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I was in Qingdao in 2014, teaching English, first time in China, little to no language skills. I belonged to the idealist/culture-freak type but had a very quick and rough awakening when faced with the sheer dystopia, retarded rules, and quite simply, the ugliness of most of my surrounding even beneath a thin shiny veneer. This video brought back quaint memories bordering on the nightmarish. I agree, people can be nice when interacting casually (though not always), but that doesn't take away the awkwardness of it all. I remember that I had to buy a train ticket, but the counters at the station didn't want to deal with me so I had to use an agency. Only, the girl at the agency got the wrong ticket, for a different date and destination, and I only found out because I showed it to a friend one day before departure. I went back to have it changed, the girl said that I needed to buy a new one because that ticket could not be changed! I said, maybe YOU have to buy a new one, not me, since I asked for something else and you even got a commission for doing this service. At the end, after a bit of arguing, she changed my ticket but gave me a lecture on how selfish I was, a foreigner, forcing a Chinese to humiliate herself and correct her mistake instead of simply just buying a new ticket! Needless to say, my China experience didn't last very long. I admire you guys for holding on to it for so many years, but my philosophy was, life's too short, sorry.
@@DB-vd3vy luckily, I just left the blasted country, and I wowed never to return again. It worked perfectly fine for me, thank you. P.s. I just said I had just arrived and had no language skills, go pandering your shilling somewhere else, thank you.
I've told you before, but I will keep telling you: these videos are fantastic. Those 50 minutes went by so quickly they felt like 20. Really happy with how much interesting and revealing stuff comes up when reviewing footage. And thank you for talking about the struggles of chinese people.
When I read your comment, I was thinking, "Wait, that was a 50min video?" I had to check the video timestamp... "Wow, yeah-- it was 50 mins long..." LOL
Well they're kind of stuck with this style since they're out of china but still making video about china. Is there nothing interesting about where ever they're at now?
One of your most interesting, informative videos ever. I learned A LOT. Talking about the switch being flipped when you're speaking Chinese to a local; I have the exact same experience with speaking French with my family. I was born and raised in an English province. When I first visit my family in a French province and speak French to them the first several times, they literally ask me to repeat. I speak near perfect French but it took them a bit to realise I was speaking THEIR language. After that it was fine. I think it's because they are trying to "listen in English", so when I speak French they don't understand. Great video. Glad you spoke about that.
They got a good point about the security cameras. Thieves and murders do not threat the existence of CCP, but people with a conscious mind do, and they are what the cameras are for.
This was something that freaked me out. Two years in, input from the instructors, tutors, friends, etc. Absolutely zero difference in response between day 1 and day 700. With Russian, I was able to get functional within months. With Mandarin, I could be at a pool entrance, in flip flops, towel, and swim trunks, pronounce everything perfectly; literally no other way to interpret my intent... I'd still be met with confused looks. At that point it hit me: "This might be out of my control."
@@jeygee3736 Yeah, maybe if circumstances or something were different, then I might not have stopped. The social stuff was kinda what killed it for me. How do I put it...? The 'wheels of social inclusion' seemed a lot more 'lubricated' with Russians than with Chinese. Between the extreme difficulty, and the general lack of enthusiasm of people I tried to practice with, I kinda started seeing the language as an exercise in masochism. I'm sure some people had glowing experiences with learning the language. I'm not one of them.
Loving these videos guys! What I loved about Your videos when I started watching them 3 years ago was getting to see some of the mundane yet interesting things on the Chinese streets! This kinda stuff is super interesting to me! Thanks!
40:24 I found this part interesting because I had read about such behavior in James Clavell's novels. Some Chinese characters in his books pretend to not understand the Chinese spoken by foreigners and then feel happy for taking the foreigners' "face" away by doing so. I'd assumed it's just fiction or perhaps 19th century psychology. Didn't expect to hear it happening even now. Do you think it could be a tactic to take "face" away to feel superior?
Ah, no Jay Gee; he means what he said. They are trying to humiliate the "white devil" so that they can prove to themselves that their own Chinese culture is superior. I worked in businesses for 10 years that were frequented by Chinese and this is exactly what they do. "Saving face" and "taking face" are fundamental to Chinese society. Sometimes I would have trouble understanding Chinese customers when they spoke to me in their poor English and they would often get very angry and start shouting at me in Chinese "You stupid foreigner; why do you make me lose face? You should speak to me in MY language, White Devil!" And this is in Sydney Australia, where the native language spoken is ENGLISH and these people had often lived here for 10 or 20 years but had just not bothered to learn to speak the local language of the country they had chosen to live in.
@@jeygee3736 In English we have these phrases "to lose face" and "to save face" right? This entered English from expats living in China long ago. In China, "face" is an important construct, 面子 or 臉. It's sort of like reputation, honour, or a feeling of self-worth. It makes it very difficult for Chinese people to, for example, accept that they did something wrong, or be persuaded that they made a mistake. Imagine you get into a taxi and speak Chinese to the driver. He's not expecting it so his brain farts for a moment and he says "I'm sorry I don't understand your language". You then continue speaking Chinese to him, and he begins to understand. But it's now a "face" matter. He won't lose face. So he doubles down on "not understanding you". See, he *can't* be wrong, you *must* be speaking a different language, even if you're speaking with 95% fluency. Equally though, if there is dislike for foreigners in the area, some people will pretend not to understand you specifically because they're trying to humiliate you; you lose face as you desperately try to communicate with someone who "can't understand". Contrast with pretty much anywhere else, like Japan or the US or the Middle East. People's brains may fart for a moment making them struggle to understand, and they may say something like "I don't understand what you are saying", but if you continue speaking their language they'll internally accept that they simply misunderstood, and will (now bright red from embarrassment) begin communicating, because they don't have to worry about a sociological construct like Face. You can't do much in China without understanding face. It affects pretty much everything. You know how Westerners get tattoos with Chinese characters sometimes, and sometimes the characters don't mean what they think they mean? If you tell a Westerner that their tattoo says "curried rice" and not "eternal dragon", they might not believe you, but they probably will sheepishly go to check later and have it altered or removed, or they'll eventually accept "yeah I made a mistake. But whatever, it *looks* cool at least right?" A similar thing happens in China with "English names". When dealing with foreigners (eg in education) they'll take on an "English name" to make it easier for the foreigner to remember them. Sometimes they pick wacky things, and other times they'll pick something that is so close to another word that it's obviously a mistake. As was covered on this channel, a girl took the English name "Rancy". Helpfully they tried to ask if she'd meant to choose "Nancy", but it had become a face matter. It wasn't a mistake, it was intentional. People in China will often stick with a clear and obvious mistake for a very, very long time, because changing it would mean admitting they were wrong, and result in loss of face. So they just dig their heels in, double down on being wrong, until there is some external force that gives them an opportunity to escape it without losing face.
@@Libra_Strings Because it isn't natural for the speaker, just like you. If we were to speak Spanish, I would be fine doing it but I'd be slow as I thought over my words. That would help you translate as I speak, as with natural speakers (unless the listener is fluent) the words are often said too fast. Then there's accents. Obviously everyone has one, no matter where you live. But if I spoke Spanish it would be with an upstate NY accent, aka the bland newscaster accent. But a natural speaker would likely have a Latinx accent which can alter the words, especially if you learned something with an American accent, and now are hearing it with a Latin one. Either way, you and uncleJcav know at least two languages. That's something to be proud of.
Yeah, rural Mandarin is not taught in international Mandarin classrooms. Beijing-accented Mandarin is. Most speak their own dialect, so their Mandarin is quite accented. Dialects are as different from Mandarin as continental European languages from English. You're hearing dialect-accented Mandarin, which to the ear is like French-accented English, for instance. The same way people don't learn Southern American accented English (Georgia, Texas, etc.) either when they study English.
@@mypartyisprivate8693 I knew East to West would have different dialects but I forgot North to South do also. I visited in 2015 and we first went to Beijing where I purposely had our guide teach me sayings for street vendors - how much, no thanks, I said no, and even "I already told you no. I'm not interested. Goodbye." (Used that only once, got a ton of laughter but the guy understood and went his way.) Second we got down to Xi'an and then Guilin, my pathetic attempts at the local language went down the drain. Now I had to deal with my terrible accent mixed with cities that have their own accents. But hey. I survived. Charades always becomes the universal language I think, because it became super easy to communicate by pointing.
Guys I just want to say how much I love your videos. I feel like I learn so much each time and I just love how you mix your incredible shots with explanations and history as well as good chat! Always appreciate the hard work.
"If they say basic stuff like this in their propaganda, you know it's a big issue." It's like how institutions who put "united," "central," or "organization" in their names rarely are.
The stop sign thing is funny. Almost every place in the world uses the word "stop". Interestingly though, in Quebec, Canada they have similar tourist problems because they so badly want everyone to know they speak French that they use the French word "arrêt" on their signs, even though they use "stop" in...France.
One of your greatest strengths is the way you work together. Absolutely love how you work off each other, such a natural flow of conversation helps me absorb the information ❤️🏡🍀🌏🐸
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201 cool! Thanks for keeping an open mind. I didn’t know how people from China/Chinese people would react to these videos. Glad to hear you enjoy them
It's not just random stuff they talk about but it's also stupid when they try to analyze or give an explanation to Chinese behavior. Lol. They're practicing out of their scope of practice. Lmao!
@@systemicbreakdown7864 you do a lot of whining. Almost all your comments are super whiny. it's a tier system, the worse the US gets, every other country is between 3 to 10 steps worse. Africa: 10 steps worse. EU: 3-6 steps worse depending on the country. Scotland is a downright dump, and they're taking at 6. Australia: 3 steps worse. (And that number has climbed from 1 because of the losers in charge) Every country is getting worse because of the purple in charge. Since the US is about the same size and population as the EU, you need to consider reach state as a separate country for it to be a relevant comparison. States like California, NYC, DC, Vermont, are dumps. Free states are the last hope. For the US to succeed, the country needs to be split into an EU situation, where there are two separate territories. States with terrible politics, like California, and free states. You would be free to travel between the two, but they would have separate constitutions that would prevent left from infiltrating the free states. That's the only way. Or country to to divided to turn back. Half of the population fundamentally disagrees with the other half. The things they disagree on are the most basic things that form a civilization, and if you can't agree on those things, you can't be a cohesive nation. We must separate into two different territories.
@@systemicbreakdown7864 Perhaps it is in some areas, but other countries are even bigger S - holes. So I guess its only a matter where it's worse. And I promise you, people aren't trying to get into the USA any way they can because it's an S - hole. People usually run from a country like that, not to it. (Cough, Venezuela, cough.)
And to think... my American ass gets annoyed if I’m at a place where I can’t just pay for gas at the pump with my card and I have to go inside to the register for ten seconds 😝
You wouldn't walk through some neighborhoods in the states at night but you keep pretending you're free. You can walk anywhere in china and be safe. You're at least just as brainwashed as the Chinese
I’ve had the same (language) frustration when I was living in Korea. I am originally from Canada, but picked up Korean pretty quickly and spoke with a pretty clean (capital region) pronunciation. Still, I would get into a taxi, for example, tell the driver where I wanted to go, in Korean, and he’d say (in Korean), “I don’t speak English” or “I don’t understand.” Even though my Korean was spot on. Some Koreans (usually older) in smaller towns, get it in their heads that (foreigners) are always/automatically speaking English (or some other, non-Korean language). While this problem was minor and only occasional, it was still frustrating. I loved my 13 years in Korea, but things like that would get under my skin.
I appreciate the videos with commentary. It's interesting with all the odds and ends you guys point out from signs, or the whole tea kettle gas fiasco. Keep 'em coming!
28:24 unbelievable 😂😂😂😂 I have an Albanian friend in London, he says his dad sometimes starts crying, when they ask the reason he says he feels very bad when he remembers communist era in Eastern Europe before Soviet Union collapse and he becomes so sad how the corrupt communist system stole his life by making propaganda and stupid laws. I hope great people of China soon get rid of that sick system. Thanks guys for your amazing videos.
You notice the trend that no matter what government is in charge eastern Europe raimais a terrible place to live in? its chinas culture doing this not communsim, China is capitalistic now and still bad.
@@miguellopez3392 😜😜😜😜 MR IQ READ TO THE END How can you say that, Eastern Europe is a very good place , the only problem is it is still suffering from what brutal communism dictatorship did to them, nearly 50 years imprisonments. You can’t expect them to grow same as West so fast. I hope you are talking about Economic aspect of Eastern Europe (which is wrong also) otherwise you are not knowledgeable enough to reply to my comment . If you ask one by one of them about going back to communism era they smash your face. My uncle had gone to Bulgaria in 1985, level of poverty was so harsh that he was offered to sleep wives or daughters for less than $1. By the way: CORRUPTION IS NOT IN ANY SOCIETY’S CULTURE, EITHER CHINESE OR NON CHINESE , TAIWAN AND HONGKONG PROVED THAT HOW GREAT AND SMART ARE CHINESE PEOPLE UNDER A NON CORRUPT SYSTEM.
I absolutely love your content. I swear that there are more popup ads on your videos than anything else I watch. I hope you all keep doing these type of videos.
its true but we have health inspectors and such. idk how some people get away with it for so long in those shows. every other year they would stop by a bar i worked at. also the Chinese buffets in my area get popped all the time but the same family will buy the place from their bother or something and open up the same buffet with a different name. the Chinese restaurants are all great tho small family owned things with the kids doing homework or coloring or something while mom and dad work
what's the music before the nordvpn communication ? i tried to find it using the lyrics but heh . weird old wahtever class films musics are not recognized by shazam
Yes! I have said it for years about the language switch. I have been in Korean restaurants with Korean friends - I order in perfect Korean and the waiter does not understand. My friends say I’m saying it perfectly. It is not an accent issue. They are expecting English but their “Korean” switch is not on, so they don’t understand.
That switch thing is real. I was in London a few years ago when another tourist tried to ask me something in Dutch. I told him to repeat it several times saying I didn't understand him. Weird moment as I realized I didn't understand my native language spoken fluently.
One thing to point out tho is "一滴汗 一粒粮" actually tells people not to waste food that comes out of farmer's labour. Same in an ancient Chinese poem 悯农 if you guys want to check it out. Love to see nonsponsored youtubers on China topics.
39:58 @ ADVChina, you have a whole video about that phenomenon, but I can't find it. I live in Thailand and they sometimes do exactly that when they see a foreigner: they just say "no have" and "don't understand" rather than EVEN LISTEN to sounds that you produce.
I absolutely LOVED this video. So cool to see a different side of life in different countries. I would never think that life in China is like this. Super interesting. Thanks!
It occurred to me that by requiring you to show your passports at gas station, they put on id to every traffic cam they have of you. So it is not about money, it is making sure they can identify you from traffic cams.
When I came to the US 24 years ago, the news footage of the streets of China showed numerous bicycles with very few automobiles on the streets. Today even motorcycles are not allowed inside the cities!
Eh... I think the US version predates the social version and the work these people have done. The analog would be the US credit scoring ... umm industry? (do like 3 or 4 companies count as an industry?). Granted, it operates only on financial info, but it seems like a very clear lineage to me.
@@zvxcvxcz pretty much, chinese government has used their own local companies afaik, for the social credit infrastructure Tencent predates facebook and apple's usage of chinese factories
You think simply driving a motorcycle makes you rebellious? Are you a 13yo teenage girl? Anyways, they're riding motorcycles in China which has notoriously bad drivers. Plus they have video and voice recording gear on the helmets.
Laoshan, "known for having a very clean water table." Having learned, from you guys, you need to question things that are believed/known in China. So, just how clean is Laoshan's water in fact?
Not clean at all. Even the bottled water is notoriously dangerous to human health. Up to 20% of the bottled water in the country is actually illegally manufactured and they use fake labels. Theres a whole write up about it at chinawaterrisk DOT org EDIT: actually search "8 Things You Should Know About Bottled Water in China" for the exact article...
If somebody wanted to do something with gas they'd just fill up the tank and empty it into a container later and then do whatever they want... This is pointless.
Good job guys, I'm Chinese and lived in Qinhuangdao, Hebei Province. I love your video that I could know my country from other views who grow up in different cultures. Keep going on.
At least they use the octagon for the stop sign. In Japan they use the Yield sign in all read and write 止まれ on it, although in Tokyo some signs do say STOP as well.
Oh, this is going to be a nostalgia trip for me. I spent a year in Qingdao from summer 2003 to summer 2004. edit: Well, didn't see much of Qingdao here and nothing I recognized, except that tall university building, but it was still a interesting and informative video.
when you were talking about where the girl "didn't want to" understand your pronunciation of the number 5 has happened to me SOOOOOO many times, it's frustrating. You say a word, that sounds nothing like any other word, and they don't want to use their internal "pattern recognition software" to try and understand what you're saying. I've learned/studied both Chinese and Japanese, and this happens so much more in Chinese. Maybe because Japanese is more "context-dependant" than Chinese, but I've found that at least Japanese try to understand what you are saying even when I know what I'm saying is grammatically wrong like when confusing "ni" and "de" in Japanese, nobody will stop you and say they don't understand.. but in Chinese, people will just look and stare at you blankly.
Growing up In America I always heard "Land of the Free" and never could understand what that really meant... And then I started watching Chinese videos/vlogs... I now know lol
@@nmew6926 drugs/homeless/murder happens everywhere... We don't create a name for poor people/farm people and prevent them from moving up in the world because of where they were born... The world also knows china is hardcore in the "Big Brother" watching you and giving them a rating... Taking your rights away if you don't act like a cookie cutter of their idea of the perfect person
Hey guys, just a word on combustion engine fuels terminology, which may interest you (since you renovate cars) and other viewers, especially confused non-native English speakers. "Petrol" is the terminology used by many Commonweath countries (or ex-Commonweath countries) for 91-98 liquid octane fuels used in spark-plug fired reciprocating piston engines, while in the US and many other places the exact same liquid fuel is called gasoline or "gas". This transport terminology goes to the parts of cars as well. For example, the hinged metal cover or door of a car engine bay in the US is called a "hood" while in Commonwealth countries is called a "bonnet". Usually in the rear of a car, the luggage space is called a "boot" in Commonwealth countries, while in other places like the US this space is called a "trunk".
One year i had a roommate from china in college, obviously his parents money to send him abroad but i noticed he still stole toilet paper and paper towels from school bathrooms
This was eye opening, because I made that experience that people just refused to understand me when I tried learning a little Chinese/Mandarin. People would teach me how to pronounce something, I would, I think, pronounce it exactly as they taught me, but nobody understood what I was saying. It was so frustrating and I really started to doubt my own sanity. It was as if everybody was gas lighting me for no reason.
It's to do with tonal discrimination in your brain. Native English speakers in particular simply don't hang onto it from childhood. I experienced the exact same thing learning Mandarin, which made figuring it out that much harder.
Hey, the Chinese don't know their own language. In Chengdu I gave a shopkeeper 4 Yuan...he said no, he wanted 4...but that's four says i....no, four!!!! That's four, says i. He goes to till and takes out a ten. He pronounced his ten as a four.
Robert.... he wanted shi-. Not, si\. 四喝十sound close... I know, I speak English first and Mandarin second. Did he do the hand signal for ten? Maybe you needed more practice. Just saying.
@@robertreynolds580 s- and sh- can be quite indistinguishable depending on the accent. But four is always the forth tone and ten is always the second tone. Tone is how native speaker differentiate them. In some southern region of China and in Taiwan both 4 and 10 are in practice pronounced as si with different tone. It's their language their accent. They can say it however they want just like Northern Englishmen in the shires can pronounce English words in whatever way they want.
Been stuck here 'cause of wuflu; I have since refused to eat anywhere that isn't an actual chain restaurant (maccas, pizzahut, etc.) simply because the food hygiene is actually that bad. It has been incredibly bad for my health, but it beats liquid shits 4 times a day and food poisoning.
That road with the u-turn sign on is one of those where you have to use the right lane to turn left (and u-turn). Doesn’t make immediate sense, though, I agree, but I have seen that quite often in the north.
I had a company car in China. Somehoe registered to my driver. Drove myself on the weekend. At some point my driver asked me to take some speeding points, as he was close to losing his license
I saw once a real Mitsubishi Lancer EVO-10 in Wulumuqi (Urumqi) back in 2014. Maybe brought into China illegally ? Or a very expensive duty paid. I know it was absolutely real, I owned one at that same time in USA. I got to look at it close up, parked.
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16:00 you didnt stop at the crosswalk 😲😂
Are you guys riding your bikes while infront of the computers, or you guys doin some larping ;)
30:16 what's the story behind the names on the jacket?
Dudes stop clicking with this lame click bate titles with CHINA China China like f Trump. Write instead:our passports was taken for gass and so one. You welcome assholes. Send me new TH-cam button later for this
@@hoddtoward Those were the backers for the Kickstarter for Conquering Northern China.
I was in Qingdao in 2014, teaching English, first time in China, little to no language skills. I belonged to the idealist/culture-freak type but had a very quick and rough awakening when faced with the sheer dystopia, retarded rules, and quite simply, the ugliness of most of my surrounding even beneath a thin shiny veneer. This video brought back quaint memories bordering on the nightmarish. I agree, people can be nice when interacting casually (though not always), but that doesn't take away the awkwardness of it all. I remember that I had to buy a train ticket, but the counters at the station didn't want to deal with me so I had to use an agency. Only, the girl at the agency got the wrong ticket, for a different date and destination, and I only found out because I showed it to a friend one day before departure. I went back to have it changed, the girl said that I needed to buy a new one because that ticket could not be changed! I said, maybe YOU have to buy a new one, not me, since I asked for something else and you even got a commission for doing this service. At the end, after a bit of arguing, she changed my ticket but gave me a lecture on how selfish I was, a foreigner, forcing a Chinese to humiliate herself and correct her mistake instead of simply just buying a new ticket!
Needless to say, my China experience didn't last very long. I admire you guys for holding on to it for so many years, but my philosophy was, life's too short, sorry.
Yup, that's China... refuse to take responsibility for your mistakes.
@@robertreynolds580 No more like CHYNAS MISTAKES
Welcome to China lol
Thank you Merm
@@DB-vd3vy luckily, I just left the blasted country, and I wowed never to return again. It worked perfectly fine for me, thank you. P.s. I just said I had just arrived and had no language skills, go pandering your shilling somewhere else, thank you.
I've told you before, but I will keep telling you: these videos are fantastic. Those 50 minutes went by so quickly they felt like 20. Really happy with how much interesting and revealing stuff comes up when reviewing footage. And thank you for talking about the struggles of chinese people.
When I read your comment, I was thinking, "Wait, that was a 50min video?" I had to check the video timestamp... "Wow, yeah-- it was 50 mins long..." LOL
When I clicked I said “meh I’ll watch a few minutes of this.” Now I’m at the end of the video.
Yes!
This format works surprisingly well, nice work guys! 👍
Well they're kind of stuck with this style since they're out of china but still making video about china. Is there nothing interesting about where ever they're at now?
This is like going back to the good old days of riding and chatting, really miss all that and seeing interesting parts of China.
@Rodney 1984 if all the people who claimed to have subscribed from the beginning, were placed end to end, they'd reach from china to the moon...
I don't trust any restaurant that advertises "Fine Dining" on their signs. I'll be the judge of that.
That just means you occur penalties as you eat.
But you can always rely on truck stops with an "Eat & Get Gas" sign.
@@cryptotrading8330 Then it gets banned by a government that want's control over digital currencies like india.
One of your most interesting, informative videos ever. I learned A LOT. Talking about the switch being flipped when you're speaking Chinese to a local; I have the exact same experience with speaking French with my family. I was born and raised in an English province. When I first visit my family in a French province and speak French to them the first several times, they literally ask me to repeat. I speak near perfect French but it took them a bit to realise I was speaking THEIR language. After that it was fine. I think it's because they are trying to "listen in English", so when I speak French they don't understand. Great video. Glad you spoke about that.
These videos are great. It's like virtual travel for the viewers. Also love the personal experience/down to earth commentary. :)
They got a good point about the security cameras. Thieves and murders do not threat the existence of CCP, but people with a conscious mind do, and they are what the cameras are for.
Draconian passive security is a sign people way up at the top are afraid.
"Any man who must say 'I am the King' is no true king."
This was something that freaked me out. Two years in, input from the instructors, tutors, friends, etc. Absolutely zero difference in response between day 1 and day 700. With Russian, I was able to get functional within months. With Mandarin, I could be at a pool entrance, in flip flops, towel, and swim trunks, pronounce everything perfectly; literally no other way to interpret my intent... I'd still be met with confused looks. At that point it hit me: "This might be out of my control."
Just takes practice and getting the tones right. Obviously much harder since it's not like English
@@jeygee3736 Yeah, maybe if circumstances or something were different, then I might not have stopped. The social stuff was kinda what killed it for me.
How do I put it...? The 'wheels of social inclusion' seemed a lot more 'lubricated' with Russians than with Chinese.
Between the extreme difficulty, and the general lack of enthusiasm of people I tried to practice with, I kinda started seeing the language as an exercise in masochism.
I'm sure some people had glowing experiences with learning the language. I'm not one of them.
That was very enjoyable. Sticking to the topic can get dry, haphazardly explaining in more detail the smaller stuff around you is fun to watch.
Loving these videos guys! What I loved about
Your videos when I started watching them 3 years ago was getting to see some of the mundane yet interesting things on the Chinese streets! This kinda stuff is super interesting to me! Thanks!
TH-cam unsubscribed me from this channel, I'm glad to be back.
Glad to have you back!
White supremacist go home !
@@amadamad5684 Hahaha these are the tactics the wumao use. I won't stoop to your level. Unlike you I have dignity 😂 Have a lovely day.
Assuming you start from higher level is a joke heheh.
USA is cancer!!!
Pay for your crimes!!!
You call USA a "level lol.
40:24 I found this part interesting because I had read about such behavior in James Clavell's novels. Some Chinese characters in his books pretend to not understand the Chinese spoken by foreigners and then feel happy for taking the foreigners' "face" away by doing so. I'd assumed it's just fiction or perhaps 19th century psychology. Didn't expect to hear it happening even now. Do you think it could be a tactic to take "face" away to feel superior?
What do you mean face away. They are probably not expecting a foreigner to speak good Chinese.
Ah, no Jay Gee; he means what he said. They are trying to humiliate the "white devil" so that they can prove to themselves that their own Chinese culture is superior. I worked in businesses for 10 years that were frequented by Chinese and this is exactly what they do.
"Saving face" and "taking face" are fundamental to Chinese society. Sometimes I would have trouble understanding Chinese customers when they spoke to me in their poor English and they would often get very angry and start shouting at me in Chinese "You stupid foreigner; why do you make me lose face? You should speak to me in MY language, White Devil!" And this is in Sydney Australia, where the native language spoken is ENGLISH and these people had often lived here for 10 or 20 years but had just not bothered to learn to speak the local language of the country they had chosen to live in.
@@jeygee3736 In English we have these phrases "to lose face" and "to save face" right? This entered English from expats living in China long ago. In China, "face" is an important construct, 面子 or 臉. It's sort of like reputation, honour, or a feeling of self-worth. It makes it very difficult for Chinese people to, for example, accept that they did something wrong, or be persuaded that they made a mistake.
Imagine you get into a taxi and speak Chinese to the driver. He's not expecting it so his brain farts for a moment and he says "I'm sorry I don't understand your language". You then continue speaking Chinese to him, and he begins to understand. But it's now a "face" matter. He won't lose face. So he doubles down on "not understanding you". See, he *can't* be wrong, you *must* be speaking a different language, even if you're speaking with 95% fluency.
Equally though, if there is dislike for foreigners in the area, some people will pretend not to understand you specifically because they're trying to humiliate you; you lose face as you desperately try to communicate with someone who "can't understand".
Contrast with pretty much anywhere else, like Japan or the US or the Middle East. People's brains may fart for a moment making them struggle to understand, and they may say something like "I don't understand what you are saying", but if you continue speaking their language they'll internally accept that they simply misunderstood, and will (now bright red from embarrassment) begin communicating, because they don't have to worry about a sociological construct like Face.
You can't do much in China without understanding face. It affects pretty much everything.
You know how Westerners get tattoos with Chinese characters sometimes, and sometimes the characters don't mean what they think they mean? If you tell a Westerner that their tattoo says "curried rice" and not "eternal dragon", they might not believe you, but they probably will sheepishly go to check later and have it altered or removed, or they'll eventually accept "yeah I made a mistake. But whatever, it *looks* cool at least right?"
A similar thing happens in China with "English names". When dealing with foreigners (eg in education) they'll take on an "English name" to make it easier for the foreigner to remember them. Sometimes they pick wacky things, and other times they'll pick something that is so close to another word that it's obviously a mistake. As was covered on this channel, a girl took the English name "Rancy". Helpfully they tried to ask if she'd meant to choose "Nancy", but it had become a face matter. It wasn't a mistake, it was intentional.
People in China will often stick with a clear and obvious mistake for a very, very long time, because changing it would mean admitting they were wrong, and result in loss of face. So they just dig their heels in, double down on being wrong, until there is some external force that gives them an opportunity to escape it without losing face.
"You should thank the Soviets for having your language," after remarking on how Mao erased Chinese culture and even wanted to ban Chinese characters.
That whole process would kill the joy of going on a ride
I really enjoy hearing you guys speak Chinese. I can understand you guys so much better than the locals and it's helpful.
Idk y but it’s easier for me to understand Spanish from people who speak English as a first language better
@@Libra_Strings Because it isn't natural for the speaker, just like you. If we were to speak Spanish, I would be fine doing it but I'd be slow as I thought over my words. That would help you translate as I speak, as with natural speakers (unless the listener is fluent) the words are often said too fast.
Then there's accents. Obviously everyone has one, no matter where you live. But if I spoke Spanish it would be with an upstate NY accent, aka the bland newscaster accent. But a natural speaker would likely have a Latinx accent which can alter the words, especially if you learned something with an American accent, and now are hearing it with a Latin one.
Either way, you and uncleJcav know at least two languages. That's something to be proud of.
@@OfftheWallTales Yuck 'latinx'?
Yeah, rural Mandarin is not taught in international Mandarin classrooms. Beijing-accented Mandarin is. Most speak their own dialect, so their Mandarin is quite accented.
Dialects are as different from Mandarin as continental European languages from English. You're hearing dialect-accented Mandarin, which to the ear is like French-accented English, for instance.
The same way people don't learn Southern American accented English (Georgia, Texas, etc.) either when they study English.
@@mypartyisprivate8693 I knew East to West would have different dialects but I forgot North to South do also. I visited in 2015 and we first went to Beijing where I purposely had our guide teach me sayings for street vendors - how much, no thanks, I said no, and even "I already told you no. I'm not interested. Goodbye." (Used that only once, got a ton of laughter but the guy understood and went his way.)
Second we got down to Xi'an and then Guilin, my pathetic attempts at the local language went down the drain. Now I had to deal with my terrible accent mixed with cities that have their own accents.
But hey. I survived. Charades always becomes the universal language I think, because it became super easy to communicate by pointing.
These are fascinating, more please. I'm glad you guys were able to get out when you did, but sorry it was necessary.
Guys I just want to say how much I love your videos. I feel like I learn so much each time and I just love how you mix your incredible shots with explanations and history as well as good chat! Always appreciate the hard work.
Thanks, Grace!
"If they say basic stuff like this in their propaganda, you know it's a big issue."
It's like how institutions who put "united," "central," or "organization" in their names rarely are.
Truly Awesome! Very interesting and informative. Looking forward to seeing the next one. Thanks.
The stop sign thing is funny. Almost every place in the world uses the word "stop". Interestingly though, in Quebec, Canada they have similar tourist problems because they so badly want everyone to know they speak French that they use the French word "arrêt" on their signs, even though they use "stop" in...France.
Quebec still likes to pretend they're French.
I love these long videos idk why they’re just so binge worthy 😌
One of your greatest strengths is the way you work together. Absolutely love how you work off each other, such a natural flow of conversation helps me absorb the information ❤️🏡🍀🌏🐸
These travelogue episodes are great. Thanks for keeping it under an hour this week.
Thanks, but when was it over an hour?
@@laowhy86 Ooops....thought this was the podcast.
These guys just kick it talking about random stuff but damn it's addicting to watch
They have far more chemistry than Winston does with his wife.
You never see a single documentary on this, even Chinese from China enjoy watching them.
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201 cool! Thanks for keeping an open mind. I didn’t know how people from China/Chinese people would react to these videos. Glad to hear you enjoy them
@@numalesoybea1348 Are you jealous of them?
It's not just random stuff they talk about but it's also stupid when they try to analyze or give an explanation to Chinese behavior. Lol. They're practicing out of their scope of practice. Lmao!
If you give up freedom for safety you deserve neither freedom or safety. -ben franklin
That's why we Americans love our country America. That's why we love our guns. FREEDOM. USA USA USA USA USA
@@systemicbreakdown7864 blame stupid statists
Also by Ben Franklin- "I LIKE FUCKING MY SLAVES"
@@systemicbreakdown7864 you do a lot of whining. Almost all your comments are super whiny. it's a tier system, the worse the US gets, every other country is between 3 to 10 steps worse. Africa: 10 steps worse. EU: 3-6 steps worse depending on the country. Scotland is a downright dump, and they're taking at 6. Australia: 3 steps worse. (And that number has climbed from 1 because of the losers in charge) Every country is getting worse because of the purple in charge. Since the US is about the same size and population as the EU, you need to consider reach state as a separate country for it to be a relevant comparison. States like California, NYC, DC, Vermont, are dumps. Free states are the last hope. For the US to succeed, the country needs to be split into an EU situation, where there are two separate territories. States with terrible politics, like California, and free states. You would be free to travel between the two, but they would have separate constitutions that would prevent left from infiltrating the free states. That's the only way. Or country to to divided to turn back. Half of the population fundamentally disagrees with the other half. The things they disagree on are the most basic things that form a civilization, and if you can't agree on those things, you can't be a cohesive nation. We must separate into two different territories.
@@systemicbreakdown7864 Perhaps it is in some areas, but other countries are even bigger S - holes. So I guess its only a matter where it's worse. And I promise you, people aren't trying to get into the USA any way they can because it's an S - hole. People usually run from a country like that, not to it. (Cough, Venezuela, cough.)
I cant stop watching this incredibly depressing world of china
And to think... my American ass gets annoyed if I’m at a place where I can’t just pay for gas at the pump with my card and I have to go inside to the register for ten seconds 😝
Are you guys allowed to pump your own gas yet?
@@patg9754 yes, do people think Americans don't pump their own gas?
@@miguellopez3392 yes
@@Ghorda9 strange, never had my gas pumped before.
You wouldn't walk through some neighborhoods in the states at night but you keep pretending you're free. You can walk anywhere in china and be safe.
You're at least just as brainwashed as the Chinese
your experiences are fascinating
I’ve had the same (language) frustration when I was living in Korea. I am originally from Canada, but picked up Korean pretty quickly and spoke with a pretty clean (capital region) pronunciation. Still, I would get into a taxi, for example, tell the driver where I wanted to go, in Korean, and he’d say (in Korean), “I don’t speak English” or “I don’t understand.” Even though my Korean was spot on.
Some Koreans (usually older) in smaller towns, get it in their heads that (foreigners) are always/automatically speaking English (or some other, non-Korean language).
While this problem was minor and only occasional, it was still frustrating. I loved my 13 years in Korea, but things like that would get under my skin.
I appreciate the videos with commentary. It's interesting with all the odds and ends you guys point out from signs, or the whole tea kettle gas fiasco. Keep 'em coming!
28:24 unbelievable 😂😂😂😂
I have an Albanian friend in London, he says his dad sometimes starts crying, when they ask the reason he says he feels very bad when he remembers communist era in Eastern Europe before Soviet Union collapse and he becomes so sad how the corrupt communist system stole his life by making propaganda and stupid laws. I hope great people of China soon get rid of that sick system.
Thanks guys for your amazing videos.
You notice the trend that no matter what government is in charge eastern Europe raimais a terrible place to live in? its chinas culture doing this not communsim, China is capitalistic now and still bad.
We need more of these Eastern Europeans, educating us about that kind of government control.
@@miguellopez3392 😜😜😜😜
MR IQ READ TO THE END
How can you say that, Eastern Europe is a very good place , the only problem is it is still suffering from what brutal communism dictatorship did to them, nearly 50 years imprisonments. You can’t expect them to grow same as West so fast. I hope you are talking about Economic aspect of Eastern Europe (which is wrong also) otherwise you are not knowledgeable enough to reply to my comment . If you ask one by one of them about going back to communism era they smash your face. My uncle had gone to Bulgaria in 1985, level of poverty was so harsh that he was offered to sleep wives or daughters for less than $1.
By the way:
CORRUPTION IS NOT IN ANY SOCIETY’S CULTURE, EITHER CHINESE OR NON CHINESE , TAIWAN AND HONGKONG PROVED THAT HOW GREAT AND SMART ARE CHINESE PEOPLE UNDER A NON CORRUPT SYSTEM.
I absolutely love your content. I swear that there are more popup ads on your videos than anything else I watch. I hope you all keep doing these type of videos.
been really enjoying these videos where you speak over the background video that have been uploaded in the last month or so.
I hate useless layers of bureaucracy that take time of your day, I don't know if I would make it in china
"You dont see in america, 'lets not poison our customers,' common sense stuff"
Kitchen Nightmares: hold you tsingdao beer Winston!
its true but we have health inspectors and such. idk how some people get away with it for so long in those shows. every other year they would stop by a bar i worked at.
also the Chinese buffets in my area get popped all the time but the same family will buy the place from their bother or something and open up the same buffet with a different name. the Chinese restaurants are all great tho small family owned things with the kids doing homework or coloring or something while mom and dad work
what's the music before the nordvpn communication ? i tried to find it using the lyrics but heh . weird old wahtever class films musics are not recognized by shazam
Thank you for teaching us so much
Thanks! Love these videos and the longer, the better!
These videos are great. As I learned more Chinese and travelled more, all these things became more and more apparent while I was there too.
So, the gas station teapot deal is not a tempest in a teapot, but a teapot dome?
Yes! I have said it for years about the language switch. I have been in Korean restaurants with Korean friends - I order in perfect Korean and the waiter does not understand. My friends say I’m saying it perfectly. It is not an accent issue. They are expecting English but their “Korean” switch is not on, so they don’t understand.
Ask if they speak Korean first. Because they need to mentally adjust to that before coming at them cold.
That switch thing is real. I was in London a few years ago when another tourist tried to ask me something in Dutch. I told him to repeat it several times saying I didn't understand him. Weird moment as I realized I didn't understand my native language spoken fluently.
At least years ago in USA taxi drivers would give you a blank receipt so you could claim anything on a business trip expense report.
still happens here in the uk at least
One thing to point out tho is "一滴汗 一粒粮" actually tells people not to waste food that comes out of farmer's labour. Same in an ancient Chinese poem 悯农 if you guys want to check it out. Love to see nonsponsored youtubers on China topics.
The video of Chinese taking oil out of the sewer to cook with did it for me
39:58 @
ADVChina, you have a whole video about that phenomenon, but I can't find it.
I live in Thailand and they sometimes do exactly that when they see a foreigner: they just say "no have" and "don't understand" rather than EVEN LISTEN to sounds that you produce.
I absolutely LOVED this video. So cool to see a different side of life in different countries. I would never think that life in China is like this. Super interesting. Thanks!
They're grrrrrrrr8!
please do more city comparisons like Beijing vs Shanghai. You could do Chongqing vs Chengdu or Guangzhou vs Shenzhen for example...
I doubt their abilities on that
@@zhenliu2321 I doubt the legitimacy of your account
@@tylerchamberlain4552 bite me
Suprisingly don't think they ever went to Chongquing.
It occurred to me that by requiring you to show your passports at gas station, they put on id to every traffic cam they have of you. So it is not about money, it is making sure they can identify you from traffic cams.
That was extremely useful. And that T-Shirt had me in stitches!
When I came to the US 24 years ago, the news footage of the streets of China showed numerous bicycles with very few automobiles on the streets. Today even motorcycles are not allowed inside the cities!
I see motorbikes around Qingdao all the time as long as they have number plates.
You can thank Zuckerberg, Sundar Pichai and Tim Cook for developing the social scoring software and tracking for both China and the US.
Eh... I think the US version predates the social version and the work these people have done. The analog would be the US credit scoring ... umm industry? (do like 3 or 4 companies count as an industry?). Granted, it operates only on financial info, but it seems like a very clear lineage to me.
@@zvxcvxcz pretty much, chinese government has used their own local companies afaik, for the social credit infrastructure
Tencent predates facebook and apple's usage of chinese factories
Message me you have won $10
@@zvxcvxcz Incorrect. In the US we all have a consumer score, health score, transportation score AND financial score.
Lovely video and all, very interesting as usual. But oh my god i love your sponsored segments with the old timey media. Excellent job guys
Yes, they do an awesome job with those. I'm really curious as to where this one was from.
The guy with a safety helmet, he’s being rebellious 😂😂😂😂. I died
You think simply driving a motorcycle makes you rebellious? Are you a 13yo teenage girl? Anyways, they're riding motorcycles in China which has notoriously bad drivers. Plus they have video and voice recording gear on the helmets.
@@ShaferHart he was referring to the construction guy, they never have a helmet on
The construction guy you twerp, for goodness sake 👷🏻♂️
Rip
Very informative video. Thanks guys for all the commentary it really sheds light and how things are in China.
Another learning experience; thank you both.
Excellent video again guys. I really love these in depth road trip commentaries.
Laoshan, "known for having a very clean water table." Having learned, from you guys, you need to question things that are believed/known in China. So, just how clean is Laoshan's water in fact?
Not clean at all. Even the bottled water is notoriously dangerous to human health. Up to 20% of the bottled water in the country is actually illegally manufactured and they use fake labels. Theres a whole write up about it at chinawaterrisk DOT org EDIT: actually search "8 Things You Should Know About Bottled Water in China" for the exact article...
Only real way to know would be to water test yourself. Cant really believe anything unless you have tested for yourself
I live next to the bottling plant and drink the water all the time. There are springs around Qingdao with Laoshan being the most popular.
If somebody wanted to do something with gas they'd just fill up the tank and empty it into a container later and then do whatever they want... This is pointless.
Its to prevent gas spilling on hot exhaust / engine, close to the pump
i am truly desperate to know what is going on at 11:59.
like really, if anyone knows please help me, im rabbit-holing.
Good job guys, I'm Chinese and lived in Qinhuangdao, Hebei Province. I love your video that I could know my country from other views who grow up in different cultures. Keep going on.
Last time I came this early my wife left me.
@Sakul yup
Lolwut?
@@cryptotrading8330 go away, shill. Fake money is fake
Another famous Chinese bureaucratic saying: "If you control the red stamp, you control everything" or something like that.
Notice how permanent that road construction sign is?
I did notice. Where all the money is, there too is all the construction. Sort of like America.
That’s a subway line too. Got my bike serviced at that shop. Bikes no problem in Qingdao but can’t buy petrol downtown.
That taxi anecdote made my day "I'm speaking chinese to you now"
license plate number is for if you ask for a receipt, if you dont ask for a receipt, you dont have to tell them your license plate.
I got a notification!!! Yes! Finally after being subbed for yeaaaars 🤔😂
IKR xD
At least they use the octagon for the stop sign. In Japan they use the Yield sign in all read and write 止まれ on it, although in Tokyo some signs do say STOP as well.
Oh, this is going to be a nostalgia trip for me. I spent a year in Qingdao from summer 2003 to summer 2004.
edit: Well, didn't see much of Qingdao here and nothing I recognized, except that tall university building, but it was still a interesting and informative video.
when you were talking about where the girl "didn't want to" understand your pronunciation of the number 5 has happened to me SOOOOOO many times, it's frustrating.
You say a word, that sounds nothing like any other word, and they don't want to use their internal "pattern recognition software" to try and understand what you're saying.
I've learned/studied both Chinese and Japanese, and this happens so much more in Chinese.
Maybe because Japanese is more "context-dependant" than Chinese, but I've found that at least Japanese try to understand what you are saying even when I know what I'm saying is grammatically wrong like when confusing "ni" and "de" in Japanese, nobody will stop you and say they don't understand.. but in Chinese, people will just look and stare at you blankly.
Growing up In America I always heard "Land of the Free" and never could understand what that really meant... And then I started watching Chinese videos/vlogs... I now know lol
What? In your area there is no mass shooting, drugs, homeless. Seems you never left your village since your birth
Yeah, but we like all those things. We all have guns and shooting. And many homeless people like camping outside, like cowboys. They're pretty tough.
@@nmew6926 drugs/homeless/murder happens everywhere... We don't create a name for poor people/farm people and prevent them from moving up in the world because of where they were born... The world also knows china is hardcore in the "Big Brother" watching you and giving them a rating... Taking your rights away if you don't act like a cookie cutter of their idea of the perfect person
Dude, travel. It bradens your horizons.
Lest you should end up on an assembly line or some mundane shit.
Hey guys, just a word on combustion engine fuels terminology, which may interest you (since you renovate cars) and other viewers, especially confused non-native English speakers. "Petrol" is the terminology used by many Commonweath countries (or ex-Commonweath countries) for 91-98 liquid octane fuels used in spark-plug fired reciprocating piston engines, while in the US and many other places the exact same liquid fuel is called gasoline or "gas". This transport terminology goes to the parts of cars as well. For example, the hinged metal cover or door of a car engine bay in the US is called a "hood" while in Commonwealth countries is called a "bonnet". Usually in the rear of a car, the luggage space is called a "boot" in Commonwealth countries, while in other places like the US this space is called a "trunk".
This is pure gold 🪙
These videos are always interesting and informative to watch, keep em' coming!
One year i had a roommate from china in college, obviously his parents money to send him abroad but i noticed he still stole toilet paper and paper towels from school bathrooms
You guys have more patience than me. After less than 2 years I ready to flip out at the bureaucracy I faced all the time. It is so much worse now.
Just so you know, I'm not getting notifications for your videos anymore despite subscribing and clicking the bell.
Really enjoying these.
I got that instant notification! You guys are the best!
I hope you guys have lots of footage....loving these videos.
This was eye opening, because I made that experience that people just refused to understand me when I tried learning a little Chinese/Mandarin.
People would teach me how to pronounce something, I would, I think, pronounce it exactly as they taught me, but nobody understood what I was saying.
It was so frustrating and I really started to doubt my own sanity. It was as if everybody was gas lighting me for no reason.
It's to do with tonal discrimination in your brain. Native English speakers in particular simply don't hang onto it from childhood. I experienced the exact same thing learning Mandarin, which made figuring it out that much harder.
Hey, the Chinese don't know their own language. In Chengdu I gave a shopkeeper 4 Yuan...he said no, he wanted 4...but that's four says i....no, four!!!! That's four, says i. He goes to till and takes out a ten. He pronounced his ten as a four.
Robert.... he wanted shi-. Not, si\. 四喝十sound close... I know, I speak English first and Mandarin second. Did he do the hand signal for ten? Maybe you needed more practice. Just saying.
@@DB-vd3vy I am aware of the sounds...he was wrong
@@robertreynolds580 s- and sh- can be quite indistinguishable depending on the accent. But four is always the forth tone and ten is always the second tone. Tone is how native speaker differentiate them. In some southern region of China and in Taiwan both 4 and 10 are in practice pronounced as si with different tone. It's their language their accent. They can say it however they want just like Northern Englishmen in the shires can pronounce English words in whatever way they want.
2 Gallons of Gas - triple check ID
USA National Election: Epson printer paper
It was very interesting to wach u guys travelling around the China,unfortunately not anymore...
Luckily they have enough footage and opinion that they can keep these documentaries coming
Im glad they are safely here
Been stuck here 'cause of wuflu; I have since refused to eat anywhere that isn't an actual chain restaurant (maccas, pizzahut, etc.) simply because the food hygiene is actually that bad. It has been incredibly bad for my health, but it beats liquid shits 4 times a day and food poisoning.
22:49 A grain of rice comes with 100 drops of sweat! The United States needs to learn from that!
That must be Chinese don't waste rice when eating
Thanks for the longer videos! Love it
3:12 Perhaps that's ancient name but 鲁 is a simplified character. Traditional - 魯
@DIORDOL VON GIOHEIM If you say "country" + "negative" or "group" + "negative", then they just delete your comment like the ®€t∆®d€d |_€fti£ ©0✓|\✓|\1£$ they are.
That road with the u-turn sign on is one of those where you have to use the right lane to turn left (and u-turn). Doesn’t make immediate sense, though, I agree, but I have seen that quite often in the north.
It looks VERY clean there. I got tired for Winston's part. Just take the gloves off. LOL
I had a company car in China. Somehoe registered to my driver. Drove myself on the weekend. At some point my driver asked me to take some speeding points, as he was close to losing his license
Keep punching the 🤡! Not sure what that means but just keep doing it!
Chinese people just don't want to understand foreigners. Even if they're fluent 😂
I saw once a real Mitsubishi Lancer EVO-10 in Wulumuqi (Urumqi) back in 2014.
Maybe brought into China illegally ? Or a very expensive duty paid.
I know it was absolutely real, I owned one at that same time in USA. I got to look at it close up, parked.
Rare indeed.
What is the computer song at 12:00 i cant find it anywhere
This is something I really Did not know about
I love this format. This was super informative and insightful!
This is very nostalgic.