The only people complaining about reliability are people that don't own one and are spouting a very outdated and uninformed narrative. As a mechanic of 33 years I can tell you that the most unreliable Euros are BMW and Mercedes. The only thing Alfa lacks is a comprehensive dealer network.
I agree with you on that. I work at a dealership and I can tell you. Alfa Romeo should require that there are designated "satellite stores" just to create a nice web of service across the country. Just require certain Dodge dealerships a trained and designated Alfa Romeo technician and Alfa Romeo service advisor. This would be a constructive way to secure a network and satisfy customer confidence.
@@jimparsons9961 Exactly! Moving to Alaska next year and would love to grab a new stelvio qv... not having a dealership in the whole state is a killer. Having to look at a gle amg or macan turbo instead which is just heartbreaking.
I have a 2018 Stelvio ti sport. I have to first say, as a 54 year old woman, the best car I have ever owned. I loved that car so much. Fun to drive, tight turns, and looks so cool. I was in an accident with it three days ago. Was rear ended while stopped. Driver was going about 35 miles an hour, deployed airbags hit car in front of me. Ended up as a six car accident with my car getting the brunt of the damage. He did a great job protecting me. Unfortunately it was totaled and I will need a new car soon, guess what my first choice is gonna be? Oh, he only had 19,000 miles too.
Yeah my Stelvio got totaled recently by a thief who joyrided it into a house. I love the car so much. I looked around at what else is out there today-Teslas, Mercedes, BMWs, Cadillacs, Audis, Maserati, Land Rover, etc. But after honestly considering all the options, I am buying another Stelvio, because there just isn't anything in its price range that comes close. To me it's not even about the way the car looks on the outside. It's a nice looking car but, it's not a Corvette C8. Rather, what I love about Stelvio is the overall ergonomics and simplicity of the cabin layout. Without taking my eyes off the road, I can change the radio station, adjust the climate controls, turn on/off the headed steering wheel and heated seats, use Siri, make a phone call, turn off the infotainment screen or adjust its brightness, change drive modes, shift gears, etc. Combine that with the sure-footed handling, excellent braking, and I really feel so safe on the road while driving this. I feel confident that I could dodge anything. It feels more like driving a VW Golf or WRX STI, than like an SUV. I also love the way Alfa implemented Adaptive cruise with stop-and-go. It's like, all you have to do is steer, and the car does everything else. So nice. The seats are the most comfortable I've ever felt in a car, personally, and I'm 6' 3" with scoliosis. Seat comfort is a BIG deal to me, and the Alfa heated seats in Stelvio are just... total perfection. I can sit perfectly straight up, head never grazes the roof, and can you never feel thrown around. It's just night-and-day more comfortable than the Cadillac XT5 I have on rental while waiting for replacement Stelvio. The fact that Stelvio is "fun to drive" on top of all that, well, that's just gravy. Good handling is firstly a safety feature.
If you haven’t found one I sell vehicles ma’am ! Hope all is well either way, I’m here now cause I’m flirting with the idea of my first SUV and I want to do it different 🚗
I bought stelvio before one year i drive across the desert of saudi arabia in july for 800km in 50 c very hot weather, really it was strong car no heat in engine and AC was freezen. I love it this car much
Headline was deceptive. The video was just another boring review. We wanted a video on "Is it actually reliable" Gave you a thumbs down for the deception.
thank you for your message. I am looking for a reliable car and will consider this brand. Does your car burn oil? My friend told me turbo engine always burns oil.
I love mine. 2018 TI Sport bought new. Now has over 60k miles on it and the only issues I've had are some minor electrical issues (like many Italian cars) Mechanical function has been flawless.
Electrical issues are kind of typical on cars with high use of electronic. …which are almost all of them. Also, electronic stuff comes from the same suppliers. For instance, look at the Stelvio: Adaptive Cruise Control (with radar) and autonomous driving it’s from Bosch. Fly-by-wire brake system is from Continental.
Has your experience with it still been pleasant? Looking into getting one but I’m worried about the reliability! I’ve heard mixed reviews. How many miles does yours have?
Has your experience with it still been pleasant? Looking into getting one but I’m worried about the reliability! I’ve heard mixed reviews. How many miles does yours have?
I love my Alfa TI sport! For the money you spend on one, you can’t beat how they drive. Bet you can’t drive one without smiling. No issues at all with mine.
Benny... The Stelvio is a solid vehicle! most reliable in its segment.. A solid MultiAir SOHC mated to a ZF 8sp simply the best low cost and most power engine in its class. nothing keeps up, not even a Porsche Macan! Enjoy!
Of course it's impossible, but true reliability would show from 3-10 years, making about 15-20k miles per year, regular service intervals, people not pushing the car too hard at every opportunity. People having it from new up to 3 years with no complaints... I think you'd be hard pressed to find a car that breaks down within first couple of years. Then there is driving style and servicing intervals. If you buy a golf GTI, BMW M, or Audi S, you don't buy it to drive it nicely, 20-something year olds get it, they push the pedal to the metal no matter if the engine is warm or cold, they don't check for oil, stretch service intervals, cheap out on oil and filters. And then those cars are infamous for being unreliable. So I don't know. I've got a megane III, bought at 3 years old, now 14, over 160k miles, the only actual problem was the AC cooler, had to replace it no less than 3 times, because the aluminum alloy used is of really bad quality. Other than that, no issues. Replaced brakes/discs when they got used up, replaced shocks when necessary, replaced clutch once, all those things were due to usage, not faults. So that's what I'd call reliable and that's what I expect from my next car. What I don't want to experience is random electric faults, car going into limp mode for no apparent reason, engine turning off for no apparent reason, check engine light, DPF filter getting clogged, sensors failing, things like that. No word on that with Stelvio here. Again, if it's 3 years old, low mileage and no issues, it doesn't mean it's reliable.
Don’t want to give you a thumbs down , but the video didn’t show anything about reliability as it says. Sorry, but I can’t give you a thumbs up either though. Would have been a pretty good video if this was what I was looking for.
Everybody knows Italian cars have electrical problems. I've had two Alfa Romeos. They've had three broken electrical components. Two of them were made by Bosch, one made by VDO. Made in Germany.
my heart aches for a stelvio too. but I don't have money again, second-hand, cat in the bag... now it should be 23,000 euros second-hand, as unlucky as I am, I'll have to change the turbo, dual-mass flywheel, the heart line will be coked, I'll have problems with the dpf filter... don't give me anything, there's something wrong with the engine. .that's a lot of money to fix..
I wanted to know more about the mechanics and build of the car and NOT the looks or how "fun" it was!! I want one as my retirement car this year but I've heard such bad things.
I have a 2018 stelvio TI sport well actually my wife has that I have a jaguar 98 XK8 convertible in mint condition I rather drive the stelvio hands down and I love Jaguar if I had a new Jaguar I probably wouldn't be having this conversation but as an everyday car and fun-to-drive awesome I had several cars in the past including Ferrari in this stelvio handles and moves as quick as them good night friends
@@JIMMY-ck1oe Yeah the car is pretty reliable my mom has had it for about a year and a half no problems besides one time where we had to jump start it cause it had no power after it sat outside on a really cold day. Besides that it has been perfect.
thinking about the location of the ignition button. what if i accidentally push it while driving? will it shut off the engine and might possibly cause an accident?
It's not that easy to press, and it's in a location where your hands never reach while driving. But the gear leaver (mode selector button) while shifting manually is very easy to press by mistake. Use paddles or leave it in Automatic
I'm scheduled to get my Electronic Throttle Engine Control looked at next week! I hav had my 2018 ARS since August and it did something crazy on the highway 3 times in the last 4 months! It had 18k miles when I got it and is now at 24k...I was not expecting issues this soon!🤦🏽♀️
Everybody knows Italian cars are unreliable. All but those who actually own them and replace them with other Italian cars. Unfortunately, the word that sticks is the one from everybody that doesn’t own them. And unfortunately the Italian car industry is suffering from it, while everybody is experience reliability problems with the German offerings that are well built, but unreliable. The car industry is a sad business. 😊
Just as unreliable as any other European car. So if you can own a BMW or VW you can own an Alfa. I had a MK7 Golf TsI which had the worst transmission, dealer said they can’t do anything about, would making pre ignition sound at low rpm and high load, horrible infotainment. These were too major to ignore so I just sold it to a teenager who “just had to have a Golf”. My 2018 Stelvio had almost zero problems. So all this garbage about Alfa being unreliable is just nonsense. There will be lemons, but I’ve been impressed so far, it has tons of power, quicker than a lighter F30 328i.
@@JIMMY-ck1oe I don’t know. Toyotas are very reliable but they aren’t as fun as European cars. Oil consumption of 1 liter every 6000 miles is extremely good in my opinion. As a comparison Audi won’t fix their engines even if it consumes liter every 1000 miles.
I'm afraid I don't like videos that advertise a subject (i.e. 'reliability') but then never say a word about it!
EXACTLY
The only people complaining about reliability are people that don't own one and are spouting a very outdated and uninformed narrative. As a mechanic of 33 years I can tell you that the most unreliable Euros are BMW and Mercedes. The only thing Alfa lacks is a comprehensive dealer network.
I think that extends to all brands. I also think it stems from jealously.
Good to get real information. I've had my giulietta for 10 years and she's never missed a beat, including road trips for thousands of miles at a time.
I agree with you on that. I work at a dealership and I can tell you. Alfa Romeo should require that there are designated "satellite stores" just to create a nice web of service across the country. Just require certain Dodge dealerships a trained and designated Alfa Romeo technician and Alfa Romeo service advisor. This would be a constructive way to secure a network and satisfy customer confidence.
@@jimparsons9961 Exactly! Moving to Alaska next year and would love to grab a new stelvio qv... not having a dealership in the whole state is a killer. Having to look at a gle amg or macan turbo instead which is just heartbreaking.
GET THE ALFA!!! Go through Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep (Also FCA) dealerships!!! They will be able to help!
I have a 2018 Stelvio ti sport. I have to first say, as a 54 year old woman, the best car I have ever owned. I loved that car so much. Fun to drive, tight turns, and looks so cool. I was in an accident with it three days ago. Was rear ended while stopped. Driver was going about 35 miles an hour, deployed airbags hit car in front of me. Ended up as a six car accident with my car getting the brunt of the damage. He did a great job protecting me. Unfortunately it was totaled and I will need a new car soon, guess what my first choice is gonna be? Oh, he only had 19,000 miles too.
Yeah my Stelvio got totaled recently by a thief who joyrided it into a house. I love the car so much. I looked around at what else is out there today-Teslas, Mercedes, BMWs, Cadillacs, Audis, Maserati, Land Rover, etc. But after honestly considering all the options, I am buying another Stelvio, because there just isn't anything in its price range that comes close.
To me it's not even about the way the car looks on the outside. It's a nice looking car but, it's not a Corvette C8.
Rather, what I love about Stelvio is the overall ergonomics and simplicity of the cabin layout. Without taking my eyes off the road, I can change the radio station, adjust the climate controls, turn on/off the headed steering wheel and heated seats, use Siri, make a phone call, turn off the infotainment screen or adjust its brightness, change drive modes, shift gears, etc.
Combine that with the sure-footed handling, excellent braking, and I really feel so safe on the road while driving this. I feel confident that I could dodge anything. It feels more like driving a VW Golf or WRX STI, than like an SUV.
I also love the way Alfa implemented Adaptive cruise with stop-and-go. It's like, all you have to do is steer, and the car does everything else. So nice.
The seats are the most comfortable I've ever felt in a car, personally, and I'm 6' 3" with scoliosis. Seat comfort is a BIG deal to me, and the Alfa heated seats in Stelvio are just... total perfection. I can sit perfectly straight up, head never grazes the roof, and can you never feel thrown around. It's just night-and-day more comfortable than the Cadillac XT5 I have on rental while waiting for replacement Stelvio.
The fact that Stelvio is "fun to drive" on top of all that, well, that's just gravy. Good handling is firstly a safety feature.
It's sad only the rich can ride safely
Marie b I’m sure there are more affordable safe cars. I am by no means “rich”. I wonder if you actually looked at the prices.
If you haven’t found one I sell vehicles ma’am ! Hope all is well either way, I’m here now cause I’m flirting with the idea of my first SUV and I want to do it different 🚗
@@bmarie8965 actually they are not that expensive especially considering what you’re getting. And buying it 2/3 years used is an even better deal.
My 2020 Stelvio TI AWD has been flawless so far. Plus, it makes me happy when I drive it. 'Nuff said.
Can u tell me how much you got off of msrp?
@@l.y.3340 In Oct 2020, sticker said $55, 045, I paid $48, 402
Thanks for sharing. Crazy times now.. hope I get a similar deal with u.
@@l.y.3340 Godspeed!
What mpgs do you get on your stelvio?
My 2019 Stelvio has been flawless. I have no complaints. It’s an absolute joy to drive and gets looks from people all the time.
Everybody stairs ar ours with profound confused looks. It's kind of annoying.
I bought stelvio before one year i drive across the desert of saudi arabia in july for 800km in 50 c very hot weather, really it was strong car no heat in engine and AC was freezen. I love it this car much
Even the worst new car in the world can last 800 km. Come back after 180000 km and let us know
Headline was deceptive. The video was just another boring review. We wanted a video on "Is it actually reliable" Gave you a thumbs down for the deception.
Did I miss the part about the reliability?
Exactly! That's why I'm here.
This has nothing to do with the title. It is a review..... WTF.
Click bait...
I’ve had one for 4 years with 0 problems
thank you for your message. I am looking for a reliable car and will consider this brand. Does your car burn oil? My friend told me turbo engine always burns oil.
@@JIMMY-ck1oe I haven’t noticed any. I haven’t had to fill up the oil inbetween services
@@albroumand Is your alfa turbo engine?
@@JIMMY-ck1oe yes all alfa models available in US are
@@albroumand I will consider this one if it does not burn oil.thanks
I love mine. 2018 TI Sport bought new. Now has over 60k miles on it and the only issues I've had are some minor electrical issues (like many Italian cars) Mechanical function has been flawless.
I’m interested in purchasing a used Stelvio. Can you elaborate on what the electrical issues were that you encountered?
Electrical issues are kind of typical on cars with high use of electronic. …which are almost all of them.
Also, electronic stuff comes from the same suppliers. For instance, look at the Stelvio:
Adaptive Cruise Control (with radar) and autonomous driving it’s from Bosch.
Fly-by-wire brake system is from Continental.
I have a 2018 Maserati aside from my new stelvio and has not had any issues at all. I’m not a DIY I TAKE IT
to the dealer for
Service :)
The electronic problems comes mostly because of a poor quality battery. Change it for a high end end one and problems solved.
@@rogerboucher1913 Thanks! I no longer own the stelvio.
Bought 2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio 2 months ago. I love this handsome dude 😍
How much you paid for stelvio 2 months ago?
I just bought mines 2 months ago as well !! I hope she does me well ! I am hearing too many mixed reviews
Has your experience with it still been pleasant? Looking into getting one but I’m worried about the reliability! I’ve heard mixed reviews. How many miles does yours have?
I DONT GET IT ! I am interested if the car is reliable, not in a review of the car. Wth.,...I am tired of time wasters.
So this has nothing to do with reliability. What a stupid title. Be better.
Thanks for wasting everyone's time. You didn't even discuss reliability...
I have a 2018 Stelvio sport had for awhile and not 1 issue with the car runs like a dream traded my Benz for the Alfa Romeo
Has your experience with it still been pleasant? Looking into getting one but I’m worried about the reliability! I’ve heard mixed reviews. How many miles does yours have?
@Noahkinz yes no issues 3 1/2 yrs all I've done is change my brakes no problems thank God very reliable and I replaced the battery
None of the things you talked about mentioned anything to do with reliability. =/
Three year owner, for me, very reliable
You never mentioned anything about reliability just “oh it’s fun to drive” smh
Clickbait - no real info on reliability
It is a shame that the video does not talk much about the reliability. Therefore, the title is misleading.
Other than that it is alright video.
Thanks for the heads up. Saved me 11 mins of my time. Lol I need to know if this is reliable. So far I hear lexus is the most reliable. 😑
Watched the whole video and i still dont know if the car is reliable, which is the title of this video?
I love my Alfa TI sport! For the money you spend on one, you can’t beat how they drive. Bet you can’t drive one without smiling. No issues at all with mine.
Try taking some fast turns with it. It sticks so well. It is not even lowered.
I love taking corners quickly in my Stelvio. It’s definitely fun.
Benny... The Stelvio is a solid vehicle! most reliable in its segment.. A solid MultiAir SOHC mated to a ZF 8sp
simply the best low cost and most power engine in its class. nothing keeps up, not even a Porsche Macan! Enjoy!
Of course it's impossible, but true reliability would show from 3-10 years, making about 15-20k miles per year, regular service intervals, people not pushing the car too hard at every opportunity. People having it from new up to 3 years with no complaints... I think you'd be hard pressed to find a car that breaks down within first couple of years.
Then there is driving style and servicing intervals. If you buy a golf GTI, BMW M, or Audi S, you don't buy it to drive it nicely, 20-something year olds get it, they push the pedal to the metal no matter if the engine is warm or cold, they don't check for oil, stretch service intervals, cheap out on oil and filters. And then those cars are infamous for being unreliable. So I don't know.
I've got a megane III, bought at 3 years old, now 14, over 160k miles, the only actual problem was the AC cooler, had to replace it no less than 3 times, because the aluminum alloy used is of really bad quality. Other than that, no issues. Replaced brakes/discs when they got used up, replaced shocks when necessary, replaced clutch once, all those things were due to usage, not faults. So that's what I'd call reliable and that's what I expect from my next car. What I don't want to experience is random electric faults, car going into limp mode for no apparent reason, engine turning off for no apparent reason, check engine light, DPF filter getting clogged, sensors failing, things like that. No word on that with Stelvio here. Again, if it's 3 years old, low mileage and no issues, it doesn't mean it's reliable.
Great car..get in and be happy every time🤗
Did this video even touch on the subject of reliability?
Is it reliable?
Don’t want to give you a thumbs down
, but the video didn’t show anything about reliability as it says.
Sorry, but I can’t give you a thumbs up either though.
Would have been a pretty good video if this was what I was looking for.
the title and the video have 0 connection👎
not a bad review, bad heading to the video - one phrase about reliability in the whole video about a car that has just 25K miles.
Everybody knows Italian cars have electrical problems. I've had two Alfa Romeos. They've had three broken electrical components. Two of them were made by Bosch, one made by VDO. Made in Germany.
How much was the maintenance?
So do you not recommend buying a used 2019?
@@josephineramos3199 I am also looking for a reliable car. Which one is your choice?
What's up with this fix a flat BS. I'm a girly girl, I don't pretend to know or want to fix a flat. Can't I get a spare tire with this vehicle????
Good car to lease when new.
@footballcoreano copy and paste be like:
So Very Nice To Alfa Romero 😊😊😊
Romeo please! Not Romero
BMW WHO ?
You talk a little too quick and you chop words. Take your time, you're doing good
Where exactly is the reliability question answered here?
my heart aches for a stelvio too. but I don't have money again, second-hand, cat in the bag... now it should be 23,000 euros second-hand, as unlucky as I am, I'll have to change the turbo, dual-mass flywheel, the heart line will be coked, I'll have problems with the dpf filter... don't give me anything, there's something wrong with the engine. .that's a lot of money to fix..
Great review! does it need premium gas? or can it use regular gas just fine?
Premium
You can use regular. You lose some power and efficiency. Comes down to budget.
Don't ever use anything besides 91 or higher in anything with a supercharger or Turbo, otherwise the replacements will be a headache
I wanted to know more about the mechanics and build of the car and NOT the looks or how "fun" it was!! I want one as my retirement car this year but I've heard such bad things.
My mom owns a 2020 stelvio, it had a few electrical bugs that’s made it be left in the shop and it only has 14k miles
Change the battery for a good one.
I’m about to get one
Beautiful car in white color
Is it me or the gas and break pedals have been beat to hell sheesh 👀
Awesome video👍
*Pretty idiotic video when you look at the video title. Apple to oranges.*
I have a 2018 stelvio TI sport well actually my wife has that I have a jaguar 98 XK8 convertible in mint condition I rather drive the stelvio hands down and I love Jaguar if I had a new Jaguar I probably wouldn't be having this conversation but as an everyday car and fun-to-drive awesome I had several cars in the past including Ferrari in this stelvio handles and moves as quick as them good night friends
My nephew had to return his Q4 version, engine problem.
My mom got one of theses and I think it is amazing
Is your alfa romeo reliable?
@@JIMMY-ck1oe Yeah the car is pretty reliable my mom has had it for about a year and a half no problems besides one time where we had to jump start it cause it had no power after it sat outside on a really cold day. Besides that it has been perfect.
@@dahackel2294 Thanks for your information. It seems alfa is more reliable than benz or bmw. Am I right?
Lack of a dealership network should be a deal breaker for most. Considering how many other options exist, why buy this?
Because it's unique and more fun for people who like Italian design
thinking about the location of the ignition button. what if i accidentally push it while driving? will it shut off the engine and might possibly cause an accident?
+1, I have that question too
It's not that easy to press, and it's in a location where your hands never reach while driving. But the gear leaver (mode selector button) while shifting manually is very easy to press by mistake. Use paddles or leave it in Automatic
It's a carryover from formula 1. Pretty sure it would not but that would be a good test...
No
My gosh, slow down yu talk
The shortiest of shifts lol
I read somewhere that ARs have a 40% electrical problem rate in the first 2 years of ownership. Anyone else heard that?
Wow
I'm scheduled to get my Electronic Throttle Engine Control looked at next week! I hav had my 2018 ARS since August and it did something crazy on the highway 3 times in the last 4 months! It had 18k miles when I got it and is now at 24k...I was not expecting issues this soon!🤦🏽♀️
@@angeniquehopkins5246 Sorry to hear it. I love the look of the ARs. I wish I dared buy one. 😔
Its the battery. The original varta batteries are a problem. Once replaced all is good
@@cocheshiperdesportivos7181 Hadn't heard that. Good to know.
If your comparing that for reliability I wouldn’t touch it with a 10 foot pole. Especially if it’s used.
Can you test a Stelvio Estrema please Ben! That thing looks so sexy!
What year is this?
I'm thinking 2020... mine it's identical and it's a 2020 so
Everybody knows Italian cars are unreliable. All but those who actually own them and replace them with other Italian cars.
Unfortunately, the word that sticks is the one from everybody that doesn’t own them. And unfortunately the Italian car industry is suffering from it, while everybody is experience reliability problems with the German offerings that are well built, but unreliable.
The car industry is a sad business.
😊
Which car brand is reliable? I have LEXUS which is quite reliable.
Sorry but is not a good idea to buy one the Stelvio has a great design an a quadrifoglio type super fast but the reliable issues continues
My stelvio has had zero reliability issues, just fyi
Which one did you own and please elaborate on the problems that you encountered.
The back looks like Hyundai
A luxurious and kind of fast Toyota Venza :)
Definitely not like a Venza
@@alh06 size wise
@@thearcadeventures yea
Evidently you’ve never driven one. Take a test drive, you may change your mind. 😃
I'm afraid this SUV will give me problems.....top performance in it's class tho
Awesome
Just as unreliable as any other European car. So if you can own a BMW or VW you can own an Alfa. I had a MK7 Golf TsI which had the worst transmission, dealer said they can’t do anything about, would making pre ignition sound at low rpm and high load, horrible infotainment. These were too major to ignore so I just sold it to a teenager who “just had to have a Golf”. My 2018 Stelvio had almost zero problems. So all this garbage about Alfa being unreliable is just nonsense. There will be lemons, but I’ve been impressed so far, it has tons of power, quicker than a lighter F30 328i.
Does your alfa romeo burn oil? My friend told me the common problem of turbo engine is always burning oil.
@@JIMMY-ck1oe it does burn oil, 1 liter every 6000 miles. Compare that to my Honda Accord Euro K24 iVTEC, 1 liter every 2000 miles.
@@155stw It seems the only choice for me is to choose LEXUS which is not burning oil. Am I right?
@@JIMMY-ck1oe I don’t know. Toyotas are very reliable but they aren’t as fun as European cars. Oil consumption of 1 liter every 6000 miles is extremely good in my opinion. As a comparison Audi won’t fix their engines even if it consumes liter every 1000 miles.
@@155stw Thank you for you suggestion.
Dash is flashing… problem. . You had another problem with glove box . So we know you don’t own one …
is Like a Toyota Venza
Definitely not
@@alh06 what What This Alfa Romeo Stelvio Competes With
@@rakhsiprayogo82 Not the Venza, don't troll
@@alh06 How About Venza Competes with
@@rakhsiprayogo82 It does not. Enough troll.
simplistic
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treating complex issues and problems as if they were much simpler than they really are
Is it reliable?
Search it lol
@@brandon6541 - I did. I was hoping for good news.