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Unboxing and reviewing an ORIGINAL German WW2 M42 Waffen SS Combat helmet! A VERY Lucky Gamble! :)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2023
- Hello my friends!
I was checking on a website, and saw this German helmet for sale.
Lots of times I'm just browsing on internet, looking at advertisements to kill some time, but instead of just looking, I ended up buying!
This German M42 helmet was for sale as a Single Decal Heer helmet.. and I immediately noticed that something wasn't right..
To me, this wasn't just a Single Decal Heer (Regular Army) helmet.. this had to be something way more rare and special..
I took a gamble, and bought the helmet for a good price.. now let's see if my gamble paid off!
Enjoy the video!! :)
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One time I bought a World War I canteen cover and found out it was named to a dude who served in World War II
Once bougth a Iron cross for 30 euro in very good condistion
@@ThatWw2historynerd That's amazing!
@@Brick_Builder_101 Lucky!!
I'd have to email photos to ya but I picked up an overpainted double decal SS M35 with a bullet hole through the shell and liner for less then a no decal this past summer
You know it’s a good day when history secrets post.
It always is!
I know right
So good to see these old helmets still in one piece
THE ONE PEICE IS REAL!
THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!
The moment you find a rare ventless m42 the one piece the one piece is real!!!!!!
An incredible piece of history, watching your collection tour videos, it really shows me how passionate you are with your hobby, keep up the great videos!
I love learning about the history of objects and this channel is the only one that reviews stuff one at a time, a real learning experience from Nick
Amazing, i love it when you unbox ww2 stuff😍
I'm happy to hear that!!
I respect you Nick. Let me say you something, with all my respect. hkp(as well as NS) newer did produce helmets for SS. In the catalog of helmet numbers(a ton of mistaces there by the way) you can barely find any hkp ss, and those that are present are very... Very questionable. How could it happen then you may ask? Maybe it was private purchase(they did sell decals to civilians) , maybe post war(original decal on original helmet but applied post war, by scammers) or it could have happen that some scammer was trying to make some money. The decal is gone so it is immposible to know the maker...But point is - there were no factory made SS hkp helmets.
P. S. Very nice helmet, a fine addition to your collection!
You can find original pocher decals on hkp and ns helmets
@@pp-qd3qg so what? I have written everything above about this …Those are nothing more but exceptions , there is no such thing as factory batch of Ns,hkp ss helmets .
Don't forget about the absolute champaign decal mess... I stand by this, original HKP helmets with reissued Pocher decals are very scarce. Most if not all HKPs encountered with an ss decal must be considered humped unless it is absolutly unquestionably proven that it is a Pocher decal. Just my opinion.
Thank you for your comment, I am aware that hkp never produced SS helmets, or let's say never applied decals on the factory. However, that doesn't mean that hkp helmets weren't used by them. Indeed, the Decal on the helmet has to be a Pocher Decal (field applied). The helmet clearly has reissue paint, which also makes sense in this case. I know it would be really rare, but I looked up the lot number in my official database research book, unfortunately this exact number is missing, together with others, but a lot number that was very close (also in the 5000 range) was also a hkp Single Decal SS Pocher, made during the same period (late war) These helmets are officially documented. Again, I know it's very unlikely and would be rare, but this is what I see. I can see nothing on this helmet was done recently, and I'm pretty sure nobody would ruin an original mint condition Pocher Decal like this by fading it out completely. Soldiers in the fields weren't looking at lot numbers, of someone needed a new helmet for some reason, they didn't care where it came from. It was probably reissued to the SS, and then repainted, and a Decal was applied. I've seen lots of weird things, especially late in the war.. SS soldiers with Heer decals, Luftwaffe decals etc etc.
Hey ! I love your collection!
This was a post talking about this helmet from one of my forums.
SE/HKP did NOT make XX helmets with a factory applied decal. Not to mention that huge lot number of 5799 being way outside the decal drop date.
That is a stunning helmet! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for watching!
Regardless a SS helmet or not, It's a awesome helmet with a lot of character
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but SE/HKP did not make SS helmets with factory applied decals. If anything, this would need to be a Pocher decal which would technically classify this as a reissue lid. The danger here is unapplied Pocher details still exist to this day and are used to dress up lids. But the decal is too far gone to make a determination if its a Pocher or not. Pair this with a lot number of 5799 being wayyy outside the acceptable decal range post decal drop date. With such a large viewer base, it's important to highlight these fine details of helmets so collectors know what to look for.
I am aware that hkp never produced SS helmets, or let's say never applied decals on the factory. However, that doesn't mean that hkp helmets weren't used by them. The Decal on the helmet has to be a Pocher Decal (field applied). The helmet clearly has reissue paint, which also makes sense in this case. Also, I looked up the lot number in my official research book, unfortunately this exact number is missing, together with others, but a lot number that was very close, was also a hkp Single Decal SS Pocher, made during the same period (late war) So I actually have prove that Pocher decals were still applied on hkp helmets with high lot numbers. I know these decals do still exist, but they are really expensive, and I'm pretty sure nobody would apply an original mint condition Pocher Decal, and then fade it out to make it almost unrecognizable.
@@History-Secrets I'm not here to pick a fight with you about this. But you've essentially repeated what I already outlined in my initial comment. And my initial point was that factory decals were never factory applied to this manufacturer's helmets, which I stated - NOT that you wouldn't ever find SS decals on helmets made by this manufacturer. Authentic, unapplied Pocher decals when they pop up I see routinely go from anywhere to $200-500, even though they don't come up for sale often. If you think someone wouldn't spend a few hundred dollars to dress up a lid that would inflate the value to several thousand, then boy do I know a few scammers who have a boat load of doctored lids they'd like to sell you and a lot of other people. Eric Dolin being one of those players who I'm sure you know was involved in the Champagne decal scam a few years ago, and still routinely sells doctored helmets to unsuspecting people. What's left of this decal in theory could also be a totally fake decal that's been destroyed and marketed as authentic - and I am in no way saying it is in this case, it's a general example for people to visualize. We see this all the time with helmets presented over at one of the groups I help admin on Facebook, Military Helmets - Collectors Corner, which is the largest helmet group on Facebook with over 18,000 members. And it's not just SS helmets - it's Heer, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, Feldherrnhalle, etc. Regarding the lot list you're using, there's no high visibility list that I'm aware of that's constantly updated to account for new findings. And it sounds like in this case it's a book anyway. One example is not statistically significant. The only reason I raised this concern is because taking a quick inventory of the comments, people are just taking the information they're presented at face value without realizing there are a lot of technical and finer points to making sure helmets are authentic/correct.
@@akriener If people disagree with me, I don't see that as a fight, it's simply just a discussion. I'm aware of all the fakes, and what people do to fake helmets, but this helmet was never sold to me as an SS helmet. Anyways, helmets are hard to judge unless you have them in your hand. Some things are highly unlikely, but not impossible.
Good luck with it things out of the norm weeeelll!
@@History-Secrets forum nerds always think they are the authority on any and all things. You seem to know your stuff so don't sweat some rando trying to claim you been had. Those forum types are all the same. I quit looking at guitar forums because of all the "experts". Interesting channel man. I don't collect but I love WW2 military stuff especially German uniforms. There has never been another military with better looking uniforms and I think the helmet design was ahead of its time. Anyway congrats on your new helmet man and hope for an update video about the jerks that ran over your mg42. Subbed to your channel now good stuff.
HS thank you I have been collecting almost all of my ww1 infantrymen uniform you inspired me yo get into the history and what it's like to wear the uniform I was truely inspired and all I have to say to you is thank you
It’s it’s super cool, that everything on the helmet is original but also scary that think about were that helmet could’ve been
Congratuations, Nick! What a lucky find! I'm very glad for you.
This is a really amazing helmet! one of my most recent lucky finds was a single decal m42 Luftwaffe helmet I was lucky enough to purchase it for 75 euros!
Congrats on the helmet man! Geef het een mooi plaatsje in je collectie want deze helm verdiend het echt 😉
There are no hkp helmets marked for the SS.
M42 hkp 3477 - 6005 factory no decal era (only double decal police helmets)
I told him that also and my comment was deleted 😂
I've also said that, glad I'm not the only one. I mean, there's no shame in making mistakes.
@@Wreckdiver59 I never deleted any comments.. I think something went wrong with posting the comment then, because I see no reason to delete comments of people stating their opinions.
I am aware that hkp never produced SS helmets, or let's say never applied decals on the factory. However, that doesn't mean that hkp helmets weren't used by them. The Decal on the helmet has to be a Pocher Decal (field applied). The helmet clearly has reissue paint, which also makes sense in this case. Also, I looked up the lot number in my official research book, unfortunately this exact number is missing, together with others, but a lot number that was very close, was also a hkp Single Decal SS Pocher, made during the same period (late war)
Could indeed be field applied / refurbed. The OP is worded incorrectly; should have said no _factory applied_ SS insignia. Unfortunately, there being so little of the decal left, its authenticity must be considered uncertain pending professional microscopic examination, and it could be a post-war embellishment.
I love it... were so similar...
Like a fat kid in a candy store at Christmas. Im. Just as tickled as you are. Nice find. Very nice
It's always amazing when he posts. I always expect the next one is going to be something like a trench video, but this is still good. Also, I think I'm speaking for all of your viewers... fan mail!!! (: PLEASE!
I was playing a ww2 virtual reality game and i was talking with one guy and i said "do you know the channel history secrets?" he said "ah yes! he is a amazing channel!" and we talked about your videos and the cool trench videos about an hour long ! :D
nick i just wanted to say I love your videos and I am happy that you have another great helmet in your collection
Nice video my friend!😄
You guys have gotten me so interested in the World War II history that I am going to work this summer to buy an M1 grand and then go on to collect World War II stuff like helmets and uniforms
Congratulations nice score!
I was lucky a couple of times, bought a helmet for 150 bucks, picture was very small, no one bid on it, thought it was a heer helmet, turned out to be a KM when I got it in my hands... only the liner leather was missing, helmet was found in the Netherlands by the previous owner.
With the second helmet the picture in de ad was again very small, so again no other bidders, could just make out a circle on the left side, so i took the gamble, 65 bucks and I had myself an m35 DD SS relic from the canals of Groningen.
This was many years ago, haven't seen a lot of good deals in recent years anymore, guess I wasn't paying enough attention lol.
You were the person who started my intrest in ww2 collecting. At the moment I am trying my best to get a m35 helmet. But no look can you suggest the best and the most trust worthy ways of getting helmets.
Hope you are doing well
wow your so lucky getting a ss helmet in such good condition for such a low price. Congrats at the purchase my friend. Im so glad that you got it in such an amazing condition. once in a blue moon you get blessed and that happened to you
Nice one. I was very lucky in 2012.
I won a Japanese sword in perfect condition on ebay for 89 usd. Sold as a replica sword.
But…
It was made by a Mukansa(Highest rank) smith in 1981.
Funny thing too, I started my interest for Japanese swords in 1981.
i'm so happy that your still online and you making more video's then you make video like 2 Month's
Thank you! and salute
Omg thank you so much for posting this video and sharing this part of history I’m a big fan of your channel
Thank you for the nice comment!
HKP never made helmets for Waffen SS. Lot number 5799 its late 1944, ND helmets only on this year. The shell is also repainted with a different paint - no structure. Sorry to say.
I don't think the SS decal is period to the helmet, it was most likely done in the 70s or 80s and its been scrubbed off. Nick says it's most likely a pocher decal which were used on M42 helmets but the only pocher SS decals were used on medium duty Edelstahl helmets
Also over 95% of fake decals are applied on the wrong shell for the maker or applied on helmets that shouldn't have a decal
The NS and SE/HKP factories did not produce SS helmets , if you find one of these makers with an SS decal it should be the Pocher decal. But nevertheless be careful !
Hey Nick i love your videos and you got me into Metall deteckting i havent found alot of time to go after my newly found Hobby yet i do have a 1938 coin from germany in a good State and i would like to thank you for providing souch good content im 16 and still saving up for a pin Pointer to fully get into my new hobby , keep up the good work
That's so amazing to hear!! It can take a while sometimes before you find something, but don't give up!! Keep looking, and one day, you will be very lucky!!
Hi nick! Nice video and beautiful helmet! Greetings from romania.❤
That is a very good find!!!!!!
I feel like that if I see a relic helmet on Ebay and I pass it up, it turns out it was something very rare!
You have a very nice SS collection! Not a supporter at all, but as a fellow collector.
I own a SS marked Frostbite Cream tube, in very good condition and an original, never open!!!!! I paid $35 USD for it!!!!!!!
This video reminded me of my great grandpa who was from Czechoslovakia. And when the Germans annexed Czechoslovakia his family was captured by the SS, and he was eventually captured. He then later escaped one of the concentration camps (he was Jewish and a sergeant in the Czech army). After he escaped he was captured by the Red army and sent to Siberia, escaped and came to the USA.
Thank you man for sharing such great history.
Back in the 1960s, the local surplus store had a barrel full of those, in various stages of age & damage, for $10 each.
I started collecting as a kid in 1976 and really got into it when I was stationed in Germany between 1985-1989 and bought a majority of my stuff at the German flee markets. Back than fakes were already a big business and research was limited to a few books that would guide you to spot fakes. You should do a video talking about how to spot fakes and what you use for your research.
Since he thinks he has a SE/HKP factory SS helmet, he doesn't have the knowledge.
First off, the lot number 5799 is WAY past the point of the order for NO decals to be applied by factories that made helmets at that point Aug - Oct 1943.
Only Police lids received decals at that point, they were not mentioned in the order and continued to receive decals, one on each side.
Second, NS and SE/HKP factories did not produce SS helmets , if you find one of these makers with an SS decal it should be the Pocher decal.
Since you cannot confirm this, well... It most likely a police lid, because I can see where the paint on the other side of the helmet, has been rubbed down a bit.
Lot numbers are not specific serial numbers, they are a batch number and there could have been 300 helmets in that batch, dished out to Luft, Heer or Kriegs...
He absolutely cannot say for certain that it was an SS helmet.
Also... SE/HKP didn't produce all helmets in a purely linear Lot number progression, same with ET factory... So there can be decals on much higher lot numbered shells.
He got taken. 🤣
Very nice item . is it possible its a Norway reissue helmet ? might explain the gold flecks due to the size of the Norway decal ? could just have been applied over the scratched of SS runes , may also be post way liner stamp ? its got a story to tell. still very nice , i have a similar helmet .
The East Germans used WWII fire and police helmets, simply by painting over the decal only. My father picked one up at a rural German fire house after unification. A little nail polish remover did a great job removing the paint.
I love SS HELMETS THEY ARESOME COOL
Zag hem vorige week op Marktplaats en dacht bij mezelf die ziet er wel heel bekend uit, en jawel 😂
So nice ! I look at helmets daily 😊
Addictive isn't it? 😂
Oi, mate! This isn't luck; it's the Gods' reward to you for your interest, enthusiasm, and admiration. Deine Ehre heißt Treue!
Hey Nick I'm Keagen Dohn I live in he united states' I love your content and videos I have German dutch English and native in me my father's side the dominant side has German in me I am related to an ancient warrior clan from Germany I love your video and keep up the good work
You got yourself a good find yes the decal looks SS you can see white & black. peace brother
It's a beautiful helmet, Nick!❤️
I like that liner.
To top it off the helmet with no holes in it or anything
altijd leuk als mensen op marktplaats niet helemaal weten wat ze verkopen, goeie vondst!
at 1:45 i can clearly see the outline of the bottom part of the left S, what a find!
Wow that is an amazing helmet! Great luck you had! Nice
Sometimes you gamble and win the jackpot! You proved it. Sometimes you gamble and get the shaft. I've proved a few times over the years.
Wow that’s awesome! I’m a huge fan! Love watching ur vids! Can u do a tutorial for your ration making! Pls
Really enjoyed the video mate it was really interesting mate can't wait for the next video
Damm CARNT believe Ive been watching your content for 5 years damm
Great video, your so lucky to find a great helmet like that. congrats...
Nick thank you for responding and also I don't know how you found his story but if you could ever teach me the ways of I guess searching historical dog tags and learning who they were from I would be happy to learn how to
I cannot emphasize enough thank you so much for the longest time I didn't know anything about the man thanks to you now I know
I got a original German ww2 helmet fro my birthday and i thought it was a normal helmet but I could see and ss decal but on the opposite side of yours.
Nick I am so sorry missed this video as I am now looking at the video for the first time .
I do enjoy all your videos.
Nice Gamble!!!
Pretty sure I got my ww1 m1916 off the same guy, came packed with comics like that. Was in relic condition when I bought it (no holes, just very rusty and a crack in the rim), have since restored it
the fact that a german soldier probably used this is simply...
idk jaw dropping?
Hi History Secrets, I love your videos! I would absolutely love to get into collecting WW2 memorabilia but I don't know any good, reliable sites. I have been trying to learn from your videos and others over the past 6 months or so as I am TERRIFIED of buying fakes. Do you have any recommendations? I am a huge WW2 nut and really want to start collecting but again I am aware of fakes and am worried about the legitimacy of the items.
There's a bunch of FB groups which sell such items I even run a group on there but definitely gotta be careful as there are fakes out there always good to look up a item before you buy it! Been collecting for over 10 years now it's a addiction!
This chanel got me into collecting i don't have much but I love avery thing I have
Great lid well spotted 👏
It is SS...The yellow marks can be attributed to the decal itself,the silver background will turn a 'yellowish' color overtime...
Hello Nick thank you soo much for The comment you sent to me. Thank you Nick you are my faruite TH-camr ❤❤
Wow kamerad. Awesome stahlhelm mate
nick always uploads when im in chemistry class which makes the class more bearable!
I wonder what website you used to buy it, would love to know!
Just bought a helmet like this not to long ago, the guy mentioned how the chinstrap buckled was busted so he gave me a original replacement for free, I looked at the old one to see if I could somehow fix it and noticed two very faint ss symbols stamped into the leather. Any thoughts on these and what they could be?
Woah last night I had a dream about WW2, and when I woke up I said “History Secrets better upload today” and he did. Just luck or something else???
Anymore bunker/trench overnights with your friends planned in the future?
Fantastic find there, bro
Oh yea such a nice helmet
I Would love to see a video on all the guns in your collection
history secrets i think you would really like the show of shows
Excellent score and great condition!
I have 2 that I bought back in 1970.
Any tips of collecting/building a british impression of the british ww2
I wish helmets could talk
Great video Nick!!
Hello Nick! love your videos so much, i was just wondering where you get your original WWII weapons? I’ve been saving for one for ages so i’d love to finally get my hands on one.
Awesome find!
super cool man what a piece of history!!!
I too have been browsing on a website and I found a M35 with winter camo that had a bullet hole through the helmet, unfortunately it was 280usd and I don’t have that much
in fact you are the mrBeast of the militaria😉
Great video as Always
Hey Nick you should do more videos in your trench!!
That is awesome. That is amazing peice of history!
Hey nick. Geweldig aankoop!!! En lucky man! Wat heb je er voor betaald als ik vragen mag?
Hello I’m just wondering if anyone knows the value of a good condition m36 Bulgarian helmet because I recently bought one and it still has its original liner and chin strap. I bout it for about 80 aud so if anyone could say whether I got ripped off or not that would be great
Question: We’re they still applying SS decals on M42’s. Seems late. ?
Yes, until mid 1943 i think
Not on HKP made m42s like this one, unless it is a reissued ex heer m42 that was applied with a Pocher decal. By this stage of the war they stoped using decals, also, as mentionned, HKP never made single decals ss helmets in their factories.
We love you Nick!
I’m not sure if your going to see this nick but I change my username like every week lol if you remember me it’s me Christian in one of the livestreams I said that I was listening to one of your videos during my surgery that was me nick I think this will be my final profile name and pic.
If you read this I would love to have some pointers on collecting I want a uniform but I can not find an original in a kids size I’d you would help me that would be great
Wieder mal ein super Video über einen Deutschen Stahlhelm 👍
Was finden die alle nur an diesen hässlichen Schüsseln? 😶
Wie cool das heutige Equipment aussieht ... da könnte ich eine gewisse Begeisterung nachvollziehen.
i think you would really like the show of shows its like the biggest show in the usa
Such a cool video man your a lucky dude
Great find.
Nick (or anyone in the comments) i have a 59 liner but i don't have a shell for it, i think i need a 66 one, but i don't have any idea where i could get one (original or replica) for a good price and that ships it to Brazil (where i am from). Can anyone help me?