculating killer. Do remember the changes to the real world involve objects inside of Jeff's Pizzeria, which is Freddy's but in the future. Phineas Taggart states antique objects, and pretty much any object, can hold the energy of events around them. Given Jeff's Pizza is Freddy's, it's likely that place is FULL of that sort of energy. Thus, when Yellow Rabbit smashes some doors or Oswald hangs a Paper Pal in 1985, the energy in Jeff's Pizzeria likely replicates those same events. So no, it's not Time Travel, not even remotely. It's closer to Memory Travel.
8:11 About this. That calendar is placed in an old classroom, which means that the calendar itself is probably old and was never updated. The classroom is abandoned probably because most people left the town and the og story says that the mill closed down 3 years prior to the events of itp, meaning that people began to leave around 3 years ago. 2018 (the old calendar) + 3 = 2021. 2021 also works better because it fits with the graphic novel, itpg website and the fact that vtubers are referenced in the game (and vtubers became really popular in 2019-2020, plus the vtuber that was referenced began streaming in late 2020).
Does it make sense? No but well it's still an option I guess
I believe Tick Tock is referenced in the book which adds to the it’s in 2020-2021 since tick tock became popular in 2020
@@HappyFrogRender6502 actually, I think this option works the best with everything we know about itp's timeline placement so far.
Well yeah I don't see why not
Theory: The Happiest Day in FNaF 3 is The Crying Child's, this is a 2nd Happiest Day
Before watching the video
Thank you sambar I was waiting for a video that fully went into return to the pits crazy craziness
I love your channel and I’m glad you make videos. I hope you have a great Christmas and a happy new year
Thank you so much :)
I really hope that people dont say this book isn’t canon. It’s been pissing me off lately that people are just gonna throw it away. If TWB and VIP and escape the pizzaplex are then this one would be too. I’ve seen ppl say confusing things to say that this book isn’t reliable…. if say ITP is canon then then so does RTTP
With the Into The Pit = Return To The Pit canon route, I've got to say that there are still some details that make Return To The Pit "contradict" Into The Pit
@ ya everyone knows that. But I rather believe a series of books that are more likely to be canon just like the other 2 than a spin-off game that was made for the fnaf anniversary and was never confirmed canon….. in every game in the timeline it states 5 MCI. Personally to me any other 6 victim that was mentioned I think it’s just Charlie. Even in the ITP mini game it’s more likely that the 6th victim is just Oswald and thw 7th hat is Charlie. This would make sense as in the grave scene in HW had Charlie the last one which lines up well with everything else
Yeah but in ITP, there are 6 kids while in RTTP there are 5
And Oswald's personality is also a bit altered
@ ya maybe bc….they aren’t in the the timeline 1:1 😏
umm, cool analysis & breakdown & amazing video, by the way, i don't thinks this book happens in the same community as the other games, or rather to say, the mainline games, but!, anyways from that. still an-incredible video,
So basically this book confirms that there are only 5 kids, Eleanor is fully confirmed, Cassidy is the Happiest Day recipient (which is bull unless BV is Cassidy or its not actually *The* Happiest Day and it's like one that is just for the MCI), ITP is 100% confirmed to be in 2018 which means FNAF 3 isn't in 2015, and that the balloon order in Security Breach with the coloured balloons is the order for the MCI victims deconfirming the grave order in HW2.
Your comment made me smile
@HappyFrogRender6502 your welcome 🙂🙃
Oh and where does it confirm that it happens in 2018? (People who don't believe it keep asking me and I don't know what it was)
@HappyFrogRender6502 the book confirms it takes place after 30 or more years with one on the paths have Oswald turn into an adult in their 40s. Oswald is 10 in the book so its 30 - 40 years and the calendar in the classroom in the game shows dates that only line up with the year 2018 within that timeframe which basically means adult Oswald is either 43 or 44
CassidyReceiver being confirmed is so fucking awesome
Yeah. I don’t see why people are complaining about it. I guess it’s because of CC not getting a happiest day is but who knows what happened to him. Maybe Fnaf world is his happiest day. (Though, I haven’t gotten to the clock ending)
@@captainet2457 The clock ending implies FNaF World is in deed CC's HD, and I couldn't be happier. He helped everyone by completing the clock mini games, and so got to move on; in turn, he enables the others to do so when his brother completes the FNaF 3 secret mini games.
@@flickyfkosstitcher8547 So Fnaf world IS CC happiest days? (I haven’t gotten the clock ending yet)
The 8-bit route could say that the day of the MCI was Cassidy's birthday. Sure it is about giving cake to someone in an 8-bit world, but aside from that, there isn't really any more evidence at CassidyReceiver. Then there is also the "4 games 1 story" thing which could be retconed but the information in the first 4 games seems to be consistent with simple errors like there being a party room in the FNaF 1 building (Which could've just been cealed by the time of FNaF 1).
@@HappyFrogRender6502 One thing that party room in the FNaF 1 building part reminded me of was TWB description of the building; in fact if it is the same room it raising the question of whether said room was sealed off just before Mike started his first shift in FNaF 1.
If some of the game overs and new game + is anything to go by, then in this version Oswald himself is the sixth child; I mean we're shown two of the boys and Cassidy in a picture, the book describes Suzie (a girl with curly hair), and the rabbit drags in the third boy, leaving Oswald as the potential sixth victim.
I think that is a good idea.
But I also really like the idea that maybe Oswald’s dad is one of Micheals friends (we’re all pretty sure Cassie’s dad is Bonnie bro) and so this new generation of games is about people who surrounded the Afton family.
@lucygarrett9785 Yeah, I also like that idea; it's a chance to see the possible ripple effects of the Afton story. In fact, I'm hoping the next/last book gives us a chance to learn more about Cassie's backstory, particularly with her dad.
Ik a lot of people are saying this book confirms Cassidy as being the HD receiver but we need to remember that this isn't the MCI, this is memories of the MCI and someone has to be the reciever in order for this ending to happen so they defaulted to Cassidy bc she is also a soul inside the Golden Freddy suit and the last MCI victim, plus, the real Happiest Day has already occurred after the FNAF 6 fire when William was sent into UCN by Andrew and the spirits are freed from Molten Freddy. If loop theory is true, then this means that Cassidy 100% has to still be alive because in the Fetch minigame we see that someone in the present day is still haunting the Golden Freddy suit as also seen in UCN which takes place after the HD as implied by the fact that the souls are no longer tied down by a suit as the Molten Freddy suit was destroyed and later on in Fazbear Fright's the Puppet's soul stays behind to defeat the Trash Afton Monster which is symbolic of the mask falling slower than the other HD kids as her spirit stays behind a little longer to finish the job and kill Afton before being freed. A lot of people are ignoring the fact that she literally shows up, unwilling to depart in UCN.
ITPLoop is pretty obviously canon. All these books seem to be loops in order to trap their protagonists. We never leave MOE in VIP, Ralph is trapped in a never ending remake of his final shift until he works with "Bronwyn" to set things right, and Oswald is trapped in a loop until he gets the coin and finally "SAVES THEM".
EtP is almost 100% gonna be about cassie reliving her special day due to the neural implant
I wouldn’t say that Cassidy being the happiest day receiver was obvious. All signs pointed to it being crying child. The birthday imagery, the layout of the building matching perfectly to Fredbear’s, and the character masks all matched up perfectly with crying child and it would have been a satisfying end to his character after the tragedy he faced in fnaf 4. But no instead it was Cassidy all along, a character we know basically nothing about and a character who doesn’t have any reason to be as important as she is. Don’t get me wrong; from what I’ve heard from this book it sounds great, I just wish they gave the happiest day ending to cc. I think it would have been more satisfying.
Any idea who that green camo/tank top girl is in the avengers? (I think she might be a kid from the past but idk who)
Wym Cassidy is obviously the Happiest Day receiver. Than what was the point of FNAF 4 at all? I mean it's possible, but I'd really like to see an explanation on that stance
The point of FNaF 4 has always been to give Afton some back story by showing you the relationship between his kids. BV receiver has ALWAYS been a fan theory that started due to FNaF World's clock ending and the mirroring of HD to create the map of Fredbear's.
The fact you could take FNaF 4 out of the equation and NOTHING about HD changes (then again, FNaF 4 was never supposed to exist in the first); not to mention Scott specifically showing Cassidy on the HD page of the logbook, not CC, proves that it was always for her.
@@flickyfkosstitcher8547The girl in The Logbook page isn't confirmed to be Cassidy. Sure it references Happiest Day with The Puppet giving cake to a kid, but that's the only reference. In The Fourth Closet she has *long* black hair, and in The Fourth Closet Graphic Novel she has *long brown* hair, and in Return To The Pit itself she has *curly* black hair and *not short black hair*. If you believe the new things presented in the multiple Return To The Pit endings are reliable, Cassidy's design don't really match up with the girl in the Logbook page.
The 8-bit route could just imply that the day of the MCI was her birthday. Aside from giving cake to a kid in an 8-bit world, there are no more coincidences. And then there are the similarities between Happiest Day and the FNaF 4 minigames.
@@HappyFrogRender6502 I will agree the visual portrayal of Cassidy is inconsistent, and thus awkward to pin down exactly which one she is. Heck, I remember on the 10th of June 2018 the TH-cam channel Treesicle proposed Cassidy was potentially the Crying Child due to what's in the logbook, even though they proposed that Cassidy and Crying Child were two separate entities that both possess Golden Freddy on the 19th of May 2017.
If CassidyReciever is true, this changes it a bit.
The events leading up to HD is as follows:
FNaF World (Setting up breadcrumbs) > FNaF 3 (Mike putting the pieces in place) > FNaF 3 Minigames (Events are completed) > Happiest Day (nah, no way lad)
FNaF World is kind of a UCN-flip, instead of a collage of: bad memories, vengeful spirits, dark emotions all in a bad dream. This is: happy memories, no spirits, happy emotions in a dream that vaguely hints at the real nature of reality just beneath the surface. As if one spirit is cradling another into this reality. As for which spirit is starting it The Puppet seems to now be the only answer, they have enough knowledge of what's happening as well as the compassion to actively help others achieve a happiest day. As for the informed, I'd assume Michael...after all, he's had his guts scooped out and his corpse is being puppeteered by a mass of Remnant, his spirit is gone. Thus either the trace amounts of Remnant or Michael's soul directly are the informed. However, this also likely informed the various spirits involved with FNaF 3's minigames.
Note: FNaF World's cutscenes would inform the informees of: the phantoms' existence, the nightmares' existence, Shadow Bonnie, the crying spirit (likely Cassidy) and Springtrap being a murderer. This'd keep them all on the same wavelength and mostly inform the soulless Michael and the Golden Freddy-possessing CC of Afton's reputation for being a bit of an asshole.
For FNaF 3, Mike's Remnant-puppetered body seems to put the pieces in place for the minigames to begin, meaning they were likely informed at least in some part.
In the minigames, this seems to be a collaborative effort of various spirits: BB, Mangle, Toy Chica, Fredbear (Assumedly CC), Shadow Bonnie (Not a spirit, just a mass of Agony that protects spirits, but hey) and The Puppet. Cassidy would ascend as her once-trashed memory now becomes her happiest day.
Once this is done and the cast arrives, Happiest Day ensues and the FNaF 1 cast ascends.
Now for Pizza Simulator, this COULD leave Molten Freddy controlled by a mass of Remnant and possibly CC if you assume Golden Freddy's suit was shattered and stolen of it's remnant and then mix-and-matched around (which would explain his refurbishment). This'd also leave Lefty as a mass of Remnant from The Puppet ascending or perhaps she came back just to make sure all the Remnant is gone or to protect CC - so long as there's someone to protect, she'd have a reason to stay. If it doesn't though, it'd fit with the narrative of Afton's fucked up family: just hunks of metal controlled by the remains of dead children, gone not just in body, but now also in spirit.
As for UCN, this leaves the following suspects: CC (assuming he never ascended during Happiest Day or Pizza Sim), Michael (His floating spirit is likely still pissed off at his dad for that whole SL thing) and an unnamed random third victim added in.
Also for the whole SoullesMichael^tm thing:
The Scooper is stated to give trace amounts of Remnant - Remnant being anything from traces of a spirit post-ascension, or a spirit still attached to metal even when liquified. Either way, Michael would have died during the Scooper and his spirit would have been booted out before Ennard could enter and Michael joining it (but tbf, if it did, it'd mean Molten Freddy would have the entire Afton Family in it, barring William and likely Mrs Afton).
Without a metal suit to latch on, Michael would just be an astral observer. No Happiest Day to ascend to, and no body to use. From here, he could pop in Golden Freddy with his younger bro (which'd make "It's Me" mean Michael is informing his own rotting corpse that it's his original soul (Holy shit, DSAF is canon)) and would further give credit to MichaelTOYSNHK. Or, he could simply be a passive observer only coming in at specific times, such as UCN when his father's spirit is finally losing some grip on reality, letting him worm into his soul and torment him.
TL:DR: Michael's soul is either in Molten Freddy, Golden Freddy or is just wandering with no hope for ascension.
Or Return To The Pit implies that the day of the MCI was Cassidy's birthday
I'm going to ask you a few questions, after all you've read the book and I'd like to hear your thoughts.
1-Is cassady basically a botleg puppet in the surivival logbock?
2-Is cassady also a "vengeful spirit" in most of the story but in the moment that she realy needs it she just leaves the torture to Andrew for nothing?
3-If so why is golden freddy so present in UCN?
4-WHERE DA FUCK DOES ANDREW FITS IN?
The book doesn't tackle these questions.
1- no
2- all the five kids are vengeful spirits
3- Golden Freddy (Or at least Cassidy) isn't present in UCN.
4- that is up for you to decide. For me he is the one you should not have killed.
@sambar2772 Golden Fred is at the ending and we have the Fredbear Easter egg. He at least has to mean something thematically for UCN. The theory that I believe in is that Golden Freddy, Cassidy and BV are atleast linked to UCN by the OMC Easter egg, which itself connects to FNaF World and all the lore behind FNAF Happiest Day
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Ok at this point scott and this franchise is starting to piss me off. We already have the debate of what books are in the games continuity and now this? We have like 3 versions of this story and the “what ifs” from the interactive book on top. This is mental fnaf is the only ip where creator doesn’t clarify continuities and timelines
Seriously, I’m just going to share a small opinion on this because if I do say what I believe and don’t believe, people are gonna riot over it and start dogpiling RTTP.
I don’t think RTTP was necessary and it would’ve been better to have the ITP Game be the main focus instead.
All RTTP did is made both sides of the community have a point, but now impossible to choose one another due to the massive “X theory is confirmed” & “Y theory is debunked” since all people are doing is finding answers to feel appreciated and win the conversation at all cost.
This is why I gave up on the Vengeful Spirit and Book debate around the 10th anniversary, and I’m glad that this book is the point where I’m done with Frights and Vengeful Spirit debate.
Trust me, I don’t wanna talk to people who are gonna get assholish and find a way to prove their opinions were right when,
1. They changed their minds and say they’ve been on that route
2. They act like their opinions matter to their own self
And 3. They want to solve the lore because they’re tired over Scott’s vagueness.
After reading the entire book for good, I end up making a rant post about it and it seems like I was dissatisfied with it since it was boring and it felt like 3 things were shoved into one when you could’ve done 2 Interactive Novels about the two unique routes and just call it good just so a retelling of ITP can fit well.
I think the ITP Game had a far much better retelling of the story and I’m actually disappointed that RTTP didn’t do anything unique at all.
And with Andrew, I just don’t give a living care about that kid since he’s the reason the Frights debate is nonsensical and a Tom Foolery to debate about.
In my mind, I just picture Cassidy and Andrew to be twins due to them having curly hair and associated with William and UCN in general. It’s just that I want to ignore theorizing on Andrew until Scott has the balls of steel to clarify a thing or two.
So personally, RTTP is the Bane of FNAF. But I’m accepting it despite my savage guts, hope people keeps things sane with what’s going on with this book.
So the pit is really a time travel pit or something?
Maybe looptheory hold up better.
Yes and no. The ball pit allows you to travel into an agony recreation of the day of the MCI, and even though it isn’t fully accurate to that day, you’re still able to make changes to the memory that affect the real world.
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In a more thorough explanation: It's similar to a mass illusion. People who go in seem to be transported into a UCN-type realm where memories, emotions, dreams, etc all related to the MCI coalesce into an "exaggerated" replication of it. Which is why William is seen as a rabbitoid monster mimicking both a traditional rabid animal yet also a calculating killer.
Do remember the changes to the real world involve objects inside of Jeff's Pizzeria, which is Freddy's but in the future.
Phineas Taggart states antique objects, and pretty much any object, can hold the energy of events around them. Given Jeff's Pizza is Freddy's, it's likely that place is FULL of that sort of energy.
Thus, when Yellow Rabbit smashes some doors or Oswald hangs a Paper Pal in 1985, the energy in Jeff's Pizzeria likely replicates those same events.
So no, it's not Time Travel, not even remotely. It's closer to Memory Travel.
@CottonArsonist do you have an explanation for why the ball pit disappears when the Yellow Rabbit dies?
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So uh does return to the pit mean that the game is not canon?
All versions are Canon
Each more identical and different than the last
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Yes
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